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illegal migration. >> also stop illegal migration. >> also stop illegal migration. >> we must also tackle it at source . soui’ce. >> source. >> so today i am announcing £84 million of new funding . million of new funding. >> great. so starmer thinks that sending £84 million to africa will stop the boats . well, i will stop the boats. well, i don't think that would have stopped this lot today, do you.7 plus stopped this lot today, do you? plus . big stopped this lot today, do you? plus. big debate tonight is david lammy right to give money to a un aid agency in gaza accused of helping hamas terrorists ? terrorists? >> also, this is a crisis for our party and if we don't realise the enormity of the problem and fundamentally change, we will have no chance of fixing it. >> rumours. rumours everywhere that suella braverman is about to defect to reform. could it happen this weekend? >> i named a, the secretary of defence. the black man? >> yeah . the other rumour was
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>> yeah. the other rumour was that joe biden would stand down this weekend, but apparently he's not going anywhere. and go go he's not going anywhere. and go 9° 9° 9° 9° he's not going anywhere. and go go go go go . sunbed wars. find go go go go. sunbed wars. find out what punishment sunlounger hogging brits could face this summer. on the panel tonight it is x bbc and itv political chief john sergeant political commentator suzanne evans and novara media's michael walker. oh yes. and what happens next here? >> what a display of sprinting from the young britain. >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. how is paying for a school in eritrea going to stop the boats . next? >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00. your
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headlines. the boss of cyber security firm crowdstrike, which is responsible for worldwide it outages, admits it could be some time before all systems are back up and running. time before all systems are back up and running . more than 3000 up and running. more than 3000 flights at many of the world's airports have been grounded since early this morning, with airlines unable to complete check ins. banks supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among the many who were knocked off line. those travelling by rail were also affected, with transpennine express, thameslink and southern among those who reported disruption. crowdstrike ceo says it's not related to a security incident or a cyber attack. in other news, the home secretary has branded violent disorder that broke out on the streets of leeds as audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested after trouble flared in the harehills area last night. vehicles were set ablaze and a police car overturned late last night with
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residents warned to stay indoors as helicopters and large police presence responded to the chaos . presence responded to the chaos. it's understood the riots were unked it's understood the riots were linked to local children being taken into care, yvette cooper says. those responsible for violent disorder in leeds should feel the full force of the law. >> been to talking west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident , but child protection incident, but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets, and also that the perpetrators feel the full force of the law . of the law. >> a woman believed to be from sudan drowned after an overcrowded migrant boat got into trouble in the english channel overnight . five people channel overnight. five people were pulled from the water and a further 86 others rescued by a french patrol vessel. at around
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1:00 this morning. they were all taken to calais. a spokesperson for number 10 says the incident underlines the stark reality of how dangerous the crossings are . how dangerous the crossings are. and if you've ever thought of managing the england squad, this could be your moment. the football association has posted an official job advert on its website for the role of head coach. the search is on for someone who will lead the men's team to win a major tournament and be consistently ranked as one of the top teams in the world. you'll have to get your application in quick, though the post says a number of candidates have already been identified to replace gareth southgate, but the fa is committed to an open process. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts .
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>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> today was a great day to be a channel migrants exclusive footage for gb news captured dozens of illegal migrants on their way to britain. keir starmer still hasn't found anyone to front the new border command unit that he's promised. there we go . some drone footage there we go. some drone footage for you there of some people just on their way to dover. so yeah, nobody to front up this new border command unit. but don't worry, because we're going to be paying for stuff like this. >> stop illegal migration. >> stop illegal migration. >> we must also tackle it at source. so today i am announcing £84 million of new funding for projects across africa and the middle east that includes humanitarian and health support, skills training, help with job opportunities and access to education. >> this is a vital part of
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gripping the migration crisis, so taxpayers are now going to be on the hook for £84 million. >> do we really think that building a new road or a school in sudan is going to stop the boats? there was a glimmer of hope, though. maybe we'd get a returns agreement with france. now starmer is promising a love in with the eu, but unfortunately, emmanuel macron has said that that was low on his priority list. so that's absolutely not happening. a firm no there from macron, no rwanda plan, no new head of border command, no returns deal with the eu. no clear plan for offshore processing. nowhere to put all the channel migrants. when we close the hotels, we're not leaving the echr now, look, i was not rishi sunak's biggest fan, but do you remember this? >> but i've got a plan to deal with it because i'm going to put people on planes. what are you going to do with them? i can tell everyone what i'm going to do. you might not like it, but i've got a plan because we've got to have a deterrent. what are you going to do? just tell
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everybody. what are you going to do with illegal migrants? sunak, please come. >> well, we're still waiting, aren't we? so far, the only thing we're doing to stop the boats is send more money to some very corrupt third world countries. is that the plan? let's get the thoughts from my panel tonight . former bbc and panel tonight. former bbc and itv chief political correspondent is john sergeant. i've also got political consultant suzanne evans and journalist michael walker as well, john, i'll start with you. forgive me, but sending £84 million to parts of africa and the middle east so that they might build a job centre or a school, i don't think it's really going to move the dial when it comes to the 500 or so, mostly young men that we saw crossing today alone. >> that's right. i mean, what's more likely to affect them is the fact that one person died last night and lots of them were taken by ship to calais. so it's not all these things are much more complicated than let's think of one simple plan. keir starmer was not suggesting for a moment that in 24 hours or so, you can change the whole position. what he's got to do is
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to try everything right across the board. it's a combination of pull factors , encouraging people pull factors, encouraging people to come to britain and push factors getting people out of the countries where they've been brought up, where they prefer to stay. but feel they can't stay. now, those are you can complain at various points. what you can't do is have a council of despair where you simply say, nothing can be done ever. every aspect is blocked because what you've got to try and do is to settle down and do your best over a whole complicated areas, including , frankly, giving money including, frankly, giving money to parts of africa and parts of the of africa where you might be able to improve things so that people wouldn't feel like part of me thinks that either do it or don't write £84 million is nothing really. >> when it comes to the scale of, well, it's just basically named two continents, right? that's not that's not a thing that's going to make any difference at all. so he's just a token gesture, which we're all paying a token gesture, which we're all paying for. obviously rwanda is not a thing. i'm not convinced that would have worked anyway. but we're scrapping migrant hotels. we're not going to leave
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the echr. we put a lot of eggs in the eu basket. they have basically told him to swivel. as it currently stands, this £84 million. suzanne, you know, a good use of taxpayers money, do you think? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely not. i mean, i think it's a disgraceful use of taxpayers money, really, given that we're already spending more than spain and italy and much of the western world's combined on on foreign aid. and here we are putting another 84 million into to projects which are kind of might make keir starmer feel good, but they're not going to really work. the whole point. one of the reasons we've got this small boats crisis is because countries in what we did used to call the third world are becoming more developed. they are becoming wealthier. let's not forget, these people on these boats are not poor. they can afford to pay people smugglers to come here. so it's not really targeting the people who've got the inclination to come here. this money, it's a complete waste of time. starmer doesn't have a plan. starmer's only plan was to scrap the rwanda plan. but the rwanda plan, for all its faults, was better than no plan. >> but it wouldn't have worked. it would not have worked. >> it wouldn't have worked.
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>> it wouldn't have worked. >> well, that's quite important, isn't it? it was a better plan. >> that would have been no plan, and it would have worked up to a point in that at least there was a deterrent effect there. you talked about the pull factor. keir starmer hasn't once mentioned the pull factor because he knows that means basically tackling the god that is the nhs and the welfare state and pulling people away and id cards and all sorts of other which you might bring. >> we're going to bring michael into this now. michael. yeah. so what we've seen from keir starmer so far obviously kind of presented a bit of a basket of things there that he's doing or not doing really. do you think he's got a coherent plan to stop the boats, or do you actually think he cares that much? >> well, i think he had very briefly a coherent plan. so it was actually a couple of years ago where he sort of announced that what we'd have is a deal with the with the european union, where we say we will take some asylum seekers from the continent if you agree to take back anyone who crosses the channel. and i think that would immediately work, because if people knew that the moment they crossed the channel, they'll get sent back to france. the boat people wouldn't bother any more. it would stop the boats. yeah,
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and you know, that's supposed to be what people cared about. if people really care about us never giving asylum to anyone, even never giving asylum to anyone, ever, they should be honest about that. but that would have been the plan that would have stopped the boats. now, i think the thing that scared him off that was potentially channels like yours saying, oh no, now we're voluntarily taking asylum seekers from the continent. but i think that would have been the only plan that would have worked and would have been somewhat humane when it comes to this money, i agree with you. i think it's more symbolic than than anything. it's important, though, that we sort of look at what are the top countries who are coming to the uk. it's not people from eritrea , right? it's people from eritrea, right? it's people from eritrea, right? it's people from eritrea, right? it's people from iran and afghanistan are the two highest countries. the last time i looked now iran, we have sanctions on them and afghanistan. i don't need to start that conversation. we all know that we invaded that country. so instead of us saying , country. so instead of us saying, oh, here's a few million quid here and there, i think it would probably make sense for us to say, where have we stopped a country becoming more successful than it currently is? now? no one's saying that if we hadn't invaded afghanistan, it would have been, you know, this, this beautiful ideal, but invading it probably wasn't very helpful. >> that is a very, very big picture thing , and there may
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picture thing, and there may well be some merit to that. well, we could we could what do we do? we could stop sanctions on iran tomorrow. >> we could lift sanctions on iran tomorrow. >> okay. well, we could do. yeah, fine. but that's not what iran, afghanistan that's at the moment. literally right now we've got we've got people probably in the channel, right. we've got people in the boats across the channel. it was a massive day today. we've got loads of footage of it earlier on. it was a huge day yesterday as well. and john, i just wonder, you know what on earth is keir starmer going to have to do? because the two big things that he wanted to do was get a new border command. apparently the person, neil basu, was the original one he wanted for that. so he doesn't want the job because he knows it's not going to work. >> another guy work with the last guy. it's not going to work. >> another guy quit yesterday or the day before. i think it was emmanuel macron came for this big love in at blenheim palace earlier and has said apparently quite categorically that that some kind of returns deal is very low down the list. so at the moment we have all of the poll factor and none of the push factors sure know this is difficult. >> one of the things i think people find difficult to understand on this side of the channeli understand on this side of the
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channel, i certainly do, is there's no seems to be no feeling in france of embarrassment that people don't say, oh, this is rather good, let's stay in france. there's no hints of that. it's just straightforward. cross france as soon as possible , wait till the soon as possible, wait till the channel and hope to go to britain. >> france. but i mean, there's no there's no sense of. >> but there's no sense at all of. but don't they think it might be a good idea rather than risk? i mean, that's what's amazing, isn't it? the simple question, why do people can you imagine yourself saying, would you like to get into this dinghy? >> i'm not sure the people of france care that they go, those migrants don't want to stay. how dare they? >> but that's also more people do apply for asylum in france than here. anyway. wait a moment. >> no, wait a moment. you may laugh at it, but there are some very serious, sensible people in france. >> so what if they were? why don't they ever say if people were going up to the top of scotland to do whatever or wherever, or getting a boat? >> i mean, the nordic regions people aren't going to go, you know, they didn't want to sell it, but it depends what people are talking about. >> look, there are sensible people. there are a lot of sensible people in france who
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certainly realise this is an issue. they're encouraging large scale, illegal activity in france. it's not just a joke. let's get them out to britain as soon as possible. it's much more complicated than that. it does affect their relationship with britain. britain does matter in terms of security of europe. there are all sorts of other issues. but if you just say, oh, it's a joke, the french are just trying to do this, let's forget them then. it's crazy. you'll get nothing done. >> did keir starmer overplay his hand when he came to ally pally was with the eu massively. >> you know this really annoys me. i've written two party political manifestos. i stress tested every single policy that went into both of them. you say, what are the unintended consequences? how much is it going to cost? is it going to work? you talk to people who know whether it's going to work or not. keir starmer didn't do any of that. he came up with soundbites. he put them in a manifesto and hey, then suddenly he has to enact them. and guess what? they don't work because he didn't stress test them first. okay. >> it drives me nuts because you've got to try it over the whole field of britain's relationship with the eu. >> exactly . no. but, you know, >> exactly. no. but, you know, talk to anyone i know because
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he's not in power. >> is it embarrassing in a week? >> is it embarrassing in a week? >> why hasn't he sorted this out in a week? it's not like that, john. >> you've had your fix today and that's fine. but we do. we do . that's fine. but we do. we do. michael, is it embarrassing for keir starmer that at the moment the european union aren't really acting like they particularly want to know him? and he was putting a lot of eggs in that basket when it came to stopping the boat. >> i think you're overplaying that point. i mean, i think the european union are going to be fairly warm to keir starmer. i think the idea that they'd say, oh, we'll take back people who crossed the channel. they've got their own far right. and i think to your point in terms of sort of aren't they embarrassed? i mean, more people apply for asylum in france in a way more in germany. so i think sort of when european leaders hear britain say, oh, we've got so many people applying for asylum here. they say, well, we've got more a lot smaller than i mean, we've got the same, we've got a similar economy, we've got the same size economy. i mean, we've got it's not about economy, it's about space. it's not about space. it's about economy. it's about if you can support people. >> we have a totally different nhs. the way in which stingy operates is completely different and we cannot cope. this island
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is full. >> one of the big issues down the line. we touched on it a bit last night, so i won't kind of bore our viewers and listeners with it too much again, but there is going to be an issue coming down the track with this house building thing, because x amount of house building has to then be social housing on developments as well. how are labour going to allocate who comes to the top of the queue? i think it's a very difficult thing for labour to do, to openly have a policy that prioritises brits on the housing, waiting list over people who've just arrived here. i don't see how they could play that with their base. but at the same time, when it comes to being allocated on the basis of urgent need i.e. who is at most risk of being imminently homeless? well, if you're shutting down migrant hotels and doing things like that, then it does beg the question, well, where are the asylum seekers and refugees anyway? >> that's another policy. >> that's another policy. >> they didn't think, oh, let's say we're going to build 1.5 million homes. sounds great. that's 800 million homes. what is it a day? i think? >> well, you can't be 800 million homes a day, 100 a day, 800. >> i get what you mean. >> i get what you mean. >> no, i mean, again, france builds more homes than that a yeanl builds more homes than that a year, i think. >> i think you've got this sort ofidea >> i think you've got this sort of idea of britain as this very pathetic place that can't take
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many migrants, can't build many homes. can't we get a can do attitude? >> yeah, but you're not going to build that many homes. >> you've got to stop in. >> you've got to stop in. >> france builds more homes than that a year. >> they've got the same population a couple of weeks after the election. so. and why aren't we sorting this out? you can't go on saying it over all the key issues. >> i get that, john. it'sjust >> i get that, john. it's just too silly. but on other things he's had a plan. so we've got timpson in place very quickly with the prison situation, for example. you look at it all, we are now not looking at a bloke who's got a coherent plan, or at least the first little bits of it might not have gone as he'd hoped. and now he's maybe chasing his tail. but we'll have to wait and see. anyway, coming up, tory mps failed to agree on a timetable for the leadership contest in a five hour meeting of the 1922 committee last night. look, is the party in freefall? but i think this will get you lot going. so there are rumours tonight that suella braverman is about to jump ship and join reform uk. so what's going to happen there? will she go? tory mp mark francois, the so—called leader of the five families? well, he joins me live in the studio very soon. but next, david lammy has announced today that the government will restore funding to the un's
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largest aid agency in gaza. that is despite the organisation's alleged links to hamas. so is he right to restore funding to a group that operates like a quasi state in gaza ? going head to state in gaza? going head to head on this are the director of the sanctuary foundation , doctor the sanctuary foundation, doctor krish kandiah, and the former spokesperson for the israeli government, ellen levy. this is patrick christys. tonight we're on gb
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up after tory mps failed to agree a timetable for the leadership race. and suella braverman is rumoured to be joining reform at some point soon. is it all falling apart? outspoken tory backbencher mark francois joins me very soon. but first was david lammy right to give more funding to unrwa, which is a human rights charity? isuppose which is a human rights charity? i suppose that has got links to hamas. it's time now for the had to had . right. so despite the to had. right. so despite the aid agency's controversial links to hamas, the foreign secretary, david lammy today announced that the government will restore funding to the un's palestine relief agency . unrwa. relief agency. unrwa. >> i was appalled by the allegations that unrwa's staff were involved in the 7th october attacks. >> we are reassured that after catherine colonna's independent review, unrwa is ensuring they meet the highest standards of neutrality and strengthening its
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procedures , including on vetting. >> u nrwa vetting. >> unrwa is absolutely central to these efforts. >> no other agency can deliver aid at the scale needed, so the previous government suspended funding to the organisation in january after allegations emerged that 12 unrwa staff were actually involved in the october 7th attacks on israel by hamas. >> but after an independent review found a lack of evidence for these claims, lammy has pledged to give the aid agency £21 million. okay, well that all sounds great, doesn't it ? sounds great, doesn't it? apparently they're going to be running schools, nurseries and hospitals . lam's decision marks hospitals. lam's decision marks a split between uk and us foreign policy. so the americans aren't doing this. so tonight i'm asking, was david lammy right to give more funding to unrwa in gaza? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay @gbnews is where you will find that twitter poll. but first going head to head on this now are the director of the sanctuary foundation, doctor chris skudder and former spokesperson for the israeli government, ayelet levy. thank
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you very much. great to have you both on. ellen. i will start with you. i mean, look, i suppose this independent review now has absolved unrwa of any links, has it to hamas. and so we can we can crack on and give them money. >> no, the independent review didn't do that. and in fact, that's not the question that it looked at. there's been a strange split screen moment in the last few weeks. every day the last few weeks. every day the idf has been reporting more counter—terror operations that it has been conducting against hamas. and islamic jihad terrorists hiding inside unwra buildings, inside unwra schools, inside unrra facilities . while inside unrra facilities. while the international leadership has said absolutely nothing unrwa as an integral part of hamas's military machine on the ground in gaza, i wish this weren't the case that a un agency on the ground were so complicit with the terror organisation , but the terror organisation, but thatis the terror organisation, but that is the reality. unrwa is a hamas front , and i think that hamas front, and i think that hard working british families need to realise that when the british government is taking their money and giving it to unrwa, they are making a direct subsidy to the hamas army of terror by giving it to the organisation that hired
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terrorists who took part in the october 7th massacre has been covering up how hamas is hijacking aid and, most egregiously, allows hamas terrorists to operate out of their schools with impunity , their schools with impunity, thus giving cover to the barbaric terror organisation that perpetrated those horrific attacks on october 7th. >> all right . attacks on october 7th. >> all right. i'll come back to you, doctor chris. yeah, i mean, that's quite a compelling case, isn't it, from elon there not to give money to this lot. i mean, well, i was going to say we don't give money to the taliban, but we do actually. so i suppose there is precedent. >> well, there are 30,000 people that work for unwra . that work for unwra. >> only 66 were under investigation and none of those were approved. >> so that's less than 0.2% of the unrwa. the u nrwa. >> workforce. the unrwa. >> workforce. it will be like saying we're going to ban the republican party because the shooter that tried to take out donald trump was a paid up republican. look, there are no other schools, right? there is no other infrastructure. there's no other infrastructure. there's no other infrastructure. there's no other body that's able to provide the kind of support that's needed in gaza. the events of the 7th of october were absolutely appalling. we do
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need to go after the terrorists and we need to get the hostages back , but we cannot allow back, but we cannot allow collective punishment for civilians in gaza. lancet the world's leading medical journal, predicts that unless we do something very radical, 186,000 people are likely to die in this conflict. and we can't let innocents be killed. >> okay , okay. and elon, i >> okay, okay. and elon, i suppose i'm. yeah. go on. >> no, i mean, ijust want to challenge that the lancet did not say that the lancet published a letter that speculated on the basis of for indirect casualties for every one casualty. if you take the disputed hamas casualty figure that even the ap has said is unreliable and multiply it by five for no specific reason, you would reach that outrageous number. but going back to what your previous guest said, it is important that aid reach people in gaza while making sure that hamas cannot steal it. unfortunately since the beginning of this war, unwra has been covering up how hamas has been covering up how hamas has been stealing aid right at the beginning of the war, even deleting a tweet in which they
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admitted that hamas had stolen fuel from their facilities. at any given moment, there are about 1000 trucks worth of aid sitting inside gaza on the gazan side of the crossing, rotting in the sun. because the un is not coming to collect it, even though israel is letting all that aid into gaza. that is why the israeli army has spent the last few months working together with the private sector in gaza to make sure that aid can get to the people who need it without having to go through the organisation that is allowing hamas terrorists to operate out of their schools, meaning that your taxpayer money, patrick, thatis your taxpayer money, patrick, that is going to unwra is going to build the facilities that hamas is using as military compounds. >> well, well, that's the point, chris, that i will come to you on now because i'm just i'm just i'm just gonna rattle off a few headlines. right. this is from a week ago in the telegraph. unrwa has 100 employees who are members of hamas. is an israeli government claim. the idf has found hamas drones , explosives, found hamas drones, explosives, etc. in an unrwa hq. there's
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more. i mean, there's loads of this actually, to be honest with you, apparently hamas skimmed $1 billion in un aid for weapons and tunnels that was supposed to be going to unrwa as well. i mean, why do you think it's a goodidea mean, why do you think it's a good idea for our government, our new government, to be giving money to these people ? money to these people? >> patrick, there's been an independent report. norway and the eu are convinced, and so is our government, that this is the best way to get aid into the country. look, ellen and i agree on something. there does need to be a way that aid gets to in gaza. if we can come up with a more effective way, i'll back it. but i can't see a more effective way than the 30,000 unwra staff that are available that are palestinian already. they're local people helping fellow local people, and they're tracking down those that had any links with hamas. >> okay, go on, ellen, come back to that. what would be the more effective way if getting aid into gaza really is the priority here, then what is the other way that we can do it without giving money to these people?
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>> there are many conflicts around the world and many un agencies that have experience in disaster relief. unrwa is not one of them, and that's because it's not an aid distribution agency. before october 7th, it was an organisation that provided welfare and health services to the palestinian people inside gaza because they were controlled by hamas. and hamas took the position that said, we don't want to have to care for these people's needs. we're taking our money and investing it in the tunnels underneath hospitals instead of building hospitals. its job was to run schools and hospitals. it's not an aid distribution agency, and that's why it's doing such a bad job distributing aid. and at any given point, a thousand trucks rotting in the sun. and why israel is having to work with the gazan private sector to get aid to the people who need it all the way. it's been allowing hamas to operate out of its facilities. just last week , you facilities. just last week, you mentioned correctly, israeli soldiers found a drone with a wingspan wider than my arms inside a un compound while its leaders are going around the world begging for more money. for generations of refugees, there's no other country in the
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world where there are generations of refugees. you just had this discussion now on your show about the boats coming to england. if someone is a refugee and they get citizenship in the uk, they're not considered a refugee anymore . considered a refugee anymore. only the palestinian agency unrwa keeps a different definition of refugee so they can continue this ponzi scheme of milking money from the british taxpayer in perpetuity to build military compounds. >> i'll let chris come back to that and then we'll wrap. >> he's an 8,080% of the population of gaza are refugees because they were moved there in 1948, and they weren't allowed to leave different definition than the un refugee agency under a definition that gives them they don't have status in perpetuity. >> all right. chris, chris, come on. >> so look, i just want to find the common ground here with ellen. if there is a more effective way of getting aid in at the scale that's needed. so many aid workers have been killed, either, you know, by, terribly aimed missiles or deliberate targeting that there is no other aid agency of scale
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that unwra can provide, and it seems to be the most effective way. >> all right, both of you, thank you very much. okay. i hope to see you both again soon. look, who do you agree with? was david lammy right to restore government funding to the un's aid agency in gaza, unrwa allison says he needs to be sacked, so i'll take that as a no . allison from you, todd onyx no. allison from you, todd onyx says it's just the latest in a long line of examples of why david lammy shouldn't be foreign secretary. i think, by the way, this is a massive concern. it is a massive concern because if we know that unrwa is linked to hamas, if right, and we are choosing to give them money, then we are deliberately, as a government now giving hamas money. obviously everyone involved with that would probably deny it. but melinek says the links to hamas was israel's propaganda and no conclusive evidence has been provided. write your verdict is in 4% of you think that david lammy was right to give more money to unrwa 96 6% of you. easy for me to say. say he wasn't coming up . joe biden's wasn't coming up. joe biden's come out swinging, refusing to stand down, but democrat
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heavyweights including ex—president obama are calling for him to go. is the doddery president totally tone deaf? meanwhile, trump's going from strength to strength . i am strength to strength. i am joined by donald trump's former deputy campaign chairman, rick gates. he's not going to hold back. but before that, the tory party is in disarray after mps failed to agree on a timetable to get a new leader. and reports tonight suggest that suella braverman could be on the verge of joining reform uk. is the party in freefall? straight talking tory mp mark francois. he joins me live and it's
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next. all right. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. we've got loads on tonight. joe biden is apparently not standing down. despite the fact that everyone thinks he should. and there were rumours that he would. but first, the tory leadership contest has been thrown into disarray , apparently after mps disarray, apparently after mps have failed to agree a timetable for the competition at a crunch meeting . supposedly, the party meeting. supposedly, the party is now reportedly split over whether or not to use the tory party conference in october to crown the winner, or to use it as a platform for candidates in some kind of beauty pageant. so the prospect of the contest dragging on for longer than expected has led to some mps suggesting that installing an interim leader might be a good way of replacing rishi sunak.
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well, you know, there are a few other rumours knocking about today as well, including the possibility of a suella braverman defection to reform. but i'm joined now by tory mp mark francois. mark, thank you very much. first things first, where are we up to in terms of picking a new tory leader? right. >> what happened was there was a meeting of tory mps on wednesday evening. it's well attended. so about two thirds of tory mps were there and we discussed, you know , how we might play the know, how we might play the leadership election. forgive me . leadership election. forgive me. i won't go into exactly who said what, but about a dozen mps spoke and amazingly enough, there was a consensus on what to do. okay and everybody, one way or another, said, don't rush , go or another, said, don't rush, go long, take your time . long, take your time. >> so nobody wanted to be rushed into it by any different leadership candidate . leadership candidate. >> and the consensus that emerged at the end was that we should use the party conference, if you like, as a sort of super
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hustings. it's a bit like what happenedin hustings. it's a bit like what happened in 2005 when, you know, cameron kind of came out of nowhere. so the idea was, was to use the conference in october to allow the voluntary party and everyone agreed they should have the final decision, not the mps. >> so this is members. >> so this is members. >> yeah, what we call the voluntary party. >> so councillors and activists , >> so councillors and activists, people who've, by the way, just slogged their guts out for six weeks to get the 121 of us re—elected. we owe it to them . re—elected. we owe it to them. so they go to the conference, they see these different candidates in action. we then come back in october. we as mps, then knock it down to two, which is what it says in our rules. and then the two finalists go to the voluntary party in a postal ballot. and there was there was pretty much unanimity about that. >> okay. so great, great insight. you know, info there in the sense that it looks as though that's what will definitely happen. so good. >> well then, sorry just to be
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complete. there was then a meeting of the party board right yesterday on which we have three mps and the party board didn't necessarily agree with what the mps wanted to do. >> so we're going to have a no. i'm just trying to tell you where we are. so the idea is, is there's going to be another meeting of the 1922 committee of the mps next week , where we will the mps next week, where we will revisit this . and whatever comes revisit this. and whatever comes out of that, i think the party board would be well advised to listen to. okay so that's the situation. >> all right. so there's still a little bit of chaos, but at least the mps themselves, most of them seem to know what they want to do. fine. okay suella braverman is she staying. is she going? there's strong rumours that she's going to be joining reform. it's been reported in the i newspaper as well as elsewhere tonight. >> well, look, i had a meeting with suella earlier this week. >> she. she never gave me any hint of that or any indication at all. >> so i'm not a mind reader, but i would be surprised if she were
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to do that. i mean, i think like many of us, she's very disappointed about what's happened. she's very disappointed about how poor the campaign was. >> do you not think to be fair, do you not think she's actually quite disappointed with how poorly she's been treated since as well? i mean, a lot of people are slagging her off from within her own party, you know, treating her as though she's this big, toxic individual. whereas actually, another way of looking at it is that actually, maybe suella views on things were more popular than what the party ended up doing at the last election. >> well, i think a lot of us are frustrated by the campaign. the launch , d—day betting gate. you launch, d—day betting gate. you know, it wasn't easy when you're out slogging your guts out. and again , i just make the point again, i just make the point with our voluntary party out there doing it with us, you know, then to come home at the end of the day, you know, you've been out leafleting or door knocking. you get home, you throw some food in the microwave , throw some food in the microwave, you sit down in front of the 10:00 news and there it all is. right. so we were not well led in that campaign. let's be
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honest about it. >> so a lot of people are very bruised about that . bruised about that. >> and so a lot of people are very frustrated about how bad the campaign was. but that doesn't mean you defect to another party. look, i've been slagged off in the tory party by some people for years. it doesn't mean i'm going to defect. >> no, fine. i do wonder, though, in terms of actual policy and this is the thing. so, you know, she's very, very strong when it comes to migration, illegal immigration, stopping the boats, leaving the echr, that kind of stuff. if the tory party doesn't go in that direction, then surely she's going to be more aligned with nigel farage. >> well , look, nigel farage. >> well, look, some of us thought the rwanda bill wasn't tough enough. you know what happenedin tough enough. you know what happened in the end, we'll never know. now because other than one flight taking off with that person that volunteered to go in return for some thousands of pounds, the bill was never put to the test. and now labour have junked it. still yet to hear how
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labour are going to crack this problem. and this i can tell you if they don't, people will get angner if they don't, people will get angrier and angrier that i'm sure about. >> i mean, what do you not have more in common with nigel farage than tom tugendhat? >> i'm a conservative. >> i'm a conservative. >> nigel's not a member of the conservative party. tom and i come from two different traditions in the party when it comes to defence, you can barely put a fag paper between us. so, nigel is not a member of the conservative party. his candidates were out there trying to knock us out, you know, they weren't there to put their arms around us. they were there to defeat us. and because of what they did , there are a lot of they did, there are a lot of tory mps who didn't make it back. so i don't see why we should throw our arms around nigel and thank him for trying to wipe us out. >> okay. all right. and i can't remember if i've asked you this before. i'll ask it again. is there any chance that you might run to be the next leader? >> you're very kind. we shouldn't talk about political betting, should we? >> probably. well, you probably shouldn't, but no, but i if i were you, i'd.
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>> patrick. if i were you, i'd place your last tenner on someone else. but thanks for asking. >> all right. good stuff . i've >> all right. good stuff. i've just about got time for another topic, because when keir starmer first came into downing street. he was not actually particularly popular. i get, you know, massive majority and all of that in the personal popularity stakes. not particularly popular. but apparently now he is as popular as boris johnson was at the height of the vaccine rollout. that's according to a new poll, found a whopping 36% of the public so far think he's doing a good job as leader. of the public so far think he's doing a good job as leader . what doing a good job as leader. what is he? has he had a strong start? >> look, they're having a honeymoon. >> let's be honest. they won the election when the majority of 172. we as a party need to reflect on that. we need to learn lessons from what happened, which is why many of the mps think we shouldn't rush. you know, we need to take on board what's happened. they're in a honeymoon. it's not unusual for a new prime minister to be popular. let's see what happens by the time they get to mid
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term. he. you know, he gave a good speech, i thought. and the debate on the loyal address, you know following the king's speech. fair play. he said some nice things about sir david amess. you know i was very close to. so fair play for that. and about jo cox, by the way, but he did say one thing. i want to highlight. he said under labour there'll be no more gimmicks. i think that might come back to haunt him. patrick. >> yeah, i agree , thank you very >> yeah, i agree, thank you very much. great to have you on the show as ever. that is mark francois there. coming up, the police have finally wrestled back control of the streets in leeds, supposedly after violent rioting sparked mayhem last night . but were the emergency night. but were the emergency services too scared to act and why are some people so keen to riot? i'm going to tackle that very soon. but first, joe biden. apparently he's not going down without a fight, or at least his wife's not vowing tonight to fight on. meanwhile, trump's basking in admiration at the
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republican . convention. all republican. convention. all right. next, i have got donald deputy campaign chairman, rick gates. stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news now. coming up were the emergency services too scared to act during last night's riots in leeds? but first, joe biden. he's come out swinging today vowing to stay in the race for re—election. he's confirmed that he'll be back on the campaign trail next week. well, that's despite a whole host of democrat heavyweights, apparently including barack obama, lining up to urge biden to just drop out . meanwhile, trump received a out. meanwhile, trump received a rapturous welcome at the republican convention in milwaukee . milwaukee. >> i am running to be president for all of america , not half of
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for all of america, not half of america, because there is no victory in winning for half of america . so tonight, with faith america. so tonight, with faith and devotion, i proudly accept your nomination for president of the united states. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, i'm very pleased to be joined. now by donald trump's former deputy campaign chairman, rick gates . rick, great to have rick gates. rick, great to have you on the show. thank you very, very much. first and foremost, though, joe biden , he's not though, joe biden, he's not going to stand there. he is going to stand there. he is going to stand there. he is going to stand. i mean , how on going to stand. i mean, how on earth can he run a campaign if even people like barack obama are saying to him, look, just give up? >> well, yeah, the writings on the wall. >> it's not if it's when there's a couple of different paths that this can play out. and that's what everybody's kind of waiting to see. nancy pelosi has injected herself in this, and she can be a serious contender. and she can actually create a lot of pain for joe and she can actually create a lot of pain forjoe biden. and lot of pain for joe biden. and embarrassment, depending on how he decides to exit. but i don't
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think there's any question about whether he exit. it's just a matter of when. most of the talk today is that he'll probably do it sometime over the weekend. sunday monday, in a speech, maybe through the oval office, depending on how he is able to communicate that speech and whether he'll be able to do that or not. >> well, i'll move on to trump in a second, but i mean, in the meantime, what is joe biden's wife playing at? honestly i'm sorry, but nobody who loves somebody would say, go on, keep going. i mean, what's going on there? do you think? >> yeah, we call it elder abuse in the united states, it and that's exactly how it's playing out. look, they've been in power for a very, very long time. i think part of it is it's hard to let go of that power. but i also think there are some scores to settle. there is talk that joe biden will exit, but he will not endorse kamala harris. and that is partly directly because of the poor relationship between joe biden and kamala harris. >> i find it absolutely bonkers. i was watching people who seemed, by the way, like quite ordinary americans being interviewed, just members of the pubuc interviewed, just members of the public on the street and they
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were being asked, well, you know, would you vote for biden? and they said, well, i'm quite happy with the job that the deep state is doing at the moment. just running the country. and i think, goodness gracious me. i wonder if we manage to come to this, but let's talk about trump . this, but let's talk about trump. i mean, you know, the guy survived an assassination attempt. he's looking stronger than ever. he's looking like an inevitability to get back into the white house now, what do you make of it? do you think it's definitely going to be president trump? take two? >> yeah, i think if the election were held at this moment, he would absolutely win in a landslide. and i think that as we watch the convention play out, look, he had a great night. and the republican party looked united. they looked unified in the face of the democrats being in a constant argument and a perilous position. so i think as we watch donald trump campaign over the next couple of months, if he's able to focus on those key issues that he raised at the convention, if he's also able to inject a little unity in it, and then also to try to bring in people that are not traditional republicans. so more demographics, the youth , blacks, demographics, the youth, blacks, latinos, then he's going to do
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extremely well . extremely well. >> yeah. and again, i just want to emphasise something that you mentioned earlier on there, which is there are rumours that joe biden is if he is going to step down, it could happen sunday or monday. so do you keep it gb news for that? because we will keep you right up to date on it. an issue for president trump could well be, though, who we've got in charge here in this country at the moment. and we have a foreign secretary who has previously said that trump is a kkk sympathising misogynist and amongst other things as well. and the labour party is not really historically been particularly closely aligned to president trump, is that a problem for us here in britain? because at the moment, joe biden is a problem for us. we don't need any other issues. >> well, look, i think at the end of the day, president trump keeps records of who says, what about him. so i think if that is the case that your foreign secretary is making those sort of comments, i think you can bet that it's going to be a difficult relationship. but also, trump is very much, recognises the importance of britain as an ally. certainly as long as they pay their fair
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share of, you know, money into nato . nato. >> well, yeah, indeed. no, that is something that obviously we are going to have to keep a very, very close eye on. and trump's family have been out in force as well. you made the point there that they do look united. point there that they do look unhed.cani point there that they do look united. can i just ask if biden goes, is it going to be kamala harris? could it be michelle obama? who are you hearing, >> it's definitely not going to be michelle obama. she's got a great life. she's not going to take herself out of it. look, again, there's basically two ways this plays out. if biden endorses harris, then there's no question she'll be the nominee. if he does not, then it'll open it up. there are several governors, from pennsylvania, new jersey, illinois, that would very much like to take a stand, gavin newsom from california might be another. but if biden doesn't support harris, that's going to show a lack of support. and that will open the floodgates. i think it will be a it will be a blood sport at that point. yeah >> how does this play out, though? i mean, the easy way out for biden is that a find a willing doctor to suddenly, out of nowhere, diagnose him with
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something that means he can't be in power for , for, for a few in power for, for, for a few more years? that's the way out, isn't it ? isn't it? >> yeah. first it was god. if god tells me, i'll jump out. but now it's. if a doctor tells me, i'll jump out. so i think that's where they will probably go with it. but look, they don't need that necessarily. joe biden could simply just step aside saying he has health issues, doesn't have to express what they are and then he can voluntarily do it, which will save the democrats a lot of pain and time, which they, you know, desperately need. >> well, look, thank you very much. great to chat to you. i hope to talk to you again very, very soon. that's rick gates there. he's a former deputy campaign chairman for trump. now coming up, police have finally taken back control of the streets in leeds after violent rioters ran them out of the . rioters ran them out of the. city. yeah, look, this is a massive story. it's a huge story because why were the emergency services, both the police and the fire service, too scared to act? i think it sets an
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>> 8:10 pm. on patrick christys tonight. >> well, this is going. amy. chelsea. say reform. >> look, look, look. the police are looking. glass nick gibb running. >> why did the police and the
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fire service run? scared and. run oh, what does it say about britain? that people are ready to riot at a moment's notice? also tonight . chaos worldwide also tonight. chaos worldwide internet failure. but what really happened? and . really happened? and. i'm sorry, but why on earth did keir starmer let zelenskyy into cabinet? plus go go go go go . cabinet? plus go go go go go. brits could be criminalised for hogging sunbeds abroad. on my panel tonight is bbc and itv chief john sergeant, political
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commentator suzanne evans and novara media's michael walker. oh yes. and can you tell me what happens next here please? >> what a display of sprinting from the young britain . from the young britain. >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. i predict a riot . i predict a riot. next. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 10:00. your headlines. the boss of cyber security firm crowdstrike, which is responsible for worldwide it outages, admits it could be some time before all systems are back up and running. more than 5000 flights at many of the world's airports have been grounded since early this morning, with airlines unable to complete
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check ins. banks supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among those who were knocked off line. those travelling by rail were also affected, with transpennine express , thameslink transpennine express, thameslink and southern among those who've reported disruption. crowdstrike ceo says it's not related to a security incident or a cyber attack. in other news, the home secretary has branded violent disorder that broke out on the streets of leeds as audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested after trouble flared in the harehills area last night, with vehicles set ablaze and a police car overturned . it's understood the overturned. it's understood the riots were linked to local children being taken into care, with fears tensions could boil over again tonight. yvette cooper says those responsible for violent disorder in leeds should feel the full force of the law. >> i've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action. they are now
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taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident, but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets and also that the perpetrators feel the full force of the law . of the law. >> the government has resumed funding for the palestinian refugee agency, which is run by the united nations. funding was halted by the former conservative government after israel accused some of the agency staff of being involved in the attacks on the 7th of october. foreign secretary david lammy says the agency now meets the highest standards of neutrality, and confirmed britain will resume fresh funding worth around £21 million. it comes as the un's top court has said israel's occupation of palestinian territories is against international law . president joe
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international law. president joe biden has accused donald trump of presenting a dark version to the us in his republican national convention speech. the us president also said he looked forward to returning to the campaign trail next week, and winning at the ballot box in november. it comes as seven more fellow democrats urged him to end his campaign, fearing that it could cost nearly the november 5th election. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> what on earth were our police force and fire brigade playing out yesterday? they caved in to the mob. it started kicking off in leeds .
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the mob. it started kicking off in leeds. road. oh and people were asking, look, where are the police? well, i regret to inform you.the police? well, i regret to inform you. the police bottled it. >> amy. chelsea, say reform. >> amy. chelsea, say reform. >> oh, look, look, look. the police are just chucking glass . police are just chucking glass. look at them running closer. >> get closer . they run look at them running closer. >> get closer. they run in. >> get closer. they run in. >> they get closer. >> they get closer. >> get closer, closer, closer . >> get closer, closer, closer. >> yeah. and as people started setting things on fire, i like broccoli. >> i don't . >> i don't. >> i don't. >> the fire brigade also bottled it. they released a statement saying during the course of the evening, two fires were ignited . evening, two fires were ignited. after evaluating the situation and considering the potential danger to our fire crews, it was determined that it was not safe to put out the fires. we are grateful for the efforts of local community leaders who
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intervened, enabling to us safely extinguish the fires just after midnight. we want to assure the public that we were ready to respond promptly if lives or homes were in danger. okay, so they were scared. it's a good job the west yorkshire fire and rescue weren't having to deal with 9/11. isn't it pathetic? our new home secretary, yvette cooper, actually went to leeds today. here she is. >> well, i've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident. but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets, and also that the perpetrators feel the full force of the law . of the law. >> i mean, forgive me, but it was that community that was kicking the backside out of their own area, wasn't it? but
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there is the other elephant in there is the other elephant in the room. when you see clips like this. you do wonder what has become of our wonderful, harmonious , our wonderful, harmonious, diverse society. well, let's be honest . thousands of people honest. thousands of people there in an incredibly multicultural area had absolutely no reservations at all about kicking the living daylights out of the place. they live. do you not think that says quite a lot about modern britain? let's get the thoughts of my panel tonight . it is the of my panel tonight. it is the former bbc and itv chief political correspondent, john sergeant. i also have a political consultant, suzanne evans, and i have journalist reports that michael walker. and john, what do you think this says about? let me start with
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the fire brigade in the police service, actually, because i thought i was absolutely remarkable that they did precious little yesterday. >> yeah, i think they were caught by surprise and they probably were frightened. they probably were frightened. they probably were frightened. they probably were very worried about the riot getting completely out of control or covering the whole city. so i can imagine that when it happened , they must have it happened, they must have thought, why couldn't we have been warned that this incident was likely to take place? if you think about it, just think about any part of the country . if any part of the country. if you're told that the that the family next door have been forced to give up four of their children, you're not going to say, oh, that's fine, i do. i'll see them out. i mean, it's going to cause trouble and difficulty and i'm amazed that we've not well, i'm, i'm not amazed because we've not heard anyone say how how good it was for those social workers. they should have been there. i will just i will just i'll just. >> yeah. i'm just going to say, well, yeah. and i am also just going to say as it currently stands, there's been no cast iron confirmation as to the exact reason behind why, you know, social services or
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whatever, but why aren't we being told this? >> i mean, the point is, it strikes me as if there's a strong argument to say that's what they were doing. >> yeah, i think i think i should i should have warned people about it. all right. look. yeah, fine. but i'm sorry, but suzanne, i don't care what has happened. there's no excuse for doing that. yeah, absolutely. >> there's been a lot of whataboutery today, you know, people have been criticising what people have said on social media and yes, people have clearly got it wrong. and, you know, i think there's one rule in life is you don't comment on something unless you know what's actually going on, but except on gb news, this i feel like you're about to do that, aren't you? >> no . >> no. >> no. >> absolutely not. no, not at all. no, no. >> what i do know. >> what i do know. >> look, what we do know is happening is just. just to get get right back onto this. now, what we do know is happening. that was absolutely massive, large scale civil disobedience and criminal damage. large scale civil disobedience and criminal damage . and that's wrong. >> that must be wrong. >> that must be wrong. >> right. and also the fact that for hours and hours and hours there was little to no police action. and the fire brigade didn't fancy it. i'm sorry, but as an ordinary member of society and people who, you know are not out there rioting, i expect
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something to be done about that. and you don't. >> you can't give warning about incidents like this, john, with the best will in the world. you know, the police had warning of every crime they'd stop the crime before it happened. the whole point of having an emergency response is that it's an emergency response. and quite clearly in this incident, they failed. i totally accept that. there comes a point where you can't put firefighters, police force, people in danger. you can't. you might very well have to pull them out and they might have increased the riot. they might have, might well have done.i might have, might well have done. i covered northern ireland for seven years on and off, and i know what happened there. >> and but my goodness me, these things could suddenly one thing becomes another thing becomes another thing. >> and but ultimately, the job of the police and the fire bngadeis of the police and the fire brigade is to protect the community. and by any measure, they failed. last night, michael, was it on a little bit? >> what does it say, do you think about modern britain that people seem so ready to riot? >> well, i suppose you've got a lot of people who are disillusioned. >> but i would also say, you know, you say, what does it say about modern britain? i mean, people have always rioted, you know, it's not as if there's this sort of unprecedented explosion of riots across the country. it's actually a fairly rare phenomenon. rare phenomenon. >> rare phenomenon. >> but i think the concern that
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i might have, and maybe quite a few people would have, i don't know, is all right. it kicked off pretty quickly and in a massive way. and obviously social media now, which doesn't help at all. and things. but but to me that that indicators to me indicated that people were very unhappy generally and also didn't really seem to have that much respect for where they actually lived. >> well, except, i mean , >> well, except, i mean, obviously this kind of rioting is absolutely, you know, abhorrent. i mean, i think it is worth sort of really highlighting what was at the end of that fire brigade statement because they said if any people's lives were at risk or homes were at risk , we would homes were at risk, we would have intervened. and i do think we are obviously it's terrible to set a bus on fire or a throw over a police car, but this kind of thing is historically, you know , not that unusual. i don't know, not that unusual. i don't think we need to get carried away about society as breaking down. i'm not excusing it. that's a ridiculous thing to say for the for the little old lady who's sitting in her house there, maybe lived there for getting terrified by you about society collapsing when this is a very rare occasion. oh my god ,
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a very rare occasion. oh my god, come on, you look at that. >> getting terrified by me. where there's a bus on fire. >> obviously, if you live in hale, if you live in harehills, that might be the case. >> but if you live in peaceful, if you live if you live in harehills, then i'm not sure if they're going to be particularly persuaded by your argument enhen >> i'm just saying the bus driver there, who was literally surrounded by a mob and had to get out, and that's how they came to set his bus on fire. >> thank god he wasn't. >> thank god he wasn't. >> but what i'm saying is this this isn't a symbol of society breaking down, is what i'm saying. so obviously that riot and being there would be absolutely terrifying . but we're absolutely terrifying. but we're not sort of at the precipice of just a social explosion where this is going to be happening everywhere. >> well, is it a already broken down? >> why don't we just look at another town where that didn't happen? >> what's happening? you know, once again, i was really shocked. one of the things that really shocked me post this incident was a statement that was put out by leeds city council. let me just read you a little bit of it. if i may, they they clearly have recognised in this statement that the romanian and the roma community, the traveller community, were involved here. it's in their statement they work with their kids who were being taken away. they played a fantastic role in
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the community and have contributed much to the diversity and richness of the harehills. no, i don't think so. thatis harehills. no, i don't think so. that is not diversity in its positive sense. that is not richness, that is criminality, pure and simple. and the fact is we have an equality act in this country, which allows these traveller communities to have protected status, and yet they are responsible for huge domestic violence. i think women experienced domestic violence. 25% of women in the general community traveller community, it's 81. and yet here we have . it's 81. and yet here we have. >> all right. >> all right. >> we're gonna i'm gonna. yeah, i'm just going to intervene at this point because we are waiting for clarification on a variety of different things. i will just say this again on the exact nature of what what we think is going on here sometimes social media. well, i'm going on what the city council is saying, but also, haven't leeds city council got to be very careful what they say. >> i mean, if you say i know who's responsible , it's the who's responsible, it's the romani community and let's turn against them . you've got to be against them. you've got to be very careful about that. >> they don't have to say is
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actually, you know, the roma community. well, it's worth have played a fantastic role and they do lots of good because clearly in this instance. >> but you don't you've got to think about the reasoning of why a statement like that gets put out, because no one looks at images of riots and say, oh, this is great. you know, this is the best. this is this is diversity at its best. but what they no, no, just let me let me just say this quickly and i will and i will come immediately back to you about clearly thousands of people did thousands of people did look at images of those riots and they went and they joined in not thousands, but it wasn't thousands of people. it wasn't very poor. i mean, that happens. that's happened after football matches. you know, people see something aggie going on and they're like, oh, maybe this is an exciting thing. i can get involved in. i want to speak to this point though, because why do leeds council think they have to say that leeds council are obviously not looking at this and saying, oh, this is diversity at its best. what leeds council are thinking is there is an isolated incident. yes, a bunch of people got involved, but it's fairly rare incident and they know that there are people who are going to try and whip up hate and take this isolated incident and say, this isolated incident and say, this shows why the romani community are wrong and they're saying, no, this doesn't show
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anything really about the romani community at all, because this is a very isolated incident. >> i will just say, i don't think this represents diverse, multicultural britain. >> it's appalling. >> it's appalling. >> it's appalling. >> i don't think it really represents diverse, multicultural, the risks involved in these areas and how things can quickly go wrong and what should be done about it . what should be done about it. >> but it also means that everyone involved has got to be very careful and be aware of the danger of this . you can't danger of this. you can't suddenly have all this happening with people saying, oh, how very odd, this doesn't happen normally. people there should have known on the ground and they should have been inquiring. >> and suzanne, you know, where are you just to return to the other point to there. so we've had the kind of societal issue. but, you know, the message that for me is sent out with the fire bngade for me is sent out with the fire brigade not going yesterday saying, oh, yeah, okay. we didn't want to necessarily put ourselves in danger. we didn't think there was a threat to life. look, i'm sorry, i don't know what kind of message that sends out. i mean, the one i think it sends out is you can kick the backside out somewhere, and then when you go to bed, they might mop up after you. >> it does. and once again, i'm afraid we are seeing communities failed and we've seen that multiculturalism isn't culturalism in the society has failed. this idea that you can
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come to britain and basically continue your life exactly as you would if you were still in your country of origin. it's a complete failure as a philosophy. it's happened again here, i think quite clearly. >> what country of origin do people get away with burning down buses? it doesn't seem to me that this is something we've imported. we've always had sort of occasional riots in the country . country. >> when you have people with a massively different cultures put into ghettos in a particular way. which is arguably happened here. how would you explain sort of violence after football matches in the 1980s? >> was that multiculturalism? i just, you know, you have little explosions of violence in all different societies, in all places. >> this it means that doesn't fit. >> well. you just can't say because some people here are not british. this is a problem of non—british people. well, actually lots of probably were british, but not 1980s, which was appalling and everybody condemned it. >> we've now got umpteen other problems as well because of uncontrolled immigration and this policy that people should be allowed to practice their. so we have no one was practising that culture here. >> i think, i think you made that point, but it was interesting. >> is that of the people who
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were interviewed or the local people there saying we're the ones who suffer this, we're the ones who suffer this, we're the ones who suffer this, we're the ones who will have to pay for this. >> we're the ones. so it's not as if the whole community thinks, isn't it great to have a riot? they don't. the people who interviewed took exactly the different points. >> you also saw. actually, can i just came out and said, actually, this community is wonderful. >> you needn't worry. >> you needn't worry. >> it's oh well that's silly, you needn't worry. no, you've certainly got a worry. >> well i don't think they, they said that either, by the way. they didn't say. it's also really worth pointing out. so in terms of multiculturalism and immigration. so there was one man moeen ali let's talk about moeen ali. so he is a green councillor. when he was first elected, sort of, he was all over the newspapers because he dared to say allahu akbar after being, you know, elected, maybe not the wisest thing to do, but i mean, he's saying god is great. people were sort of when these riots broke out saying, oh, this council is getting involved. you know, tommy robinson was sharing it. a conservative mp this morning shared it and said, this guy is terrible. it turned out that he was one of the brave people in the community trying to physically stopping, you know, the very young men from putting bins in the fire. >> yeah, but yeah, but but my point is this why was he having
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to do that? where were the police? where were where was the fire brigade? you know , to take fire brigade? you know, to take that to a natural conclusion. he could have come to some serious harm. yeah, yeah, yeah. no, i absolutely think that's a good point. and we do pay a lot in tax for. and i think there is a bafic tax for. and i think there is a basic expectation, i would expect that if there was some kind of riot on my street, i would see a strong police and fire brigade present. >> i think john's point is john's point is correct, though, which is that if the police go in in a sense which is completely unprepared, if they're outnumbered, if they're just not in a position where they can calm the situation down, then they can make it worse. because if you just got ten cops, sort of playing hero and saying, we're going to stop all of this, then what's going to happen? it's going to be fight. >> that's not what they do. they're careful. they know to what do. they work out what the advantages of going in or staying out. and in terms of was anyone killed? that's the key point of this particular riot. >> nobody was killed. >> nobody was killed. >> one thing i will say, and just just to draw a line under this and i know that the co2 situation is very different, but for me that i'm still very scarred in a reporting sense,
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from the manchester arena bombing, where the there was a big rush initially for the emergency services to get there and then they didn't go in. >> that was appalling. >> that was appalling. >> now they were they were worried about a secondary device there. but actually, as the inquiry found out, a lot more people's lives have been saved. if people had gone in. and i just wonder when you're confronted with situations like this, big flare ups there isn't one rule for this. >> there's not sort of because of one because of what happened to manchester arena bombing. you can't do this. >> no multiculturalism issue because police are frightened to go in because they're seen to be racist. and as i said, the traveller community has protection under the equality act. the police have got to be ultra careful and that, again is wrong. it needs tying up and scrapping. >> all right guys, good stuff. another strong start to an hour. thank you very much. coming up, ukraine's president zelenskyy was a surprise addition to today's cabinet meeting. but he left empty handed after starmer rebuffed his request to fire missiles deep into russia. but should he have even been in that cabinet room in the first place? and what's going on here? >> what a display of sprinting from the young britain , all of from the young britain, all of that and more. >> when my press pack join me
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soon. but first, a catastrophic tech meltdown has caused chaos across the uk, around the world actually today. and we're joined by a tech expert who will explain what on earth went wrong. and that's next. oh, so
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on. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, a catastrophic it failure has caused total mayhem
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across the uk. and indeed, the world today, the cyber security firm crowdstrike says that a defect in one of its software updates hit windows operating systems. and that resulted in brits queuing up outside airports on the busiest day of the year . airports on the busiest day of the year. some tv channels, crucially, not us being taken off air. kids sent home from school, gp surgeries unable to access patient's records. although, to be fair, there's no change there is there or booking gp appointments. again, people probably didn't notice the difference, although the underlying cause of the problem has now been fixed. the impact is still being felt tonight. joining me now is technology expert and journalist mark saltzman. mark, great to have you on the show. thank you very, very much. how on earth has this been allowed to happen and who needs to be sacked? >> well, i guess the joke in nonh >> well, i guess the joke in north america here is that president joe biden tripped over a power cable and he unplugged the computer. okay but i'm bummed, yeah. all kidding aside, to not minimise how big of a blunder this was. yeah, so crowdstrike is an austin , texas
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crowdstrike is an austin, texas based powerhouse. they are one of the biggest cybersecurity companies on the planet that service businesses and governments worldwide. about half of all fortune 500 companies rely on this cloud software. it's a platform in which companies and agencies do business on and so this was a for the lack for all intents and purposes, it was a routine update, a patch, a software update, a patch, a software update that is ironically meant to protect the network and the cloud infrastructure from malware , malicious software and malware, malicious software and other threats in cyberspace. but there was a glitch. and when it was updating, it kept rebooting. and it resulted in that this just shows how vulnerable we are, right? >> because because, you know, people lost holidays, people couldn't get health appointments. i mean, you know, good grief. the world will not survive. the fact that sky news was off air for a little bit earlier on, you know. yeah. but but this is the point. it just shows how vulnerable we actually are to something like this, doesn't it? you know, the whole
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world can shut down 100. >> it does underscore how reliant we are on technology that it's often just automated. everybody's running on this and clearly there are not enough safeguards in place to mitigate this kind of thing. i mean , this this kind of thing. i mean, this was the biggest we've seen in years or even decades to, you know, this scale. but yeah, it just shows how vulnerable we are. also, you think about things like cyber warfare, right? you know, there are some nefarious nations out there paying nefarious nations out there paying close attention to these vulnerabilities and knowing that this is a tool in their arsenal, should they should they want to exploit that. and clearly it's easy ish to do it. so yeah, there's got to be disgraced actually. >> sorry just to say it is an absolute disgrace. we often think, you know, that there's this one. there probably is. you know, this web of incredibly sophisticated russian hackers and chinese hackers, actually, they just needed to do a dodgy update on a system based somewhere around. i don't know, sutton in ashfield or wherever it is. and that's it. the world's gone. >> yeah, that's a very
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simplified way of putting it. but yeah, there is an infrastructure there. but again you should have what's called in the tech world redundancies where there are other servers which is, you know, groups of computers that are all, all keeping this cloud software and service up, up and running. and we should not know any of these changes on in the background, not to mention ai , artificial not to mention ai, artificial intelligence should also help to minimise these things. it should predict that, hey, there's going to be a software update on july 19th and that there should be some, you know, measures, right, that that should mitigate this. but clearly there was a huge fail. some heads are going to roll. and yeah, it's really unfortunate. all kidding aside, with my jokes that, you know, all the tens if not hundreds of thousands of passengers who were stranded. and the domino effect, right . still in the us, i can right. still in the us, i can tell you that there are still lots of people trying to get on their flights and go on their vacations, their holidays. yeah, it's absolutely shocking. >> it is really shocking, actually. and it's also another reason why people should bear in mind that you should always actually carry a bit of cash on
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you, because if everything's digital and everything goes down, then you can't really function that well as a society. but mark, can i just say a massive thank you for beaming in live from toronto there for us, it's marc saltzman, tech expert journalist. i will also just be very honest with everybody at home now who's watching and listening this. we were also going to have a case study of somebody whose life had been badly affected. this is not a joke. now by this particular tech outage today, but it turns out that their wi—fi has just gone down again. so they can't come on, who could have predicted that? everybody who could have predicted it? but coming up, residents in a sleepy leicester village are up in arms about a sex festival that's landed on their doorsteps . but landed on their doorsteps. but are we just a bit too prudish? and how much a ticket anyway? and how much a ticket anyway? and jill biden's had to intervene again . so i'll show intervene again. so i'll show you what happened next, and i'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages with my top so when we come back,
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and it's time now to show you some of tomorrow's front pages. right. we start with the i, computer says no global. it crash hits gp's hospitals , banks, planes and hospitals, banks, planes and trains, loads of flights . trains, loads of flights. council, we all know about all of this. now let's go to the daily mail. yeah. there we go. same old global. it meltdown shows peril of going cashless. yes, i made that point earlier on. anyway royal shock trump shooter downloaded photos of kate. that's a rage on the front pageisnt kate. that's a rage on the front page isn't it. that's just just right. how do we get kate on the front page? what do we do? what do we do? right? the daily star nerd in us pushes wrong button and global meltdown hits nhs flights, trains. computer says no . they've also decided to no. they've also decided to include a picture of the little britain character. of computer says no. so there we are. let's
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go to the times it companies error could be terminal for getaways. tech failure hits airports, hospitals and gps. so it is literally the same front page everywhere you look. but no, there's a bit more because in the sidebar of the times and it's the story we're going to be focusing in on now, this is big. everybody, teachers and nurses should get a 5.5% pay rise, ministers told. so an independent review has recommended an above inflation salary boost far higher than 3, for which the government has budgeted millions of public sector workers, including teachers and nurses, should be given this above inflation pay rise. this is according to this independent review. the problem is that they reckon it's going to cost us £3.5 billion, and it's a problem , obviously, for it's a problem, obviously, for rachel reeves, the times has been told that the independent pay been told that the independent pay review bodies representing just over half a million teachers and 1.3 million nhs workers, have all been recommended. that 5.5% pay rise.
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suzanne, i'll start with you on this problem for our new chancellor. >> yeah, a massive problem because of course, labour will want to support the nhs. they'll want to support the nhs. they'll want to support teachers. but the fact is the country can't afford this. so the office for national statistics produced the latest debt and borrowing figures. this morning. and we are. national debt is now running at 99.5% of gdp. so basically whatever the country makes, nearly 100% of that is also owed in debt. borrowing is costing us nearly £50 billion a yean costing us nearly £50 billion a year, and we're paying interest every month on government debt of 7.4 billion. right. the country is broke. labour can't afford the spending pledges. they've already got. they can't afford this either. >> michael, i'll come to you on this because, before we've seen governments do this before where they can hide behind an independent review, it's quite easy, you know, you can hide behind it. well, actually, it says that they should only get 2.5% says that they should only get 25% pay rise. well, well, that literally doesn't exist anymore now. and you've got the added complication as well of the fact
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that labour is really supposed to stand up more for these groups of people. so how do we afford this? what do labour do? >> i think they've got to give them this increase. i mean, the conservatives last year and the year before were giving them lower than they were asking for and saying, well, it's an independent process. we can't possibly intervene. so now that they've offered you know, a higher amount, which is just in line with private sector pay, by the way, this isn't outrageous. the reason they've said 5.5% is because that's the direction of private sector pay at the moment. and you've got to make these things competitive, yeah, i think they've got to offer it. and i think it's been clear actually, throughout the election that labour would have to find some money anywhere anyway because their plans had sort of implied austerity and a bunch of different departments. so i imagine what we'll see and what i hope we'll see is that come the budget in autumn, rachel reeves will open up the books and say, we do have to increase taxes on, well, this is it. >> the wealthy in certain areas. so, so hopefully on. well, this is the thing, isn't it. >> it won't be taxes on the wealthy because the wealthy can afford avoid paying tax. they're going to leave the country. well, not if you do well because their houses can't leave the country can they? >> you know. how do you do that,
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then? what do you mean? >> their houses can't leave the country. they're selling a lot of wealthy people own them through companies anyway. >> if someone owns it, someone who owns a second home, you sort of increase capital gains on that. why? >> why should you increase her capital gains? well, i mean, one policy which lots of people in sort of the ngo sector want is you say how many they can have it. >> so the point is what lots of people want to do and i think this is sensible, is increased capital gains. so it's the same as income tax because at the moment. why is that ridiculous? because at the moment if you work for a living, you get taxed 40. if you invest for a living, or if you just make your money into more money by buying houses and hoping they appreciate in value, you pay about 20. so if you if you say wealth shouldn't, shouldn't get you more money than work, >> so let's put capital gains up to income tax then. so that should mean there's a capital gains tax exemption the same as the threshold for income taxes. let me bring as opposed to the ridiculous £3,000 it is. >> let me bring john in here because the other aspect of this is if labour don't do this, this is if labour don't do this, this is strike armageddon, isn't it. >> yeah. no, i think i think they will agree to this. and i think it's interesting that they've leaked the teachers and nurses, first of all, because
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they're meant to be people meant to be most sympathetic to them, whereas some of the others in the list, you know, the armed forces don't normally get a look in the police civil servants, people won't be excited by that. dentists, people say, well, there aren't any dentists. so they've obviously said, we're going to get through all this. and the answer often in politics is to phase it, do this at the beginning and then consider whether there's going to be an autumn statement or, to some extent, a budget in the autumn, and to what extent you then will start revealing where does it work out with the books? but they've got to do this. you can't stop everything and just say, we've got no money. >> this is for me. is it that way? this for me is a bigger story than the tech stuff. i know that's on every single front page, but actually there's a big story. this this is a much bigger story because labour have got a real problem here. conceivably the taxpayer has got a real problem here as well. we'll have to wait and see what happens. now moving it on. residents in a quiet lincolnshire village have reacted with disgust to a sex festival being hosted right in their backyard . the four day their backyard. the four day event, dubbed swing a thon, began yesterday and has brought around 1000 sex mad attendees to
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around 1000 sex mad attendees to a sleepy village . the chorus, as a sleepy village. the chorus, as it's been described of screaming and moaning from the event, sparked complaints last year. but despite the residents best efforts, the event was allowed to return to the town again this yeah to return to the town again this year. but his own nation just becoming too prudish . should we becoming too prudish. should we just get on board with this kind of stuff? >> john, i don't think i don't think becoming more prudish . i think becoming more prudish. i think becoming more prudish. i think it's a strange story, isn't it? i mean, what are these people up to? sacks? john. now, the point is, they do in the country, you may think they don't know much about sex. they don't know much about sex. they do know a lot about sex. they deal with every day with their with all their livestock. so. >> oh my god , is johnny gonna >> oh my god, is johnny gonna say that ? say that? >> the idea is moaning and groaning? i think it's one of those stories which break it down. the local authority have agreed for this to happen. they've agreed for this to happen. it was last year they had this , there were only 500 had this, there were only 500 then. it was obviously a great success, i suspect, because i was brought up in a village in oxfordshire. my father was the
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vicar, and he said, what do they get up to? you know, it's not innocent in the countryside. and i'm sure what they're really concerned about is how much money is being made by this and who's getting the money? okay, that's the real issue. i don't believe it. i don't believe they're more or less prudish. i think they're saying, well, if it gets us a bit of money, that's not a bad idea. whose fields are they? whose? suzanne? >> should we be having sex fest in british fields? >> no. i mean, you know, you asked the question. are we too prudish? no, we're not prudish enough. why? why are we having allowing this kind of stuff? sex? >> you would burn it? yeah >> you would burn it? yeah >> butt plug. bingo. sex? >> butt plug. bingo. sex? >> absolutely. i don't even know what it is. >> brit school bannau. >> brit school bannau. >> you can imagine. surely it should be banned. >> we have. we have sex. should be something that's done in private. i'm sick to death of having it shoved in my face. don't. don't go to the festival. >> i don't have to. >> i don't have to. >> i don't have to. >> i own every newspaper, john. ihear >> i own every newspaper, john. i hear it on the television. it's a sex. sex. >> moaning and groaning. >> moaning and groaning. >> oh, people talk about is sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. and frankly, i've had enough of it. it's boring. >> oh, right. >> oh, right. >> okay. michael, would you ever go to a festival like this?
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>> yes. michael would. yes, michael. >> variations. not this one. this doesn't this doesn't seem like my people. >> no, no, no, but, i would say i think actually, we as a nation are not too prudish. >> i think we're moving in the right direction, which is we're fairly liberal and open about these things. i think this is a story about nimbyism. so, you know, we've had a big war on nimbyism over the past couple of weeks. i think this is people i think most of these people, most of these people will be saying, look, we're very happy for people to have, you know, kinky sex, but not in our backyard. and they need to have kinky sex somewhere . somewhere. >> so why do you why do we have to know that people are having. but why do we? >> you don't have to know this moaning and groaning though. i mean, why can't they? >> i don't believe that they can hear moaning and groaning. i can't believe it's louder than the foxes outside my window. >> it makes me think the story is a little bit shaky. >> right. okay, well, i think that's enough of that. so thank you everybody , right now, you everybody, right now, a complete shift in tone. ukraine's president zelenskyy found himself attending the uk government's cabinet meeting
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earlier today as the first foreign leader to pay starmer a visit since he became prime minister. but the visit didn't go to plan for zelenskyy. i'm sorry, but increasingly is just treating us a bit like an amazon shopping market because starmer has rebuffed his request to fire british made missiles. actually deeper into russian territory. suzanne was starmer right to say no to this? yeah, i think this is actually the first decision he's made that i actually agree with. >> he was absolutely right. you know, if you want to invoke world war iii, if you want to escalate this crisis, that is exactly what you do. so starmer has made the right decision. but that said, i don't think he should have invited president zelenskyy into the cabinet. the cabinet is for british ministers, it was a big mistake. i michael, where are you on this this zelenskyy issue? >> the two things, whether or not he should have been in the cabinet meeting, but also if we should have even really asked, to be honest, to fire missiles into russian territory, >> i mean, i think if you're zelenskyy, you're going to ask for everything you might be able
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to get, you know, this is his country. he wants to defend it to the hilt. good for him. you know, i would say that you know, as a third party as we are, the position of we will provide you whatever you need to defend yourselves. but we're not going to provide you enough to attack or to, you know, to to, counterattack against russia because that would create a world war three. i don't think that's a particularly unreasonable position as from attending cabinet, i mean, again, it's symbolic, but who really cares ? it's not going to really cares? it's not going to cause world war iii to invite him to the cabinet, is it? >> oh, john, what do you think. no, i think it's good. >> obviously it helps him at home. zelenskyy at home. it makes people realise how strongly we are committed to ukraine. we're not committed to war against russia. that's a good thing too. and people should understand that. but i think he's a remarkable man. and he in fact, later on, i may even be giving him my nomination. you may , john, not for the first may, john, not for the first time. that's a secret at the moment, but . moment, but. >> yeah, absolutely. oh, it's a total secret. yeah. look like joe biden has come out swinging tonight. he's refusing to back out of the election race. he's promising to return to the campaign trail. can i just say that the noise is really were
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actually yesterday and today that he was going to pull out over the weekend. so, so this is a change. but after this embarrassing clip from march resurfaced today, let's just hope his wife jill is one step ahead of him. next week, a. there we go. hello he either didn't know his wife was or he did, and he didn't want to. anyway, coming up after the co—founder of just stop oil, roger hallam, was jailed for five years over the eco group's m25 protest. are we finally taking the threat that these climate activists pose seriously? my panel thrash it out when i crown tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. greatest britain and union jackass . and what happens next here? >> what a display of sprinting from the young britain reveal all and more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. >> stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. we do have some fun in the breaks, right? i've got some more front pages for you. so let's do it, we've got the mirror day. the world stood still. transport, business, gps. it's all the same story, isn't it? about, the microsoft meltdown, the daily express? how on earth did digital pandemic paralyse the world? massive it outage. okay, they've gone for that again. okay guess what's on the guardian. anyone recovery from global it failure could take weeks. okay. the telegraph holidays in chaos after global i.t. meltdown, bowed and vows to fight on as well . and threat to fight on as well. and threat to new fighter jet from defence cuts. so britain's next generation fighter jet programme is in doubt. after labour abandoned the tory pledge to increase defence spending to 2.5% of gdp. so those are all of your front pages. i am, of course, joined again by my
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wonderful press pack. we've got john sergeant suzanne evans and michael walker. now, talking of holidays that are supposedly about to be cancelled by this, this digital pandemic that we're all living through , but, if all living through, but, if brits abroad haven't already suffered enough with the anti—tourist protest at popular houday anti—tourist protest at popular holiday hotspots like mallorca, tenerife, now they're facing a £210 charge for getting too hasty and grabbing a sunlounger. if you place your belongings on the sand in the popular costa blanca resort of calpe in spain before 9:30 am, or leave them unattended for more than three hours, they'll be removed and then you will have to pay for then you will have to pay for the privilege of retrieving them. i mean, this is this is just discrimination. criminalising brits abroad. john >> no, ijust criminalising brits abroad. john >> no, i just i criminalising brits abroad. john >> no, ijust i always think criminalising brits abroad. john >> no, i just i always think the i don't go to these beach resorts very much. i can't see the point of them. but when i have gone and gone to the beach, there's sort of fighting for the sun loungers and things. it is a feature and people putting things on their sun loungers so
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large areas, there's nobody sitting there and you think, can't this be organised a little bit? can't you just have a ticket with a time on it, as a time when you start, time when you finish? oh, that sounds very control freak. >> no, but you can only spend three hours on a sunday. all right. >> but okay, so i'm a well, that's kind of what they're doing though to be fair beach activity i'm a control freak. >> but but that is actually genuinely kind of basically what they're doing. if you leave youn they're doing. if you leave your, your belongings unattended for three hours, then you like, they'll basically put your car in the pound. it's like that, but with presumably a towel. >> it's kind of the height of rudeness, isn't it? to hog a sunbed all day really is the height of rudeness. but but really, finding somebody £210, i think that's a bit harsh. well, they're not actually fining them. >> so as far as i understood it, they take your towel and your umbrella and to get it back, you'd have to pay ,210. so presumably you're just not going to get it back. well not you'd leave the you'd leave the trunks in the. i'm not paying 210 to get my old trunks back. >> that whenever you leave on the sun lounger is less than £210. i mean, that's. yeah. >> yeah, it's an institution though, isn't it? when you're on
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holiday, you've got to get up. beat the germans. no. >> well apparently the reason this, one of the reasons this started is because the spanish were getting up earlier than the brits and they were going right to the seashore because the brits are up late drinking. >> so there was something that they were selling the spanish for an advantage, because they get to have a nap in the middle of the day. >> right. so they're, they're, they're primed and ready to go at 6 am. we different culture, as you alluded to there, which involves things like necking jagerbombs until the small hours late. >> you know, we're doing things with livestock in the rural areas apparently. >> and we are we are at a natural disadvantage when it comes to the sunbed sunbed thing. anyway, have a look at this. okay, everybody get ready. this is a viral clip for you. now i've teased the living daylights out of this. so here we go. here it is. >> what? >> what? >> a display of sprinting from the young briton. this is absolutely phenomenal. and he's he's just easing up. what's happened here. >> what has gone on there . >> what has gone on there. >> what has gone on there. >> that was an absolute disaster phil mitchell he has eased up
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far far far too early. >> and half the field swept past him before the finish line. >> this is going to be a lesson learnt. the very very hard way. >> yeah. what an idiot. what an all of that training, all of the effort, everything. and that you're winning. you've done the bit, then you stop and you lose to a bloke from sweden i mean ridiculous. also, i like the fact that apparently the co—commentator was called phil mitchell. i never thought he'd do that throw over. we go now to phil mitchell. yeah. it's awful wasn't it? absolutely awful. right. time to today's greatest britain union jackass john who is and no one will be able to guess this. your greatest britain, the greatest britain. >> honorary for president zelenskyy. why because he's amazingly brave guy. and formidable politician. and he's doing his best to save his country. >> all right, good stuff. >> all right, good stuff. >> suzanne, it's the judge and jury >> suzanne, it's the judge and jury in the just stop oil trial who locked up the protesters for five years. yes. finally. >> yeah . get him naked. get him
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>> yeah. get him naked. get him next level. >> get out early, though , >> get out early, though, weren't they? >> they're still locked up. >> they're still locked up. >> well, yeah. go on. michael mine is moeen ali. >> he's the green councillor who was smeared online as a rioter. and then it turns out that he was one of the few brave people trying to stop people setting things alight. >> yeah, there was footage came out of him last night. he was he was just trying to say to people, trying to say to people, we basically we live here like, don't, don't do that. so no fair play. credit where credit is due. right, today's winner of the greatest britain. just go, however, to the judge and jury that decided that they were finally going to take action in a big way against extinction rebellion, including roger hallam, who was responsible for one of the weirdest videos i have ever seen about talking about the level of societal dysfunction that will come as a result of climate change going about, you know, they're going to burn your eyes out with hot pokers and do unspeakable nasty death cultist who's destroying the minds of our young people. and now, in my view, he's in prison. yeah. so there we go, >> he did also raise climate change up the political agenda. extinction rebellion actually very successful in terms of getting more people to care about it. >> we've got plenty of time to think about that in prison. yeah
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well, said, john union jackass is your idiot jackass. john okay. my jackass. no, it's helen who should resign. she's the chair of the criminal cases review commission, okay? and they did not act soon enough to help that poor guy locked up for seven years for a rape that he did not commit. and it seems to me that they've now got a manoeuvre. apparently, they have to go through a procedure to remove her. the government thinks she should go. the minister thinks he should go. she should go, but for some reason or other, she doesn't take the hint. no. >> well, probably the money, i imagine, but. >> oh, i wouldn't say that. that's shocking. >> oh. all right, get me back for the old livestock comment . for the old livestock comment. right. okay, suzanne, who's your who's your union? jackass? please >> very simple. it's the appalling rioters in leeds. >> yeah. fair enough. go, michael. >> mine is benjamin netanyahu, and that is because he has today or israel has today been found guilty of the crime of apartheid and of illegally occupying palestinian territories at the international court of justice,
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the highest court in the world. >> okay, actually is very not biased at all. >> well, i mean, it has been illegal for a long time, hasn't it? i mean, what i find surprising, people say this is the first time. it's the first time the court, because the court is quite a new thing, isn't it? >> well, the court actually had. no, no, the icj has been there for the whole time. the un has been there. the icc is the un. >> the un declared it illegal for years ago. yeah. >> today and our governments ignore it. today's winners of the union jackass are the people who rioted in leeds. so there we go . okay, a win for me. it's a go. okay, a win for me. it's a double win. it is a double win for susan evans. everybody fixed. right. it's rigged . yes. fixed. right. it's rigged. yes. absolutely. yeah. right okay. so well done. everybody. especially susan who won that particular award now. yeah i'll be back on monday. can i just say a massive thank you to all of you. thank you, thank you, thank you. it's been an interesting show tonight. some ups, some downs, some really defamatory stuff about livestock. but yeah, here we are. i don't think it was the livestock he was defaming.
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you're right. but whatever. we're not going back there again. okay. headliners are on next. the more detailed look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. i will see you on monday at nine. have a great weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. humid and cloudy through saturday, but as we head into sunday it's looking mostly dry, but considerably fresher than today. that's because weather fronts are moving in from the north and west and behind that we've got much cooler air arriving through saturday. before then, though, a humid night to come for much of england and wales, as well as some eastern areas of scotland. two quite a lot of cloud building in from the west, but across eastern areas it should stay clear and dry through much of the night and temperatures here not falling much below 17 or 18 degrees further north and
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west, though slightly fresher. we've already got that fresher air arriving into the far north and west by tomorrow morning. so after a spell of rain overnight across the western isles, it will slowly start to brighten up through the day. the rain not arriving to eastern areas of scotland until later on in the day, but a wet start to the day across northern ireland, temperatures only around 15 degrees here. first thing north east england a dry start to the day. much of eastern and central areas of england will see some sunshine first thing, but that sunshine first thing, but that sunshine will turn hazier as the day goes on. and that's because this weather front will continue its journey eastwards through the day . now it does bring the day. now it does bring a risk of some very heavy downpours , particularly across downpours, particularly across western areas. through the day. it's unlikely to arrive into the east until at least saturday evening, so you should stay dry across eastern areas through much of saturday. but it's still going to feel quite humid out there, and temperatures across east anglia in particular could still reach the high 20s. by contrast, across western areas we're down into the high
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>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler from the gb newsroom at 11:00. your top story this hour. the boss of cybersecurity firm crowdstrike, which is responsible for worldwide. it outages, admits it could be some time before all systems are back up and running. more than 5000 flights at many world's airports
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have been grounded since early this morning, with airlines unable to complete check ins. banks supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio stations are among the many who've been knocked offline. those travelling by rail were also affected, with transpennine express, thameslink and southern among those who've reported disruption. crowdstrike ceo says it's not related to a security incident or a cyber attack. the home secretary has branded violent disorder that broke out on the streets of leeds as audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested after trouble flared in the harehills area last night, with vehicles set ablaze and a police car overturned. it's understood the riots were linked to local children being taken into care, with fears tensions could boil over again tonight. yvette cooper says those responsible for violent disorder in leeds should feel the full force of the law. >> i've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and
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