on president biden to drop rises on president biden to drop out of that campaign, former president trump has made his first campaign appearance since last week's attempted assassination attempt. you are not going to want to miss this. but as we had so much fun yesterday, didn't we.7 this but as we had so much fun yesterday, didn't we? this show, remember, is nothing without you and your views. so remember, is nothing without you and your views . so let remember, is nothing without you and your views. so let me remember, is nothing without you and your views . so let me know and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we'll be discussing today. really really easy. visiting gb news.com/your say and join the conversation. or even easier message me on our socials @gbnews. but first they said it wouldn't happen again. but i am reunited with ray addison and here he is with your news headlines. >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. 1:01, our top stories in the united states. donald trump says nobody warned him of a possible

threat in the moments before he was shot by a gunman in pennsylvania . in an interview pennsylvania. in an interview with fox news, the republican nominee said the lack of information was a mistake and the event should have been delayed. it comes as the secret service faces questions over how the would be assassin was allowed to wander outside the security perimeter before taking his position on a roof. that was even after local officers had reported him acting suspiciously . reported him acting suspiciously. >> nobody mentioned it. nobody said there was a problem and i would have waited for 15. they could have said, let's wait for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, five minutes, something nobody said. i think that was a mistake. how did somebody get on that roof and why wasn't he reported? because people saw that he was on the roof . on the roof. >> well, in his first rally since that assassination attempt, donald trump told supporters he took a bullet for democracy. he appeared alongside his vice presidential running mate, jd vance, in michigan, their first joint appearance. trump is hoping to win the

crucial swing state that president biden took back in 2020, and he showed a fighting spirit. >> but what they do is misinformation and disinformation, and they keep saying he's a threat to democracy. i'm saying what the hell did i do for democracy last week? i took a bullet for democracy . what did i do against democracy. what did i do against democracy. what did i do against democracy ? crazy. democracy? crazy. >> meanwhile, kamala harris is insisting that president biden will win the us election despite continuing pressure on him from fellow democrats to stand aside. the vp was making the case to stick with the 81 year old. even as some big money donors expect him to end his campaign this week, she's increasingly being seen as a possible replacement for her boss, though former house speaker nancy pelosi is understood to be calling for a competitive process to select a new nominee. back here, the chancellor is saying that she's hoping to boost our individual

pension pots by around £11,000. rachel reeves believes a review of retirement savings could unlock billions more in investment, with schemes encouraged to invest in assets such as infrastructure. the treasury is saying it would boost economic growth and ensure better returns for savers. mr reevesis better returns for savers. mr reeves is due to chair a meeting with the pensions industry tomorrow. james murray is exchequer secretary to the treasury. he told gb news that smarter investments can help grow the economy. >> know that by the end of this decade , there will be around decade, there will be around £800 billion of assets in defined contribution pensions . defined contribution pensions. now we want to see that money working harder for pensioners , working harder for pensioners, making sure that pensioners are getting the best possible return, that they can and that it's also more of it is invested in productive activities in the uk economy to help get economic growth up across the uk. >> a hate crime investigation is underway after three pride flags were vandalised outside a forest gate railway station in east london. the met police is

appealing for information after the pavement paintings were covered with spray paint in the early hours of friday morning. that follows previous incidents back in june, which the force believes are linked . officers believes are linked. officers have been trawling cctv making house to house enquiries and conducting forensic investigations, but so far no arrests have been made. the snp is urging the foreign secretary to suspend the sale of arms to israel. in a letter to david lammy, the party said the government should take action now rather than wait for further reviews. mr lammy has said that there will be no blanket ban, but he will consider issues unked but he will consider issues linked to offensive weapons being used in gaza. the snp says there's been nine months of reviews into israel's compliance with international law, and there's no need to wait for another one. and finally, a row has erupted between an auction house that sells elvis presley memorabilia and the icon's graceland estate. joel

weinshenker, who managed. sorry. excuse me. who's managing partner of elvis presley's enterprises, told nbc news that he doubts the authenticity of some items recently sold by gws auctions. he says his suspicious mind first started racing when he spotted a black grommet jacket for sale, which was said to be worn by the singer back in 1972. however, he believes the real jacket is still hanging up in graceland's closet. he also doubts the veracity of other items offered for sale, including jewellery and even the star's private jet. gws auctions is insisting, though, that the items are authentic. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts .

>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray, and good afternoon to everyone who's already on the messages board. remember, very easy to get in touch, especially fred who's just messaged saying, dawn, you're perving over ray addison again. i was just admiring the links he had written for that elvis story. i mean, they were very impressive in that i at the very impressive in that! at the end he can shake his hips as well. evidently. we're stay tuned for that one coming up next. in any case, let's get straight into today's story, shall we? a labour mp has called the two child benefit cap a heinous policy that is sinister and overly setlist sexist. rosie duffield, mp for canterbury, criticised the policy that means people will not receive additional state support if they have more than two children, and she particularly critiqued the so—called rape clause . now i so—called rape clause. now i want to do this story because i've got a brilliant panel for it today. two amazing, wonderful young women who are both mums. it's gb news political correspondent olivia utley is going to describe the actual story for us first though, olivia, what is happening with

this story and why has rosie duffield got so, angry about it? well, she's written this absolutely blistering piece in the times very , very critical of the times very, very critical of her leader, the prime minister, keir starmer. >> now, bear in mind rosie duffield isn't one to toe the party line, particularly she fell out with keir starmer in a big way over gender issues. she's a gender critical feminist and she was furious when she felt that keir starmer and the labour party didn't stand by her. they seem to have just about made amends, but it's not particularly surprising that she was happy to speak out against the policy like this. essentially, what story is, is back in 2015, george osborne, the then conservative chancellor, introduced a policy whereby parents with two children couldn't collect with sorry, with more than two children for any children subsequent to two parents couldn't claim child benefit. now, it was a very controversial policy at the time and plenty of labour mps spoke out against it.

when keir starmer first came into office as leader of the opposition, he said that he would want to reverse the two child limit, as it is sometimes called, if he became prime minister. but on the campaign trail he went a bit quiet about that and when he was asked about it, he said that wasn't something that he could commit to. he would need to look at the figures, etc, etc. now rosie duffield has written this piece in the times saying that that's essentially abhorrent of the prime minister she says that she was a single parent living on tax credit, needed that single benefit to get by, and she thinks that limiting the number of children you can have to two essentially. well, she calls it punitive withdrawing those benefits if you have more than two children is anti—feminist. it's stopping women being allowed to reproduce in the way that they want to. so this is a huge attack. she is particularly critical of this rape clause, which you mentioned, which is there is a, a sort of loophole

to the two child limit, which is if you if you can say that your third child or any subsequent children were conceived as a result of rape, then you can still access those child benefits, which obviously means that women who've been through an unbelievably traumatic experience would have to share that experience with all sorts of third parties, all sorts of strangers, all sorts of civil servants , in order to access servants, in order to access those benefits, which she thinks is very problematic indeed. it'll be fascinating to see how keir starmer responds to this , keir starmer responds to this, because it is a very, very controversial policy. and i expect that there will be other labour mps who come out in support of rosie duffield about this. >> indeed, it has been very controversial and all through the election campaign sir keir was urged, wasn't he, to change his mind and go and go back on this one? but he has said that's not in the agenda at the moment. olivia utley, thank you very much for explaining, as olivia has just said, this thing is very, very blistering attack on her boss, basically by rosie

duffield, who has been very outspoken about women's rights in general and has been a bit of a thorn in keir starmer's side all the way through. i said very, very strong words. now let's see, as i said earlier, my panel maker this i've got a great panel to discuss this. they're both young mums, author and broadcaster amy nicholl and author and journalist emma wolf. thank you very much, ladies, for joining me. now. particularly wanted to do this story because i'm a big fan of rosie duffield on the women's rights issues, but i thought it would work particularly well with used to discussing it. particularly well with used to discussing it . now, the sunday discussing it. now, the sunday times piece is very, very strongly worded, but is rosie duffield right? is it time to scrap the two child benefit? emma i'm going to come to you first on this one. >> it's a really tricky one, and i can actually see both sides , i can actually see both sides, i'm no fan of george osborne. this was as as olivia says, this was brought in in 2015. and you can see, you can actually see the argument. i can see the

argument. many people who don't have children or do have children, but have cut their cloth according to what they can actually afford. and you can see the argument for saying, if you can't afford more than two children, you don't keep having more and more children. you can't have a family of 4 or 5, six children if you can't afford them. amy and i both know bringing up kids, especially young children in those early years. extremely expensive, child care, expensive. there are so many punitive. sort of. it's a very, child friendly, family friendly kind of environment that we're in, particularly at the moment. keir starmer's got his work cut out for him. this is the first sort of major rebellion, actually. he's had his two week honeymoon period. i think about around a dozen labour mps signed an amendment to the king's speech he's going to the king's speech he's going to be challenged on this tomorrow. you called rosie duffield rebellious. i think she's just a really strong advocate for women's rights. and just to give the other side of it, i can see her point. you don't want government interfering in women's reproductive choices. this is a fundamental part of being a

woman is having babies bearing children and actually perpetuating the human species. you know, we are actually kind of bringing up the next generation, but there is a cost. so i can see both sides. yeah >> on the other side of this argument, as many, many our viewers will point out, is that it can be seen the two child cap benefit, which i think would cost around about £35 billion if it was abolished, it targets the feckless and irresponsible people who just have children every five minutes, and they rely on the state to look after them. many people watching and listening today are saying, what is wrong with being responsible and being able to afford the children you have in life? i think that's only possible to see that if you buy into the idea that you can plan your life, you can have a total foolproof, you know exactly your circumstances going forward. >> and actually, i don't think anyone really knows how their circumstances are going to change or where life is going to take them. which is why i think everyone deserves a safety net. this is the whole point of welfare, isn't it? whatever

circumstances you get into , you circumstances you get into, you can depend on the state that you've paid into to come. >> not everybody pays into it, though. to be fair, amy. >> so if you have three children and then you go through a divorce or you lose a partner, suddenly you're not entitled to claim child benefit for that third child. that doesn't seem to make sense. it doesn't feel fair to me. also, what costs the state the most in the long run is definitely poverty. poverty is definitely poverty. poverty is so expensive, and the knock on effects that show up in the criminal justice system, that show up in the health in the nhs, it's going to cost more in the in the long run. this is a quick and very effective way to stamp out child poverty, which would not only to be the benefit of those children, obviously, but also to society as a whole. >> but, amy, a lot of people would say that those feckless and irresponsible and i'm quoting you, i'm quoting sort of viewers, those feckless and irresponsible people, and we do know them who are having five, six, seven kids and literally huge families and not even thinking about it, not planning at all. and there is free access to contraception. so you can, to a certain extent, plan your reproductive choices, that those

people aren't necessarily even using the child benefit money to, you know, to avoid their children being in child poverty. but those people are the ones who are, you know, using the money on, on cigarettes and alcohol, basically. >> do you know what? it's interesting because when this came in in 2017, it was prompted heavily by shows like benefit street, which highlighted those cases. but i don't buy that those cases make up the majority. and we make rules. we make laws for the majority and we not for the minority. so that's why i think this is important to put to one side that stereotype and think about the 40% of people claiming this who are in work to parents in work who still need to claim these benefits. >> how do you stop the minority as you put it, abusing the system? >> it's always going to be abuse of any system. really isn't there. and when we look at the rates of tax avoidance in these areas, they pale into insignificance compared to tax avoidance on a bigger corporate level. so i think you just have to accept that there's going to be a little bit. but the amount

of benefit that will come from it and the good outweighs that. that's so, so worth mentioning . that's so, so worth mentioning. >> it's 21 i think it's £21 a week. it's not a huge it's not a i mean it's not a huge scrap. >> and the policy would would cost around between 3 and £35 billion. and overall 440,000 families are affected by the cap , families are affected by the cap, which is up £33,000 on last yeah which is up £33,000 on last year. but thomas has been in touch. thank you very much, thomas says there, how about you first stop paying for children of non—british citizens and then review the budget? what do we make to that ? make to that? >> okay, well, i think we need to be really careful that children are children. and yes, i can i can argue until the cows come home about uncontrolled immigration and all of that. but if you have children in this country who have come over with with their parents for whatever reason, i don't want any child going hungry, going cold, going without safety or a roof over their heads or, you know, and that's not fair. we don't punish children, you know, by making children, you know, by making children suffer and live in

poverty. >> the knock on effects for the whole of society are, well evidenced. so i think thomas would be cutting his nose to spite his face. there >> yeah, absolutely. so do you agree with rosie duffield that this is a misogynistic policy, that this targets women unfairly beanng that this targets women unfairly bearing in mind men are 50% of this equation as well? i mean , this equation as well? i mean, they do have something to do with where children come from. >> of course they do. yes, it's not a family friendly policy, is it? it's not a kind of family encouraging policy . rosie encouraging policy. rosie duffield in that piece and the blistering piece in the sunday times, makes the point that this sort of you're basically making a divide between the wealthier women and poorer women. but i think that all families and all women in this country are looking at the costs and looking at the it's not just the costs, it's the sheer, the toll that it takes in terms of responsibilities and in terms of your time and juggling work and childcare and all of that. i think that we live in an environment which does not

encourage, like many european countries, italy , spain, they're countries, italy, spain, they're really family friendly countries. england is not a family friendly country, and i speak as a single mother and it's really hard. like everything is hard. i'm not i'm not complaining. i don't mean that in a sort of woe is me, but i mean that it's a struggle. it's a struggle. it's not. it's not made easy for you. >> and it's interesting because rosie duffield said it's an attack on women's right to choose how many children they have. well, i think that's a societal thing, isn't it? because most women are constrained by the economy in choosing how many children they have, which is why our birth rate is it's very low. yes. 1.4 per women. most women say they would to love have three children, but the constraints of society mean that we're having one each. >> and the other side replacement rate. we are an ageing population. >> we are. and in some places death rates are out, you know, are outstripping birth rates. and yeah, there are some areas of the country in which we're not even replacing at the rate that we need to, but we also have mass uncontrolled immigration. so i mean, what final word is going to you,

james. >> thank you very much for getting in touch. james says, dawn , it's simple. if you can't dawn, it's simple. if you can't afford to feed your children, don't have them. and i know the argument to that. right. thank you very much for getting in touch. keep those messages coming in, actually loving them and lots of you getting involved already. and for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much, much more, please do go to our website which is at gb news.com. now i'm dawn neesom. this is gb news sunday. it's lunchtime. hope you're having a wonderful weekend out there, but loads more coming up on today's show so you really don't want to move too far from your telly, home secretary yvette cooper says nail bars and car washes will be targeted. as a way of stopping illegal immigration. do you think she's got a point? would it work? don't go too far. you don't want to miss this

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with me. dawn neesom on your telly. online and on digital radio. hope you're having a wonderful weekend out there. happy sunday lunch time. now why don't you hear this one? nail bars and car washes will be targeted by immigration officers as they step up. enforcement action over the summer. yvette coopen action over the summer. yvette cooper, a home secretary, says 1000 civil servants working on now abandoned rwandan scheme will start a new returns and enforcement programme, saying the programme will increase returns of those with no right to be here and make sure rules are respected and enforced. raids on businesses suspected of employing illegal workers will be ramped up. they also labour. this is also hope that it will stop people coming over here on the small boats. i'm kind of thinking good luck with this one, but let's see how it goes , one, but let's see how it goes, amy, does this make sense to you? >> not the language used. the whole targeting crackdown. because i think when you dig into who these people are,

they're normally victims of human trafficking. they haven't had much of a say in how they've ended up being forced to work in these places. so i think it's fine to say they don't have a right to be in this country, and they need to be. that needs to be challenged. but i think they're victims, so they need to be treated with compassion. my fear is that they get lobbed into one of these horrendous deportation centres, where they tend to just fester for months, months at a time, a really squalid conditions, overcrowded conditions, unsafe conditions, alongside actual criminals who are being deported . and my fear are being deported. and my fear is that these people will be mistreated even more than they currently are. >> i understand with the nail bars and the human trafficking, certainly sex trafficking as well. but what would you do with them then? >> well, that's the thing. if our deportation centres worked adequately and as they're intended to, then that would be fine. and they could go back to their country and live their lives. however, at the moment we've got a situation where we say people have no right to remain and then we stuff them in essentially prisons for months at a time, or hotels at £7

million a day. well, no, because when you're found to have a visa that's expired. so the case you're talking about is asylum seekers awaiting a decision . seekers awaiting a decision. they're in a separate we don't know. >> these are just they're just illegal workers at the moment . illegal workers at the moment. >> people that have outstayed their visas are generally put in places like brookhouse. you can all look up brookhouse. and what happened there. there's a really interesting panorama on it, and it's awful. and so we need to get on with actually moving people and treating people humanely and compassionately. >> okay. so i mean, emma, does it make sense to scrap the rwanda policy? and at the same time this week, by the way, keir starmer has also been talking with our, other countries in the eu about offshore processing of migrants. go where that one out. but does it make sense to scrap the rwanda plan and then introduce this crackdown on nail bars and car washes? basically was i the only person in the country who was deeply underwhelmed by this? >> our new home secretary,

talking about a problem which needs, you know, swift and immediate action and her her answer to this is to crack down on nail bars and car washes. it's kind of bathos, isn't it? you know, when you need something big and you get something big and you get something absolutely ludicrous. we've had night after night after night of lawless rioting , after night of lawless rioting, looting, fires across our communities in this country. and we've got a major problem with uncontrolled immigration. we've had thousands of people coming over on small boats. do they really think that cracking down on nail bars and car washes, which, yes , are employers of which, yes, are employers of illegal immigration, of illegal work? we know that. and human trafficking and all of that. i completely agree . do they think completely agree. do they think this is going to deter illegal criminal people smugglers in any way? they will be laughing. well, 730 have crossed on small boats in the last 48 hours. so? so they're clearly not. and i agree with amy. there is a problem in nail bars particularly apparently there's a there's a new sort of a lot of

vietnamese women are being trafficked over to this country for specific work, like nail bars and car washes. a lots of illegal men are being being brought over. the idea that this would deter people in any way. i'm afraid that is for the birds. we need action. keir starmer talked about smashing the criminal gangs. wait, wait wait. smashing the criminal gangs. wait. smashing the criminal gangs . and now we're going to gangs. and now we're going to target nail bars. >> i think the problem is that there is no way to deter, irregular asylum seeking , irregular asylum seeking, because since the 1980s, more and more and more and more money has been put into deterrence, and the rates have only gone one way. and that's up because as the world becomes more unstable, less equal, then people are going to seek asylum in richer countries. it'sjust going to seek asylum in richer countries. it's just pure common sense, surely. >> how many of these people are asylum seekers, though, and how many of them are just here illegally? >> well, the last time that we actually processed the asylum claims, it was about 86% that had legitimate claims. >> people always quote that

statistic, don't they? and the reason that it was such a high percentage that were accepted is because it was such a low number that were actually processed. yes, that is the problem. what do we also make? sir keir starmer has been having meeting with his european counterparts today about offshore processing for migrants. sounds quite similar to rwanda. >> yeah, it did sound very interesting. this idea that he's going to be possibly taking some asylum seekers in return for being able to return some illegal immigrants. and just to amy's point, just because people want to come to this country, i hate to sound really cruel, but just because economic migrants want to come to this country and want to come to this country and want benefits and want a better standard of life, it doesn't mean that we have to accept them. it doesn't mean that our borders have to be as completely open and uncontrolled as they want them to be. >> the more we deny our responsibilities to accept a fair number, the more there's going to be chaos at the border, because the more demand there will be no , we're offering will be no, we're offering something we don't have to accept anybody. asylum claims

from about three different countries. so that's why you see, like on friday with the sudanese lady that lost her life on the boat, because we're not offering anything to a more for a for more countries and more nationalities. and the more we narrow that down, the more we open up the vast majority of chaos. >> the vast majority are, majority are young men, but there's never any evidence to back this up. >> and when suella braverman, when she was home secretary, was challenged about people gaming the system, she was only able to provide examples of four people. >> look at the boats, you can see the economic migrants are coming here and disappearing into the system. >> and i find it frustrating when people say , these are these when people say, these are these are fighting age men, which innately suggests they are a threat to us and forgets that we have the family reunification visa. so if men do arrive, then they can seek to bring their families over safely. you wouldn't put your child and wife

on a boat unless you really, really didn't see any other option. and there is another opfion option. and there is another option , option, >> why? if they are planning to bnng >> why? if they are planning to bring their families over safely and legally afterwards, do they destroy their paperwork and their passports? >> possibly because we currently only accept three different nationalities . nationalities. >> if you've got a genuine asylum claim, that's how the law works. >> those are the rules. >> those are the rules. >> we feel like if you're in that situation, if you're on that situation, if you're on that boat, you can't have had much of a choice because who would do it? >> well and you've travelled all the way through europe, through many other safe countries to reach britain. >> but this argument comes up all the time, doesn't it? and you forget that we, we colonise 65% of the of the world and people speak british and people have an affiliation with britain. they have family in britain. they have family in britain. so if you've taken this journey, why not do that last stretch so that you could be with your family if you've got nothing left? if you get on a boat with none of your possessions, you've left your home, you've left your family, you've got your mobile phone, what do you mean, i don't?

>> sorry, most people arrive without shoes because the shoes have been destroyed by the seawater and the boat fuel. >> these aren't. these aren't people with much to flaunt when they arrive. these are people with nothing, i mean, well, then we need to look again at the system. >> but the law is the law. and the reason that we only accept migrants from a certain number of countries is because those are the ones that are deemed to be genuinely fleeing persecution or fleeing very, very dangerous situations. i think i'm afraid the vast majority here for a better standard of life. and while i understand that, while i understand that, while i understand that, while i understand that happens to a country when we are absolutely overwhelmed with new arrivals, we are not overwhelmed by numbers. >> last year were 45,000. the numbers so far this year are up 10,000. these are not overwhelming numbers , overwhelming numbers, >> migration is well over a million. >> let us know what you think out there. you've heard what amy and emma think. what do you think? i mean, targeting nail bars and car washes. is that going to work? but we do have to move on. and there is some good news coming up for you. there is still plenty of time to grab your chance to win £30,000 in

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perimeter before taking his position on a roof, even after local officers had reported him acting suspiciously . and in his acting suspiciously. and in his first rally since that assassination attempt, donald trump told supporters he took a bullet for democracy. he appeared alongside his vp running mate jd vance in michigan. their first joint appearance . trump is hoping to appearance. trump is hoping to win the crucial swing state that president biden took back in 2020, and it seems to be showing a fighting spirit. well, meanwhile , kamala harris insists meanwhile, kamala harris insists that president biden will win the us election despite continuing pressure from fellow democrats to stand aside. the vp was making the case to stick with the 81 year old, even as some big money donors expect him to end his campaign. she's increasingly being seen as a possible replacement for her boss. back here, the chancellor is saying she's hoping to boost our pension pots by 11 grand. rachel reeves believes a review of retirement savings could unlock billions more in

investment, with schemes encouraged to invest in assets such as infrastructure. the treasury says it would boost economic growth and ensure better returns for savers and a hate crime investigation is underway after three pride flags were vandalised outside a forest gate railway station in east london. the met is appealing for info after the pavement paintings were covered with spray paint in the early hours of friday. officers have trawled cctv made house to house enquiries and conducted forensic investigations. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, mr addison. now remember, let us

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as pressure rises on president biden, who's out with covid. remember to drop out of the campaign with trump discussing nancy pelosi's lack of support for biden overnight. have a listen . listen. >> did you see nancy pelosi is selling out? biden now? did you see she turned on him like a dog? well, i don't know if he should continue all of a sudden. where did that come from? she was 100. all of a sudden she's not sure . not sure means he's not sure. not sure means he's gone. >> well, i mean, this is our trump talking at the rally in grand rapids in michigan. and for the first time, he has jd vance , who is a self—confessed. vance, who is a self—confessed. this is what he says. white trash, proper working class american who at 39, is now in bucha of being vice president. an amazing story in its own right. but american politics, ladies, i mean , they are ladies, i mean, they are absolutely amazing to watch. i mean, if you're not engaged in american politics, the fact that you've got joe biden, 81 years old, quite clearly suffering

mental problems and degenerative mental problems and degenerative mental health problems, and donald trump, who was like a week ago was just inches centimetres, probably from death, literally. what do you make of his latest rally and what's been happening? >> well, i'm so glad that this is all. i mean, obviously not the assassination attempt, but i'm so glad that american politics are electric right now because a i'm loving it. and b our first two weeks of a labour administration for me have been deathly dull and really quite depressing. so this has my full attention. and yes, i was going on air last, i.e. attention. and yes, i was going on air last, le. a week ago last night, and it was all happening and it was very, very exciting, very dramatic . and i exciting, very dramatic. and i am full of admiration and respect for donald trump . never. respect for donald trump. never. yes, i am hearing him last night saying, what have i ever done for democracy? i took a bullet for democracy? i took a bullet for democracy. if that doesn't move you, if that doesn't stir you, i'm going to say that if that doesn't stir you in some way, you're not human being the way, you're not human being the way that trump is speaking at the moment, at those rallies, that michigan rally last night, the way that he reacted in the

moment , the split second when moment, the split second when a bullet almost killed him, if he hadnt bullet almost killed him, if he hadn't have turned his head, if he hadn't turned his head and when he says, you know, there but for the great. well, he's effectively saying there but for the grace of god. you can be religious or not religious, but he's on to something. something happened and something is happening in american politics at the moment. and it's very, very exciting. and as for joe biden, i think we all acknowledge that he probably has acknowledge that he probably has a few days quite jealous of him hanging out at his delaware. i keep hearing delaware beach house. it just sounds so calm, so remote, so lovely and isolated. but no, i mean, he's he says i'm sick , so he's sick he says i'm sick, so he's sick with covid. but there is also this ongoing issue of the cognitive decline, the marked cognitive decline, the marked cognitive decline, the marked cognitive decline and the ebbing away , the pressure mounting, but away, the pressure mounting, but the ebbing away of support for him. and now democrats really coming out and just saying game's up . game's up. >> and more important, they're losing donations as well. i mean , losing donations as well. i mean, 30 big name democrats have come out and said it's time to go. >> even the clinton when they withdraw their money, the game game's up.

>> this is the problem, isn't it? >> i mean, people are now saying, dawn, he should be resigning as president, not just not running, but resigning as president, which there is a there is a constitutional way that they can do that. >> but you weren't even slightly impressed by trump's reaction when he got up after and going fight. i mean, that shows some level of courage and strength , level of courage and strength, surely, amy, i just think he's political through to the core where everything is a performance even nearly getting killed, that he's got that political instinct to be able to do that. >> it's almost getting robotic to me, he's an entertainer. he's very fun to watch. but when he says he took a bullet for democracy, he is the biggest threat to democracy in my in recent in modern history, i would say since since world war two, he. why do you say what? >> what is maybe putin maybe putin is slightly more of a

threat to democracy or kim jong un or who's opening the door for putin? >> donald trump will open the door for putin. i think one of the main, if you think about the audience that were watching that last night and going, yeah, yeah, donald, you're doing really well. putin was definitely there rubbing his knees. woohoo this is going to go knees. woohoo this is going to 9° my knees. woohoo this is going to go my way, donald trump has said he wants to expand the presidential power. he wants to stuff the civil service full of his loyalists. and he still questions the 2020, the authenticity of the 2020 election. he still says things like crooked joe biden cheat joe biden. he stuffed the supreme court full of again , trump court full of again, trump supporting judges. so let's look at what happened when they overthrew roe versus wade. this man is a danger to american democracy. so to hear him say he took a bullet for democracy, he's the biggest threat to democracy. there is. >> how strong do you think, joe biden if he stays and he sounds determined to do so, is furious

at fellow democrats trying to get rid of him, do you think that would be more of a threat to democracy? >> i just find it astonishing that people like amy can say that people like amy can say that donald trump, that that you can be so disrespectful of all of those americans. this is how democracy works, right? we all get a vote. you don't get an a vote for the american president. that's their choice. all of this is on the record. all of these things that you say that donald trump has done, people are voting for him. his his popularity in the polls, absolutely. through the roof . absolutely. through the roof. he's going to win. you asked me about biden, whether he's strong or not. no i think trump will win in november. and i think there's pretty much no doubt about that. but it's so it's so kind of demeaning. why do we always, always assume that people in america are too thick or brexit voters are too thick to look at the facts, to weigh up the evidence and to make their choice? i don't like everything donald trump has done.i everything donald trump has done. i really don't. i don't particularly like his attitude to women. i don't find him a very wildly savoury character. i

don't like his views on abortion and things like that. but i still think overall he is a leader. he has the right economic ideas for example, he has the right ideas on make america great again, putting his own country first, controlling his borders. people are responding to that. why are why do you keep it? keep talking about people as though they're thick as though they can't make. >> i did not say anyone. i did not say anyone was thick. i said, i have concerns about putting america first, about america being the most isolationist that it's been in living memory. why are they voting for him is very concerning for foreign policy that will affect us. >> why are they voting for him ? >> why are they voting for him? >> why are they voting for him? >> honestly, i think it's turned into political entertainment and he puts on a great show. so on that, we will have to leave our particular great show for a short break. >> i'm dawn neesom, this is gb news and there's lots more coming up on today's show, is this the summer we could be witnessing the end of cinema's woke dogma era? stay tuned to find out why all of that. and

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welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your telly. online and on digital radio. now, you might have noficed radio. now, you might have noticed for the past decade, the cinema industry has been working hard to increase diverse representation , including, more representation, including, more lgbt plus characters, more disabled characters, and everything you can think of to tick boxes. but some people are disappointed that the latest hollywood big hitter inside out two, did not make their teenage protagonist. that's the little blue cartoon one, i think gay. so. and twister is out for adults as well, which is a disaster. a disaster movie about twisters that doesn't involve a message about climate change. so

is this the end of woke cinema? should we celebrate ? amy? should we celebrate? amy? nicole, take it away. >> nothing woke about, lgbt inclusion surely just trying to exist. it's like the worst cartoon. >> it's a blue cartoon character. why does she have to be a lesbian? >> why not? i guess what's woeful about that? >> that's the point of this story, is, like everyone in inside out two, which is if you haven't seen it, it's good fun. actually, it's good fun, everyone's inside out. one, the original one. everyone assumed this character was a lesbian and gen z was going. yeah. so it's actually the girl whose head you're in. >> that's riley. yes. and i'd say from watching inside out two that she definitely is gay. it's heavily implied . but again, why heavily implied. but again, why is that woke? why is that woke ? is that woke? why is that woke? i totally get what you mean about the political messaging about the political messaging about climate change in in twister . yes, but i don't get twister. yes, but i don't get what's woke about lgbt inclusion. >> can i be controversial because . because. >> no. go on. >> can we just stop the

obsession with everybody's sexuality and everybody's gender? i don't care what colour , gender? i don't care what colour, what flavour, what shape your genitals are. i don't care who you're sleeping with, by the way. yeah, she's a cartoon character and she's a child, right? she's a minor. can we stop the obsession? kids don't need gender and sexuality and gender fluidity. and who's sleeping with whom shoved down their throat? i don't need it shoved down my throat in every film, every tv series, every book. we just don't need it. can we just make films that don't don't care about lgbt film, that don't care about lgbt film, that don't go on about it? >> i think we'll all agree was very woke was barbie and it was the most successful film of last yeah >>i yeah >> i hated barbie, we're so not over. >> oveh >> it was so not feminist. >> it was so not feminist. >> it was the opposite of feminism, i liked it. oh, i know, i hated barbie, but i mean sort of like twister, which is a shoo in for an environmental global boiling. you're all going to die next week with the climate change that is people running into storms and no one

mentions climate change. >> but dawn, do you with most of your friendships, do you sit around discussing their personal relationships or their sexuality or their gender? you just accept people as they mine. >> but i think, i think that's what these films are. >> i just interact and work and accept and be friends with people for whatever they are. >> but that's that's the whole point of including characters in films, incidentally. >> but we're now discussing whether the 13 year old girl is a lesbian or not, and why didn't they make this cartoon a blue cartoon ? why didn't they cartoon? why didn't they foreground her homosexuality, >> but but because i think that we've seen so the argument would be we've seen so much heteronormativity for as long as time can be. and actually , that time can be. and actually, that has been quite unrealistic. >> i don't like the word heteronormativity, which, by the way, you said beautifully, i don't want that anywhere near children's cartoons. >> it's the weekend should we find out what the weather's doing where you are right now? thank god for that. here's your weather forecast. >> sorry, darling. a brighter

outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. here's your latest weather update from the met office. >> for gb news, we'll see a mixed bag of weather across the uk during the week ahead, most of us seeing some outbreaks of rain at times, but when the sun p0ps rain at times, but when the sun pops through it should feel pleasantly warm for the time of yeah pleasantly warm for the time of year. we'll see a ridge of high pressure moving in from the west, giving plenty of fine weather across many areas today. but notice low pressure gathering out there towards the west of ireland and that will start to push outbreaks of rain in across northern ireland, eventually reaching parts of southern scotland and the north of england into the early hours of england into the early hours of monday, some of that rain turning quite heavy in nature by monday morning itself, whereas towards the north we'll see some clear spells and outbreaks of rain will also work in across wales and the far south—west of england, but elsewhere across england, but elsewhere across england and wales. we'll see some clearer spells holding up at 14 or 15 celsius. so quite a mild night in the south, but turning quite chilly under the clear spells towards the far north of scotland. so the new

working week gets off to a fine start across the far north of scotland. 1 or 2 showers, but plenty of sunshine to start monday here, whereas across central and southern parts of scotland, more in the way of cloud around, there'll be some outbreaks of rain locally on the heavy side and a few heavy bursts still across parts of northern ireland into parts of northern england too. so a pretty damp start across these central parts of the uk. further south, outbreaks of rain moving in across wales into some western parts of england, whereas across central, eastern and southeastern england. monday gets off to a fine start. it'll be some sunshine around and temperatures not doing too badly at this stage either. as for the rest of monday, well, it's the central slice of the uk, northern ireland, southern scotland and the north of england, which will generally see the worst of the conditions. outbreaks of rain giving way to sunshine and a scattering of showers. some of those showers could well turn quite heavy, even thundery, into the afternoon. across england and wales, outbreaks of rain clear away towards the east, giving way to a much brighter afternoon and some brightness towards the far north of scotland too. in the sunshine in the south—east we'll see highs of 24 or 25 celsius into the evening. on monday. further outbreaks of rain will push in across

northern ireland. we'll hold onto some showers across parts of scotland, the north of england, across parts of wales and the south—west of england too. elsewhere, a fine end to the day fine for many around the middle part of the coming week. but by thursday we'll see further outbreaks of rain moving in from the west and warm and sunshine >> looks like things are

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mirroring them, basically. but are we sleepwalking or are labour sleepwalking us back into the eu? then, after violent clashes between rioters and police in dublin at a site being renovated to accommodate asylum seekers, the irish government says they must do more to engage with people who have genuine questions over increased migration, and in an exclusive interview with gb news newly elected mp natalie fleet reveals in a shocking interview how she was groomed and bravely revealed what happened when she became a mum at 15. but this show is nothing without you and your views and frankly, i'm loving them today. you are very naughty. you like out there, so do keep them coming. and this is how you do it. it's very simple. whether you're talking about the stories we're talking about. you want to say something nice about us. maybe all you have to do is go to gbnews.com/yoursay and

join in the conversation. say whatever you want, basically, or message me on our socials. we're @gbnews, but first, it's what we've all been waiting for, isn't it? it's those news headunes isn't it? it's those news headlines with delectable ray addison . addison. >> thank you dawn. good afternoon. 2:01. our top stories in the us. donald trump says nobody warned him of a possible threat in the moments before he was shot by a gunman in pennsylvania. speaking to fox news , the republican nominee news, the republican nominee said the lack of information was a mistake and the event should have been delayed. it comes as the secret service faces questions over how the would be assassin was able to wander outside the security perimeter before taking his position on a roof. that was even after local officers had reported him acting suspiciously . suspiciously. >> nobody mentioned it. nobody said there was a problem and i would have waited for 15. they

could have said, let's wait for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, five minutes, something nobody said. i think that was a mistake. how did somebody get on that roof and why wasn't he reported? because people saw that he was on the roof in his first rally since that assassination attempt, donald trump told supporters he took a bullet for democracy. >> he appeared alongside his vice presidential running mate, jd vance, in michigan, who was their first joint appearance. trump is hoping to win the crucial swing state that president biden took in 2020, and he's showing a fighting spirit. >> but what they do is misinformation and disinformation, and they keep saying he's a threat to democracy. i'm saying what the hell did i do for democracy? last week, i took a bullet for democracy . what did i do against democracy. what did i do against democracy. what did i do against democracy ? crazy. democracy? crazy. >> meanwhile, kamala harris insists president biden will win the us election despite continuing pressure on him from

fellow democrats to stand aside. the vp was making the case to stick with the 81 year old, even as some big money donors expect him to end his campaign, she's increasingly being seen as a possible replacement for her boss, though former house speaker nancy pelosi is understood to be calling for a competitive process to select a new nominee. back here, the chancellor says she's hoping to boost our pension pots by around £11,000 each. rachel reeves believes a review of retirement savings could unlock billions more in investment, with schemes encouraged to invest in assets such as infrastructure. the treasury says it would boost economic growth and ensure better returns for savers . mr better returns for savers. mr reevesis better returns for savers. mr reeves is due to chair a meeting with the pensions industry on monday. james murray is exchequer to secretary the treasury. he told gb news that smarter investments can help grow the economy now that by the end of this decade there will be

around £800 billion of assets in defined contribution pensions. >> now we want to see that money working harder for pensioners , working harder for pensioners, making sure that pensioners are getting the best possible return, that they can and that it's also more of it is invested in productive activities in the uk economy to help get economic growth up across the uk . growth up across the uk. >> a hate crime investigation is underway now after three pride flags were vandalised outside a forest gate railway station in east london. the met is appealing for information after the pavement paintings were covered with spray paint in the early hours of friday morning, follows previous incidents in june which the force believe are linked. officers have trawled cctv made house to house enquiries and conducted forensic investigations, but so far no arrests have been made . the snp arrests have been made. the snp is urging the foreign secretary to suspend the sale of arms to israel. in a letter to david lammy, the party said the government should take action now rather than wait for further reviews. mr lammy has said there

will be no blanket ban, but he will be no blanket ban, but he will consider issues linked to offensive weapons being used in gaza. the snp says there has been nine months of reviews into israel's compliance with international law, and there is no need to wait for another one. and a row has erupted between an auction house that sells sells elvis presley memorabilia and the icon's graceland estate. joel weinshenker, who's managing partner of elvis presley's enterprises, told nbc news that he doubts the authenticity of some of the items recently sold by gws auctions. he says his suspicious mind first started racing when he spotted a black grommet jacket for sale, which was said to be worn by the singer back in 1972. however, he believes the real jacket is still hanging in graceland's collection. he also doubts the veracity of other items offered for sale, including the star's private jet. gws auctions is insisting that the items are legit . those are the latest gp

legit. those are the latest gp news headlines for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com. code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray. although after the elvis story, at the very least, i was expecting a little bit of a hip swivel thing. nothing, honestly. people, i have to work with these days, right. okay, let's get straight into today's stories, shall we? are we witnessing the great brexit betrayal? a new law is being drawn up by ministers, which could put uk manufacturers in lock step with the eu on product safety rules for former cabinet big guns blasted sir keir starmer for trying to trade away our freedoms in a bid to cosy up

the eu, in a way, we're sort of like kind of mirroring what the eu are doing with their regulations. but here to explain it more is gb news political correspondent the wonderful olivia utley. olivia always come out in hives when anyone mentions the b word, and it's the front page of the sunday express. today we are being betrayed, evidently. can you tell us a bit more about what's going on here? >> well, keir starmer has said repeatedly ever since he first became leader of the opposition throughout the whole campaign that he would, as prime minister never think of rejoining the european union or the single market. but we know that obviously keir starmer was a pretty engaged campaigner for the remain campaign, and then he was a pretty engaged campaigner for the rejoin campaign after britain left the eu. he's now said that he's on board with brexit. but what brexiteers are worried about is that although britain has is not on track to leave the single market or to join the rejoin the single market or rejoin the eu, keir starmer could end up sort of

joining, rejoining the eu in a piecemeal way by the back door. so making britain's legislation in line with all of the eu's legislation at the moment, the talk is about a manufacturing deal talk is about a manufacturing deal. so making it possible for the uk to have a sort of zero export deal with the eu on manufacturing by pushing all our regulations in line with the eu. rachel reeves has also talked about a similar deal on food safety, and there are other deals sort of being discussed in back rooms as well, so we could end up in a situation where, although britain isn't technically in the eu or the customs union or the single market, it's sort of is to all intents and purposes, and for many brexiteers, that amounts to a betrayal of britain's sovereignty. because we signed, we left the eu in order to be able to make our own rules on issues like this. so if you're sign up to basically all of the eu's rules, it's sort of brexit in name only. hate to bring that

phrase up again, but that is arguably what we could end up in. >> olivia utley, thank you very much for mentioning the b word several times in that piece there, but very nicely explained. thank you very much, olivia . now, let's see what my olivia. now, let's see what my panel maker, this one, i know what one of them's going to think, that's for sure. so i'm going to go to you, emma, first on this one. now bearing in mind labour won back a lot of people in the red wall who originally voted very strongly for brexit. is this going to lose them support literally two weeks in i think we have to i think it's valid to question. >> look, we've just seen keir starmer hosting the that summit, that big eu summit at blenheim palace. and he was very buddy buddy with many of his eu counterparts. you know obviously rebuilding. and we to some extent we do need to rebuild that relationship with the eu. it's been awful since brexit and you know, macron and starmer looked very kind of one of those bromances all over again , but i bromances all over again, but i do think that there's a valid question. you know , 17.4 million question. you know, 17.4 million people voted for brexit. i think

it's valid to look at whether we are starting or whether we're going to be rejoining by stealth, you know, whether we're going to become closer and closer aligned going forward with eu, so that, as olivia says, we're effectively in lockstep with them. even though starmer has been clear that we're not going to he's not going to overturn the brexit referendum and that he's not seeking to sort of rerun that horribly divisive debate. but, i mean, 17.4 million people, what did they ask for? they didn't ask for him to start overturning things or to start going along with the eu. so i think that thatis with the eu. so i think that that is a valid it's valid to scrutinise him. >> if you put to the 17 17.5, was that right? >> if you put to the 17 17.5, was that right ?17.4 million was that right? 17.4 million people, did you vote so that you could have a slightly more powerful hoover that we can't sell in the eu? i doubt they would care that much. this is about compliance with eu product safety rules, which is things like hairdryer speeds so that we can sell them to the to the eu

bloc. otherwise we can't, so this is about the economy. if, if we said if we now know brexit costs the economy million billions more than covid. surely this is just sensible. like, do we you say take away the article says taking away brexit freedoms. do we really need those freedoms that just mean our products are ever so slightly different and it genuinely is. things like hoovers and hair dryers or shut out that freedom, do we? i think people voted more, for things like ending freedom of movement, which is totally in place. you don't need to feel threatened. and this little bit of, little bit of annotation to brexit is solely to benefit the economy. >> it isn't just hoovers and hairdryers, it is discussions about potentially taking asylum seekers , as we referred to you seekers, as we referred to you earlier, in return for returning illegal immigrants. but and amy, you can you know, you can justifiably go down to the, to the to the micro detail and say

slightly more powerful hairdryer, slightly more powerful hoover that we can't then sell into the eu. i get that, but if you come out at a macro level, it was about saying british sovereignty, british rules for british people. we get to make the rules , not a bunch to make the rules, not a bunch of unelected autocrats in in the bureaucrats , eurocrats in the eu bureaucrats, eurocrats in the eu that we can't remove that we don't get a vote for making the rule, having rules imposed upon us. that's what people were voting for. >> and people will still have that. >> well actually. >> well actually. >> brexit tiny tweak which is not a brexit betrayal. i think the daily express are being rather hysterical. >> ex—brexit secretary sir david davis says mirroring eu regulations is clearly against the spirit of the referendum. >> the spirit . yeah. >> the spirit. yeah. >> the spirit. yeah. >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> i mean, so obstinate. >> i mean, so obstinate. >> that's like a very childish way. >> but you've just used that kind of language about donald trump being a danger to democracy. you're to happy use that rhetoric when it suits you. >> literally wants to stuff the civil service with his own

loyalists and david davis and the presidential power and potentially not leave office. he doesn't want to insist we have slightly more powerful. >> he won't leave office. david davis is making a point about the spirit of brexit. the spirit of taking back our sovereignty. if you think that spirit is worth billions, control the economy so we all have less money. >> i think brexit costs over £1,000 per household per year on average. >> if you think that's a nonsense for the spirit of brexit, the costs of brexit are highly contested. >> i think it's more likely that putting the country into lockdown for, for, for two years and, you know, all of everything that's come from that has wrecked our economy and arguing about brexit for what, seven years now that's wrecked our economy. and having young people on benefits and not working has wrecked our economy. there are many, many reasons why we've wrecked our economy because we're in a terrible state, i think. i don't think that's true with brexit so much, didn't it? >> and arguably i think brexit also wrecked the conservative party. it changed their direction. it changed their

leadership. it changed their whole ethos. and i think arguably brexit is the moment that things changed in so many respects. >> i think it certainly made politics a more divisive debate. and shadow trade secretary kevin hollinrake said a choice to mirror eu rules would lock the uk into eu rules and red tape, and lock us out of meaningful trade agreements with other countries. >> but why can't we just trade the eu standard? i keep saying hairdryers and hoovers but it is very relevant. why can't we just trade eu products with those safety rules with the rest of the world as well? i don't understand why that exempts us from trading with the rest of the world. >> i'm not a trade expert. i'm not going to pretend to be. >> it just doesn't really make sense. compliance with the eu product safety means we can trade with the eu bloc and the rest of the world. surely not being in compliance with eu safety rules exempts us from trading with the eu. our neighbours like it makes sense. >> well, i mean lots of people

on here are saying this to and do keep the messages coming in, for cathy, example, says how is closer alignment to the eu going to affect the trade deals and fishing rights we have? right now, this is undoing brexit by the back door. yeah. migrant traffickers. oh, that's sorry, that's not about that, yeah . that's not about that, yeah. basically a brexit by the back door. basically a brexit by the back door . cathy again points out door. cathy again points out starmer is close to running dictatorship. he's overturning the referendum and plans to change our constitution. and this is the problem with this, emma . emma. >> we haven't even brought up the echr. dawn. well, exactly. you know, labour, because of the vast majority, can do pretty much what they want in any case. and we need to be really, really clear about this eu compliance in any shape or form. we voted to leave, whether you agree with it or not. we did to vote leave the eu. that's what brexit meant and it is a betrayal. and it does look like, you know, undoing brexit or betraying brexit by stealth. when we then start to realign and to reform

those relationships, that's not what people voted for. it was only a small majority, but it was a significant majority. >> now more people with buyer's regret over brexit. so do those people not have a say? but that's in a democracy. we should consider that. >> hold on, hold on. you see, you're already trying to overturn the referendum. you're saying that people who voted for it have now got regret. >> i actually don't want to change the referendum. and i think keir starmer has made it clear that labour don't want to change the referendum, but we want want to make it work. and this is a tiny, tiny, tiny thing that will open up some doors to helping it actually work and be beneficial to this country. >> why do you think so many? i mean, this is a good point that james has just made. james, thank you for your message, keir starmer is very ill informed. 17.4 million uk citizens. as we've mentioned , voted for we've mentioned, voted for brexit in 2016. does starmer realise that 48% of them were labour voters? and this is why the conservatives under boris johnson got that landslide in 2019, because it was about

brexit. >> yeah, but it wasn't about this particular thing that we're talking about today that the sunday express has splashed on. it wasn't about compliance with eu product safety rules, which is all this tiny tweak is we need to stop running away with ourselves and stop saying that this is undoing brexit. when it is just one tiny thing. >> i think there's a sense that it's the thin end of the wedge. that's what we're saying, that it becomes that we start to augn it becomes that we start to align more closely and it becomes this is the beginning. when they talk about the great brexit betrayal on the sunday express, they're talking about the beginning, the beginning of starting to undo , undo what starting to undo, undo what brexit meant to 17.4 million people. the betrayal started with the vote leave camp, persistently lying and then the deal going through. >> and then boris johnson making the worst brexit deal. i always say it's like you ordered a pizza and it turned up upside down and covered in hair. you got your brexit. but it was awful. so surely that's a bigger betrayal than what's happening now. how. >> now. >> unfortunately, we have to move on. but there's another

another rule that's being snuck in is a product safety ruling is about the flavour of smoky bacon crisps. so it could be more worrying than hang on a minute, what i changed. exactly so she's changed her mind completely. now it's a crisps that did it, >> this gets serious. >> this gets serious. >> we're all the best analysis and opinion on that story, go to our website, gb news. com very simple. and there's still plenty of time to grab your chance to escape from all of this and win £30,000 in the great british giveaway is our biggest cash prize of the door. just imagine what you could do this weekend. this weekend we spend a lot of money in one weekend this summer. with that amount of money, and here's how you can win it. >> don't miss your chance to win our super summer giveaway with your chance to win £30,000 cash! our biggest cash prize to date, which means you get to spend every single penny however you like . what plans would you make like. what plans would you make with an extra £30,000 cash in your bank account? take your

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being renovated to accommodate asylum seekers, the irish government says they must do more to engage with people who have genuine questions about increased migration. all of that and much more to come. this is gb news, britain's news channel. don't go too far.

hello and welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your telly, online and on digital radio. hope you have a wonderful sunday afternoon out there. now, simon harris, the government of ireland has said must do more to engage with people who have genuine questions over public service provision in the increased migration situation. this comes after violent clashes between rioters and police at the former crown paints factory in coolock in north dublin , a site proposed

in north dublin, a site proposed to be converted into accommodation facility, this is something that is not just happening in ireland. it's happening in ireland. it's happening many, many places in the uk as well. isn't it? we've seen it before here. i'm joined now by gb news reporter dougie beattie to bring us up to date on this story. dougie, thank you for joining us this afternoon. this is a story gb news have been covering for a while now. can you bring us up to date on the latest developments? >> well, yes. this this is all about, immigrants being placed into a working class area. an area that is, sees a lot of social housing in it and very little infrastructure to deal with what is already there. and the residents here are very much up in arms because of that and saying, look, nobody asked us, could they bring more people into this area? and they're very worried about who exactly is coming in, because most of these immigrants that are coming in are unvetted, because ireland has had not as many immigrants as england has had. but when you

take the population of ireland is only about 5.2 million. well, you can imagine over a very short space of time that one fifth of the population says that they do not they do not see themselves as irish. it is quite worrying. and, a mother from this area will join me now. jade mitchell. jade, tell us a little bit about your concerns here. >> my concerns is they haven't even been put into this former paint factory yet, but yet the community is up in arms. it's already falling apart. we have the holiday inn flooded with them as it is. so they're taking over our kids local football pitches. our local parks are playgrounds . we can't let our playgrounds. we can't let our kids out to play as it is. so why would anybody not expect us to oppose of this? we don't want it. we've said no numerous times. no one is listening to us. i have two children myself. my us. i have two children myself. my daughter has not been allowed walk down this road the past two weeks over what's been going on. it just can't happen. >> so what do you see? the answer being the answer being coolock is saying no and we need to be listened to. and there's

no room. [10 room. >> no room. >> there's no room. i can't get a home for my two children. i have a 14 year old around here in a bedroom with no bedroom dooh in a bedroom with no bedroom door, because we just don't have it. we have no room. >> well, there you go. you've heard it from a mother of this area. they are very upset about what's happening here. and of course, simon harris has now said the taoiseach has now said that they need to talk and engage with the local community. but that was only after substantial civil disturbances here throughout the week . and here throughout the week. and right draghi just very quickly, how did it happen that the community weren't even consulted ? community weren't even consulted? well, they weren't they were they were just told that this was going to be an asylum centre. and this is happening right across ireland, and it's mostly in the working class areas that it's happening. what happens is this is former industrial sites and they the community here actually wanted this industrial sites for other things for themselves, including

social housing, and were denied it.then social housing, and were denied it. then they were told that the site was bought over and the first they knew of it was when workmen appeared in the site and the horrifying thing for this community is they voted in the last elections and they voted in councillors of their own choosing, not of any political party. and when those politicians went to the garda front lines last week to try and defuse the situation, they were pepper sprayed and the community here are saying to me, look, what chance have we talking to the government if our own politicians are being attacked by the police force that's meant to be protecting us and that's the feeling here. now, that was a very bad mistake by the police force here in ireland. and it must be, said the minister, helen mccarthy. >> dougie beattie. thank you very much for bringing us up to date on that, frankly quite shocking story. and it does always seem to be the poorer working class communities that are the ones that are the sharp end of these immigration policies . amy, i'm coming to you

policies. amy, i'm coming to you first. you would potentially say that lady that was complaining about her daughters not being able to walk down the road is racist. no. >> i think what we need to remember is the asylum seekers don't want to be in that detention centre any more than the local residents don't want them there. they want to have their claims processed, they want to be able to get on with their lives. so the real problem here is the processing speed. nobody wants to be cooped up in three a man to one room. hotel in name only. and for an indefinite period of time. this is ireland and we're not. >> it's not the uk we're talking about. so why didn't they just apply about. so why didn't they just apply for asylum as they can do, in theory, easier in an eu country? >> i think we've pushed this problem onto ireland slightly because by not by being the 20th per capita in europe, we don't take our fair share of asylum seekers. we are in a much stronger position stability wise economically, to be able to accept and house and accommodate asylum seekers than ireland is .

asylum seekers than ireland is. so this is a knock on effect of us not being responsible, i don't think i think the key thing is not to forget that. >> sorry, we've got just running out of time for the news. emma, a quick word. >> well, no, it's funny how when posh nimbys subject to planning and changes in their local communities, that's okay and that's valid. but when locals have very, very valid concerns, really about really valid concerns about safety, about space, about resources local resources in their local communities, as xenophobic. >> right? okay. we're running out unfortunately, out of time. unfortunately, a fascinating report from draghi. i'm dawn neesom gb news and there's loads more coming up in today's show. but first, it is time for the news headlines with ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks, dawn. 230 in the united states, donald trump says nobody warned him of a possible threat in the moments before he was shot by a gunman in pennsylvania . in an interview pennsylvania. in an interview with fox news, the republican nominee said the lack of information was a mistake and the event should have been delayed. comes as the secret

service faces ongoing questions over how the would be assassin was able to wander outside the security perimeter before taking his position on a roof that was even after local officers had reported him acting suspiciously . reported him acting suspiciously. and in his first rally since that assassination attempt, donald trump told the supporters there that he took a bullet for democracy. he appeared alongside his vp running mate jd vance in michigan, their first joint appearance. trump is hoping to win the crucial swing state that president biden took in 2020. meanwhile, kamala harris insists that president biden will win the us election despite continuing pressure from fellow democrats to stand aside. the vice president was making the case to stick with the 81 year old, even as some big money donors expect him to end his campaign. she's increasingly being seen as a possible replacement for her boss back here. the chancellor says she's hoping to boost our pension pots

by around £11,000. rachel reeves believes a review of retirement savings could unlock billions more in investment, with schemes encouraged to invest in assets such as infrastructure. the treasury says it would boost economic growth and ensure better returns for savers and hate crime . investigation is now hate crime. investigation is now underway after three pride flags were vandalised outside a forest gate railway station in east london. the met is appealing for info after the pavement paintings were covered with spray paint in the early hours of friday. officers have been trawling through cctv footage, making house to house enquiries and conducting forensic investigations . those are the investigations. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray, now lots of i'm just going to read this out very, very quickly. this is from james james. good afternoon. i'm very proudly voted for brexit. so the uk could once again become a sovereign country. i also campaigned on the nigel farage bus. i did know exactly what i was voting for and i am not thick, racist or bigoted either. please don't assume that's the case. thank you very much. keep your messages coming and this is exactly how you do it, it is very simple, she says, desperately trying to remember. you visit gbnews.com/yoursay and join this conversation, or message me on our socials @gbnews. there's loads more coming up on today's show. so you really want to go anywhere, in an exclusive interview with gb news newly elected mp natalie fleet reveals how she was groomed and bravely revealed what happened when she became a mum at just 15. it's a shocking interview, really need to hear it. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and this

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welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online. on digital radio. now gb news. gloria de piero has a new real me interview. newly elected labour mp for bolsover, natalie fleet. she reveals how she became pregnant at 15 after being groomed by an older man, and that has moved her to a voice of reason for all those women that have children in far from ideal circumstances. have a watch. it's moving stuff. >> natalie fleet mp you are the labour mp for bolsover. >> you've been the labour mp for bolsover for a couple of weeks. how does it feel? >> it feels like the absolute

honour of a lifetime. i am very excited. >> i am a little bit terrified and scared because the palace can be quite intimidating, but i'm just absolutely determined to work out how you do all the things that you need to do so that i things that you need to do so that! can things that you need to do so that i can get real change for local people. >> that is the most exciting part . part. >> why did you even choose this life? why politics? why not? i know there was a lot of the jobs out there. i worked for a trade union and i loved it, and it meant that i could go to the shopin meant that i could go to the shop in my pyjamas and nobody cared. >> you know, if you forgot milk at the end of the night, you were having a pyjama day. >> you could just nip and nobody cared. it's quite normal where i come from. >> and now i've chosen to do something that comes with loads of security risks and is quite, very different and very public, hence doing things like this. >> but the reason that i do it is because when i was younger, things were tough and i had a labour government. >> i was 13 when labour came to

power and when we were homeless, a labour government made sure that there was enough housing stock for us to be rehoused. and then when i had my first child at a very young age, i could send her to a surestart nursery. i could, carry on, go to university with a first in the family scholarship. i could work in a minimum wage job. i could send my children because i've got two by then to a sure start nursery, and it just felt like i needed the support of the state. and my god, i got it. and then, right now, before i did this, i worked for a trade union and i was absolutely desperate to give back to my teachers, my teachers had invested in me. the labour government made sure that my teachers had time to teach me and look after me, and i then saw that i was paying taxes and they weren't being invested in young children like me or teachers. we needed a new government on my estate, the estate where we were rehoused. i

looked around and there were, you know, people struggled and i see now people that i was close to when i was younger that are now, suffer with addiction or poverty scars. ultimately poverty scars. ultimately poverty scars. ultimately poverty scars . and what poverty poverty scars. and what poverty has done to me is meant that i work and work and work and work and work and have poverty scars. do you have poverty? do you feel like you. oh yeah. yeah, yeah. so when somebody knocks on the dooh so when somebody knocks on the door, it's hilarious because i knock on people's doors. but if somebody knocks on my door, i won't answer it because i'm still scared. it's the bailiffs. it's that. that what happens to you in your childhood stays with you. and i. when we were little, it felt like we were struggling, but we were an exception. whereas now it's a third of children in every class and in areas in bolsover, it's more than that and it's absolutely heartbreaking . and so therefore heartbreaking. and so therefore i could either be angry about what's happened over the past 14 years, sad and feel powerless ,

years, sad and feel powerless, or i could come into parliament and try and do something about it. i mean, what an honour you talked about . talked about. >> you became a young mum. yeah. how young ? how young? >> i was 15, 15 when i got pregnant. that's really hard . pregnant. that's really hard. yeah. you're not. >> you're not the only 15 year old to get pregnant. but for every 15 year old who becomes pregnant, that is tough . you pregnant, that is tough. you become a mum at 16? yeah, yeah . become a mum at 16? yeah, yeah. >> and we had the highest teenage pregnancy rates in europe, so i definitely didn't feel like i was on my own . and feel like i was on my own. and the last labour government implemented a teenage pregnancy strategy, so it meant that i'm going to stop you talking about politics now. stop. sorry, sorry, sorry. you can do that in loads of interviews that are going to come. but i want to know you're 15 years old, you got pregnant . got pregnant. >> you're a mum at 16. this is not a common story in parliament. >> yeah, it's not completely unique, but it is certainly not

common. >> that is a lot of responsibility on a 15 year old's shoulder. >> so she's 23 now and she is the absolute love of my life . the absolute love of my life. not enough people think we're sisters. i would like that to happen more for anybody watching. they would like to call her my sister . watching. they would like to call her my sister. i am so proud of everything she is . i am proud of everything she is. i am thrilled. she makes me proud every single day. her her two dogs, her three goats and her chickens. in her own home. and i'm so proud of her. but at the time, when i was 15, i felt full of shame and guilt and responsibility. and all i was determined to do is make sure that she had a life that was as good as she would have had to any age parent. that was what i was determined to do. i didn't think about me or the impact. now, 23 years later, i look back and i think that wasn't okay. that was an older man. that was potentially i mean, now we have

labels like grooming that we didn't have then i didn't know we were having unprotected sex. you know, this is i was i was a child and this is statutory rape. you know, at the time, this isn't something that we were we're talking about. it's not how i saw myself. i saw myself, as, you know, at 15, you definitely think you're old enough to do all these things. but another thing that i can do now, i'm here is i really want to be a voice for all of those people. all of those women that have children in far from ideal circumstances . so i wanted to circumstances. so i wanted to talk to her about where she came from and about what happened. and it was really difficult for me to say to her, i don't think this is entirely consensual, and i think i might have been groomed, and i don't think this is an appropriate relationship. she took it really well. but what i did is i googled in advance just some tips, just a fact sheet and to how do something about children

conceived via rape, statutory or otherwise. and i found nothing. i found absolutely nothing. i found out there were fact sheets about rape being used as a war crime. there was nothing. there was no acknowledgement that it happensin was no acknowledgement that it happens in the uk. and the more research i've done, i've found that there are over 3000 conceptions every year from rape, but there's no charity to support those women. there's no there's no help advice support helpline that you can go to think, how do i tell my child that i love that it's everything to me that this is where they came from? and then most importantly, it is biologically very clear what happened because i was 15 years old. yeah. and he was older. and i can prove where she came from. so that's statutory rape. but there are so many women that this happens to. there was 3000 that we estimate it happens to a year, which is probably the tip of the iceberg that don't speak about it, that don't say because they know they won't believed. and then even if

by some miracle, we moved to a society where women were believed, once you say this is your child, then that man can come and have access to that child . it doesn't matter how child. it doesn't matter how that child was conceived. even if you prove it's rape, that man can have access to that child and help to bring it up. and that's absolutely terrifying. this is a perpetrator that has hurt the mother that can then have access to the child. and again, i think that having a platform in parliament to be able to talk more about it and do something about it, actually honorary lifetime, you may or may not want to answer this, by the way, as you are describing what happened to you, my whole bodyis what happened to you, my whole body is shaking to hear about that part of your life story. >> are you in touch with that? with that man? >> no. no. he. so he hasn't wanted access to your daughter? no, thankfully. >> but you're. but it is. it is the fact that he technically

could. >> yes. >> yes. >> that is something that you want to turn into a campaign. >> yes . he want to turn into a campaign. >> yes. he told me to have an abortion. at the time. he never met her. he never wanted anything to do with her. and he was very dismissive. and he told me many times that he knew lots of ways that he wouldn't have to pay a of ways that he wouldn't have to pay a penny towards her, because all his friends had already, evaded csa all of their children's lives. and yeah, and he would do the same. and he was very intent on telling me all the ways that he wouldn't contribute to her life. i thought, you know, i don't need you to, but i didn't realise how lucky i was at the time because the fact that he didn't want anything to do with her life was anything to do with her life was a good thing, because if he had wanted something to do with her, he could have, regardless of the way she was conceived and is that your mission? >> you'll have many missions, but that is a very, very deeply personal mission , which you may personal mission, which you may be the first. according to my own recollections, to speak out about it. this is your mission to make sure that women like you are supporters, that the person

who has caused harm to the mum do not have access to the child . do not have access to the child. >> yeah. and that that child, that precious , wonderful miracle that precious, wonderful miracle of a child has support about being comfortable with where they come from. how do you overcome something like that? how often are you traumatised by it ? it? >> are you daily? is this a daily, a daily trauma to you? to recollect that 23 years later, i still have weekly nightmares about it , but still have weekly nightmares about it, but it's not still have weekly nightmares about it , but it's not the still have weekly nightmares about it, but it's not the only part of my life that i have weekly nightmares about. >> and i think that. children, the lives that they live have a huge impact for the rest of their lives. so now i have huge privilege and advantage, and i'm thrilled to be here. but what happenedin thrilled to be here. but what happened in my childhood still has a massive impact on me, which is why. and i know you say we're not allowed to get to the politics, but god, i'm so excited about what the next

labour government is going to do in terms of making sure that kids aren't hungry when they learn, you know, that's incredible. and people say, we're not being adventurous enough. we're not being bold enough. we're not being bold enough. we're not being bold enough. we're going to make sure that we're smashing down barriers to opportunity so that there can be more stories like mine . i am a product of the last mine. i am a product of the last labour government. it wasn't a perfect government, but it changed my life and it was transformational. and i the reason that it's worth doing a job where you can't go to the shopin job where you can't go to the shop in your pyjamas anymore, but we're still you have a panic alarm in your bag. they're going to your your own children are potentially at risk. that's really awful. but when it means that you can make other children's lives who aren't as fortunate better. and that's incredible how many children have you got nothing for? for i would have had six. but my husband said, because i like to have them in twos, two girls and two boys. my husband said four was enough for him to look after while i did this. >> well, exactly. so is he the primary? i mean, i guess he must

be. >> yeah, he's the gas engineer. he's absolutely not a plumber. and he would like me to say that. for the record, because apparently there's a difference. and that one. >> did somebody say he was a i must have said it at some point andifs must have said it at some point and it's now been quoted in an article and he is not very happy. >> he's absolutely a gas engineer. and it means that he can be the primary carer. and they are very lucky to have him. ichose they are very lucky to have him. i chose well, he's he's a good man and a fantastic dad. >> wow, he does sound like an amazing dad. >> yeah, an amazing husband . >> yeah, an amazing husband. >> yeah, an amazing husband. >> you talked about getting the panic alarm. it shouldn't be necessary . do you feel scared ? necessary. do you feel scared? >> i don't, because i see kim leadbeater in parliament. and i think if she can be brave enough to do it, then, my god, i can. what isn't very nice is to see my family scared. so 23 year old, 20 year old, 15 year old. they're all aware. but the reason that i told them is because, you know, we're okay, we're all okay. and there's lots

of people that aren't and therefore it's a risk. but the risk is small and it's worth taking. but better still, let's fight for a nicer kind of politics. let's do things like this so they can see that i'm a normal person that wants to come from my area down to parliament to make it better for local people, and that's what lots of mps want. it's just make their area better. final question. yes it's a bit lighter. >> okay. we've been to our journey during this interview for sure. there's lots of bars in parliament, >> i mean, i used to frequent them quite a bit myself when i was, in there. >> do you go to them? do you have a drink? do you go over to you? >>i you? >> i love parliament's bars, and i still can't believe in 2024. we have a workplace with so many bars, but i, i love being in them. what i realised that i had to do is that i noticed that, you know, with all of this trauma that we've spoken about, addiction is something that i

felt was a real risk for me. i heard what alastair campbell said about the bars in parliament. i knew the pressures i was coming into and two years in october, i haven't had a dnnk in october, i haven't had a drink and i now love and enjoy the bars and i can have a 0% beer and enjoy it with everybody else, knowing that i'm not going to be the one that headbutts the tories or anything like that. >> natalie fleet, tories or anything like that. >> natalie fleet , you tories or anything like that. >> natalie fleet, you are tories or anything like that. >> natalie fleet , you are the >> natalie fleet, you are the first interview of this new generation of mps. i feel very lucky that you are the first, and i also feel that parliament is lucky to have you on those green benches. natalie fleet, mp bolsover. thank

>> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom your tv online and on digital radio,

in an exclusive interview with gb news newly elected mp natalie fleet has revealed that she was, groomed and revealed what happened when she became a mum at 15. it was a very emotional interview with her very own gloria de piero there, obviously it was a horror story, emma, what did you make of what she had to say? >> yeah, i mean, it was very moving. i think it's really important and actually quite refreshing to hear some different perspectives from our sort of political leaders. i think it's very, very important that you hear kind of, you know, different life experiences from our elected mps. you know , our elected mps. you know, staggeringly wealthy white, male, stale, middle aged, male politicians, nothing against middle aged men. but we've had a real generation of this, and it's very important to hear from single mums, from women who've been through what natalie fleet has been through, and just to hear some different life perspectives, people who've gone through tough times and i think that she'll bring that to politics. and that's really

important. >> many of you are agreeing, natalie, natalie fleet, you are amazing. that's from jenny and a chap as well called duncan . chap as well called duncan. thank you for getting in touch. natalie is an amazing woman in my opinion. thank you for being so strong. what did you make of what you heard her say, amy? >> in the in the interview, natalie said, there's no acknowledgement that this kind of thing happens in the uk and it it turns out that three , 3300 it it turns out that three, 3300 births a year come about through circumstances like natalie's. and i hope that this interview can raise awareness of this problem and hopefully help some of the victims of this. i know that victims of grooming gangs more widely, grooming gangs, have not had adequate, compensation yet, and that their counselling funding is really minimal. so hopefully we can. natalie's story can start to spark up a conversation about the victims of grooming, grooming gangs more widely. >> it is all a subject we need

to talk more about. thank you very much. emma wolf and amy nicholl for joining very much. emma wolf and amy nicholl forjoining me very much. emma wolf and amy nicholl for joining me this sunday lunchtime. really appreciate your time . i've been appreciate your time. i've been dawn neesom been gb news sunday. thank you for all joining us this afternoon. but please don't go anywhere. nana is up next with a cracking show, but first, the most important thing we all need to know this weekend sunday afternoon.

>> hello. good afternoon. it is 3:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of those big topics that are hitting the headlines right now . hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs . and of it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so

joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton in a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in the clash with businessman and campaigner ben habib and also former labour defence minister ivor kaplan . defence minister ivor kaplan. right, coming up in today's show, do you trust labour on migration then for nana nigel, i'll be giving you my verdict on london's albert memorial, considered highly offensive. i think some of the words there were colonialism and empire . and were colonialism and empire. and this week my outside guest is the presenter and an extremely recognisable figure in both radio and television. she once went out with a rather famous chaseh went out with a rather famous chaser. can you guess who she is then? in clip bait. what do you think happens next? we're on a motorway. it's about a four lane motorway. it's about a four lane motorway. a car stops and is indicating to leave, but the car that stops in the middle lane.