made a american hulk hogan made a rousing speech at the republican convention. i wonder if rishi's regretting not asking big daddy to back him. and the leeds riots showed how some people just think that they're above the law. like this guy who's caught on camera trying to set fire to a bus . where were the police? a bus. where were the police? this is your saturday night showdown . showdown. and discussing alternate topics with me are my brilliant panel joining me tonight. he's got a big brain, and he talks like he's on cocaine. it's andrew eborn. look at him there with his magic wand. plus the one who only looks like one and only is susie kennedy. the comedian and marilyn monroe impersonator. first, let's get your latest news headlines from tatiana

sanchez. >> leo, thank you very much. and good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. yesterday's it outage affected almost 8.5 million microsoft devices, according to the tech giant. the company added the figure represents less than i% of all windows machines, but it was enough to spark chaos at many of the world's airports. flight delays are still persisting as airlines and other businesses slowly get back onune businesses slowly get back online in time for the summer holidays. banks, supermarkets and even major television and radio broadcasters were among the many others who were also knocked off line yesterday. nhs england is expecting disruption to gp services to continue into next week . in other news, next week. in other news, a yacht has been seized in the engush yacht has been seized in the english channel carrying a group of migrants trying to cross illegally from france. footage obtained exclusively by gb news shows the 18 foot yacht as it

was towed into dover's harbour by the border force. our producer counted 86 migrants disembarking from the force's vessel. it comes as hundreds of other migrants launch from the beaches of northern france in small boats. the third busy day of illegal crossings this week. police in south gloucestershire are appealing for help in the search for a prisoner who escaped from hmp leyhill yesterday. gary rotham, who's 42 years old, was serving sentences for driving, robbery and burglary offences . he was last burglary offences. he was last seen just before 5:00 yesterday afternoon and was wearing a dark nike polo shirt, dark jogging bottoms and black trainers. police say he should not be approached and they're urging anyone with information to get in touch with them or crime stoppers in the us , reports stoppers in the us, reports suggest. nancy pelosi has told colleagues she'd prefer a competitive process to find a replacement for president joe biden if he drops out. the

former house speaker is understood to have pushed for an open primary instead of directly nominating vice president kamala harris. that could see several candidates from within the democratic party compete for the chance to face donald trump. with just 107 days until the election . it comes as the number election. it comes as the number of democrats calling on president biden to stand aside reaches 35 amid dwindling poll numbers back home pay increases in the public sector could cost around £10 billion, which is believed to be more than the government had forecast. independent pay review bodies are reportedly set to recommend pay are reportedly set to recommend pay rises of 5.5% for teachers, and nhs staff, but schools and hospitals are unlikely to be able to meet the increase with their existing budgets without making cuts. it could represent a significant challenge for rachel reeves first budget after promising to clamp down on borrowing and ruling out a string of tax rises during the election campaign and highs of

26 or 27 degrees have been forecast for some parts of the uk next week, with the weather to improve for the start of the summer holidays. as clouds and cooler weather have returned this weekend after the hottest day of the year so far yesterday, the met office says temperatures reached almost 32 degrees in central london. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you, tatiana and welcome to the saturday night showdown. conspiracy theories are swirling around the attempted trump assassination from both the left and the right. people on the left accused trump of staging the shooting to improve his own

election prospects. biden's former cybersecurity expert jackie sing posted this. this is a distraction from the epstein files and project 2025, an attempt to further anger his base and a new way to attack leftists . i doubt this very leftists. i doubt this very much. trump was already winning the election. he was way out aheadin the election. he was way out ahead in the polls. you'd think he'd hire some weird 20 year old guy to shoot him from 400ft away. imagine that conversation. yeah, just make sure you just clip my ear. i mean, that sounds a little bit risky to me. some people on the right have claimed that this must be an organised assassination attempt. i doubt that very much, too. we know hillary didn't order it because if she did, trump would be dead. and we know biden didn't order it because if he did, kamala would be dead. he gets those two mixed up sometimes. also, if the democrats did organise an assassination, it would probably be for joe biden, who, let's be honest, is more of a threat to them staying in power than trump is. the secret service dropped the ball here. they reportedly didn't have surveillance or men on the rooftop used by the

shooter, despite it being an obvious vantage point and members of the public told authorities they saw the shooter on the roof half an hour before the shooting. but the shooter wasn't apprehended. some on the right have said that it points to an order from on high for the secret service to stand back and not protect trump. i can understand this line of thought. there is some precedent for this . there is some precedent for this. in april, some democrats tried to remove secret service protection from trump to make it easier for assassins to kill him. presumably, and democrats denied repeated requests for more secret service protection to keep trump safe, which in retrospect, looks pretty terrible. it seems much more likely, however, that the poor functioning of the secret service was down to the mad rush for diversity, equity and inclusion that is gripped all organisations in the west, where competent, still pale male job candidates are passed over in favour of forced diversity and you end up with people unable to holster their gun. look at this

video . oh, that was like video. oh, that was like a netflix remake of a secret service. like starring melissa mccarthy. unable to get her gun into the holster, they're more like a sassy service than a secret service. it's ridiculous. it's donald trump is six foot two, but they had women a foot shorter than him trying to stop bullets. i mean, i guess his kneecaps were safe. but if you want diversity, surely this would be a supreme opportunity to hire a six foot five trans woman like me. the secret service head, kimberly cheatle, bragged about implementing diversity with an aim of getting 30% female recruits to expand hiring. >> they're aiming to have 30% women recruits by 2030, and even allowed youtube influencer michelle carter to train with ages. >> but i'm very conscious as as i sit in this chair now of making sure that we need to attract diverse candidates .

attract diverse candidates. >> although it's worth noting that after the shooting, trump's security detail didn't have a single five foot three woman protecting him . look at this. protecting him. look at this. it's all big, solid looking blokes protecting him at the republican national convention. so no, i don't think that this was an inside job. i just think that this is the incompetence that this is the incompetence that stems from the end of meritocracy. i mean, unless the assassin was also a diversity, eqtu assassin was also a diversity, equity and inclusion hire, maybe things are just so bad that you can't put up an ad for a hitman anymore. you've got to prioritise hiring a trans identifying neurodivergent hit person . i'm joined tonight by person. i'm joined tonight by andrew eborn, the lawyer, the magician, the polymath, the polymath . polymath. >> i love your introduction. he's got a big brain. he sounds like he's on cocaine. i thought, wow, who writes these lines? it's brilliant stuff, but i'll take it. it's gotta be good. >> and we've also got susie

kennedy, who's a comedian and one of the one of the world's premiere marilyn monroe , the premiere marilyn monroe, the only one, the only one. >> i'm interested because you usually got left and right. mind the left. tonight. >> you are? yes. you are . >> you are? yes. you are. >> finally. yeah. >> finally. yeah. >> so how are you both doing? >> so how are you both doing? >> i'm phenomenally well. it's such a joy. i tell you what, we love doing this show and the amount we have to pay to get on here is absolutely brilliant. >> now, looking at the issue with the trump assassination, a lot of leftists actually got in trouble for posting jokes about the trump assassination. some people are saying , because people are saying, because obviously cancel culture is something that's traditionally affected people on the right a lot more than people on the left. but we're seeing people getting fired from their jobs. even jack black's bandmate in tenacious d, tenacious d, is no more now, and i'm quite sad, isn't it? >> because his name is gas, which is quite appropriate when you talk about trump? because in america, trump means to. so something called gas making gags about it. the reality is it was about it. the reality is it was a comedy moment. it's supposed to be funny and it's always used to be funny and it's always used to say george carlin used to say, the secret of comedy is

knowing where the line is and going above it. yeah. so people are instantly going to be making jokes about it. whereas trumpet, we're not quite sure he's got this enormous bandage on. you're working in lots of places, jack black and his relationship with that guy who's been going for on years, he's suddenly just dismissed him, throw him under the bus. >> so do you think jack black should have stood by his band mate? >> i think he should have turned around and said we were discussing this earlier. he should have turned around and said, it's a joke. it's an ill informed joke. he maybe shouldn't have done it. it was too soon and so on and so forth. >> but also it wasn't much of a joke. he just sort of said, oh, you know, don't miss next time. or worst, i think there's more going on than this. >> i think it's, you know, you've just got a band mate that you've just got a band mate that you just want to get rid of. they might. they're just like, god, just do something wrong. and there's like finally shows oven and there's like finally shows over. yeah, i just think you've got that, mate. you know, the mate you're always trying to get rid of. you just need them to mess up. >> i think it's a good point, but it was his birthday. this is the thing. so he was present. i saw the video. he was present to get him a present, that cake on

stage and said, make a wish. and so spur of the moment he made that gag. it wasn't a very good 939- that gag. it wasn't a very good gag. yeah, but the whole australian tour got cancelled. jack black will never speak to him again. >> it's a bit over the top, but then people are saying the reaction to leftist cracking jokes, you know, basically saying that they wish donald trump had been shot. don't miss next time, whatever it is, people are saying, oh, it's over the top, but can you imagine, can you imagine if, you know, a right wing person if i'd have come out on stage after an assassination attempt on obama or an after an assassination attempt on a on a left wing politician, and that was, you know, almost succeeded. i mean, let's not forget there, but for the grace of god, if trump had just turned his head the other way. >> this is the irony. if you look at all the tweets and you look at all the tweets and you look at all the tweets and you look at the people that are saying like, oh, he should have missed and the wishes, all their bios say, be kind. yeah yeah it is. >> but but also, you've got to put this in context, because today there's been that appalling murder of the divisive far right politician in ukraine. and her name's iryna farion. so the politicians and people in the politicians and people in the public are getting killed is not right. we had jo cox over here. we had obviously amos as well and that sort of stuff. it is appalling humour, however, is that dark sort of space.

whenever there's a tragedy, people are going to come out with a comedy and it's both sides. when they talk about the profession, it's always the tragedy and the comedy, and that's sometimes how people cope with things. >> yeah, and looking at looking at the incompetence around this, the secret service, i mean, it's ridiculous . ridiculous. >> and kimberly cheatle, the head of the secret service, came out and said they couldn't put men on the roof where the sniper was because there was a slight slope on it. so there was health and safety issues. they thought if there were, if there's one group of the of the, you know, the government that you think isn't going to be too worried about health and safety, it's people who are taking out snipers. >> the secret service watching those clips, though , about the those clips, though, about the male and female, you know me, i'm a feminist. i think you know, equality for women. but there's certain things that women physically can't do. and if we're looking at the english, police force, you do see women being spun around by criminals and, you know , if i'm trying to and, you know, if i'm trying to arrest you, it's not going to work out. it doesn't mean i'm a bad policewoman, but i'm probably going to lose that fight. and we just. and it's

just we're not. and that's why when he's been shot at, he's like, do you know what? because i think trump does support women's equality. i think he's done some things that are. but i don't think he's out there not. but if you just nearly be shot you're like, yeah, just think i'll get the boys in for this. >> yeah. i think he treats all women equally. i think that's probably a fair comment, but, but, but the reality is this there was an appalling oversight, and it's nothing to do with being physically whatever it was less than 100m. i think it was 100 yards away from the stage. it was an obvious place where you're going to have a sniper. so why it wasn't looked at. >> there are swarming questions for like half an hour before members of the public had seen this guy climb up on the roof, trump hair and that. >> yeah, yeah, we alerted them to this guy. >> we were alerting the police half an hour before. apparently, part of the reason is that the secret service have to work in conjunction with local law enforcement , because they're enforcement, because they're stretched really thin. the secret service now have to guard, you know, people like joe biden's grandchildren have to have their own secret service detail protecting them. so they're stretched really thin. so they've got to work with local law enforcement and the

immediate vicinity around the immediate vicinity around the immediate perimeter, around trump, that secret service. then if you go a bit further, it's local law enforcement. so apparently the members of the pubuc apparently the members of the public were informing the local police who were, you know, running in circles and banging into each other and all the rest of the eyewitness report. but then we also saw the secret service. i mean, they've had this big push for diversity for 30% female representation, but i don't think they're hiring the best people for the job. i think they're hiring people that tick that box, that tick that 30% female representation, because we saw them fumbling , couldn't we saw them fumbling, couldn't get the guns back in the holsters. we saw them flapping around. we saw the photograph of one of them was instead of throwing herself over the president to protect him from bullets, she's sort of hunkered down, hiding, hiding behind him. almost. >> i don't think she's hiding because she's a woman. i just think she's hiding because it's frightening. oh, i'd be hiding, too. and she might not want to die for donald trump. >> no, but i'd be hiding, too. >> no, but i'd be hiding, too. >> but that's why i shouldn't be a secret service agent. you know what i mean? i don't think if you have some sort of. if you have some sort of quota where 30% of secret service have to be lanky scottish people, then you

know you're going to get the same, the same issue happening. but this is not about the physical protection. >> this is about the intelligence beforehand. so if you're seeing somebody on a roof and it doesn't matter what you are on that sort of thing, the reality is they could have stopped that. it makes no sense at all. they're going to have a special report in the next few days. they've been ordered to come and present that special report because there's so many questions to be answered, not least how on earth a sniper got on as they say, 100 yards away from the stage. when it's an obvious place, it's slope or no slope, and that needs to be looked at. and also the secret service snipers seem to have no problem , being on a roof that problem, being on a roof that had a bigger slope on it and then and then shooting him. >> it's weird. it's also strange that they let him take the shots because it looked like, you know , because it looked like, you know, it looked like they had him in their sights, but they waited until he took the shots before they shot him. >> and what we have to remember in all of this, the tragedy, as i say, it's always a combination of the human stuff and also the tragedy. somebody did lose their life that day as well, and other people were injured and they lost the family as a result of it. and it is horrendous. so absolutely call out on all

sides. what's interesting is how they've turned down the rhetoric. and by doing this, backtracking on what he said about having him in the crossfire and things like that, and said, we didn't mean that, and said, we didn't mean that, just got to get the bull's eye focus on trump and the language, i think for politicians now is going to be dialled down. and i heard trump, he's a different man in terms of how he's speaking to people now. rhetoric. it's a rhetoric on that. >> the girl from orange is the new black needs to come out and apologise because she caused called for him to be assassinated. wow and no. yeah. so i do read some news yesterday. i've already. he didn't know that montel williams went out with, who's the vice went outwith, who's the vice president ? kamala. oh, is it president? kamala. oh, is it kamala? yeah >> and of course we're not. we're not you know, i'm not in any way suggesting that, you know, women can't, can't do just as good a job as a, as a man in the secret service. but i do think the secret service kind of admitted that they they'd done some forced diversity instead of hiring meritocratic, meritocratic. they've done some forced diversity, by the way, the when trump reappeared, when he, you know, when they'd had the attempted assassination, his

new security detail was all big brother. they were he's like, why? why weren't the women there ? why? why weren't the women there? >> the optics were on were strange with that sort of stuff. i don't i think it has to be a meritocracy we always say about. but but i don't think the failings were because of the diversity. i think the failing was information. well this is it and the diversity is good. >> but people are certain people are good for certain jobs. i can't protect julio. right. and this is the thing i can't you're physically i probably couldn't arrest you. you're physically stronger than me. so lots of grounds. >> i can help you legally. >> i can help you legally. >> there's lots of things that women can do, and there's lots of things that i mean, we talk about not looking at things in the in the manchester arena bombings, there was warnings and they were ignored. so we're not saying that, you know, everything's going to be perfect. but if i was wanting to be just walking home, i'm glad when i leave sometimes with you and with you, i feel safer. i wouldn't feel so safe living with a girl. >> you're so right, susie. and we've spoken about this before, and you have to actually celebrate the differences and embrace those, because women are a lot better at certain things than men, you know? and you work on that principle. let's let's embrace that. and we should be blind. but it has to make sure

it's a meritocracy. >> you need meritocracy has to be the way. yeah. you can't have forced diversity anyway , coming forced diversity anyway, coming up, we will assess the week's winners and losers. this week. we've got a leeds rioter trying to burn a bus. hulk hogan brings us trump mania and just stop oil are going to be doing some porridge. and we'll show you what happened when a robot approached a nice bunch of lads on the street. see you in a minute. are you man, how you doing? >> i apologise if there was any confusion. i am an ai language model developed by openai for chatgpt. i am to provide information. the questions, engage in conversations

>> on mark dolan tonight. in my opinion, the founder of just stop oil has gone to jail for five years. my reaction, my mark menzies guest is the top professor with a cure for anxiety . and it might take at anxiety. and it might take at ten, after a flurry of scandals. will the bbc be forced to act strictly come dancing? plus my top pundits and tomorrow's papers. it takes two to tango.

i'll see you at nine. >> welcome back to the saturday night showdown . crystal blast is night showdown. crystal blast is coming up. but first i promised i would show you what happened next. when a robot had a chat with a bunch of lads. >> ai language model developed by openai. i bucha dougie beattie. i am here to provide information. answer the questions, engage in conversations and. >> whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa , robot. wait wait wait whoa whoa, robot. wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait no no no i said fantastic. >> i'm less worried about artificial intelligence taking over the world now. it's not so much of a threat to humanity when you can just pile drive the robot into the pavement. exactly. >> people are worried about artificial intelligence. well, there you go. we've got no intelligence at all next to artificial intelligence. you know what's going to win? extraordinary stuff. anyway. >> there's no time to go through the winners and losers of the week. there were riots in leeds on thursday. thousands of people took to the streets and flipped

police cars and burned anything not nailed down. and this guy was filmed setting fire to a bus. take a look at this. why do we. >> what are you doing? what are you doing ? yo, what are you you doing? yo, what are you doing ? doing? >> jesus , jesus, look at jesus. >> jesus, jesus, look at jesus. another thousands of people on the street. >> i saw some of the other footage that was spreading around social media. thousands of people in the street and the police turned up. and then they seemed to retreat. i was i mean, i was shocked that, you know , we i was shocked that, you know, we don't have the forces in place in this country to deal with something like this. >> i know what made me laugh more is they're going, what are you doing? what are you doing? he's setting fire to a bus. it's pretty clear what he's doing. >> can you believe how brazen he is? >> he's being filmed. his face is in full view. i mean, it's shocking. >> it was bizarre, but it was the biggest fail ever, because he was sort of there. it was sort of one way, one sort of arsonist comes along, you get three at once, you know? but they all tried and they had little lighter and nothing was happening. and if you look at that video a bit later on,

there's somebody trying to set light to the back of it as well. and neither of them were successful. right. but in terms of criminals and a defence lawyer is going to have an interesting time defending these two arsonists. there's a lot of arson around who's going to turn around and say, you work on that sort of basis? so there they are. they're doing in that sort of stuff. there's virtually no defence at all if you're looking at that sort of thing. but what at that sort of thing. but what a fail. and thank goodness they failed. they are appalling scenes in leeds. failed. they are appalling scenes in leeds . everybody's scenes in leeds. everybody's gone feral on that sort of principle, which is really dangerous. >> what's the bus done though? >> what's the bus done though? >> i'm not too sure what the bus did . did. >> i'm just seeing an opportunity to burn anything. i don't know if that bus ended up burning though. it seems that one up a good defence. another one up a good defence. another one did. >> i think that one was pretty good. yeah, because the other burning bus that went viral that that that the burning bus. >> there it is. >> there it is. >> there's the burning. there's a burning bus. but it's not that one. yeah, it's a different bus. so you have a look at the one that they set light to, or the guy was trying to set light to that didn't get burnt at all. >> right, right. so it's obviously got some sort of, set out its defence mechanism. it's anti lighter. yes. like squid ink. but some of the i mean i was shocked by the, by the lack

of police presence. the police turned up and then seemed to retreat as well. and some people said that the police the police presence escalated, escalated things. but really, you know, i think a solid police presence would have stopped this happening before it had properly started . started. >> i didn't know that they'd said that we withdrew to calm it down because i'm not. >> no, that's what was reported in the read in the guardian that they said, i mean obviously this is the guardian. so it's not entirely unbiased. you read the guardian finally. >> well done, well done, well done. >> you read it at all. exactly >> you read it at all. exactly >> but they said that the police presence, escalated things and that you could argue that could be true because sometimes. >> but if they're actually rioting and setting to fire buses, you have to have a police presence. so i saw them drive. i didn't personally see them with my own eyes, but i saw them on the internet, just literally went, you know what? this is a bit rough. let's go. and you hear the people go, the police are leaving us. >> it's a sign of our times because the way it all started was somebody taken to social services. so kids being taken

away. so if you saw that original thing and then the whole people came out. but the world is a tinderbox at the moment and the slightest thing can make people just riot. i mean, and they start looting. and that's got nothing to do with taking the kids away for social services and stuff like that. you've got to work on the bafis that. you've got to work on the basis that we've got to handle these things with sensitivity. >> but do you think, do you think this is an example of multiculturalism failing because we've been told that, you know, diversity is this incredible strength, but in fact, we're seeing a lot of sectarian conflict in the uk now that we didn't used to have all right. we had celtic versus rangers, but it's not quite, quite the same thing. and we're seeing here, you know this is a depnved here, you know this is a deprived part of leeds with people rioting in the streets . people rioting in the streets. >> i think the reality, leo, is that people are waiting , that that people are waiting, that people are so like coiled springs, that the slightest thing is going to set people off. so you have to take the steam out of these sort of situations. and i don't know why . situations. and i don't know why. rather than just taking this, being the kids being led out sort of footage of this as well, being led out big streets, everybody filming it all coming around shouting at the police. there must have been a quieter , there must have been a quieter, more subtle way of doing it. people in the community need to

work out the way that you can diffuse these situations, because it is actually horrendous. this is it though, because the only time that, i mean, i grew up in a poor community, the only time you see police is when they're the aggressor. >> so if they're coming to arrest someone, if they're coming to take somebody for a speeding ticket or a fine, you never see them turn up to help you.so never see them turn up to help you. so that is a lot of anger. so when the police are there, they're like, well, actually, you probably are inflaming things because you never come here to ever help us, right? >> and that's the problem. you're absolutely right. because trust is at an all time low in politicians, in the media and the police. and i always say , i the police. and i always say, i do always say trust comes in on foot and leaves on horseback. yeah. and what they now thank you. it's good. copyright and reward. the reality is that you need to build up that trust. we need to build up that trust. we need to build up that trust. we need to get communities back together again. we're actually turn on and say, look, if the kids need to go into social service, i don't know all the circumstances. do it a bit more subtly. don't leave them out in that sort of stuff. and in a situation which is already very, very delicate and that we're going to get more of this, and the more you show it in the media, more people are going to

say, hang archewell, we're all so angry about whatever it is, and we're going to do things, and we're going to do things, and we're going to do things, and we have lazy trust. >> it's like painting a police car with a rainbow flag. it's lazy trust. it's like we like gay people. there's a there's a rainbow car that's not actually doing anything. it's not. >> i don't think people should trust the police so much. >> i mean, if you go to if you go to other countries, people don't have this trust of the police. they have fear of the police. they have fear of the police. and why i think we need to bring that back, because the police go around and they whack people with sticks. and if you get if you report a crime to them, you get punched in the face and money taken off you. and maybe we need to bring that back anyway. is the republican national convention this week. and who better to show support for donald trump than the realest american of all? hulk hogan? let's take a look. >> but what happened last week when they took a shot at my hero and they tried to kill the next president of the united states. enough was enough. >> and i said, let trump mania run wild, brother. let trump

mania rule again. let trump mania rule again. let trump mania make america great again . mania make america great again. >> that's what i'm talking about. i mean , that's that's about. i mean, that's that's amazing. that guy's 70 years old. look at that. look at the guns on that. i don't know how he got those guns past security. now, democrats mocked this, but it's surely not as embarrassing as jack black in a romper suit, which is what we got at the democrat conference. now, susie, do you think trump is inevitable at this point? i mean, surely there's no way he can lose the election. you win. but have you seen idiocracy, the movie idiocracy? >> i feel like it's coming true because the guy that ends up being the president was a wwe wrestler, and he was talking like that, and ripping his shirt. i feel like, are we in like a truman show or something? >> but don't we? >> but don't we? >> don't we need that? we need some testosterone back in politics, was that a moustache or was he sucking a ferret? >> no, that was glorious. what people miss, though, is jd vance, which sounds like a cheap sportswear department store, doesn't it? and he's . now he sportswear department store, doesn't it? and he's. now he did that road to damascus moment. because if you looked at some of

the comments he was making in 2016, he called trump an american hitler. he talked about he talked he said he was an he wouldn't he was a never trumper. and what i loved about it, the most persuasive thing is when people you have that road to damascus moment, he was a convert. so everybody brought up those old quotes with him and he said, well, in 2016, that's what i felt. but then donald became the most glorious president i've ever seen. >> but then donald offered me this job and they offered me this job and they offered me this job. >> and also i thisjob. >> and also i realised this job. >> and also i realised that the media have been lying about donald all this time. that's what he said. so all of a sudden, j.d. vance, who will be the youngest president if he steps into. well, he'll be the youngest one of the one of the youngest one of the one of the youngest vice presidents if trump steps down. right. because teddy roosevelt was the youngest 42 information here and teddy roosevelt and jd. vance is 39 at the moment. so if trump gets elected and i predict that he will, he predictably will. what's going to happen if trump only does like two years and jd comes in? >> you think trump's going to be like he would be the one who gives you the impression that trump is going to be like, you know what, i just want two years just to make my prediction true.

we've got a good relationship. >> it's like he'd be brilliant. and i do think the two of them together are absolute. it's very interesting . but people will interesting. but people will know him from hillbilly elegy. >> yeah, he's a blue collar guy. he's very popular across the old democrat base of, you know, the post—industrial blue collar, you know, white working class. >> and in the same way as he did it with pence last time around, what trump is doing is brilliantly. it's appealing to people who would not normally vote for him. yeah. so when he did, pence basically was he was not getting the christian side. the fundamental christians, because trump had a number of marriages and so on. and so forth. so it didn't work on that basis. so he got pence to work on that sort of thing . what jd on that sort of thing. what jd vance is doing is bringing ohio and philadelphia and various other states, which are marginals. yeah. so he's being very clever and strategic on that sort of basis. >> so it's a good move by trump? no. after years of wishy washy light touch sentences for climate activists , five just climate activists, five just stop oil members have been sent down for some serious time, including the co—founder of the group, roger hallam, who was sentenced to five years imprisonment, while the other four defendants were each handed four defendants were each handed four years. they were sentenced for their roles in the m25

protest, which saw traffic being blocked with an economic cost of at least £765,000, and a cost to the metropolitan police of more than £11 million. and to add inqu than £11 million. and to add insult to injury, the protesters were driven from the courtroom in a diesel van. they must have hated that. that was probably worse than getting getting all the time. now. do you think this will make the rest of just stop oil calm down a bit? >> well, i think it's a good idea because what i'm worried about, i was saying to andrew earlier, is they're releasing prisoners at the moment because. so it's like a conveyor belt. so they're going to go in and they're going to go in and they're like release some like really dodgy criminal out into society. >> these are really dodgy criminals. >> they are. but they're just annoying. they're not. they're not a threat to my safety or yours. they are. >> what if you're in an ambulance? >> you know you're having a heart. >> i agree being rushed to hospital, but you can't get there because some tarquin or esmeralda's sitting on the floor. >> i agree, but then that's up to the police to grab them and move them. right. what i mean is, they're not a danger to society. what's the danger? that unless. >> unless you need to get to a hospital. >> exactly. but they should move

them. so the failing is not just stop oil. the failing is how we deau stop oil. the failing is how we dealt with just stop oil. >> so now you're absolutely right, susie. and the problem is this is that even those who supported their mission, most people i've interviewed, lots of the different just stop oil people, most people absolutely object to their tactics. it was absolutely appalling . and even absolutely appalling. and even those who support the mission will turn around and do it. bizarrely with this government, they're achieving their objective because a lot of the oil contracts and so on and so forth are now being stopped. yeah. and you need to look at that sort of side. but you make a brilliant point about jails being overcrowded already. you're putting them all in there. you have to boot out the real tough criminals as well. but the point, i mean, those criminals are being booted out anyway. >> i mean, the sentences are being are being shortened. that's just a policy across the board. and i think we need to stop just stop oil and to stop other activists who don't all have their head screwed on right at all. i mean, just stop oil fair enough. you know , i'm not fair enough. you know, i'm not i'm not doubting, i'm not debating whether climate change is happening. i'm debating whether we need mass communism and the complete shutdown of western civilisation to stop it.

i think. i think it'd be better to just deal with it and ameliorate it. >> and you take your point, though , susie. it is a danger to though, susie. it is a danger to life. and as leo says, if an ambulance cannot get somebody who's had a heart attack to that hospital because somebody decided to glue themselves in the road, that person could die. and that's a risk to life. >> but putting them people in prison, what they're costing the taxpayer, they're sitting in a prison, they're going to sit together and make plans to do more. they should do it. they should be doing something. i just think sitting in prison. what? unless you're a dangerous criminal, you can't make them break rocks. >> make them do something, not make them . make them work in an make them. make them work in an oil rig. >> exactly . wouldn't work. >> exactly. wouldn't work. >> exactly. wouldn't work. >> well, there you go. right. >> well, there you go. right. >> anyway, next on the saturday night showdown, we've got culture corner with a council worker fired over his pronouns. fat ballet dancers and while the police didn't show up at the leeds riots, they are getting paid to go on pride parades. plus, i'll show you what happened next. when a russian combat helicopter flew over a crimean beach. stay tuned to see the

welcome back to the saturday night showdown. culture corner is coming up. but first, i promised i would show you what happened when a russian helicopter flew over a packed tourist beach. take a look at this . this. the first casualty of war is picnics. >> i think you can agree there. >> i think you can agree there. >> and it's terrible when you put your stuff out in the beach and then, you know, bit of wind picks up and all of a sudden you've got sand. >> not good, is it? yeah. >> not good, is it? yeah. >> why were they so low? what was that about? do you know some war going on over there. >> yes. something like that. >> yes. something like that. >> yeah. they're probably trying to avoid them. >> they're trying to get their towels down early to avoid any patriot missiles by flying low over the tourist beach. >> anyway, is there anything more annoying than being asked by your work to put your pronouns in your email signature? it's insulting. as if people don't know i'm a woman

andifs people don't know i'm a woman and it's not going to help anyone. it's compelled speech. it's forcing you to bow down at the altar of gender ideology . so the altar of gender ideology. so it's understandable when people push back. one man, james orwin, an it worker for east riding of yorkshire council, did just that when his boss sent a round robin email round telling staff to consider adding pronouns to your email signature should you wish to do so. he changed his email footer to x, y chromosome guy slash adult human male rather than the usual he slash him. he was suspended for this and then sacked after refusing to remove his protest pronouns. after bosses warned that they posed a serious risk to the transgender community. his claim of unfair dismissal has been thrown out by a tribunal now serious risk to the trans community. i mean , the trans community. i mean, who's going to see an email with pronouns which , to be honest, pronouns which, to be honest, could be perfectly valid pronouns. if they them as a pronoun, then surely x y chromosome guy is a valid pronoun .

pronoun. >> you know how i feel about this, right? but about this trans thing. but you got there was a really there was a really, really key word there. consider. yeah. so if it said you must i could understand him or you're a lawyer, you're like , i am. there lawyer, you're like, i am. there was because it did say consider. and so i just went to a comedy thing getting together and everyone introduced themselves with their name and their pronoun. yes, god, i know i didn't. i just said i'm suzy and i left it . no didn't. i just said i'm suzy and i left it. no one. a few didn't. i just said i'm suzy and i left it . no one. a few people i left it. no one. a few people went, oh, she didn't say her pronoun, but that's fine. but they did say consider. and i think if it was, you must. yes. theni think if it was, you must. yes. then i would have written more than x y chromosome. >> man, i think just the question being posed, there's, there's some sort of coercion, there's some sort of coercion, there's some sort of coercion, there's some sort of compelled speech there because, you know, they can dress up like that, but there's, there's also the yeah, there's, there's also the yeah, the obligation and it backfires if there's a pressure to do that. >> i love the ninja one, which is so we slash them, you know, all the or the chocolate one. hershey, which i think brilliant works particularly well in america, you're right. anybody who forces it down your throat,

yeah, on that sort of basis is going to get people backfiring. i thought that was quite funny. he he wouldn't have caused offence to people normally. and i think it would have been wrong to sack them on that. >> and also you can't see if you know these pronouns are right and these pronouns are like, you can't say if pronoun . if you're can't say if pronoun. if you're allowed to pick whatever pronouns you want, he can have x, pronouns you want, he can have x, y chromosome guy. that's absolutely right. >> the key always in this is about respect. if you're not humiliating other people and you're working in that sort of basis, let's just have respect. bnng basis, let's just have respect. bring back respect for all people in the conversation and that's it. >> so i don't write she her on any email even if you're there andifs any email even if you're there and it's and it's there available because that's that's that's your way . available because that's that's that's your way. his way of protest was an actual insult insulting way. so that's why it's not going to stand up. >> i think you should be allowed to be. >> i don't think that's insulting. i think it's perfectly valid. it fits with the rules. >> funny. >> funny. >> and anyway, in these in these times of inclusivity, is it time to include fat people in ballet? a dance class for larger ladies called power plus wellness has launched beginner ballet classes that assist the bigger boned ballerinas in leaping gracefully

into the air. let's take a look. open up the door. >> can you open the door? >> can you open the door? >> i know you said before you can't cope with anymore. you told me it was worse that you'd show me what's in store. i hope it's not for sure. can you open the door ? the door? >> open the door. can you open the door? i know you said before you can cope with it shattering. >> no. >> no. >> it's great that these women feel nice and included . but feel nice and included. but isn't this a bit of a health and safety risk to the male dancers? >> i mean, i like the idea. >> i mean, i like the idea. >> i mean, i like the idea. >> i like the idea of encouraging anybody to participate in anything, even if it's two, two too much. are you work on that sort of basis? the risk of a double hernia. but no absolute anybody should be able to do anything on that sort of basis. so i like the idea . basis. so i like the idea. >> i just thought it was a little bit insulting that being held up, because if i'm going to have a little jump, i don't need you to hold me up. it's very patronising. >> i'm just i'm 20, it's dawn. >> do you know what the inside me. there is a 28 year old girl dying to come out, so trust me, doesn't it? >> they've got to do that. that's part of the ballerina

thing, isn't it? >> i know, but she's not doing lift. >> they're just like walking with her. like i would just be like, i'm all right to walk across the room. >> do you think it's encouraging people to be unhealthy, though? shouldn't they be saying, i mean, i like the idea of the strict dance instructor who's like, no, you must be this thin if you want to be a ballerina. you can get on strictly like that. >> talk about so you've got a job. >> yeah. got it. yes >> he's far too strict. you work on that space? no i love the idea. let anybody do anything . idea. let anybody do anything. be anybody. it's about respect for everybody in the conversation . work on that conversation. work on that basis. i love that class. but and i think it's a bit unfair to poke fun at them. >> well, you can't sugarcoat the message or they'd eat that as well. anyway, talking about inclusivity, what would you like to see the police deal with? maybe arresting some criminals or dealing with mass public disorder? i mean , police were disorder? i mean, police were absent for large parts of the leeds riots. look at them running away here. >> oh, police are going. police is going. >> amy. chelsea say reform. >> amy. chelsea say reform. >> oh, look, look, look, the police are just looking. glass running. >> get closer, get closer . >> get closer, get closer. kwasi. they run in, they run

close to get closer. get closer, closer, closer, closer , get closer. >> cause getting smashed . yo by >> cause getting smashed. yo by our confidence and our public services. >> according to a report in the daily mail, scotland's police officers will be paid to take part in pride parades despite the force cutting back on fighting crime. uniformed officers are being urged to represent the overstretched force at lgbtq i plus plus plus two sl hyphen slash asterix marches in exchange for pay or a day off in lieu. i mean , surely day off in lieu. i mean, surely this is fine. i mean, a crime has been completely eliminated, so why can't we have the police getting paid to march and have rainbow flags and balloons at a pride parade? >> and it's the standard thing, isn't it? whenever the police force are massively overstretched. and you're right, it happened when we had the whole scottish issue about what people could say and they promised that they were going to investigate every single one. well people then turn around and

say, well, hang about. there's lots of very serious crimes. people getting their phones nicked. yeah. and the big thing about not just the phone being nicked, all about the data, all of that's coming out now, this is being done from personal experience. they can't investigate it all the time because they say we've got too many people reporting it. they just any most, most crimes. >> now they just give you a number to report to the insurance. >> that's not good enough. >> that's not good enough. >> do you think the police need to focus on core crime fighting? i know you're talking about how they need to build trust with communities. i don't think they need trust at all. i think they need trust at all. i think they need fear in communities. >> i think there's a bit of both, because when you have respect, i think that's what we're looking for rather than fear. we're looking for respect covering those young. yeah. because fear does bring respect right. a little bit. but but also fear brings violence because you just think, well, i'm not scared of you. i'm going to fight you. so i think respect i sorry, i don't have respect for the police because it seems that they do lazy policing, which is. oh, you said a hate crime i'm going to hate. crime is horrible. but right now , is horrible. but right now, phones i'm not too bothered about. >> somebody sends a tweet a transphobic tweet.

>> and i think what's happened is everyone's just lost respect because of these tweets, because of everything. but when you see a young boy laughing and saying, look, they're running away, we're living in social media. we see everything. and i just think the whole system is broken. >> and that's what the system is. >> not just the police, though, is it? it's got to be the community. wouldn't it be wonderful if we had some wonderful if we had some wonderful role models? and actually just to play devil's advocate, which i always do , is advocate, which i always do, is that the police must be terrified. quite frankly, there's a small thing and you have a huge mob, some of whom are setting light to police cars. some failed with the buses, but they they sort out other things. it must be terrifying for them. we need to get the idea of community where actually we're all in this together. and of course, this is it. >> we can't believe what's lacking. >> we can't blame the police. i mean, it's orders, legislation that comes from on high that orders them to , you know, police orders them to, you know, police tweets and things like that. i'm sure they'd much rather be deaung sure they'd much rather be dealing with actual crime. anyway, next on the saturday night showdown clone world, we've got the world's most annoying girl bosses and a re—enactment of the trump shooting by ugandan schoolkids. plus, i'll show you what happened when a woman decided on a simple

break. take a look at this.

>> see that? >> see that? >> welcome back to the saturday night showdown. culture corner is coming up. but first, i promised i would show you what happened when a woman decided on a little cigarette break. take a look at this. oh, very much. >> oh. gracious. >> oh. gracious. >> the guy, the guy just sits there and, like, doesn't react at all like she does it every third cigarette. >> i think he assumes she came back from her ballet class. you stole my. >> you stole my joke. listen, me and leo are comedians. you never steal a joke , susie kennedy. steal a joke, susie kennedy. we're just getting some african school kids staged a re—enactment of the trump shooting, and it's fantastic. >> take a look at this on a really see something that said, take a look at what happened .

take a look at what happened. >> what are you doing ? >> what are you doing? >> what are you doing? >> lisa nandy. >> lisa nandy. >> that was fantastic. i hope they all got an a in drama. i mean, this was an iconic moment. it's even made it to, you know, bodyguards better. >> bodyguards in. >> bodyguards in. >> i can predict that will be the shot throughout history , the shot throughout history, though of trump saying fight, fight, fight. and with the blood and with the flag behind him, with the flag behind him. >> and it wasn't a pride flag, which is what you get with biden eve r. >> even >>i even >> i think if ever there was going to be a moment when people were not sure if he's going to be presidential, that was one of the most presidential fearless things that he's done. and i think he's a changed man. and it won him the election. >> absolutely. now, many people think that we should ban tiktok due to the influence china may have over it, but i think we should ban it just to stop videos like this take a look. >> gen z busted me. gen z boxt solar renee five foot three, in an attitude , five foot three and an attitude, five foot three and an attitude, five foot three and an attitude, five foot three and an attitude secret chronic in a trench , secret product and trench. >> new friend, green and sneaky link. new friend. green and sneaky link. fake tan hands and

a hoop that is a sneak peek inside the secret service department in charge of donald trump. >> now. i mean tuc, i know that. >> now. i mean tuc, i know that. >> sorry, what did we just watch? >> that was, some women in an office recording a video. >> and i think that shows why you need diversity. you need some men in the office. they're too embarrassed to do that. >> and they wrote some lines. >> and they wrote some lines. >> you took out one of my favourite lines, which i won't repeat, but people should go. yes, but people should go and see that sort of stuff, that's the thing about tiktok. the whole idea is it's going to go viral. it's going to be naff. and this is why you get politicians. you had miliband last week with his guitar doing blowing in the wind. you know , blowing in the wind. you know, he was being deliberately nasty to get people to watch naff because that's lucky for him because that's lucky for him because i don't think he could because i don't think he could be deliberately not naff to be honest. i have another bacon sandwich or work on that, but that's what they do. the whole thing about these tiktok videos is you want it to go viral, and the more we mock it in the media, the more publicity they get. so they've won. >> yeah. and actually, yeah, comedians, they always seem to go viral when it's something awkward, something awkward happening with the audience,

like a heckler or something like that. >> yeah, you can pay your own hecklers to come now. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> service people offer. >> service people offer. >> yeah, because it'll go viral. you want something to go viral? >> well—rehearsed heckle line . >> well—rehearsed heckle line. absolutely. you work on that sort of basis. it's got to be good. >> yeah, right up next it's mark dolan tonight. what have you got for us this evening, mark? >> well, leo, we start with good news. the boss of just stop oil has been jailed for five years. throw away the key. let's hope that cell hasn't got central heating. and in my take at ten, the bbc in crisis. heating. and in my take at ten, the bbc in crisis . strictly is the bbc in crisis. strictly is their biggest entertainment show. are they about to exit? we'll deal with that at ten. so a really busy two hours don't go anywhere. >> sounds fantastic. mark sounds brilliant. and thank you also to my brilliant panel tonight, susie kennedy and andrew eborn. and we'll see you again next week. and don't forget that headliners is on as well. tonight at 11 pm. that's every night. three comedians going through the next day's news. it's fantastic show. see you next week. i believe. okay. goodbye. that was a fun .

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scotland. quite a bright start to sunday. just a few showers feeding into the west and similar across northern ireland. still a few showers feeding into west and coastal areas but plenty of bright sunshine to start the day a bit more cloud around across the south and southeast and that might just squeeze out a little bit of rain and drizzle at times, but it is generally improving as the morning goes on, so starting to see some sunny spells break through that cloud and leaving a largely dry sunday for most. a bit of a different story though, across northern ireland, as we see this next area of rain push into western areas. so quite a damp afternoon here, but elsewhere plenty of sunny spells, just a few showers feeding into western parts of scotland , slightly cooler scotland, slightly cooler temperatures compared to today, so feeling a little bit fresher, but where you catch the sunshine it will still be feeling pleasant and warm to start the new working week. still plenty of cloud around and still some rain in the north. it could be heavy at times and is generally going to be quite a cloudy day and feeling quite humid, and we could see some showers by the afternoon, which could be heavy and slow moving across scotland .

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just a moment. meanwhile, joe biden, on the brink . will the us biden, on the brink. will the us have a new president by this time next week? and could this be a setback for donald trump's dream of a return to the white house? and as strictly come dancing is hit by yet another major scandal, this is a total failure of bbc management, who may be about to lose their biggest hit . may be about to lose their biggest hit. so two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. mark dolan tonight is your perfect saturday night in. it's my big opinion. straight after the news headunes straight after the news headlines and tatiana sanchez . headlines and tatiana sanchez. >> mark, thank you and good evening. some breaking news this houn evening. some breaking news this hour. a man has been charged with violent disorder and arson after a bus was set on fire dunng after a bus was set on fire during rioting in harehills in leeds on thursday evening.