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half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm andrew doyle. i'm taking you on a journey through saturday's newspapers with my two comedy crewmates, leo kearse and steve n allen. do you like the nautical introduction there? yes. yeah. is that a salute? yeah yeah. you're a military man, aren't you, steve? >> i thought that was all star trek though. you were talking about crewmates. oh i see, i thought that's right up my street. >> that's where your mind goes. >> that's where your mind goes. >> not wearing a red shirt. i'll get through this one. >> how are you, leo? >> how are you, leo? >> yeah, i'm not bad. >> yeah, i'm not bad. >> i'm. no stranger to seamen. >> i'm. no stranger to seamen. >> okay, let's have a look at the front covers before we crack on. >> so saturday's daily mail is leading with global. >> it meltdown shows peril of going cashless. we'll get to

that in a moment. the telegraph holidays in chaos after global. it meltdown. this seems to be the theme the times has that same story. it companies error could be terminal for getaways. the mirror day the world stood still. they've gone with the melodramatic approach. the express has got. how on earth did digital pandemic paralyse the world? good question. and the world? good question. and the daily star computer says no. those were your front covers . those were your front covers. right. then we're going to kick off with the daily mail. leo, what are they leading? well, we know what they're leading with the same story as everyone else. yeah, they managed to get it out. >> probably wrote it on a typewriter. it's global. it meltdown shows peril of going cashless. so cashless is a thing. it's like little bits of paper people used to use to exchange for. oh, i've heard of that. yeah. no, apparently half of britons leave their house with only their phones as a means of payment, we call with only their phones as a means of payment , we call those means of payment, we call those people women, and it means, you

know, without the systems working, you've actually got to swap your phone for whatever you're buying. so unless you're buying, bartering, right? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> so unless , unless, you know, >> so unless, unless, you know, you're what you're what you're getting is the same value as an iphone 14, then it's not it's not an efficient system. i don't i don't totally understand what caused this it meltdown . there's caused this it meltdown. there's a cybersecurity update that rolled out and didn't win. it hit windows computers. they crashed or whatever. some people on twitter have been speculating that it's because of diversity, eqtu that it's because of diversity, equity and inclusion. >> of course, you wouldn't like to speculate yourself . you're to speculate yourself. you're merely reporting on the speculations of others. >> oh no, i was one of those people. yeah, but but it's interesting that these companies that are like, oh, we, we're we're so focused on diversity, eqtu we're so focused on diversity, equity and inclusion, it's like, well, should you not just be focused on getting the job done and maybe a meritocratic hiring system and, you know, having that as your core business? >> no, i want to be surrounded by a diverse group of people, not necessarily the best group of people. that's my that's hence the headline is you, you know, a lot about this kind of

technical stuff is nerd with no friends. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> that's right. i wasn't going to say it, but could you explain to say it, but could you explain to us in a non—boring way why this has happened ? this has happened? >> no. >> no. >> okay. could you explain to us in a semi boring way? >> yes. so you need these updates all the time. they patch problems that stop hackers doing stuff. malware getting into your computers. the cyber security firm had to roll out an update. but these days there are so many updates. they're all automated . updates. they're all automated. yes. so in theory, you should roll it out and test it. and then release it like a good old service back in the good old days. but there's too many of them, so they just happen. this one caused a problem so that windows thought it wasn't configured properly, wouldn't turn on the solution. they they then within a few hours they were saying, we've got a patch for you. don't worry. as if that makes it easy. yeah. just log on to the website. oh no, wait a minute. your computer doesn't turn on, so you've got to find a way. probably just booting into safe mode or using linux. everyone get on linux. >> what about apple? why don't stick to apple? because i believe apple is virus free. >> no it's not. you know, there's a javascript one. i think was a javascript exploit. i know that will be gone these

days.i i know that will be gone these days. i mean, all of this reminds me of the y2k thing. >> this is like, what would have happened if that happened? yeah. >> yeah, it kind of is. although planes didn't fall out of the sky. oh did they? i've got to be honest, as a scottish person living in london, i'm looking forward to a cashless society because, you know, as a scot trying to spend scottish money, i had somebody stop me in the supermarket. the cashier was like, was like, is this real? he holds up my scottish £20 note, the biggest denomination you can get in scotland. yes. as if i could fake money and fake scottish money. >> yeah. no you wouldn't, would you? because no shops accepted. this is the thing about this, steve, is the way the mail is spinning. this is. this is about. perhaps we should go back to a cash, you know, a cash based society. >> the good old days when you'd buy a flight in, cash, the check in or what were the other one? the gps. yeah. the good old cash would help the gp. no, because it was trains, gps and airports. they were all crippled. how did we notice the difference? one of them was transpennine express. that barely moves anyway, so the fact that they managed to work it out. no. look, on days like this, this incredibly rare event, having cash would solve the problem. but you'd have a

worse economy because it would be very difficult to do all of this stuff that requires technology these days. >> well, i was in vegas the other week, and, at the conference i was at, they were spending these sort of notes made of gold , where the notes made of gold, where the notes themselves contained the amount of gold that is the value of the note. >> right? right. what about that? >> yeah. that'll really speed things up when you're trying to get on your train. like when i get on your train. like when i get a train, there's an app where you just buy the ticket, scan the barcode, go in. there's no queuing anymore. so yeah, for the one day there's a problem. and by the way, were you putting these gold things in the stripper's garter? is that what you did with it? because you're in vegas? >> i mean, i wouldn't do something so degenerate. >> you get someone to put it in the garter for you. but other people certainly would, >> anyway, we're going to move on on that rather strange note to the next paper, which is the times and leo. no, steve. >> sorry. yeah. i mean, the times got a few stories. the picture at the top. laura. kenny says i wanted a baby more than a gold medal. that would be a terrible thing to win at an olympics, though, wouldn't it? imagine that. oh, it feels wrong. it would be weighty around the neck. yeah, and at least you can trade that gold in

for things during an it breakdown . breakdown. >> oh, you can trade babies in in some cultures it's not, you know, you took a baby in a stripper's garter and it seems ruins the mood for some people. >> they of course they talk about it stuff. of course they do . but 5.5% public pay sector do. but 5.5% public pay sector pay do. but 5.5% public pay sector pay rise dilemma. millions of pubuc pay rise dilemma. millions of public sector workers, including teachers and nurses, should be given an above inflation pay rise, according to an independent review. i don't think it's going to happen because, well, they've already received some money anyway, which they say has been like sucked up by inflation. this will be a thing where if you just find a number lower than that, the unions won't labour that, the unions won't labour that much, because at least they're not the tories. and labour will be able to say, well, we didn't pay 5.5. >> isn't the problem here that, you know, labour has pledged to do something about the low wages. but on the other hand, this independent pay review body has said it should be higher than you had anticipated. and this is kind of leaving rachel reeves in a bit of a pickle. >> yeah, absolutely. labour were just elected mainly by you know, these work shy public sector apparatchiks who are like oh

squeeze, squeeze the squeeze the working people so you can give us squeeze more of their gold out and give it to us. >> you mean underpaid teachers and nurses? i think that's what you're referring to. >> if you read the guardian, you might want to say that, you know, i prefer soulless, leeches. soulless, dull apparatchiks. >> i was one of those leeches once.i >> i was one of those leeches once. i was a teacher. i was definitely underpaid. yeah how about that? >> yeah. yeah, well, i used to work in the public sector, and that's what turned me right wing, because i saw the amount of waste and profligacy that was that was going on. and i think, you know, because they're looking at not everybody's getting the same level of pay rise. i think doctors are looking at a 12.5% pay rise, which is obviously going to get you know, make the other apparatchiks upset that they're not getting as much. >> yeah. but, you know, doctors get quite a lot already. i mean, the thing is, steve, should it not be the case that that in terms of education, in terms of teachers, that should be the priority for society if you pay them properly, you raise the level of competition. you increase the quality of teaching that has a trickle down effect of virtually every other aspect of virtually every other aspect of societal cohesion . of societal cohesion. >> yes, but there's not a limitless amount of money. and

there are other ways to improve there are other ways to improve the standard of education. so when you're facing , realising when you're facing, realising there's no money left, trying to find another way, you know, change your national curriculum, which i think we come on to later on today. but things like that can improve standards of teaching. >> but the problem is that we know. we know, for instance, from the michaela school, which i always go on about, they get the highest results in the country with inner city kids who can't afford to have private education, but no one wants to take on board those approaches because they see them as too conservative. so is anything going to change? no. >> i mean, i think while our pubuc >> i mean, i think while our public sectors are gripped by left wing ideologues, you know, the necessary changes that would work that are proven to work, although maybe labour will be the people to push it forward because, i mean, wes streeting has looked at, you know, what's working in individual nhs trusts, individual hospitals and said, well , let's replicate that said, well, let's replicate that across the, the nhs. so if they do that with education, maybe it'll work, maybe we'll have a look at the front cover of the telegraph. >> they've also of course got this international meltdown with it and a picture of miriam margolyes who doesn't like that. but actually they've got another article here too.

>> what's that? yeah. so biden vows to fight on as party gears up to replace him. joe biden insists he will stay in the race despite allies urging him to pass the torch. >> allies barack obama secretly plotting to get rid of it. >> yeah, yeah , looks like the >> yeah, yeah, looks like the tried to assassinate the wrong person. they're going to have to. they're going to have to hire another hitman. let's, or hit person. sorry, i forgot they're left. >> well, let's hope that they don't do that, but they surely he should step down. i mean, he is not in a good way. and basically no democrats want him to run. >> well, people say that he's not in a good way. but i've been reliably informed by the guardian that those are, in fact, far right conspiracy theories. and deep fakes and cheap fakes. >> yeah, the whole live debate was a big, deep fake. >> yeah. and everything joe biden does and the obvious gaffes that he makes in his own videos and his own, like when he almost said, make america great again the other day. and he also said, he said, a great one. he said, he said, a great one. he said, you know, the attempted assassination was terrible in this in this country. we settled things at the battle box did say that. and then he repeated it.

>> he did say battle box twice. but, you know, the thing is, i find it quite sad at this point. you know, the guy is obviously not. you know, he said that trump was his vice president. didn't he call himself the first black woman to. i don't know, something, but no, that was clever because now you criticise him. >> you're being racist andrew. >> you're being racist andrew. >> so i see, i see well, i mean, he— >> so i see, i see well, i mean, he can identify as however he wants. i don't mind, but he shouldn't identify as the president. >> yeah he shouldn't and it's not going to happen is it. i think loads of democrats think it's not going to happen. if you look at the actuaries, they probably think there's not a chance of him making it that long either. so we're now we're just in this weird holding pattern where he refuses to. i think he said, like, even if god almighty told him to quit, he might. i think god's sending quite a few signals already. you've got covid when covid was gone, man. this is clearly a signal from high on above. >> yes. and your rival survived an assassination attempt. i mean, the thing like it's just at this point he cannot win. yeah, let's be honest about that. but who could? they're talking about maybe michelle obama swooping in at the last minute, or even george clooney. i mean, that would shake things up a bit. >> yeah. and the trouble with george clooney and all the

people on the left, the hollywood celebrities who support the democrats is they they love to talk about how great the democrats are, but they don't actually want to be in the hot seat getting all the abuse, having to do all the work. they just want to put on a hat and pretend they're somebody in a film. >> it is tough. but, you know, to be honest, since hulk hogan pred to be honest, since hulk hogan ripped his shirt off, i think trump's got it in the bag. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, i mean can't come back from that. that's the realest american in the whole of america. >> the old days, it was clint eastwood talking to an empty chair. another got hulk hogan doing stuff on there. they've raised their game. >> they have raised their game. good for them. well look, that's what we've got time for in this section. but join us after these adverts for leeds united to terrorist and badenoch

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saturday's guardian. leo. this story's a riot. yeah. >> quite. so this is about the riots in leeds, harefield in leeds last night. we all saw the pictures. there were buses on fire, police cars flipped. thousands of people out in the streets rioting, you know, starting the fires and stuff. and the police turned up and were actually sort of in the footage that i saw, the police turned up and they left. they left because there was too much it was too much of a which really worries me about, you know, what sort of state the country is in. if just one riot can be too much for the police, what if the riots join up? what if you know this this gets out of hand and spreads. >> don't worry about it, leo, because, you know, if an autistic child suggests that a police officer looks like their lesbian grandmother, they'll kick the door down. >> well, they've got lots of officers. when it's you know, if it's a middle class old lady who, you know, is praying, silently in her head on the street, or if it's somebody who's retweeted a transphobic limerick, then they can scramble all units. but when they actually, you know, want to get their hands dirty, it doesn't it doesn't happen. >> but it happened here. we know that a child was taken away by

family. >> so a baby apparently. well all the children were, were taken away from a family, which is apparently a roma family. yeah, and that was misreported as romanian, by a lot of people on, on twitter, but then, you know, the rioting spread, and i mean, this this this article is in the guardian. so the guardian are obviously spinning it as you know, we're in it together. how the unrest in leeds escalated and was defused. and then they have this whole thing about, you know, isn't it wonderful, the community, you know, some people from the community came to try and put the fires out as if. oh, what a wonderful example of multicultural success. and that's great. >> you know, it is good. i mean, the riot news story about the riot, we were all coming together to, you know, stop the riots. >> it's literally like , you >> it's literally like, you know, that norm macdonald tweet where he says, you know, my biggest fear is, you know, if a if a muslim detonated a bomb and killed 50 million americans, i mean , imagine the backlash mean, imagine the backlash against peaceful muslims. it's very much that tweet turned into an entire article. >> what do you think of this, steve? because it is disturbing, isn't it? not? well, on two fronts. the fact that it

happened at all, the fact that people are rioting on the streets, but also that the police don't appear to be doing anything about it. >> yes, almost. regardless of the cause, you need to have a system where the police can stop a riot, right? yeah. >> pretty basic. >> pretty basic. >> it's one of their. yeah, it should be page one of stuff you want the police to do in a society is to protect the society. and that includes from riot. you legally not allowed to riot. you legally not allowed to riot. so that should be shut down. >> why aren't they doing it? >> why aren't they doing it? >> well, it does seem like a numbers thing, doesn't it? it's a health. it's numbers versus health and safety. oh, we can't possibly go into that. right. there's a bus on fire. yeah. >> look at the slope in that room. i'm not getting on that. >> but it's also true. look i like to think i'm the person who can find, like, the calm middle ground way through a story without, you know, deliberately trying to whip people up because that's your expertise. and why should i step on your toes? but i was thinking this on the way in. if someone if the police came along or the services came along and took my children, there is no community around me that would kick off and have a riot. and that's an interesting thought, isn't it? that's what we're up against. >> well, it looked to me like there were lots of opportunists

here who perhaps didn't care all that much about the family and their concerns. >> yeah, and didn't care much about being filmed. literally trying to set fire to a bus region. clearly identified. no mask on. very brazen. so yeah, very, very brazen, you know, shows the level. i mean some some communities apparently the police just have a sort of hands off approach and the authorities off approach and the authorities of a hand off, hands off approach. but i think we need to question, you know, what's going on in britain. that's causing this, that's leading to this happening ? happening? >> well, we've got to move on to saturday's mail now. and this group, unrwa unrwa . yes. from group, unrwa unrwa. yes. from from what was it? the thundercats . thundercats. >> is that what it is? mumm—ra. you think i'm thinking of mumm—ra? did live for a while, didn't he? yeah. so this is, david lammy says britain will restart funding un aid body in gaza with 21 million as foreign secretary reverses pause . secretary reverses pause. prompted by unsubstantiated claims that staff were involved in hamas terror. so this is yeah , in hamas terror. so this is yeah, unrwa, the w silence. i don't know what all the letters stand for, but it's someone with attitude, you know that it's a un body. >> yeah, that has been accused of having a small number of

hamas sympathisers within its ranks. >> i think it's quite a big proportion. >> sympathisers. yeah >> sympathisers. yeah >> being involved, i think it was around 12 actually involved in the, in the not just sympathisers but people who actually got involved in the terror and slaughtering civilians. yeah. well millom is saying that those were unsubstantiated allegations and that's why he's making the funding happen, even if they're. >> well, it's not just that they're unsubstantiated. there's then an independent report into this body that has come up with recommendations of changes that need to be made to keep it neutral. well, if you can come up with changes that need to be made, that's not exonerating this group, is it? that's saying something is wrong. something has gone awry. so even though you don't necessarily have evidence , look, it seems evidence, look, it seems a little bit rotten. there's claims that, okay, so there's no there's at the moment there is no suggestion that they have found that these people definitively did not take part in the in the atrocity. >> is that right? >> is that right? >> and they have definitely found evidence of i mean, tory mp richard holden raised these concerns with david lammy. he said unrwa schools have been repeatedly used by terrorists to store weapons and launch attacks

from okay, and they've found, you know, they found evidence of, electricity being used, you know, the facilities being shared. and it's not like anybody's working at these unrwa facilities. it's like, oh, do you think there's you think there's hamas in the basement, like they know. >> so this is definitely a problem because, i mean, we had the wall street journal reporting on intelligence dossiers, which suggested that up to 10% of unrwa's staff were had connections to islamist groups. as you say, the schools now , obviously, unrwa is now, obviously, unrwa is providing a lot of the schools and education throughout gaza , and education throughout gaza, but we know that a significant portion of those teachers have been praising hamas on telegram and this kind of thing. so there's something rotten there. wouldn't lammy be better off exercising a little bit of caution until we have definitive answers? >> but your flip side is that who else can provide the conduhs who else can provide the conduits for the aid that's needed right now? so what you've got is a tricky situation. you need to possibly use their system , that infrastructure, system, that infrastructure, whilst at the same time trying to reform it or replace it, have a body that can do this work,

but at this moment you kind of need them to facilitate things. >> okay, a bit tricky that one. then we're going to move to on the express now and kemi badenoch is turning agony aunt. yeah. >> so kemi badenoch warns angela rayner she's been stitched up by labourin rayner she's been stitched up by labour in a brutal speech. so she tore into labour's housing proposals, warning angela rayner that she's been set up as a fall guy by keir starmer. there's already this sort of rivalry between starmer and rayner, coming into play here. but laboun coming into play here. but labour, you know, got into power. they said we're going to build 1.5 million new homes. that's 800 new homes a day. over the course of their of the course of their, they're being in government. >> can you build a home in a day? it's almost like an amish. oh, it's an average. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, they did it in that film. witness the all the amish people. they'll probably just get some amish builders. >> good for them. >> good for them. >> over. yeah, it'll be a different kind of, bearded people coming into the uk, but. but, yeah, basically they're under they're, they're saying, yeah, they might leave us. you know what i mean? they do that in some. i've seen, seen that in

afghanistan. but, i don't i'm not saying they're amish over there, though. apparently amish are going to be the biggest. their fertility rate is like over seven. so they're going to be in like 100 years. they're going to be the biggest group in america. >> they haven't got computers or anything. they've got nothing else to do. >> yeah, yeah. so that's that's all they do. but that's kind of reassuring for the for the future. we're actually we're heading for an amish paradise actually that is amish paradise. >> hasn't that hit by coolio? yeah. >> but yeah. so labour have promised, you know, all these houses, they're going to be built on green belt land, but then a lot of labour votes came from green belt land . from green belt land. previously, they got 17% of the votes in the green belt. this time round, they've got half of the votes. those people you know won't necessarily want a big tower block full of randoms just popping up tower block full of randoms just popping up next to them. >> and kemi badenoch is suggesting that rayner hasn't really come up with any of these ideas. they've been foisted upon her. yeah, and you know, i haven't watched the speech, but reading the account, it seems that there's a lot of trash talk and sass going down. >> you should watch the clip because there is so much

attitude, can be so patronising. i remember thinking, how can you be that patronising when you've just had your ass handed to you in an election? they say, oh well , i'll know what in an election? they say, oh well, i'll know what you do wrong. well, whatever you did didn't win you anything either because you just tried to build some houses, failed to build some houses, failed to build some houses, failed to build some houses and lost an election with the worst loss going. and you're standing there giving it some chin. >> but kimmy won her seat. >> but kimmy won her seat. >> well, so did angela. you know, she want to see the one that many tories who managed to. i was surprised that this level of trash talk after such a huge loss, more sass in the house of commons rather than all the old fashioned jeering. >> you know, let's let's make it a bit more waspish sass. i'm all about that. let's move on to the times. now. we've got some, inconvenient facts from our favourite fox thumper, >> lawyers accused of dangerous and false trans suicide claims. so my theme of the night is if it can be asserted without evidence, it can be refuted without evidence. yes. classic bit of hitchens. so activist lawyers are spreading distressing and dangerous claims that transgender children will kill themselves because of the ban on puberty blockers . yeah. ban on puberty blockers. yeah. if true. huge. terrible. let's have a look at the truth side of

this. should we, so there seems to be no evidence to back it up. none. and that's the thing here. if you don't have the evidence, because then the flip side could be, what about all the people who will kill themselves because they go through a medical procedure at a young age and regret it later? where's your stats on that? oh, there are no stats. if it can be asserted without evidence, it can be. we should be clear about this. >> this is jolyon maugham who set up the good law project, which is a group that's famous for sort of going to these high court cases and losing every time. he's the guy who beat that fox to death with a baseball bat dressed in a kimono on boxing day morning. i don't want to raise, you know, dig dirt, but, i mean, that's pretty extreme. and he's also the guy who has just said this outright false thing. i mean, he said there were whistleblowers who were telling him that since the puberty blockers ban, there's been an exponential increase of trans youth suicide. factually, completely wrong. owen jones repeated the same lie . what? i repeated the same lie. what? i mean, these standards are so poon mean, these standards are so poor. yeah. >> and also it's very dangerous. i mean, it goes against the guidance on safe reporting of suicide because, you know, if you talk about if you tell

people, vulnerable people who may have mental health issues, if you tell them that they're going to commit suicide, there's an increased , increased risk of an increased, increased risk of them committing suicide. so it's very irresponsible for julian to do. there has never been a good person called jolly. >> no it's not. >> no it's not. >> it can't happen. awful. the only good thing about him is that he killed that fox. but he said he. he gave this statement saying i was not contacted in advance of the statement being released and will obviously need time to respond. i do have difficulties with the figures and analysis and will respond in due course, so it doesn't sound like he was absolutely certain of the figures before he made these grand assertions. >> and the problem is he's just done a big like 38 part thread, whingeing about the fact that he's been caught out, sort of spreading complete disinformation. why can't he just say, yeah, i got it wrong ? just say, yeah, i got it wrong? sorry. that would do, wouldn't it? >> that's not how arguments work these days . no. these days. no. >> pathetic. anyway, let's finish this section with the ai news, and, leo, whatever you do, don't mention rwanda. >> so starmer opens the door to offshore processing of migrants to solve the channel crisis. offshore processing of migrants .

offshore processing of migrants. where have i heard that before? oh, yeah. rishi was going to do it in rwanda. and apparently labour said no, this was cruel. and despicable thing that could possibly be done. but starmer showed an interest in talks with albanian prime minister edi rama about the deal between italy and albania. so under the agreement between italy and albania, thousands of migrants picked up in italian waters or transported to albania to have their asylum claims heard , however, a number claims heard, however, a number 10 spokes spokes woman , the a 10 spokes spokes woman, the a woman said we're not exploring offshore processing so i don't know if starmer is like dialled back.i know if starmer is like dialled back. i think starmer wants to do some stuff and he's realised he's actually he's not ahead of the tories. >> yeah, but he said that he could completely solve the small boats crisis. and apparently the solution is not rwanda but albania instead. yeah. i mean you know, it's a different policy, totally different country. >> no, this isn't just about having people who illegally find a way to the uk, sending them to an offshore place and processing them there. it's about letting applications happen before someone has to make it all the way to the uk. there is a weird

irony in our situation that you have to be on british soil to apply for asylum, and the journey people have said is illegal, so therefore there are no legal routes. yes, exactly. he's saying that none of them. but if you if the presumption. yeah. so but that means you'd never live up to any of your, international requirements to take refugees, whereas if you can process people. well, wait a minute. if you can process people before they make the journey, then anyone making the journey, then anyone making the journey definitely is illegal. and you would have you would have accepted the ones you approve anyway. so there's no great loss there. that's a number that we would have had a successful asylum seekers. so what's the downside. >> but there's well there's people who are genuine asylum seekers. they're coming from a, you know, a horrific a war, a war like like ukraine. and we know, you know, they're culturally not too distant. and once the war is over, they're a lot of them are going to want to go back. a lot of them already have gone back. and then you've got other people who use the asylum system as a way to get into the country, because for some reason, they think it's a goodidea some reason, they think it's a good idea to get into britain, usually for economic reasons.

and my issue with the asylum system is it becomes, you know, if you've got a country that's that's failing, you've got a failing societal structure, you don't have prosperity, you've got sectarian wars going on. we're bringing the cultures that lead to that type of society to the uk and, you know, encouraging them to grow. >> but if you have that system and you process these before the person's arrived in the uk, you deny that access and they're gone. you don't have to deport them. they're already not in the uk. the current system is that people make their way to the uk, apply for asylum, get denied and never leave. yeah, but the system isn't set up to really deal with people who just want to come to the uk because, you know, for economic reasons. but this would be a step in the right direction. this would stop you having this problem of people who've made it over here and are denied asylum. what about the story that broke yesterday about the, you know, the people who were picked up in the people who were picked up in the french channel were just returned to france? >> yeah. why haven't they been doing that all along? >> because, you know. you know why? because the home office is ideologically aligned with laboun ideologically aligned with labour. so even though the tories wanted to do that, they wouldn't do it for the tories. and now that there's a

government that doesn't want to do that, they're happy to do it. okay, okay. >> well look, that's part two decimated. but do come back because we're going to be talking about queer history, feminist curriculums and migrants. see you in a

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at saturday's newspapers , so we're going to newspapers, so we're going to move on now to the guardian. what's this story? >> who's got this from? i've got this. trump is desperate to not appear racist. he's enlisted black and brown people to help him. is the coverage of the republican national convention. so last time we were on here together, i, we did spot there was a clip of trump and in the background it's very diverse selection of audience behind him. and there was a strong possibility that if you move slightly out of that camera frame, like the audience wranglers would have just moved it around. but now, not just that, they've had people like amber rose, the model and reality star, and former girlfriend of kanye west. so not only representing ethnic

diversity but also the mental issues of kanye west , that issues of kanye west, that community, the unhinged community. also, big trump fans , community. also, big trump fans, amber said trump and his supporters don't care if you're black, white, gay or straight. it's all love and i will believe you about trump. but some of his supporters come on, there are definitely some trump supporters that will not make you a gay cake. the problem with all of this, i find, is that, you know, the thing is, if he just if he just associated with with white people, he'd be called a racist. >> and now he's not associating just with white people, it's because he's pretending not to because he's pretending not to be racist. it feels like he can't actually win at this stage. >> oh yeah, it's an absolute nonsense. but i think everybody sees past it. this is just, you know, this is just left wing journalists who make probably, you know, a minimum wage. you scrambling, scrambling to try and throw the word racist out, which has been so denatured and dup, you know, it doesn't mean anything anymore. if you look at the if you look at the left, they're actually much more racist than the right. you've got critical race theory, which is an explicitly racist theory. that's that's everybody on the left believes in that. they've got the low, the bigotry of low

expectations. they've got this identitarian approach to everyone. so, you know, people are treated according to what the colour of their skin is. it's not it's not something that, you know, they've moved past the whole idea of like diversity and inclusion is a racist idea. they say, oh, but diversity brings all these different ways of thinking. it's like, what are you saying? these people think in a different way. like, that's a really racist thing to do. trump people now see, you know, the right people on the right will just accept you based on your values, based on what sort of person you are. it's a very sort of martin luther king type approach. you know, the content of your character rather than the colour of your skin. and trump has doubled his his , his amount of doubled his his, his amount of the black vote that he gets . the black vote that he gets. >> and even if it were the case, steve, that you know that there are some people who follow trump who do have racist views. isn't this quite a good thing for trump to do, to sort of say, actually, you don't get to have that if you're following me. you know, we are we have plurality. isn't that a good thing? well, i suppose they're ignoring the issues. >> i don't think he's saying you don't get to have your racist views. i think he's saying we're a broad church.

>> if you want to follow your racist views, don't reflect us. i think. >> yes. so, yeah, i mean, that's that's certainly not a bad thing. and let's remember, this is from the guardian where they do use the word racist. so often they just keep it in the buffer. so control vie puts it in. it saves typing it all the time. okay. >> we're going to move on now. more guardian now with the most guardian story. the guardian has ever guardian yeah, despair and angen >> minority groups in reform seats adjust to life after its election success. so some muslim and lgbtq+ constituents say they would feel uneasy approaching their new mps, including nigel farage. now imagine if somebody said, you know, some white middle aged guy said, oh, i wouldn't feel comfortable approaching my muslim mp. they'd be like decried as some sort of islamophobe, some bigot who, you know, you should have an open mind and speak to this, speak to this mp. i mean, they're really spinning something here. >> i mean, this is a guy who says he experienced a racist comment from some people in clacton, which i don't disbelieve, but that's got nothing to do with nigel farage, is it? >> yeah, absolutely. and they're pointing the finger at the

reform party . they're very reform party. they're very gamond phobic. and they say the interview somebody obviously the guardian were wandering around trying to find somebody who can moan about immigration and they found somebody who said, oh, nigel was talking about was immigration stopping the boats. he didn't talk about other things. i mean, he did talk about other things. england is facing big problems. immigration is not the only problem. inflation, rent bills, everything. why do you think they're all going up. you're bringing like 1.2 million people in every year. why do you think it's getting more expensive for rent? and there's not enough stuff to go around and also, you know, the chair of reform, zia yusuf, is a muslim. so, you know, reform is a very diverse organisation. >> some of this i don't buy. i mean, the idea that an lgbtq, which is a nonsense phrase anyway, but someone who's gay, basically a gay constituent , basically a gay constituent, would have a problem, would be scared of nigel farage or don't buy it. i don't think that's real. >> and there's no evidence in here. if it can be asserted without evidence, it can be refuted without evidence. arjun, they've changed his name, so i don't know why they picked that one. that's interesting. but they changed. he's experienced abuse in the seaside town last yeah abuse in the seaside town last year. all right, so that's so

farage wasn't even there. so if anything, if you're looking at the evidence somehow farage has made it less racist for this quy- >> guy- >> we've seen 100% quy- >> we've seen 100% drop in. >> we've seen 100% drop in. >> it's a nonsense article. i mean, the guardian just needs to stop. yeah. like really? what's the point of it? oh, come. >> this will be a half hour show if the guardian stopped. >> yeah. and although the far left pressure groups are secretly far right. >> so groups like reform are trying to, you know, just put a slight break of net zero migration to slow it down a little bit so we don't reach the point where there's civil war, whereas, you know, the far left, far left pressure groups are infiltrated by the far right and want to accelerate it. yeah, yeah. >> that's right. okay. let's move on now to the independent. it's bad news for students looking to get a degree in grievance studies. steve, you got an msc in drag history, didn't you? >> yeah, i did proper degrees, proper science. >> you're not one of these mickey mouse. >> yeah, not if you're not studying a science. you're doing a hobby. goldsmiths. margaret thatcher quietly. well, she was

a chemist as well. yeah, yeah, yeah, there. we don't have a lot in common, goldsmiths accused of quietly killing off queer and black history degrees. this was a master's degree, which let's be a master's degree in black history. where? at the end of it, you have to call someone master. there's. there's a whole thing to dig down into there, isn't it, the allegations came to light when doctor justin to light when doctorjustin bengry, the course director of queer history , has been made queer history, has been made redundant. but the university itself says they're still doing the course. so the whole story is they're getting rid of this course. the people providing you've been fired, that's what that's what it is. >> but also, i would have thought, leo, like, if i go for a job and i say, oh, well, i've got an ma in queer history. >> welcome to the guardian. >> welcome to the guardian. >> i mean, that's it. that's my. i'm limited to the guardian and the bbc, aren't i? >> yeah, yeah, pretty much. or any government organisation. and luckily the amount of, the size of government organisations continues to creep up as we drift into communism. but this, this masters in queer history boasts of having huge cultural importance . it's giving a voice importance. it's giving a voice to those who, throughout much of history , have been denied one. history, have been denied one. well, not anymore. i mean,

jesus, do we ever hear from anybody else? i mean, every advert, every i can't turn around without. >> the thing is, it is true that gay people historically have been denied voices. their texts have been destroyed all sorts. they've been actually burned at the stake, let's face it. but the stake, let's face it. but the thing is, that was a long time ago, and it's covered in history. yeah, like , you know, history. yeah, like, you know, you don't. it's not like if you study history, you just ignore all the gay people in history. otherwise we wouldn't know anything about alexander the great. >> well, and the film about cracking the enigma code would have been a lot shorter. >> wouldn't it be a much shorter film? >> but, so this course only started in 2020, and they're the only university to provide it. so maybe that speaks to the success and demand for it. there's a change.org petition that says we must not forget the importance of knowing these lesser known elements of british history for everybody. it's not everybody. it's a master's course, like, by definition, quite elite. >> okay, we're going to move on now to the telegraph. leo, what is this about a feminist professor going to rewrite the curriculum? yeah. >> so, more from the world of education. a feminist professor will lead a shake—up of the national curriculum for schools in england. the government has

announced. professor becky francis, the chief executive of a learning charity, the education endowment foundation, will chair a wholesale review of the school syllabus to breathe new life into our outdated curriculum. yeah, i mean, this is good because there's not enough far left feminist ideology in our national curriculum. >> there's a lot of quotes in this article. quotations. sorry. talking about, you know, how girls need to be sort of bolstered at schools and all the rest of it. girls have been outperforming boys for decades in schools. i'm not sure what this is about, but steve isn't the worry, and this has been a concern that what the labour government would do is they would rewrite the national curriculum to sort of bring in their ideology, this sort of very woke, identitarian ideology for schools to adopt the curriculum, including academies, which is what this article says . which is what this article says. isn't this i mean, our fears are unfounded, that we might get this sort of very regressive identitarian , anti—liberal ideas identitarian, anti—liberal ideas being seeped into schools. >> i'm starting to sweat. i'm getting to worry because the aim of this bringing academies under the same curriculum i was all for. and in this article, it

talks about how they want to reform it to give people. and i was thinking like poor working class kids a better chance of education. and i hope the person they've brought in to deliver it can. but feminist professor becky francis are words that worry me. but if the aim of this is to get more girls doing stem subjects, good because that's fewer of them doing sociology and all these kind of things that seem to lead down this path. >> and to be fair, it doesn't say intersectional feminist professor. and that is a key difference, leo, but it kind of feel like the language is just changing because they say, the specialises in education inequalities and gender stereotypes in the classroom. >> and that to me just sounds like they want to, well, not ineqtu like they want to, well, not inequity though, you know. >> you know what i mean. so yeah, yeah, yeah. it might be the case that she has a, you know, a good head on her shoulders. and she isn't one of these crazed activist loons. let's hope. hey, let's hope that's part three. done and dusted. coming up in the final section, we've odorous celebrities, a kind of rehab, and a good old fashioned

welcome back to headliners. your first look at saturday's newspapers. we're going to jump straight back in with the mirror now, leo, could this be the end of civilisation ? at least we'll of civilisation? at least we'll be going down swinging. >> so thousands descend on sleepy village for britain's biggest swingers festival called swing a thon i love swings, yeah, they're great fun. yeah. give me a push. higher, higher. it's so much fun. the four day wait. sex and fetish event . this wait. sex and fetish event. this is nothing to do with swinging at all. so it's in this. they're having a sex and fetish event in a quaint hamlet in the uk countryside, and residents have complained about screaming and moaning because they're doing all this bdsm like whipping. and you know, well, you know, sex stuff. >> this, this is the kind of thing i imagine takes place in quiet hamlets. i mean, why else would you live in a hamlet? >> yeah. and if you're not keeping people awake with your screaming, you're doing it wrong. yeah. so you might as well get involved. there's two events there. one is the fetish one, and they've got loads of different acts. i think acts they've got still aukus. unless there's a skirt involved in nothing else. why do you want

people on stilts? you're there for the fetish, but they are hiring comedians. oh really? how have i not been booked? >> oh, you should have been booked. >> i would have a great. >> i would have a great. >> you've got a lot of relevant material, you know, you should give it a go. i get stuck, no one's breaking the law. so a bit of a non—story. metro. next. steve it's not just modern films that are stinking up hollywood. >> yeah, another non—story. more hollywood stars come forward. come forward. confirming we don't wear deodorant. this is because kate hudson revealed that neither she nor matthew mcconaughey wear deodorant. he admitted that in an interview. anyway, in 2021. >> so what is my response to that? >> yeah, he kind of looks like he doesn't as well. do you know what i mean? he looks like he's fresh out the surf. this guy doesn't i don't wear deodorant. >> you don't need to. you're right. but you don't need to. like if you don't if you don't wear it, your body just naturally doesn't smell. >> and also, apparently deodorant is bad for you because the particles, like, block your pores. >> so then the antiperspirant, then the oh, is it different? >> was that a different thing? >> was that a different thing? >> so antiperspirant blocks the pores specifically to stop you sweating. that's has like aluminium and stuff in it. and you're meant to wear that in the night before to block the pores

properly for the morning. >> i wear a perfume created by monks and that works perfectly well. >> i drink a wine created by monks. >> do you buckfast? >> do you buckfast? >> buckfast? yes. great. >> buckfast? yes. great. >> grim stuff . okay, let's move >> grim stuff. okay, let's move on now. the times. leo. and could an anti flab fad jab send you mad lads to rehab. yeah. >> so patients patients are checking into rehab after abusing weight loss jabs. so luxury treatment centres have seen a rise in patients suffering from disordered eating and addiction following treatment with a zembic and mounjaro, which i assume is another zembic type thing. so people are abusing the medication they're getting, but they don't really need it. they're using too much, they're getting side effects such as shakiness. and also after they ceased treatment, they're having binge eating attacks. and i know from people that i know who uses zembic, they're not like, if you do it, you've also got to like stop eating. you've got to stop being a you know, stop eating like a pig and also go to the gym, stop being lazy. this is why you're fat in the first place. because you eat too much. because you're a pig and you don't go to the gym. >> it's an appetite suppressant, though. i mean, that's the

thing. it's supposed to stop. but the thing is, people eat through it. there are no long term studies about the possible consequences of ozempic. and so it could potentially be dangerous. so we shouldn't really be surprised, should we, that there are problems. >> it could also potentially not be dangerous. and early studies say it might be linked to a lower chance of getting things like alzheimer's, because the way that it changes your body, there's i've listened to loads of podcasts on this. there's not many risks associated so far. yeah if you're going to be asserted without evidence, it can be refuted without evidence. but what i like about this is there's a guy who's interviewed because he's got some clinic and he said even though they don't have any patients who've turned up with issues with ozempic, you know, some they've used some other drugs. so there's not even good studies about this actual story. the problem is, if you're fat, it's okay to use it. the people who aren't fat using it, that's clearly wrong. >> well, no, but there's people who are lying when they're applying to get the drugs about their weight, and they're actually quite thin already. yeah, that can't be good. >> yeah. a lot of people, i mean, i guess with social media and everything, people are really body conscious. but i'm not always the right people. >> okay. and now we're going to move on to this story. this is in the guardian. we're going back to the time of acid house.

it's your favourite era, steve. oh yeah. >> and var show takes ravers old and new back to early uk acid house scene. no need. they still get the flashbacks . a smoke get the flashbacks. a smoke alarm goes off, they hear the beat, they're throwing some shapes. oh it's called in pursuit of repetitive beats. set in the west midlands. you embark on this eight city tour. it's official the 1990s are retro again, which is good. i've waited for that. it feels like the 80s have been retro for over a decade. that's unfair, yes, but now finally people are going , but now finally people are going, oh, the 90s, weren't they great? no. good. are you a fan of this kind of thing, leo? >> very quickly. >> very quickly. >> well, yeah, i grew up in the 90s, but i don't think the noughfies 90s, but i don't think the noughties will ever be retro because they didn't have any character. nothing really happened. >> that's a very good point. well, that is all we've got time for, but let's have a quick look at saturday's front pages before we go. they're all running with pretty much the same story. the daily mail has got global it meltdown shows peril of going cashless. the telegraph holidays in chaos after global it meltdown. the times has it companies error could be terminal for getaways. the mirror has a day. the world stood still the express how on

earth did digital pandemic paralyse the world? and the daily star is leading with the same story. but they go with the headune same story. but they go with the headline computer says no, that is all we've got. time for, i'm afraid for tonight's show. but thanks ever so much to my wonderful panel. leo kearse and steve n allen, headliners, of course, is back tomorrow at 11:00 with steve in the hot seat with paul cox and adam kumars. and by the way, if you're watching the 5 am, repeat, and by the way, if you're watching the 5 am, repeat , then watching the 5 am, repeat, then please do stay tuned because now it's please do stay tuned because now wsfime please do stay tuned because now it's time for breakfast. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news, weather update brought to you from the met office. humid and cloudy through saturday, but as we head into sunday, it's looking mostly dry but considerably fresher than today. that's because weather fronts are moving in from the north and west, and behind that we've got much cooler air arriving through saturday. before then, though, a humid

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>> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . christys tonight. >> well, this is going. amy. chelsea say reform . chelsea say reform. >> look, look, look. the police are just looking. glass if you look at them running. >> why did police and the fire bngade >> why did police and the fire brigade run in fear at the leeds riots? and what ? oh, what does riots? and what? oh, what does it say about britain that so many people are ready to riot ? many people are ready to riot? >> also stop illegal migration. >> also stop illegal migration. >> we must also tackle it at source . soui’ce. >> source. >> so today i am announcing £84 million of new funding . million of new funding. >> great. so starmer thinks that sending £84 million to africa will stop the boats . well, i will stop the boats. well, i don't think that would have stopped this lot today, do you? plus . big stopped this lot today, do you? plus. big debate tonight is david lammy right to give money

to a un aid agency in gaza accused of helping hamas terrorists ? terrorists? >> also, this is a crisis for our party and if we don't realise the enormity of the problem and fundamentally change, we will have no chance of fixing it. >> rumours. rumours everywhere that suella braverman is about to defect to reform. could it happen this weekend? >> i named a, the secretary of defence. the black man? >> yeah . the other rumour was >> yeah. the other rumour was that joe biden would stand down this weekend, but apparently he's not going anywhere. and go go he's not going anywhere. and go 9° 9° 9° 9° he's not going anywhere. and go go go go go . sunbed wars. find go go go go. sunbed wars. find out what punishment sunlounger hogging brits could face this summer. on the panel tonight it is x bbc and itv political chief john sergeant political commentator suzanne evans and novara media's michael walker. oh yes. and what happens next here? >> what a display of sprinting

from the young britain. >> get ready britain, here we go . >> get ready britain, here we go. how is paying for a school in eritrea going to stop the boats . next? >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00. your headlines. the boss of cyber security firm crowdstrike, which is responsible for worldwide it outages, admits it could be some time before all systems are back up and running. time before all systems are back up and running . more than 3000 up and running. more than 3000 flights at many of the world's airports have been grounded since early this morning, with airlines unable to complete check ins. banks supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among the many who were knocked

off line. those travelling by rail were also affected, with transpennine express, thameslink and southern among those who reported disruption. crowdstrike ceo says it's not related to a security incident or a cyber attack. in other news, the home secretary has branded violent disorder that broke out on the streets of leeds as audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested after trouble flared in the harehills area last night. vehicles were set ablaze and a police car overturned late last night with residents warned to stay indoors as helicopters and large police presence responded to the chaos . presence responded to the chaos. it's understood the riots were unked it's understood the riots were linked to local children being taken into care, yvette cooper says. those responsible for violent disorder in leeds should feel the full force of the law. >> been to talking west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder

and criminality that we