>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hey. very good afternoon to you. >> and a very you. >> and a very hap py you. >> and a very happy monday. >> and a very happy monday. >> it's 3 pm, and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. >> we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. >> on today's show, kamala harris is in pole position to be the next democrat nominee after joe biden finally sensationally quits yesterday. but is the vp up to the top job.7 later in the show, she will deliver her first major speech since biden walked, and gb news will be covering it live. next up , microsoft has live. next up, microsoft has sensationally blamed the european union for the world's biggest tech disaster. last

week, after the eu competition rules allow crowdstrike to access their software's kernel with brussels responsible for a cyber attack that vladimir putin would have been proud of . and would have been proud of. and we'll catch up with all the latest day's royal news. at the second in line to the throne, prince george celebrates his 11th birthday with a wonderful photograph. and that's all coming up between now and 6:00. welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. so much has happened in politics over the weekend. it's hard to know to where start, but a good starting point will be who's going to be the next president. kamala harris is likely to be on the offensive against donald trump, as she puts herself into pole position. maybe there goes this kind of gentler politics over the other side of the atlantic . did anybody think that atlantic. did anybody think that would actually last.7 and an exclusive coming up in the show today, last week, we reveal 1.65

million illegal immigrants had arrived into the european union. 27 member states. today, we can reveal over 1 27 member states. today, we can reveal over1 million asylum seeker, first time asylum seeker claims last year alone, a 66% increase in five years, and the report's author, lee evans, will tell me that the european union's asylum problem could soon become britain's small boats nightmare. getting in touch all the usual ways, gbnews.com/yoursay but now it's time for your headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 3:00. your top story this hour. an 11 year old girl has been left orphaned following a horrific crash which killed four members of her family, as well as two motorcyclists in west yorkshire . motorcyclists in west yorkshire. shane roller, his partner shannon morgan , and their shannon morgan, and their daughters lily and ruby, died on the a 61 near wakefield when

their ford focus was in a collision with a motorbike. a go fund me page set up for 11 year old poppy, who was not in the car , has reached more than car, has reached more than £31,000. the scene of the crash has remained closed while police investigations continue . investigations continue. superintendent alan travis, from west yorkshire police , said this west yorkshire police, said this is an absolutely tragic incident which has resulted in the loss of six lives. donations to the us democratic party have surged after president joe biden announced he's standing down from the us presidential race. the 81 year old has endorsed kamala harris as democratic candidate. it comes after the us president faced increasing calls to step aside since a faltering debate performance against republican donald trump last month . and the news comes just month. and the news comes just four months before americans go to the polls, upending the race for the white house. the prime minister, sir keir starmer, has praised mr biden, a man who ,

praised mr biden, a man who, dunng praised mr biden, a man who, during five decades of service never lost touch with the concerns of working people and always put his country first. >> a true friend of the labour movement, his presidency will leave a legacy that extends far beyond america to freedom and security. on this continent. >> in other news, the prime minister has set out plans to cut reliance on foreign workers by improving skills training in england . skills england was england. skills england was a manifesto pledge from labour and is designed to fix a fragmented and broken training systems. in and broken training systems. in a speech today, sir keir starmer argued that a new approach is needed to reduce the need for immigration in key sectors. but the conservatives have warned that the plans to redirect cash could slash the number of apprenticeships on offer . apprenticeships on offer. meanwhile, the conservative leadership race is gathering pace with shadow work and pensions secretary mel stride the latest tory to hint at a run

for the top job. speaking to gb news earlier, he was asked whether he would stand. >> i haven't ruled that out and i haven't ruled it in. we don't yet know what the contest holds. the party board is going to come forward shortly. i think with the process, and i will finally take a decision at that time, some colleagues have been speaking to me about that possibility and it's something that i'm weighing up now. >> israeli officials have announced that two more hostages have been confirmed dead after being taken captive by hamas terrorists . alex danzig, who's terrorists. alex danzig, who's 75, and 35 year old yaakov buchstab, were abducted following the october 7th hamas attacks on israel. the israel defence forces have told their families that their bodies are still being held by the terrorist group in gaza , and the terrorist group in gaza, and the prince and princess of wales have shared a new photo of prince george to mark his 11th birthday. the image was taken by his mother, princess catherine, and posted on kensington

palace's social media accounts. the black and white shot shows the future king smiling, wearing a white shirt and a dark blazer. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia . now we've >> thank you sophia. now we've got lots and lots coming up over the next three hours. so let's get cracking. and there's really only one place to start. and it's the fallout from a dramatic , it's the fallout from a dramatic, huge weekend in american politics and the us vice president kamala harris, will speak at half past four british time this afternoon. of course, we're covering that here live on gb news. and it's less than 24 hours since joe biden stunned

the world by finally conceding defeat in his bid to remain as president . and meanwhile, secret president. and meanwhile, secret service director kimberly cheatle is testifying currently at a hearing into the security lapses surrounding the assassination attempt on donald trump. cheatle has been facing calls to resign, and we'll bring you developments from that as well. throughout the show. now, there's just so much to get our teeth into. where do we start? kamala harris is in pole position. she hasn't yet, though, been officially anointed. the coronation hasn't happened.sheis anointed. the coronation hasn't happened. she is due to speak, though, and overjust over an though, and over just over an hours though, and over just over an hour's time . well, of course hour's time. well, of course have all eyes on that. and ahead of that, i'm now joined by our reporter, mark white. mark welcome to the show . mark, a welcome to the show. mark, a huge amount to a huge amount to discuss here, she's already set us all out. kamala harris calling donald trump a convicted felon. the so—called unity

politics didn't last very long, did it? but it's not yet a fait accompli, mark. it's not yet a done deal. certain big names have yet to come out and back. kamala harris bring us up to speed. >> yeah. i mean , certainly she's >> yeah. i mean, certainly she's had a lot of endorsements from senior democrats and not so senior democrats and not so senior democrats and not so senior democrats running at about 500 or so last count. so a lot of people have come forward. it's for those that would like to see other candidates come forward, for that democratic national, congress when that takes place, next month, it the difficulty i think, with it is going to be that it just leaves such a short period of time for anyone to credibly put forward, anyone to credibly put forward, a campaign that's going to be credible, taking on donald

trump. they'd have to raise the finance because they wouldn't be able , under electoral rules, to able, under electoral rules, to raid the finance funds of the biden campaign. they would have to get a staff in place. so it's a really tough ask. the thing that obviously for kamala harris, you know, going forward is concerned is that she, does have that apparatus. she can because there is a joint campaign committee between her and joe biden, use the funds that have been raised for the biden—harris campaign going forward, and it would be a much more relatively simple slot in, for her to just take over from joe biden to and run that campaign with whoever she decides to pick as her running mate. but let's see, we've got the democratic national convention rules committee who are going to be meeting this

coming wednesday . they will then coming wednesday. they will then decide on what the way forward for the convention is. and they promised that they are going to make that fully transparent. martin, it will be live streamed so people can see exactly what their decision making process is . their decision making process is. >> and mark, it was believed to be barack obama. the final convincing factor that made joe biden finally see sense over the weekend. and interestingly, tellingly, perhaps mark white barack obama hasn't yet come out and officially backed kamala harris . he's and officially backed kamala harris. he's the kingmaker. he's the god maker in the democrat party. still, all these years later, is there any significance, do you think, mike, mark in his silence so far on this , or is this just on this, or is this just procedure being followed ? procedure being followed? >> well, you know, he's someone that when he was, in office was known for taking his time over

important decisions. so it is possible that it is just something that he is waiting for a period of time before coming forward and endorsing kamala harris on, or there might be something else afoot. we just don't know. the whole issue around surrounding joe biden has been the most extraordinary drama of late. that nothing would really surprise me, and i think there is a great deal of anger as well within the democratic base. what they, to put it bluntly, see, as a cover, a cover up by the higher ups in the democratic party and the administration, a cover up of joe biden's, sort of decline in health and his cognitive decline as well , that many within the as well, that many within the base say they weren't made fully aware of. but of course, in that debate against donald trump, it was laid bare. it was just

agonising to watch. and there was no way back for those that have been accused of being part of this cover up, you cannot say that that was anything other than an unmitigated disaster for joe biden, and it did show some serious issues surrounding his health and cognitive abilities and the other people on the ticket. >> gavin newsom, the governor of california. he said he's unlikely to stand against kamala harris. likewise, gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan, said they won't change. they were the other big names on the ticket. and then, of course, the conspiracy theorists go into overdrive . why theorists go into overdrive. why hasn't barack obama, announced? is it because his his his the former first lady, michelle obama could be a bombshell surprise on the ticket mark? or is that kind of psychodrama? not likely. >> well , likely. >> well, certainly sources in the states that are better connected than me are suggesting thatis connected than me are suggesting that is not the issue that she

is not intending to put her name forward at all. so you know, things can change. but at the moment there is no belief that, michelle obama is intending to run for office, you were mentioning those names. run for office, you were mentioning those names . another mentioning those names. another one is josh shapiro of course, the governor in pennsylvania, who was acquitted himself very well indeed during the tumult over the assassination attempt on donald trump. of course, it was his state, and he was straight out of the traps condemning that , offering his condemning that, offering his assistance and support to the former president. well, he has also endorsed kamala harris, and he has been looked at as we're told, a potential vice president for kamala harris. should she go forward ? of course, he is in forward? of course, he is in a swing state, so she could do worse than go for him. another name being mentioned is mark

kelly, the former war hero and nasa astronaut. again, he's in a swing state. he's a senator in nevada. so again, that might be a possible vp pick for kamala harris should she go forward? as the presidential nominee for the democrats? really interesting. really looking forward to seeing these remarks, i think, from kamala harris, this afternoon at 430, our time when she's on the south lawn of the white house at a sporting event . but she is a sporting event. but she is going to use that opportunity to make her remarks about what has happened over the weekend and her move forward here. >> well, mark white a cracking start to show you . thank you start to show you. thank you very much. and what a ride it's going to be all the way now until november the 5th. how fitting. thank you very much. mark white. and i'm joined now by david dunn who is a professor of international politics at the university of birmingham. welcome to the show. professor

dunn. welcome to the show. professor dunn . since we were speaking dunn. since we were speaking last week, i think we called this right. i think you said it was it would be unlikely that joe biden would survive the weekend. reality bites . in the weekend. reality bites. in the end, he simply ran out of road. the big question now kamala harris looking like the most likely shoo in as the candidate for the democrat party. is she up to the job? >> well, there's been one of the reasons why biden hung on so long was that there was a great deal of scepticism, even within the democratic party, as to whether she is the best person to replace biden. >> and as you say, we've had a lot of the big names in the democratic party haven't yet endorsed her. >> you mentioned obama, nancy pelosi, who was behind the scenes getting rid of biden, has yet to endorse kamala harris. >> and indeed , the leaders of >> and indeed, the leaders of the democrats in the house and the democrats in the house and the senate haven't done so ehhen the senate haven't done so either. so it's not a done deal yet, even though the momentum does seem to be with her. but as you say, the compacted process means that they may well be

forced to accept her and take the risks that go with that. she is not someone who upholds very high. she hasn't got a great likeability rating in opinion polls, nor has she ever done so. but i imagine what their strategy is that in the in the future, going forward, in the next four months, that she can use the momentum of a new being, a new candidate to actually improve her status and go on and beat, trump in november. but it's a high, stakes process to follow. it's a it's a difficult strategy. but then the alternative of sticking with joe biden was problematic because he was going down in the polls, not just in the swing states, but actually in other, states as well, that the democrats had hoped to win easily. so what you have is a switch from one risky strategy to another, in potentially endorsing kamala harris, it's interesting. >> you could already see the lines of attack donald trump has

wasted no time in putting the boot into kamala harris . looks boot into kamala harris. looks like the unity politics in america lasted precisely one week, professor dunn and she's already putting herself forward as a as a former california attorney general. good vie bad. she's made a statement earlier on today. i'm expecting we'll see much more of this in over an hours see much more of this in over an hour's time. kamala harris stands up to fraudsters and criminals donald trump is a convicted felon. she's also going to be attacking donald trump's age. don't think that's a bit rich, seeing as she turned a bit rich, seeing as she turned a blind eye to joe biden's obviously decrepit age. for all these past months. >> well, that's politics for you, isn't it? i mean, you go with what you can go get at and she's 59 and age was a concern across the piece . it wasn't just across the piece. it wasn't just that joe biden's age was an issue . 75% of the american issue. 75% of the american population, when polled , said population, when polled, said that they liked neither of these candidates. they regarded them as too old and too much of a representation of the past. so what she's trying to do is to make that age difference an

advantage for her to and portray trump as now the old guy. having biden dropped out, and to point to his verbal gaffes that he makes on occasion too. so she's using that as a part of her strategy. she's also using the fact that she is , as you say, a fact that she is, as you say, a distinguished lawyer and a prosecutor. so it's prosecutor versus felon is the is the attack line, and it's , her attack line, and it's, her looking for advantage wherever she can. >> yeah. they're going back down the route of white hats and black hats. good guys. and bad guys. but can i talk to you a little bit about the media reaction, the supportive media in america? i think breathing a sigh of relief that joe biden has stepped down, calling extraordinary, courageous, patriotic . this extraordinary, courageous, patriotic. this is extraordinary, courageous, patriotic . this is what patriotic. this is what leadership looks like. but a fascinating point from the wall street journal. they say in the bet on joe biden was an epic miscalculation by the democrats, who've misled their own voters by the millions the democrats will pay for the big biden lie.

and what they're saying here, what they're intimating is that there was an institutional cover up for joe there was an institutional cover up forjoe biden's mental wherewithal, his physical health, whatever it was. i don't suppose they'll tell us in a hurry. do you think there's something in that? as a consequence, professor dunn, they simply haven't got enough time. now it's only a matter of months away until november. that's a blink of an eyelid in politics terms . politics terms. >> it's a blink of an eye in politics terms in american elections that usually take two years. but the french managed to have an election in less than three weeks. it took six weeks of a campaign in in the uk. there's no reason why it needs to be this long actually, given the money, money and television attention. actually, four months is quite a long time , by any is quite a long time, by any other standard for this campaign to run, the question of, of, whether there was a cover up or not. i mean, it's interesting in biden's statement, he didn't say because he was going because he was old or because he had any illness. what he said he was going was because he didn't think he could beat donald trump and other candidates could. so

it was an electoral strategy rather than an admission of anything else. and of course, you know , other commentators are you know, other commentators are saying there's a difference between being good at campaigning and being good at governing. and the saying that actually biden is good at making the decisions, but he's not very good on the stump. and other people point to say, well, actually, trump is very good at campaigning, but he wasn't very good at governing, you know, he actually achieved very little in office. he didn't build that wall. he didn't make mexico pay for it, he didn't achieve an awful lot other than a big tax cut. so actually, there's a comparison there between what you're looking at, whether it's about the campaigning process or the governing process. and actually they require different skill sets. >> do you think we can expect to see i mean, i'm expecting from about an hour's time this unity politics will go out the window. i'm expecting this to be visceral. i'm expecting it to be exciting. i'm expecting this to be back to what we saw before and expecting kamala harris to attack donald trump. and for this to get very, very personal,

it's amazing how soon that, attempted assassination has gone out the window . out the window. >> yeah. i mean, of course, i mean, a trump himself didn't stick to that script very much ehhen stick to that script very much either. his his speech at the national convention in milwaukee, which was scripted for him. he got bored about ten minutes into it and went back to his stump speech from his rallies. so actually, he's not really sticking to that either. and if you look at some of the tweets that he's put out and to socials that he's put out, he's fairly vicious in the way in which he has gone after both biden and, harris. even suggesting that the, biden's illness of covid is a fake to keep him off the public stage . keep him off the public stage. so i think what we can expect, as you say, is a fairly brutal campaign. american politics is deeply divided , deeply deeply divided, deeply polarised, and actually it's very personal. and that personal stuff comes as much from trump as it does from harris. >> i've got to say, david and i'm hugely looking forward to it. i don't think there'll be a dull moment if you comment on politics like we do. wow, these

are the salad days. david dern, professor of international politics at the university of birmingham. once again, always a huge pleasure to have you on the show. now, as you know, gb news is the people's channel, so we wanted to know what the great british public thinks about joe biden's decision to quit the presidential race and what could happen next if it's a right decision. >> it's been a great president, but he's too old. it's got to go and really excited that the chance could be first female black mp, mp not mp president. >> yeah yeah. >> yeah yeah. >> kamala harris, what do you think about her? >> i don't know huge amount about her, >> but, hopefully she'll come in a bit more prominence now. >> she'll get a chance. >> she'll get a chance. >> and if someone can, someone's got to beat trump. that was the problem. >> i think it's the right thing to do personally. why? he didn't seem like he was really with it. i'll be honest . yeah. i'll be honest. yeah. >> so he's endorsed kamala harris. do you know much about her? what do you think of her? >> i don't know much about kamala harris to be honest. i don't really follow too much about the us election. i just see a lot of soundbites and news

clips. >> i think it's a shame, really. i think he's probably a force for good, but maybe. >> is he a force for good, though , though, >> i don't know, really. i just i just trust him. but maybe it means the democrats have got a better chance of getting in, which is a good thing, i suppose. >> and what about kamala harris? >> and what about kamala harris? >> he's endorsed kamala harris. do you know much about her? >> i don't know much about her. >> i don't know much about her. >> but be good to have a female president. >> well, have loads more on the dramatic events in the united states throughout the show, of course. and around about 4:30, we'll hear live from kamala harris in her first major address since this big announcement. and there's plenty of coverage on our website, gbnews.com. you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country . now, still plenty of country. now, still plenty of time to grab your chance to win £30,000 and the great british giveaway as our biggest cash prize of the year. and it's so, so tax free. now, what would you do with all of that extra dough? well, here's how you could win the lot. >> don't miss your chance to win our super summer giveaway with your chance to win £30,000 cash!

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testifying at a hearing into the security lapses surrounding the assassination attempt on donald trump . trump. >> increased well before the campaign, and has been steadily increasing as threats evolve . increasing as threats evolve. the security plan included a full assessment of the butler farm show gun show grounds to identify security vulnerabilities and craft a security plan for the protectee attendees and the public. immediately following the assassination attempt, i directed the activation of my crisis centre. i assembled my executive team to begin surging more protective resources to the former president and to ensure the wellness of our people post—incident all while securing an active crime scene. i immediately ordered a re—evaluation of the republican national convention security plan, and i increased the security posture in the national capital region for all permanent protectees and sites. at the same time, i initiated a mission assurance investigation within our agency . i have instructed my our agency. i have instructed my team that all necessary

resources will be dedicated to investigating these matters. we will not rest until we have explored every option and we will leave no stone unturned. but i want to be clear, i am not waiting for these investigations to be completed prior to making changes over the past two weeks. we successfully led the planning and execution of the 75th nato summit and the republican national convention. over the next few months, we will implement security plans for the democratic national convention, the united nations general assembly, and have already begun planning and coordinating the 2025 inauguration. it is now more important than ever for the men and women of the secret service to remain resilient and to focus on what is necessary to carry out our critical mission . carry out our critical mission. our agency needs to be adequately resourced in order to serve our current mission requirements and anticipate future requirements. the secret service currently protects 36 individuals on a daily basis, as well as world leaders who visit the united states like israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who arrived in

washington , dc today. the coming washington, dc today. the coming years will bring an unprecedented heavy protection tempo. i have no doubt that the processes that i have implemented during my tenure as director, in addition to my nearly 30 years of experience in this agency, have positioned the secret service to be stronger. our mission is not political. it is literally a matter of life and death and the tragic events on july 13th remind us of that. ihave on july 13th remind us of that. i have full confidence in the men and women of the secret service. they are worthy of our support and executing our protective mission . i will now protective mission. i will now answer any questions that the committee may have. >> thank you very much. director cheadle will now begin our five minutes of questions, and i will begin just for the record, the secret service has an annual budget of around $3.1 billion, and i believe around 8000 employees. >> is that correct? yes, sir. obviously, there were many security failures on the day of the attempted assassination and

leading up to that day. let's start with the building that the shooter used to shoot president trump from at any point saturday. did the secret service have an agent on top of that roof ? roof? >> sir, i'm sure as you can imagine, that we are just nine days out from this incident and there's still an ongoing investigation . and so i want to investigation. and so i want to make sure that any information that we are providing to you is factual. >> you can't. okay. why did the secret service not can you answer why the secret service didn't place a single agent on the roof? >> we are still looking into the advanced process and the decisions that were made. >> okay, okay, let's . wasn't >> okay, okay, let's. wasn't that building within the perimeter that should be secured? do we agree with that? >> the building was outside of the perimeter on the day of the visit . but again, that is one of visit. but again, that is one of the things that during the investigation, we want to take a look at and determine whether or not other decisions should have been made. >> one of the things that you said, i believe in an interview,

that there wasn't an agent on the roof because it was a sloped roof. is that is that normal? and do you fear that that immediately creates an opportunity for future would be assassins to look for a slanted roof? i mean, is this is a huge question that every american has. why wasn't a secret service agent on the roof? and there have been reports that agents were supposed to be on the roof, but it was hot that day and they didn't want to be on the roof. can you answer any of those questions, director? >> so i appreciate you asking me that question. chairman. i should have been more clear in my answer when i spoke about where we place personnel in that interview . what i can tell you interview. what i can tell you is that there was a plan in place to provide overwatch, and we are still looking into responsibilities. and who was going to provide overwatch. but the secret service in general, not speaking specifically to this incident, when we are providing overwatch, whether that be through counter snipers or other technology, prefer to have sterile rooftops. >> did the secret service use

any drones for surveillance that day ? day? >> so again, i'm not going to get into specifics of that day in itself. but there are times dunng in itself. but there are times during a security plan that the secret service does deploy an asset like a. >> there were reports that the shooter used a drone just a few hours before the rally start time. is that accurate ? time. is that accurate? >> i have heard those same reports and again, i'm waiting for the final report. >> do you know if you can't answer the question , that's your answer the question, that's your answer. but can you answer this? do you know? do you know? i'm not asking yes or no? but do you know if the shooter used a drone before the shooting? >> that information has been passed to us from the fbi. >> how many secret service agents were assigned to president trump on the day of the rally? >> again, i'm not going to get into the specifics of the numbers of personnel that we had there, but we feel that there was a sufficient number of

agents assigned. >> there are reports that several agents assigned to the rally on july 13th were temporary agents, agents not normally assigned to president trump. is that accurate ? trump. is that accurate? >> what i can tell you is that the agents that were assigned to former president trump , our former president trump, our secret service agents that provide close protection to him, and that was what was actual on that day. >> how many temporary agents were there that day? >> quite frequently. sure during campaign events, the secret service utilises agents from hsi or the department of homeland security. >> you don't know how many. >> you don't know how many. >> you don't know how many. >> you can't answer our plan have the investigators reconstructed the shooter's precise movements over the past days, weeks, and months. >> so again, we need we need to have confidence that if the fbi is leading this investigation, that they're leading a credible investigation because there's some of us sitting up here today that don't have a lot of confidence in the fbi. so i will

repeat the question. have the investigators reconstructed the shooter's precise movements over the past days, weeks and months? >> i understand your question, chairman, and i share your concerns about wanting to make sure that we have factual information. the fbi is conducting a criminal investigation. the secret service is conducting an internal investigation. there are a number of oig investigations, and there is the external investigation that the president last question for me before july 13th had the trump detail requested additional resources . what i can tell you resources. what i can tell you is that for the event on july 13th, the details that were requested the assets that were requested the assets that were requested for that day were given. >> okay, my time has expired . >> okay, my time has expired. chair now recognises ranking member raskin for five minutes. >> thank you , mr chairman, it's >> thank you, mr chairman, it's been reported that before former president trump got up on the stage at around 6 pm. on saturday, july 13th, that the local police had identified an

even photographed a man who was acting suspiciously. and this man, who turned out to be the gunman, had been flagged as a potential threat. is that accurate? >> what i can say is that the individual was identified as suspicious, so he was known to be suspicious before former president trump took the stage . president trump took the stage. thatis president trump took the stage. that is the information i have received. >> why was he allowed to take the stage with a suspicious person having been identified in the crowd? >> so i appreciate the question and i'd like to make two points. if the detail had been passed, information that there was a threat, the detail would never have brought the former president out onto stage. that is what we do and that is who we are. we are charged with protecting all of our protectees. >> so you distinguish between someone who is suspicious and someone who is suspicious and someone who's threatening, is that right? >> there are a number of times at protective events where suspicious people are

identified, and those individuals have to be investigated and determined. what is it that identifies that person as suspicious? >> so did you deny a request for additional resources that had been made by the trump campaign? >> there were no assets denied for that event in butler on the 13th. >> i see, so you're saying there were requests made for additional assistance for other specific events rather than for the campaign as a whole? >> is that right? >> is that right? >> i'm sorry, i'm not understand. >> well, you seem to say that there were not additional resources requested for that event. and forgive me for being unfamiliar with this . is it unfamiliar with this. is it requested event by event , unfamiliar with this. is it requested event by event, or is it requested just in general for the campaign ? the campaign? >> so if i can explain the advanced process when the when an event or a venue is identified by, in this case campaign staff, then the campaign staff, then the campaign staff, then the

campaign staff works together with secret service agents who go out and conduct an advance. generally that is a five day time period where those discussions are had about what the perimeter is going to look like, what the size of the event is, what the venue is, and then from there there is a request made to mitigate potential risk and threat. and i'm saying that on that day, the requests that were pushed forward were granted. >> so the secret service did not know that the gunman actually had a weapon before president trump was allowed to get up on the stage. >> to the best of our knowledge and the facts that we have at this point, that is correct, >> so can you answer this question, which i think is on the mind of most americans thinking about this, how can a 20 year old with his father's ar 15 assault weapon climb to on a roof with a direct 150 yard line of sight to the speaker's podium without the secret service or local police stopping him? >> so again , sir, i will say we

>> so again, sir, i will say we are nine days out from this event and i would like to know those answers as well , which is those answers as well, which is why we are going through these investigations to be able to determine that fully. >> okay , it's been reported that >> okay, it's been reported that the shooter was not carrying a driver's license or any form of identification, they had no idea who he was, but then he was quickly identified, i think within 30 minutes, by using the serial number on the ar 15, under a tracing system that is now controversial, some people say we should get rid of it. some people want to keep it. but is that right that the serial number was the key information which led to the identification of the shooter? >> that is my understanding, sir. yes. >> okay , if an american citizen >> okay, if an american citizen were just to stop you and say , were just to stop you and say, director cheadle, we support your work to the tune of billions of dollars and thousands and thousands of

employees. what went wrong? what would you say? >> again, knowing that we're nine days out, i would say, as i have said from the very outset, i accept responsibility for this tragedy. we are going to look into how this happened and we are going to take corrective action to ensure that it never happens again . happens again. >> well, i appreciate that. and ihope >> well, i appreciate that. and i hope you will act with vigour and focus and intensity. and it seems you understand the gravity and solemnity of this to the american people. millions and millions of americans don't feel safe with all the ar 15 out there. we thought at least the president of the united states or a former president of united states would be safe. but now that's not even clear. mister chairman, i yield back to you, gentleman . gentleman. >> years back, chair now recognises the chairman of the house judiciary committee, mr jordan from ohio. thank you, mr chairman. director, were you guessing or lie—in the day after president trump is shot? secret service spokesman anthony guglielmi said, quote , the guglielmi said, quote, the assertion that a member of the former president's security team

requested additional security resources that the us secret service or the department of homeland security rebuffed , is homeland security rebuffed, is absolutely false. the next day, secretary mayorkas said that is an unequivocally false assertion. we had not received any request for additional security measures that were rebuffed, but five days later, the washington post said this top officials repeatedly rejected requests from donald trump's security detail. for more personnel. the next day, the new york times said this. mr guglielmi acknowledged that the secret service had turned down some requests for additional federal security assets for mr trump's detail. so which is it because both statements can't be true? were you guessing or lying when you said you didn't turn down requests from president trump's detail? >> neither, sir. and i appreciate the question. >> well, what's what were you doing? because those statements don't don't jive. >> so what i can tell you is that for the event in butler ,

that for the event in butler, there were no requests that were denied as far as requests. >> well, maybe they got tired of asking . maybe you turned them asking. maybe you turned them down so darn much. they said not worth asking. how many times did you turn them down ahead of that? >> i think that it is important to distinguish between what some people may view as a denial of an asset or a request. well as mr guglielmi, your spokesperson , mr guglielmi, your spokesperson, he said he acknowledged the secret service had turned down some requests. >> i'm asking how many a denial of a request does not equal a vulnerability. well, tell me what it is. >> there are a number of ways that threats and risks can be mitigated, mitigated with a number of different assets, whether that be through personnel, whether that be through technology or other. well, tell the committee which it was. >> they asked for additional help in some form or another. you told them no. how many times did you tell them no. and what did you tell them no. and what did you tell them no to? >> again, i cannot speak to

specific incidents, but i can tell you in general terms, the secret service is judicious with their resources based on what is some request mean. >> how many times some indicate requests is plural. so more than once they asked for additional help and you turned them down. what did they ask for? and how many times did you turn them down? pretty basic questions. >> so again, without having all of the details in front of me, sir, what i can tell you is that there are times you didn't get briefed on how many times you turned down the trump detail when they asked for additional help. >> i'm sorry you didn't get briefed on that before you came to this hearing, knowing you were going to get asked that question. >> what i can tell you is that in generic terms, when people when details make a request, there are times that there are alternate ways to cover off on that threat or that risk. >> but that's not what he said. he said they were denied certain requests. some requests i this is your spokesperson, not me talking. this is the secret service talking and what a change from absolutely false.

unequivocally false to. oh, by the way, there were some times where we didn't give them what they wanted. that's a huge change in five days. and the fact that you can't answer how many times you did that, that's pretty darn frustrating, not just for me, but for the country. >> i hear your frustration. let me ask you this. >> were any of those requests denied to president trump's detail after you knew about the iranian threat? >> what i can tell you . again, >> what i can tell you. again, i don't know the specifics, is that there are times when we can fill a request. it doesn't necessarily have to be with a secret service asset or resource. we can fill that request with locally available assets. >> you spoke to anyone at the white house since july 13th? >> yes i have. >> who did you talk to? >> who did you talk to? >> i have briefed the president and the vice president. >> talk to the first lady. >> talk to the first lady. >> no, i have not talk to the white house staff. >> anyone in the white house communications? >> no, i have not. >> have you talked to the counter sniper who took the shot that took out the bad guy ? yes, that took out the bad guy? yes, i have, and can you tell us

about that conversation ? about that conversation? >> i would not want to reveal conversations that i've had with my employees, but that's exactly the kind of information the american people want to know. >> american people who pay your salary. >> i understand this is an ongoing investigation. >> who's all doing the investigating at secret service? i know the inspector general, but is there also an internal investigation in addition to the inspector general, we are conducting a mission assurance investigation internally. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> you know what looks like, director? looks like you won't answer some pretty basic questions. it looks like you got a 9% raise and you cut corners. when it came to protecting one of the most important individuals, most well known individuals, most well known individuals on the planet, a former president, likely the guy who's going to be the next president. looks like you guys were cutting corners. that's what it looks like to me. is that true? >> i am here today because i want to answer questions, but i also want to be cautious. >> you might want to, but you haven't answered. i don't think you've answered one question from the chairman. the ranking member or me. we've got a lot of other people asking. we'll see if your if your record improves. but right now you haven't answered, i don't think any questions i yield back. gentleman yields back. the chair now recognises miss norton from

washington dc. >> thank you mister chairman, in the summer of 1963, as a law student, i travelled to the south to work in the civil rights movement. when i arrived in jackson, mississippi, i was met by a civil rights activist who showed me around town and tried to convince me to work in jackson that summer. >> i recall talking with him and his wife about the raw atmosphere in jackson later that day, he took me to the bus station for my trip to my assignment. that night, he was assassinated outside his home. his name was medgar evers. i condemn the political violence. it is a threat to democracy. i want to discuss one of the roots of political violence guns. for years , republicans, including years, republicans, including a member of this committee, have introduced legislation and amendments to repeal or block the district of columbia gun

violence protection laws, including its bans on assault weapons and large capacity magazines. the shooter at the trump rally used the mass shooter's gun of choice and assault weapon, specifically an ar 15 style rifle and presumably a large capacity magazine, which is defined in dc as a magazine that can hold more than ten bullets under current dc. law, dc does not recognise concealed carry permits issued by other jurisdictions, but it does issue concealed carry permits to both residents and non—residents . residents and non—residents. however, d.c. imposes a number of requirements on concealed carry applicants, including suitability such as not having exhibited a propensity for

violence or instability. moreover d.c. residents were where the restricts where the guns can be carried, such as a political demonstration near the white house and naval observatory or near people under secret service protection , secret service protection, provided the permit holder has been given notice this week, the house is expected expected to consider the fiscal year 2025 financial services and general government appropriations bill. this republican drafted bill would allow an individual with a permit to carry a concealed handgun issued by a state or territory, to carry a concealed handgunin territory, to carry a concealed handgun in dc. regardless of that jurisdiction's permit

requirements. that jurisdiction's permit requirements . a republican has requirements. a republican has filed an amendment to that provision to allow such an individual to carry a magazine of any size with that handgun . of any size with that handgun. in short, the pending bill and amendment would allow any person with a carry permit issued by another jurisdiction to carry a concealed handgun with a magazine of any size in any location in the district of columbia . the secret service is columbia. the secret service is responsible for protecting a large number of people and facilities in dc. director cheadle would secret service protectees in dc be safer or less safe if people who have exhibited a propensity for violence or instability could carry a concealed, concealed handgunsin carry a concealed, concealed

handguns in dc. >> i think being a secret service agent and an officer or a law enforcement officer in any state is difficult. they are required to make decisions and snap judgements in the blink of an eye, and i think that the officers and the agents that work here in the dc area do a great job of monitoring the pubuc great job of monitoring the public and reacting to threats as appropriate when they arise . as appropriate when they arise. >> would secret service protectees in dc be safer or less safe? if people in dc could carry concealed handguns with large capacity magazines ? large capacity magazines? >> i think, ma'am, that we work in parameters where we travel around north america and the rules on open carry and concealed carry are different from state to state. and that is part of what the secret service

takes into account when we develop a security plan . develop a security plan. obviously, anyone that comes in to one of our protective sites , to one of our protective sites, we would establish magnetometer support , metal detectors that support, metal detectors that personnel would have to process through eliminating that potential . potential. >> would secret service protectees in dc be safer or less safe? if more people could carry handguns, in dc , i think carry handguns, in dc, i think again, as i stated, ma'am , we again, as i stated, ma'am, we want to make sure that we provide a safe environment for all of our protectees and whatever measures we would need to put in place for a secure site. >> we would do. >> we would do. >> so i yield back gentlelady's time has expired. chair now recognises the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mr turner from ohio. director cheadle, your opening statement indicates that the secret service constructed a security plan for the site in pennsylvania. i'm assuming that security plan would also include the security footprint for the site , but it also would be based site, but it also would be based upon a threat assessment for the risk threats associated with

donald trump. and the crowd in attendance would it not include attendance would it not include a threat assessment? >> yes, it would . >> yes, it would. >> yes, it would. >> so that threat assessment, as we know, basically would have started with this, a generalised threat against donald trump because he is a presidential candidate. then it would have gone to he's a former president and he gets a security coverage just as bush, clinton, carter, obama do. and then you also have the heightened political environment, even for those, it's clear that the security footprint that the threat assessment was insufficient, which permitted that a 20 year old to actually enter with a weapon and shoot donald trump . weapon and shoot donald trump. but i want to ask you about two other aspects of the threat assessment. it is known and pubuc assessment. it is known and public that iran is a threat risk for donald trump. they're a threat risk for john bolton, former secretary of state pompeo and donald trump, because they have indicated they want to assassinate them as a result of retaliation for the killing of soleimani. that is both for iran, a generalised threat. they're targeting these

individuals, but also, most recently, a specific threat to donald trump himself. now, i want to enter into the record by, you see, a department of justice public affairs release, a cnn article , a, an article a cnn article, a, an article from fox news and an article from fox news and an article from cbs, all of which acknowledge, without objection, so ordered that this threat exists for donald trump from iran and that there are specific threats, most recently, that have been acknowledged. director cheadle, have you read the intelligence of the generalised threat to donald trump by iran as a result of their desire to retaliate for the killing of salmonella? excuse me? some soleimani i have, have you read or been briefed about the intelligence of the specific recent threat to donald trump from iran? >> yes, i have , director wray, >> yes, i have, director wray, when we were getting our briefing indicated that he thought the threat assessment

should have included this threat from iran . from iran. >> is it your testimony today that the threat assessment, since you've read this intelligence , was sufficient to intelligence, was sufficient to protect him from this threat from iran ? from iran? >> my testimony today is that the information that we had at the information that we had at the time was known that was it sufficient. >> director cheadle? was it sufficient for the iranian threat that you said you have read the intelligence briefings for that information was passed to? well, i'm not asking the bureaucratic issue of who did it get passed around to. director cheadle , was it sufficient for cheadle, was it sufficient for the specific and generalised threat to donald trump's life from iran ? from iran? >> yes, i do believe it was . >> yes, i do believe it was. >> director cheadle is an iranian assassin more capable than a 20 year old, sir, i think we've acknowledged that there was gaps and a failure that day when i raised this issue with director wray , he was incensed.

director wray, he was incensed. he was shocked that the threat assessment of iran did not seem to be, as we and i discussed, baked in to your security footprint and your threat assessment. and he went on to say that the generalised threat that he has told the whole country that we are under from a terrorist, a potential terrorist threat. he has said we're under the highest threat level since 9/11, that the lights are flashing red. and he has specifically indicated that people have crossed the southern border as a result of the biden administration's policy, and that there are in our country today terrorists and individuals who are affiliated with terrorist groups and organisations. that would be a heightened threat. environment director cheetah, would it not? yes. in his public statements, he has said he is making these statements because he wants people to take them into consideration in threat assessments, specifically . now, assessments, specifically. now, that would be a threat not just to donald trump, but it would also be a threat to the crowd. there wouldn't it? yes. our isis

terrorists and al—qaeda terrorists and al—qaeda terrorists and al—qaeda terrorists and international groups and terrorists more capable than a 20 year old in pulling off their mass shooting or an assassination of donald trump . trump. >> sure. again, there was clearly a breakdown and a failure that day. >> have you read the intelligence of the terrorists that are currently in the united states , that director wray states, that director wray speaks, and those individuals that are here that are affiliated with terrorist groups and organisations that are in the process? as director wray said of representing a significant threat of a terrorist attack occurring in the united states. >> i have read reports that apply >> i have read reports that apply specifically to the secret service's mission director, cheadle , because donald trump is cheadle, because donald trump is alive and thank god he is. >> you look incompetent. if donald trump had been killed, you would have looked culpable. there is no aspect of this that indicates that there has been any protection to donald trump. the threat was was identified before he took the stage , and before he took the stage, and the shooter was only killed after donald trump himself was

killed. not only should you resign if you refuse to do so, president biden needs to fire you because his life, donald trump's life, and all the other people which you protect are at risk because you have no concept of the aspect that the security footprint needs to be correlated to the threat. i yield back. chair now recognised mr lynch from massachusetts. >> thank you, mr chairman. director cheadle, there were multiple security failures at the former president's rally in in butler, pennsylvania. first of all, there was a failure to isolate the podium from exposure to direct fire. do we know who who made that decision to allow that rooftop to remain as an unprotected area? do we know who came up with that security plan that that omitted that? >> sir, i don't have a specific

person to identify. okay. well that's what i'm looking for. >> so let's let's move on, there's also a breakdown in security in failure to confront the shooter, over an hour before the shooter, over an hour before the former president began his remarks, when the shooter was identified as a person of interest. what particularly allowed agents or law enforcement to identify him as a person of interest? >> so i appreciate the question. and again, i will say that we are nine days out and there are multitude of interviews that are still taking place. so did he have a rangefinder? >> there were some reports that that the individual had a rangefinder that would that would certainly raise my suspicion , did he have a suspicion, did he have a rangefinder ? rangefinder? >> yes, he did, but may i explain that at a number of our sites , especially when you're at sites, especially when you're at outdoor venues, a rangefinder is not a prohibited item. it is sometimes an item that is

brought in by individuals if you're going to be. did anybody anybody confront him on that? >> anybody ask him questions? what are you doing with the rangefinder? anybody confront him on on his presence where he was in proximity to the president . president. >> so again, to my knowledge, i believe that that was the process that was taking place, was to locate the individual. >> did they did they confront him? did they go up to him? did they talk to him? >> i do not have those details at this time. >> those are important details. it was also a failure to communicate between law enforcement, to act quickly upon information provided by either local law enforcement or rally attendees that the suspect was positioned on the roof. there were minutes of delay. before, any, any meaningful action was taken, even though he was several hundred feet from the podium. and this was obviously minutes before the shooting. let

me ask you, there was considerable delay in removing the president, from the podium after the shooting began. he was shot in the air. it was still over a minute before he was removed from the stage. meanwhile this shooter had multiple clips , several clips. multiple clips, several clips. he got off eight shots, and he had the capacity and the ability. if he was not neutralised to basically mow down that whole secret service detachment as well as the president. what from your own investigation, caused that that delay under the circumstances ? delay under the circumstances? >> what i can tell you is that when the agents identified that the shooting was taking place in under three seconds, they threw themselves on top . themselves on top. >> i understand that there was heroism there. no question about it. no question about it. but

protocol would indicate. and these are, you know , these are, these are, you know, these are, these are, you know, these are, the opinions of various former secret service agents, people who have done this work in the past , that over a minute of past, that over a minute of exposure on that podium with, with a, a shooter, with a high capacity weapon who had already wounded the president and could have got off. we don't know how many more rounds, and yet the president remained exposed even though he was joined in that exposure by the secret service in their heroic acts. it just, it i don't know if there's a good explanation for that. >> our personnel created a body bunker on top of the president. i get that shielding him. yeah. >> this was this was an ar 15 style weapon that would have made pretty quick work if he was determined. and able to do so.

this is not the first investigation that we've had of the secret service . during my the secret service. during my time here on this committee and our last one, we had, our previous investigation determined that the secret service was experienced a staffing crisis that poses perhaps the greatest threat to the agency. and that's a quote. is that staffing crisis still in place? is that still something that you deal with on a daily basis? >> as of today, the secret service has just over 8000 employees. we continue to hire knowing that we need to ensure that we keep pace with what would be the full complement of . would be the full complement of. >> and gentlemen, time's expired. but please answer the question. yeah i'm sorry, what would be the full complement that you're looking for. >> you've got 8000. and how many, how many would be a full complement for the service. so we are still striving towards a number of 9500 employees approximately in order to be able to meet future and emerging needs. >> okay. >> okay. >> thank you, mr chairman, for your courtesy i yield back.

>> chair recognises doctor fox from north carolina. thank you, mr chairman. director cheadle, what grade would you give the secret service's performance in butler, pennsylvania, on july 13? >> as i've stated, ma'am , this >> as i've stated, ma'am, this was clearly a failure. i would grade the agents and officers who selflessly threw themselves in front of the president and neutralised the threat. and a i think that we need to examine the events that led up to , and the events that led up to, and pnor the events that led up to, and prior to that day . prior to that day. >> you stated in 2021 that the secret service has a zero fail mission. >> it's clear that the events of july 13th show a cascade of failures that caused. corey comparator his life nearly cost former president his life and injured david dutch and james copenhaver. when an agency fails spectacularly at its mission, those responsible must be held

accountable and the problems must be fixed so they cannot happen again . why should the happen again. why should the american people or the officials? you're responsible for protecting have confidence in your ability to lead the secret service after such a spectacular failure? >> i appreciate the question, and i am committed to finding answers so that we can make the agency stronger after this. >> you said on july 15th that the buck stops with me. how were you taking accountability for the secret service's failures dunng the secret service's failures during the july 13th assassination attempt on president trump? >> i have taken accountability and i will continue to take accountability. i am responsible for leading the agency, and i am responsible for finding the answers to how this event occurred and making sure that it doesn't happen again. >> so i would like to explore how you got the job as director of the united states secret service. is it typical for the

director of the secret service to be recommended for the role at the behest of a president's family and senior staff, perhaps at the request of joe biden or anthony bernal ? anthony bernal? >> i got the job as a director of the secret service because i spent 27 years in an agency with a mission that i absolutely love. i started my career in detroit. i worked my way up through investigations and protection, were you was there competition for the position ? competition for the position? you would have to ask those who were involved in the interview process , but you think you are process, but you think you are the best person in the country to head the secret service. i think that i am the best person to lead the secret service at this time . this time. >> the secret service receives billions in funding each year, as has been explained by my colleagues here in fact, the increase you've had, an increase increase you've had, an increase in real terms of 55, as you're

no doubt aware, staffing levels for those assigned to protect the president, former presidents and other senior officials has decreased by about 350 between 2014 and today. clearly, a lack of financial resources is not to blame for the staffing shortage in 2022. the secret service on nearly half its workforce leave in one year during the same yean in one year during the same year, it was ranked dead last among law enforcement agencies in the best places to work in the federal government. can you explain why your agency was so poorly rated, and why so many staff left in just one year? so with all due respect, i dispute the statistic of half of the employees leaving in 2022. >> i think that that has been inaccurate data that's been reported out there. but what i can tell you is, as i have returned as the director of the agency , we have had an increase

agency, we have had an increase in hiring and staffing and an increase in resources, and we are committed to continue to hire so that we can be staffed appropriately to meet the dynamic mission that we have. >> well , you dynamic mission that we have. >> well, you may want to dispute it, but it's out there. my understanding, given the high profile, high profile failures and rotten culture at the secret service during your nearly two year tenure, why should the american people have any confidence in your ability to lead the secret service to perform its zero fail mission to protect our senior leaders ? protect our senior leaders? >> the secret service has an incredible culture. our men and women play service over self. they come in every day willing to risk their lives for our protective mission and they work. investigations that thwart people who would do harm to children. child exploiters. we have an incredible mission and our culture is we will get the

job done no matter what. >> well, those on the front lines certainly have a great culture, and they were willing to risk their lives for president trump. but i'm not sure the leadership at the agency has the right kind of culture. i yield back. mr chairman. >> chair. now recognise mr connolly from virginia . thank connolly from virginia. thank you, mr chairman . well i hope you, mr chairman. well i hope the american people do appreciate the incredible daily risks secret service agents take on our behalf. risks secret service agents take on our behalf . you mentioned on our behalf. you mentioned there were 36 regular clients . there were 36 regular clients. you've got that you protect constantly . but i was constantly. but i was participating in the nato summit just two weeks ago. we had 32 heads of government and heads of state, plus visiting heads of state, plus visiting heads of state and heads of government. >> presumably you provided protection for all of them. >> that is correct. >> that is correct. >> just just saying, help us understand. >> however, i will stipulate

that the there's an ongoing investigation. >> you don't want to go into too much detail on that until you've been able to ascertain all the facts and analyse what they mean. >> you can understand, however, the anxiety we and the american pubuc the anxiety we and the american public have about how could this happen and how can we ensure it can't recur . now there are some can't recur. now there are some things my friends , on one things my friends, on one particular side of the aisle, don't really want to talk about like ar 15 and access to them by a 20 year old or anybody for that matter , presumably, that matter, presumably, director cheadle, the ubiquity of weapons, guns in america, especially assault weapons or semiautomatic weapons, that's helped your job and the mission of your agencies. right it's made it less complicated. isn't that true ? that true? >> i'm sorry. i'm not understanding your question .

understanding your question. real simple. >> more guns, especially dangerous ones, have made your job protecting people easier. is that not right ? that not right? >> i think at, from every director. >> cheetah , this is simple >> cheetah, this is simple english. more guns are. do they make your job more complicated or less complicated? in protecting these 36 clients and visiting heads of state and heads of government that come to washington? >> i think the secret service needs to take into account. >> i didn't ask that that they're in. i'm sorry. i asked a simple question which deserves a simple question which deserves a simple answer. the ubiquity of guns, dangerous weapons in america like ar 15 seconds. has that made your job? that is to say, the mission of the secret service easier or more difficult? >> i think the threat environment for protecting our, secret service protectees is always difficult. and that's dynamic and it's always evolving. >> we stipulate it's always

difficult. i again, this is a simple one. does the ubiquity of guns make your job easier or more difficult today ? more difficult today? >> i understand the second amendment rights of individuals. >> i didn't ask that question. i'm not questioning the second amendment. i'm asking a simple analysis. director cheadle and i can tell you you're not making my job easier in terms of assessing your qualification for continuing on as director , continuing on as director, please answer the question . please answer the question. you're the head of the secret service. >> you're speaking on behalf of 8000 members who put their lives on the line. >> we just had a failure. by your own admission to guns, make your own admission to guns, make yourjob easier your own admission to guns, make your job easier or harder your own admission to guns, make yourjob easier or harder. your job easier or harder. >> i think the job of the secret service is difficult on every day, and we need to make sure that we are mitigating all threats, whether that be that isn't my question. >> that is not my question. and now i think you're evading the

answer, which is not a hard one. >> i am sorry that you feel that way, sir. >> how else could i feel? director cheadle, when you're clearly avoiding a direct answer to a very simple, declarative question , we almost lost question, we almost lost a presidential candidate the other day . a 20 year old had access to day. a 20 year old had access to his father's ar 15 and got on top of a roof within 500 yards or feet of the podium. and i'm asking you, did the availability of that ar 15, which is replicated all across america, make your job harder or easier, and you're not willing to answer that question? and you think and you wonder why we might have a lack of confidence in your continued ability to direct this agency . agency. >> i understand your question. and that's the environment. well, if you understand my question, why not answer it? because it's the environment that the secret service works in every day . every day. >> that doesn't tell me anything .

>> that doesn't tell me anything. that's the that's the environment we work in. i had an i had an attack on my office a year ago. i know a little bit about violence to he came to kill me when he couldn't. he beat one of my staffers eight times with a baseball bat on the head. we live with the threat of violence, but a simple answer from the director of the secret service would be helpful . and service would be helpful. and i'm sorry you've chosen to evade it. i yield back, chair. now, mr grossman from wisconsin . grossman from wisconsin. >> wow. an absolutely astonishing cross—examination for this past 35 minutes or so of kimberly cheatle, the director of the us secret service, about those events that had attempted assassination of donald trump in pennsylvania on july the 13th. absolutely incredible, the standout line to me was because donald trump is alive, you look incompetent. if

he died, you'd be culpable. joe biden needs to fire you so much to talk about there. and let's do that now with our reporter mark white. mark, that was brutal. that was forensic. it was merciless. so many questions were asked and it didn't feel mark as though very many answers were given. give us some details . were given. give us some details. >> i was being evasive in the answers that she was giving, that she was resorting to the classic because there's an investigation ongoing. we can't really go into the detail of that. and that clearly was frustrating very deeply. those lawmakers who were eviscerating the head of the secret service there in the questioning question after question, as you

said, that key point that she's culpable because donald trump survived but would have been culpable if he had died. other issues raised about if you cannot protect fully, vip like the former president from a 20 year old, then how on earth are you going to be able to fully protect all of these important figures from threats such as isis, threats such as iran, following intelligence that there was a plot that was being hatched by the government in tehran to go after leading politicians in the us, some real concern. and of course, the secret service was more than aware of that. the lawmakers talking about the evidence that those security risks terrorists had come over the southern border into the united states,

and some real concern that they have that going forward. the secret service is just not going to be in a position to deal with these threats if it can't deal with the threat posed by a 20 year old with an ar 15. and then, of course, the frustration, martin, was that all of the pertinent questions about what happened that day in terms of the advanced , pre terms of the advanced, pre preparedness that the secret service should have done the scoping out of the area, the deployment of assets to various locations, such as the rooftop where the young man had been, she wouldn't answer a question such as whether the secret service at any point had put one of their own assets up on that roof. even to look at it. so a real feeling that she's just not answering the questions and using the excuse of the ongoing investigations in order to do

that. that's what i think bringing out real anger amongst the republican lawmakers in particular. >> mark, there's one question and answer in particular. absolutely. just took my breath away. i couldn't believe it. the question was , why was the question was, why was the president allowed to take the stage when you knew a suspicious man was on the roof? and her answer was , we didn't know he answer was, we didn't know he was dangerous . there was an was dangerous. there was an audible gasp in that hearing when that came out. mark, there's an astonishing thing for anybody to say, but the person in charge of the directions, the person in charge of national security, saying, well, we just took the chance . it's an took the chance. it's an incredible thing to admit. >> mark white i think in the fullness of time, we will get to find out whether that suspicious person report or reports that came from members of the public that then were assessed by the police, identified a person who was described as being suspicious, actually fell into

the category of someone suspicious , also posing a threat . suspicious, also posing a threat. the thing to add about the secret service and these, events that they try to protect individuals at, particularly outside, is that there are often thousands of individuals and there will from time to time, be people in the crowd, people that the attention of the security services at that venue are drawn to as initially being suspicious. they're quickly checked out and they're deemed not to be a threat. so there is big questions to be asked obviously about in knowing there was a suspicious person in that suspicious person being confirmed by the police. what was done in a prompt manner to assess whether that suspicious person then posed a threat, and knowing that there was a suspicious person that was clearly giving some alarm to the authorities and members of the

pubuc authorities and members of the public who were alerting the authorities to that suspicious person . should president trump person. should president trump have ever been brought onto the stage until they were clear in their own minds that they had found , identified, and then found, identified, and then ruled out that person as being a threat? these are the big questions that need to be answered. the questions that she has gone nowhere near in answering today , mark wyatt, it answering today, mark wyatt, it was absolutely staggering. >> it was truly astonishing that evisceration. thank you very much for joining evisceration. thank you very much forjoining us on the show, much for joining us on the show, mark wyatt. and let's continue this conversation now with us, political journalist laurie laird. laurie welcome to the show. did you watch that cross—examination there? did you see what just happened ? sorry to see what just happened? sorry to use the pun, but it felt like a career assassination. there's so many questions were asked. she simply refused or wasn't able to give questions. in fact , one of give questions. in fact, one of the cross examiners basically

said, she said, i'm here today because i want to answer questions. and he said, i don't think you've answered a single question here today. laurie laird, astonishing scenes. what's your take on it? >> absolutely astonishing. >> absolutely astonishing. >> and i do believe, martin, that she could she didn't answer the questions because she may not have had the answers. look, i think something that we can all agree on, no matter where you are on the political spectrum, is this was a spectacular fail. absolutely spectacular fail. absolutely spectacular fail. absolutely spectacular fail. i mean, one of the things that struck me is this should be a forum to try and get some answers. and it to me, it felt like a little bit of sport. >> the republicans are angry . >> the republicans are angry. democrats are angry. everyone should be angry because of this fail. but it did feel a little bit personal to me rather than trying to get to the bottom of what happened , so many things what happened, so many things went wrong and it did feel like a bit of a character assassination, you know, for one of the republicans to say, you should be fired . well, that's

should be fired. well, that's a statement of the bleeding obvious. the woman should be fired. she has not led well, and it feels a little bit to me like like a bit of sport. it actually made me miss, select committees in the uk where there actually is some exchange of views and you get something out of it. that said, kimberly cheadle's responses, you know where she did give a response were outrageous. she gave herself an a minus, a minus for that, for her performance that day. she said she thinks she's the best person to be leading the secret service. that that that is, you know, obviously laughable . but know, obviously laughable. but we do need answers here, and i'm not sure we're going to get them in this forum. >> laurie. she started the session by saying on july the 13th, we failed. she then went on towards the end of the session, which is still ongoing . session, which is still ongoing. ihave session, which is still ongoing. i have taken accountability since the beginning and will continue to do so. do you think inevitably , laurie led inevitably, laurie led inexorably, this will have to end in her resignation ?

end in her resignation? >> oh god, it's has to and it really should end in a sacking. you know, there is such a series of things that went horribly wrong. she has not discharged her duties. and while she said she wanted to take responsibility and there were fails, she gave herself an a minus , which is, you know, minus, which is, you know, absolutely absurd. but she does have to go. but before that , or have to go. but before that, or even during that process, we need to know exactly what happened. and i think one of the things that needs to be looked at is, are there enough people because there are so many people that now qualify for secret service protection, you know, do we need to fund more bodies? we need to look at what happens with, you know, one of the questions that was being asked is just before you and i came on is just before you and i came on is the challenges that are presented by the fact that almost, you know , everyone in almost, you know, everyone in america has a gun. so how do you police that? does this mean, outdoor rallies perhaps are not

feasible at this time? that needs to be looked at? so many questions and it would be nice to get to the bottom of this rather than to have the personal. and that's what this heanng personal. and that's what this hearing feels like. >> laurie laird meanwhile, around about ten minutes time, kamala harris is due to address the nation for the first time since she looks like being the favourite as the nominee for the democrat party . looking ahead to democrat party. looking ahead to that, what kind of exchange do you think we'll get? she's come out fighting, calling donald trump a felon, calling him too old. it looks like that, unity politics message lasted about a week . week. >> yeah, yeah. well, and look, the last time you and i spoke, we didn't give it a week, so. so it's outlasted our predictions. but my god , with the with this but my god, with the with this heanng but my god, with the with this hearing on capitol hill with kamala harris coming out for the first time as the presumptive nominee, you can't get a sandwich, martin. the things are moving. so very quickly in the us, but this will be a very interesting outing for kamala

harris because typically this has not been her strong suit. she does not do well campaigning. she does not do well on the stump, witness her very , very poor presidential very, very poor presidential campaign. she didn't even make it to the primaries. in fact, i think a lot of people forget that she actually did try to run for president in 2019, didn't even get to 2020 for that. her her ratings never went above sort of three 4% popularity ratings. so we will be watching very, very closely to see how she does her her poll ratings have gone up a little bit over the past month or so, maybe just because she's become more visible. we didn't see her for three years, but she will have to nail this and she's going to have to nail every public appearance that goes beyond this historically. again, we haven't seen that much of her. she's tended to do a lot better, in my opinion, in a sit down things, one on one interviews, she comes across as much more approachable, accessible in

those on the stump. she's wooden. she looks uncomfortable, so we'll see how that goes . i'm so we'll see how that goes. i'm glad you brought up that. she's come out fighting, calling donald trump a felon. these are the two things that the democrats are really pushing hard on. one is donald trump's character that really hasn't landed very well. the other is reproductive rights. and that's one that kamala harris has seen to, has seemed has handled well in that voters like her the way she is talking about that most voters are pro—abortion about two thirds of the country. she's really hammering that home. and that's these are the two real strong points that she feels she has . let's see how she goes with has. let's see how she goes with this. but getting, trying to go personally after donald trump hasn't worked over the past eight years. not clear to me why it would work now. >> okay, all eyes on america in about ten minutes time. lorillard. we could talk all night, but we've simply ran out of time. thanks for joining us. as ever. see you soon. i'll have lots more on the incredible events. the united states

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welcome back. it's 427. i'm martin daubney on gb news now , here's daubney on gb news now, here's a big question for you. was the european union to blame for last week's devastating global tech outage ? well, that's what outage? well, that's what microsoft is claiming. at any

rate , the company claims a 2009 rate, the company claims a 2009 agreement with the european commission restricted it from implementing security changes that could have prevented the incident, which led, of course, to widespread disruptions in travel and health care around the world. well, joining me now to discuss this is the privacy and security expert jamal ahmed. jamal so microsoft pointing the finger firmly at brussels, what's your take? >> it's really interesting that microsoft are blaming eu for this. >> essentially what happened was many years ago , microsoft was many years ago, microsoft was about to get investigated for anti—competition, and they did a deal with the eu saying that they would allow other developers api access to the kernel level, which means that anyone has the same level of access to microsoft as microsoft does itself . and what does itself. and what microsoft's argument here is, is because the eu had forced us, or because the eu had forced us, or because we agreed with the eu,

that we would allow other developers to access at the kernel level, we couldn't block this from being rolled out, and that's what has affected those 8.5 million microsoft computers worldwide. now the reason microsoft are unhappy about this is because when they look at google and when they look at apple, they haven't been forced or they haven't agreed to give such, access to anyone else. and so microsoft aren't happy about that. >> and they're saying if we had not had to sign this agreement to give this level of access to people, this would never have been rolled out. >> and this global outage, the biggest global outage that we've seen in the world's history, would never have taken place. >> and jamal, that begs the question . i mean, it has all the question. i mean, it has all the hallmarks of a cyber attack that vladimir putin would have been proud of. and isn't the point. this bureaucrats in brussels shouldn't be telling expert companies with so much at stake what to do. apple said no to brussels , as you said. google brussels, as you said. google said no to brussels and they said no to brussels and they said no to brussels and they said no precisely because they

claimed correctly as it looks like that. giving third parties access to that depth, that real nucleus of the code can cause disasters just like this. that would say to me , qed, brussels would say to me, qed, brussels meddling was counterproductive . meddling was counterproductive. >> there's a couple of ways of looking at this. so number one is it was actually microsoft that agreed to this to begin with to stop that, whereas companies like apple have said, no, what we're actually going to do is we're going to focus on the security ourselves because we don't want to give anyone else access to this kernel layer. and then, on the other hand, you've got vladimir putin, i'm sure i'm sure is having a right laugh because this is not a cyber attack. >> in fact, crowdstrike, the company behind this push and update, are there to help businesses to keep their attackers. >> the bad guys , putin's >> the bad guys, putin's russians army doing these cyber attacks out. and so they rolled this update out and it had a flaw in the update. and because of that, all of the screens went blue, which means people couldn't see it. people couldn't access anything on those screens, they couldn't access

patient records, they couldn't access flight information. and that's why we had such a big outage. now it is not really fair to say brussels is responsible for that. yes. the agreement has allowed for this to happen, but microsoft needs to happen, but microsoft needs to take some responsibility and say instead of agreeing to that, what could they have done instead? and now that we know this has happened, how do we stop this from happening in future ? future? >> well, maybe maybe we can start jamal ahmed with stopping bureaucrats poking their noses in into areas of expertise where the experts are best serving our interests . superb. thank you, interests. superb. thank you, jamal ahmed, thank you for joining us on the show. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00. we choose to hear live from us vice president kamala harris any moment now. what will she have to say about joe biden quitting the presidential race? and will she blast out at donald trump? but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst.

>> the top stories this hour. >> the top stories this hour. >> the top stories this hour. >> the secret service chief in the united states has told us congress that the attempt to kill donald trump was the most significant operational failure for decades. >> kimberly cheadle has been testifying before this us congress in the united states of course, if you're watching on television, you can see our live pictures coming to us from congress. now, all about the attempted assassination of donald trump last week. she has been questioned about security lapses that allowed the attempted assassination of the former president, saying she took full responsibility. meanwhile, donations to the us democratic party have surged after president joe biden announced he's standing down from the us presidential race. the 81 year old has endorsed kamala harris as democrat candidate . it comes after he candidate. it comes after he faced increasing calls to step aside since a faltering debate performance against republican donald trump last month. and the news comes just four months

before americans go to the polls , before americans go to the polls, throwing the race for the white house into uncertainty. and an 11 year old girl has been orphaned following a crash which killed four members of her family, as well as two motorcyclists in west yorkshire. shane roller and his partner shannon morgan, and their daughters lily and ruby, died on the a61 when their car was in a collision with a motorbike . a collision with a motorbike. a gofundme page has been set up for the little girl, who was not in the car, and that has already reached more than £30,000. the scene of the crash is still closed off. superintendent alan travis, from west yorkshire police, said it's an absolutely tragic accident which has resulted in the loss of six lives and the prime minister's set to cut plans for reliance on foreign workers by improving skills training in england. skills england was a manifesto pledge from labour and is designed to fix the fragmented and broken training system, says labourin and broken training system, says labour in a speech today. sir keir argued that a new approach is needed to reduce the need for

immigration in key sectors. the conservatives have warned , conservatives have warned, though those plans could actually cut the number of apprenticeships on offer. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an houn middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now remember shortly we're going to hear live from the us vice president kamala harris on gb news. stay tuned. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news

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gb news. now a reminder that we're set to hear from us vice president kamala harris very shortly. it'll be her first speech since joe biden announced he was quitting the presidential race yesterday. you can see live pictures there from the white house. the vice president. do there shortly. in the meantime, i'm joined by the us political analyst, eric hamm. eric, welcome to the show. so as we await the first public engagement from kamala harris since joe biden quit yesterday , since joe biden quit yesterday, before that, eric, can we just have a quick look back to an astonishing cross—examination earlier on, about an hour ago, it began , kimberly cheatle, the it began, kimberly cheatle, the director of us secret service, a bruising , eviscerating session. bruising, eviscerating session. she was asked so many questions and the people in the room certainly felt she didn't really give many answers. and the culmination of that, which struck me as incredible, one of the one of the cross examiners said, because donald trump is alive today, you look incompetent . if he died,

alive today, you look incompetent. if he died, you'd be culpable . joe biden incompetent. if he died, you'd be culpable .joe biden needs incompetent. if he died, you'd be culpable . joe biden needs to be culpable. joe biden needs to fire you. what's your take? >> it was a stunning moment for the head of the secret service , the head of the secret service, because, of course, we all knew that she was going to be on the hot seat. and of course, we all knew that there were a number of probing questions that she would need to answer as a result of what took place. look, the united states hasn't seen an attempt on the life of a president or former president in over 40 years. and so these are questions that she needed to answer. and it was stunning how incapable she seemed to be able to not only answer the questions that were put before her, but also didn't really provide any confidence that she could continue to not only protect the key principles, but given where the nation is right now and the fluidity of our political situation , where is the secret situation, where is the secret service and can it do the job? is it up to the job? and based

on what we saw today, i think there's still more questions about that . about that. >> okay, eric, let's quickly move on. we're all still awaiting kamala harris to appear outside the white house. what do you anticipate that we'll hear from this speech? we've seen some early glimpses already today, she's coming out saying, come on. her people are saying kamala harris stands up to fraudsters and criminals. donald trump is a convicted felon. it seems. eric ham the unity politics lasted precisely one week. >> if they lasted that long. and quite frankly, even then, i thought that was a myth. but look, kamala harris is a former successful prosecutor. she served as the attorney general for the state of california and for the state of california and for the state of california and for the viewers, the state of california has the largest attorney general's office outside of the federal attorney general's office. so it's the second biggest attorney general's office in the country, only behind that of the us department of justice. and so she actually led that department

in the state of california. and what she is going to do now, as someone who is seeing who who will be the replacement at the top of the ticket, she is going top of the ticket, she is going to lean into her prosecutorial skills as she runs for president against donald trump . and what against donald trump. and what we are being told is this is they are going to position this kamala harris people as the prosecutor versus the felon. and thatis prosecutor versus the felon. and that is how they're going to actually run this race. and that is what we can expect to see now through november. >> well, eric, as we await kamala harris to appear, it's worth noting joe biden has endorsed a hillary clinton. bill clinton has other candidates standing aside, but some big names yet to rubberstamp kamala harris mainly, of course , barack harris mainly, of course, barack obama, believed to be the kingmaker in all of this, is today ostensibly, kamala harris's pitch. do we think that we might see some movement from the obama team after today's speech, or will this roll on throughout the days and weeks

ahead ? ahead? >>i ahead? >> i think it's going to if the if the if the obamas are going to make an endorsement, they need to do it sooner rather than later. and that's that also goes for former speaker nancy pelosi, as well as the senate majority leader, chuck schumer , because leader, chuck schumer, because they were seen as instrumental in leading this push to remove president biden from the top of the ticket. and so, right now, their legacies are not looking very good today . and because very good today. and because this is still seen as a party in disarray, a party that technically does not have anyone at the top of what needs to happenis at the top of what needs to happen is they need to actually decide, are they going to get behind her, especially considering many of those high profile names who many thought could actually step in have already gotten behind kamala harris's candidacy as the as the vice president, as the presidential nominee for the democratic party. >> eric, i think we're just about to start at the white house. but quickly ahead of that, do you think this will impact donald trump's chances of

winning in november? he says he's going to beat her, that kamala harris is going to be easier to beat than joe biden. what's the polling looking like ? what's the polling looking like? >> i think very quickly democrats gave up their biggest asset, and that is the power of incumbency. and so i do believe that makes it easier for donald trump to actually win in november. polling data actually shows that. right now, kamala harris is actually more competitive with donald trump than joe biden. but of course, that could just be a momentary bump. we'll still have to see how this plays out in the weeks ahead, and we still have a bit more time before kamala harris appears. >> eric. so no, in fact, no . >> eric. so no, in fact, no. she's just a merger now. we have to leave it there. eric, let's go to the white house. kamala harris addressing the nation here she is. >> good morning. good morning. >> good morning. good morning. >> i'm linda taylor, senior vice president for championships at the ncaa. you've been asked to

sit, please . i'd like to thank sit, please. i'd like to thank president biden and vice president biden and vice president harris for organising this event today. this is an incredible backdrop to celebrate incredible backdrop to celebrate incredible achievement . i want incredible achievement. i want to start by congratulating all of you on your successful season. there are more than 500 student athletes in more than 1000 ncaa institutions across the country. many of those teams and student athletes started the season with the goal of achieving a national championship. you all have done that. you're the best in your sport. you've crossed that finish line. you will forever be ncaa champions. congratulations . ncaa champions. congratulations. for the student athletes here, i hope that you take a moment to truly appreciate what you've achieved, whether it's your first ncaa championship or one of many, what you've done is remarkable. in addition to your

success on the field, many of you are using your platform that that success is brought to do really incredible things to engage your communities, to become entrepreneurs , to become entrepreneurs, to represent your families and your friends, to serve in leadership roles across the ncaa, at your conference and on your campus. what you do and how you do it is an inspiration, and we thank you for the coaches here today. i hope you also take a moment to truly appreciate the season. i know for many of you it is natural. it's in your nature to turn the page, look to the next season, start planning for the next championship. but for all of you, i hope that you again take a moment to truly appreciate what you've accomplished . it is incredible accomplished. it is incredible and you also will forever be known as national championship coaches. congratulations . having coaches. congratulations. having worked on a college campus for over 21 years, i understand that it takes teamwork to make this

particular dream work. it takes teamwork to make this particular dream work . and so particular dream work. and so i want to make sure we shout out those athletic trainers, medical personnel, strength and conditioning coaches. yep let's go. right academic advisors, media relations folks. all of you that make this possible for student athletes to achieve their dreams. thank you for what you do. thank you for pouring into them and how you do it. taking care of them and loving them and supporting them in every way. thank you. again, thank you for allowing us to celebrate you today, for being here, making the trip. we appreciate it and we appreciate being part of your special day. and now it's my distinct honour to introduce the vice president of the united states, kamala harris . of the united states, kamala harris. thank you . harris. thank you. >> greetings, everyone. greetings. and, linda, i want to thank you for all you do to support these extraordinary student athletes. and it is good to be here with so many leaders, including, of course, members of

congress, members of our administration and our extraordinary athletes, our president joe biden wanted to be here today. >> he is feeling much better and recovering fast, and he looks forward to getting back on the road. and i want to just say a few words about our president joe biden's legacy of accomplishment over the past three years. is unmatched in modern history. in one term, he has already . yes, you may clap . has already. yes, you may clap. in one term, he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who have served two terms in office and i first came to know president biden through his son, beau. we worked together as attorneys general in our states, and back then beau would often tell me stories about his dad. he would talk about his dad. he would talk about the kind of father and the kind of man that joe biden is. the qualities that beau revered

in his father are the same qualities that i have seen every day in our president. his honesty, his integrity, his commitment to his faith and his family, his big heart and his love. deep love of our country. and i am firsthand witness that every day our president, joe biden , fights for the american biden, fights for the american people. and we are deeply, deeply grateful for his service to our nation . and so with that, to our nation. and so with that, on behalf of our president and doctor biden, i am honoured to welcome all of you to the white house to celebrate the achievements of these great athletes. every one of them is a national champion, a national champion in america. tens of millions of people play a sport

as a child , and the best of the as a child, and the best of the best grow up to become national champions here. today we have seven undefeated teams, 11 repeat champions and 21st time winners . talking about you guys . winners. talking about you guys. some of you have represented our nafion some of you have represented our nation on the international stage in world cups and world championships . and later this championships. and later this month, six of you will represent our nation at the 2024 olympics in paris . as members of team in paris. as members of team usa, you are ambassadors for our nafion usa, you are ambassadors for our nation and with pride, we will cheer you on and we look forward to congratulating you when you bnng to congratulating you when you bring home the gold . so to all bring home the gold. so to all

of our athletes, i know it was not to easy make it to this moment. each of you has faced challenges and obstacles and you have endured. you have fought back and fought through. by doing so , you demonstrated that doing so, you demonstrated that true greatness requires more than skill. it requires grit and determination . you all know what determination. you all know what it means to commit and to persevere . and you know what it persevere. and you know what it means to count on team—mates dunng means to count on team—mates during the course of a long season, sports teams become a family. you rely on each other. you develop relationships that will last a lifetime , and you will last a lifetime, and you make the people around you better in every way. and when you play, you inspire people across our nation. you remind

all of us what can be achieved with hard work and ambition . and with hard work and ambition. and of course, none of you made it here alone. today you are surrounded by the people who stood by you every step of this journey. the folks who support you on and off the field, your friends, your family members, your coaches, your trainers and teachers who for years have cheered you on. so today, again, let us give them a round of applause . and in conclusion, i applause. and in conclusion, i say to our athletes , say to our athletes, congratulations again on all you have accomplished and good luck on all that is to come. wherever you all go from here, you will always and know this. you will always and know this. you will always be champions and we will always be champions and we will always be champions and we will always be so proud of you. and so now it is my honour to welcome to the stage jordan dudley, who plays on the florida

state university women's soccer team and our u—20 women's national team. please welcome jordan . you're going to it. jordan. you're going to it. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. we're just going to cut back to that later in the show. that was kamala harris there, her first address on the steps of the white house introducing some athletes. let's have a quick look back over an extraordinary afternoon in us politics. just starting with a quick summary there of what kamala harris said at the start. she kept referring to joe biden as our president. of course, he is still the president of the usa until november. the fifth. this is about who's going to be the democrat nominee. he hasn't stood down or resigned, she said. joe biden wanted to be here today. he is recovering well. of course he has covid 19, i want to celebrate joe biden. his honesty, his integrity, his

commitment to faith and family, and his big heart and love of our country. at that point, a few people started to clap and she said, yes, you can clap at that point. she then moved on to the athletes in the audience, and we'll cut back to her when she starts to make an address, which many believe will be her pitch for the job, because of course, she hasn't yet been. this coronation hasn't happened. joe.joe this coronation hasn't happened. joe. joe joe biden has endorsed her. the clintons have endorsed other candidates, said they will stand aside, but it's not a fait accompli . she isn't yet the accompli. she isn't yet the nomination on the number one ticket for the democrat party, and barack obama, who was believed to be absolutely instrumental in finally convincing joe biden it was best for him, best for the democrat party, for best america, perhaps best for the world that joe biden stood down. barack obama hasn't yet endorsed kamala harris. let's see if that comes over the next few days and earlier on in the show, very quickly . kimberly cheadle, of

quickly. kimberly cheadle, of course, who was the director of the us secret service on july the us secret service on july the 13th, that astonishing assassination attempt on donald trump's life was brutally cross—examined in washington, dc on capitol hill, and the questions were just relentless. one was this why wasn't a secret service agent on the roof? of course, to counter the sniper, there was a plan in place to provide overwatch, but we can't go into the operational details today. she was heckled. she was booed. it was a brutal, brutal session. we'll have full analysis on that after this , analysis on that after this, including we'll go back to the white house and pick up on kamala harris's speech on the steps of the white house expected to be her pitch for the vice president nomination for the democrat party. loads to come up, make sure you don't go away. now, let's have your weather. and it's alex burke. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

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otherwise across many parts of england and wales, a largely dry start to the day, just a few showers to watch out for. looking dry across northern ireland. first thing a bit cloudier down the eastern side of scotland and here there could be some showery outbreaks first thing, but towards more central western areas it should get off to a largely bright and sunny start tomorrow morning as we go through the rest of the day, there will be a scattering of showers around. some of them could be a little bit on the heavy side, but not looking as intense or as thundery as those that we've seen through today. and most places. probably going to avoid the showers and actually stay largely dry with a good deal of bright or sunny weather developing. and with that sunshine and temperatures, a little bit higher than today, it is going to feel a bit warmer for many of us as well. a few showers continuing as we go through tomorrow evening, but generally they're going to ease out and so that will take us through a dry night into wednesday, and there's more dry weather to come as we go through wednesday itself for many. again, some bright sunny skies

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>>a >> a very, very good afternoon to you. it's 5 pm. and welcome to you. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster, all across the uk on today's show. absolutely extraordinary scenes in the us. the house of representatives oversight committee is currently grilling the secret service director, kimberly cheatle, over security lapses that allowed the assassination attempt on donald trump. you can see her on your screens live now. these are live pictures from washington , dc. pictures from washington, dc. we'll have the full analysis of that throughout the rest of this hour. that throughout the rest of this hour . and that throughout the rest of this hour. and meanwhile, vice president kamala harris has

spoken publicly just a day after joe biden dropped out of the presidential race and endorsed her with a full details on that, too . and a complete change of too. and a complete change of gear will catch up with all of the day's royal news as the second in line to the throne, prince george celebrates his 11th birthday with that simply wonderful family photograph. and that's all coming up between now and 6:00. well, to the show. an absolutely astonishing afternoon of politics in america. the cross examination of kimberly cheadle was eviscerating. it was brutal. at times it felt merciless , question after merciless, question after question after question about her competence, about the bungles during that assassination attempt of donald trump on july the 13th, she said at the start on july, the 13th, we failed. the questioning went on and on and on. it was simply

astonishing. she seemed to have next to no answers to basic questions. in fact, that was pointed out to her repeatedly. and when she was asked specifics, she said, i can't go into details . we don't yet have into details. we don't yet have them. we'll have the full analysis on that. it was simply incredible. send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay but now it's your headlines. it's polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well as you've been hearing, the head of the us secret service has admitted to a house committee today that the attempt to assassinate donald trump was the most significant operational failure for decades. if you're watching on television that congressional committee meeting continuing in washington today, we can see senator biggs there is on the stand asking further questions in that line of inquiry. well, the head of

the secret service, kimberly cheatle, was on the stand earlier. she's been testifying in an effort to explain herself following that attempt on donald trump's life, she was being questioned about the security lapses that allowed a lone rifleman to successfully take aim at the former president , aim at the former president, saying she takes full responsibility for what went wrong. >> the assassination attempt of former president donald trump on july 13th is the most significant operational failure of the secret service in decades, and i am keeping him and his family in my thoughts. the secret service's solemn mission is to protect our nation's leaders on july 13th, we failed kimberly cheadle speaking there. >> meanwhile, financial donations to the us democratic party have surged after president biden's announcement that he's stepping down from the us presidential race in an onune us presidential race in an online statement issued yesterday, joe biden joe biden rather endorsed his vp kamala harris, as his favourite candidate for president. but

similar endorsements were significantly missing from former president obama and prominent republican nancy pelosi. that comes after he faced increasing calls to step down despite his poor debate performance against the republican donald trump last month. here though, the prime minister, sir keir starmer, has praised joe biden , a man who praised joe biden, a man who dunng praised joe biden, a man who during five decades of service never lost touch with the concerns of working people and always put his country first. >> a true friend of the labour movement, his presidency will leave a legacy that extends far beyond america to freedom and security. on this continent . security. on this continent. >> now in use here at home, an 11 year old girl has been left orphaned following a crash which killed four members of her family, as well as a motorcyclist and their pillion passenger. it all happened in west yorkshire. shane roller and his partner shannon morgan and

their little girls lily and ruby , their little girls lily and ruby, died on the a 61 near wakefield when their ford focus car was in collision with that motorbike. a fundraiser has now been set up for 11 year old poppy, who wasn't in the car when it crashed. that fundraising page had reached £30,000 by lunchtime. the scene of the crash has remained closed today. police investigations are ongoing . superintendent alan ongoing. superintendent alan travis, from west yorkshire police, said it's an absolutely tragic incident which has resulted in the deaths of six lives. now, the home secretary said today she was telling the commons that the rwanda scheme has cost the british taxpayer £700 million. yvette cooper described the migrant deterrent scheme as the most shocking waste of taxpayer money she'd ever seen. she said she'd take urgent action to start clearing the asylum backlog in one simple change that she said would save the taxpayer an estimated £7

billion over the next ten years, it's after nearly 1500 migrants arrived in the uk after a busy week of crossings in the english channel last week , the prime channel last week, the prime minister set out plans to cut reliance on foreign workers by improving skills training . in improving skills training. in england, it's called skills england. it was a manifesto pledge from labour and is designed to fix the fragmented and broken training systems, to according labour. well, in a speech today, the prime minister argued that a new approach is needed to reduce the need for immigration in certain industrial sectors. but the conservatives have warned that plan to redirect cash could in fact cut the number of apprenticeships on offer . and as apprenticeships on offer. and as you've been hearing, the prince and princess of wales have shared a new picture of prince charles to mark his 11th birthday. if you're watching on television, take a look at this classy shot in black and white, taken by his mother and posted on kensington palace's social media accounts, it shows the

future king smiling, wearing a white shirt and a dark blazer in a shot taken from slightly above. happy birthday george. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst . i'm back in half an middlehurst. i'm back in half an houn middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, polly. now there's only one place to start, and that's the fallout from a hugely dramatic day in us politics. us vice president kamala harris has spoken publicly for the first time since she received joe biden's endorsement to be the democrats nominee for the presidential election in november, paying tribute to what she called the president's unmatched legacy of accomplishment . meanwhile, the accomplishment. meanwhile, the director of the us secret service , kimberly cheatle, has service, kimberly cheatle, has faced a brutal cross—examination

by a house committee following the attempted assassination of donald trump. she was accused of cutting corners on the former president's security and was urged to resign . well, to chew urged to resign. well, to chew over that, i'm now joined by the former deputy assistant to donald trump, sebastian gorka. it's always an absolute pleasure to have your company. can we start, seb? can we start with the cross examination of kimberly cheatle earlier on today?i kimberly cheatle earlier on today? i don't think seb can quite hear us yet. we'll try and get a link with him and go back to him in a moment. i wanted to go over some of the detail of that cross examination. it was absolutely savage, at times, utterly savage, she said at the top of that, of course, she's the director of secret services, responsible for the security detail on july the 13th in pennsylvania at that trump rally and on, she started by saying, on july the 13th, we failed. she then went on to was she was asked why wasn't a secret

service agent on the roof? and of course, there was the sniper on the roof who took the shot at donald trump. and by millimetres, failed to take donald trump's life . he said donald trump's life. he said there was a plan in place to provide overwatch, but we can't go into operational detail. she repeatedly kept saying we can't go into details. the crowd became very unrestful at that. they were heckling. they were booing. they weren't happy by the lack of detail . given a key the lack of detail. given a key question, an astonishing question. and answer was this. she was asked, why was the president allowed to take to the stage when you knew a suspicious man was on the roof and she answered, we didn't know he was dangerous. there was an audible gasp in the room. at this point, she was repeatedly asked if any, access for security details and the extra requests were refused . the extra requests were refused. again, she kept saying, they the requests were honoured, but she

failed to go into any detail. she then said, i'm here today because i want questions. i want to have questions answered. that was one of the. he said, i don't think even a single question here today , and one of the cross here today, and one of the cross examiners just brutally said the following donald trump is alive today, and you look incompetent or incompetent if he died, you'd be culpable on the spot . and she be culpable on the spot. and she said , well, my questioning, her said, well, my questioning, her eyes were wide. she just looked astonished about what was happening to her. it was quite a political attack. it was very personal. that was noticeable. but the fact of the matter is . but the fact of the matter is. >> were you there? >> were you there? >> so how many? and if and again, at that point, she didn't

have answers, have the agents recreated the shooter moments over the past days? have you traced his movements over the past months ? so basically, have past months? so basically, have you managed to ascertain where he came from, what he was doing ongoing again, getting grown since ? were these requests for since? were these requests for additional resources honoured? the requests were honoured, but she wouldn't again go into any detail flagged , she admitted. detail flagged, she admitted. she admitted that a man was flagged to her by police, by agents. but at that point nothing was done and. when you knew a suspicious man was on the roof and as i said , we didn't roof and as i said, we didn't know he was dangerous. we're not trying to establish contact with seb gorka. we'll have full analysis on that later. but now let's go to

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how you could win the lot. okay, that isn't happening. so let's try and quickly move on. now, last week, we brought you news of a shocking report that found that the number of migrants, the european union had more than doubled in just five years. and today it's emerged that there were more than 1 million asylum applicants in the european union last year alone. now, the figure was 631,000. in 2019. and although it fell over the next two years due to covid, of course it hit almost 1.05 million in 2023. now that's a rise, a shocking rise of 66. and i'm now joined by lee evans, who's the chairman of facts for eu dot org. lee, are you there? lee isn't there. right. we've got a few technical gremlins here. i'm going to talk you through some of this data until we can get lee evans up. so like i say last week we brought you

the report 1.265 million illegal immigrants to all of the 27 eu member states. when you add them up, that's just the illegal immigration. this is european commission data. that's released at the end of each year. lee evans crunched that data, and this shows the truly astonishing nature, the true size of illegal immigration to the european union. last week , lee evans and union. last week, lee evans and myself concluded if the european union cannot control its own borders, if they're so porous to illegal migrants, what chance they ever have of stopping that that mass of people inexorably moving towards the french coast? well, today's report is the numbers of asylum applicants, first time applicants. so fresh arrivals to the european union, lee evans, i believe is now with us to talk it through. lee, are you there ? lee evans is there. you there? lee evans is there. lee evans, the chairman of facts

for eu org. mercifully, we get you on. so the second report in two weeks. lee casting a harsh harsh light over the numbers piling into the european union. i went over the illegal migration figures a short while ago. today's report , published ago. today's report, published by yourself, is the number of first time asylum seekers talk through the shocking numbers and talkers lee evans, through the growth. >> yeah. well, it seems not to matter where you look in the migration statistics in the eu. >> and i'll come on to why that's important to, to your audience in a moment. but no matter where you look, the numbers are just shocking, >> so i assume you've mentioned the fact that, the numbers of illegal migrants into the eu in the last five years doubled, 1.25 million just in the last year alone. which is an extraordinary number of people

when it comes to asylum, which is what we looked at in our report today. and it's a great team effort that's been punching these numbers because the eu commission doesn't make it easy, but anyway, the numbers are , 3.5 but anyway, the numbers are, 3.5 million in 5 years. and those numbers show a 66% growth in in those five years, so you whether it's illegals that are avoiding the asylum system or whether it's people that are being forced to enter the asylum system, vast numbers are backing up, in europe. and of course, we all know you're showing a picture there at the moment of, a boat taking illegal migrants across to the uk . the more, across to the uk. the more, migrants there are in europe, the greater the pressure there will be on the southern borders of the united kingdom. and if

you look at the latest figures, we are we are looking at the worst set of figures, since this whole thing began in 2018. and i can give you one extra fact, martin, that you might you and your audience might find it interesting. everyone knows that numbers are increasing. what? people may not know is that on saturday, two days ago, we broke the 130,000 mark, 130,000 mark for these illegal migrants coming to the uk. since this problem began. and these are undocumented people, we don't know who they are. we know that the vast majority of them are male , but we have no idea of male, but we have no idea of their background, their history, even their names or nationalities, because they throw all of those overboard.

>> so one of the, if i, if i may interject, another key figure, another key figure that leaps out of your excellent report is those who are still in the system backed up , awaiting system backed up, awaiting processing. now, that's an additional 1.17 million. who are awaiting their claims. you add all of these numbers together, you've got the thick end of 5 million. lee evans and my next question to you is quite simple. if they're in the system in the european union, if they're being processed or they're trying to apply processed or they're trying to apply for asylum in the european union, why is that a problem for britain? i mean, if they're going to stay in the eu, isn't that, you know, that's where they want to be. that's fine. or am i being naive? are they still claiming asylum in the eu but then still making their way towards the french coast ? towards the french coast? >> that's that's it, the problem that we have is that the uk is a major draw for many of these migrants , if you ask any group

migrants, if you ask any group where they want to settle, there are two answers. generally, germany and the uk, and so we are one of the draws for for, these migrants, if they get denied , asylum, which, by the denied, asylum, which, by the way, most of them do and we're producing our final report, which will include , that which will include, that information of rejections and just how many of these are being deported. and i've had a sneak look at the numbers, and i can tell you, you're going to be shocked about that one two mountain. so it doesn't matter whether these people are forced to apply for asylum in in the eu or not, which is the subject of our report today. that doesn't matter, because they can still up sticks and head for the northern french coast, and the key thing is just the sheer volumes are such that when you look at keir starmer plans, he's

his latest plan. last week, as you know , was to effectively you know, was to effectively bypass the eu and give £84 million of taxpayers money to africa and the middle east in some hope that by doing that , some hope that by doing that, migrants wouldn't leave there. but where are they leaving? therefore they're leaving there for the eu . so it's the eu's for the eu. so it's the eu's responsibility to deal with that . responsibility to deal with that. not we shouldn't be paying for it , so they're coming to the not we shouldn't be paying for it, so they're coming to the eu and then a proportion of those are significant proportion and a growing proportion are coming to the uk. and the ones that are coming to the i need, i need to interject again, you make no valid points. >> all of this, by the way, is the european commission's own data. this is their own official data. this is their own official data. this is their own official data. this isn't cooked out of nowhere. this is the data that they published. this this data came out on friday and you've processed it over the weekend. this is just the truth. this is their own data. i want to ask you a simple question. you say

there that two countries stand out above all others as the magnetic draw germany and the united kingdom. what is it, lee, about those two countries? what do they have in common that makes them so attractive? and let's mainly focus on on the united kingdom. what is it about the uk that is so attractive to these asylum seekers and illegal immigrants? >> it is the fact that, frankly, we treat them better than pretty much any other country does, they come over, they get they've thrown their their iphones into the water. on the way over, they get a new iphone , they're paid , get a new iphone, they're paid, a cash amount every week, they get food, they get, lodging , and get food, they get, lodging, and they're not forced to work, and they're not forced to work, and they get put up in, in four star hotels. so what's to not like ? hotels. so what's to not like? >> and, lee, have you heard

anything? i know it's very early days. let's let's give credit where it's due. it's very early days into the labour government, into sir keir starmer's stewardship. prime ministership of the country. but have you heard anything yet from the labour party, which you think might deter people making this perilous journey, which might deter that magnetic pull to the united kingdom or actually has something else happened by scrapping rwanda, by getting rid of that deterrent, that offshore deterrent. do you think actually the united kingdom might be more appealing now than it was even a couple of weeks ago, >> i think it most certainly is more appealing now than it was, two weeks ago, was it 17 days? he's been in office now? something like that , and, almost something like that, and, almost his first act was to scrap rwanda. now up until that point, as you know, a lot of migrants were, in fact, travelling from the uk to the republic of ireland because they were worried about being deported to rwanda. and you've reported gb

news has reported the, the protests that are going on in ireland now about all these migrants and where they're going to be situated. so there was an immediate effect of what you might call a rwanda deterrent . might call a rwanda deterrent. sadly, it affected our neighbours in in the republic of ireland, but nevertheless it shows the power of these sorts of things. now that's scrapped and there are now no targets, the labour government refuses to put any figures on, on any potential reductions. all we've done, because we're non—partisan, we're not antilabour . all we've done is in antilabour. all we've done is in these set of reports, we've shown the extent of the problem , shown the extent of the problem, and you've kindly highlighted that, you know, doubling of the number of illegal migrants entering the eu in the last five years, 66% increase in asylum seekers in the eu in that time,

more than a million backed up in the system in the eu, waiting on decisions . and as we will show decisions. and as we will show in our in our final report on this, looking at how many are rejected and how many are deported, i'm afraid , martin, deported, i'm afraid, martin, like you as i do, i'm going to have even worse news for you. >> okay. well, i mean , again, >> okay. well, i mean, again, it's news that we have to share. no matter how unpleasant, because we have to keep highlighting this issue. otherwise, i fear it will never, ever change. lee evans, thanks for bearing with us. we've had a few issues there , but thanks for few issues there, but thanks for coming on the show as always, and let's get you on again for that final part of that report . that final part of that report. even though it may be grim reading, lee evans is the chairman of facts for eu.org. it's always a pleasure to have you on the show . thank it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you. there's still lots more to come between now 6:00. and there's a warning from economists that households could see yet another energy bill rise, this time going up by almost £200 a year. i thought our energy bills were going to go down with this green

new deal. apparently not. anyway, here's your headlines with polly middlehurst. >> at 530 on gb news, the headunes >> at 530 on gb news, the headlines this hour, the head of the us secret service has admitted to a house committee that the attempt to assassinate donald trump was the most significant operational failure for decades. kimberly cheatle has been questioned about the security lapses that allowed a lone rifleman to successfully take aim at donald trump, saying that she took full responsibility for what went wrong. meanwhile financial donations to the us democratic party have surged after president biden announced he's stepping down from the us presidential race in an online statement issued yesterday, joe biden endorsed his vp kamala harris, as his favourite for president. he comes after he faced increasing calls to step aside since his poor debate performance against republican donald trump last month. and

here at home, the home secretary has told the commons that the rwanda scheme cost the british taxpayer £700 million. yvette cooper described the migrant deterrent scheme as the most shocking waste of taxpayer money she'd ever seen. she said she'd take urgent action to start clearing the asylum backlog in one simple change that she said would save the taxpayer an estimated £7 billion over the next ten years. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour with more for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . rebecca sills financial report. rebecca sills.

cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> thank you. polly. now i've had hundreds of yorkies come in, and the number one thing that's really piqued your interest today has been that astonishing, brutal, eviscerating cross—examination of kimberly cheatle, who, of course , is the cheatle, who, of course, is the us secret service director. there's a cross—examination examination. beg your pardon? at capitol hill in washington, dc , capitol hill in washington, dc, lynn says this. i absolutely loved that thorough and brutal questioning i wish we had similar to down business attitudes like that here. when you compare the watered down performances we have at the covid inquiry or partygate and many other similar events, i totally loved it. they know to

how get things done in america. now it's all about totally loving it and knowing how to do it. here's michelle dewberry dewbs& co. of course six till seven. the queen, a prime time political debate jubes what's on your menu? hello, martin. >> well, everything that you would expect. >> i'll pick up on that, on that conversation that you've just been having there about that cross examining. >> also many people now saying that biden needs to stand down immediately. >> does he ? >> does he? >> does he? >> and more importantly, what does all this mean for the uk here? >> does it make a victory for trump more likely? and how would that play out with a labour government here? i want to look at the skills strategy that was announced today as well. and a really interesting story that saw. >> we all know that anti—social behaviour, martin, is an absolute blight on society, but what do you do about it ? what do you do about it? >> well, in grimsby, they're going to trial this new system where they're going to be blasting out the rules of the land over big mega speakers every 15 minutes. and i wonder, do we think this will actually have any impact? >> will it reduce anti—social behaviour? do you support it or not? >> it's a great idea, but most people probably have their

headphones on. michelle dewberry dewbs& co six till seven. always a pleasure. fantastic. see you later navalny. get in touch with me @gbnews. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay and i'll read out the best of your messages a later in the i'm martin daubney on gb

welcome back. your time is 538. i'm martin daubney on gb news now . last week, we on gb news now. last week, we covered the disorder in the lead suburb of harehills. police face significant violence , including significant violence, including attacks with bricks and missiles. while responding to a child protection matter. now, very shortly, i'll speak to a grooming gang survivor who is now working as a community journalist , now working as a community journalist, and she'd been doing some fantastic work in the wake of those riots . and here she is of those riots. and here she is speaking to a local in the aftermath in harehills . aftermath in harehills. >> if then people had been white engush >> if then people had been white english people that had been running it and were batons, they'd have been charging them.

>> there'd have been horses there that have got absolutely destroyed. you've seen what they do to, you know, english, engush do to, you know, english, english people, when they go down to london and protest peacefully, they all get kettled in. >> they all get pushed around abused. >> it's completely two tier policing. >> everything is two tier. >> everything is two tier. >> it matters what colour you are to how the police you that that simple as that . that simple as that. >> fantastic work and joining me now is that woman sammy woodhouse who's a reporter now at urban scoop. sammy, welcome to the show. it's an absolute pleasure to have you. a lot of people will know you best. perhaps for your astonishingly brave work in exposing the grooming gang scandal. your part in that prompting government reports, leading many, many people to justice. you've spoken out bravely in the past, and now you're doing it again , and you're doing it again, and you're doing it again, and you're with urban scoop and you are speaking to locals in the aftermath there in harehills , aftermath there in harehills, all those astonishing scenes we saw, those riots , the bus burned saw, those riots, the bus burned out. and what struck me about your video now, which has been viewed almost half a million times online, is a community

that feels neglected, a community that doesn't feel listened to, a community that feels misplaced, a community that feels second best within britain even though they are british and born and bred locally. sammy woodhouse tell me about the deep frustration of forgotten communities like harehills and what they said to you . you. >> hi martin. >> hi martin. >> so yeah, you know, people really frustrated . really frustrated. >> and this is something that hasn't just started in the last few days either. so i've been going around to talking people, which are the working class people. >> you know, you've had people such as politicians whose media that have absolutely just branded them under, you know, every horrific name under the sun as racist as far right. >> and they're not. so i started speaking to people at events going back to telford, which was held by tommy robinson. and you know, there's people that, as i say, the working class, they were survivors, family members, and they're just so frustrated of never having a voice and

feeling like second class citizens. and you know, they they don't feel listened to by media, by politicians. they have no leadership. and they've had enough. so now they're, you know, organising their own protests to get people to come along and to hear what they have to say . to say. >> and sammy, what struck me was , >> and sammy, what struck me was, was a deep, deep frustration , as was a deep, deep frustration, as you pointed out, and not only not being listened to, but being castigated. we're seeing similar scenes in dublin at the moment. we've seen similar scenes in merseyside, we've seen similar scenes all over the united kingdom, very tolerant communities who've been very open. and in fact, some of the people you spoke to in your video, these people, the guy in that video there, he's married to an immigrant, his kids are mixed race. this is not about being racist, but it's about sammy. they were telling you time and time again, this is about a lack of integration in those communities up there in yorkshire. >> yeah, definitely , and as you

>> yeah, definitely, and as you say, you know, this is something that's happening all over. and the moment you speak about immigration or grooming gangs or anything, you are just branded as far right and racist. and it's just wrong to want to talk about what's happening in our country to and keep children and women safe doesn't make you far right or racist. it means you're a decent human being that wants to live peacefully, safely . and to live peacefully, safely. and as we know that, you know, there are people coming over to our country. they've got no idea who they are. there's no birth certificates. they're coming from third world countries. they're going around , they're they're going around, they're raping and assaulting children and women. and this seems to be no consequences. and people just don't seem to want to care and put a stop to it. don't seem to want to care and put a stop to it . and, you know, put a stop to it. and, you know, we need we need some kind of action and people are coming together now, there's an upcoming event that i'll also be reporting on, again by tommy this saturday in london. i think there's going to be thousands that attend that. and, you know, people have had enough. and i think they've got a right to be frustrated and to be angry and

to want some action. >> now, sammy, you've obviously had a very traumatic early life and you've managed to like, turn that around into something astonishing. you've used your your personal experience. do you think that's what makes you so determined to sort of stick up? because for so often you for so long you were ignored. your voice was silenced. do you think that what's happened to you , that what's happened to you, that what's happened to you, that terrible time that's happened to you, is that giving you the resolve now to speak out and be a voice for communities that feel like they're also being ignored and forgotten ? being ignored and forgotten? >> yeah, definitely. because, you know, when i'm attending these protests, like, you know, these protests, like, you know, the one in leeds, i am one of them, you know, i am working class, i'm one of those. and when , when i've been going to when, when i've been going to the events, i think some people, you know that recognise me, they know my history , they know that know my history, they know that i've not come to, you know , with i've not come to, you know, with an agenda or to try and stitch, stitch him up. anyway and that's what they feel by mainstream media. you know, we clearly saw itv turn up to the event and

they was very quickly, you know, pushed away. you know, they wasn't welcome . and, so i think wasn't welcome. and, so i think or at least i'd like to hope that, you know, when i go along because i'm one of them. they can trust in that urban school will not, you know, kind of , as will not, you know, kind of, as i say, kind of stitch him up because that's exactly what they've had in edit the videos. and i made it very clear to them, you can say anything that you want. you know, this is your space, it's your platform . space, it's your platform. >> okay. sammy woodhouse, thank you so much forjoining us. and the best of luck to you. keep it up. great work. pleasure to have you company. thank you. now, one of labour's pod and flagship policies is the creation of great british energy. but last month rachel reeves said it would save families up to £300 a year off their energy bills by 2030. however there's bad news for households today because economists are warning that the energy price cap could go up by £194 later this year because of

the war between ukraine and russia. still affecting us. well, joining me now is the former ceo of energy uk, angela knight. angela, welcome to the show. we were promised that bills would get cheaper. great british energy, the green new deal british energy, the green new deal, renewables being the future. we were bracing ourselves for a lifetime ahead of cheaper energy bills. and yet here we go again. they're due to get another hike. what's causing it again this time? >> yes. >> yes. >> well, if you think that you're going to get cheaper energy bills for the future, well, it's in your dreams because you simply can't. >> and the reason that you can't is because of the huge investment that's taking place to turn us from a country that's been dependent on gas and oil to a country that is net zero, i.e, we don't, we reduce dramatically our carbon footprint and none of that comes without a large amount of money being spent on the grid, on nuclear backup , on

the grid, on nuclear backup, on more renewables and all that sits on your bill. now, what we're seeing today is some of that , but we're seeing today is some of that, but this particular number relates to the ongoing war in, between ukraine and russia, and it is targeted at the fact that ukraine holds very big reserves of gas for europe. and if there's an interruption in it being able to use those reserves which are held in storage to feed into the european pipeline, then that's going to cause a problem for continental europe. well, not necessarily cause it for us directly in respect of supply, because we've still got the north sea. but inevitably we'll be we are open to disruptions that take place, be it ukraine or indeed be it rather further afield, when tankers now have to take a longer route route round to get into the eu, however, just as last point, the price was always

going to go up this winter. the question was how much we're never going to go back down to where we are. and as i say, the costs of the energy programme at the accelerated speed, which labour are putting in place equals it's going to cost us more. >> okay. new government, same old problem.

welcome back. and thanks for your patience . now, kamala your patience. now, kamala harris gave a hugely anticipated speech today on the steps of the white house. but anticlimactic for those expecting a big announcement. actually, she paid tribute to our president, joe biden. far more interesting event politically was that

earlier, also in washington , dc, earlier, also in washington, dc, kimberly cheadle, the us secret service director, was eviscerated. absolutely evi scerated eviscerated. absolutely eviscerated by a succession of those cross cross—examining her. they asked her this question about the assassination attempt on donald trump on july the 13th. she said, on july the 13th, we failed. she said she was asked why wasn't a secret service agent on the roof and she didn't have an answer to that question. she was repeatedly asked for details. she didn't have any details on that case beyond those that were operational, and it ended with this because donald trump is alive. you look incompetent. if he died, you'd be culpable. joe biden needs to fire you . an biden needs to fire you. an astonishing day in politics. dewbs& co is up next. i'm back doing the gbn tonight , 7 to 8. doing the gbn tonight, 7 to 8. i'll see you then. but now it's your weather with alex burkill. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

>> hello again. i'm here with your latest gb news weather update coming to you from the met office looking ahead through much of this week it is going to be quite changeable . so some wet be quite changeable. so some wet weather at times, but also something a bit drier to come to. in fact, as we go through the end of today, it's going to turn a little bit drier for many of us because the system that has brought the earlier cloud and rain is clearing away. that being said , still quite a few being said, still quite a few showers across parts of scotland as we go through the end of the afternoon and into the evening, some heavy, possibly even thundery. but most of these will start to ease and clear away overnight, and then some pulses of rain pushing into parts of south—west england and wales, but otherwise some dry and at times clear weather to come. but despite the clear skies, temperatures not dropping a huge amount, another warm night for many of us. watch out for some heavy pulses of rain first thing tomorrow morning. initially across central southern parts of england, but they are going to drift their way eastwards, then clear away quite quickly on.

otherwise, across many parts of england and wales, a largely dry start to the day. just a few showers to watch out for . showers to watch out for. looking dry across northern ireland. first thing a bit cloudier down the eastern side of scotland and here there could be some showery outbreaks. first thing, but towards more central western areas it should get off to a largely bright and sunny start tomorrow morning. as we go through the rest of the day, there will be a scattering of showers around. some of them could be a little bit on the heavy side, but not looking as intense or as thundery as those that we've seen through today. and most places . probably that we've seen through today. and most places. probably going to avoid the showers and actually stay largely dry with a good deal of bright or sunny weather developing . and with weather developing. and with that, sunshine and temperatures a little bit higher than today, it is going to feel a bit warmer for many of us. as well. a few showers continuing as we go through tomorrow evening, but generally they're going to ease out and so that will take us through a dry night into wednesday. and there's more dry weather to come as we go through wednesday itself. for many . wednesday itself. for many. again, some bright sunny skies before some wet weather pushes its way in on thursday. heaviest

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calls now for her to step down should she. and speaking of stepping down, many people also saying that joe biden should as well. your thoughts on all of that? and our prime minister, sir keir starmer, has announced plans for skills in england now to be fixed and for it all to be run much better. is that really what we need? and a report out today says that all citizens should be

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