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wisconsin in the united in wisconsin in the united states for the republican national convention, which kicks off tonight as donald trump is set to formally announce his intention to run for president. let's show you live pictures from outside that convention hall in milwaukee . in wisconsin, hall in milwaukee. in wisconsin, where we've also seen hundreds of anti—trump demonstrators gathering despite their assassination attempts on donald trump at the weekend. he is due to reveal inside the building his vice presidential running mate. and on thursday, we know he'll make a keynote speech earlier on, his majesty the king sent well wishes to donald trump as well. buckingham palace not giving us the details of the exact nature of that correspondence, but it is understood to have condemned the violence and wished the former president a speedy recovery inside the republican national convention centre tonight , convention centre tonight, 50,000 people are expected to
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gather for the party, naming him as president on the presidential ticket and of course, the reveal, the big reveal of the vice presidential candidate for tonight . meanwhile, donald tonight. meanwhile, donald trump's classified documents case has been thrown out of court today. a florida judge made the decision after finding the prosecutor had unlawfully been appointed. donald trump says all other cases against him should now be quickly dismissed , should now be quickly dismissed, but the decision is likely to be appealed . news here in the uk appealed. news here in the uk and a man charged with murder after human remains were found in two suitcases on a bridge in bristol, has been remanded in custody. yostin andres mosquera is accused of killing 62 year old albert alfonso and 71 year old albert alfonso and 71 year old paul longworth. police say he'd stayed with them in their flat in london, where more remains were found. over a thousand migrants have crossed the english channel since labour came to power, gb news can
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reveal. the total number of migrants to make the journey in small boats, since the general election stands at 1128, it's understood to be a slight improvement in the weather conditions, which saw almost 250 arrivals over the previous four days. the arrivals take the number of migrants who've crossed the english channel to 14,702 so far this year, and one last story to update you on events in dublin. police have been clashing with anti—immigration protesters there. a number of people were arrested after police and fire service personnel came under attack at a site that's due to be developed to house asylum seekers, and makeshift protest camp had been set up several months ago to prevent workers from entering the area and starting that conversion. ireland's justice minister says she's appalled by the scenes . she's appalled by the scenes. that's the news at 7:00. i'm back at eight. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news
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direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . gbnews.com. forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, paulie. now good evening. i'm martin daubney and this is gbn tonight. now, before we get into today's big story, some important news that i expect. you've been waiting tentatively to hear for some weeks now. and it's this . some weeks now. and it's this. nigel farage is back. yes, tomorrow. the man whose seat i'm sitting in right now is returning to host his show. he'll be back live and exclusively on gb news from 7 pm. tomorrow. and here's what p.m. tomorrow. and here's what he had to say last week . he had to say last week. >> i am coming back to gb news and i'll be broadcasting on tuesdays, wednesdays and thursdays from 7 pm. to 8 pm. and it starts next tuesday and you know, i've been with gb news continuously for three years.
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i've said very publicly that it's the best job i've ever had. i've loved doing it, so i can't wait to get started again . wait to get started again. >> so brace yourselves for the return of the big man. until then, i'm afraid you've got me keeping the seat warm. i'm sure we're very excited to hear what nigel has to say now. he's an mp, eighth time. lucky the fox is in the hen house. he said, well, tomorrow he'll be back on gb news. well, it was a shocking moment which has sent reverberations across the entire world. former us president donald trump was shot through the ear in an attempted assassination that wasn't mercifully quite successful. the alleged shooter was 20 year old pennsylvania resident thomas matthew crooks. the motive is not yet known. he was shot dead by the secret service at the scene, and not so fortunate were the one person in the crowd who was killed and the two others who were wounded. now, since the attack, the former us president has since said in an interview, i'm not supposed to be here. i'm
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supposed to be dead. let's take a look. take a look now at the incredible moment when donald trump literally dodged death. >> if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened. yes . yes. >> well, it's still surreal to believe that that donald trump came that close to death. and that image of him pumping his fist in the air and shouting, fight , fight, fight against the fight, fight, fight against the backdrop of that us flag will surely go down as one of the most historic images in political history. now, here's how president biden reacted . how president biden reacted. >> there is no place in america for this kind of violence or for any violence ever. period. no exceptions . we can't allow this exceptions. we can't allow this violence to be normalised . you
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violence to be normalised. you know, the political record in this country has gotten very heated. it's time to cool it down. disagreement is inevitable in america . democracy, it's part in america. democracy, it's part of human nature. but politics must never be a literal battlefield or, god forbid, a killing field . killing field. >> well, let's call for calm, said joe biden . well, last week said joe biden. well, last week he said, let's put a bull's eye on donald trump. well, that call for unity may well fall on deaf ears if these reactions from some on the left are anything to go by, don't miss those one shot at greatness to be mentioned in the history books, and you miss the history books, and you miss the shot. >> i haven't even had a second to process. you're telling me somebody finally had the balls to bring up you and he missed? >> we were a second away. we were a centimetre away from half of the problem being gone. and you missed.
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>> i'm not saying that i would ever try to assassinate a presidential candidate. all i'm saying is that if i went through all of that trouble, i wouldn't miss is an astonishing trump derangement syndrome doesn't even have a day off. >> on the day when they tried to kill donald trump . what's wrong kill donald trump. what's wrong with these people? some weird brain virus . they're the ones, brain virus. they're the ones, remember, who say that people on the political right are the problem. these are the be kind brigade. well, there's no kindness on offer anywhere in sight. and jack black, remember him ? yeah. the guy from school him? yeah. the guy from school of rock. well, he had this classy response to the news that a former president had nearly been shot dead and murdered in front of the entire world. how mid beds james heale and make a wish . wish. >> cancer . wish. >> cancer. don't miss trump next time .
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time. >> now, can you imagine if the roles were reversed? can you imagine if anybody from the political right was glorifying the fact that an attempted assassination on joe biden or anybody else from that political side of the spectrum went wrong? next time , make sure you get the next time, make sure you get the suv- next time, make sure you get the guy. it's an astonishing display of how hateful that side of the political spectrum has become. and just to mention that happening right now is the republican national convention in milwaukee, wisconsin, where donald trump is expected to make to announce his vice president choice in the coming days. and meanwhile, outside the convention is an anti—trump protest . the coalition to march protest. the coalition to march on the rnc . you can see that all on the rnc. you can see that all there on your screen in milwaukee. and there are, of course, palestine flags, the ubiquitous flag of the caring sharing brigade. seriously why don't these people have a day off? on saturday, donald trump was almost assassinated on live
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television in front of the world and they still think a good use of their time is to fly the palestine flag of peace. and call for trump to stand down. it's just astonishing how polarised politics has become in america. even this attempted assassination hasn't been a wake up call to these people. it's incredible. and joining me now to discuss this is the former trump campaign deputy chairman, rick gates. rick, welcome to the show. incredible scenes on our on our on our screens. there even after two days after the attempted assassination , they attempted assassination, they are still out there. they are still waving their flags. how on earth did america become so polarised because you thought that this attempted assassination might make them think, do you know what we should take a day off. that hasn't happened. >> it's great to be with you. this evening, and it truly is astonishing to see the polarisation in our country. our country is truly divided when it comes to political parties, and i don't think that you're going
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to see you know, any healing in that, as you demonstrated from some of the videos, these people are radical. they want to create violence, which there is just absolutely no place in politics for that . but hopefully these for that. but hopefully these protests that you see outside the republican convention, the democrats will have theirs in a couple of weeks, and you will have protests there. inevitably, hopefully, those will be peaceful protests. but at the end of the day, the two candidates, joe biden and donald trump, have an opportunity through all of these different events to potentially unite our country . country. >> and how do you think this will affect the electorate? i mean, we saw, for example, in 1981 with the attempted assassination of ronald reagan, ronald reagan saw an 8% boost in his polling. people don't like rightly so . they don't like rightly so. they don't like people being put in these sort of situations. and do you think actually the hateful words of the people we saw on our screens a moment ago, including jack black, the total lack of empathy or soul they have, will this
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further galvanised, do you think the moderate. certainly it will. the pro—trump maga hardcore voter. but the moderate people watching on there must be horrified by this. >> it'll do two things. it'll galvanise trump's base, and you will see a lot of people in the rural areas, other areas come out to vote in droves. and then the moderates and independents, i've always said, are the key to this race. i think they will be moved by this. the democrats have always said, hey, we're not the party of violence, but yet then you see this demonstration where they attempt to kill one of the presidential candidates on the right. so you're going to see the moderates and independents, i believe, sway toward donald trump in the end. >> and, rick, how phoney do you think it is when we see bill gates calling for calm, saying politics shouldn't be a killing field? the same joe biden who last week said, let's put a trump in a bullseye. >> yeah, actions speak louder than words. and until joe biden is getting a free pass on this because he's got his own issues with being kicked out of the presidency and his nomination, this is given the media
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something else to focus on. but at the end, you know, joe biden , at the end, you know, joe biden, other democrats, they've got to control the people in their party. they've got to be the ones to step up and say, enough is enough. we need to be united. we need to be calm. we can't have this type of action in our political system. there's no place for it. we shouldn't have tolerance for it. >> and rick, today we've we've heard from donald trump. he said he's going to tear his speech up.the he's going to tear his speech up. the speech that he got planned, he said it was a humdinger. no doubt it was going to be quite a combative speech towards joe biden. do you think that the near brush with death, he talks about how it's a miracle he's alive? i am supposed to be dead. the doctor at the hospital said he'd never seen anything like this. had i not turned my head in that moment, we would not be talking today, would we? do you think this near brush with death might make donald trump more contemplative? contemplative? might he soften his tone? or do you think he'll soon be back to business as usual? >> so i don't know if he'll soften the tone, but i think that he is certainly
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contemplative about what could have happened. and he has said, god alone saved me. and you see his type of action behaviour. it has to have an impact on him, any human, it would have an impact on. so i think that it will be reflected in his speech tonight. and he is absolutely happy that he is still alive. and to be able to give that speech tonight. and i think that will motivate him to be able to communicate to his people what they should need, what they should do, moving forward, what our country should do moving forward. i think you're going to see a different vision, slightly different vision from him tonight when he makes his speech. >> and rick, another astonishing development today, the trump classified documents case has been thrown out of court. and that surely will also boost donald trump's chances of re—election . re—election. >> yeah. of all the cases that he has been plagued with, this is by far the one that we always said had the most teeth. from a legal point of view, this is absolutely an astonishing development for him, a positive development for him, a positive development for him, a positive development for somebody to be
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under for, you know, major court cases, and now, in essence, two of them are gone. three of them are gone. this is a huge win for donald trump. a big slap to the special prosecutor in this case. and i think that you're going to see, a potential appeal . see, a potential appeal. absolutely. the prosecutors will appeal this because they want to try to take down donald trump in any way they can. and this one actually had some some teeth to it. and so now that it's gone, i think it'll be very, very good for donald trump as we move forward. it won't impact the election at all at this stage. >> and they haven't been able to stop donald trump via impeachment. they haven't been able to stop donald trump via the courts. they haven't even been able to stop donald trump, god willing, through an attempted assassination . rick attempted assassination. rick gates, do you think now there's a feeling that donald trump is almost a terminator, a superstar, somebody who cannot be stopped? >> look, i think a lot of people recognise that he has always been a symbol of strength and determination. and even democrats will say that. and just that, those iconic pictures
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that will be, historical in their place in the political world, the fist pump, you know, as soon as he's shot, when he gets up, all of those resonate with americans and you see what's going on on the world stage. i think that will absolutely have a positive impact again, on those key moderates and independents. they're going to be the ones that decide the next president in our country. i think they see the strength and determination of donald trump, and they like it . it. >> and rick gates, donald trump's team have already turned those images into campaign fundraising t—shirts and merchandise. i guess you'd expect no less. thank you so much for joining expect no less. thank you so much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. former trump campaign deputy chairman rick gates, thank you for your company. now coming up, i'll be talking to democratic strategist hank sheinkopf as president biden calls for unity. but will that fall on deaf ? is the us simply too divided
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welcome back to gbn. tonight, i'm martin daubney now. we're still talking about the shocking assassination attempt on former president donald trump and the democrats response. well, last night, president joe biden called for unity in an oval office address. but is it too little, too late? well, i'm now joined by democratic strategist hank sheinkopf, live from new york. hank, thank you for joining us on the show. so a call for unity from president joe biden saying we cannot allow this violence to be normalised . this violence to be normalised. politics must never be a literal battlefield. and yet, last week, hank, the same joe biden was saying it's time to put trump in a bull's eye. >> well, you know , look, >> well, you know, look, americans engage in crazy behaviour. if you look at the assassinations over the years or assassinations over the years or assassination attempts, there's always a call for people to calm down. and then you wait a few weeks and people go back to being americans, which they want to kind of politics here is kind of, a good way to say it. it's a
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slam. it's a slam in tennis every moment. and it doesn't change. >> but we've seen a variety of reactions from people on social media, from jack black, and it has to be said that there's very, very little sympathy or the milk of human kindness from the milk of human kindness from the democratic side of the political divide seems to have turned very sour. even, millimetres from death. they seem to be very, very little sympathy towards donald trump. how did american politics become so hatefully polarised ? so hatefully polarised? >> it became hatefully polarised because both parties have moved in kind of directions that weren't expected. they moved to the extremes, the democrats to the extremes, the democrats to the left, the republicans to the right with no centre. the death of civic culture. people don't talk to each other anymore in settings that aren't political. the end result is a divided america with no way back. >> well, we hope there is a way back. do you think that there is no way back? that's a strong thing to say. >> i think it's going to be very difficult, very, very difficult to have unity. if you look at
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previous assassination attempts, when gerald ford was the president, there were three attempts to kill him, people made jokes about him on television. ronald reagan, people were calm for a little bit. the kennedy's people were stunned, but we've gone past that now. we're somehow in a land where human pain is less important than winning elections with a permanent political government, or what i call the political industrial complex, dominates our discussions. rather than any sense of what we need to do as a people do you think there's more to it than that, though? >> do you think there's something, more sinister about the fact that particularly there's a feeling that donald trump almost deserves this? he's been so othered. he's been compared to adolf hitler. he's been called a nazi, a white supremacist, a kkk sympathiser. this has gone on for so long and with such a depth now to it that he's almost become completely dehumanised by those on the liberal left in america. >> they've done it to joe biden too , since his since his gaffes too, since his since his gaffes at the debate . at the debate. >> it's almost like assassinate
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joe biden . joe biden. >> we don't know the number of assassination threats that the secret services had to had to vet or go through this attempt to kill donald trump has real ramifications for the political system. the people that he represents are those who believe they've been left out of the american dream, that they're not going to be part of it. again, they look and they see america. thatis they look and they see america. that is changing rapidly with the where very few, less than 50% can now trace their roots to europe, it's a very changed country. and people are feeling very threatened by it. >> and what do you think this means for the democratic party, for joe biden? just last week, the entire conversation was about we need to remove joe biden, his biggest supporters, donors withholding tens of millions of dollars. and now it seems that the democrats are stuck with joe biden after this event. surely there's no way they will attempt to replace him. >> there's no way they could replace him anyway. most states have already created their ballots, you know, there's something to be said, and i
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think in the uk, it's well understood that when you upset the way parties function, you tend to upset. upset how democracy functions and you don't take those risks. we've seen in europe, particularly what it means when you do that. and the last time you saw it in such a way as it occurred in germany, nearly 100 people, 100 million people were killed. you can't fool with democracy because when you do, you create a tremor that you cannot control . a tremor that you cannot control. >> but if democracy is an actor, it looks most likely now that donald trump is nailed on to be the next president of the united states of america, this latest assassination attempt will most likely bolster him in the polls. it did the same with ronald reagan. people don't like the fact that somebody seems they should be assassinated. if democracy is enacted , if donald democracy is enacted, if donald trump is voted in as the next president of the usa on november 5th, do you think that that will be accepted by the liberal left? >> it doesn't matter whether they accept it or not. the extraordinary thing about a constitutional system is they're going to have to tolerate it. and so will donald trump have to come to some kind of compromise?
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in. welcome back to gbn. tonight i'm martin daubney now. hope and glory dashed by a dominant spanish side . try as they might, spanish side. try as they might, england once again failed to do enough to lift a major trophy as they were defeated in the final of the 2024 european championship. now, as the hangovers start to ease slightly and the dust settles , questions and the dust settles, questions now, of course, turn to the future of england's team. and if gareth southgate is the right man to lead it well, our east midlands reporter will hollis joins me now from my home city of nottingham. will, what are the people in nottingham think? >> yes. well martin, an
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englishman, can pray for summer and he'll be given rain. an englishman can pray for a trophy and he'll come back empty handed . and he'll come back empty handed. there is nothing we can do about that. there is nothing we can do about that . and many people think that that. and many people think that that. and many people think that that problem rests solely at the door of the manager, gareth southgate. where in nottingham? a city famed for its football and its football managers. but i would say that it's pretty split. a lot of people really happy with the a lot of people really happy with how far gareth southgate has got in the england team since he took over in 2016. four major tournaments, two world cups with semi—finals and quarterfinals, two back to back european finals. quarterfinals, two back to back european finals . the euros has european finals. the euros has been watched by 23 million people. it's brought in £3 billion into the economy . but billion into the economy. but ultimately what happens here in britain cannot have any effect on the pitch. i've been asking
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people what do they think should happen now to gareth southgate at the end of this tournament ? at the end of this tournament? >> i think you should let him run. yeah, let him keep going. you know he's done nothing wrong and he's a good guy. >> he's kept everything the same for a long time and i think we needed a change to win something. >> i'm glad spain won. it was a better team. and england, you need to try harder , do some more need to try harder, do some more training sessions. >> i think he should stay. yeah, it's. it did well, he got . he it's. it did well, he got. he got him to where they were. he did brilliant. >> i'm proud of southgate i think he's a he's a great man. he's he a great manager. i'm not sure he is. we all wanted him to do well because i like him. but nice guys don't always win . nice guys don't always win. >> martin. just over my shoulder is a statue dedicated to brian clough. the famous forest manager. england managerial presence eluded that particular manager, but we know that it's
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described as the impossible job because of the difficulty 60 million people back here in britain criticising that particular job britain criticising that particularjob and the role that particular job and the role that the manager plays on foreign soils. but we know that gareth southgate's contract ends at the end of this year. but the fa, although they haven't said it publicly, are quite keen for him to stay on well. >> will hollis, i know that market square like the back of my hand. it's great to see you. the biggest saint george's flag in all of britain still flying there outside the council house. and that statue of cloughie may have kissed it many times before the greatest england manager that the team never had, will hollis, thanks for joining us live from nottingham. and we're joined now by danny mills who who's of course a former england international. danny, welcome to the show. so it's the morning after the night before the dust is settling. the post—mortem begins a lot of criticism about gareth southgate during the tournament, especially early on. some of the football was absolutely torturous and yet we got to the final two times
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unlucky. the big question now is should he stay or should he go ? should he stay or should he go? what's your take? >> i think he has the right to stay on, if he chooses to, that may not be popular, but you have to look around. and who's going to look around. and who's going to replace him, you know, gareth is the most successful manager by some time, i was maybe part of the golden generation or the golden plated generation, because we never won anything, you know, sven—goran eriksson was too quiet. played for 42, fabio capello banned ketchup. you know, steve mcclaren was the wally with the brolly. all these things, all these managers haven't succeeded. kevin keegan before that, you know, great people , great club managers in people, great club managers in their own right. never quite did it for england. i keep hearing all this about oh you know gareth lost two finals in a row . gareth lost two finals in a row. he's also got to two european finals in a row. you know that's some achievement. we have no
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divine right to go and win tournaments . yes, we've got tournaments. yes, we've got a good squad but so have spain . good squad but so have spain. france had a good squad. germany had a good squad. they'll all be very, very disappointed that they haven't won it . i very, very disappointed that they haven't won it. i think didier deschamps will stay on as french manager. i think it looks like nagelsmann will stay on as german manager. we are desperate to get rid of our manager who's just got us to a final and i just got us to a final and i just don't get it because who's going to come in to replace him. >> a lot of people, though, would say, danny, that we had the players and perhaps they'd have got to this final irrespective of if gareth southgate had been the manager or not. they've got the talent, they've got the ability. they proved that. >> so why didn't? so why didn't they perform then if they'd have got there, irrespective of gareth, why didn't they perform better? did sven—goran eriksson make me a better player? no, he didn't. did he make rio ferdinand, sol campbell, ashley cole, did he make them? david beckham, paul scholes , better beckham, paul scholes, better players? no, not in the slightest . he players? no, not in the slightest. he managed the players? no, not in the slightest . he managed the people slightest. he managed the people and we went out there and we
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performed. i didn't perform any worse or any better because of sven—goran eriksson. i performed for myself and my team—mates. i took the responsibility by myself to go out and perform to many of our players. did not perform on the biggest stage. harry kane wasn't at his best. for whatever reason. jude bellingham wasn't his best, phil foden wasn't at his best. declan rice was okay, but we've seen him play better. saka in spells was okay, so a lot of these players have been sensational this season and they showed it in the first half against the netherlands, so why didn't they go out and do that again given the ball away? that's to not do with the manager. that's to do with the manager. that's to do with their own choices and their own ability. you can't lay everything on gareth's doorstep. >> okay, well, let's just quickly cut now danny mills to some pictures we have on our screen because there's a victory parade in spain. this is the picture. oh, look at that. absolute scenes there in madrid. you cannot move thousands and thousands of people packed the
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central square of madrid. the spanish team doing a lap of honoun spanish team doing a lap of honour. those are the sort of scenes , danny mills, that bring scenes, danny mills, that bring a tear to the eye, because we should have been seeing those, perhaps at trafalgar square. but danny, you're very, very insistent here. don't blame the gaffer. blame the boys on the pitch . pitch. >> everybody's accountable for this, you know , gareth seems to this, you know, gareth seems to be carrying the can for all this, but realistically, can all those players come out and say they performed to the best of their ability? there are few in there. jordan pickford i thought had a decent tournament. john stones, mark gay i thought was very, very good. luke shaw did well when he came in, but a lot of those players did not perform to their maximum potential . and to their maximum potential. and that's not just on the manager. on the manager, players have to hold themselves accountable. they have to take some responsibility for that. i think we heard that from phil foden after three games of the tournament. gareth has asked him tournament. gareth has asked him to play maybe a slightly
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different way and they weren't able to fulfil that. so look , able to fulfil that. so look, whoever the next england manager, if he's going to be better than gareth, has to win the world cup if not, he's failed. simple as that. that's how everyone's looking at it at the moment because gareth failed getting to two finals. so unless we win the next world cup, the next manager will also fail. it's big, difficult shoes to fill it certainly is. >> and if we do win that world cup, it'll be 60 years without a trophy. that one we could put the sword through so who do you think might take over? i mean, ultimately, of course, danny mills, this may well be gareth southgate's decision himself. he probably might say, do you know what i'm going to bow out now. now is the time. now the bookies have got graham potter as the favourite. who you like to see as an ex—england gaffer. if it was down to you, dan, well i think gareth would have the right to walk away and i wouldn't blame him because i think even if we'd have won this tournament there'd have been criticism about how we won it and i think that's absolutely
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ridiculous. >> people are talking about graham potter did okay at brighton , went to a big club at brighton, went to a big club at chelsea, didn't perform for whatever reason, couldn't handle the personalities, couldn't handle the pressure. the media, whatever was poor. when he went to chelsea. eddie howe's been mentioned within that . okay. mentioned within that. okay. eddie's done great at bournemouth. coming through. had a first fantastic season at newcastle , but last season was newcastle, but last season was a huge drop off. lee kwasi, under 21 manager, has been mentioned again. it's a huge step up, you know, to make that leap. so i'm not sure. i don't think that there is no outstanding candidate. jurgen klopp, julian nagelsmann, pep guardiola are not going to take this job, carlo ancelotti is not going to take. they are not going to take the england job because they know the only way to be successful is to win the next world cup and with all the other teams obviously that come into it, not just in europe and the rest of the world, argentina, brazil and all the other
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nations. it's going to be very, very difficult to win that. so be careful what you wish for. everyone wants to get rid of gareth southgate, but i fear that if we do, i'm not sure we make a semi—final of the world cup. >> now, danny mills, final question. do you think that the england manager should be english? does that not matter? >> i preferably, yes, but i don't think it matters, hence, lee carsley is under 21 manager. i think he find his irish. and no one seems to have an issue with that, at the moment. so no, in an ideal world, yes, i think it does help. we've tried foreign managers. it has to be the best candidate for the job and the best person for the job, look at what the women have done. you know, they've got a foreign manager in and they the euro think it matters as long as it's the right person for the job. >> danny mills, thanks for joining us, giving us your expertise. and i got to say, you know, well done to spain. but it it does stick in my craw to see that victory parade there in
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madrid, knowing what might have been, we'll have to wait at least another two years for a sniff of glory. danny mills, former england international, thank you very much for joining us on the show . thank you very much for joining us on the show. now coming up as england and wales record the biggest annual population growth in 75 years, we'll speak to a demographer, paul about what that means
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welcome back to gbn. tonight i'm martin daubney. now. new figures suggest the population of england and wales saw the biggest annual increase in 75 years. thanks of course, to high immigration. according to the estimates from the office for national statistics, the population soared by almost 610,000 in the year to mid 2023. well, here to dig into all of this is the demographer paul mall and paul, welcome to the show. the figures are stark. a rise of 610,000. and the
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population, of course, is bolstered by immigration by 622,000 net. that, quite simply says the population is being dnven says the population is being driven solely by immigration. >> yeah, i think that really is the story. a 1% rise in the annual population of the country is not really a particularly big deal. is not really a particularly big deal . that's about the global deal. that's about the global average. where we are now. there have been countries where they've seen the population growth 3 or 4% in a year, countries with very high birth rates and falling infant mortality. so it's not the 1% that's striking . it's the fact that's striking. it's the fact that's striking. it's the fact that we now have the births and deaths in england and wales almost matching each other, which is probably the first time that this is happening in the but actually in the uk as a whole, because scotland has more deaths than births. but it may be the first time we're having almost more deaths than births since the black death. it's very
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unnatural, but now it's becoming very globally normal because in more and more countries people are having so few children and people, of course, living longer. and the net effect is we've got lots of elderly people and we have a reasonable number of deaths, even if they're living longer. death comes eventually, but the number of births is plummeting. and we're now where germany is china, russia, japan , big countries russia, japan, big countries which have every year more deaths than they have births. >> yeah. and i think paul morton, there are some figures out tomorrow which i'm going to cover on my show, which shows that this is a universal pattern across all of the european union member states. immigration. now the sole driver as well. of course, movement within the european union from countries that have less opportunity to those that have more. that's a double whammy . mercifully, we've double whammy. mercifully, we've been spared since brexit. but let's get back to the regional differences from within the united kingdom. there are some fascinating , discrepancies. fascinating, discrepancies. rural areas dying out at a much
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greater rate. the areas with the highest birth rates, major cities london, the west midlands and pall mall. and that carries with it a significant cultural change, doesn't it? >> well, of course , immigration, >> well, of course, immigration, which we haven't yet talked about , which which we haven't yet talked about, which is which we haven't yet talked about , which is actually the about, which is actually the factor that determines the growth . growth. >> now, if births roughly equal deaths, then it's all about migration and migration inevitably is overwhelmingly into the cities in britain. it always has been. there are exceptions . like in america, exceptions. like in america, norwegians went out to farm in the midwest. but essentially, immigration is an urban phenomenon. so if we are not growing our population as a whole in terms of births and deaths, but we are having growth in terms of immigration and that immigration is predominantly going to our cities . that means going to our cities. that means it's the cities which are relatively growing, and the countryside, which is relatively declining . and of course, declining. and of course, wherever that half a million 600 odd thousand immigrants go every
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year within the country, it means that the ethnic composition of the country is changing very rapidly. >> and it's true to say that immigrants of all colours throughout history have had more children. same when the irish went to new york, the germans and so on and so forth. but what we see then is an inexorable change of the landscape of how our towns and particularly our cities, look. but paul morland, if we're having so few children, how do we encourage people to have more kids? >> well, i just want to say a quick word, if i may, about immigrant birth rates. they tend to fall very rapidly. every evidence we have suggests that hindu and sikh birth rates are no higher than those of the, white british population. the afro—caribbean population has the was the only minority group that actually reduced in size at the last census, muslim birth rates are higher, but they tend to fall. in the us, we've seen latino birth rates plummet, which is why the overall so immigrant birth rates will fall towards the national average,
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what's really driving the ethnic change is not so much the differential birth rate as the sheer scale of immigration. now, what do we do about it? well, i wrote a book that came out last week called no one left why the world needs more children. it's a global problem. it has local , a global problem. it has local, differences. in britain, i think there are a whole range of things we could do. it's about the government. it's about the pubuc the government. it's about the public actually rising to the challenge , realising that if we challenge, realising that if we don't replace ourselves, our country will either be depopulated or populated by other people . and just a couple other people. and just a couple of very small suggestions we could teach our youngsters at school how quickly in your 30s fertility declines, your ability to have children, biological fertility decline that might mean that they modelled their lives somewhat differently. we could lift the cap on child benefit for two children. we could change the tax rates , could change the tax rates, meaning that people pay lower taxes if they have kids and if that has to be funded by people who don't have kids. having a
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higher tax rate, they will benefit from the workforce of the future when they're retired. but the key thing is there's a limit to what the what the government can do. it really is ultimately about people's priorities and choices . priorities and choices. >> paul millom, fascinating, sir. thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us here on the show. thank you very much. now, finally, the prime minister, keir starmer, is turning to artificial intelligence in a crackdown on children bunking off school, according to new reports, the king's speech will include plans for a truancy register which tracks absent pupils whereabouts using ai. is this a good idea? can it possibly work? well? joining me now to discuss just thatis joining me now to discuss just that is the head of digital learning at the university of surrey, doctor chris trace. what a name . doctor trace talking a name. doctor trace talking about tracing children, we know that kids have had record amounts of truancy since lockdowns. they got into bad habits, particularly the most disadvantaged who many of whom never went back. i think around about 100,000. doctor trace
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never made it back. is ai the answer? >> so thank you for having me, it certainly could be part of the answer. so the way that i think i may be used in this instance is not big brother. it's not chatgpt either. it's likely to be artificial intelligence in a form that we know as machine learning or deep learning . what? i've seen the learning. what? i've seen the proposals, it looks like there's a plan really to track this information and then use artificial intelligence to delve into that really big data, to try to find the patterns and the inconsistencies . inconsistencies. >> but isn't this down to the fact that lockdowns set bad templates the government owned that the labour party wanted soonen that the labour party wanted sooner, harder, longer lockdowns? this kind of happened at their own hand, and now technology is expected to pick up the mess and call me a cynic, doctor trace. but isn't this precisely what tony blair would like? he'd love to be in charge
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of an ai system that tracked and traced every child in britain. >> you. i can call you cynic if you like it could well be. so, you like it could well be. so, you know, i think ai is not the answer to everything. it's it's very easy to try to imagine it as a silver bullet that will just fix any problem. as with any large scale it project, which is essentially what this sounds like, there's going to need people factors. we're going to have to change the practices. and there's also real concerns around the use of data and pooung around the use of data and pooling of data in this way. so there will be some fundamental aspects that need addressing. i guess as a scientist by training, i'm sceptically optimistic that it should be possible, but just because we can doesn't mean we should . can doesn't mean we should. >> okay. superb. thanks for your expertise, doctor . chris tracy, expertise, doctor. chris tracy, thanks for sharing that with us. now, coming up next, of course, is state of the nation. and let's have a quick chat with the man in the helm, jacob rees—mogg. what's on your menu. >> well, we're going to be talking about donald trump. obviously it's such an important story but it's so important that
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he survived that. had donald trump been killed. i think the riots taking place in america now would be appalling, riots taking place in america now would be appalling , because now would be appalling, because all his supporters would have thought this was the culmination of the effort to stop trump. the suggestion that he was a threat to democracy and therefore it was legitimate to stop him . and was legitimate to stop him. and there's an historical context as well, because every time there is an assassination, the people who are behind it say, this is to save the republic, to save the nation. that would have been the nation. that would have been the argument behind the gunman's, actions. and thank heavens he didn't succeed. it's so important for global security for and american civil order. >> donald trump, astonishingly said, i'm supposed to be dead. the doctor of the hospital said he never saw anything like this. he called it a miracle. and then joe biden calling for calm . the joe biden calling for calm. the same joe biden, though, that last week was saying we need to put trump in a bull's eye. how much of that rhetoric over the
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years from politicians, from the media, from activists, from celebrities calling trump a nazi, a fascist, comparing him to hitler? how much is that responsible for this? this calcification of , an action that calcification of, an action that precipitates itself in an attempted assassination? >> i would divide it up. i think, saying we're going to put somebody in a bullseye. everyone knows that you're not actually calling for somebody to be put in a bull's eye. and politicians do use emotive language. i think the hitler comparison is always one people shouldn't make, because stopping hitler would have been a legitimate thing to do. it would have been a morally legitimate thing to do because of his evil . and it's not of his evil. and it's not a comparison that ever, to my mind, holds water in a democratic political context . democratic political context. david lammy called brexiteers as bad as nazis. he called you that, he then said when challenged that i was worse or the erg was worse. that sort of language is very dangerous, very
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silly language to use because as i say, excising hitler would have been legitimate. there is no democratic politician who is in that category . in that category. >> now we have a quick minute. you were in the studio there about how do we get people to have more children? how do we encourage a family basic policy to try and stop this rot of population decline? >> well, i've done my bit. i've got six children with my wife, helena, and i'm very lucky we are two. i think you do need to look at the way the tax and benefit system actually makes it very expensive to have children. you lose in the benefits and tax system if you have children, and i don't think that's sensible because then people won't. it's not that they need incentives, it's that people think, oh, i just can't afford to have another child and therefore they don't. do you think the labour party have got that kind of policy in them ? policy in them? >> they they seem to be quite happy with the idea of, you know, legions of single families, single parent families. >> i think you want to support the family at large, and that helps with truancy and all sorts
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of things. if children are being brought up in a family of two parents, jacob rees—mogg , parents, jacob rees—mogg, straight after this. >> now don't forget, of course, tomorrow at 7:00 he's back. the man himself, nigel farage, will be in this seat. you will not want to miss that. thanks for joining me. i'll be back tomorrow, 3 to 6 pm. on the martin daubney show. but first, here's your weather with annie shuttleworth . shuttleworth. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update brought to you from the met office. heavy rain will continue in central areas overnight with rain warnings in force, but for many of us it is going to be a mild night. we've got southwesterly winds as low pressure has been approaching from the southwest and band of rain is pivoting around this area of low pressure, bringing some very heavy rain to central areas of england, parts of wales as well, where there's a rain warning in force until the early hours of tuesday, we could see
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some localised flooding by tomorrow morning. further north it will remain largely dry overnight. there's quite a lot of cloud around though, so temperatures holding up into the mid teens for most of us. so a fairly mild start to the day on tuesday, but a pretty damp one for some of us, particularly where this heavy rain lingers where this heavy rain lingers where that warning is still in force. however, for western areas of scotland it will likely be a bright start to the day away from the far northern isles, where some showers will move in and across southwestern areas of scotland. again, some brightness dry for northern ireland, but this heavy rain will likely be affecting northern areas of england, north wales and potentially into the midlands and the south west as well. still quite a lot of cloud around across the southeast too. and that rain is going to continue to pivot around and slowly clear away to the north sea through tuesday morning. we're also going to see some heavy showers break out across central areas of scotland, northern england, to where there is a rain warning in force through much of tuesday. but from the west it will turn much dner from the west it will turn much drier and brighter as the day goes on. on tuesday. so some
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brightness coming through, not feeling too bad in the sunshine. temperatures in the high teens, low 20s at best. and as we head into wednesday, that's more settled. weather becomes more widespread . so wednesday is widespread. so wednesday is looking like a fine day for many of us. we could see the odd shower breaking out here and there, but for most of us it should be dry and bright and actually also feeling quite a bit warmer . actually also feeling quite a bit warmer. highs of around 25 degrees are expected on wednesday across the south, potentially up to 26 degrees on thursday. have a good evening. bye bye . bye bye. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on
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america should be counting its blessings. his survival has kept the united states from what could have been catastrophic civil disorder. and is it time to take a serious look at safety measures in place for political leaders following the shooting, mr trump said that god alone had saved him from death. those close to the former president also said that divine intervention had saved his life. the role of religion in political rhetoric is once again up for discussion , as is the up for discussion, as is the debate over god's immanence and transcendence . scottish transcendence. scottish nationalists have been celebrating england's defeat in the european championships today. however, given the snp has been reduced to a rump in westminster and has an uphill struggle to retain its grip on holyrood, we're asking the snp's former westminster leader ian blackford, if scottish nationalism is dying . civil nationalism is dying. civil servants continue to abandon their responsibilities of impartiality after an anonymous bureaucrat wrote a scathing piece on the conservatives in the telegraph. the disgruntled official presents a new era of warmth between the government and the civil service. surely
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this is hopelessly naive and today is saint swithin's day. aside from being a legendary predictor of the weather, what else does the day mark? state of the nation starts now . the nation starts now. and i'll be joined by a particularly forthright panel this evening, particularly forthright panel this evening , the author and this evening, the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner and the former conservative mp, sir philip davis. as ever, i want to know your views. mel margaret gb news. com but now it's your favourite part of the day. the news with polly middlehurst. >> jacob, thank you and good evening to you. well in the united states tonight, 50,000 trump supporters have watched the republican national convention kick off in wisconsin. that's ahead of former president donald trump addressing the crowds for the
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