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first truly >> what is the first truly islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon? and maybe it's actually the uk. since labour just took over. >> yeah. why does our greatest ally worry that labour will turn the uk into an islamist nation? also nobody but nobody should be making that journey across the channelin making that journey across the channel in this. making that journey across the channel in this . has starmer channel in this. has starmer left britain wide open. >> plus we can devolve things like skills, housing, planning and employment support. >> more devolution is there a risk that it could lead to more of this ? belem and more of of this? belem and more of this? >> a growing assertion that some kind of wrongdoing has taken place has been pernicious politically motivated and patently untrue .
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patently untrue. >> also coming up tonight. >> also coming up tonight. >> the greener we are, the more lives we'll save. a reduction in carbon emissions will improve health. so we've committed to reaching net zero by 2040. >> discover your gp is about to lecture you on climate change. why don't they just try and make us better? >> and if we start to say that you can self—identify as any sex you can self—identify as any sex you want, any gender you want, then we inherently have a problem and a conflict with women's rights. and that , well, women's rights. and that, well, ex—tory mp miriam cates will be live in the studio on everything from trans conversion therapy to the tory leadership race. >> and there are rumours that we're about to hear confirmation that maybe, just maybe, priti patel could be throwing her hat into the ring. but before all of that, my panel tonight, well, it's columnist and broadcaster esther krakue . i've got daily esther krakue. i've got daily express political correspondent christiane corgi and author aimee nicole turner, and i want you to tell me what's wrong with
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this . this. >> boris, for you . >> boris, for you. >> boris, for you. >> get ready. britain, here we go . go. has keir starmer just hung a has keir starmerjust hung a massive welcome sign on the white cliffs of dover . next? white cliffs of dover. next? >> at just after 9:00, the latest from the gb newsroom is that boris johnson, the former prime minister has met with the former president donald trump in the united states at the republican national convention in wisconsin following the assassination attempt on the former president just three days ago, boris johnson said they discussed ukraine and said he had no doubt that mr trump, who's now the official republican nominee for the presidency, would be strong and
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decisive in supporting that country. his comments came despite suggestions that a second trump administration could restrict military assistance to ukraine. mr trump has frequently criticised nato and has just chosen j.d. vance as his running mate, a politician who believes american dollars going to ukraine would be better spent on supporting american citizens instead. well, here, as you've been hearing, the deputy prime minister has hit back at j.d. vance's pointed joke that the uk, under labour, might be the first truly islamist country with nuclear weapons. mr vance had a dig at the uk in a speech last week in washington when he said he'd been discussing the matter with a friend, saying which will be the first truly islamist country to get a nuclear weapon, suggesting maybe iran, maybe pakistan, but then saying maybe actually it's the uk since labour took over. well, angela rayner went on record today saying mr vance had said quite a lot of fruity things in the
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past, but that she didn't recognise his characterisation of the uk but look forward to meeting him. if the trump vance ticket wins november's election . ticket wins november's election. news here in the uk and england defender harry maguire says his boss gareth southgate, produced memories that will last forever in his time as manager, southgate has resigned as england manager following the squad's defeat to spain in the euro 2024 final on sunday. goalkeeper jordan pickford euro 2024 final on sunday. goalkeeperjordan pickford has also been on social media today to thank his former boss for always believing in him . always believing in him. southgate's predecessor sam allardyce says he's done everything he could in the job except win a trophy. >> i'm not surprised. i think that, i think i've said before that, i think i've said before that eight years is a is a long, long time as a as an england manager. i think there's only sir alf ramsey and walter winterbottom served longer as england manager and gareth and he's left with an outstanding
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success record. i mean, nobody can argue with that apart from the fact that we didn't quite cunch the fact that we didn't quite clinch the ultimate final that we possibly could have done, particularly in the euros. but came very, very close twice. >> sam allardyce there. speaking to gb news earlier on in the day. now finally king charles and queen camilla have waved goodbye to crowds in guernsey on the second day of their trip to the channel islands. it's the second day of their trip to the channel islands . it's the first channel islands. it's the first visit by the king since he ascended to the throne. meanwhile, preparations are underway to give a very special royal title to an eight year old goat called tamzin . she's about goat called tamzin. she's about to be renamed the royal golden guernsey goat. tamzin will make history as the first livestock animal to receive such an honoun animal to receive such an honour, and we're not kidding. those were the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an houn middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code,
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or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> welcome along . keir starmer >> welcome along. keir starmer stands accused of leaving britain wide open. he scrapped our only deterrent . our only deterrent. >> look the rwanda scheme was dead and buried before it started. it's never been a deterrent. and i'm not prepared to continue with gimmicks that don't act as a deterrent. >> then he wanted this guy to take over his repackaged border security command. >> i will go with the oxford university dictionary definition of the word woke. i don't think that's the way it has been used or applied to me, but that definition is are you alert to issues of racial and social justice? yes, i am, and if that is the definition of woke, i'll wear it as a bumper sticker every day of the week. >> but that fell through so where do we stand? well, more than 1000 illegal immigrants have already crossed the channel
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since labour took office. starmer wants a closer relationship with the eu to sort this out. but now ursula von der lie—in has snubbed him. the eu leader has embarrassed starmer by refusing to attend his eu uk reset summit, which means it'll be trying to form a relationship with italy's giorgia meloni . with italy's giorgia meloni. essentially, keir starmer put all his eggs in the basket of closer ties with the eu, and the eu has told him to swivel. then we've got legal immigration. the latest figures show that england and wales recorded the highest population growth for 75 years. thatis population growth for 75 years. that is almost entirely down to mass immigration. previously, sir keir starmer has said this. >> the conservatives have let immigration get out of control. we've got record numbers of people coming to this country and they've now said they're going to have a visa cap. they've not said what the number is, so they've got a visa cap without a cap. we did have a visa cap before. rishi sunak are you to get rid of it, which they
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did in 2020, and now they're going back to it. but without a number it is utter chaos. >> all right, well, he's in charge now. and it's just emerged that the prime minister has shelved plans to reduce the number of foreign workers that will not be in tomorrow's king's speech as of right now, labour and the prime minister are keeping its people firmly in the dark when it comes to their plans to reduce both legal and illegal immigration. i think it's high time we got some answers. let's get the thoughts from our panel. tonight is columnist and broadcaster esther krakow. we've also got senior political correspondent at the daily express, kristian corgi, and we've got author and broadcaster aimee nicole turner. christina, i'll start with you just on the on the political front of this , really, i mean, front of this, really, i mean, keir starmer appears to have now been left wide open when it comes to both legal and illegal immigration. i mean, the eu have essentially just told him to swivel, haven't they? >> yes. and we essentially knew
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that they would write that actually , one of the things actually, one of the things rishi sunak was very proud of was having reset relations with the eu. and we saw that with the windsor framework, and we saw it to an extent with macron in france, we knew that in order to get any changes in europe, we would have to give something away. >> and the tories tried warning about this, that a similar migrant swap deal in other circumstances then require might require us to take many tens of thousands of migrants. and the problem i'm afraid, is that keir starmer has completely coasted on immigration throughout the election. labour has been totally complacent and not just kidded the electorate. so i don't necessarily think they have bought it, but they've kidded themselves into a situation where, oh, well, we can solve this by simply not being the tories and by being sensible and grown up and diligent on the issues, and that is not going to cut it. you're right. we've already got rid of rwanda. there's nothing yet in its place. yvette cooper's big idea is some command task force
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that, as far as i'm aware, already exists . absolutely, as already exists. absolutely, as labour intends in the home office, it hasn't quite worked. they wanted to give the top to job some guy who's already turned them down. because they're not going to fix the issue at the end of the day, here, what has happened is there's been a global and irreversible shift in illegal immigration, fuelled by record cheap flights and advertising on things like tiktok by people smugglers. you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. that's changed. and i think labour are living in some dream world where, being grown up politicians, they get back to the sort of 2000 level of immigration, well, this is it. >> and just sticking with the illegal side of it, esther, for now. so he obviously wanted ursula von der linde at this big eu, uk reset summit. she's now not going to be there. we've got her. yeah, we've got giorgia meloni who, as far as i can tell, stands for everything that keir starmer hates. so he could now be relying on giorgia
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meloni, saying, you know what, we're a big entry point into the eu and therefore into britain . eu and therefore into britain. we'll turn back the boats. we'll use something like a rwanda plan, we'll start deporting people and keir starmer will just say, great, thank you very much. at least i'm not the one doing it well. >> and it's interesting that he's choosing giorgia meloni. and the reason for that is because the italians are the most stable partner at the moment. i mean, in germany and france, which would be much more closer to his ideological allies, it's a bit chaotic . i allies, it's a bit chaotic. i mean, the french election has left the country basically in a state of limbo. and in germany, there's sort of frequent collisions means it's very difficult to get anything done. so the actual right wing person that he would personally, in terms of politics, loathe, he has no choice than to do a deal with. i still think that labour have not ruled out the option of sending migrants to a third country for processing. they just don't want to brand it as as rwanda, right? because in politics now, perception is reality. the danish made a very, is a public point of looking to rishi sunak's rwanda policy because they actually wanted to
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mimic it and so did the germans, and so did many other eastern european countries. so it wasn't, you know, this this kind of really public disgust that he had with the policy actually didn't match up with many of his european allies thought of it. and it's going to be a reality that's going to hit one thing he's going to do. i suspect, is going to try and bury the news. he's going to try and find a way to find a third country that most european countries agree with, that they can relatively send migrants to relatively cheaply and then find something to bury the news with. >> i mean, i reckon that actually one of these european countries will just use rwanda and they'll let us pay for it because we already have it might not be rwanda because the pr around rwanda is bad enough. >> possibly. >> possibly. >> but i mean, we've we've paid for it. we're not going to get the money back, which by the way, i think is fair enough. we've defrauded ourselves. i don't think the rwandans have got any obligation to give us a penny back at all. we've mugged ourselves off big time. and the infrastructure presumably. is there. what would stop another european country just using rwanda? i'd be amazed. >> i mean, they might use like an overseas territory of, i don't know, the french.
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>> i mean, well, we, we explored all the options. >> right? rwanda was the one we arrived at as the compromise that was the us cost effective and had better human rights records, but i think i think what's, what's what's relatively likely is, you know, you've got france, right, who take a much more sensible approach to international human rights treaties, which is they stay as members and they ignore all the rulings. yeah. and i think they'll, they'll someone like that will break first. they'll get migrants to rwanda and then keir starmer can say, okay, well , keir starmer can say, okay, well, if they're doing it, it softens the blow when we're doing it and we're not being controversial anymore. >> on the legal stuff as well, though, amy. i mean, this is another quite squiffy area. the king's speech tomorrow, as we understand it, everything, all the indications suggest there's going to be nothing on reducing the number of foreign workers in that at all. this is the kind of thing that keir starmer said he would be actually quite strong on getting net migration under control. they don't appear to be putting anything in that. they're kicking the can down the road there. i mean, that's not great, is it? it's a start. >> i think it's because at present, if they were to put that in the king's speech industries would literally collapse. >> the health care industry, for
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example, would be nothing. and we're not ready to reduce foreign labour. they have stuck with a commitment to this whole new skills plan . so maybe in a new skills plan. so maybe in a few years time we could look at reducing foreign labour. but one of the interesting things is that natural growth in the domestic population is the lowest for 46 years. so we've got a falling birth rate and ageing population. we really do need that foreign labour at the moment. and when you talk to people about the legal number, you say international students, well, they they earn the economy millions. so you don't really want to get rid of that. asylum seekers who are here from ukraine, hong kong, afghanistan, you don't want to get rid of that. and then the skilled labour shortages. i can't really see where we're going to be able to quickly make cuts on the number. >> i mean, the interesting thing about the interesting bit that's not being included in the king's speech tomorrow is the aspect of training. so actually forcing british companies to invest and train british workers before they can have the kind of the privilege of bringing in foreign laboun privilege of bringing in foreign labour, which is a point that actually you would think, and the left side of the political
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aisle would be, would be very popular because this is this is why businesses have been so keen on on importing cheap labour, because they don't have to invest in the british population, which is expensive. >> so a lot of the unions back brexit. >> i think they just can't legislate at the moment. >> i understand it on the point that the reason why he's not gone for it in this parliament is because there are questions about whether there's actually training courses available. so, for instance, if you put that sort of burden on businesses to say, okay, you can import foreign labour, but you have to train british businesses, are there courses to train them? i get that, but but they did. but that's not. >> but he didn't seem to have that same quibble when it came to releasing prisoners early. or get them out of prisons. that'll be fine. okay. well where are the where are the consequences down the road? yeah, we'll just keep that. where are the rehabilitation courses. where are the back to work courses? there. there wasn't the same urgency when it came to getting those set up, but i just think, christine, when it comes to both legal and illegal immigration and reducing both of those things as it currently stands, we do not still we don't know what labour's policies are. do we know? >> but we didn't know during the election either, did we really?
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now, what i'm astonished at, and i said it was complacent with the small boats. this is just as complacent. i'm really amazed, right, that i thought labour's immigration policy was essentially going to be, look, rishi sunak or not. actually, rishi, i'd say boris and liz truss messed up on immigration. the rate spiked . rishi and james the rate spiked. rishi and james cleverly and some of the other home secretaries we've had are set to bring immigration down. and when we get the figures later this year, they're going to be down by at least a third, if not approaching 50. and i thought labour's policy was going to be, well, we'll take credit for that and then we'll bank that and stay at that level throughout the parliament. so when it comes to the next election, even though we've not done anything, we can say immigration is falling. what i'm astonished at is they're now not even taking that. they're now actively delaying some of those major policy announcements by the tories that would have brought down immigration. and that's what the argument the economy can't cope. i'm sorry. we had a very good economy in 2015 when we had net immigration, 250,000 below 300. we didn't. and now i'm being told that these big businesses, these big businesses would collapse their health care went back down to that level. i'm
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sorry. they are addicted to cheap migrant labour. and the only way to do it is sobriety. they've got to come off it. >> i think that portraying the illegal immigration side as a massive crisis is slightly misleading. it makes up for 5% of the figure and we take 1% of the world's asylum seekers. it's i think it was 45,000 people last year in the form of our asylum system, which is broken . asylum system, which is broken. >> 90% of asylum seekers that are accepted into this country go to five major. only five major cities across the uk. the asylum system is broken. it's overburdened. we're bringing people over and offering them a substandard life. it's not just about cutting the numbers because we can't afford it. it's also because the people that are being invited into this country are getting a substandard level of, quality of life, and that's just not good enough. >> well, currently, they're not even being offered any quality of life because they're just stagnating whilst waiting to be processed. some of them are five star hotels. >> it's a pretty good, i think. >> it's a pretty good, i think. >> it's a pretty good, i think. >> i think three people to a room in a technically five star hotel is not a five star hotel. >> well, look, put it this way. the clock is ticking, right?
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ursula von der leyen is not going to meet keir starmer for this big uk eu reset. that's not happening. so we're gonna have to wait a bit longer for that. that has massive knock on consequences for how we're going to deal with illegal immigration and asylum seekers. when you look at the legal side of it, like we've just said, he's kicking the can down the road. it remains to be seen what happens, doesn't it? but, you know, he's going to have to give us some answers at some point soon. coming up after donald trump's vp pick said this , what trump's vp pick said this, what is the first truly islamist country that will get a nuclear w eapon? weapon? >> and maybe it's actually the uk since labour just took over , uk since labour just took over, will the special relationship only get worse under labour if trump wins in november? >> former tory mp miriam cates has her say on that shortly, and she will tell us who she thinks can save her party from oblivion. there are rumours that we are potentially moments away from priti patel throwing her hat in the ring to stand for the next tory leader, so we'll bring you up to date with that as we get it. but next, as health
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chiefs tell doctors to treat eco distress, should patients be lectured on climate change by their gp, or could this virtue signalling put patients at risk? founder of same day doctor doctor lawrence gerlis goes head to head with just stop oil spokesperson doctor khush naka and that is next. let's stay
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christys. tonight we're only on gb news now. coming up . will the gb news now. coming up. will the special relationship only get worse under a labour government? there's some insinuation that labour will turn us into an islamist country armed with nukes. what do you think about that? but first, should doctors be lecturing patients on climate change? it's time now for the head to head . yeah, i thought head to head. yeah, i thought this one might wind you up a little bit. so health leaders have instructed doctors to use their trusted status to lecture patients about the dangers of climate change. issuing new guidance. the royal college of physicians has told doctors to look out for people suffering so—called eco distress. the term used to describe anxiety and depression caused by climate change, and just bear with me, right, because medics have also been instructed to work from home as much as possible to reduce their own carbon footprint. so while we're on the topic of eco distress, has anybody actually considered the very real dangers of climate alarmism? so here's the co—founder of extinction
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rebellion, roger hallam, who had this cheery warning about the aftermath of a sustained climate change back in 2021. >> good thing about social collapse is the complete loss of material security or law and order, as you might say, a gang of young men come into your house, they take your girlfriend, they take your mother, they put her onto the table and they gang rape you, her in front of you . and then her in front of you. and then after that, they take a hot stick and a poke out your eyes, and they blind you . and they blind you. >> right. and look at the danger that those comments pose. so here's young just stop oil activist eddie whittingham speaking to me last year. >> i've decided that i won't be having children because i can't guarantee that there will be a habitable planet for them to grow up into. >> okay. is that a difficult decision for you? i mean, that's that's quite a bold decision to make, isn't it? well, i think
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it's the moral choice given the circumstances that we're facing . circumstances that we're facing. i mean, that looks a little bit like eco distress to me. so tonight i am asking, should doctors be lecturing patients on climate change? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay. tweet me @gbnews while you're there, go and vote in our poll. but going head to head on this the founder of same day doctor, doctor laurence gerlis and the doctor laurence gerlis and the doctor and just stop oil spokesperson, doctor kush naik. doctor kush, i will start with you on this. i mean, are you going to be lecturing patients on climate change then? >> well, look, this isn't about lecturing patients. it's about recognising that burning oil, coal and gas is going to make more extreme weather events. it's heating up the planet that we live on, and that has huge impacts on people's health. and so as a doctor, our responsibility is to talk to people about what poses a risk to their health so that they can be well informed about it. and
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appropriately act to either prevent that from happening or adapt to it. >> well, just to clarify, if i came in with an ear infection, are you going to start talking to me about climate change? >> well, the point of this is not that we need to bring it up at every single consultation. it does say to bring it up frequently and repeatedly, but where it's appropriate and relevant. and so the sorts of examples that it gives is that if you're treating a patient with asthma and they are taking an inhaler that releases lots of greenhouse gas emissions, then actually as part of that review of asthma, you can switch them to an inhaler that is much more environmentally friendly. >> right ? okay. doctor lawrence, >> right? okay. doctor lawrence, i would like your views on this when it comes to the kind of, eco distress or i wonder if quite a lot of that is actually caused by people in just stop oil . oil. >> well, if you look at the opening sentence of this toolkit and i resent the name toolkit, incidentally, by the way, the royal college of physicians, which i'm proud and honoured to be a member of, is for hospital
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specialists and consultants. it's actually not for gp's. so this is aimed at a very senior level. and the opening sentence says climate change is one of the biggest threats, the biggest threats to human health and is projected , projected to cause an projected, projected to cause an in excess of 250,000 deaths per year by 2050. now, if that's not alarmist, we've seen hyperbole dunng alarmist, we've seen hyperbole during the pandemic, and i don't need to be talked down to. i'm a professional man. i don't need to be treated as a 16 year old with this sort of document. i have enough to do with my patients of course, i'm not a climate denier, but i've got other things to worry about. like, can my patients get an appointment with the gp? can they get an appointment at the hospital? can they see a specialist ? and let me pick hospital? can they see a specialist? and let me pick up one thing where this advice is actually wrong and confusing. it's telling me to do more remote consultations now. i saw dunng remote consultations now. i saw during the pandemic the damage that remote consultations can do in missing serious cancers. also, my insurers, my indemnity
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insurers tell me not to do remote consultations because they're dangerous . so i'm they're dangerous. so i'm confused. i think this is a naive, simplistic, patronising document, and i'm disappointed that my royal college has had to tick the box to produce a document like this. i'm not denying any issues with climate. ihave denying any issues with climate. i have no strong views. i'm not political. >> all right, doctor kush . >> all right, doctor kush. >> all right, doctor kush. >> yeah, on that. because that's the other aspect of this, from what i understand, which is in order to reduce doctors carbon footprint themselves, they should do more remote appointments. and i just wonder, you know , yeah, the patients in you know, yeah, the patients in all of this two things. >> so one, that, projection that a quarter of a million people will die because of the effects of climate change. by the middle of climate change. by the middle of this century. so that's just about 25 years away. wasn't a number plucked out of the air by the royal college of physicians? that was actually uk's health security agency that have come up with that figure.
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>> it's a projection. it's a projection. and we've seen elsewhere this week what projected, you know, projected numbers then get taken as gospel and repeated. so i think it's look, if there's a real climate emergency, there's no need to open with a sentence like that. there's no need to for hyperbole. and as i say, we saw it during the pandemic. let me pick out another thing. but we do that with patient care. >> all of the time. we tell patients about the risks that are posed to them from all sorts of things. >> it tells me at the end how i'm supposed to talk to my patients . an example of what i'm patients. an example of what i'm supposed to say. i'm supposed to say to my patients when cars burn petrol , they emit toxic air burn petrol, they emit toxic air pollutants that can be bad for your health. well, i, you know , your health. well, i, you know, there's no way i'm going to say anything like that to my patients. i give advice, i treat everyone as an individual. this this is a aimed at 16 year old school leavers. this document , school leavers. this document, it's not something for senior. >> well i'll let i'll let doctor doctor kush come back to that
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then. >> so essentially this is quite patronising and ridiculous. >> to paraphrase, i think it would be a real shame to not give our patients the information that they need to actually act. i appreciate that that example is not going to be appropriate to every patient that you speak to, but it's not suggesting that you use that language with every patient that you speak to. it's simply saying that we need to discuss the effects of burning oil , gas and effects of burning oil, gas and coal that will that that will have with our patients, and so that they can make choices. and actually, the vast majority of the time it is the same choice that you need to make that is both environmentally friendly and good for your health. so if ihave and good for your health. so if i have patients that spend a lot of time driving five miles to and from work, actually encouraging them to walk or cycle is better for their health. but it's also better for the environment. >> i get that i do just i do just wonder, though, whether or not the nhs and some people who
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work in it might be better looking at their own performance as opposed to actually looking at the environment. right? so to take my example, very recently i've had two scans, both of which were lost numerous different cancelled appointments. then when i did get to an appointment, the person hadn't read my notes and they've read the wrong notes. i mean, this was going on for over a year and in the end i ended up going private and doctor kush, that's not the climate's fault, is it? that is bang average and substandard. gp's >> absolutely. and actually this same document talks about us needing to reduce unnecessary waste. and, and be told that i don't need to be told to reduce my prescribing. >> i do that anyway. i don't need to be told in this document for the for climate to reduce prescribing. that's that's treats me like a newly qualified doctor. this is aimed at hospital consultants . it's hospital consultants. it's really not necessary. and it actually i think it actually damages the cause by being so patronising. >> it still happens in hospital where people will end up having chest x rays done because it's not available on the computer system that we have got in our hospital, even though they've
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had a chest x ray done recently somewhere else. so patients do go through unnecessary extra tests. and this is talking about let's let's just be more rational and actually put the patient first, put their care first and at the same time help protect the environment . protect the environment. >> all right both of you. thank you very, very much. it was a good head to head that much appreciated. so we do have a right of reply here. i believe from professor ramesh arasaratnam who is the royal college of physicians spokesperson, said the need to act has never been more urgent and we hope that our green physician toolkit will support the physician community with small steps that can make a difference. it can, of course, be challenging to prioritise sustainability at a time when there is a very high demand for clinical care, but we have to keep in mind that reducing climate change and its health impacts is part of reduced pressure on the nhs in the long term, so look who do you agree with on that? should doctors be lecturing patients on climate change? maureen says they're doctors, not scientists. okay. the nhs backlog is already so bad. when will they get their priorities right ? cassandra says priorities right? cassandra says first, the nhs jumps on the transgender bandwagon and now
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they've got to save the planet. nonsense. how about doctors do the job that they are paid to do? julie says there's nothing wrong with doctors advising patients about how to keep themselves safe during a heat wave, or discussing issues that are causing depression . well, are causing depression. well, look, 2% of you apparently think that doctors should be talking to us about climate change. 98% of you said they should not. but coming up as the devolved welsh government is plunged into chaos by first minister vaughan gething resignation , a growing gething resignation, a growing assertion that some kind of wrongdoing has taken place has been pernicious, politically motivated and patently untrue . motivated and patently untrue. well, our angela rayner's plans for increased devolution a recipe for complete chaos . we recipe for complete chaos. we are joined by a conservative member of the senate and shadow health minister sam rowlands, plus spanish footballer rodri is in hot water after this . yes, in hot water after this. yes, i'll explain exactly why, but
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next, after donald trump's vp joked that britain will become an islamist country under starmer's government, what do we make of the special relationship going forward ? former tory mp going forward? former tory mp miriam cates gives her expert analysis . miriam cates gives her expert analysis. she's miriam cates gives her expert analysis . she's also miriam cates gives her expert analysis. she's also going to be talking about the big announcement from priti patel. yes, it looks like she's going to be running to be the
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up. is angela rayner wrong to say the country needs more devolution? there are a couple of absolute disastrous examples of it that are taking place right now. but first, former conservative mp miriam cates joins me live in the studio and straight to some breaking news. so dame priti patel will stand in the conservative leadership race after being urged to run by fellow mps . the telegraph is fellow mps. the telegraph is reporting that the former home secretary has decided that she will make an attempt to succeed rishi sunak and has already assembled a campaign team funded by high profile tory donors. earlier, it was reported that the shadow security minister, tom tugendhat, is also expected to throw his hat in the ring for the tory leadership within weeks. well, miriam, what do you think about priti patel? she got a chance. >> well, personally i like her very much and i'm in the odd position despite not being in parliament anymore, of actually knowing these people personally. the number of people who are going to put themselves forward for the for the leadership race and as i said, i like her very
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much. she's a fantastic person. she's got a huge amount of energy, but i am not going to nail my colours to the mast about who i'm going to support at this point, because, i mean, nobody apart from pretty is actually officially declared yet. there's probably a long time to go before the race is official, and certainly until someone's chosen, but i think what the challenge for the candidates is going to be is to lay out what their vision is, not only for the conservative party but also for the country. because if you look at the recent election, yes, it was devastating for the conservatives, but actually the for vote labour didn't go up. it's very clear that there is still a strong demand for a kind of centre right politics, a grounded kind of politics for ordinary people of britain. can any of the leadership candidates really articulate what went wrong ? but actually, what is for wrong? but actually, what is for the future beyond the kind of tired cliches that we've all heard enough of? yeah. >> i mean, what would be some of the things in priti patel's favour, do you think, when it comes to drumming up enough support to get on the final, the final ballot of the members, if it goes that way? >> well, she's straight talking. she's very energetic. she's got an amazing smile. she's got lots of friends in parliament, but as i said, i'm not i'm not going to
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come down in favour on any particular candidate. but i think you know, so far a lot of the discussion has been about you know, should they be more to the centre, more to the right , the centre, more to the right, high tax, low tax. but i don't think any of that really gets to the bottom of what the problems in this country are, how the conservative party sadly, has let people down, what we really need to do to fix some of the problems, beyond just saying we believe in what would be your ideal manifesto for someone coming in right now? >> then what is the kind of thing that could make you nail your colours to the mast? >> well, i think we need somebody who's a serious politician with a serious philosophy who seriously understands the problem that this country is facing, and a lot of the time, conservatives just trot out these ideas about we need to be a low tax economy. well, everybody wants low taxes . well, everybody wants low taxes. who wants to pay a lot of tax? nobody. but actually the reason we have such high taxes is because things like we have an ageing population, we have an enormous amount of debt. and just saying, i want low taxes is not going to fix anything. so i want somebody who can lay out an actual plan to get to that kind of conservative ideal. how are we going to deal with debt? the
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demographic challenge, all those kind of things and not just say the kind of things that the membership want to hear. >> it's suella to tarnished. do you think i don't know, i mean, i don't know if she's going to put her hat into the ring again. >> i know suella very well. i like her very much personally. but i think the problem with, politics as it is now and the 24 over seven media is that once you get a name for believing a certain type of things, it's quite difficult to throw that off. but we'll see. >> yeah. no. exactly. well, let's, let's whiz ourselves over stateside, actually, because donald trump's pick for vp is jd vance. now, he's caused a bit of a stir with this comment at the national conservatism conference in washington last week. >> what is the first truly islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon? and we were like, maybe it's iran. you know, maybe pakistan already kind of counts. and then we sort of finally decided maybe it's actually the uk since labour just took over. >> well, i mean, angela rayner did hit back this morning on that. >> well, i think he said quite a lot of fruity things in the past
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as well. i don't recognise that characterisation. i'm very proud of the election success that labour had recently. we won votes across all different communities, across the whole of the country and you know , we're the country and you know, we're interested in governing on behalf of britain and also working with our international allies. so a couple of aspects to that then. >> so firstly, do you think that the special relationship could take a bit of a kicking with the labour trump issue there? but but also, you know, do you think that's a genuine view that our american allies have, that labouris american allies have, that labour is a bit soft on islamism? >> well, if you watch the whole speech , which is actually a speech, which is actually a fantastic speech, i would highly recommend it. he was actually making a joke. now, your viewers might think it's not a very good taste joke, but if you watch the whole speech, he was just kind of having a little bit of a dig at the uk. and the natcon conference does like to make headlines. and actually the rest of the speech is about his vision for america and how they need to get back to making things in america. have an economy that puts the americans first. something that i think, british conservatism can can learn from. but in terms of the
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special relationship, i mean, of course it will be a challenge. donald trump, if he is elected, and keir starmer have very different politics. but i think, that special relationship has stood the test of time. we saw tony blair and george w bush having a very close relationship for good or ill. and i think at the international level, our politicians do understand that it's a lot more than about domestic politics. >> i mean, lammy would have to go there, wouldn't he? i mean, you can't seriously have a foreign secretary who is openly called the president of the united states, a kkk sympathising misogynist. i mean, it's all well and good saying, well, he might have changed his views over time. i well, he might have changed his views overtime. i don't well, he might have changed his views over time. i don't think you ever come back from that. >> no, it's clearly very offensive. but of course, all the diplomats on both sides of the diplomats on both sides of the atlantic will be doing their very best to cement that relationship. and we will see. but what's really interesting is that the uk is now an anomaly. we stand out from the rest of the western world. it's definitely moving to the right. it's definitely moving towards a kind of national politics that puts the nation first. and in electing a labour government or rather in not electing a conservative government. the uk is now, quite an outlier. so
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it'll be very interesting to see how keir starmer deals with the fact that he is now surrounded by western allies that have a very different. >> well, and also a lot of them might not view him as an ally. i mean, ursula von der leyen has snubbed him at the first opportunity. she got, which, considering how many eggs he's put in the pro—eu basket, is a massive, massive problem for him, especially when it comes to tackling things like illegal immigration as well. but i've just about got time for one more with you. i know this is a topic that you've spoken about at length before, so i'm keen to get your views because keir starmer apparently will ban conversion therapy under a new law in the king's speech. we're expecting this tomorrow. conversion therapy is the term used to describe attempts to change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity. but there are concerns that outlawing the practice could criminalise parents who try to help children, who think that they're trans. so what's your view on this, then? >> well, my concern is that it will have a severe impact on parents who are trying to protect their children from gender ideology. and we've sadly seen over the past ten, 15 years a huge rise in the number of children affected by this
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ideology, often through social media, sometimes even through schools, children thinking that for whatever reason, they've been born in the wrong body, that they're a girl, they're not actually a boy, etc. etc. and i think we've seen from the hilary cass review and other reports that actually this is hugely damaging for children. the vast majority of children will grow out of these feelings if they're guided and protected properly. and actually labour have already done some, some good things in this space. so wes streeting has said that he will keep the ban on puberty blockers. that's great. so how can at the same time, they say it should be illegal for parents to stop their child from changing genden their child from changing gender. that's completely incoherent. i think it has huge challenges for free speech. it will have a massive chilling effect on parents, on teachers, on counsellors. and actually, two bills were brought into parliament this year, both in the house of commons and the house of lords, that were completely thrown out of parliament because it's so difficult to legislate in this area whilst protecting free speech and parental rights. and i think if they try to go down this route, they will find an absolute minefield and they will they will have a severely detrimental effect on free speech and potentially put some
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very vulnerable children at risk. >> well, one kind of free speech. so conceivably it would be absolutely fine to tell children that they might be trans, but it wouldn't be fine to tell them that they might not be trans. and that that is, i think, a concern for everyone. miriam thank you very much. great to have you on the show. i hope to chat to you again very, very soon as miriam cates coming up as sir keir starmer attempts to forge an unlikely alliance with italian leader giorgia meloni, will the prime minister be viewed as a soft touch over the small boats crisis? i mean, i'm actually thinking he's hung a massive welcome sign on the white cliffs of dover, isn't he? plus, what sleepy joe got wrong here an acceptable that you have still not heard, at least publicly, from the secret service director. >> well, i've heard from him . >> well, i've heard from him. >> well, i've heard from him. >> but next, as the welsh government is plunged into chaos by vaughan gething resignation. and obviously, we know what's happening in scotland and to an extent, what's happening in brighton as well . extent, what's happening in brighton as well. is extent, what's happening in brighton as well . is angela brighton as well. is angela rayner wrong to call for a devolution revolution where more power will be taken from westminster? conservative member of the senate and shadow health secretary sam rowlands joins me next. lovely
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welcome back. so, welsh first minister vaughan gething has fallen on his political sword today, resigning just four months after becoming the leader of the senate. gething, who was also the leader of welsh labour, was forced to step down after four members of his own government quit in protest at his leadership . his leadership. >> i have worked hard, followed the rules and done really difficult and demanding jobs for my country. in 11 years as a minister, i have never , ever minister, i have never, ever made a decision for personal gain. >> meanwhile, scotland's devolved parliament has faced a series of snp scandals that have seen off their last two leaders, nicola sturgeon and humza yousaf, within a matter of months. this all comes as labour's deputy leader, angela raynen labour's deputy leader, angela rayner, today pledged to kick start a devolution revolution that would hand sweeping powers
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to communities across the country. >> well, first of all, this is an opportunity for those councils that haven't had a devolution package to really get on board and i hope that they'll take up that offer and we can devolve things like skills, housing, planning and employment support to really kick start what's happening in their local area . as the prime minister set area. as the prime minister set out, those with skin in the game are at the forefront of really making the change, and for us to get that growth across the whole of the country, we know that we have to work in partnership with local authorities , with mayors local authorities, with mayors and to really kick start our economy everywhere. >> all right. well, i welcome now conservative member of the senate and shadow welsh health minister sam rowlands. sam, thank you very much. is more devolution a good idea or actually, does it just lead to more scandal, more sleaze, less accountability? and it's a massive problem . massive problem. >> but the principle of devolution, of course, is not the worst thing in the world. more power down to people closer
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to where decisions are made. but you're absolutely right to point out to some of the experiences we've we've seen across the uk in recent times and especially here in wales, where, as you said in your lead up to this point that it's our our third, third, first minister, in a matter of, of months. so it comes down to, as you say, accountability also comes down to democracy now! first of all, in wales here, we've never seen more than 50% of people turn out for an election for these senate elections. and the final point on this, which i think is really important, is when devolution does take place in areas around the uk , those powers should not the uk, those powers should not just be hoarded in one central place, like in cardiff or like in edinburgh, actually, how it should be distributed out to our communities. >> yeah, fair play, especially in somewhere like wales with big rural communities, but more power would also end up in the hands of regional mayors. power would also end up in the hands of regional mayors . right. hands of regional mayors. right. so like brighton and hove's recently elected mayor, for example, mohammed asaduzzaman, i think we've got a little clip off here. but, belem , you know.
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off here. but, belem, you know. all right . okay. but all right. okay. but realistically, do we want more power in the hands of necessarily people like that? i mean, the chap who came third in the west midlands by—election was an overtly pro—palestine candidate. that was the only reason he was running . i mean, reason he was running. i mean, this is the other potential fallback, isn't it ? fallback, isn't it? >> yeah. there are there are risks with any electoral system. and i'm not saying that there should be more, more devolution at this stage. what we do need to see is that where there are devolved powers and devolution has happened like in wales and like in, in scotland, quite clearly , that people are clearly, that people are delivering on those powers they already have. and what we have here in wales is sadly the worst health services under a labour government. we have the worst education outcomes . under government. we have the worst education outcomes. under a labour government. we have the worst economy across the united kingdom. that's not acceptable. people use those powers of devolution, just aren't delivering . delivering. >> yeah, indeed. i mean , the >> yeah, indeed. i mean, the
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other argument would be that maybe labour are just trying to get people off the books. they're looking for someone else to blame. increased devolution might be a way of doing that. >> yeah, and i can understand that, that taking that taking place. and of course here in wales we've had 25 years of a labour government. there's never been anything other than labour. and sadly people are suffering as a as a result of that. so our position at the moment is that there should be no more devolution of powers to places like wales, governments , like wales, governments, devolved level need to get a grip and start delivering on people's priorities. like on health, like on education and like our economy. >> all right, sam, look. thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. sam rowlands is the conservative shadow health minister for wales. i know there might be some people from the greater manchester area shouting at their tv screens. now saying they think andy burnham has done a good job. okay, fine. but there is potentially a risk when it comes to increased devolution, isn't there? coming up though, as starmer looks to push for an eu wide returns agreement with italian prime minister giorgia meloni. will labour sign away our sovereignty
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when it comes to immigration? but next, well, do we think that the us now views us as a soft touch when it comes to islamism? and will the special relationship crumble now if trump's elected? and of course, we've got starmer here, make sure you stay tuned for my unmissable take at ten. i'll see you in a sukh. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. wednesday is going to be a much sunnier day and a drier day for most of us. it's also going to be feeling considerably warmer for this evening, though we've still got low pressure in charge across eastern areas, so still some heavy rain to come through some parts of this evening . but behind it, a ridge evening. but behind it, a ridge of high pressure will bring clearer skies for western areas and then more widely through the night across to the east. once those showers clear away into the north sea. so a dry night to
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northern ireland and parts of north—west scotland, but elsewhere, with more in the way of sunshine temperatures climbing in towards the mid 20s and for many of us into the low 20s. now thursday looks like another mainly dry and fine day. temperatures will climb higher as well on thursday, but all the while across the north and west it will remain that much cloudier, with a risk of some showery rain for parts of northern ireland and western scotland. so the further south and east you are, the more longer lived sunshine and heat you will see. temperatures will climb towards 30 degrees for friday. fri day. >> friday. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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just took over. >> why do our american allies think labour will turn britain into an islamist country? >> well, i think he said quite a lot of fruity things in the past as well. i don't recognise that characterisation . characterisation. >> labour say they don't know. we'll discuss also 1000 illegal immigrants since starmer became prime minister, plus a number of people crossing the channel now is shocking. >> it's record numbers as you how. >> now. >> summer's delayed a crackdown on foreign worker visas is britain wide open? and do not hit me. >> i don't like it. hit me. >> i don't like it . race. listen >> i don't like it. race. listen to me. jam, jam or ham ? to me. jam, jam or ham? >> nothing. >> nothing. >> jam or ham? no oh, just make it then . it then. >> a judge says the home office was wrong to say that smacking kids is always assault. is it ever okay? on my panel tonight it's columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, political correspondent at the express christian college and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner.
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oh, and yes, can you guess what's wrong with this ? get what's wrong with this? get ready, britain, here we go . ready, britain, here we go. does our greatest ally really think labour will turn us into an islamist country. think labour will turn us into an islamist country . next? an islamist country. next? >> the latest gb news. at just after 10:00, dame priti patel will stand in the conservative leadership race after being urged to run by fellow mps. that's according to a report from the telegraph out tonight. it's understood the former home secretary has already assembled a campaign team funded by high profile tory donors, and is expected to make a formal
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announcement by the end of the week . it'll be the first time week. it'll be the first time the 52 year old has made a run for the leadership. meanwhile, the former prime minister boris johnson has met with donald trump at the republican national convention in wisconsin. in the states following the assassination attempt on him three days ago. mrjohnson said they discussed ukraine and said he had no doubt that mr trump, who's now the official republican nominee for president, would be strong and decisive in supporting that country. his comments come despite suggestions that a second trump administration could restrict military assistance to ukraine. mr trump has often criticised nato and has often criticised nato and has just chosen jd vance as his running mate, a politician who believes american dollars going to ukraine would be better spent on supporting american citizens. instead now our news here at home, jay slater's mom says the confirmation of her son's death in tenerife is the worst news she could have received. in a
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statement, debbie duncan said she can't believe what's happened to her beautiful boy , happened to her beautiful boy, adding our hearts are broken. the 19 year old, from lancashire disappeared on the spanish island a month ago after attending a music festival. a spanish court today said he was identified by his fingerprints dunng identified by his fingerprints during a post—mortem, and the injuries to his body are consistent with a fall which then led to his death . vaughan then led to his death. vaughan gething told the welsh parliament today that serving as first minister had been the honour of his life, as he announced he was stepping down after just four months in the job. earlier, four members of his cabinet quit, saying they didn't think he could deliver a stable government. he's been under increasing pressure since losing a no confidence vote last month over concerns about a donation to his leadership campaign, but he insists he's done nothing wrong . the new done nothing wrong. the new labour government says its doors are open to areas of the uk
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which want to take on more powers from westminster. the deputy prime minister, angela raynen deputy prime minister, angela rayner, saying today her so—called devolution revolution is promising to transfer more power away from whitehall than ever before. she's written to local council leaders urging them to partner with the government . secretary to the government. secretary to the treasury james murray said the country will definitely benefit . country will definitely benefit. and just lastly, a woman has denied assaulting the reform uk leader whilst he was out campaigning in essex ahead of the general election . 25 year the general election. 25 year old victoria thomas bowen is accused of throwing a milkshake at nigel farage last month . the at nigel farage last month. the reform uk leader, who's now the mp for clacton , was covered in mp for clacton, was covered in the drink after leaving a rally where he'd been addressing supporters. prosecutors say £30 worth of criminal damage was caused to his jacket. miss thomas bowen has been released on unconditional bail and will be back in court in october. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm polly
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middlehurst. i'm back in an houn >> see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> welcome along. so we all know that labour's new foreign secretary thinks these soon to be president of the united states is a kkk white supremacist, sympathising misogynist. but if trump's vp pick, jd vance, is anything to go by, it looks like the americans don't think very highly of labour either. >> what is the first truly islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon? and we were like, maybe it's iran. you know , like, maybe it's iran. you know, maybe pakistan already kind of counts. and then we sort of finally decided maybe it's actually the uk since labour just took over. >> well, labour did their to best hit back today. >> well i don't think anyone
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here in britain would recognise that caricature. look, politics is, isn't it? well, politics is controversial. you know, president trump is controversial. it should be no surprise he's picked somebody who's also controversial as her running mate. look, in the end, who the american people elect to be their president and vice president is for them. >> well, i suppose somebody could point out that labour mps have been happy to go on pro—palestine marches alongside some people who have actually supported islamists, or that sir keir starmer thought shamima begum should be allowed back to britain, or that sir keir starmer did give legal advice to a now banned terrorist group. but luckily for the labour leader, the conservatives have decided to also distance themselves from the soon to be vice president of america's comments, >> i disagree fundamentally with a lot of what the labour party stand for and what they're going to do in government, but i disagree fundamentally with the comments by jd. vance. that's not to say that we won't work very closely with him. and
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indeed, president trump, should he be re—elected . he be re—elected. >> well, j.d. vance's comments tell us that our special relationship is going to be very difficult between the trump and scarborough administrations. but i think it also tells us something else. our greatest ally can see that we have a massive problem with the unchecked rise of islamism, and they worry that the new labour government won't take that problem seriously enough. let's get our thoughts. my panel tonight, columnist and broadcaster esther krakue joins us alongside senior political correspondent at the daily express . it's christine corgi, express. it's christine corgi, an author and broadcaster. amy nicole turner. christine, do you think we have a right to be worried about the threat of islamism under a labour government, whether they quite recognise it or take it seriously enough ? seriously enough? >> i think we have, a right to be alert to the threats , be alert to the threats, regardless of the political rosettes of the government. we've been rightly worried about what's been happening over the last few years under the conservative government and i
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think there have clearly been failures of integration in certain cities. and labour bore the brunt of that. on election night with those astonishing and incredibly surprising defeats, including of a member of the shadow cabinet, jonathan ashworth in leicester , so they, ashworth in leicester, so they, i'm hoping will be alert to the threats here. but there clearly needs to be a response and we can't brush it under the rug. and that's not to say that, muslims don't have a right to be vocally aggrieved about what is happening in gaza. as many, as many non—muslims are, but i am concerned about sectarian voting, as has been highlighted by nigel farage and others, and we've seen some other countries in europe that have addressed this that are perceived as liberal countries that have, looked at who can move into certain areas to try and get those demographic balances more
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representative and counterbalanced out. >> i do wonder, you know, all right. >> okay. so he was he was kind of joking there, esther, but is that really a bit of the way that really a bit of the way that our closest ally kind of views us? do we think that we might be a bit of a soft touch when it comes to islamism? >> well, it was a bit of a shameless jab, but there is an element of truth there, fortunately or unfortunately, the americans can say what they like because they're more important to us than we are to them, quite frankly, look, the uk does have a problem with islamism, and as we've seen recently, it has a problem with increasingly sectarian voting because of this whole israel—gaza conflict. i'm not sure whether he was talking specifically about gaza and what we've seen in the recent election or islamism, and sort of it's linked to obviously sort of it's linked to obviously sort of home—grown terrorism, which the uk probably a bit of all of it. well, i think he's a very learned man. so i suspect he was both was the uk are still struggled to deal with. we've we've struggled to tackle you know groups i self—isolating and the increasing rise of extremism particularly islamist extremism in these sort of communities that live parallel lives, to the
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rest of us, and that is that is very true. now to the extent that that would widely influence politics in the uk on a national level, of course, is not quite significant. it's more about, you know, making our lives a living hell and not knowing who your neighbour is or whether they want to set you up for being like, blow you up for being like, blow you up for being an infidel, which again, is a very valid point. again, i do think it's in bad taste, though, because that's not exactly how you want to start off your relationship. >> no it's not. i mean, that's i mean that that guy, he obviously does not care about the fact that he's about to be, as all things stand at the moment, vice president, we've got a labour government here, and he's making quips about whether or not the labour government is going to turn us into the first nuclear armed islamist state. >> i mean, it's quite extraordinary thing to say . but extraordinary thing to say. but again, i think it comes down to that question of perception, doesn't it? and you know, this may or may not be unfair, right? you know, the idea that keir starmer was seen as being a bit soft when it came to people like shamima begum or whether labour mps out there, you know, marching with pro—palestine
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individuals, you know, some of whom have had placards that he said i fully support hamas and things like that. whether there is that perception across the atlantic there, that labour is softer when it comes to islamist terrorism. >> i think you're really overemphasising. how much americans know or care about what's going on here in the uk. that's that. and honestly, i reckon he was at the national conservatism thing in washington. he'd been chatting away to suella, maybe liz truss. they told him a few things about like no go zones that they've just kind of made up. and then he was like, hey, i'll say something that will tune with the british members of the audience who are here at the national conservative convention. so that would suggest that they would like what he's saying, and he'd get a bit of a round of applause. and i think it just goes as deep as that. >> honestly. be that as it may, though, it stings because it's kind of true. the elements of it. that's true. this is the thing. it wasn't like, you know, everyone in britain has red hair. it was, you know, islamism in britain is a threat that we are taking. but it is us the extent to which he's actually knowledgeable about domestic british politics. i agree with
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you. it could be quite sketchy because he's not british. that being said, though, the reason why it's made headlines and the reason why people are saying ouchis reason why people are saying ouch is because we do have a problem with it. we do. we've not tackled since like the late 1990s, when people like trevor phillips were talking about, you know, groups, community self—isolating, people living in this country for decades, not even speaking english, people, home grown terrorists, because people can literally live in enclaves where they're they're being indoctrinated with these toxic views to hate britain and the people who inhabit it. we haven't grappled with that. and it's just getting worse and worse. okay. >> but equally, you can't just focus on that side of extremism. you also have to talk about right wing extremism, which is very much a threat as well, i know, to the size of the threat of islamist terrorism in this country. >> that's a complete fallacy. i mean, it is. >> well, i think it's also a complete fallacy saying that it was integration that caused people to not vote for the labour party in the recent election that jonathan ashworth lost his seat because of integration. no he didn't. he lost his seat because of terrible labour communications over the issue of gaza. >> but hold on, well, fraudulent, very fraudulent. >> and lies about about him put out by someone who is ironically
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now in trouble with the police . now in trouble with the police. >> ironically, i think, jd vance may have done, our own foreign secretary, david lammy, quite a quite a helpful job here, right. because now they've both made indiscreet, offensive, undiplomatic comments about relative. you know him about britain and our own foreign secretary, about donald trump . secretary, about donald trump. so maybe maybe that's his. maybe that's his bargaining card , that's his bargaining card, which is we'll forget what you said, if you'll forget what i repeatedly insulted donald trump on about , he repeatedly insulted donald trump on about, he can say that because he's the second most powerful man of the most important country in the world. >> britain is like like a floating middle power. >> do you know what ever sliding >> do you know whatever sliding into. i was so surprised when i was in the us a couple of weeks ago, and i was watching us news that they didn't mention our general election once, and we are very irrelevant to them. and i was asking people, do you know rishi sunak? do you know they were more interested in the french election? you're right, and no one knew either of them actually. >> rishi sunak. yeah absolutely.
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yeah. >> and one person very much enjoyed his meeting with rishi sunak last week a us cab driver said to me, oh, do you guys get to vote? because he thought we had a monarchy and we were subjects and wouldn't that be blessed? well, we do have a monarchy, but you know what i mean. >> all right guys, well look coming up. >> i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages to bring you and the snp supporting newspaper, the national, has now apologised for this front page. was it xenophobic against engush was it xenophobic against english people? keir starmer is attempting to woo italian right wing leader giorgia meloni. can he convince europe that he's the man to stop the boats? i'll be joined by former mp, labour mp ivor caplin for all of that as well. and is it ever okay to smack your kids? stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. still to come. are whizzing through the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. they're coming in thick and fast as we speak. and, yes, in case you missed it as well, it does appear that priti patel is now officially going to be running for the tory leadership. so more on that. but it's been reported that keir starmer will attempt to build an unlikely alliance now with giorgia meloni later this week as he meets italy's right wing prime minister at blenheim palace on thursday. well, look, sources say that despite their political differences, starmer hopes that meloni could become an important ally in his plan to stop the
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small boats. starmer is thought to be open to an eu wide returns agreement in an attempt to make britain a less attractive destination for migrants thinking of crossing the channel. but meloni support would be for critical such a deal after she successfully led attempts to reform eu migration rules last year. well, i mean, this does come hot off the heels of the latest migration milestone yesterday, more than 1000 legal migrants have now crossed the channel since starmer became pm just 11 days ago. it also comes hot off the heels of ursula von der leyen, the head of the eu, completely snubbing keir starmer. she will not be attending this uk, eu reset meeting. i welcome now former labour minister ivor caplin. ivor, thank you very, very much . it's caplin. ivor, thank you very, very much. it's keir caplin. ivor, thank you very, very much . it's keir starmer very much. it's keir starmer just going to be an incredibly soft touch here when it comes to giorgia meloni. i mean, what's he got to offer her, >> well i think the thing about italy is it's got issues about
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what's happening there in boats in a different part of the sea compared to the channel for us, i think for keir, he's obviously got to have those conversations with people across the eu because for most of the last 4 or 5 years, we've not been engaging at all with the eu. you know, that's a matter that that is clear. for, for, for people. so i think it's a very sensible idea to at least start having conversations and see what progress could be made. >> i do just wonder, i, i do just wonder whether or not he'd be really happy for a country like italy , which is a huge like italy, which is a huge entry point into the eu to turn the boats back, use a third country like rwanda and start deporting people, ignoring the echr. he just doesn't have the bottle to do it himself. >> well, he's not going to do that anyway. i mean, the rwanda thing is gone. it's not going to happen, >> and eu country, eu countries are looking at using it though,
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aren't they. >> and he knows that there. >> and he knows that there. >> i think what will happen is there is bound to be when you've got 27 countries, you're able to deal with the whole of, of the issues around people coming to the coming in in boats or, or however the difference for us is we've got the channel and there is france and we have to have those relationships with the french and i and i think where keir is going and i think this is a very sensible thing to do. he's obviously going to say to people around europe, this is this is part of what i need to do as prime minister, and i want to help as well. >> yeah, fine. but but he put a huge amount of stake in the idea that i'm keir starmer , i can that i'm keir starmer, i can have a better relationship with the european union. and then at the european union. and then at the very first opportunity, ursula von der leyen has told him to swivel. she's not coming to blenheim palace, she's not going to be meeting with him at this uk. eu reset for a bloke who was supposedly nice and soft and cosy with the european union. actually, i'm sorry, but
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do they even know who he is ? do they even know who he is? >> well, i didn't know that . but >> well, i didn't know that. but the fact that she's. not not not coming to the uk. it's on thursday, i think, isn't it, next thursday. yeah. and i can understand that sometimes she, she, she just might have decided not to come. and of course, you know, we are outside the, the eu that that's the issue. so, it's not what, what, i would want or people, you know, would want because we want to be, you know, at least to have a relationship with the european union that allows some of these issues to be dealt with. and there are , be dealt with. and there are, you know, you you, patrick and i know there are issues around all sorts of things. like, you know, young youngsters going and being able to go abroad without all the problems and all those sort of things. so, you know, there are lots and lots of issues around. >> i do get that. >> i do get that. >> but but, you know, but he
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scrapped the rwanda plan. the person that he wanted to be in charge of his new border command thing has turned the job down. so that doesn't exist. you've got 1000 people crossing the channel within the last 11 days. some of those days it's been bad weather. so really thousand people have arrived in about 6 or 7 days, which is quite a high number. and he's told us, don't worry, because what i'm going to do, just stop the boats, is work with the european union to smash the gangs and the european union have not bothered to turn up for the first meeting. they were supposed to have with him. do you not think that maybe voters have a right to be a bit concerned about that? >> no. let's wait and see what happens. because, you know, one thing we must say, what this is, i think day 13 or 14 or. yeah since the election, you know, there's a there's a period of time that the, the, the new government needs to actually get these, these matters going. and i think, you know, there's been good stuff already on some of the issues around, you know, rwanda. and, and, and also around the, the, the border
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issues that are starting to look, but it's going to take time. it's going to take time . yeah. >> but what what are those good things. >> go on either. come on. you know what. what are what are those good things that we're starting to see because, i mean, he's also decided to row back on the foreign students. but but then that's the legal stuff. but you know, come on. what what are the good things that we're seeing already? well, i, i think if you, if you try and run , run, if you, if you try and run, run, run a government, you can't do it in ten days or 12 days or whatever it is, there needs to be time to actually develop these. >> these matters properly and effectively. and i think that's the key that that keir will want to try and achieve with european colleagues, next, next thursday, coming to or this coming thursday. sorry. coming, coming to the uk in that kind of area. i think we do need to at least have a relationship with those other countries so that we can maybe see how it will work in,
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in the longer term, because that's the key here. it's not about what we're doing now. it's about what we're doing now. it's about how do we get this right and as quickly as we can. >> all right. i'll have a look. thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. that's former labour minister there, ivor caplin. thank you, okay. all right. well, you know, look, i hate to say this , but i don't i hate to say this, but i don't think we know what the plan is. do we know ? coming up, i've got do we know? coming up, i've got yet another joe biden gaffe to bnng yet another joe biden gaffe to bring you, can you work out what the blunder is here? >> it acceptable that you have still not heard, at least publicly, from the secret service director? >> oh, i've heard from them. >> oh, i've heard from them. >> yeah, i'll reveal all. but next, my panel returned to run you through the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. so, look, stay tuned. there are a of corkers on including an intervention from priti
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christys. tonight, i've got the very first look at tomorrow's front pages for you . let's do front pages for you. let's do it. all right, so we go with the metro. dear gareth, they've got, southgate resigns. he's walking out the door. and what i think here is a love letter to gareth southgate. so we could just go over that, can't we? the independent starmer's 35 new bills to take back control of britain. pm shamelessly steals tory's brexit slogan as he prepares to launch labour plans to take the brakes off the country with flagship policies on wealth creation, rail reform and a house building boom. so that's the front of the independent. we go to the ai reeves pushing for brexit reset to help boost the uk economy . to help boost the uk economy. the chancellor sees building a better relationship with the eu as a way to boost sustained growth in britain and avoid the need for tax hikes or spending cuts. fine. i will just say what i've already said a couple of times tonight, which is that ursula von der leyen is apparently now not coming to the uk eu reset meeting, which i think tells you everything you
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need to know about how well that's going so far. but we go to the daily mail pm only debate will be how not if we build the king's speech today, this is tomorrow. we're currently living in the future. today will kerb the power of residents to block controversial developments, even in some green belt areas. so sir keir starmer will launch a fresh assault on the planning system, meaning that communities can debate only how, not if homes are built . so yeah, i suppose are built. so yeah, i suppose it's taking control away from local communities and making it more national focus. saying we need this amount of housing and it is. some of it is going to be built, you know, on that golf course at the back of your house, basically the telegraph, johnson asked trump to stand by ukraine. so the former prime minister is speaking to the person who is probably going to be the next president of the united states, saying that he needs to, stand by ukraine. also, starmer pledges to take the brakes off and build 1.5 million new homes. the undercurrent of this 1.5 million new homes, though, is that who are those homes going to be given to? and labour has already said that some of those homes
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are going to be given to people who are recently qualified asylum seekers. so it could just be not just you're going to get a housing development in your back garden, but housing development could also be from people from eritrea. so, you know, there's that isn't there? i'm joined now by my press pack columnist and broadcaster esther krakow, senior political correspondent for the daily express. christie and corgi, and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. now, i think this story is possibly a little bit more interesting than whether or not jones homes are going to turn up and, you know, fill your back garden with people from sudan or wherever else in the world. a high court judge has ruled that the home office was wrong to say that smacking your kids should always count as assault . so the ruling states assault. so the ruling states that current home office guidance to police, which advises that it is illegal in all circumstances for parents to hit their children, is, quote, obviously wrong. so the judge said that he did not consider it to be the law of england, that the gentlest of smacks administered by a parent to their child is a recordable crime of common assault until the parent is charged and proves otherwise at trial. so. right.
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look, let's simplify this, esther. is it ever okay to smack your kids? >> yeah , sometimes, i think >> yeah, sometimes, i think look, the culture matters, because if you grow up in a culture where it was, it's not a big deal to like , smack your big deal to like, smack your kid, to teach them boundaries or whatever. that's fine. but obviously, if you're here in the uk where they think, oh, but they they can't smack you back or it's just a child, it's completely different. i've mostly seen smacking in my in my lifetime done with actually boys andifs lifetime done with actually boys and it's by their fathers. and so you see a situation where a young boy starts kicking his father or, you know, picking a fight with a grown man that he can't win. and sometimes i'll see men smack their kids and say, i'm bigger than you. i'm stronger than you. you don't pick fights, you can't win. and that actually teaches them boundaries, because then when they grow up, they don't think they grow up, they don't think they can just start throwing their weight about and picking fights in the streets and all of that. now some people might think, oh, you should just have a gentle word with them. but every child is different. and i think to demonise parents that are actually trying to do something, obviously there's there are instances of abuse and people can take it too far. but to say that, oh, all smacking is
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assault. okay, well then why don't you write a handbook on the ideal parenting and tell us how to keep kids in line these days?! how to keep kids in line these days? i don't think it's necessary for all kids. it wasn't necessary for me. >> but in my imagine you were an angel >> you never caused any problems to anybody. >> you know, actually, also raising girls, they're a bit more manageable than boys. >> okay, christian, were you smacked, >> i remember on, on on one occasion, but not not particularly. >> not as a child. >> not as a child. >> no. and you've turned out all right . right. >> yeah. no. >> yeah. no. >> yeah. no. >> yeah. so do you know what? i'm a bit woke on this issue. yeah. yeah i so what i would say on this particular story is, is legally , this judge was legally, this judge was absolutely right, there is no law against, smacking children in england. i think there may be in england. i think there may be in some of the devolved areas. and i find it very odd that, that kicking or beating an animal is more legislated against than, than child
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protection. obviously, if you're beating a child up, if you're bruising it, that is. yeah that is assault and illegal. but there is no there is no protection against smacking. as far as i'm concerned. i don't think smacking necessarily teaches a child to understand why they've done a wrong thing. and i think there are better ways. now, i'm not a gentle parenting sort. i think you should tell children off and you know, by all means you can raise your voice and you know whatever and take and take. it's absolutely about boundaries and absolutely about boundaries and absolutely about boundaries and absolutely about having a child as well, i don't know why i'm giving parenting advice. >> i'm not a parent, but it is also about whether whether or not it actually achieves anything. i don't know if it achieves something. >> and i think i think sometimes it teaches children. it doesn't teach children to understand their behaviour, but what it can do is build into a child an idea that violence and beatings can be legitimate retribution for wrongdoing. and i'm not sure that's a healthy lesson.
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>> i mean, i genuinely very much see both sides on this. >> and like, there was the very odd occasion when i was growing up, when i was i do think, by the way, i always absolutely deserved it, like i, i did. i like drawn on the walls or something. do you know what? >> it doesn't warrant that. >> it doesn't warrant that. >> but then kicked off. no, honestly, amy, i was like. and every single time. >> and there's been a few banksy a handful of times. >> yes. you know where i was. i look back on it now and every single one of those, i think i absolutely deserved it. it didn't really hurt because of the way it was your mom, the way it wasn't your dad. >> but this is the thing. >> but this is the thing. >> no. and, no, she's not going to like this, is she? yeah, it was, it was. but then i got to a certain age where i could see her gearing up for it. and the arm would come up, and i was like, i was gone. by the time she got. like, i was gone. by the time she got i like, i was gone. by the time she got. i was out the way, you know? and then. and then she ended up just swatting at nothing. right. but. yeah. i mean, what's your views on this? do you think it's ever okay to smack a child? >> no, because every single child psychiatrist, psychologist, child development expert has said it is a terrible
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idea and will lead to bad consequences down the line. and when you talk about boundaries, i think it just teaches them that they can use that similar technique when they're older. i think of kids as like tiny little drunk adults. that's what they are. they're just flailing around in the world, having tantrums, not really knowing what's what. and if you then smack one to teach them a lesson, it just escalates. you see the situation. >> i would i would take that point if there weren't. so it's after 9 pm, right? if there weren't so many brats in the world. >> but there are brats because of things like this. >> i wasn't expecting that. i thought, aren't you going to say something else? >> you know what my mother might be watching? i don't. >> and the reason why. the reason why i say this is because there is this idea that, like, children are just. on there'll be children. kids will be kids until they're suddenly, like, 18. and we expect them to be adults. children are adults in training. that's what they are. they're not. >> in that case, you wouldn't hit an adult, would you? >> no. but here's the thing. sometimes you need to actually show people the consequences of their actions to enforce boundaries. and this is why i've said, little boys. i've seen little boys go on rampages like beat up their parents or like saying, oh, you can't hurt me or whatever, and you have a strong
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father that will take that kid or smack them or whatever and say, i'm bigger than you, i'm stronger than you. you don't pick fights, you cannot win. and from that day on, that child will learn. actually, i need to know my limits and i actually need to understand that i can't go pick fights in the streets of london. because one day you'll catch someone on the wrong person on the right day, and they'll teach you a lesson you'll never forget. and it's actually more effective if you teach kids the boundaries of their own, sort of violence or whatever. you don't have these kids out in the streets taking knives, saying, i can stab you because i have a machetes knife. excuse me, but that might teach you a lesson. >> i don't know, ijust you a lesson. >> i don't know, i just feel like that's all very. do as i say, not as i do. which doesn't really work in practice because you're planting the seed that using it that way of disciplining is appropriate. and if i, if i smack christian now, i'll get arrested or i'll at least get ferociously trolled on twitter for being abusive . you twitter for being abusive. you see, it's wrong. >> all right, where's it along? >> all right, where's it along? >> because the snp supporting newspaper, the national have been forced into a grovelling apology on the eve of england's
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euros final versus spain, they printed this front page a mocked up image of spanish midfielder rodn up image of spanish midfielder rodri kicking an overweight, tattooed england fan shaped like a football on a beach. the paper wrote every summer they fill up your beaches, they drink all your beaches, they drink all your beer, they make a mess of your beer, they make a mess of your plazas, they eat fried breakfasts all day instead of your wonderful food. they retire in your towns. they sponge off your public services. they don't even bother to learn the language. the national says it's time for revenge . our message to time for revenge. our message to spain save us from an england win can i just politely suggest with a risk of alienating the audience we do have in scotland? i'm not convinced that the scots travel that well either. >> the scots have never holidayed in spain and retiring on scottish beaches. yeah. are they talking about everywhere else? mainly, no, i mean benidorm , do you know what mean? >> i would, i would, i would have taken that from a beach if, i mean i like scottish people do
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all of that stuff as well. that is true. do you know what i mean? like that's not the. >> but but is any of that untrue? we do as english. we do a lot of those things. >> we do. but as you say, i've never do it. okay, fine. dripping in classism as well. yeah.i dripping in classism as well. yeah. i think a large part quite a quite metropolitan sort of sneering media looking down when we read it out, you, you had a little giggle. >> we all we all thought that was reasonably amusing. so i don't know why we all have to get all pearl clutching now. >> i wonder if a certain a certain type of xenophobia is okay, isn't it? it's like anti—english . anti—english. >> so this is the point that annoys me. >> the snp and plaid cymru and sinn fein and lots of other so—called left wing nationalist causes are allowed to get away with things that english nationalism or american nationalism or american nationalism could, could never get away with. and it's disgustingly hypocritical. and my view is that for the last ten years, the snp have been a major political force and they've had to appeal across most of
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scotland. they've had to look respectable, they've had to court 45, 50% of the vote. so they've had to extinguish this. so now, of course, this wasn't an snp publication, but the nationalist, essentially the pravda of the snp organisation. and, and i think what's happened here is after the general election, scottish nationalism is in retreat. it's got a smaller base than ever. it's a minority pursuit. and so what is happening is the natural forces of nationalism, the ugliness, the bigotry are starting to emerge more prominently and that's the result of it. i think we'll see more of it. >> okay. well, i'll terrifying, isn't it? >> but anyway. right. so three days on the paper's editor, laura webster, released this statement to say we set out to make a light hearted joke that wouldn't be taken too seriously in the build up to a football match. our intention was to make it over the top and tongue in cheek. however, we admit that the front page didn't deliver what we set out to do. we leaned into lazy stereotypes and we shouldn't have . we've listened shouldn't have. we've listened to feedback, reflected on our decision making, and have reached the conclusion that we got this one wrong. the front
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page crossed a line . page crossed a line. >> we are here to do that. >> we are here to do that. >> i think i think the important thing is for us to not get too angry at it, and instead look at how the england team can learn from the scotland team on how to improve in our football. >> absolutely, yes, scotland invented football though. >> don't forget exactly . well, >> don't forget exactly. well, very wonderful. they did. they did. yeah >> well the game is the world and the world did it better. >> so anyway, spanish star rodri was the player on the national's front page and by the sound of it, he'd actually get along quite well with the scottish nationalists because here he is at their victory celebrations in madrid, chanting gibraltar is spanish ! spanish! >> the tories is by your death, by your gibraltar espanol kaja kallas espanol. >> yeah, so he's now got to go back to manchester and play his football there. so, you know, be
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interested to see how well that goes down. but coming up, a second professional has been sacked from strictly come dancing over allegations of physical and verbal incidents. could it be the end for the jewel in the bbc's crown? i'm also going to be talking about tonight's greatest briton and union jackass plus, which british newspaper has felt the wrath of republican marjorie taylor greene. >> and we have to put up with the most unreal amount of because of little liars like you . because of little liars like you. >> i gave the game away, but the name was in the top corner. but more on that clip and more tomorrow's front pages. when i see you in
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foundations for more buildings. so, yeah , again, it's going to so, yeah, again, it's going to be part of a national house building agenda . you're not building agenda. you're not really going to get a say in it, there's the guardian turmoil for labourin there's the guardian turmoil for labour in wales after gething resigns as first minister. this guy could have gone actually a month or so ago. he just loaned it out a bit. >> 18 days, i think. >> 18 days, i think. >> yeah. yeah, exactly. it's the same issue that's done for him in the end. i mean, absolutely pathetic. but there we go, yeah. okay. gareth southgate waving goodbye as well. cheers, guys. thanks for the memories. let's go to the daily express. so how exactly will you stop the boat, sir keir? as record migrant numbers cross the channel in a single day since the election. that's what they express. are asking. prince william also pays tribute to class act gareth southgate. let's go to the mirror. strictly new regime bbc chaperone rafe bbc chaperone pledge as tv star zara opens up over abuse. all training will be policed now. >> apparently it's ludicrous. >> apparently it's ludicrous. >> well, we can't do that. >> well, we can't do that. >> it's latin dancing. do you know how up close and personal.
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>> i think it's about the techniques and the training rather than the actual dancing. >> and you make promises. >> and you make promises. >> you get pregnant. >> you get pregnant. >> we are after the watershed, we are unrwa and we're live so wrong. >> okay, well , look. no, but >> okay, well, look. no, but there are there are serious undertones to this. i will i will admit i have not really bothered to follow this bbc story particularly closely, because i don't have much of an interest in strictly. but, you know, there are some pretty serious allegations being lobbed around about things that go on behind the scenes at strictly, aren't they? honestly if you go to like a latin like salsa club or something like that. >> but but it's not those undertones. oh >> but but it's not those undertones. on go on. it's more, the, it's more the physical side of professional dance training, not the not the sexual undertones, more the actual hitting each other . hitting each other. >> it's back to smacking back to ballet. >> like when like the male dancers lift up the female dancers, the ballerinas. do you know where their hands are? >> literally no. but again, it's not. it's more about the harsh training, not where the hands are. >> it's how hard they can't
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handle it. don't just do it. don't do strictly okay. >> all right. >> all right. >> so in other news, joe biden seems to be giving us a new gaffe every single day, doesn't he, at the moment. and in his latest slip up, he managed to misgender his female secret service director, kimberly cheadle, as he was quizzed about the assassination attempt on donald trump. >> it acceptable that you have still not heard, at least publicly, from the secret service director? >> oh, i've heard from them, but have you heard from her? >> i think he tried to help him out a bit , though, didn't it? out a bit, though, didn't it? well, you've heard from her. it's her. i mean , not not great, it's her. i mean, not not great, really, is it? but are you ready for another car crash? american interview? well, earlier today, no nonsense republican marjorie taylor greene spoke to the times newspaper and times radio as well . she was asked about donald well. she was asked about donald trump's new running mate , jd trump's new running mate, jd vance, and his historic comments, comparing trump to hitler and calling the uk an islamist state wouldn't go down too well. have a watch because you choose to only take certain words from people and then
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that's what you want to report. >> shame on you , shame on you >> shame on you, shame on you because you no no no no no no. you're the you're the problem. and where is this woman from the times. you're from the times. okay. you're ridiculous . i want okay. you're ridiculous. i want you to know i'm a regular person like you. i'm also a mom. i have three kids, and we have to put up with the most unreal amount of. because of little liars like you that take your job and turn it into political activism. you're the cause of our country being divided. you're the cause of president trump almost being assassinated. you're the cause of everything wrong in evidence for those claims. no, no. you're done. you're done yet. go back. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> write strong stuff there and presumably that reporter thought that westminster was bad. >> turns out they do know who we are. the americans. >> well, there we go. >> well, there we go. >> i take it all back. it's all our fault. >> brilliant. everything's our fault. i mean , britain is the fault. i mean, britain is the new mossop. >> she's calling out political bias in journalism. >> well, it's good to know that low iq is not an impediment to
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getting into american politics. i don't understand why she thought the times was responsible for american division. the times is not in the us , as far as i'm aware. the us, as far as i'm aware. >> yeah, i did wonder if she thought maybe it was the new york times book. >> maybe they do go by the times. >> yeah. in which case, slightly ironic. she's accusing other people of being stupid. >> yeah. you know. yeah. >> yeah. you know. yeah. >> because she said you're the problem. you're very certainly. and then. but where are you from? well, you know, the thing is, whoever you are, you're the problem. >> there's a certain section of the american electorate that actually finds that sort of abrasiveness appealing, which i find utterly bizarre. >> yeah, it's the i suppose it's like the american fight, in a way. anyway, it's times reveals there's greatest britain and union jackass. there's greatest britain and union jackass . okay, so we'll union jackass. okay, so we'll start with esther, your greatest britain, please, >> joe wicks , who celebrates >> joe wicks, who celebrates with his mum as he receives an honorary degree from loughborough university after claiming his sugar laden diet led to his behavioural issues at school, which i can totally believe, i get that. >> so this is the guy that made us, all do workouts during lockdown right ? lockdown right? >> yeah, exactly. kept me from
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gaining an extra ten kilos. >> okay, good. >> okay, good. >> i didn't, and that explains the ten kilos that i never lost. >> oh, don't be silly. no, but i was very conflicted about joe wicks at the time because i thought, you know. all right, fine. well done. you know , fine. well done. you know, doing, doing the nation's exercise for them. but also, he stopped guilt tripping me into its lockdown. i'd quite like to sit here in my underwear and eat kebabs for breakfast, you know? but there we go. different people, i suppose. yogi. >> yeah. so what i've done is i've chosen a goat, yeah. good good, a goat from guernsey as well. so it may not even be a greatest britain, depending on your on your geopolitical outlook. so what has happened is the king has given an honour to an eight year old golden guernsey goat. say that ten times fast, at a special ceremony which involved putting a bell around their neck, the breed will now be known as royal golden jerseys around the world. i can't do it. that's great, and i can't do it. that's great, and i was just reading that the breed were actually hidden indoors from the nazis during world war one to stop them being slaughtered. so legends all
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around these chaps. so no curry goat, then? gold golden girls . gold. >> royal gold is eight old. >> royal gold is eight old. >> like how long do goats live? is eight quite a good age i think. >> well, if you're putting them in curry it's not very long. yeah. yeah it depends i think i think the correlation between how long ago lives is, is directly tied to how popular goat is, is in that cuisine and in your country, right. in the canbbean. caribbean. >> it could be different in goat. >> goat wouldn't, wouldn't have seen to. >> no it wouldn't. >> no it wouldn't. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that goat would have been posthumously awarded something by the king. >> maybe they exist in the caribbean, but they're all being hidden. they were. >> this is it . there's a nazis >> this is it. there's a nazis eight goat. well, i didn't think they did. it turns out they just hate fan of curry. well, they . hate fan of curry. well, they. >> so, amy, go on. who's your greatest? i mean, beat that man. >> it's zara mcdermott who we were talking about earlier who found the courage to speak out about the strictly training because professional dance training culture is wild. and i think this is going to be the tip of the iceberg. look at her.
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she's gorgeous. >> if you look like that. oh, yes. no, you're missing. she's missing the point again. >> you might be slightly missing the point. yes she is. >> i can't articulate she can bnng >> i can't articulate she can bring excellent technique to any dance. >> no, she can, but she doesn't deserve to be bullied and hit in to order achieve those results in this air this evening. >> i'm with you. >> i'm with you. >> she has. she has levelled some pretty, pretty serious allegations. but i think also i almost think it's not the professional dancers fault. >> it's the culture of professional dance that is this is the thing people that say that know nothing about. i went to a i did professional dance. i was 18 years old, i went to a full time performing arts school and did ballet till i was 18. so. and i know because i've lived this. >> okay, the goat wins. all right , let's >> okay, the goat wins. all right, let's just >> okay, the goat wins. all right , let's just draw >> okay, the goat wins. all right, let's just draw a line under there sometime ago, today's greatest britain should have been honorary gay . have been honorary gay. >> greatest britain. well done. tamsin. fantastic lovely stuff. who's your union jack ass ? who's your union jack ass? >> the royal college of physicians , for telling us to physicians, for telling us to cut prescriptions to help the
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nhs or telling doctors to cut prescriptions to help the nhs reach net zero. and the guidance has been aimed at reducing the environmental and environmental impact of healthcare, which also urges gps to talk to patients about climate change. i don't think most people want to know about that while they're dying. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think the whole thing is ridiculous because it's also it's got, you know, work from home. it's got all sorts of stuff in it. yeah. good start. who's your union jackass? >> so there's this chap that most people haven't heard of called vaughan gething. and what he was was he was a really small character who was literally the prime minister of wales. and he's had to resign over a number of scandals, which he managed to cram into a period, i think amounted to about 2.2. liz truss's. so it's really impressive. and now he's gone. >> okay, fantastic. very quickly amy, jd vance, how dare he stick to microwaving tea and not knowing what roundabout is? >> oh, stick in your lane . >> oh, stick in your lane. >> oh, stick in your lane. >> okay. >> okay. >> aluminium. right, okay. today's winner of the union jackass is the royal college of physicians for saying that your doctors should be lecturing you more about climate change when
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actually, you'd just like to know what the heck that tumour is. okay thank you very much, everybody. what a wonderful show it's been. thank you, thank you, thank you, headliners are up next for a more detailed look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages, i'll be back again, as even pages, i'll be back again, as ever, from 9 pm. tomorrow. thank you. everybody who's been watching, who's been tuning in, who's been listening in. i will see you tomorrow at nine. see you then . you then. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. wednesday is going to be a much sunnier day and a drier day for most of us. it's also going to be feeling considerably warmer for this evening, though we've still got low pressure in charge across eastern areas , so charge across eastern areas, so still some heavy rain to come through some parts of this evening . but behind it, a ridge evening. but behind it, a ridge of high pressure will bring clearer skies for western areas and then more widely through the night across to the east. once those showers clear away into the north sea. so a dry night to
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come for most of us, we could see the odd shower moving in across northern areas of scotland, but clear skies mean the temperatures will fall away a little lower than they have done last night. so temperatures around 12 or 13 degrees at first thing. but it's going to be a very bright start to the day. i think we'll be making the most of the july sunshine. the best of the july sunshine. the best of the july sunshine. the best of the sunshine through the day will likely be across the south coast of england, parts of south wales as well. 15 or 16 degrees. first thing, fairly light winds as well. a bit more cloud across northern areas of northern ireland. parts of western scotland as well. we could see the odd shower moving in across the odd shower moving in across the highlands and the northern islands as well. but for most of us it's going to be a dry and bright start to the day on wednesday, which will really make a difference , i'm sure, and make a difference, i'm sure, and it should stay dry through much of the day. there is a risk of the odd shower developing across parts of england and wales, possibly up towards scotland as well. we'll also see thicker cloud moving in as this weather front approaches . it's not going front approaches. it's not going to make too much progress though, so it will just bring cloudier skies to parts of
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latest news headlines. and boris johnson has been meeting with donald trump at the republican national convention in wisconsin. in the states tonight following the assassination attempt on the former president just three days ago. mrjohnson said they discussed ukraine and said they discussed ukraine and said he had no doubt that mr trump , who's now the official trump, who's now the official republican nominee for president, would be strong and decisive in supporting that country. his comments come despite suggestions that a second trump administration could restrict military assistance to ukraine. mr trump has often criticised nato and has often criticised nato and has just chosen j.d. vance as his running mate, a politician who believes american dollars going to ukraine would be better spent on supporting american citizens instead. meanwhile, in news here at home, dame priti patel will stand in the conservative leadership race after being urged to run by fellow mps. that's according to a report from the telegraph out tonight. it's understood the former home secretary has already assembled a campaign
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