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headlines with tamsin roberts. >> dawn, thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's 12:01. holidaymakers are being warned to expect ongoing disruption as the fallout from yesterday's global it outage continues. flight delays are continuing as airports and other businesses slowly get back online. it comes as thousands of families start their summer holidays as schools break up banks, supermarkets. most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among the many others who were also knocked off line yesterday. the glitches were caused by security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft windows software . gb microsoft windows software. gb news can reveal that britain's border force seized a yacht in the english channel this morning, carrying a group of migrants attempting to cross illegally from france. well, if you're watching on tv, you can

see this footage , which was see this footage, which was obtained exclusively by gb news, showing the small 18 foot yacht as it was towed into dover's harbour by the border force. our producer counted 86 migrants disembarking from the force's vessel. it comes as hundreds of other small boat migrants launch from the beaches of northern france , the third busiest day of france, the third busiest day of illegal crossings in a row. pay increases in the public sector could cost around £10 billion, according to the institute for fiscal studies. independent pay review bodies are reportedly set to recommend pay rises of 5.5% for teachers and nhs staff. schools and hospitals are unlikely to be able to meet the increase with their existing budgets without making cuts. it's thought to be more than the government had been preparing for, which could represent a significant challenge for rachel reeves first budget. the race is on to become the next leader of

the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party and influential within the party and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warned that the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards the hard right and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government. former cabinet minister steve baker told gb news why he thinks tom tugendhat is the ideal candidate. >> you have to build a broad coalition which is on board for some robustly conservative things and tom, as somebody being seen from the left, is, i believe, the right person to do robustly conservative things with a tone that can attract everyone. but you're right, he's going to need to prove to everyone that he is a true blue conservative willing to press in the direction of freedom under the direction of freedom under the law . the law. >> the home secretary says violent disorder that erupted on the streets of leeds was

audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested in connection with the angry scenes in the harehills area on thursday, vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was overturned. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children, who were taken into care. yvette cooper says those responsible will be brought to justice. >> i've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident, but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets, and also that the perpetrators feel the full force of the law. >> a new report by a think tank is calling for britain's old and neglected phone boxes to be removed . create streets says removed. create streets says there's little need for the old

phone boxes, which have rarely been used over the past 20 years and often attract vandalism. it says laws should be changed to make it easier for councils to remove what it's called box blight , but remove what it's called box blight, but the remove what it's called box blight , but the report remove what it's called box blight, but the report is careful to draw a distinction between the old boxes and the classic red booths, many of which are listed well. clouds and cooler weather are back this weekend after yesterday's sweltering conditions brought the hottest day of the year so far. the met office says temperatures reached 31.9 degrees in central london, but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today. but don't worry, some good news. meteorologists say the warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. weather could be back just in time for the end of july . let's time for the end of july. let's see. those are the gb news headunes see. those are the gb news headlines for now. i'm back in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward

slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, tamsin. right, let's get straight into today's story, shall we? now? yes. let's start with the tories. we'd almost forgotten about them, hadn't we? tory mp suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect to reform uk if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest. the former home secretary is reportedly struggling to garner enough support from within her party to get the top job. sources from both sides now expect to her jump both sides now expect to her jump ship, but will she? i mean, we've heard all this from the tories before, haven't we? they've had more leaders and i've had hot dinners, to be honest with you. joining me now is gb. news, political correspondent olivia utley to explain. yet another wrangling for that top job in the tory party olivia, what's going on this time? >> well, sorry to pour cold water on quite an exciting theory, but i think it is very

unlikely that suella braverman defects to reform. there are a few people in both the reform party and the conservative party who say that she will, but i think on the whole those are just sort of mischief makers. the rumour comes from the fact that over the course of the general election campaign, suella braverman repeatedly said that she thought that that nigel farage should join the conservative party, that she thought the two parties should augn thought the two parties should align themselves more closely. but that was very much about reform joining the conservatives rather than conservatives like her joining rather than conservatives like herjoining reform. it is true that she is struggling to garner much support from within the conservative party for her bid for the leadership. when she ran in the leadership with that ended with liz truss becoming prime minister, she did have quite a lot of support. she was supported by people like danny kruger and miriam cates , sort of kruger and miriam cates, sort of old fashioned conservatives, if you like. this time , miriam you like. this time, miriam cates isn't even an mp. and danny kruger has said that he will be supporting robert jenrick, who was the immigration minister under suella braverman and who also resigned when she

did about rishi sunak's refusal to talk about leaving the european court of human rights. i think it is quite unlikely that suella braverman makes it onto the final two of the conservative leadership ballot papen conservative leadership ballot paper, mainly because tom tugendhat is sort of, rightly or wrongly, considered a kind of centrist in the party. i think that there's a bit too much, actually, of a he has a bit too much reputation for being a kind of leftie. i don't think that's that's true at all. well everything that he's said shows that he is a sort of traditional conservative, but he is perhaps a bit more to the centre than most of the others. most of the others are very much on the right of the party. you've got suella braverman, you've got robert jenrick, you've got priti patel. there's going to be a lot of jostling for that final place on the leadership ballot. and i just don't think that suella braverman has the popularity to make it. >> she has come out and denied this story as well, hasn't she? she said there is, you know, it's not going to be happening. but i mean, you know, things change very quickly in the conservative party. >> things change. and i suppose it is. but i do think it's very unlikely that she defects to reform. but, you know, there is

a scenario where she does go for the leadership and gets embarrassingly few votes and feels a bit peeved that the party doesn't support her anymore. and then, perhaps out of kind of embarrassment and out of kind of embarrassment and out of a lot of wooing from nigel farage and lee anderson, who i'm sure would love to see her join sure would love to see herjoin reform, perhaps she could cross the floor, maybe rather be a big fish in a small pond and a small fish in a small pond and a small fish in a big pond. for now, though, i think it looks unlikely and kemi badenoch is almost twice as much support among conservative members as any of the other potential leaders, hasn't she? >> i mean, so smart money is on her. >> yes, i've left her out of the of the list of sort of on the right of centre conservative mps who might be running. but yes, she is popular among conservative members. the issue that kemi might have is that she's known as a little bit of a, what's the word ? aggressive a, what's the word? aggressive is perhaps putting it too strongly, but perhaps a slightly tetchy character, and in press conferences she snaps at

journalists a little bit. yes, she did. >> the other day, didn't she? >> the other day, didn't she? >> she did. and she does do it quite often. and she's she sort of falls out with people quite easily. people who work closest with her have always said that she's she's lovely to work with. but having that reputation, she's not exactly clubbable and that could mean that she, she does, although she has the support of, the party membership, she doesn't make it to the final two among mps. >> when do they have to decide? i mean, they're losing money hand over fist at the moment, aren't they haemorrhaging £1 million a month, until they get a leadership and a direction of travel for the party in general. >> well, that's a very good question. it sounds as though it's all going to be sorted by the conservative party conference. conservative mps. i've spoken to, which is in october, early october, don't don't want to sort of rush into the leadership election. they think that, you know, they need some time to think. and for once, they have the luxury of being in opposition. so it doesn't matter quite as much who the leader of the opposition is as it matters who the who the

prime minister is. so they're giving themselves a little bit of a breather. that said, as you say, they are losing money, hand over fist. and there are plenty of conservatives i've spoken to, including the now most senior conservative in the country, ben houchen, the mayor for the west midlands, who say, well , why not midlands, who say, well, why not hurry up? most of the people who are who are going to be standing, we know basically everything there is to know about them. they've all almost or almost all run before or held senior positions in, in cabinet. they're all senior conservatives. we know what the campaign is going to sound like. why not just get on with it? >> and yeah, yeah, well , that's >> and yeah, yeah, well, that's a phrase we have heard a lot in politics. this reason just get on with it. just get on with it. oh, right. i'm going to bring in my lovely panellist now, emma burnell, emma , do we even care burnell, emma, do we even care anymore? who leads the conservative party? has to be the obvious question here. they feel a bit like yesterday's people at the moment . people at the moment. >> they do feel like a sideshow, and that's always going to be the case when you have not just a new government, but new government with a very, very big majority taking over, what i

would say, having been through this on the other side of the aisle, in 2010, labour went long with its leadership contest and what that meant was that the narrative, there's no money left. labour crashed the economy just became so settled by the time labour had a leading spokesperson in ed miliband to take over, that it was just it was it was accepted as read. and if the tories i mean, you know, far be it from me to give the tories good advice. but, if they do, you can give advice if they do, you can give advice if they do take the summer. and we all said, oh , we've got the luxury said, oh, we've got the luxury of taking our time, we're in opposition. we're so far from power now. let's, give it give ourselves the time and the space. the people you're giving time and space to are the people with the biggest pulpit at the moment, which is the government. and they are wasting no time, quite rightly, in saying this is why we have all these problems. this is why the prisons are overstuffed. this is why we don't have the money to do

everything we want and that narrative is very much being set in, in, in place. and they will find that that narrative won't stop when they have a new leader , stop when they have a new leader, because it's so embedded by that point. so they will find it harder and harder. and i think all parties go into opposition thinking it will be a one term thing. we can get our act together, come back roaring . together, come back roaring. actually, if you look, we talk a lot about the volatility of voters and how, voters are more volatile than they've ever been. and that is probably true. i'm not denying that as a theory, but actually, 14 years, 13 years, 18 years, that's how long the last three parties of government, if not leaders of government, if not leaders of government, have lasted . so government, have lasted. so underlying that volatility is the fact that voters do give parties a decent decade or so of time to do what they want to do. >> and do you think suella braverman could end up going to

reform if she has a nose ? reform if she has a nose? >> i don't know, i've never met suella braverman. i don't know suella braverman. i don't know suella braverman. i don't know suella braverman from adam. she strikes me as somebody who is quite impulsive, and quite attention seeking. and if that is the thing that will get her the headline in the moment, it may be a decision. she makes. i think both she and reform might come to regret it, because reform already has a very big character in nigel farage, pretty big character in lee anderson, pretty big character in richard tice, and what they don't really have is the ground troops, the quiet ground troops, if they bring in another big attention seeking character at the top, that's just going to lead to more and more people thinking, well, hang on, i could do this better. or, you know, why aren't i the leader? >> well, anything's possible these days in politics, isn't it, emma? you've just talked yourself into a job there, i think. thank you very much. oh, god.

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thank you for messaging. right. okay, now let's go to america, shall we? us president joe biden has insisted he will stay in the presidential race, despite calls from 30 senior democrats to quit . from 30 senior democrats to quit. the ailing leader said he looked forward to return to the campaign trail next week, as he vowed to win that election. oh well, if you think our politics are mad? welcome to america, folks. right. joining me now is spokesperson for republican overseas , jennifer ewing. overseas, jennifer ewing. jennhen overseas, jennifer ewing. jennifer, thank you so much for joining us. this afternoon. jennheni joining us. this afternoon. jennifer, i say this every time we talk to you. our politics frankly can be mad, but yours really can be insane. i mean, we're hearing from the states at the moment. there could be a chance that biden could go this weekend. what do you make of what you're hearing? i mean, i've been somebody that's thought he has to go for over yeah >>i yeah >> i mean, if you watch the cognitive decline, which i know your channel has, has covered, but a lot of people haven't until that debate two weeks ago. so now everyone's scrambling around. there was not a plan for

him to go because i think they thought they could get away with it. and now that they haven't, you're seeing so much infighting within the democratic party. you've got the elder statesman leaning on him with this high pressure , sort of campaign. pressure, sort of campaign. you've got, as you mentioned , you've got, as you mentioned, you know, 30 plus congresspeople. coming out, you've got a lot of the big donors saying they will hold back money they've promised. so they are in a terrible situation, you know, if with regards to the question of does he go this week, it's possible, netanyahu, i believe, is supposed to meet with them this week . so does he want to do it week. so does he want to do it right before then? and also , right before then? and also, he's got so much, his wife, his son hunter, his brother and sister and some of the ultra ultra insiders do not want him to go. so and actually, what's interesting is a lot of people on the republican side, a lot of punst on the republican side, a lot of pundits and media people are coming out saying, hey, he was democratically elected by the

democratic voters in their primary. that wasn't a real primary. that wasn't a real primary. and you can't push him overboard . that would be overboard. that would be undemocratic because quite frankly, we want to run against him because we'll beat him. >> well, yeah, that's the thing. i mean, the even the obamas and the clintons now, who were big supporters are looking at the polls and thinking maybe it is time to maybe have kamala harris instead. do you think, that biden will be listening to, you know, i mean, he was obama's vice president for eight years, wasn't he ? do you think he'll be wasn't he? do you think he'll be listening to obama? >> actually, john, i think it's the opposite. there is no love lost between the, the bidens and the obamas and the clintons . the the obamas and the clintons. the bidens feel that the obamas and clintons never really respected joe biden. so i think they're just digging their heels in more. and the biden's digging their heels in more, saying you're not going to push me out. we know that that, that op ed piece that george clooney, of all people wrote a few weeks ago , all people wrote a few weeks ago, he ran that by obama before it

was published. and, you know, that came three weeks after he held a massive fundraiser for biden . so, again, they're all biden. so, again, they're all over the place. it's an it's not an enviable position. the other thing to consider , speaking of thing to consider, speaking of donors and money is in order for the hundreds of millions of dollars that they've raised on the democratic side to to, stay with the ticket, joe has to accept a nomination with kamala on the ticket, and then he could step down and they would keep the money that way. so that is, i think, why a lot of people are starting to talk about kamala harris, even though, i mean, she's less popular than he is. i mean , she is way less popular, mean, she is way less popular, the only thing i would say is she has on her side is she has youth. but but that's about it. those two are. we'd love to run against either one. >> that's great. jenniferjung, >> that's great. jennifer jung, thank you very much for bringing us up to date on american politics. and if we do hear anything on the biden situation, we'll let you know. of course, let's see what my panel make of the situation in america. i'm

joined by a political consultant and playwright , joined by a political consultant and playwright, emma burnell still, and leader of the heritage party , david curtin. heritage party, david curtin. thank you very much for joining us, david, and thank you for staying. emma, as i keep saying, david, american politics makes ours look quite sane, doesn't it? what do you make of this whole biden situation? should he stay or should he go? will he go? well, he should have gone a long time ago. >> you know, i think there was an article in the american constitution. i think it's the 27th amendment. if my memory serves me right. but forgive me if i'm wrong, that says if a president is not capable of doing the job 25th. okay thank you, then he can be ousted . you, then he can be ousted. >> you know, they can get get rid of him in a humane way, if you like, and put in the deputy president will take over. >> that should have happened a long, long time ago. >> because his cognitive decline is clear. i mean, he's clearly not up to the job. he's making mistakes all over the place. >> he's bumbling around. >> he's bumbling around. >> you know, you saw him at the nato summit going off looking at the sky when he was supposed to be in the photograph. >> he went to kiss the wrong

woman the other day, which was , woman the other day, which was, well, you hope it was a mistake as opposed to just randomly kissing another blonde. >> but it's sad, i think, to see someone very sad, you know? >> i mean, i really disagree with all of his policies, pretty much. >> you mean politically , i don't >> you mean politically, i don't have any sympathy for him, but but as a person , he's clearly but as a person, he's clearly got dementia and he clearly should be retired. >> and, you know, left to be attended to and be cared for, not to be kept in the job of the president of the united states because some people have wanted to keep him there for their own ends, i imagine. >> yes. emma, what do you make of it? i mean, obviously the american elections coming up in november. that would be another five year term. i mean, joe biden's 81, four year term, she's read her american politics, but big west, big fan here. oh, that's that's i thought it was serious research, but i mean, that would mean he's 81 now. it's going to be 85. yeah. >> look, i find it quite, quite heartbreaking if i'm honest. i disagree with david in terms of

biden's political approach. i think a lot of what he's done in the, in the inflation reduction act, things like that, i think have been really, really good. i think they've made quite a significant difference to the american economy. the problem is, is that any kind of massive structural thing like that, it's very hard to feel immediate impacts from. but he's not the man he once was. and part of the problem with the biden story has been that if you look at 25, 30, 40 year old footage of biden, he did make mistakes back then. so it was very, very easy. and i'm as guilty of this as anybody else to go . well, he's always else to go. well, he's always flubbed things. he's always made mistakes . the flubbed things. he's always made mistakes. the problem flubbed things. he's always made mistakes . the problem now flubbed things. he's always made mistakes. the problem now is that it's not just the occasional mistake that was quite obviously just a flub. it is. it does seem much more structural now . i'm not going to structural now. i'm not going to diagnose him from afar. i don't know what it is that is wrong, but he is, you know, in his 80s.

he's not the young man, that that went to the senate. scranton, joe, all those years ago. and it just isn't okay. frankly that america is having a presidential contest between a 78 year old and an 81 year old. >> it does seem the entire population, not a country that should be a gerontocracy you shouldn't like, you know , shouldn't like, you know, disparage all old people and say that someone's in their 80s. >> well, then they need to be retired. i don't agree with that. i mean, as you said, trump is 78 and he's full of life. he's fit as a fiddle. >> i mean, if he's going to be, he's going to be. just a minute. i haven't finished. >> he's he will be an excellent president if he's re—elected again for a second term, i think he will undo a lot of the bad things that biden has done. he's going to get drilling oil again to regenerate america's economy. >> he's going to was another thing. >> yeah. he's yeah, it will control the borders of america because that is a huge issue in the united states as it is in the united states as it is in the united states as it is in the united kingdom. >> and president trump said he will end the war in ukraine within 24 hours because he can

sit down with the people and stop the slaughter there. >> and i think that's a very, very good thing. whereas biden has continued it and escalated it, and that's been dreadful. so you know, i don't think just because someone is old, we should write them off because, you know, trump is clearly in a different league to biden and he's ready for action. >> well, i mean , i think trump >> well, i mean, i think trump is slightly different. i mean, his response when he was shot was the perfect political response. i'm going to absolutely. he's a showman 100. i totally give him that. if you watch his long, rambling speech, i think he's not quite as with it as he might have been himself 20 years ago. and i just don't think that politicians should have to get into that late part of life before they can get to the top of the game. and that, i think, is the problem with the american system. it's that you have to get to a point where you've been in the senate for that long to have built those connections, to have been able to raise the kind of money that you need to get to the presidency . palmer was an presidency. palmer was an incredible one off because he was so young. he was young.

>> yeah, yeah. and we were running out of time on this one. and if we're applying age limits to the house of lords is in trouble for a start. >> well, indeed. >> well, indeed. >> yes, exactly. right. okay. we're running out of time. unfortunately, on that one, i'm dawn neesom gb news salah al—din. there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, let's get the news headlines with tamsin roberts. >> don, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 1230, while those heading off on holiday are being warned to expect disruption as the fallout from yesterday's global it outage continues, flight delays are continuing as airports and other businesses slowly get back online. it comes as thousands of families start their summer holidays as schools break up the glitches were caused by a security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft's windows software . microsoft's windows software. pay increases in the public sector could cost around £10 billion, according to the institute for fiscal studies.

independent pay review bodies are reportedly set to recommend pay are reportedly set to recommend pay rises of 5.5% for teachers and nhs staff, but it's thought to be more than the government had been preparing for, which could represent a significant challenge for rachel reeves first budget. the race is on to become the next leader of the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party and influential within the party and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warn the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards the hard right and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government clouds and cooler weather are back this weekend after yesterday's sweltering conditions brought the hottest day of the year, so far. but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today . but if

south—west england today. but if you weren't able to get to the beach yesterday, don't worry. some good news. meteorologists say the warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. and finally, just a bit of breaking news to bring you six time world snooker champion ray reardon has died at the age of 91. that news just into us now here, ray reardon has died at the age of 91, and we'll have more reaction to that news later on in the programme. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, tamsin. now remember let us know all your thoughts on the stories we're discussing today or anything you want to talk about. basically, the message was lit up already, some of them even

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main thing that happened in those airports were display screens, etc, went down and they basically switched to manual. so we have city of derry airport, the main international airport in aldergrove on this one, on george best in belfast . now the george best in belfast. now the delays that are coming along the line are actually coming from planes coming back to in northern ireland. planes that have been very much held up somewhere else around the world. but because our systems here are very small, our networks are very small, our networks are very small, our networks are very small , very small, our networks are very small, it's easier to reboot them and get them back online, but that brings a problem to one big system. and that's the national health, the health service here were badly affected by gps. things like imaging, digital imaging. anybody waiting for a laparoscopy or anything like that that was set off. so really , that that was set off. so really, if you're looking for a prescription, you would have to go to the doctor. they couldn't print it. they couldn't link to their networks. i mean, even i

was yesterday in a chemist's in belfast and had to produce cash of course the tills wouldn't work. and then that brings problems down the line when it comes to stock control then, because of course, when you buy something in a chemist or a shop, it not only takes your money, it registers that that has went out of stock. so that will be a little while getting back together . but the back together. but the commercial industries in northern ireland, the big manufacturers, i spoke to those last night and lots of them. not too keen to tell me how badly they had been affected by those supply chains. >> thank you very much. that's dougie beattie bringing us up to date on the i feel for it fallout, which is affecting still so many airports in particular and travel plans obviously busy weekend with the schools starting their holidays and people trying to get away. now let's see what my panel make of this are still have emma and david kirton with me, david, what do you make of this? i mean, it was it frightened me this week to be honest with you because i feel like i've seen

this movie where everything goes down at the same time across the world, and we are so reliant on tech.i world, and we are so reliant on tech. i mean, too much. so, yeah, it's extraordinary, isn't it? >> and it's interesting you say that because there have been a lot of movies that are predicting this. it's almost like predictive programming, isn't it? we've had klaus schwab in the world economic forum and people like that saying there's going to be a cyber pandemic and it's going to make the covid era look like child's play . and this look like child's play. and this was predicted. this is going to happen. >> there's all game planning going on for this. >> so, you know, this was on the cards. you wonder whether it was a real accident or whether it was planned in some way because it is a completely extraordinary that a company that is linked to microsoft would have released a patch without testing it , to patch without testing it, to make sure that they knew what it would do. >> it was a bit weird, but this is this is an error. this is a mistake. but this company that released it are so powerful and have so many big, important blue chip companies, which is why it affected everybody so much . what affected everybody so much. what do you make of it, emma? do you find it as terrifying as i did? >> i do find it very, very

worrying. i mean, i don't buy into, you know, it was a deliberate thing or anything because what company would. so publicly screw the pooch like this? >> it's a company that's been only going 13 years, and they are very successful. they've. >> yeah, they're very successful. now, i suspect their stock price has plummeted somewhat. >> it didn't do very much for their shares, >> so i just but but it just shows once again. and we saw this with supply chains during covid. we saw this you know we are so interdependent as a world. now we've seen this with energy prices after the ukraine war. and afterwards sorry during but after the beginning of the ukraine war, we are a very , very ukraine war, we are a very, very interconnected world and we outsource an awful lot of that interconnectedness to small, private enterprise with very little regulation, very little, oversight of the influence that they have over our lives. and thatis they have over our lives. and that is worrying in a way, because, you know, if this

company is based in a country with no kind of oversight over what they do or don't release into this patch, they release it into this patch, they release it into this patch in the country into this patch in the country in which they're incorporated. but we all suffer from northern ireland to australia. >> yeah, it really was , talking >> yeah, it really was, talking talking of one of the, one of the issues with this is so many of us are now working from home, and it has to be rebooted on each individual thing. that's why it's been taking so many systems so long to get up. but that brings us on to our next subject. are we a nation of lazy brits? are we actually working from home or are we just at home? downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off. that's ignore any phone calls or emails from your bosses. labour intends to, literally ban bosses from bothering workers. i don't know how they're going to do it, but thatis how they're going to do it, but that is when you've signed off for the day , your boss will no for the day, your boss will no longer be allowed to contact you ehheh longer be allowed to contact you either. they'll be breaking some sort of contract. quite how it works. devil's in the details as

always, so i mean , david, back always, so i mean, david, back to you on this one. lazar, how is this going to work? we all know we all joke about keir starmer saying, right, i'm having friday evenings off, i think he was joking. but how is this going to work? so as soon as you clock off for the day, that's it. your boss can't bother you? from what i understand, this isn't going to be made law. >> it's not going to be on the statute like it is in some countries. they do have mentioned in the king's speech. >> was it? that's for sure. >> was it? that's for sure. >> yeah. so i understand france and belgium actually have a law. it's written in there. if you contact your workers after going home time, it's illegal and you can be fined for that. i don't think that's what they're going to say. they're going to bring in in the uk. they are mentioning putting it into the employers codes of conduct, which wouldn't have the force of law. but there would just be recommending and hoping that employers do this. i mean, it is a good idea for some people in some sectors, but to try to bnng some sectors, but to try to bring it in, you know, on a blanket level for everybody isn't going to work. i mean, if you are salaried, for example,

or if you are a contractor, you're going to be contacted and speaking to people who pay your bills and work with your business, you know, 24 hours a day. if you have to be on call all the time. i mean, for the people who are maybe in these jobs where they work from home and they manage data or they take calls or so on, you know, like call centre work can be outsourced to people in homes now. yes maybe for those people, it is it's a good thing. i mean, i don't imagine that they're called too much anyway by their bosses. so the people that are in those situations, it might help some of them, but not too many. so i wonder if this is just, you know, a bit of virtue signalling as a, as a sort of thought of an announcement. >> i mean, in theory, as david said, it is good for mental health that you do switch off, but how many people actually do it? and what does it mean for productivity? and if you're ambitious and you want to get on, you want to work harder than the next person. >> well, it's, worth mentioning.

david mentioned that they have this law in france. france has significantly higher levels of productivity than we do in the uk, so it's not a case of rinse the workers for as many hours as you can possibly get out of them, and therefore your productivity goes up. it's not how. excuse me. i'm so sorry. i'm coughing so much, everybody, that's not how productivity works . actually, there are works. actually, there are productive hours and then there are unproductive ways of working. and these are two different things. and again, it's not the dichotomy of should we be able to have our bosses contact us at any hour of the day or night, or are we lazy brits? it's they're getting these are not these are not the two options. it's important that we have downtime. it's important that we have family time. it's important that we have leisure time. if you are somebody who lives to work, there are basically two types of people in the world. there are people who live to work, who love their work, who want to do it as much as they possibly can. there and that's kind of what i'm like. then there's my brother who works to live. he is a he's a

very, very hard working person. he's a forklift truck driver, and he does it so that he can pay and he does it so that he can pay for his holidays and his mortgage and his lifestyle. and, you know , god love him for it. you know, god love him for it. >> okay. hello. emma's brother. if you're watching, unfortunately, we're in australia, so probably not. >> oh, right . >> oh, right. >> oh, right. >> well anything knows if they've got the tech back up and running obviously. they've got the tech back up and running obviously . unfortunately running obviously. unfortunately we run out of time on that one. well i'm dawn neesom this is gb news and there's lots more coming up on today's show, football controversial man. new striker mason greenwood has signed with french. club marseille. we'll bring you the very latest on that story and the quite vitriolic reaction to it. this is gb news, britain's news channel. you don't to go too far

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marseille have signed manchester united forward mason greenwood until 2029, in a deal worth up to £266 million. the french club were criticised by the marseille mayor after their intention to sign greenwood was made public due to the english striker's past charges against him, including attempted rape and assault, which were dropped in february 2023. here's what mason had to say about his past. >> i really want to get into any conversations or any discussions about that, but as i spotted yesterday and i spot on the situation last season, i'd only like to look forward and to be a part of marseille and just to move forward with myself, my family, my daughter, my, my partner and the whole club and just to focus on the football and focus on the off field work with my family . with my family. >> okay. that's what mason had to say. joining me now is sports broadcaster aidan magee. to delve down a bit further into

this story, very, very controversial player. obviously we were all aware of the accusations against him and we saw some pretty stunning pictures as well. what do you make? i should say the player denies any wrongdoing. absolutely, completely denied any wrongdoing, but what do you make of this signing ? and some make of this signing? and some of the response is getting is not not great. >> no, i mean, it's been been very mixed in in marseille or across france actually. but marseille are a big club. we remember them from the 80s don't we. >> and the early 90s winning european cups and champions leagues and what have you. >> so there was a welcome party. there was lots of fans greeted his arrival. you know, this is a decent player, you know, very good player. i mean, if things had turned out differently, i think he would have gone to the euros with with england, he scored ten goals on loan with getafe in la liga. they're not they're not not a top club getafe by any stretch of the imagination. and he managed to stand out in a poor side. and so it's from football. football ability alone. it's it stands to reason that decent clubs would be would be looking to take him on. now as i say he was interestingly you know premiership clubs know i think it's too toxic at the moment right for that i mean united

look in a in an ideal world we want to keep him. they they my understanding is that they spoke to sponsors and say look how. and they said look how, how is this going to play out. they did not want to lose. and don't forget two years ago when with longer left on his contract, he and even younger and with the potential he'd shown. i mean, you're looking at probably a £50 million player there. so i would imagine marseille went through the same hoops they they spoke to their sponsors. they're not not as big a club as man united of course, but nonetheless they managed to probably get a green pass by the sounds of it. but there have been a ferocious backlash by some sections of the marseille support. there was a hashtag trending in the last couple of days, hashtag greenwood not welcome. there was someone who described it as an an immoral and degenerate moment in the history of the club. so what i would say, though, is that football does have a habit of forgiving even the most heinous of crimes very, very quickly. >> ray reardon, we lost today. yes indeed. >> oh yeah, 91 years old, six time world champion. he was the oldest winner of a world title back in 1978, when he won at age

45. he was a mentor to ronnie o'sullivan, one of the great characters of the game, various tributes have come in, this morning, cliff thorburn said it was an honour to know him. jemmy white said. he was a giant of the sport and he always reminded me of dracula and i mean that in a really, really lovely way. >> thank you very much. aidan magee. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's really packed show. so you don't want to go anywhere, but you might want to find out what the weather's doing. so here's honour to tell you what the weather is going to be like in your part of the world this weekend. hopefully it's a good one. fingers crossed. summer still on her. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, it's certainly been an unsettled start to the weekend, but the good news is it is going to be turning brighter from sunday. and the reason for this unsettled start is because we have this waving frontal feature draped across western

parts of the uk, and this is slowly moving its way eastwards. and this is bringing a fair amount of rain across the west, which is slowly moving towards the north—east of the country. still could see some heavy downpours on this rain into the evening as it does so, but generally it is turning drier still. a fair amount of cloud around though, particularly across central and southern parts of the uk, where it'll still be feeling quite mild, but where it starts to turn clearer across northern ireland and parts of scotland, it's going to be feeling a little bit cooler now to start sunday morning pretty cloudy across the south and across central areas. few dnps and across central areas. few drips and drabs of rain and drizzle, but as that cloud clears it will be turning brighter, particularly across parts of the west and parts of wales. still a little bit cloudier across northern ireland and a few showers starting to feed in across western parts of scotland. but on the whole it is generally turning drier away from the northern isles, where they'll see quite a damp start and that rain will continue to clear its way north eastwards through sunday morning. but on the whole a much drier, brighter

day and generally some sunny spells breaking through that cloud through the morning. a bit of a different story across northern ireland. we'll start to see cloud thicken and it will turn quite damp into the afternoon too , but on the whole afternoon too, but on the whole afternoon too, but on the whole a much fresher feeling day with some sunny spells, some slightly cooler temperatures, but still feeling warm where you do catch the sunshine as we progress into the sunshine as we progress into the evening though, that rain that hits northern ireland into the afternoon will start to feed into western parts of scotland. still, a few showers here in the far north—west of scotland too, but on the whole another dry night. plenty of clear spells. we'll be feeling a little bit fresher than of late. two quite a changeable week ahead with some slightly cooler temperatures, but temperatures are on the rise and where you catch the sunshine it will still be warm. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> thank you very much. honour and there's loads more coming up on today's packed show . now tory

on today's packed show. now tory mp suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect to reform uk if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest, but is there another twist in this very ongoing tale? all of that and much more to come with gb news channel. but first i've got a treat for you, david, because here indeed is the lovely tamsin roberts with that lovely smile

hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom for the next hour. keeping you company on tv, on radio and on digital. now, don't go anywhere. we have got a cracking show coming up for you. tory mp suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect to reform if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest, but is another twist in this ongoing tale of the tory leadership battle. then over in america,

where it's even madder. us president joe biden has insisted he will stay in the presidential race, despite calls from 30 senior democrats for him to quit and there are rumours it might be happening this weekend, so stay tuned . and downing street stay tuned. and downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off, not the tv, by the way, your emails, is that the right thing to do, or are we just becoming a little bit lazy in britain ? but this show is in britain? but this show is nothing without you and your views, so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by visiting gbnews.com forward slash yoursay and join the conversation. you can even put some nice messages on there if you want. tamsin does have a lovely smile . thank you for lovely smile. thank you for everyone saying that, or our socials, which is even simpler. that's @gbnews. but first, talking of tamsin, here she is with those news headlines for you.

>> thanks very much, dawn, and good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. it'sjust good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. it's just after 1:00. holidaymakers are being warned to expect ongoing disruption as the fallout from yesterday's global it outage continues. flight delays are persisting as airports and other businesses are slowly getting back online. it comes as thousands of families start their summer holidays as the schools break up. banks, supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among many others who were also knocked offline yesterday. the glitches were caused by security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft windows software . a yacht windows software. a yacht carrying a group of migrants has been seized in the english channel as they attempted to cross illegally from france . cross illegally from france. well, if you're watching on tv, you can see this footage obtained exclusively by gb news, showing the small 18 foot yacht as it was towed into dover's harbour by the border force. our

producer counted 86 migrants disembarking from the force's vessel. it comes as hundreds of other small boat migrants launched from the beaches of northern france, the third busiest day of illegal crossings. this week , a man who crossings. this week, a man who escaped from a west london prison while being treated in hospital has been recaptured. graham gomm, who's 63, had been on remand for burglary offences at wormwood scrubs but he absconded on thursday after being taken to hammersmith hosphal being taken to hammersmith hospital. he was arrested in south—west london at around 830 this morning. pay increases in the public sector could cost around £10 billion, which is believed to be more than the government had forecast. independent pay review bodies are reportedly set to recommend pay are reportedly set to recommend pay rises of 5.5% for teachers and nhs staff, but schools and hospitals are unlikely to be able to meet the increase with their existing budgets without making cuts. it could represent a significant challenge for

rachel reeves first budget. after promising to clamp down on borrowing and ruling out a string of tax rises during the election campaign, the race is on to become the next leader of the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind. tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party. and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warn the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards the hard right and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government. former cabinet minister steve baker told gb news why he thinks tom tom tugendhat is the man for the job. >> we have to build a broad coalition which is on board for some robustly conservative things and tom, as somebody being seen from the left, is, i believe, the right person to do robustly conservative things with a tone that can attract everyone. but you're right, he's going to need to prove to everyone that he is a true blue

conservative, willing to press in the direction of freedom under the law. >> the home secretary says . >> the home secretary says. violent disorder that erupted on the streets of leeds was audacious criminality. five people have now been arrested in connection with the angry scenes in the harehills area on thursday. vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was overturned. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children who were taken into care. yvette cooper says those responsible will be brought to justice. >> we've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident , but child protection incident, but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets, and also that the perpetrators feel the full force of the law . of the law. >> six time world snooker

champion ray reardon has died at the age of 91. the welshman dominated the sport in the 1970s and was widely regarded as one of the greatest snooker players ever. of the greatest snooker players ever . while fellow snooker ever. while fellow snooker champion jemmy white has paid tribute to his friend, describing him as a total class act . now clouds and cooler act. now clouds and cooler weather are back this weekend after yesterday's sweltering conditions brought the hottest day of the year so far. the met office says temperatures reached 31.9 degrees in central london, but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today. but don't worry, some good news. meteorologists say the warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. fingers crossed those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'll be back in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com

forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, tamsin. and now i'm trying to practise. tamsin smile, but it just looks like wind. so apologies. right. let's get straight into today's story , shall we? tory mp suella story, shall we? tory mp suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect to reform uk if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest. the former home secretary is reportedly struggling to garner enough support from within her party to get that top job. sources from both sides now expect her to jump both sides now expect her to jump ship. is that the right thing to do, though? what do you think she should do? joining me now is gb. news, political reporter olivia utley to explain what is going on with the tories at the moment. olivia, and good luck with this one. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> it's a bit of a minefield. i think it's very unlikely that suella braverman is going to defect to reform. this was a story that was published in the

i paper last night, and there are indeed part sources from both the conservative party and the reform party who are saying it's likely suella braverman herself, though, has roundly denied the rumours. and most senior conservatives don't seem to think that that is likely. it all stems from comments that suella braverman made over the campaign trail, where she said that nigel farage and reform should link up with the conservatives that the conservatives that the conservatives should be a broad enough church to incorporate someone like nigel farage. but it was very much, she thought, that reform should be joining the conservatives rather than conservatives like her joining reform . i think there is perhaps reform. i think there is perhaps a very narrow path to suella braverman ending up joining reform . she is probably going to reform. she is probably going to put her name forward for the conservative leadership race, but it looks a bit for now, as though her campaign is dead before it's even really started. there are a lot of conservative mps on the right of the party who are jostling to become the

sort of primary contender for the right wing , candidate for the right wing, candidate for the right wing, candidate for the final two of the leadership ballot. you've got suella braverman, you've got priti patel, you've got robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, you've got kemi badenoch. and then on the sort of more centrist side, though, i don't think it's completely tom tugendhat. some of his branded as a leftie , which i don't think as a leftie, which i don't think is quite right, but you have tom tugendhat, so there are lots and lots of people on the right jostling for position. suella braverman has lost the backing of some key people who backed her at the last leadership election, so danny kruger and miriam cates among them , they've miriam cates among them, they've they've put their support behind robert jenrick . there could robert jenrick. there could potentially be a situation where suella braverman does put her name forward, ends up with very, very little support and decides to jump ship because she'd rather be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. and it does sound very much as though nigel farage, lee anderson and the other reform five are very keen to woo her.

>> interesting. and kemi badenoch is also a favourite among conservative members, isn't she, for this leadership? and they have to do something fairly soon, don't they? >> she is a favourite among members of the party. she's not quite so popular, as far as i can tell, among members of parliament. she has a bit of a reputation for being a bit tetchy, a bit snippy. she sometimes has a go at journalists in press conferences, and there are conservative mps i've spoken to who think that when you're you know, when you have such a relatively small rump of an opposition, you're not really in a position where you can be kind of tetchy to journalists. you've got to be, you know, sucking up to people a little bit, or at least talking to people in the tea rooms and showing your softer side to get people to listen to what the conservative party has to say. so i think it's possible that kemi badenoch doesn't even make it onto the final two, which goes to the members, even though , as you members, even though, as you say, she is popular with the members. as for the question of whether they'll do something soon, the conservatives have said in the immediate aftermath

of the election that they wanted a bit of a breather. plenty of senior conservatives pointed out to me that now they are the opposition rather than the government. they didn't feel that they needed to rush the contest too much because whoever wins will be leader of the opposition. but they won't be prime minister, which is obviously a far more important. that said, i've spoken to ben houchen, the mayor of tees valley, who is now actually the most senior conservative, most powerful conservative, at least in the country. and his view is that the conservatives should just get on with it. he says that we know basically what all of these conservative candidates think about pretty much everything. they've all either been senior cabinet ministers before or they've run for leader of the party before. so sort of what's the point of hanging around? i think the general consensus will be that it'll all be wrapped up, probably just after the conservative party conference in the beginning of october. there's a theory that the final hustings will be at the final hustings will be at the conservative party conference. there is a question mark, though, over rishi, whether rishi sunak will sign off that plan . does he want to

off that plan. does he want to hang around for another three months? don't think i would if i were him. i completely agree with you on that one. >> olivia utley trying to explain what's happening with the conservative party at the moment. right. okay, let's see what my brilliant panel make of this one. this hour i'm joined by finder, founder of youth vote uk, alex cairns , and former uk, alex cairns, and former conservative special adviser charlie rowley . gentlemen, thank charlie rowley. gentlemen, thank you so much forjoining me. this afternoon. not thank you so much for telling me that it's actually chucking it down with rain outside. i was getting used to the long hot summer day we were having, lots and lots of you have been getting in touch by the way, about the migrant crossing situation. you're seeing as we have just been discussing suella braverman and ourjoining reform uk and lots of you saying, you know, william, why didn't the coastguard take the boat they seized back to france. they should rename them illegal taxi service. whereas ferry fitzy. i'm not sure that's your real name. says a migrant lodger for every labour voter. and, basically blah blah blah.

martin. martin, you say those who voted labour hang your heads in shame. your vote has destroyed the country. very strong words coming in on that conversation. so this is kind of unked conversation. so this is kind of linked to it. this is suella braverman, jumping ship, no pun intended, considering we've just been talking about boats coming out in yachts. now they're coming over, evidently, across the channel. i'm going to come to you first on this one, charlie , suella braverman and charlie, suella braverman and reform. do you think that's a good fit , good fit, >> it may for be suella braverman, and it may be for reform. i'm sure they would love to have a former home secretary, someone who's actually held a cabinet position . that's quite cabinet position. that's quite a few to choose from, to be fair, their ranks. but i don't think it's, the right move , really at it's, the right move, really at all, i think, look, the idea that suella braverman is now having to sort of say, no, i'm not quitting the conservative party even before the leadership firing gun has even been sort of, shot off, if i can put it, like that, you know, and she wants to sort of throw her hat into the ring for the leader of

the conservative party. the idea that there's this conversation about her leaving to go and join reform is, is not a good look for her. but, you know, she's lost support because i think most people recognise that the conservative party has to heal. it has to have someone that bnngs it has to have someone that brings people together. after what has been a cataclysmic defeat for the conservative party, not one that anybody would have wanted, certainly, or at least for me and anyone else. but, the idea that she's then done, done the complete opposite by being even more extreme in her views, even more isolationist in terms of. and her rhetoric is doubled down. that's not something that has frightened mp colleagues, which is why people are talking about robert jenrick being the more sensible of the two in terms of the right. and people like tom tugendhat. >> he has been backed by sort of like people on the right and the more centrist side of the party, hasn't he, kemi badenoch is also getting a lot of, support amongst conservative party members, alex, what do you make of this situation? i mean, the one thing people are saying on here about suella is she spoke she she she spoke very strongly about the small boat situation .

about the small boat situation. whereas at the moment labour have been in power for about two weeks and we seem to be more and more coming over on a daily basis. >> but what's interesting is when i speak to actually some some tory friends of mine, they talk about the fact that she's a one kind of topic issue leader, you know, contender. and that's not really what they need. you know, everyone knows that immigration should be, you know, top of the agenda, but it's not the only thing. and she really does really just talk about that. and i actually agree with charlie. she's been quite critical of the party for some time. and that's actually going to hurt her because actually it was quite obvious. fair enough. the rwanda plan wasn't working, but she kind of kept talking about it. >> that didn't help other colleagues of hers. >> that doesn't help the party from a polling perspective. and now she's expecting everyone to kind of forgive her and actually unite the party. that's probably why tom tugendhat is probably aheadin why tom tugendhat is probably ahead in those polls, because actually, he looks as a centrist figure that can probably, you know, not so much the left, but the more moderate, you know, conservative small c and the more kind of extreme conservatives together. and that's why, tom, i think

potentially would definitely go to the members. whether he'll win with the members is interesting because the members, let's remember, picked liz truss right . we've got to remember right. we've got to remember that, you know, and that was a disaster. so you know on paper who the parliamentary party versus the members want will be completely different in my mind. >> yeah. interesting. lots of comments, tom tugendhat is not the right pm material. he is on the right pm material. he is on the left and they need someone more right wing. that's from sheila, keep those comments coming in by the way, a lot of you getting very, very uptight about this situation, about what people are doing, i just also the labour party, right . okay. the labour party, right. okay. they have hit the ground running according to some. but given some of the comments we're having on here and the small boat situation, charlie, is the honeymoon period coming to an end? >>i end? >> i think it is. i think it will, come to an end quite quickly because there is a huge juxtaposition, i think, within the country you talk to anybody and trying to be sort of, you know, open and not as a political partisan. but there has been a shift where, look , has been a shift where, look, the tory chaos within government that has gone a new government has come in this idea of change,

i think, has settled the country a little bit, but that will only go so far, as you say, because you've got a government that where there was a low turnout in terms of the vote, but has now already pledged to nationalise your energy, nationalise your railways, and nationalise whatever else that has to increase prisoners out is another thing we hear a lot of people complaining about exactly . people complaining about exactly. taxes will have to go up at some point. you know, the chancellor rachel reeves forgive me. you know, will want to paint the picture as the economy is totally , being tarnished, even totally, being tarnished, even though actually they've been left not a bad position with inflation down. but we can have all these arguments. but i think thatis all these arguments. but i think that is not a government that i think most people really wanted. they voted for change, but they don't think this is the change that they wanted and they certainly didn't want. i think ever closer ties to the eu. they certainly wanted the small boats crisis to stop. is this the way in which it's going to stop by giving even more money to france, by having sort of an amnesty on the 90,000 backlog cases that we have in this country already. i don't think that's what the public want. is it do the public want to release

prisoners early? yes, of course. failures of the past to not build the prison places. but i don't think releasing prisoners again is something that the pubuc again is something that the public wanted or voted for or were told about. so i do think this honeymoon period, whilst there is a quite a welcome change, but the change that we're going to see is not something i think the public will want to see for much longer. >> alex, very quickly, i'm running out of time . running out of time. unfortunately, the honeymoon penod unfortunately, the honeymoon period is it over and lots of people on, lots of viewers and listeners saying that today they are sick of labour already. certainly with regards to migration, i don't think the honeymoon, the honeymoon period can be over. >> you know, it's literally been what it's been two weeks. the reality is it was going to be a big change. i appreciate that. you know, as charlie said, it was a low turnout. you know, labour didn't necessarily get, you know, 45% of the vote, 40% of the vote. so i do get that. but in fairness to labour, it's going to take some time. you know, i know there was actually a really interesting dialogue between kemi and angela rayner. but how's this, for example. and you know, you know, proof is going to be in the pudding about, you know, how many houses, 1.5 million they want to build. you know, they've got

lots of ambitious plans. we've got to give them time. you know, the tories had 14 years. there's a lot of time. you know, we could go through it now. we don't have time. we could go through the metrics there. so the honeymoon period can't be overin the honeymoon period can't be over in two weeks. >> to be fair, you haven't been on honeymoon yet, though, have come back to me when you have come back to me when you have come back to me when you have, come back to me when you have , but mike sharp out there. thank you, mike, for getting in touch. you're summing up what a lot of people on here are saying. we have replaced conservative chaos with labour chaos, but, so please do keep your views coming in. lots of you getting very, very angry about the situation with what labour are doing about migration, all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more. please do go to our website though, which is gb news.com now. there is still plenty of time to escape all this. you know it's raining now. evidently in most places escape this british summer. you can win £30,000 in our great british giveaway. it's our biggest cash prize of the year. i can't enter, but you can. and here's what you need to do. >> don't miss your chance to win our super summer giveaway with your chance to win £30,000 cash!

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us on the radio. or sort of like, you know, sitting and watch telly because it's not sunny, so you don't need to be sunbathing. right. let's go across the pond, shall we? talking of water, us president joe biden has insisted he will stay in the presidential race despite calls from 30 senior democrats for him to quit. the ailing leader said he looked forward to return to the campaign trail next week as he vowed to win the election right . vowed to win the election right. okay. excuse me. i'm losing my voice now . it's all the rain voice now. it's all the rain down here and the. now i still have charlie rowley and alex. karen still with me. we've just been discussing discussing uk politics. now we're going to do american politics. alex, coming to you first on this one, i feel very sad personally watching joe biden at the moment. i think it's unfair to see someone obviously in some kind of mental decline, there is a chance he might go this weekend. what do you make of the situation in america at the moment? >> yeah, i actually can't believe that the world's biggest economy has got to a point that the two candidates are biden and trump. you know , it's got a lot

trump. you know, it's got a lot of talented people in this country, both parties definitely could have put up better candidates. and that's the situation we have. i actually think that it's a pride thing for joe biden. you know, he's forjoe biden. you know, he's been president for nearly four years. he's been vice president for eight years. you know, he got the nomination from the party, from the members. he doesn't want to step down, but he has to, because in all of the swing states, he's behind in the polling. and actually, if he wants to put his party and potentially the country first, because, you know, i know we can maybe disagree on this, but politically, i think, you know, a democratic presidency will be better than a trump presidency. he's got to look at the polling and think, you know what? let me step aside and actually have someone younger, potentially, pete buttigieg, you know, potentially kamala harris, although kamala harris, i actually don't think i think she would lose actually, she's definitely not going to be any better than joe biden. so i actually think they've got to look inside the californian governor. there's lots of great candidates. and joe brunnen really are. i agree. i feel for him. he has to step down. >, >> the americans seem to think that trump is going to win this election and the assassination

attempt the other week. i mean obviously it's not a good thing, an assassination attempt, but his reaction to it has has garnered him more support. >> yeah, exactly. you couldn't, wish that or want that on anybody. absolutely not. but the ramifications, because of the way he got up, the way he was sort of telling the campaign or the people outside to sort of fight, fight, fight that image of him breaking through his protection team with his fist in the air just showed a sign of the airjust showed a sign of strength. and, you're right, it's had an effect in the polls. what is so interesting about the biden issue is that, all signs looked as though biden was going to be able to stand down with some sort of grace and dignity this weekend . he'd sort of this weekend. he'd sort of obviously made a few errors. the debate that we saw against donald trump was the first issue. then he made that obviously terrible mistake dunng obviously terrible mistake during his press conference when he announced, you know, president zelenskyy as president putin and, you know, so lots of gaffes that took place. he then sort of gave an interview to say, well, look, if doctors said

that i wasn't well or if actually there was someone that could poll better, then of course i would consider it, you know, so he entertained the prospect of being able to stand down and then obviously he had covid last week and now more democratic senators and leading politicians have come out to say, you should really consider it. president obama is supposedly suggested it. nancy pelosi, a very senior democrat. so lots of people are pushing the door open for him to walk through to say, you can now stand down with dignity, but do it on your own terms. but he's done a complete reverse ferret and said, i'll be on the campaign trail next week fighting for every vote, and you know, it's difficult because he's not going to win in the state that he currently is. but what's also difficult is that kamala harris, as alex was saying, doesn't poll any better. no polls, probably worse. >> she's been fairly anonymous as a vice president, hasn't she? >> she's been focused on one issue, actually. you know, the abortion rights. fair enough. but you've got your vice president. you've got to be, you know, on all of the issues, you know, on all of the issues, you know, so if she runs, she definitely lose. >> and if there is another replacement now just three

months to go. yeah. can they actually turn it around. is anybody going to give them the time of day. because if you're electing the president of the united states and you only just get nominated three months before the actual nomination, people will vote for trump anyway. you could argue. so it's anyway. you could argue. so it's a very, very difficult situation for the democrats. and you never know. it might just be worth them sort of suggesting we're going to lose this anyway. whoever it is. why don't we just stick with biden? but of course, you want to give yourself the best bet. and joe biden clearly can't win. so who do you think is going to be the best president for the uk? >> alex, what a question. >> alex, what a question. >> but definitely not trump. i mean, why not? because politically the labour government and trump's administration, you know, it's like going to a party and having a bunch of people in one corner and a bunch of people on another corner, you know, they're just not aligned. you know, david lammy and potentially, you know, johnson. like, it's just not it's not going to work at all, you know, and politically they're just we've got to work together. don't get me wrong, i'm sure they can put their

differences aside, but definitely a biden or a democratic administration being on the left and a left leaning government , they i mean, the one government, they i mean, the one thing trump has said is going to be strong on migration, and he's also strong on the war in ukraine and said that he could sort that problem out straight away, winning him lots of votes. i think. fair enough. i think on some issues, definitely the uk government would probably agree with him. you know, they, you know, want to make sure that putin stop invading ukraine. so on that. and i think, you know, potentially on immigration there would be differences. but they both want commonality of getting the numbers down. but on lots of other things, they're not the same people at all. you know trump's background keir starmer's background keir starmer's background keir starmer has been in public service. trump kind of fell into this, let's be honest. and you know these two are not my brothers for sure charlie. >> all right. you know i think trump look if it's trump versus putin trump wins hands down, i think if it's trump versus nato, as we saw during his first presidency, trying to get other european nations to stump up their defence spending, because

you can't just rely on the banks of america. trump wins. and i think when you've got a labour party that is not committing to that 2.5% gdp, unless conditions allow, well, the conditions will never be ready in time. you've got to increase your defence spending. donald trump will walk into the uk , or a nato or into the uk, or a nato or a european summit or whatever to say how it is and says what he means, and people respond. and i think the world, in a funny kind of way, even though it might not be the right way to go about it, but the world seems a little bit actually safer sometimes under donald trump. because, you know, if you're facing the threat of iran, if you're facing the threats of syria, where he had no tolerance for what was going on in the middle east and, you know, took action where president obama failed, he obviously met, kim jong il in, in north korea. yeah, sorry to try and sort of make some sort of peaceful arrangements. he's met president putin, he can work with putin, but if you get on the wrong side of him, and i don't think any leader anywhere in the world wants to get on the wrong side of putin, that might make us as a west and as as uk more safe, interesting thoughts,

interesting thoughts. >> well, you've heard what alex and charlie have had to say. what do you think to this one? just let us know. messages coming in and they're great today, right. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news saturday and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, it's the lovely, very smiley tamsin roberts with those news headunes roberts with those news headlines for you. >> thanks very much, dawn. a big smile for you there. here are the headlines at 131. well, houday the headlines at 131. well, holiday makers are facing disruption as the fallout from yesterday's global. it outage continues. flight delays are continuing as airports and other businesses slowly get back online. it comes as thousands of families start their summer holidays as schools break up, while the glitches were caused by a security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft's windows software . microsoft's windows software. a man who escaped from a west london prison while being treated in hospital has been recaptured. graham gomm, who's 63, absconded on thursday after

being taken to hammersmith hosphal being taken to hammersmith hospital. he was arrested in south—west london at around 830 this morning. the race is on to become the next leader of the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind. tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party and influential within the party and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warned the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards the hard right and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government . clouds and cooler government. clouds and cooler weather are back this weekend. sadly, after yesterday's sweltering conditions brought the hottest day of the year so far . but heavy the hottest day of the year so far. but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today. but don't worry, good news is on the way from meteorologist who say the warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. not to long wait. those are the headlines. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb

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soon. oh. welcome back to gb news saturday with me . dawn neesom. saturday with me. dawn neesom. i'm glad to see you back. to be honest with you, because these two are getting very frisky dunng two are getting very frisky during the break. we're on tv, onune during the break. we're on tv, online and on digital radio now. the tech outage. oh, my god, it's been terrible, isn't it? the boss of the cybersecurity firm responsible for world it outage admits it could be some time before all those systems are back up and running . while are back up and running. while the software bug has been fixed, experts say the manual reboot of each affected microsoft computer imagine will take a huge amount of work. joining me now to bring us up to date on this story and

tell us what's been happening in northern ireland on it is reporter dougie beattie dougie, thank you very much for joining us, it's been it's like a horror film to me. you know, i've seen this movie. it doesn't end well. how has it been in northern ireland? has it suffered as bad as the rest of the uk? >> well, we're very lucky in northern ireland that we actually have a very small population here. in fact, we only have three airports city of derry, aldergrove , that's derry, aldergrove, that's belfast international and george base where i'm standing outside now. and, yeah, all our planes managed to get off the ground pretty much on the day that it happened, simply because they were able to switch to manual. now, it did have problems with screens, etc. inside the building telling people when their flights were. but you know , their flights were. but you know, pretty much on the whole they managed to get out. but you've got to you've got to bring that into context. you know, all three of our airports, i would imagine in a month, wouldn't have the same flights in as heathrow would have in one day. the problem now for us is

actually planes coming back, because they're in places where they shouldn't be. they were due to be here and they're caught in the likes of majorca or parma or italy or wherever, and those planes are now coming on. we were also very lucky that our houday were also very lucky that our holiday season started at the end of june, so there wasn't that same big push into the airports here. and because our it systems are pretty small, and that in that way it was easier to get them up and running, the big problem we did have here, of course, was with the national health, because that is part of the british it system. it gave us problems in and around gp surgeries , appointments, giving surgeries, appointments, giving it prescriptions and of course digital imaging. now they also give problems with rotas on staff. and i myself went into a chemist , yesterday and staff. and i myself went into a chemist, yesterday and found it hard to actually pay with a card. i had to pay with cash so that means that there will be problems with replenishing stock dunng problems with replenishing stock during that period in time. most

of these places will not know how much stock has gone out and how much stock has gone out and how much stock is to come in, so they might have to do it. the old fashioned way with pen and papeh old fashioned way with pen and paper, and we'll see how many people know how to do that. >> indeed. and pay with cash indeed. dougie beattie, thank you very much for joining us there from northern ireland. now, as i said, i was terrified by this and i'm astonished that, you know, northern ireland has suffered. but here it's been a nightmare. and did you know that 60% of gp surgeries in this country rely on that one system that was affected by this bug? charlie i do find this absolutely terrifying. i have seen this movie. it doesn't end well, how have we got to this state where we're deploying on one tech company that controls so many blue chip companies? that's why the systems went down globally . globally. >> yes. and it was just a small update error one update. exactly. and has brought everything to a standstill. the health service, airports, buses , health service, airports, buses, broadcasters, it is terrifying that just a small bit of

technology can go so badly wrong and have such an impact. i mean, and have such an impact. i mean, and you know , it doesn't bode and you know, it doesn't bode well because obviously, a lot of the conversations that we're having these days is about al and better technology and using that in the health service. well, if that goes wrong, then you can only imagine what might happen. so it is it is a terrifying prospect how much we rely on technology. yeah >> and alex, this this was this wasn't a cyber attack. this wasn't a cyber attack. this wasn't a, you know, a bad actor. this was actually a glitch on a system that's designed to keep us safe from these things going wrong. failed miserably on that one. >> and i was going to say the irony here is the company is actually meant to be protecting the systems from being attacked. and actually the system went down and then everything collapsed. i mean, it's actually really concerning. i agree with you. you know, yesterday i actually only knew about it because my mum came in and said , because my mum came in and said, oh, you know, everything is down. and everyone was panicking and, you know , i went to gail's, and, you know, i went to gail's, couldn't get my coffee and my pastry, which i was very upset about. waitrose and all of the supermarkets were down. so the reality is like it's scary. however, what is good to see is

within 24 hours actually they got things back up and running and yes , it's very concerning and yes, it's very concerning that it can literally wipe out most of the world in terms of flights and lots of broadcasters and lots of companies. flights and lots of broadcasters and lots of companies . but the and lots of companies. but the key thing is when it goes down, it doesn't go down for 4 or 5 weeks, because that would be far more scary. and they need to look at making sure it doesn't happen again. i think they should be fined. actually >> probably, you know, well, i mean, they're just about managing an apology, haven't they? but, we one of the reasons it has taken a lot of people to get back is because lots of us are working from home still after pandemic. remember so that leads us very neatly. see what i did there onto our next topic of conversation, which is are we a nafion conversation, which is are we a nation of lazy brits? downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off. not your tellies don't do that , but your tellies don't do that, but your emails, your phones. you don't have to talk to your boss once you've clocked off for the day. so i've got two very young men, both very hard working here. let's see what they make of this one. coming to you again first, charlie, on this one. labour keir starmer has said that okay, we're going to introduce something not clear quite what

how it's going to work. but you know, when you clock off for the day your boss will be not allowed to contact you. what do you make of that , you make of that, >> well, i think it's ridiculous. i mean, i don't think you need the government, the state to intervene in such a heavy handed way. if you are an employee in france by the way. well, and but they protest at any old sort of, you know, retirement age or anything work related. but i think if you're contracted as you are as an employee, you will have a certain amount of hours anyway that you're contractually, contracted and obliged to do. so if it's a 9 to 5 job, 930 to 530, whatever. you know, you can clock off at that. at that point, if your boss, who is obviously trying to keep the show on the road, emails at late at night or over the weekend, you're not obliged to reply to it. you're not even obliged to open those emails unless it is a job that you think is your hobby, as well as everything else. that's where it becomes, i think, slightly addictive, but by and large you don't need the state to intervene. i think we just need to find a little bit

more metal within us. if the boss calls when they shouldn't to say thank you very much. yes, i will do that, but i'll pick it up on monday or i'll pick it up tomorrow morning or whatever. or if somebody calls after a certain hour, you don't have to pick up the phone. you don't have to reply to every whatsapp. you don't have to reply to every email. we just need a bit more. i think strength within us as employees rather than it's just tricky. >> if you've got a horrible boss, alex, i'm going to come to you because you represent the youth voice. i mean, that's what youth voice. i mean, that's what you know. that's that's what you do. i mean, it has been said that younger people don't have quite the work ethic. i'm being careful with my words here of some of the older generations. now, this is quite i think this this policy is aimed at the younger generation to give you that work life balance. what do you make of it that. >> yeah, that's the key thing . >> yeah, that's the key thing. you know, there's been a lot of evidence to suggest that the reason this, this piece of legislation is needed is over the years, the people that have progressed in their careers are the ones that have picked up the phone at 9:00 in the evening, are the ones that have had visibility in the office, come in before their boss left, after their boss, you know, worked weekends. and the reality is , weekends. and the reality is,

you know, no one wants to admit it. but actually that's the only way you get on in your careers. you know, if you do your paid hours and no more, you're not seen to be going above and beyond. we see in performance appraisals people talk about, do you go the extra mile? and actually the reality is what does that mean? the extra mile means you have to put in those ridiculous hours. you don't get paid for it. so actually, whether people think that young people are being lazy or not, they're actually the first people that are targeting in the sense of you're lazy because you don't want to work past 6:00 on a friday evening, you know, not even keir starmer is going to work past 6:00 on a friday evening. >> you know? yeah, yeah. >> you know? yeah, yeah. >> so actually, by the way, while we're on that, apologies for any jewish people who are watching. were upset by my comment earlier on. i didn't mean it in the way. and when keir starmer said he was clocking off on friday, he didn't actually mention it was for his wife. he didn't jewish, by the way. he didn't actually mention that other people have mentioned that. but apologies if you were upset. i certainly wasn't having a go and i completely appreciate that, sir. and that is part of your faith, but coming back to what you were saying, alex, what about ambition? what about if you want to go that extra mile and you want to succeed? you want to become the boss, then going home

at 5:00 and saying, sorry, mate , at 5:00 and saying, sorry, mate, not not answering your emails. that's not going to do any good, is it? >> well, okay, so this is the thing. it's about the company culture, right? and actually the legislation may get bosses to slightly think differently. you know, a lot of people are not very productive during the day. that's actually probably why they need to work ridiculous hours. because, you know, lots of people go for coffee breaks for, you know, smoking breaks. you know, the reality is they're not that productive. so actually, if bosses think, okay, let's be more productive during the day, there isn't going to be this uncomfortable culture of those that are willing to do the extra hours in the evening and those that actually want to switch off because burnout is a real thing. we've seen a lot of evidence to suggest, and actually this silly culture of like, who goes the extra mile and who picks up the slack in the in the evening, who doesn't? i really don't think that's the sort of culture we want to live in. >> i'm afraid we're running out of time. i was going to ask you whether you'd employ him, but yes or no? >> oh, absolutely. yes. >> oh, absolutely. yes. >> very, very, very tactful, thank you very much, i'm dawn neesom this is gb news saturday, and there's loads more coming up

on today's very packed show, which is going really fast. now, according to reports , strictly according to reports, strictly come dancing judge anton du beke has reportedly raised concerns over resurfaced historic row and his alleged 1970s style behaviour. stay tuned to find out what he said and what that's all about. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel, and we're going dancing so don't go too

oh, blimeyi i'm squishing paul stephanie takyi into a tiny weeny amount of space. welcome back to gb news. saturday, dawn neesom on your telly, online, on digital radio. we're all over the place, basically. but now we're talking, dancing and showbiz. and i have the lovely stephanie takyi with me to explain why i'm never doing strictly come dancing. go on. what's going on, dawn? >> it's been a strictly witch hunt all week long. you know, there's been a lot of

allegations against some of the dancers that they've been physically and verbally abusing their dance partners. the latest dancer to be named well, judge now is anthony anton du beke. this is a historic case. going back, we're talking about 2009, when he was dancing with laila rouass. and, you know, she got a spray tan and apparently he said a racial slur. he apologised to her. at the time, he said it wasn't of a racial intent at the moment. we have a law firm called carter and ruck who are building up cases with past contestants, and they've reached out to her to see whether potentially she would like to bnng potentially she would like to bring a case against anton and the bbc. the problem with this now is we're going back to 2009. anton is now a judge and, you know, the public were none the wiser about this historic case. so they are being calls for anton to be sacked as a judge. most people know anton is a very anton du beke is a very lovable man. he seems very nice. but you see you see what happens when you bring these kind of criticism out into the public sphere and especially in this

day and age, ahead of the new 20th season, people are going to be thinking , well, do we keep be thinking, well, do we keep anton as a judge? and it's a shame because they had already rectified that situation. but because we're in the midst of this strictly storm at the moment, a lot of historic cases are coming up. like with graziano and zara mcdermott, which happened this week. that happened nine months ago. the bbc have been sitting on this case for a long time, but it's only because of what's happened with giovanni pernice and amanda abbington all of these cases are coming up, but surely i'm playing devil's advocate slightly here on behalf of the professionals. >> yeah , surely if they're >> yeah, surely if they're lumbered with a complete numpty like me who can't dance to save their life, they have to be strict with them. i mean, all right, kicking and hitting people is completely wrong. but there's a fine line here between being strict and being a harsh trainer. >> totally torn. and you know what to go on strictly. these celebrities get paid a lot of money and we expect a show from them. we know they're novices, but the whole point of them training with these dancers is so that they can look like

they're professionals. we only see two minutes of them training, but they spend up to 12 hours a day. a lot of these dancers have gone through strict training themselves, so they're just kind of imparting that knowledge. but that's why the bbc have now decided that they're going to have chaperones and producers who will be sitting in in the training session. >> i mean, this is the real curse of strictly. this could be the end of it, do you think? >> well, to be honest, i think with so much going on at the moment, i think people are thinking whether this show can last. it's known to be family friendly, but we are now seeing the dark side of strictly. >> wow. interesting to see how it works in the autumn when it's back, right? the bbc have said, announcing additional steps to strengthen welfare and support on strictly come dancing . on strictly come dancing. concerns that have arisen in recent months have been fundamentally about training and rehearsals. the actions we announced today are designed to address that well, indeed, thank you very much , stephanie. you very much, stephanie. wonderful as always. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news. there's loads more coming up on today's show. so you really don't want to go anywhere, especially by the sounds of it outside because that long british summer day appears to be over. here's the

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and across central areas. few dnps and across central areas. few drips and drabs of rain and drizzle, but as that cloud clears it will be turning brighter, particularly across parts of the west and parts of wales. still a little bit cloudier across northern ireland and a few showers starting to feed in across western parts of scotland. but on the whole it is generally turning drier away from the northern isles, where they'll see quite a damp start and that rain will continue to clear its way north eastwards through sunday morning. but on the whole a much drier, brighter day and generally some sunny spells breaking through that cloud through the morning. a bit of a different story across northern ireland. we'll start to see cloud thicken and it will turn quite damp into the afternoon too , but on the whole afternoon too, but on the whole afternoon too, but on the whole a much fresher feeling day with some sunny spells, some slightly cooler temperatures, but still feeling warm where you do catch the sunshine as we progress into the sunshine as we progress into the evening though, that rain that hits northern ireland into the afternoon will start to feed into western parts of scotland. still, a few showers here in the

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>> hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm dawn neesom. and for the next hour and it's a packed one. we'll be keeping you company on telly, online and on digital radio, keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. as i said, it's a really packed hour coming up, tory mps suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect to reform uk if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest . but loses the upcoming tory leadership contest. but is this just another twist in a very, very long tale? then for more mad politics, a us president joe

biden has insisted he will stay in the presidential race despite calls from 30 senior democrats to quit. we'll bring you all the latest on that, and there could be something happening this weekend, so don't go too far. and downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off. no, not your telly, your emails and your phones when you clock off for the day. is that the right thing to do, though, or are we just a bit lazy these days? but this show is nothing without you and your views, and you're keeping me very amused with some great messages coming up. we'll read some more in a minute, but . up. we'll read some more in a minute, but. so if you want to join in the conversation, it's really, really simple . just really, really simple. just visit gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation or message me even more simple @gbnews but first, it's the news headlines with tamsin roberts.

>> dawn, thanks very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom . afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just after 2:00. passengers continue to face disruption at airports as airlines struggle from the fallout of yesterday's global it outage . flight delays global it outage. flight delays are persisting as airports and other businesses are slowly getting back online. it comes as thousands of families start their holidays as schools break up for the summer. banks, supermarkets , most gp clinics supermarkets, most gp clinics and even major tv and radio broadcasters were among the many who were also knocked offline yesterday. the glitches were caused by a security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft windows software , a yacht carrying software, a yacht carrying migrants has been seized in the engush migrants has been seized in the english channel, trying to cross illegally from france. but if you're watching on tv, you can see this footage obtained exclusively by gb news, showing the small 18 foot yacht as it was towed into dover's harbour

by the border force. our producer counted 86 migrants disembarking from the force's vessel. it comes as hundreds of other small boat migrants launched from beaches of northern france, the third busiest day of illegal crossings. this week . a man who crossings. this week. a man who escaped from a west london prison while being treated in hospital has been recaptured. graham gomm, who's 63, had been on remand for burglary offences at wormwood scrubs but he absconded on thursday after being taken to hammersmith hosphal being taken to hammersmith hospital. he was arrested in south—west london at around 830 this morning. pay increases in the public sector could cost around £10 billion, which is believed to be more than the government had forecast . government had forecast. independent pay review bodies are reportedly set to recommend pay are reportedly set to recommend pay rises of 5.5% for teachers and nhs staff, but schools and hospitals are unlikely to be able to meet the increase with their existing budgets without making cuts. it could represent

a significant challenge for rachel reeves first budget. after promising to clamp down on borrowing and ruling out a string of tax rises during the election campaign , the race is election campaign, the race is on to become the next leader of the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind. tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party. and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warn the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards what they call the hard right , tempted to veer towards what they call the hard right, and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government. former cabinet minister steve baker told gb news why he thinks tom tugendhat is the man for the job. >> we have to build a broad coalition which is on board for some robustly conservative things and tom, as somebody being seen from the left, is, i believe, the right person to do robustly conservative things with a tone that can attract everyone. but you're right, he's

going to need to prove to everyone that he is a true blue conservative, willing to press in the direction of freedom under the law. the home secretary says violent disorder that erupted on the streets of leeds was audacious criminality. >> five people have now been arrested in connection with the angry scenes in the harehills area on thursday, vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was overturned. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children, who were taken into care. yvette cooper says those responsible will be brought to justice. >> i've been talking to west yorkshire police officers and also local community leaders about the action they are now taking in response to those unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident, but it's really important that the community can feel safe on the streets, and also that the perpetrators feel the full force

of the law. >> six time world snooker champion ray reardon has died at the age of 91. the welshman dominated the sport in the 1970s and was widely regarded as one of the greatest snooker players of the greatest snooker players of all time. fellow snooker champion jemmy white has paid tribute to his friend, describing him as a total class act . well, cooler and cloudier act. well, cooler and cloudier weather are back this weekend after yesterday's sunshine brought the hottest day of the year so far. the met office says temperatures reached 31.9 degrees in central london, but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today. but don't worry, some good news from meteorologists. they say warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. not long to wait then. those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm tamsin roberts more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your

smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, tamsin. right now i just want to correct something that someone has put on our wonderful message board. and thank you for getting in touch because you are really, really getting some good messages currently. but wendy, i'm slightly concerned that you say, at one point i've said that i was disappointed that trump wasn't killed. now, i would like to say i never said that i covered the murder of jo cox. i would never wish any politician to be murdered. so i just wanted to be murdered. so i just wanted to get that straight out there. so, wendy, i'm sure you're a lovely lady, and please keep your messages coming in. but i never said i was disappointed that donald trump was killed. okay? just wanted to get that out there, because i do find that upsetting. having covered the murder of jo cox. now let's get straight into the rest of

the stories we're talking about, shall we, tory mp suella braverman has been forced to deny that she would defect reform uk if she loses the upcoming tory leadership contest. the former home secretary is reportedly struggling to garner enough support from within her party to get that top job. sources from both sides expect her to jump ship. joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley to explain and good luck with this one. olivia, what is going on in the tory party? >> well, i think it's safe to say that suella braverman probably won't affect her reform . probably won't affect her reform. these rumours have been abounding for quite a long time now because of comments that braverman made on the campaign trail. she said that the conservative party should be willing to accept people like nigel farage into it, and that conservative and reform had quite a lot in common. but most people read that as she thought that reform should join forces with the conservative party rather than the other way round. that said, nigel farage, lee anderson and the other little

group of five reform mps certainly would like to woo suella braverman. she would be a great addition to their ranks in terms of public profile, and it is just possible that if suella braverman, does put her name forward for the tory leadership race and does very badly, then perhaps to sort of save face, or because she'd rather be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a bigger pond, she could switch over to reform. which brings us on to that conservative leadership race. lots of questions now about when it's actually going to start happening . i expect the timeline happening. i expect the timeline will be a sort of final hustings at the conservative party conference at the beginning of october, and the leader decided shortly after that. lots of conservatives i've spoken to have said that they don't want to rush into the campaign. they want to take some time to think and listen to their constituents. but then i've spoken to conservatives as well, ben houchen among them. now the

most powerful conservative in the country, the mayor for tees valley, who says that he thinks we may as well just get on with it because the values and the opinions are pretty much all of the conservative candidates are well known. most of them are either served in the cabinet or else run for the leadership themselves. it's a very different race to last time. suella braverman, who did do pretty well in the last race, it seems as though her campaign is almost dead on the start line. steve baker, danny kruger, these right wing, miriam cates to these right wing figures, some of them mps, some of them former mps who supported her last time have backed away . this time, have backed away. this time, danny kruger is now supporting robert jenrick. meanwhile, tom tugendhat is picking up support from both the left and the right of that part of the party. as we've seen in that joint op ed today by steve baker on the right and damian green on the left , both of whom lost their left, both of whom lost their seats. he is widely being seen as the as the candidate who has as the as the candidate who has a who has a sort of palatable

image to the general public as an he doesn't come across as that. right wing, but actually would be able to push through seriously conservative policies. i think it's quite likely that tugendhat makes it to the final ballot of two. the final battle to two is decided by mps, and then who gets that top job is decided by members who the other person on that final ballot will be remains to be seen. there is a lot of jostling at the moment among the conservative, right. you've got braverman, you've got jenrick, you've got kemi badenoch, you've got priti patel . badenoch, you've got priti patel. not at all clear who's going to come out in front there, but i suspect that's how the race is going to shape up in the weeks ahead. >> thank you very much, olivia utley, for trying to explain what is going on, the conservative party and who the next leader is going to be. and let's face it, they have had quite a few, haven't they? right. let's see what my panel make of this. this hour. i'm joined by author and commentator nichi hodgson and gb news, host of the saturday five, darren grimes. thank you very much for joining me. and just give me a weather update outside. it's still raining or is it just grey

and yes, it's miserable. >> it's grey. >> it's grey. >> yeah. summer's over again for helping. >> right? you can both go. yeah. okay. right. okay, talking of the weather being a mess, the conservative party is still a mess, isn't it, nikki. suella braverman. i mean, would she be a good fit with reform? do you think they'd have her? >> well, this is the thing. i mean, i think for reform, it'd be a bad decision to let her in because she's a loose cannon. she's not a team player at all. what she wants is power. she wants to be absolutely the boss. that's what you know. that's why she is going after this, this role of conservatives, even though she doesn't have the backing, the reason she doesn't have the backing is because she's not a team player. she hasn't cultivated the right community of support within the party. so actually, i think she's a bit of a liability for reform personally, or is she thinking , i reform personally, or is she thinking, i don't know if she's got some kind of long term game plan? that is, if she joins reform and then nigel farage goes back into the tories and he leads the tories, she could lead reform. that's the only thing i can think of that she might be l, can think of that she might be i, me, i hadn't even thought of that thought process a little

bit. a little bit, yeah, a few chess moves along. but, you know, it could be possible. >> i mean, nigel farage going to the tories. suella braverman going to reform. i mean, no, look, i think actually, nigel is a man in his early 60s now, right? >> he's going to have to, like, handit >> he's going to have to, like, hand it over to somebody at some point. he is . yeah. yeah. point. he is. yeah. yeah. >> he's got at least another decade though. >> yeah. yeah well but that i mean suella braverman is going to be around a bit longer though isn't she. who knows. who knows. he said he doesn't. he'd be more than happy to hand over the reins of the party to some new talent that comes through the ranks. now, were that to be suella braverman, i imagine a lot of reform members would be perfectly pleased with that. i'm not suggesting they'd be happy to get rid of nigel, though. but look, i don't think this is actually going to happen. i think we're all getting excited about something that ain't going to happen. >> to be fair to suella, she has denied it. >> exactly. yeah. and she is committed to the party. her mother was a councillor in the party. she has been conservative since she was at cambridge university. it goes back a long

time. she is a true blue conservative, as the membership would call her. listen, i really like her. i don't i don't accept that she's this kind of power mad, sort of attila the hun type. i actually think she she is someone who has deep principles and wants to actually empower the tory party membership to be able to get the kind of policies that they want to knock on doors for. do i think wishy washy centrism from tom tugendhat is going to enamour him to the base of the tories? no, i don't i frankly, the tory mps may well put him on the tory mps may well put him on the ballot, but i think the tory membership will say no thanks, crumple it up and throw it in the bin you like. do you know, i actually would put money on robert jenrick getting it. that's interesting. i do think that he is going to be able to say, look, i have the cameroon centrism because he was part of cameron's party coming through . cameron's party coming through. and also i've been pretty robust on immigration as my in my time as immigration minister and i

want us to leave the echr and all these other things. so i think he can marry one, get on to the ballot. but to try and win over the tory party membership as well. but right now, the betting markets are kemi badenoch is going to walk it. yeah. >> and i feel it will be kemi badenoch because i do think the problem with jenrick is he's such a terrible housing minister. i mean, really terrible, messed up so many things on legislation and, and made it so much more difficult for renters. and you know, i think the housing crisis is, is so substantial in people's minds that they haven't quite forgotten about that. and then on the other hand, with kemi badenoch, you know, she she's just so much on equalities and thatis just so much on equalities and that is just such a hot button issue for tory party members. you know, the war on woke. so i can see her being more appealing. >> the one thing suella braverman and many , many viewers braverman and many, many viewers and listeners and please do keep your comments coming in, have commented on is that suella was was a tough talker on immigration and in particular the small boats which we've seen more crossing. we've had more lives lost and people are saying, well, what are labour

going to do? we're hearing a lot of rhetoric. we're not seeing any action yet. >> yeah. they can't even find someone to actually lead this new border force command. right. the guy that was meant to go into the post has just resigned. and the press are saying that actually, maybe this is because he just thought their plans would not come into fruition. nothing would actually happen. and he was someone reportedly, i don't have any evidence of this that did want to actually go ahead with suella braverman's plans because he was brought in under her as home secretary so look, do i think labour are going to stop the boats? listen, i wish i was as sure as winning the lottery, dawn, because i'd have a ticket on right now. they will not solve that, nikki. >> i mean, this is the one conversation that everyone is messaging about today really upset that the labour honeymoon period, if there was one for gb news viewers, is definitely over as far as immigration is concerned? well, they've got this nightmare job of inheriting all these lost migrants for a start, wherever they are in the country, and rounding those up,

stopping the boats, sorting out some, you know , tangible legal some, you know, tangible legal migration routes that might fill some positions, you know, where we need workers, which is obviously something that would appeal to, you know , labour appeal to, you know, labour voters, labour, anybody that supports labour. >> but you are completely right that it seems like it's a poisoned chalice role to try and sort it out. who would possibly want to do that job? and if we've already had one resignation, there's i mean, there'll be someone, but it'll be somebody who's probably quite naive, quite under experienced and a little bit idealistic, and it's all going to kick off with those 90,000 illegal migrants potentially getting amnesty to stay in the country. >> i think that's going to really be a hot wire issue for sir keir starmer of that backlog, but they'll be doing it in a way people won't be that happy with, >> what are your thoughts? you've heard what these two have to say. we want to know your thoughts as well. please do get in touch. and for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, go to our website gb news. dot com. now there's still plenty of time to escape this long british summer day. we've had , because you can day. we've had, because you can

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welcome back to gb news. saturday, beth mead dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now across the pond, us president joe biden has insisted he will stay in the presidential race despite calls from 30 senior democrats to quit . from 30 senior democrats to quit. the ailing leader said he looked forward to return to the campaign trail next week, as he vowed to win that election, joining me now is us political analyst eric hamm to explain. eric, lovely to see you. i haven't spoken to you for a while, how is it going in america with your politics at the moment? is joe biden going to step down? >> there are no signs that biden is actually exiting this race, even though, as you just mentioned , the number of donors mentioned, the number of donors and congressional democrats, democrats continue to rise, calling for him to exit this race. but again, what we continue to see is you've got 14 million people on one hand who have voted for the president versus 30 or so elected

democrats who are calling for him to get out 14 million versus 30, just simply isn't enough to actually move the needle to push actually move the needle to push a sitting president out of office or out of a re—election bid. >> how much are the obamas having to do with this, eric? i mean, you know , we're hearing mean, you know, we're hearing over here that our, obama, who obviously had biden as his vice president , obviously had biden as his vice president, is looking at obviously had biden as his vice president , is looking at the president, is looking at the polls and thinking it might be time for biden to go . time for biden to go. >> yeah, i think what we're seeing here is president biden is really dug in. and i think there's going to be a lot of a lot of clash and a lot of house cleaning when this is all over. in regards to where biden thinks perhaps, maybe some weren't as loyal or as supporters, perhaps that they as they should have been. and i think, we know that at least we have heard that for former president barack obama has spoken to people behind the scenes that biden needs to

actually consider what his plans are, not necessarily the full throated endorsement the president would like, but clearly, what we're seeing here is this is an internal divide that not only is shaping the party, but but could very well actually destroy the party. >> and, eric, while i've got you on just quickly, because i appreciate your time is short with us, donald trump, the republican national convention announcing jd vance as his running mate. what? what's the feeling about the whole trump speech and vance as a running mate? how are americans reacting to that? >> well, people still don't know who jd vance is or much about him . and the speech that he him. and the speech that he gave, was certainly underwhelming and didn't tell many people about him. let alone want to move them to vote for him. as far as the speech that donald trump gave while many people were thinking and hoping that this would be a change person, a more introspective person, a more introspective person, what we saw is it was just more of the same. the

question now is, does the republican ticket get a political bump out of the convention they just held, particularly in light of how bad things are right now for democrats? >> eric, i'm gonna put you on the spot just very quickly. who's going to win in november ? who's going to win in november? >> oh my gosh, i think november is a lifetime. i think we have to figure out who the actual candidates are going to be, because right now, even that's not clear. >> oh eric. very, very tactical answer there. thank you very much. that's a wonderful eric hamm joining us from america in washington, dc. there. and a very, very canny answer. you can tell he's been doing this job for a while now. let's see what my panel make of american politics are compared to our politics. i have nichi hodgson and darren grimes with me still, darren, i'm going to come to you first on this one, eric was playing his cards very close to his chest, though. wasn't he, what do you make of biden? still insisting he's going to run? >> well, when eric said that some in the democratic party haven't been as loyal as they should have been, i thought, well, hang on a minute. they want to actually keep their

positions of power within their electorates and all the rest of it. so you know, they're looking at the data like the obamas have, and the obamas are still an incredibly powerful base within the democratic party. so, you know, they're looking at the polling data, they're looking at the evidence. but it's plain, as you know, crystal clear of biden declining in real time. you look back at the debates from only four years ago, and you think , four years ago, and you think, wow, that he has changed. and i'm not saying that to gloat or with any glee, i find it deeply sad. and i think it's a cruelness of human reality. but that cruelness of human reality probably does preclude you from being the most powerful man in the whole of the western world. so i would agree with the 30 democrats who've come out and said, well, actually, i think we haven't got a hope in hell's chance of winning this if we don't actually get rid of the presidential nominee being

president biden. as simple as that. >> the one person that really does want to keep biden in that position is donald trump and jill and jill. >> exactly . i was thinking >> exactly. i was thinking exactly the same. she's like, oh my gosh, i'm not gonna do the yoko ono thing and blame the woman. well, it's not that she's been waiting a whole life for him to make it to that. i mean, you know, whatever, whatever the reasons are for what's going on with him. he isn't competent. he isn't the right person for the role. but there are lots of problems here. one of them, of course, is that you've already had the preliminary voting, which is, you know, people within the democratic party saying they will have him. but the procedure for getting rid of him is incredibly complicated. it's not like here in britain , it's not like here in britain, where actually you can put a no vote of confidence in about a prime minister. and then if you get enough votes, it goes from the 1922 committee. and then and then, you know, somebody can get pulled out. it doesn't work like that. they're the only person really that can kind of pull the plug. is biden himself. and if he's not in his right mind to you know, be aware that he's not struggling, then he won't . so, i

struggling, then he won't. so, i mean, you know, actually, you know what, eric was saying, november seems a lifetime away in many, in many, many ways. but the other thing is, if for example, somebody else steps in, who will it be? well, kamala harris okay, she's the vp. she's the obvious choice . but would the obvious choice. but would you feel about that? i like personally, you know what what could you point out she's achieved as vice president? >> well, this is a thing. >> well, this is a thing. >> the problem she's had from the beginning, for whatever reason, is that the press have not covered her. and she was so popular at the beginning. you know, it's like, you know, you've got a mixed race woman in here. with biden. this is kind of like the perfect team. and but we know what americans feel about women in politics. they don't like them. they won't vote for them. and there's a big danger that if she was to be, you know, the running candidate, she just wouldn't get voted for on the basis of her gender. but the other question then would be who would her vp be? there's no obvious candidate there either. and then there's gavin newsom. you know, there's alexandria ocasio—cortez. they're the only two or the people that you could see stepping into the role of leader of democrats, the world. >> if it's aoc, you know, she

has the politics of the national union of students . has the politics of the national union of students. i has the politics of the national union of students . i honestly, i union of students. i honestly, i don't think america is a particularly misogynistic. you know, we've had they've had really powerful governors like nikki haley, a female president. they never had a female president. but that's probably because they put up women like kamala harris and hillary clinton, who are used to man nor beast. >> no, sarah palin don't remember her. she you know, she made a good run for it, didn't she? well, she was the vice presidential nominee. >> yes. but i mean, there's an understandable reason why there as well, right? in that she just clearly wasn't up for it. i think kamala harris has been covered by the media. i think there are probably left wing outlets that haven't done that because they do a pr job for the democratic party. but you've seen from kamala harris that she is the well, she sounds basically like a baying hyaena in a lot of the clips that she does. she just laughs hysterically about things. and you're just sort of like, can we actually talk about your role as vice president of the united states of america and not have a

sort of two minute rant about how you want to talk about identity politics and all these other things? that's what people don't like about her. >> there's a lot of that about, isn't there? well, we're running out of time, unfortunately, so we'll leave you with a baying hyaena. yeah. comment good luck. all right. i'm dawn neesom , this all right. i'm dawn neesom, this is gb news saturday. lots more coming up on today's show. but first, yes, it's time for the news headlines once again with tamsin roberts. >> dawn. thank you. here are the headunes >> dawn. thank you. here are the headlines at 230, holidaymakers are being warned to expect disruption as the fallout from yesterday's global it outage continues. flight delays are continuing as airports and other businesses are slowly getting back online. it comes as thousands of families start their summer holidays as schools break up. the glitches were caused by a security update deployed by a company called crowdstrike, which affected users of microsoft's windows software , a yacht carrying

software, a yacht carrying a group of migrants has been seized in the english channel as they attempted to cross illegally from france. footage obtained exclusively by gb news shows. the small 18 foot yacht being towed into dover's harbour by the border force. it comes as hundreds of other small boat migrants launch from the beaches of northern france on what's been another busy day for crossings . the race is on to crossings. the race is on to become the next leader of the conservative party, with two senior figures putting their weight behind. tom tugendhat, steve baker and damian green lost their seats at the election, but they remain influential within the party. and in a joint article published in the telegraph today, they warn the tories mustn't be tempted to veer towards what they call the hard right and should instead select a unifying figure to lead them back into government clouds and cooler weather are back this weekend after yesterday's sweltering

conditions brought the hottest day of the year so far. but heavy rain and bursts of thunder are forecast to hit wales and south—west england today. but if you weren't able to get to the beach yesterday, don't worry. some good news. meteorologists say the warm weather could be back just in time for the end of july. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm tamsin roberts more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, tamsin. i'm just going to ask you a darren is your mum called jean by any chance. oh she's not actually no. >> it just became with a j. so you sort of made me. it's >> it just became with a j. so you sort of made me . it's not you sort of made me. it's not your mum. >> no. darren grimes a joy to listen to, but it's not his mum. >> no, it's not, i promise, i

promise. >> keep those messages coming in, though. you can be nice about anyone on the panel if you want to, but we don't mind. honestly and there's plenty more coming up on today's show. but before i tell you what we have lined up for you, nana akua has joined me in the studio to say what's coming up on her cracking show, which is coming up straight after this one. nana. >> well, we're going to talk about technology and whether we're too reliant on it in so many ways because you saw what happened. it was like a game of jenga. one little bit comes away and then the whole thing kind of collapses. so we want to talk about whether you feel you're too reliant and whether some of those tech giants and so on and so forth are way too powerful. and actually, do governments need to step in and not enable somebody like crowdstrike to have so much control and in such intricate places like the nhs, for example, i have a brilliant guest coming up. if for example, i have a brilliant guest coming up . if you've ever guest coming up. if you've ever wanted to be fantastic on all forms of social media, my guest at 5:00 now, she was homeless. yeah, that's right, she was homeless. she ended up, thankfully on the apprentice and is now an amazing entrepreneur.

she makes a lot of money on social media. she can tell you exactly how you can do it. i don't know whether she'll give it all away, but do stay tuned. have a listen to her and her incredible story. it is phenomenal. plus just stop oil five years. is that enough? i don't think it's long enough. i don't think it's long enough. i don't think it's long enough. i don't think so. they're in another country like china or somewhere like that. five years would be a good sentence. but what do you think? is it too much? >> indeed. that sounds like a brilliant show and i'm going to tune in to that. i need some advice on social media. that's for sure. thank you very much, nana. remember, nana is on at 3:00. now, talking of social media and messaging, let us know all your thoughts on the stories we're talking about today by visiting. really simple gbnews.com/yoursay. we're trying to get the numbers up on here, so please do get in touch. join the conversation or message me on our socials . really easy on our socials. really easy @gbnews. even i can remember that bit now. there's loads more coming up on today's packed show. downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off. that's emails and phone calls after you've clocked off for the day, is this the right

thing to do or are we just getting a little bit lazy in this country? all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news britain's news channel. don't go too far. it's going to get

welcome back to gb news thatcherite with me. dawn neesom on your telly. online and on digital radio. now, the story of the week, wasn't it? it was one that, to be honest with you, terrified the life out of me. i don't trust tech at the best of times. the boss of the cyber security firm responsible for the worldwide it outrage , the worldwide it outrage, outrage, even outrage. it sounds similar and it was, wasn't it, admits it could be some time before all those systems are back up and running. so good luck. if you're travelling anywhere, well, the software bug has been fixed. experts say the manual reboot of each affected microsoft computer. just think about that. we'll take a huge

amount of work. about that. we'll take a huge amount of work . so i'm going to amount of work. so i'm going to come straight to my panel on this. i still have nichi hodgson and darren grimes with me and lots of love in the room for darren here. >> yes, nick is nice too, i promise. i promise she is. >> i don't mind, it's all right. >> i don't mind, it's all right. >> it's fine. we don't mind. yeah. that's fine. whatever, we're not offended. but, the tech, i mean, nikki, this this terrified me. i mean, i, you know, i've read the stephen king book based on something like this, and it didn't have a good ending , how this, and it didn't have a good ending, how are we so reliant on technology that this wasn't even an attack? this was no mistake. that's even more scary. absolutely. >> i think that was the striking thing about the story. and i, having worked in tech, i've worked in tech quite a few times. not i would say any of the kind of computer aspects, but the comms aspect of it. this to me is obviously, evidence of either overworking your staff so that they make mistakes or not having a thorough checking procedure , because actually, procedure, because actually, when you have a team of engineers that are rolling out an update, normally this is what i understand from when i've worked in tech for different

businesses. you know, it goes it's meant to go through several checking processes. >> the problem i'm having, yes. no one says that. i just sent it out. well, blue chip clients. >> and very occasionally this happens because i had something very similar happen to me when i worked for a dating app, actually, they sent an update out that made all lgbt members visible to the authorities in countries where it was illegal to be gay. and i saw it and then had to call the ceo in the middle of the night and was like, turn the button off. you know, it's like, what's the engineer doing kind of thing? and, and sometimes it's just someone who's a bit gung ho, a bit too relaxed in the role, and they've got a lot of authority and they just, you know, press enter. and then this kind of thing happens. so you know, you know okay people do make mistakes. but the whole point of having this kind of business where there's so many people dependent on your service, is that you have a line of checks and balances, and there are multiple people signing something off. yeah. quickly. >> we are running out of time incredibly. but i mean, this this was a sent out by a very you know, they've only been in business 13 years, but they've got huge clients. i mean

airlines, health services around the world. i mean, how did it get through? >> you should never, ever send out an update like this on a friday night like that is just insane. yeah. because then obviously everyone's away at the weekend, and getting them back is like herding cats. so it was clearly a mad decision. but look, i would i would say very briefly two points. that one, i think this proves that we need to have access to cash because there were a lot of people unable to actually get access to money. secondly, and make payments. secondly, i would say that this is a real concern and why we need checks and balances on on artificial intelligence, because can you imagine the more intelligent artificial intelligence get and the more autonomous it becomes sending out an update like this and suddenly everything shuts down, like it's just it doesn't bear thinking about. but our vulnerability is clear. and how the hell did a company as big as microsoft manage to become so

unked microsoft manage to become so linked with this viral antivirus software that it causes all of these machines to go down? i just don't understand. i can't make sense of it. >> slightly worrying. terrifying. well hopefully we've learned our lesson. it won't happen again and we will have checks and balances in place that mean it doesn't happen again, but one of the problems with this was a lot of people working from home and, you know, computers needed to be dealt with by it departments. and if your computer is at home working with you, you're in trouble. that's why it's taking so for long many systems to get up and running. which brings us very neatly onto this subject. are we a nation of lazy brits? downing street has said it will press ahead with plans to give workers ahead with plans to give workers a right to switch off. that's your emails, phone calls from your emails, phone calls from your boss when you walk out of the office or the factory or wherever you happen to be. so let's see what the panel make of this. nicky coming to you first. are we lazy brits? i mean , are we lazy brits? i mean, should we have a right just to ignore any communications from our place of employment as soon as we walk out of the door? >> well, yes we should. i'm

actually really passionate about this. obviously, i work in a job where i have to be on not 24 over seven. we all do, don't we? so it's the irony, i guess, of me espousing it. but when i've done other roles, one of the things that i've really noticed is that presenteeism, it erodes team energy, confidence. there's more opportunity for mistakes, actually, when people are expected to be available all hours, it interferes with family life. people get really discontent. they're more likely to quit the job. you know, we've just done that really interesting, study of the four day week. you know, there were 60 private companies that took part in that. and you know, more than half of them have decided to keep the four day week because they found that the staff are more efficient. productivity, productivity is up and profits are up. crucially, if you're a business. so the reason i'm saying these things is i actually if you give people time to rest, they recoup. their brain is fresh, they come back the next day, they don't hate you. they want to keep working for you . it just makes more for you. it just makes more sense. and remember, france did this a few years ago because they felt actually legislated. yes, exactly , exactly. and yes, exactly, exactly. and i think lots of people you know,

we all have had that. you've just sat down. you've just got to watch eastenders and then you get a text message from your boss and then you're dragged back to that place. you know, everybody needs a bit of time off. >> so, nicky, do you think it's a good thing? darren, i can't think of a single boss i've worked for that would ever think this is a good thing, what do you make of it? >> i mean, i'm not an employer, but i think this is a terrible idea. i think that imagine if this anti virus software had said, oh, well, do you know what it is a friday night. we'll just leave it till monday. it's legislation in law. we have to do it. legislation in law. we have to doit.the legislation in law. we have to do it. the french economy. you know it's been a dirigiste dearth of economic growth. and there's a reason for that because they are regulated to the high hilt. you know, the idea that you'll have someone investigating you for sending out an email to a member of staff saying, i've mislaid x, can you help me find y? you know, it's insane. i think that we are becoming a something for nothing nation. i don't think we realise how poor we are.

actually, we are almost bankrupt. we're almost at 100% of gdp right now. we spent a small fortune unwisely during the pandemic, and we are suffering as a consequence. we have to wake up to the reality that we are going to have to work our way out of this, and i'm afraid if that means being sent a few emails out of hours while you're sat having a pint or, you know, wanting to having your ear chewed off by your missus, it's just the way the cookie is going to have to crumble, i'm afraid about your weekend. well, not right. >> well, you've heard what they've got to say. what do you reckon? are we lazy, or should we have more of a work life balance as nicky said, let us know your thoughts. i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news. there's lots more coming up on today's show. now the royals. prince harry has thanked the departing invictus games boss amid a growing row over a prestigious veterans award and find out what kate's link is with the trump assassination attempt. stay tuned to find out why all of

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welcome back to gb news nato with me . dawn neesom on your tv, with me. dawn neesom on your tv, onune with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now we've saved the best till last for you. the duke of sussex has thanked the invictus games foundation's chief executive. his efforts for wounded, injured and sick service personnel after the charity's boss announced he was stepping down. this comes amid the row over an angry backlash. very angry actually over prince harry received for accepting an honour. the pat tillman award, for his work on the games . also, the other royal the games. also, the other royal story we're talking about front page of the daily mail today is the fact that the, the, the, the person that tried to assassinate donald trump had also been

researching catherine the princess of wales. so we're going to talk about that. and i'm joined now by a rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you very much for coming in and joining me, rafe, to discuss both these. something let's talk about harry first, because that that's the this the case. where is the news story. so let's talk a bit about harry that that hasn't gone away. that rare over that award has it. no. as you say. >> you know, just a few days after he was severely criticised for accepting the special pat tillman award, which is an award given to veterans who've made an impact through sport. and the mother of pat tillman has said that, you know, this is not intended for somebody who is wealthy, privileged, has connections. that's not the sort of person that this award was intended for. admiral lord west over here also said it was something that that he shouldn't have taken, but now, after ten years in the role, his chief executive, dominic reid, has announced that he's stepping down. and dominic reid was the man who essentially turned the victors from being simply an idea into this successful organisation that it is today. with six games across three

continents and also including winter sports, which we'll for see the first time in february. so his departure will be a bit of a major blow, and it's cunous of a major blow, and it's curious that he's leaving just a few months before the actual games in vancouver coming up. yeah, and he was so keen on the winter sports aspect, you'd have thought he might have stayed for a few months more. that's a bit curious. he's also departing before they found his successor, which also raises questions because nobody knows who's going to succeed this time. well, i don't know. you may you may wonder about that, but the timing is quite strange to put it mildly, isn't it? >> yeah. and harry is well known for falling out with people, i believe, now, the other story i want to talk to you about rafe is the front page of the mail today with the trump shooter, was searching for the princess of wales online and looking at pictures of her. she was the only non—american that he was looking at and the only non—political figure he was looking at. the rest were biden and trump. and as we know, the

consequences as to what happened when he was researching trump. so what do you make of this? i mean, it sounds quite scary. >> it's a disturbing story because, as you say, you know , because, as you say, you know, the princess of wales is the only person in this country, the only person in this country, the only royal that has been singled out by by this individual who , out by by this individual who, of course, was also looking at various other people within america , whether there were america, whether there were potential targets or not. we don't know. but it does actually raise the issue of how secure are members of our royal family, because of course , we expect because of course, we expect presidential candidates and presidents in america to have the full force. the considerable might of the secret service . might of the secret service. there are roles are much more accessible. you know her royal highness was just at wimbledon. yes. how good is the security at wimbledon? i mean, you know, the wimbledon? i mean, you know, the wimbledon security aren't necessarily royal protection officers, are they? i mean, there'll be a coterie around the princess of wales. we just had the state opening of parliament obviously with the king and queen very vulnerable going down the mall. normally you'll have the mall. normally you'll have the princess royal, princess

anne just on horseback. well, trooping of the colour and at trooping of the colour and at trooping the colour. so there are i, you know, obviously we have extremely good security services in this country. but it's moments like these which actually make me wonder , actually make me wonder, actually, if this thing could get so close to president trump in america, do we actually need to consider the relationship that we have with the monarchy in terms of we want to preserve the informality, the degree of informality, the ability to go and shake a hand and present a bunch of flowers. but these are scary events . luckily, of scary events. luckily, of course, these things happen more in america than they do over here. >> well, thankfully, there was no sign he was travelling to the uk. but you know, it is a worrying story . uk. but you know, it is a worrying story. thank you very much for joining worrying story. thank you very much forjoining us, rafe heydel—mankoo. there on all things royal for us. well, thank you for watching. i've been dawn neesom on gb news saturday and i really appreciate your time and all of your comments today. thank you, but don't go anywhere. there's plenty more coming up on gb news today. just a minute. coming up 3:00. it's nana akua then it's a saturday five, and i'm back with you

tomorrow for lunchtime. but first, what's the weather going to be like or honour. go on, give us the good news. hopefully it is. enjoy the rest of your weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, it's certainly been an unsettled start to the weekend, but the good news is it is going to be turning brighter from sunday and the reason for this unsettled start is because we have this waving frontal feature draped across western parts of the uk, and this is slowly moving its way eastwards. and this is bringing a fair amount of rain across the west, which is slowly moving towards the north—east of the country. still could see some heavy downpours on this rain into the evening as it does so, but generally it is turning drier still. a fair amount of cloud around though, particularly across central and southern parts of the uk, where it'll still be feeling quite mild, but where it starts to turn clearer across northern ireland and

parts of scotland, it's going to be feeling a little bit cooler now to start sunday morning pretty cloudy across the south and across central areas. a few dnps and across central areas. a few drips and drabs of rain and drizzle, but as that cloud clears it will be turning brighter, particularly across parts of the west and parts of wales. still a little bit cloudier across northern ireland and a few showers starting to feed in across western parts of scotland. but on the whole it is generally turning drier away from the northern isles, where they'll see quite a damp start and that rain will continue to clear its way north eastwards through sunday morning. but on the whole a much drier, brighter day and generally some sunny spells breaking through that cloud through the morning. a bit of a different story across northern ireland. we'll start to see cloud thicken and it will turn quite damp into the afternoon too, but on the whole afternoon too, but on the whole a much fresher feeling day with some sunny spells, some slightly cooler temperatures, but still feeling warm where you do catch the sunshine. as we progress into the evening though, that rain that hits northern ireland

into the afternoon will start to feed into western parts of scotland. still a few showers here in the far north—west of scotland too, but on the whole another dry night. plenty of clear spells. we'll be feeling a little bit fresher than of late, too . quite a changeable week too. quite a changeable week ahead with some slightly cooler temperatures. but temperatures are on the rise and where you catch the sunshine it will still be warm. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza, in a few moments time i'll be marking the week. and of course we've got so many things going on. we've had two weeks of labour government, small boat crossings continue to rise and trump at a brush with death. we get to hear him on his first ever conference afterwards, former mp, conservative mp miriam cates will also be joining me live for the political spotlight . and the political spotlight. and we'll be talking about the tory party's demise. i mean , can they party's demise. i mean, can they can they even get it together? are they even relevant then, at my difficult conversation, this week, jennylyn artigas, now she was homeless and abandoned in london, but now she's rebuilt her life and is thriving as an onune her life and is thriving as an online entrepreneur. can't wait to hear all the tips. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tamsin roberts . latest news with tamsin roberts. >> nala, thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it'sjust

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