>> well . >> well. >> well. >> good afternoon . britain. it's >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:00 on tuesday. the 23rd of july. i'm tom harwood, and i'm emily carver. migration woes. james cleverly hits back at yvette cooper for claiming the tories spent £700 million on the now cancelled rwanda scheme. but how much did it cost.7 >> and prime minister keir starmer is facing a major labour rebellion after a growing number of his own mps pressure him to scrap the two child benefit cap. we're expecting a vote today. >> nigel farage has accused president joe biden's wife and son of elder abuse. he says biden should never have been in

the white house in the first place, and it would be absolutely potty for americans to for vote harris on the basis of being a woman . of being a woman. >> and you're going to want to stay with us this afternoon, because we are just about to reveal just how much some of the bbc's top earners are earning. who will be crowned the number one top earner at the bbc this year .7 year? >> absolutely. could it be another year of gary lineker or has someone else pipped him to the post? we'll be getting to that very shortly indeed. but before we do , emily, i happen to before we do, emily, i happen to know that the dates today is a relatively special date , isn't it? >> oh, it's a very special day. the 23rd of july, 23rd of july. every year. every year since 1992, it has been my birthday. >> well, i've got you a little cake. >> or are you just ran out and

got that, didn't you? >> i might i might have just run out and got it so we can have. do you know what? it's covering up the views there, there we go. happy birthday , i'm being told happy birthday, i'm being told i have to hold this still . it's have to hold this still. it's going to be quite hard. it's going to be quite hard. it's going to be quite hard for me to sort of. oh, no, you have to cut it. it looks like you have to cut the cake, doesn't it? >> there's only one portion, really, isn't it? i will cut it. yes. >> oh, there we go. make a wish. >> oh, there we go. make a wish. >> make a wish. i'm making a wish. okay. a magical, magical has absolutely nothing to do with you know. >> of course. >> of course. >> well, thank you very much. it isindeed >> well, thank you very much. it is indeed my birthday. and if it's your birthday at home, happy birthday to you as well. >> so you know everyone to send in your birthday wishes to emily gbnews.com/yoursay. but also, we're going to be talking a bit about the news as well. >> yes, all of that. after your headlines. >> good afternoon. it's 12:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom, first to the us, where

kamala harris is making quick moves to assert herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out. surveys suggest she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, giving her what she's called broad support in the days and weeks ahead. >> i, together with you, will do everything in my power to unite our democratic party, to unite our democratic party, to unite our nation. so in the next 106 days, we have work to do. we have doors to knock on. we have people to talk to. we have phone calls to make, and we have an election to win. >> james cleverly has told gb news that would be illegal. migrants were praying for a

labour government because it would mean the end of the rwanda plan. the shadow home secretary said the government had behaved in an arrogant manner , accusing in an arrogant manner, accusing them of tearing up the conservatives migrant plan without informing rwanda. his comments come as the tories set out a timeline for confirming a replacement for rishi sunak as the party's leader . but mr the party's leader. but mr cleverly says for now, his focus is elsewhere. >> well, i've always believed that you should do the jobs that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do them. so nominations open tomorrow . so nominations open tomorrow. so thoughts and activities about the leadership of the party, in my mind , start tomorrow. today's my mind, start tomorrow. today's work is about making sure that i discharge my duty as a shadow home secretary. i'll be at the despatch box later on today holding the new home secretary to account. >> in other news, violence against women and girls is a national emergency, with nearly 3000 crimes recorded every day. a report commissioned by the

national police chiefs council and the college of policing estimates that at least one in every 12 women concerns comes amid growing concerns onune comes amid growing concerns online influencers such as andrew tate are fuelling sex offences committed by teenage boys. he's currently facing criminal charges in romania for rape, human trafficking and sexual exploitation, all which he denies. the health secretary will hold talks with junior doctors in the hope of ending a long running dispute over pay. wes streeting has been meeting with the british medical association's junior doctors committee, after describing the revived talks as a crucial step forward. junior doctors have walked off the job 11 times in the past 20 months. it's led to the past 20 months. it's led to the delay of 1.5 million appointments, procedures and operations at an estimated cost to the nhs of more than £3 billion. the first blind barbie

has been released by toymaker mattel as part of a push to make the brand more inclusive. the blind doll has features that allow accessible play for children with sight loss, as well as representing a visually impaired woman. it comes with a cane with a marshmallow tip , cane with a marshmallow tip, fixtures of texture and vibrant fabncs fixtures of texture and vibrant fabrics , and velcro fastenings fabrics, and velcro fastenings on clothing. it follows in a long line of inclusive barbies, which have also seen the world's most famous doll. using a wheelchair and exploring hearing loss and down's syndrome . one of loss and down's syndrome. one of the world's greatest tennis champions will say au revoir after the paris olympics. andy murray has announced that this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on a spinal cyst just a week before the tournament began. in a post on social media, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to

do it one final time. scotland's first minister john swinney hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman and some breaking news to bring to you islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation . moments terrorist organisation. moments ago, woolwich crown court found that he directed the terror group and he'd encouraged support for it through online meetings. we'll bring you more as we get this. meetings. we'll bring you more as we get this . and finally , the as we get this. and finally, the last remaining member of the four tops, whose music helped define the sound of motown, has died at the age of 88. find you, no matter where you will, you will. >> you can't help myself because i love you and no one else. >> abdul fakir, who was often known as duke, was part of the quartette behind a string of hits throughout the 1960s. in

addition to i can't help myself, which you just heard , they also which you just heard, they also gave the world reach out, i'll be there and baby, i need your loving, all of which became instant classics. forever committed to his craft, he continued playing long after the group's heyday , completing his group's heyday, completing his final tour at the end of last year. final tour at the end of last year . fellow final tour at the end of last year. fellow musician final tour at the end of last year . fellow musician smokey year. fellow musician smokey robinson paid tribute to his friend, saying that duke would carry on making more heavenly music. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:08. now. for some breaking news. the bbc has published its

annual report today revealing their biggest earners. >> it has indeed, and gary lineker is once again the broadcaster's best paid presenter, taking home over a whopping £1.35 million each yeah >> radio presenter zoe ball is second on the bbc's list, earning between 950 and £955,000 each and every year. >> well, there you go. those are the top earners. >> quite a big gap between the two top earners there. >> oh, you think there's a gender pay gap going on. well there clearly is. well there is yes. in this specific case yes gary lineker 1.35 yes. in this specific case yes gary lineker1.35 i think last year he was on 1.3. >> yes. so he's gone up well gone up a little. is that inflation busting perhaps. not actually given the cost of living but i'm not quite sure. just how much gary lineker will be spending on, i don't know, the weekly shop. >> so tightening up the purse strings. no, no, 5.5% pay hike for him. but yes, elsewhere at the organisation, tim davie has apologised over alleged mistreatment of contestants on strictly come dancing. he said

i'm very sorry that anyone has had an experience on strictly that hasn't been wholly positive. i think that is something we do reflect on and i'm sorry about that. so there you go. being drawn to on a bbc strictly just as this report comes out, there's also some information that we'll dig into on the licence fee. how many people are paying for it? has it gone up? has it gone down? what's happened there? >> well, let's go to our reporter, adam cherry. he's outside broadcasting house for us with all of the details. adam. no big surprise that gary lineker is once again the big winner. >> no, no surprise there. although i would say there is one big surprise with the high earners on this list. and that is huw edwards. huw edwards, of course, has been off air for almost a year now, actually, and yet he nonetheless has received a pay yet he nonetheless has received a pay rise from 440,000 to 475,000. in the. in this report, he resigned from the bbc in april, so he won't appear next yeah april, so he won't appear next year. but nonetheless quite a huge pay rise for him. and as you say , this exists under a

you say, this exists under a cloud of scrutiny. the publication of this report, i was on a press briefing just before we came on air here from the bbc, explaining the findings in the report, but also explaining what's happened with the strictly come dancing controversy. and they say they will have chaperones for the dancers, for the contestants in the upcoming series. and as you say, tim davie apologised. they said the competition is natural and this is to be expected that there will be some sort of, you know, jostling of elbows. but this has clearly gone too far and they acknowledge that. and so for the second year running, this is published under under some scrutiny. last year it was the huw edwards scandal. this year it's , it's this one as you year it's, it's this one as you as you say gary. gary lineker at the top earner yet again zoe ball the second. and greg james from radio 1 also picking up a nice pay rise. he's on over 400,000. so nice work if you can get it guys. >> yes i'm just reading too here that the bbc will make a net reduction of 500 full time roles

over the next two years. that's just been announced as well . are just been announced as well. are there some issues then, with the money that's coming from the licence fee? >> yeah. well, i mean, when some of these stars get paid so much, you know, it doesn't take much to figure out why there's an issue . they in the report, they issue. they in the report, they say within the first few pages that there's a real problem with having to streamline the business as a result of the licence fee being stretched so, so thin. actually, i think since 2010 compared to 2010, 2011, they're operating with, in real terms, 30% less cash. so they are having to make the business more nimble, maybe rely on artificial intelligence and other and streamlining in other ways. so it's not not the easiest set of circumstances for them . them. >> it's very interesting to see these particular difficulties that the bbc has. after all, a number of its programmes are also facing some difficulty, not least strictly come dancing.

what have we learned about that? >> well, as i say, they explained in the press briefing just before i went on air that they're apologetic about this and they will have chaperones for the next series. they're not cancelling the next series. but stars like zara mcdermott and will bailey have complained about what is tantamount to bullying in their terms, in their words. and they have a serious problem here. and it's been going on for several years now. there is some counter, there's some criticism of these claims. the likes of ann widdecombe, who said on this channel that really this is just all part and parcel of being in all part and parcel of being in a competition. so clearly there's some digging to do. but this story isn't going away and they have a lot of explaining to do. i think, and a lot of contrition. >> yes, i'm sure, but adam, just lastly, i imagine some of the, you know, producers, the back room staff, they probably, you know, have a few grumbles, don't they? every year when this is reported that the likes of gary lineker on such whopping

salaries. >> yeah, absolutely. and it's not just these top earners, this is only revealing those on over £178,000 a year. so they'll be others who are taking home a nice pay packet too, who don't quite meet that threshold. most of them probably on screen rather than off screen. so every year this does cause some agitation in the newsroom. >> i wonder how many bbc stars are on £177.9 thousand a year, and don't have to be declared. adam cherry, thank you so much for joining us outside a new forjoining us outside a new broadcasting house there. >> i mean, i'm sure the cash sweetens things, but it probably is a little stressful for these stars when they see their names on this list and everyone can comment on whether they're worth it or not. >> well, goodness me, from one scandal to potentially another. after cancelling the conservatives, rwanda deportation scheme, the new home secretary, yvette cooper , made secretary, yvette cooper, made this claim in the house of commons yesterday . commons yesterday. >> so two and a half years after the previous government launched

it, i can report it has already cost the british taxpayer £700 million in to order send just four volunteers. it is the most shocking waste of taxpayers money. i have ever seen. >> so yvette cooper, they're claiming that the scheme has already cost £700 million. however, speaking to gb news this morning, shadow home secretary james cleverly rebuffed her claims. >> well, the figures that the home secretary used at the despatch box yesterday were nonsense. and the problem she's got, she seems to forget that there's only a few weeks ago that i was the home secretary, so i know exactly how much money has been spent on rwanda. and at the point that the election was called, it was just shy of 300 million, 700 million figure complete nonsense. the fact is that controlling our borders is never free, and the cost of

inaction will be considerably higher . higher. >> so james cleverly is having none of it, essentially saying that's a nonsense figure . that's a nonsense figure. >> well, while they argue over those numbers, two numbers are undeniable. first, that nearly 1500 illegal migrants have entered the uk on small boats in just the last week . and just the last week. and secondly, the french ghost coastguard has confirmed that two people have died during rescue operations just off the northern french coast. >> well, yes, and here in the studio, to break this all down for us, we're joined by homeland security editor mark white, mark, thank you very much indeed. when you hear these big numbers from politicians, you don't know who to believe. and i imagine these figures are very difficult to get hold of. >> well , difficult to get hold of. >> well, indeed. i mean, it's all rather unseemly. obviously, they're just arguing over the that cost , which i don't know that cost, which i don't know what yvette cooper's numbers are. what they actually are up

to, or indeed james cleverly's. i mean , the nearest we can come i mean, the nearest we can come to it is the national audit office. did, report recently that they had estimated that 500 million had been spent on rwanda so far. we know that 290 million has been given to the rwanda government. what yvette cooper is saying the other, sort of numbers coming from is the fact that, a thousand civil servants have been employed to work on the rwanda policy. the scheme that airlines have been an airline has been chartered that's never been used , that that's never been used, that they have arrested people, put them in accommodation , people them in accommodation, people that were languishing in the accommodation that has to be paid for as well. and so that's our figure anyway, is 700 million. >> is this not double counting? because of course people being rounded up and placed in detention, that may well have happened anyway. if these people

are due to be deported , whether are due to be deported, whether to rwanda or frankly, to anywhere else, and these flights that have been chartered that have been requisitioned now the government is briefing out that they're being used to send people back to their countries of origin. so is it really the government here sort of getting into a tizz trying to claim that money that was quote unquote, wasted on rwanda? well, it was actually for things in this country that are being used now. >> yeah. i mean, there's no doubt about that, that, you know, the flights, the charter flights have been paid for. we can reveal that our sources believe that that first flight that was going to rwanda tomorrow, under the previous government , it was planned to go government, it was planned to go in the 24th of july will still take off, but it will carry vietnamese, to that country, not confirmed by the government, but sources reliably indicating that thatis sources reliably indicating that that is going to be the case. so yes, you're right. the money that would have been spent sending these people to, vietnam

anyway is can be taken from the rwanda budget and again, the, the cost of putting people in accommodation. we know about. i mean, it's an £8 million a day and growing in fact , the this and growing in fact, the this government's policy is to try to get people out of hotels altogether, to try to ensure that all of the asylum processing is processed and the people are dealt with more quickly so that there can be a decision on either. yes, you stay. no, you don't stay. how do you deal with those that don't stay is another matter. but at least if you make those quick decisions, you get people out of hotels. because what yvette cooperis hotels. because what yvette cooper is saying is that if they do nothing at the moment and continue with this policy of tens of thousands of people languishing in hotels, then it's going to cost between 30 and £40

billion over the next five years, which she points out is double the bill for policing in england and wales. >> well, because james cleverly said that. he said he made the claim that the cost of inaction would be far higher than the cost of the rwanda scheme anyway . cost of the rwanda scheme anyway. i mean, is that fair to say? >> well, the, the fact is there was a good deal of inaction under the conservative government because one thing they did with the illegal migration act, when that came through in march 2023, is anyone coming over by, previously known as a regular route across the channel as a regular route across the channel, were deemed to be an illegal migrant and therefore, apart from very exceptional circumstances, were excluded from claiming asylum. so these people were in a limbo, if you like , of being unable to claim like, of being unable to claim asylum, but not being granted, leave to remain as such. and, you know, not really having any end in sight to what we would

actually do with them. so that was costing money. now, you could argue that if you process them, you grant, however many 60% or 70% asylum, then they're contributing to society again, they're not in hotels, they're paying they're not in hotels, they're paying taxes. and the sort of burden of the state is reduced. but then the counterargument to thatis but then the counterargument to that is if you start processing and granting lots of people asylum, then it's a pull factor for more people to come across the channel. i mean, the whole thing is an absolute mess, and it's only going to get worse. and yvette cooper acknowledges herself that the summer influx of migrants across the channel is likely to be very significant . is likely to be very significant. she claims she's inherited that from the conservatives. i'm not sure that the people smugglers were working in cahoots with the, the conservatives. that's just the what we have this illegal flow of migrants that this government has promised to, to, to fix by going after the

people smugglers. >> and 1500 just in one week. thank you. mark. you have the delightful task of updating us on more than 2000 since keir starmer came to power two and a half weeks ago and close to 16,000 for the year as a whole. >> so wow, that's me. >> so wow, that's me. >> well, it's important that we keep on top of these totals and mark white, thank you for doing the, doing the legwork for us. yes. thank you very much. well, coming up, as kamala harris wins enough support to clinch that crucial democratic nomination, nigel farage warns it would be potty to vote purely on the bafis potty to vote purely on the basis that she is a woman. but what more is there to it? more on that very shortly.

>> right. well. over to the united states. kamala harris has

now received the support of enough delegates to become the democrat party's nominee in november's presidential election, meaning she will almost certainly now face off against donald trump . against donald trump. >> yes. this comes as it was announced the democrats have received an astonishing get this $81 million in donations since joe biden stepped aside and endorsed his vice president. >> gosh, that's a lot of money, isn't it? let's get more on this now with gb news reporter ray addison. ray, what should we make of this all bring us the very latest. >> well, the very latest is that apparently, that figure has now reached $100 million. >> so it was 81 million yesterday evening. that's now crept up to 100 million crept. i mean, it's quite fast. >> his late night, dude. i mean, it's the middle of the night in america. >> well, there's a time difference to it , but but >> well, there's a time difference to it, but but yeah, money is absolutely pouring in. you mentioned the fact that she has secured enough support from the delegates at the to convention secure that, presidential nomination . so this presidential nomination. so this

is a survey by associated press. she's got over 2500 delegates. the cut off that you need to get above is just under 2000. so she's really, really well over that mark by what, around 25% or so. so it looks like she really is a shoo in. obviously the support from nancy pelosi , which support from nancy pelosi, which i think came late yesterday, has really helped with that as well. former house speaker i don't believe she's had the support yet from former president barack obama. he hasn't really. >> he's withholding, isn't he? >> he's withholding, isn't he? >> yeah, he's holding out. he said, you know, it'd be really nice to see a few more people, you know, a few more options . you know, a few more options. >> seems seems like that's really not going to happen now that the maths is just in the favour, is it because he'd rather see harris ? rather see harris? >> well, she's she's always claimed that she's never that she's never interested. but then politicians always say that she was she wasn't officially a politician was she. but i mean some republicans are responding to all of these events which have been happening very, very quickly, as we know as they've been describing it as a coup. you know, they've been saying that, and they've also been

saying that if biden is not fit to serve another four years, then why is he fit to serve another four months? and they're sort of urging him to stand down. others less keen on that. and they're pointing out that if donald trump has to go up against harris, it'd be better to go up against her sort of now seemingly sort of illegitimate, potentially, if you want to use that term, rather than having served as president for four years, in which case she'll be the incumbent and it'd be like, well, why do we need to change again? we'll be switching again and that could put some people off voting for trump. >> and yet i hesitate to bring this up. but there's a number of conspiracy theorists online about the health of joe biden , about the health of joe biden, about the health of joe biden, about the health of joe biden, about the whereabouts of joe biden. of course, he says he's suffering from covid. he phoned in to kamala harris's campaign event yesterday. but we haven't seen him. >> no, we haven't seen him. and there's been some comments that were made by his brother, which you may have seen. i think it was with to an interview with cnn where he said it would be,

you know, great to spend the remaining time we have with him with that sort of sparked off some sort of conspiracy theories about his health. obviously, we've all seen the video that were described as cheap fakes, but seem to be quite real to me that he had, you know , that he had, you know, struggling with his health, was struggling with his health, was struggling potentially with his mental acuity. and so now we have him suddenly dropping out. it suggests two things. either his health is really poor and he's not fit to appear on camera, not capable of appearing on camera or he hasn't reconciled himself with this decision that has been forced upon him, >> i think perhaps , perhaps it's >> i think perhaps, perhaps it's more the latter than the former, but of course he did sound a bit croaky on that phone call. of course, covid is a is a bit of a nasty thing if you're in your 80s. >> yeah, absolutely. well, thank you very much, ray, for bringing us the latest ray addison there. of course. >> well, meanwhile, reform, uk's leader and close ally of donald trump, nigel farage, has said it would be absolutely potty for americans to vote for kamala harris purely on the basis that she could become america's first

female president. he also added that joe biden should never have beenin that joe biden should never have been in the white house in the first place, and accused jill and hunter biden of elder abuse. >> well, to discuss this, we're joined by us political analyst and democrat supporter nomiki konst, a strong words from nigel. he doesn't tend to hold back with what he said, but is there some truth to what he's says there that a lot of people might just vote for? kamala harris simply because she's a woman? >> i think that nigel farage is trying to distract the public away from the trump ticket, which is really sinking . i mean, which is really sinking. i mean, jd vance, they had to turn away from jd vance on fox news yesterday because his speech was so boring. donald trump's incoherent, you know, historically long rnc speech didn't give the republicans a bump at all, which never happens. you know, the republicans were flailing before kamala harris stepped in. and now kamala harris has reignited the party $81 million in 24 hours, every single demographic in the democratic party, women, men. it doesn't matter. they're

all boosting the polls. people are excited, does it matter that she's a woman? absolutely are people going to vote for her because she's a democratic woman ? because she's a democratic woman? yes they are, because the rights of women in our country have been reversing at an astronomical rate in the last, you know , four years in you know, four years in particular, especially with the supreme court. so it does matter that we have a democratic party woman on the ballot who stands for reproductive rights. but beyond that, women are also voting for democracy. and the trump vance ticket wants to destabilise the world, isolate the united states from everywhere else, you know, pull out of ukraine and cosy up to vladimir putin and north korea. that's bonkers. the one thing that i think he's right about, though, is women are going to turn out for her. and when women turn out for her. and when women turn out, which they do, they we win. democrats win. you know, last cycle, joe biden won with women, hillary clinton won with women, hillary clinton won with women just a little bit below joe biden. and in a cycle like this where republicans are

doubung this where republicans are doubling down on young conservative males who don't turn out at the same rate as young, progressive females as as it's leaning more young people are switching, you know, more young men like you said, hillary clinton won with women. >> that's very true. she lost the election even though she won in the popular vote. she lost the election. and isn't this the crucial thing donald trump in the popular vote in 2016 was behind, but won the presidency. now, even though the democrats have had a small boost switching from biden to kamala harris, what they do see is still consistently in the national polls. donald trump ahead that republican ticket ahead in all of these national polls that we've seen coming out in the last few weeks, and indeed few days, that's in a stronger position for trump than he was in 2016. >> that's false, because those polls are old. polls take about a week to produce, and not all

polls are perfect. some are influence polls, some you have to look at the cross tabs, some you really have to go to detail and keep in mind the margin of error. but with that being said, they have not done a poll since kamala harris has become the nominee and i'm going to guess that those polls have shifted. there have been polls, though. >> there have been polls that suggested because there was a long, long period of time where people thought, might joe biden drop out? what might happen? and people have been polled. gretchen whitmer has been polled, gavin newsom has been polled, gavin newsom has been polled, pete buttigieg has been polled, pete buttigieg has been polled, and kamala harris was polled, and kamala harris was polled as well, showing those face ups against donald trump. >> except okay, again, the republicans have not gone up. they have a cap. donald trump has not gone up in those polls at all. it has been an enthusiasm gap with the democratic ticket because we had a crisis . but democratic ticket because we had a crisis. but guess democratic ticket because we had a crisis . but guess what? the a crisis. but guess what? the enthusiasm is back. you know, you're right. the popular vote was 12. 9 million more voters for hillary clinton than donald trump. and the mistakes that were made were strategic mistakes that we have all addressed in the past, you know, they're doubling down on the rust belt, the republicans right

now. well, guess what? when you pull those women in the rust belt, guess what they want. they want to have full abortion access. they want to have the rights that they had two years ago. they're criticising the supreme court decisions and them doubung supreme court decisions and them doubling down on punishing women. i mean, when jd vance called kamala harris cat lady who doesn't have children and she's angry at the world, and that's why she's running for president , i that's why she's running for president, i mean, that's bonkers. that's not even mentally sane at this point. and it's embarrassing for republicans to run on this ticket. okay. >> well, thank you very much. and sorry we have to cut you off there, but it's been great to chat to you. nomiki konst, political analyst and democrat, a supporter. thank you very much indeed.i a supporter. thank you very much indeed. i do wonderjust for a supporter. thank you very much indeed. i do wonder just for how many women that reproductive issue is like their top voting matter on the old abortion probably depends if they're urban or rural. >> probably depends on lots of other factors as well. >> well, coming up, notorious islamist preacher anjem choudary has now been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it. we're going to have more on that after your headunes have more on that after your headlines with severe.

>> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's 1230. >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's1230. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation known as al—muhajiroun. prosecutors said he directed a terror group for a significant period of time starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of the islamic thinkers society, head of counter—terrorism for the metropolitan police, says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem choudary and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk , will will help us to manage

uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety . but of course, public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation so our work won't stop here. >> but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . significant milestone. >> violence against women and girls is a national emergency, with nearly 3000 crimes recorded every day. a report commissioned by the national police chiefs council and the college of policing estimates that at least 1 in 12 women will be a victim each year, though the actual number is believed to be higher due to unreported crimes. it comes amid growing concerns that onune comes amid growing concerns that online influencers such as andrew tate are fuelling sex offences committed by teenage boys. he's currently facing criminal charges in romania for rape, human trafficking and sexual exploitation, which he denies, and kamala harris is making quick moves to assert herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to

challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out surveys suggest she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, giving her what she's called broad support. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> dot com. forward

>> good afternoon. britain. it is 20 minutes to 1:00. and in the last hour. notorious islamist preacher anjum chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it. right

>> well, let's get the latest now with gb news. national reporter, charlie peters. charlie, tell us what's happened . charlie, tell us what's happened. >> well, this is one of the most significant convictions in british counter—terrorism. >> counter—terrorism history. >> counter—terrorism history. >> and jim chowdhury found not guilty just only of encouraging support for a terrorist organisation. being a member of a terrorist organisation, but also guilty of directing a terrorist organisation . that terrorist organisation. that organisation is al—muhajiroun. it's been a proscribed organisation since 2010 and he has been found guilty on all three counts of those charges . three counts of those charges. found guilty today alongside khalid hussain, a canadian national who was arrested last july after flying into britain from canada. now al—muhajiroun. it's been proscribed since 2010, but prosecutors said that it had changed names on regular occasions to avoid detection. dufing

occasions to avoid detection. during the trial. we heard from prosecutors who detailed some of the names that this group had used and these charges specifically related to a north american group that khalid hussain, his co—defendant, was a member of. it was called the islamic thinkers society. now the prosecution said that it's the prosecution said that it's the islamic thinkers society and al—muhajiroun were one and the same. they were linked organisations that its was one of those cover names used by al—muhajiroun to avoid the counter—terrorism officials in britain. well, the defence said that they wasn't the case, that they were separate organisations, but it's in new york was intervened and it was intervened in by it was intercepted, sorry by undercover officers from the new york police department and the royal canadian mounted police. those undercover officers infiltrated onune undercover officers infiltrated online meetings and lectures that anjem choudary had delivered from 2022 and also 2023. now, anjum chowdhury was

previously in prison from 2016 to 2018 after encouraging support for isis, the islamic state group, as it was going about its horrific rampage in iraq and syria. he was released in 2018, but he had licence conditions until 2021. but it was after that period when those conditions were were released and he went on to deliver these lectures, that these charges were able to be brought about due to that international investigation involving several partners between the uk, the us and canada. well, after this verdict delivered today via woolwich crown court commander dominic murphy from the metropolitan police's counter terrorism command , detailed the terrorism command, detailed the significance of these verdicts. >> we know that anjem choudhury's had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem choudary and of course, his

group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk , will will help us to manage uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety . but of course, public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . significant milestone. >> well, the new york police department also said that anjem kira rudik was a shameless and prolific radicalised. he had been a significant radicalisation of so many terrorists in the past. senior security officials in britain have noted that for the vast majority of their careers in counter—terrorism, they have been looking at al—muhajiroun and the impact of anjem chaudry. and in reaction to these verdicts, we also heard further comments from the nypd saying that usually it's the foot soldiers who are caught in counter—terrorism operations. usually it's those who carry out attacks or who are planning them. it's rarely the radicalised her, but with these convictions of anjem choudary on

three counts of encouraging a terrorist organisation, membership of a terror organisation and most keenly that very rare section 56 of directing a terrorist organisation are a clear example of law enforcement being able to intercept and disrupt a radicalised to a leader and a key organiser of global terrorism. >> i mean, people , charlie, >> i mean, people, charlie, people have said up till now that he's almost been playing a game of cat and mouse with the police , that people slammed the police, that people slammed the length of the sentence back in 2016 for being too lenient. do we imagine that the sentencing for this, now that he's been convicted, will be a long sentence ? sentence? >> well, we don't have much precedence for this section 56 conviction of the terrorism act. there has only been one previously in recent history that was in 2008 for a man who was plotting for al—qaeda in britain, said to be the most senior al—qaeda operative. we'll have to check his sentence later. but the sentencing for

anjem chowdhury is coming in end of this month on july the 30th. and it was well noted during the trial that andrew and chowdhury had boasted in prison during his penod had boasted in prison during his period from 2016 to 2018, that he was seen as one of the key radicalises in the country. he noted in prison that he had to be kept away from others due to the way that he converted and preached to others, so those conditions and those preferences and understandings will be consistent, i think, with what the state does next. with anjan chowdhury at this sentencing on july the 30th. >> well, thank you very much, charlie. charlie peters there gb news national reporter. that's something that they'll have to bearin something that they'll have to bear in mind massively, isn't it, because it's very likely that someone like andrew chowdhury would wish to radicalise as many people as possible within prison. absolutely. so keeping him as separate as possible. so he can't do that. >> and also, i mean , just seeing >> and also, i mean, just seeing how he's been obviously convicted before out again, it's this merry go round that we keep

keep seeing short sentences clearly just don't work. >> yeah, yeah. so we'll see what happens with that. the sentencing as charlie said on july the 30th, we'll find out how many years he'll spend behind bars. i imagine. but coming up we'll be talking to a former chairman of the bma's gp committee because health secretary wes streeting is opening formal negotiations with junior doctors today

right. it's 1250. right. it's1250. good right. it's 1250. good afternoon . right. it's 1250. good afternoon. britain and the health secretary, wes streeting, has now opened formal negotiations with junior doctors today, as he looks to bring an end to their long standing pay dispute. >> the british medical association has been holding out for 35% pay rise for junior doctors, a figure the new health secretary has previously said is far too high. >> well, let's get the thoughts

of doctor lawrence buchman, former chair of the bma's gp committee . doctor lawrence, do committee. doctor lawrence, do you sense that something has changed? a new labour government? do you think the bma might budge? >> i think there's an opportunity for both sides to step back from the brink of their own creation, and to try and find ways of, making a deal, which, of course, is not just about money. it's about mood music and much more, the juniors have been treated very badly for many years now. not just financially. and there's a lot of government can do that doesn't include paying, money. obviously, money will be important . and it's how that is important. and it's how that is turned into a deal. the deal is never the one you start with. it's always something else, which includes a recognition of what things you do that are worth more than they were , and worth more than they were, and what things that you can change in terms of working practice and so on. that would make a difference. so nobody is going into this thinking that either

side will come out winners. there's no such thing as winners. it's not about victory. it's about coming to a deal that makes the nhs work, which it doesn't at the moment. >> of course, the junior doctors, the two twin heads of the junior doctor, bma committee, have been saying for some time that they might accept a sort of longer glide path to reach 35% pay rises . that might reach 35% pay rises. that might be a multi year settlement that sort of ekes it up each year. of course, that requires trust because it's not going to be written in blood . what sort of written in blood. what sort of things does the health secretary have to say to build that trust? >> well, he can start by meaning it, a long glide path is such an obvious part of the solution, i hope they do find some way of making that work. and that's where the what i've called mood music comes in. making juniors feel valued, showing that you're no longer going to go on badmouthing them, i think there's lots that you can do to

make people trust you in the ultimate two parties to any agreement, have to trust each other or be prepared to go to law if they don't trust each other. but i think there are ways of making this work. he's certainly making all the right noises at the moment. and i hope both sides, like i said, step back from the brink and make something happen. >> now we know a lot of the placards held up. we were just watching them are, you know, socialist workers variety at some of these walkouts and there's quite a lot there was a huge amount of anti—tory sentiment, along with, of course , sentiment, along with, of course, the asks for more pay, do you if you're honest, do you think that it will be easier simply because it's a labour government and not a conservative government? >> well, that obviously is a small factor in it, but you have to remember the class warriors are a very small number within the bma. the vast majority of bma members , are not bma members, are not particularly left or right wing, the big difference is that the

secretary of state is prepared to instruct his staff to make progress, which is different from the previous deals i have done deals with both tory and labouh done deals with both tory and labour, governments and i don't see that it's an impossible thing to do. you have to start, as we've agreed with, with trust and an agreement that you are there to solve a problem, not there to solve a problem, not there to solve a problem, not there to carry on a war. and i think once you walk away from war and the imagery of victory. >> well, doctor laurence buckman, i'm afraid that's all we've got time for. but thank you so much forjoining us and talking through those issues. we're going to be back with much more, not least on those bbc salaries. and. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news .

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>> good afternoon. britain. it's 1:00 on tuesday. the 23rd of july. i'm emily carver, and i'm tom harvard. migration woes. james cleverly hits back at yvette cooper for claiming the tories spent £700 million on the now cancelled rwanda scheme. while politicians argue over cash , migrants keep coming in cash, migrants keep coming in their thousands. >> commons speaker lindsay hoyle has spared keir starmer's blushes by not selecting the backbench labour rebellious motion on scrapping that famous two child benefit limit. he selected a similar motion from the snp instead. so will tonight's showdown in parliament now be a damp squib? >> and nigel farage has accused

president joe biden's wife and son of elder abuse. he says biden should never have been in the white house in the first place, and it would be absolutely potty if americans were to for vote harris on the bafis were to for vote harris on the basis of her being a woman and islamist preacher, anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings . meetings. and guess what? guess what guys ? and guess what? guess what guys? who's the top earner at the bbc this year , i can guess. this year, i can guess. >> go on, it's gary lineker. it is gary lineker. >> it is of course gary lineker. match of the day gary lineker at £1.35 million a year. quite good. a little bit up on last yeah >> oh just a, just a tiny £50,000. >> a little tiny chicken feed. >> a little tiny chicken feed. >> a little tiny, extra. yes.

quite a lot of money, quite a lot of money. and it looks like the bbc are going to be trying to streamline processes. 500 full time roles are getting the chop over the next couple of years. bbc licence fee fewer people are buying the licence fee. so you know, it's getting a bit tricky. >> it is getting tricky . but >> it is getting tricky. but whilst of course 500 bbc jobs are going, they've found the time to pay someone who's no longer in their employment . of longer in their employment. of course, these are last year's figures, but huw edwards managed to get a pay rise as well to £475,000 despite spending a considerable chunk of last year off air. >> i mean, what do you make of it all? is it do you feel comfortable with these guys getting so much money of course it is the taxpayer who's funding it is the taxpayer who's funding it through the licence fee. or perhaps you think it's just time to scrap the licence fee altogether. please do get in touch. we want to hear from you. gbnews.com forward slash your say and that's all to come after your headlines with sofia.

>> tom. thank you. good afternoon. it's 1:02. >> tom. thank you. good afternoon. it's1:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom as you've been hearing. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation known as al—muhajiroun . prosecutors said al—muhajiroun. prosecutors said he directed a terror group for a significant period of time, starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of islamic thinkers. addressing online meetings of islamic thinkers . society head islamic thinkers. society head of counterterrorism for the metropolitan police says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chaudry and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help us to manage public

safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone. >> meanwhile, in the us , >> meanwhile, in the us, attention is turning to who kamala harris may pick as her running mate as she asserts herself as a presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out . surveys suggest dropped out. surveys suggest she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination , giving democratic nomination, giving her what she's called broad support in the days and weeks ahead. >> i, together with you, will do everything in my power to unite our democratic party, to unite our democratic party, to unite our nation. so in the next 106 days, we have work to do. we

have doors to knock on. we have people to talk to, we have phone calls to make, and we have an election to win . election to win. >> back in the uk, james cleverly has told gb news that would be illegal. migrants were praying for a labour government because it would mean the end of the rwanda plan. the shadow home secretary said the government had behaved in an arrogant manner , accusing them of tearing manner, accusing them of tearing up the conservatives migrant plan without informing rwanda. his comments come as the tories set out a timeline for confirming a replacement for rishi sunak as the party's leader. but mr cleverly says for now, his focus is elsewhere. >> well , i've always believed >> well, i've always believed that you should do the jobs that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do them. so nominations are open tomorrow, so thoughts and activities about the leadership of the party in my mind, start tomorrow. today's work is about making sure that i discharge my duty as a shadow

home secretary. i'll be at the despatch box later on today holding the new home secretary to account . to account. >> in other news, police investigating disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've now made a total of 20 arrests. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children, who were taken into care. vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was overturned. west yorkshire police say the fast paced investigation continues and they've identified 40 suspects. a coroner has ruled that chemical attacker abdul ezedi took his own life and drowned within hours after carrying out the attack. the inquest into his death has heard. officers launched a hunt for the 35 year old after a woman and two girls were attacked in south london at the end of january. azad's body was recovered from the river thames in february after a huge manhunt. it came after his former partner, a mother of two, was doused with the corrosive

chemical in a harrowing attack on her and her children, who were aged eight and three. one of the world's greatest tennis champions will say au revoir after the paris olympics. andy murray has announced that this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on a spinal cyst just a week before the tournament began. in a post on social media, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to do it one final time. scotland's first minister john swinney, hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman and the last remaining members of the four tops, whose music helped define the sound of motown, has died at the sound of motown, has died at the age of 88. varne you know that i will you, will you, will you can't help myself because i love you and no one else. abdul

fakir, who was often known as duke, was part of the quartette behind a string of hits throughout the 1960s. in addition to i can't help myself, which you just heard. they also gave the world reach out, i'll be there and baby, i need your loving, all of which became instant classics. fellow musicians smokey robinson paid tribute to his friend, saying that duke would carry on making more heavenly music . those are more heavenly music. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's

1:08 to news from parliament. now in the last hour, commons speaker lindsay hoyle has spared the blushes of the prime minister, keir starmer. >> hoyle has chosen to not select the backbench labour rebellious motion on scrapping the two child limit on benefits. >> instead of selecting a red on red scrap, he selected a similar motion from the snp instead. >> yes, so will those rebellious labour mps be as comfortable voting for an snp motion, or will tonight's showdown turn out to be a damp squib? >> well, the, let's get to the very latest with our political correspondent katherine forster, joining us live from westminster, is this a bit of relief? because, sir keir starmer >> well, yes, i'm sure it will be. he hasn't even been prime minister for three weeks. and already there are rebellions brewing this cap on child benefit, where it's restricted to the first two children only

and born after 2015 is something thatis and born after 2015 is something that is deeply, deeply upsetting and offensive to many labour mps, especially those on the left of the party. they would dearly like sir keir starmer to ditch it now, and one of their own mps, kim johnson, had put forward an amendment that wasn't selected. to be honest, that was always highly unlikely to be selected because that's not the precedent. you don't select amendments from the governing party, but the snp's amendment andindeed party, but the snp's amendment and indeed the lib dems amendments on this, both have been accepted , both basically been accepted, both basically saying that that two child limit should be scrapped . now the vote should be scrapped. now the vote will be sometime about 7:00 this evening. the snp motion has got broad support from plaid cymru and other parties as well. the greens, independents like jeremy

corbyn and labour's john mcdonnell remember him? he was, of course, jeremy corbyn's shadow chancellor back in the day will support that too. now there's a good number of labour mps, upset about the cap, and i suspect that a few of them will vote with the snp amendment. but you know what? sir keir starmer has got a working majority of 181. so even if a few peel off to make their feelings felt about this, ultimately it's not going to change anything. but i think what it is, is a marker. for the future that, you know, because the majority is so big, there will be labour mps who feel that they can do, whatever they like. and, you know, the government is not changing its position in the lobby briefing with journalists earlier, the spokesman said the position on the policy and the public

finances has not changed since before the election. the chancellor has set out that the pubuc chancellor has set out that the public finances are worse than previously thought. she will give an update in due course. and of course, this is all about money because the cost of it would be about 3.4 billion a yeah would be about 3.4 billion a year. the government simply say they can't afford it at the moment. they'd like to do so in the future, but they don't want to put any time on that. >> well, katherine forster, thank you very much for that update. it will be it will be very interesting to see how many of those previously, rebellious labour mps who sort of had voiced their opposition , how voiced their opposition, how they will now be squeezed by the labour whips saying, oh, you don't want to, you don't want to vote for an snp amendment, do you? where they might have voted for the labour amendment. >> yes. but how important is that really? what i care about is whether they're going to scrap this limit come the down the line, because it's going to be hugely expensive. if they do. >> i don't think they'll do that this year, but i can very easily see a situation where the labour

party waits sort of two budgets in halfway through their term and they say, look , we've turned and they say, look, we've turned the economy around so much that we can now, scrap this . marvellous. >> your eighth child, the eighth child. >> so, so i would be very surprised if by the end of the parliament they haven't scrapped it, but for political reasons, more than anything else, they won't do it now. >> but there are lots of, you know, there's lots of spending pledges now, sort of ramping up, aren't they? i mean, this payment settlement with the junior doctors, that's not going to come cheap. no. if they do budge anyway. but moving on, because the tory leadership race has now officially begun, rishi sunak formally stood down, of course, as the leader of the conservative party. >> well, he won't do that until november, but. >> right. >> right. >> well, he hasn't yet, but he he's announced his intention to stand down. but the shadow home secretary, james cleverly, has strongly indicated that he'll throw his hat in the ring to replace rishi sunak. whilst kemi badenoch suella braverman, tom tugendhat, priti patel and robert jenrick are also expected to run for the top job. >> yes. well, should we get the thoughts of former conservative mp brendan clarke—smith brendan,

thank you very much for joining us on the show this afternoon. i was looking at the latest polling on this issue of tory leadership. it looks like robert jenrick is the standout at the moment . moment. >> yeah, i think there's a number of ways of interpreting the polls and how they're done in different rounds, because members aren't going to have a say until it gets whittled down to the final two. so there'll be a lot of, sort of games behind the scenes going on and, trading of votes and so on, i would expect. but it's going to be quite a long contest from the looks of it, a very long contest, but perhaps slightly different to the way that the last contest was. >> i think a lot of people thought the last contest was slightly too short in the first half too and long in the second half. getting that broad spread of candidates down to two. and then the final two. rishi sunak and liz truss just going on for months, perhaps this new setup whereby there will be whittling down to four candidates who then have the long slog of campaigning, culminating in what's being called a beauty contest at conservative party

contest, i'm not quite sure how beautiful it really will be, but gorgeous, i'm sure. i'm sure it will all be very attractive . but will all be very attractive. but but this is almost similar to what happened in 2005. brendan >> yeah, yeah it is. tom. >> that's a good point of course, in between we had another leader and we didn't have a contest at all. >> and there's been this argument over whether the parliamentary party should have more of a say or whether the membership should be more loved and or whether the members pick, you know, if there's a problem with the party in westminster and they're not happy with it, is that going to cause a problem? so yeah, and there's a lot to be discussed. i think what we do need to focus on, though, is less so much on who is actually going to be the next leader and more as to what we actually stand for. i think that's our our biggest problem, really. and, a case of where it's not just that we're going to manage things slightly better than labour are, what do the conservative party for ? stand conservative party for? stand are we the party of low taxes and a small state? are we tough on immigration, tough on law and order? and what what is our offer to the public? whoever becomes the leader? >> well, of course , the last

>> well, of course, the last election hit you hard. you did lose your seat. so i imagine you've done quite a lot of thinking about what went wrong. what do you think? do you think the conservatives went too far away from conservatism, from right wing politics, if you want to call it that. what do you think went wrong? >> yeah. i mean, on the plus side , i qualify for child side, i qualify for child benefit again. i've only got two children, so, that's one of the one of the better points, i guess. yeah. i think a lot of people felt unloved. some people say, oh, your vote went to reform. and yes, a lot, a lot of it did. a lot of it did in bassetlaw where i am. would all of those votes gone to the conservatives? i don't think they would. i mean, we noticed they would. i mean, we noticed they were taking a lot of votes off labour as well. and the turnout was pretty woeful. conservatives, we said they wouldn't turn out at the local elections and the mayoral elections, and they'd come back at the general, and a lot of them still didn't. so if you actually have a look at the numbers there, there's a wider problem there with engagement. as i said, it's about delivery really . so immigration. yes, really. so immigration. yes, probably the midlands and the

north, we'd say that's the main issue. some people in the south may say it's not. but then you can link it with housing, with the nhs , the idea of things the nhs, the idea of things working well enough, and that's why we've got into this argument about delivery again. so really we've, we've got to convince them that we're the party that's going to deliver again. >> now, of course, the vast majority of your former colleagues lost their seats. the party's fallen from 365 seats to 121. it's a rump of its former self, one of the concerns people have expressed about this process is that given the few number of conservative mps there now are in the house of commons, there are going to be limited moments when the country is frankly listening to what the new leader of the opposition says. does it really make sense to have the new leader installed ? to have the new leader installed? two days before the us presidential election? or will all of the energy, all of the oxygen in british politics be devoted to, to mr trump over in the united states?

>> that's a really good point. so and i've said the same myself. so you could use party conference in one of two ways. again, you can use it as a beauty parade to see who the next leader is. i think that normally would be a good use of party conference, but as you said, you know, two days later when donald trump wins, i'm sure he will win, quite convincingly as well. i hope he does, you know, he's going to be taking all of all of the publicity with it. and, at the same time, you could argue, should we get a leader in quicker than that? and rishi sunak said he's prepared to hold the fort. that's a long time to do it. until november as well, how are we going to get noticed? and again, it all comes down to what is our message. so when we choose that next leader and you've been through some of the candidates, there and we obviously decide who our preference is, i unfortunately don't get to vote in the earlier rounds. now, i'm no longer an mp. they're going to have to address that. and we're going to need someone who can bring the pubuc need someone who can bring the public with them. >> all right. well, thank you very much indeed. brendan clarke—smith former conservative mp, great to chat to you. thank

you. >> thanks a lot . >> thanks a lot. >> thanks a lot. >> right. well, i believe we have some breaking news now to bnng have some breaking news now to bring you the uk's bibby stockholm barge for migrants is to be shut down. now we have mark white in the studio with us, this is breaking. >> well, the new government continuing to unpick everything, really that the previous government has done in terms of the way it's dealt with the small boat crisis and the housing of asylum seekers, the bibby stockholm barge , which is bibby stockholm barge, which is in portland in dorset, highly controversial, because people claim that the conditions were just not acceptable for holding large numbers of people on that barge . now, the government has barge. now, the government has confirmed that as of january next year , no more people will next year, no more people will be on that barge. that barge will be returned to its owners. so it's here as part of a contract arrangement under the previous government until

january of 2025. that will continue until then. but then that that contract will not be renewed. and according to the government, that will save some £20 million in costs next year, whether that then, takes into account the cost of putting these people elsewhere , clearly these people elsewhere, clearly that's still to be determined because they've got to be accommodated somewhere unless they're just going to be set free, which i don't think they are. >> the labour party's always called the bibby stockholm, a gimmick. of course, it could only hold around 400 people on board, and it did cost quite a bit of cash. perhaps it's fairly indicative of lots of things about the last government. they had an idea, but they never really followed through with that idea. to the full extent. it was beset by challenges from unions, legal challenges, lawyers , all the rest of it. and

lawyers, all the rest of it. and it never got to capacity. >> i think with the previous government would say, is that they came up against the machinery of all of you that you've just mentioned. there of the unions, the refugee charities, the lawyers , the charities, the lawyers, the lefty lawyers, as they called them , who would launch into an them, who would launch into an attack on any plan that the government had to they were supposed to be a government with an 80 seat majority. >> margaret thatcher ran into the problems of left wing lawyers and union barons and all the rest of it, but she won . the rest of it, but she won. what was it about the last government that simply was so feeble in taking on these interests? >> well, i mean, it's a good point, but i think the issue with the last government was nothing to do with the 80 seat majority. it was a determination of the government as advised by its civil servants, to stick by the law. these were challenges that went through the courts, not through parliament. as such, so it was decisions that were

made in the courts that really tangled up everything from the rwanda scheme to the bibby stockholm to constant legal challenges about the other asylum accommodation centres wethersfield in essex or at scampton up in lincolnshire, i should say, incidentally, as well. we understand, although not formally announced , that not formally announced, that next in the pipeline to be scrapped will be those two accommodation sites as well, scampton, which was earmarked for i think 1700 asylum seekers, has won not asylum seeker on site at the moment . and of site at the moment. and of course wethersfield again. it was about 1500 asylum seekers . was about 1500 asylum seekers. there's about 600, i think , on there's about 600, i think, on site there at the moment as well, talking about lefty lawyers and the like and the refugee charities, >> also just local residents up in arms about this. we had reporters there, felt almost daily, to see what was going on.

and hordes of people there who absolutely did not want this barge there to be hosting migrants. yeah. >> and it was almost an impossible situation for the government to face because they knew just how unpopular the current scheme of taking hotels out of public use, of requisitioning hotels effectively and denying the use of a hotel to a community, denying that facility for weddings and other functions for tourists and business people coming to a local area to be used instead by asylum seekers, more than 4 or 500 right up and down the country, you know, barely a community. not affected by seeing a hotel near them requisitioned in this way. they knew how unpopular that was, and that's why they were driven towards the model, which makes some kind of sense to have more purpose built, or at least specially adapted larger scale areas. it would be cheaper in

the long run to house many more people, though perhaps not, as you say, cheaper with all the resistance that they face from local community. come up against groups . groups. >> is there now perhaps a third opfion >> is there now perhaps a third option that the government is looking at? perhaps not saying this explicitly, but implicitly their policy will be instead of holding people in hotels or barges or raf bases , that barges or raf bases, that they're just going to grant them asylum and let them into normal communities. >> you've hit the nail on the head. that's exactly what the policy is. that's going forward . policy is. that's going forward. what this government will do is process asylum seekers more quickly now . they will deny that quickly now. they will deny that what they're doing is just granting them all asylum. but we know because of the various complicating factors, which is that so many of the people coming across on small boats are from countries that you cannot return them to, that if you don't get asylum, then at least you're probably going to get indefinite leave to remain because you cannot be returned

to afghanistan or iran or iraq or syria. and some other countries besides. so, what do you do? all you can do in the absence of a third safe country like rwanda, to put these people to, you have to give them to indefinite leave to remain. >> and it's going to have to be a huge amount of social housing, presumably, cordoned off for these people. i mean, it's a huge number 90,000, up to 100,000 who may have their, their claims processed very quickly indeed. i mean, it's hard for the new labour government not to, you know , to government not to, you know, to defend really that they're not providing it. >> but you can see how it's also very tempting to go down the route of just getting the applications for asylum process very quickly , realising which very quickly, realising which will, i'm sure be something that drives a lot of people towards feelings of anger, but realising that a very significant number of these people are going to be given leave to remain or granted asylum. but in doing that,

you're not relying on hotels to keep tens of thousands of people. you're not having to bibby stockholm or raf bases that are very unpopular as well, turned into accommodation centres. and then these people, if they are moved into society, if they are moved into society, if they are absorbed and given the ability to be able to earn a living and contribute towards the taxes of this country, they are a net, as the government would see it, a net benefit to the country rather than a drain on our resources. >> very difficult to be a net benefit takes a while, takes a while. it does. >> it takes a long time, takes a very long time, takes a very long time. >> thank you very much indeed. mark white home and security edhoh mark white home and security editor. good stuff. >> well, coming up, our young men being radicalised by online influencers like andrew tate, we're going to be having

>> right. it's 129, >> right. it's129, and the bbc has published its annual report today revealing their biggest earners . earners. >> yes, guess who gary lineker is once again , the broadcaster's is once again, the broadcaster's best paid presenter. taking home a whopping £1.35 million each. and every year. >> quite nice. and radio presenter zoe ball is second on the bbc's big list, earning between 950 and £955,000 each yeah >> well , third on the list is >> well, third on the list is someone who is no longer a presenter at the bbc. yes, huw edwards takes home a whopping £475,000. >> yes, even though there was all that scandal around him. gb news reporter adam cherry is outside london broadcasting house for us. adam, i guess it's no surprise that gary lineker has taken the top spot, you know, no surprise there. >> but as you say, the big

surprise is huw edwards. now, i was on a press briefing just before 12:00 as these figures were published . and huw edwards, were published. and huw edwards, excuse me, tim davie, the director general, was asked about why huw edwards has received a £40,000 pay rise despite being off air for the entire year. and he said they acted proportionately in his words. they think they acted proportionately in the circumstances and it's normal policy for a staff member to receive full pay while they're suspended now. huw edwards has since resigned. he resigned in april this year. so this is the last year we'll see him on this list. but nonetheless, he took home at least £470,000 in the last year. it also these figures are also released under the cloud of the strictly come dancing scandal. if you will. last year it was the huw edwards scandal. this year more scrutiny. and again tim davie apologised for that and said that there was clearly misconduct on on behalf of the

professional dancers towards the contestants . and this year they contestants. and this year they all have chaperones and things will be done a little bit differently. but of course they're not cancelling that series because it is so popular. and there's been some counterclaims there from the likes of ann widdecombe saying, you know, this is just part of the rough and tumble of a competition. but zara mcdermott has other ideas. she said she was essentially bullied by her dance partner, so a lot to contend with, not least because they say they are now £1 billion a year worse off because the licence fee is stretched so thin. so compared to 2010, they're operating with roughly 30% less money in real terms. so there may be cuts they'll have to streamline. not an easy time for the bbc unless you're one of its highest paid presenters. >> well , adam its highest paid presenters. >> well, adam cherry its highest paid presenters. >> well , adam cherry outside its highest paid presenters. >> well, adam cherry outside new broadcasting house, thank you very much for bringing us the very much for bringing us the very latest there. >> yes, i've been off air all year and still £475,000. >> not bad. not bad work if you can get it.

>> yes, but coming up, notorious islamist preacher anjum chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings. that's to come after your headlines with severe . your headlines with severe. >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's 132. >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's132. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . some wenzler in the gb newsroom. some breaking news. a police officer has been stabbed in the chest at a prison . the officer is a prison. the officer is conscious and talking in hospital after the incident this morning. franklin prison. that's according to durham police. he was visiting a category a men's prison from an outside force. we will bring you more as we get it. the government will shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system . use of the bibby asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm barge, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. human rights campaigners have compared

it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane. the extending the use of the bibby stockholm would have cost more than £20 million a year. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation known as al muhajiroun. prosecutors said he'd directed a terror group for a significant period of time starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of the islamic thinkers society , the islamic thinkers society, violence against women and girls is a national emergency, with nearly 3000 crimes recorded every year a day . sorry. every year a day. sorry. a report commissioned by the national police chiefs council and the college of policing estimates that at least one in every 12 women will be a victim each year, though the actual number is believed to be higher due to unreported crimes. it comes amid growing concerns that onune comes amid growing concerns that online influencers such as andrew tate are fuelling sex

offences committed by teenage boys. offences committed by teenage boys . he's currently facing boys. he's currently facing criminal charges in romania for rape, human trafficking and sexual exploitation, which he denies , and kamala harris is denies, and kamala harris is making quick moves to assert herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out. surveys suggest she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, giving her what she's called broad support. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts .

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>> well. good afternoon . >> well. good afternoon. britain. it's 139 now. a new shocking report calls violence against women and girls a national emergency. that's as 3000 offences are recorded every single day. >> well, police chiefs warn that

young men are being radicalised onune young men are being radicalised online into extreme misogyny by influencers like andrew tate in the same way that terrorists draw in followers. >> so our influencers like andrew tate, radicalising young boys online, and could they even be to blame for rising violence against women? >> well, the writer and broadcaster emma webb says influencers like andrew tate are promoting misogyny, while the podcaster jake julius says boys need more masculine role models, well, okay, jake, let's have you put your case first. >> well, i think that the real problem you're looking at here, particularly with the uk, is that you have a feminised liberal culture that has imported a much more masculine culture with mass immigration of islamic people. >> and these people have very progressive ideas about gender roles. and these people don't believe that timmy can become tammy if he decides to . if he's tammy if he decides to. if he's blue hair, marxist teacher tells him he can. so you guys have a lot bigger problems to worry about than andrew tate, so it's laughable. >> okay, well , emma, andrew

>> okay, well, emma, andrew tate, lots of people have mentioned, i think even teachers are now warning against andrew tate in the classroom. how much influence do you think he has ? influence do you think he has? and is he promoting misogyny in a way that could potentially encourage men and young boys to be violent against women? >> well, he is very popular, but actually, i do agree with jake. i think that we do have much bigger problems than andrew tate when it comes to people's attitudes towards women. the problem with andrew tate is that he is very popular, but he's also, i think, a very good role model for young men. i don't think he's more model traditional male vocals in any way. and i don't think, you know, in many ways that he, is, is promoting the opposite of the kind of manners that we want young boys to have towards women. >> i think your line is your line is a bit inaudible. so we'll try and fix that . and we'll try and fix that. and shall we turn back to jake ? shall we turn back to jake? because the problem is andrew

tate. >> i've seen some of it, jake. >> i've seen some of it, jake. >> i've seen some of it, jake. >> i've seen a lot of, you know, clips of andrew tate, and i've watched some interviews with him, and he seems to almost be radicalising himself. he seems to have gone from sort of promoting, you know, men need to for stand up themselves and be strong partners to women , to strong partners to women, to actually women are property and women are of lesser value. do you think that's fair to say that he's got more extreme in his position? >> no, i don't i think, first of all, you have to understand that all, you have to understand that a lot of what he does is on twitter. it's comedy, so you have to take it with a pinch of salt. and if you actually listen to his interviews in more detail, you'll find that his views are actually much more nuanced than that. so maybe go on research it. but some of the things that andrew. >> i've actually listened to him at length. i've actually listened to him at length. >> oh, well, you've straw manned his position. so maybe listen again. but some of the positions that he doesn't promote are things like crime, pornography, transgenderism, video games,

male feminism, drinking, taking drugs , and also new age drugs, and also new age spiritualism. some things that men are actually turning towards that are actually destructive. >> well, it could be argued that men turning towards, forcing women to stay at home and be subjugated in, in domestic life is also fairly dangerous , is also fairly dangerous, perhaps more dangerous than video games. >> well, this is the thing that obviously you've been feminised by the feminism that is in the water that you drink in the air, that you breathe, my friend. but this is the problem with feminism, that they they think that women are being subjugated when actually a lot of women would love to stay home. a lot of women would love to be stay at home mothers. and actually, it's one of the most difficult jobs is jobsis raise people. so if you raise 3 or 4 people and you're a mother, an amazing thing. but unfortunately with messaging like this, the feminist messaging will actually denigrate motherhood. a lot of women won't feel subjugated, i'll tell you that much. >> find it hard to sort of understand how i've been feminised if i think that women

have a role in the workplace, i don't. i don't quite see how thatis don't. i don't quite see how that is more feminine. but should we turn back to emma webb? let's hope that your audio is working. what do you make of this entire dichotomy , this entire dichotomy, >> look, i just to repeat what i said in case people couldn't hear me, i don't think that andrew tate is the problem when it comes to violence against women. i think that he's not a good role model for young men . i good role model for young men. i think that men lack good role models and many men, increasingly young boys, are living in, households where they don't consistently have a father present. and i actually think that jake is right about mass migration. do you think that people leave their misogynistic culture at the border when they migrate to a new country? no, of course they don't. and there was one example recently of somebody who raped a child in germany and was somehow in the uk for five months before being arrested. so we have all sorts of problems, beside andrew tate, but that doesn't mean that it isn't. he isn't a malign influence in the

sense that he isn't a good role model. and i think actually the way that the term misogyny is used can also be a problem, because very often people are accused of sexism if they open a door for a woman or pull out a chair for a woman. but actually, i think restoring some of those traditional manners between men and women would actually deal with part of the problem, because many of the ways that people now behave towards women, particularly influenced by pornography culture, i mean, more than half of sexual offences committed against child children, against, according to the npcc, are committed by other children . so we have all of children. so we have all of these other problems and the real elephant in the room, of course, is the fact that we effectively have no control over our border. we do not know who is coming in. and of course, that's going to put women and children at risk, so yes, i do think that andrew tate is not a good role model, but i think that we have a much, much bigger problem on our hands. >> okay. and, jake, to just challenge you on on these online

influencers like andrew tate, i find that a lot of them are very outspoken about how people should be living their lives. so marriage and having children and looking after your family and working hard, but then you look at them and they're not really living their lives in that way. they're usually unmarried. they're usually unmarried. they're usually unmarried. they're usually got lots of girlfriends. they usually just flashing superficial things like a new car and whatever else. not necessarily living by the standards that they set for other men. >> yeah. no, i think that that's a very fair assessment. you'd have to tell me specific examples . if you're talking examples. if you're talking about andrew tate, i'm sure you're aware that he's converted to islam. so he believes in the whole having five wives thing. i don't believe in that. but i think the more important issue here, that our other guests. i'm so sorry, i forgot your name , so sorry, i forgot your name, but, just raised is the fact that. emma. sorry is that you guys have, like, a lot of mass migration happening, which is a big problem. and this is something that's not new. guys, tommy robinson was talking about this over a decade ago when he was saying that there are grooming gangs , grooming young grooming gangs, grooming young women in english towns and the

media, and the police wanted nothing to do with it . nothing to do with it. >> yeah. and there have been a number of inquiries into that now. and thankfully the problem is being addressed and much more spoken about in the mainstream, not least by our own charlie peters, who made a fantastic documentary on the grooming gang scandal aired here on gb news. i'm afraid we've run to the end of that conversation, but jake juuus of that conversation, but jake julius and emma webb, thank you so much for your contributions. really interesting stuff. >> thank you very much indeed. i think it's, you know, you can easily disapprove of people like andrew tate and there's a lot to disapprove about, believe me. i mean, just watch some of his stuff. you don't have to be a rampant feminist. not to not to like this man. he really does come out with some awful, awful stuff, in my opinion. but i think it's a stretch to say that therefore men are committing more violent crimes against women as a result. i mean , women as a result. i mean, potentially, potentially there is that link there. >> i just find it fascinating . >> i just find it fascinating. he's converted to islam. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he has about say, well, maybe he'd be happier living in saudi arabia or something where women have to walk ten, ten metres behind you or whatever it is, i mean, maybe, maybe, maybe he

should just make his life in, in one of those countries. >> all right, well, coming up, we're going to be live from new scotland yard as islamist preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging followers. we'll be there in

all right. well, 151 is the time. and the notorious islamist preacher anjum chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings. >> well, let's get the very latest now with our gb news national reporter charlie peters, outside new scotland yard. charlie, what exactly has gone on today ? gone on today? >> well, anjum chowdhury has been found guilty of several terrorism convictions today . terrorism convictions today. it's not only being a member of a terrorism organisation. guilty. it's not only encouraging a terrorist

organisation guilty, but also it's section 56 of the terrorism act directing a terrorist organisation guilty. on that count. organisation guilty. on that count . also, the first such count. also, the first such conviction under that section of the law in england and wales since 2008, when a so—called mastermind of al—qaeda was jailed for life for a similar charge . anjum chowdhury was charge. anjum chowdhury was facing this trial at woolwich crown court, having been arrested at his home in ilford in east london, last july following an extensive operation involving both american and canadian partners. he was charged with being in the caretaker role for a for a group that's been banned since 2010, called al—muhajiroun. he took over this role, prosecutors said, after its founder, omar bakn said, after its founder, omar bakri mohammed, fled britain to lebanon, where he was jailed in 2014, with anjum chowdhury taking over that position and running that terrorist organisation. these charges revolve around lectures that he

gave in 2021 to 2023 online to a branch in the us called the islamic thinkers society. now dominic murphy, the commander of met police's counter terrorism command , reflected on the command, reflected on the significance of those verdicts handed down today. >> we know that anjem chowdhury's had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chowdhury and of course his group al—muhajiroun are proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk , will will help us to manage uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety . but of course, public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone. >> well, the unique nature of this investigation involved undercover officers from the united states and also from canada to infiltrate this group,

the islamic thinkers society, as those online lectures were delivered. but also as the groups plotted on encrypted chat platforms. we also heard from the deputy commissioner of the new york police department, rebecca wiener, who also reflected on these convictions. >> so this is an incredibly significant verdict, not just here in the uk, but overseas as well, a prolific and shameless radicalised, like anjem , radicalised, like anjem, chowdhury has managed to inspire influence and be involved in the radicalisation of generations of individuals . individuals. >> a prolific and shameless radicalisation that's how those investigating officers saw anjum chowdhury. and during this trial we heard how anjum chowdhury had boasted as being seen as one of the leading radicalises in britain. as a great honour, a medallion even in court. he described how when he was last in prison between 2016 and 2018,

over support for the islamic state terrorist organisation in iraq and syria, he had to be separated from other prisoners due to his well—known process for radicalising. others. other extraordinary details that came out during this case in woolwich. we heard that he had once joked about how omar bakri muhammad, that ideological leader of al—muhajiroun, that terrorist organisation, had charged members of the press £9.11 to enter a media event on the 20th 21st anniversary of 9/11. we also heard that anjum chowdhury had officiated at the wedding of one of lee rigby's killers. he is as the nypd described him, a shameless and prolific radicalised . but all prolific radicalised. but all too often when counterterrorism officials deal in these cases, they deal with the foot soldiers, those who carry out terrorist acts. it's very rare that they get to deal with an organiser, a leader, a director of a terrorist organisation. but this conviction today, section

56 of the terrorism act sees the counter—terrorism officials get that conviction that they so desperately wanted. after anjum chowdhury dominating counter—terrorism in britain and around the world for almost two decades. >> goodness me. well, charlie peters, thank you so much for that report outside new scotland yard. of course, it just strikes me that that this guy, it's not his first run in with the authorities. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> it's not a second run in with the authorities. he's been convicted before on similar charges and obviously his sentence simply wasn't tough enough. >> no, not tough enough. not long enough. i mean, this is a man who celebrated the 9/11 attacks. he called them magnificent martyrs. the people that flew into the twin towers and killed many , many people, he and killed many, many people, he really is foul , so we shall see really is foul, so we shall see what the sentencing has in store, at the end of this month. but i do hope that it is harsh, and i'm sure many people will see the same . see the same. >> i think many people will be thinking, throw away the key,

but much more to come on this program of course. the bbc's director general has apologised to strictly come dancing contestants after complaints of abusive behaviour on the programme. much more on that to

good afternoon. britain. it's 2:00 on tuesday, the 23rd of july. i'm tom harwood, and i'm emily carver . july. i'm tom harwood, and i'm emily carver. migration woes. james cleverly hits back at yvette cooper for claiming the tories spent £700 million on the now cancelled rwanda scheme, while politicians argue over cash and indeed scrap various schemes from the bibby stockholm to raf scampton migrants keep coming in their thousands. >> yes, and commons speaker lindsay hoyle has spared keir starmer's blushes by not selecting the backbench labour rebellious motion on scrapping the two child limit. he's selecting a similar motion from

the snp instead. well, tonight's showdown be a damp squib and nigel farage has accused president joe biden's wife and son of elder abuse. >> he says biden should never have been in the white house in the first place, and it would be absolutely potty for americans to vote for harris on the basis of being a woman and the breaking news, their islamist preacher, anjem choudary, has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings. well, what do you think should happen to anjem choudary? is it a disgrace , frankly, that he was a disgrace, frankly, that he was free to walk the streets and preach after his various previous transgressions? clearly a very serious, verdict being

reached. >> i mean, this is a problem when we talk about it so much on this programme with the criminal justice system as it is, that so many times criminals are let out, or perhaps they're released early, suspended sentences and then guess what? go on to commit further crimes. and if you were going to look up a textbook islamist ideologue, it would be anjem choudary. i mean, he's not been out of the news really for decades now . 20 odd years, decades now. 20 odd years, probably even longer than that for various links to terrorist groups running them , you know, groups running them, you know, trying to encourage people to support his cause and the like, calling for caliphate, etc, etc. and looking more broadly at the criminal justice system. >> time and time again, we see people who end up being arrested for some brutal crime, some, sexual violence or murder or whatever it is. oh, it turns out they'd been in prison before. they'd served one and a half years. two years. and before you can before you can say danger to

society. they're out again and committing crime again. it happens so very often. such a small percentage of the population are responsible for such a broad percentage of the crime. >> it's like groundhog day, isn't it? but yes, 30th of july isn't it? but yes, 30th of july is apparently when he's going to be sentenced . so we'll see what, be sentenced. so we'll see what, what they have in store , for what they have in store, for him. but please do get in touch. interested to know your views? gbnews.com/yoursay is the way to do that. but let's get the headunes do that. but let's get the headlines with sofia. >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's 2:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the government will shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. but human rights campaigners compared compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as

inhumane, extending the use of the bibby stockholm would have the bibby stockholm would have the cost of more than £20 million next year. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he'd directed the al—muhajiroun group for a significant period of time, starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of islamic thinkers. society head of counter—terrorism for the metropolitan police, says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chaudry and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help us to manage public safety. but of course, you know,

we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation . so our work radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone. >> meanwhile, in the us , >> meanwhile, in the us, attention is turning to who kamala harris may pick as her running mate, as she asserts herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out, survey suggests she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, giving her what she called broad support . in other news, a police support. in other news, a police officer has been stabbed in the chest at a prison. the officer is conscious and talking in hospital following the incident, which happened this morning at frankland prison. that's to according durham police. he was visiting the category a men's prison from an outside force .

prison from an outside force. james cleverly has told gb news that would be illegal. migrants were praying for a labour government because it would mean the end of the rwanda plan. the shadow home secretary said the government had behaved in an arrogant manner, accusing them of tearing up the conservatives migrant plan without informing rwanda. his comments come as the tories set out a timeline for confirming a replacement for rishi sunak as the party's leader, but mr cleverly says for now, his focus is elsewhere. >> well, i've always believed that you should do the jobs that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do them. so nominations open tomorrow , so nominations open tomorrow, so thoughts and activities about the leadership of the party, in my mind , start tomorrow. today's my mind, start tomorrow. today's work is about making sure that i discharge my duty as a shadow home secretary. i'll be at the despatch box later on today holding the new home secretary to account. >> now, police investigating

disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've now made a total of 20 arrests. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children, who were taken into care. vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was also overturned. west yorkshire police say the fast paced investigation continues and they've identified 40 suspects. a coroner has ruled that chemical attacker abdul ezedi took his own life and drowned within hours after carrying out the attack. the inquest into his death has heard . inquest into his death has heard. officers launched a hunt for the 35 year old after a woman and two girls were attacked in south london at the end of january. ezedps london at the end of january. ezedi's body was recovered from the river thames in february after a huge manhunt. it came after a huge manhunt. it came after his former partner, a mother of two, was doused with a corrosive chemical in a harrowing attack on her and her children, who were aged eight and three. one of the world's greatest tennis champions will

say, or ofwat after the paris olympics, andy murray has announced that this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on a spinal cyst just a week before the tournament began. in a post on social media, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to do it one final time. scotland's first ministerjohn scotland's first minister john swinney hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman . those greatest ever sportsman. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts .

>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:08. now let's return to that breaking news. it's been announced that the government will shut down the bibby stockholm barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england . england. >> this is all as part of its overhaul of the asylum system. so we're again joined in the studio by our home and security edhoh studio by our home and security editor, mark white, to talk us through this all. so, yes, the breaking line is that the bibby stockholm barge will no longer be used to house migrants. what happens next? >> i think, you know, this is a very significant development because we've got to set it, you know, in the context of what this government is doing, which is slowly but surely dismantling all of the apparatus that the previous government had in place to deal with the channel migrant crisis, the use of hotels, the use of the bibby stockholm or indeed raf scampton and wethersfield in essex . and this wethersfield in essex. and this is the first significant move in that direction, with the

confirmation that that barge, the bibby stockholm that's anchored down at portland harbour in dorset, will cease to operate from january of next yeah operate from january of next year. the contract that the previous government signed takes us up to january 2025. so from that point on, then it'll be cleared out. there's about 400 asylum seekers being held on the barge at the moment. and what we understand as well, although it's not been announced as yet, is that those bases at scampton in lincolnshire, wethersfield to former raf and us air base down in wethersfield, which is housing about 600 asylum seekers, will be next in line. >> okay, so we know that the new labour government doesn't want to use the bibby stockholm barge to use the bibby stockholm barge to house migrants. maybe not these raf bases as well. and they also want to clear the hotels. so i guess the big question that everyone wants to

know the answer to is where are they all going to go? >> this is the big emerging theme that i think people need to be aware of, of what the new government intends to do is to rapidly clear the asylum backlog, and by that we mean consider the asylum applications, those that they feel deserve asylum, get it ? feel deserve asylum, get it? those that don't. if they can be returned to their home country, they will. but we know that the majority of people coming across on the small boats are coming from countries where it's very difficult or impossible to return them to countries like iran or afghanistan or syria , so iran or afghanistan or syria, so iran or afghanistan or syria, so i think let me just read you a quote from the new border security and asylum minister, dame angela eagle. remember her? >> angela eagle wants a leadership candidate for her party. >> i've had a scrap with her previous labour government. well she's now taken up that

particular post. and i think this kind of makes it clear the direction of travel that the labour government appears to want to go on re asylum. she's saying with respond in response to the decision on the bibby stockholm. we are determined to restore order to the asylum system so that it operates swiftly, firmly and fairly and ensures the rules are properly enforced. the home secretary has set out plans to start clearing the asylum backlog and making savings on accommodation, which is running up vast bills for the taxpayer. now, there is no doubt it is costing an absolute arm and leg to keep asylum seekers not just in hotel accommodation but other related accommodation and the support costs over the next few years it's estimated at something between 30 and £40 billion. that's double the budget for the police service in england and wales, so you can

understand the what this government will double the police budget of england. >> wow, that's a lot of money. >> wow, that's a lot of money. >> all of the wrap around care that's required to accommodate asylum seekers, not just in hotels, but of course absorbed into the sort of local authority structure as well, where it becomes a responsibility of councils to accommodate these people, in council, local authority accommodation and, and, you know, social services accommodation. >> and yet what the labour party will be doing here is potentially a sugar rush clearing this backlog by granting asylum to, many, many tens of thousands of people, perhaps over 100,000 people, granted asylum in very, very short order. then what happens as the second stage? yes. okay hotels cleared. bibby stockholm cleared. raf scampton never operational . but what happens to operational. but what happens to then? the sign that this country effectively puts out into the

sky? anyone coming from iran, anyone coming from afghanistan, countries that we find it very hard to send people back to, if not impossible to send people back to. it's saying if you can get here in a small boat, you will be guaranteed asylum . will be guaranteed asylum. that's millions of people. >> yeah. and this is what i'm seeing in terms of, you know , seeing in terms of, you know, people i think need to be clear headed about the direction of travel that this new government is going in with regards to deaung is going in with regards to dealing with the asylum backlog. more quickly and ensuring that those that are granted asylum are granted asylum, those that can be removed or removed, and many that cannot be removed are still effectively allowed to remain here, either in, you know , remain here, either in, you know, temporary leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain. many, many people will be allowed to stay in the country. and the message that sends then, according to the critics of this

scheme from the government, will be that it's open season for the uk. come across the channel because you will get leave to remain at some point in the uk , remain at some point in the uk, actually a lot quicker than you would have under the conservative government. and thatis conservative government. and that is the concern that many critics of this new labour policy will have, that it's just going to act as a massive pull factor for many more people to make that dangerous crossing. >> and we're already number one or number two in, you know, the top destinations for illegal migrants within the eu. i was seeing some new statistics from them. >> it was a survey that was looking at, you know, the of the million and a half or whatever that came across europe's border, in the last year, the top destinations that these people wanted to get to were germany and the uk. >> it's fascinating. and i can see that in the short term, in

the short term, politically, what we'll see is the home secretary going from hotel to hotel, closing it down, marking up as this big win. look, we're getting rid of the migrant hotels . we're saving all of this hotels. we're saving all of this money. we're closing down the bibby stockholm. and i think a lot of people in local communities that have seen hotels be requisitioned will say , hotels be requisitioned will say, that's wonderful. hurray! look, we've solved migration, but all it will do is look into the longer term and what it is , is longer term and what it is, is looking at numbers that already people think are too high across the country as a whole. those numbers will go up and up and up. it'sjust numbers will go up and up and up. it's just we won't call them illegal. we'll call them legal. >> yeah . and as much as you know >> yeah. and as much as you know it is a net benefit to a community, especially smaller communities, to get the use of their hotel back and not to see 100 or 200 young male asylum seekers hanging about outside hotels . that, of course, will be hotels. that, of course, will be welcomed by many communities right up and down the country.

there's the other effect of that is that these people have to be absorbed. then into local authority care right across the country. and what does that mean? that means the likes of social housing, your council houses, other social housing will go probably top of the list to asylum seekers rather than people from the local population who might be desperate for that accommodation themselves. all kinds of other wraparound services will then be required to sustain these people are entitled to council housing in a way that economic migrants aren't that well. yes, indeed, thatis aren't that well. yes, indeed, that is often the way that, local authorities will operate is that they have an imperative to immediately house people who are coming , who are not just in are coming, who are not just in need of a better house and upgrade on a house, or struggling to pay the rent on this. they have no accommodation and they are being imported into

that area by the uk government. they then have to be put into accommodation as a priority. otherwise they're on the streets and we know how many tensions there are in some local communities over social housing as it is. >> but mark, thank you very much. it's such a privilege to have you here to sort of break down this stuff for us, because it is complicated and there's a lot of spin when it comes to migration statistics and what exactly is actually going on with government policy. so thank you. >> well, in other news, the bbc has published its annual report today revealing their biggest earners. >> and it is gary lineker once again the broadcaster's best paid presenter, taking home over a whopping £1.35 million each yeah >> but of course, the bbc's finances have taken a hit. half a million households cancelled their licence fee last year as their licence fee last year as the broadcaster struggles to keep younger audiences half a million in just one year. >> wow . former million in just one year. >> wow. former bbc head of religion and ethics aqeel ahmed joins us now. aqeel, thank you very much indeed forjoining us,

let's start with that. 500,000 fewer people taking out licences. that must be that's pretty stark. >> it is, i have to say i'm speaking here in a personal capacity, but actually, you're right. actually, the figures have been going down for quite some time, across all broadcasters, to be fair, in terms of their appeal to younger audiences. but with regards to the licence fee, i think it's i think, you know, nobody in the bbc is unaware of this. it's been going on for a few years now and you can start looking at whether or not, you know, the cuts, the cuts that have been made effectively in real terms to actually what the licence fee is because, you know, it's been it's been cut at a long point. it's not been able to increase for a number of years. plus they're not able to borrow against it, etc. you know, you're seeing the effects because there's not as many new programmes as as you as you would have seen in the past over the last few years. and if you look across all broadcasters, they're all struggling. and the fact of the matter is, any of us who know anybody under the age of 30 knows that the brand loyalty to anybody these days, particularly in broadcasting, is gone. particularly in broadcasting, is gone . streaming is what it's all

gone. streaming is what it's all about for many people these days. they don't really care about terrestrial television. and i think that's a bit of a shame, because obviously that curation means we have shared viewing, we have shared moments, whether it be strictly football sports, the olympics, and i think the 500,000 losing that kind of figure , you've got to kind of figure, you've got to ask yourself some serious questions about how do you resolve that, which i know they're trying to, but are they getting it right? >> i suppose isn't one of the obvious answers to here stop treating it like a tax and instead there are many young people who happily pay a subscription to netflix. >> there are many people who happily sign up to gb news membership if they want extra content online. there are lots of people who sign up to disney+ to amazon as well . why doesn't to amazon as well. why doesn't the bbc simply treat itself more like one of these membership or subscription services that then young people are so used to using on their computers, even if they don't have a tv in their flat ? flat? >> no, listen, i've got a lot of sympathy for that. i think that the licence fee as we know it today is, is a difficult thing today is, is a difficult thing to kind of it's a it's difficult

to kind of it's a it's difficult to kind of sell it to many people. the fact of the matter is it's not all just young people as well. remember, there are other people who are watching who are getting a lot from the bbc. the depending on where your age is, where you live in the country, etc. so it's a bit more complicated than just focusing on young people, but i completely understand the argument and agree with you, which is people approach things very differently now than they have done in the past. and even when we look at migration, we look at lots of different things, not just young people. they may look at the bbc and they may look at all terrestrial broadcasters, for that matter, and they say, what's in it for me? and remember as well, it's not the bbc's money as such. it's a licence fee to watch live transmitted programming, which the bbc is able to collect and spend. so it's not just for the bbc, it's for lots of other things. what they've got to do is actually what everybody's got to do is figure out a way of making it so that things work. the whole of the broadcasting ecology is in a mess right now. you know, we talk about streamers, but they're not making much money. you must remember that a lot of them are actually losing money. apple have announced in the last few days they're going to be

spending less money because they're not getting the viewers. netflix amazon. all these people have not made profit for many, many years. >> yeah, it's certainly a tricky environment. >> model is broken and that's the big issue. >> yeah it's certainly a tricky environment for all broadcasters i'm sure. but, just about gary lineker. i mean, does he really deserve 1.35 million? we're heanng deserve 1.35 million? we're hearing that 500 full time roles are going to be scrapped in the next two years, 1.35 million just for just for gary . just for just for gary. >> well, i mean, it's a difficult one this because obviously we know that there are more we don't know what some of the people are paid because they're paid by independent production companies. so it doesn't it doesn't register. whereas gary lineker is paid directly by the corporation. the question we have to ask ourselves is in the open market, do we think gary lineker is worth a lot more than that? it's all these things are completely subjective. i reckon he is, to be honest with you. i think he's a big draw. i think if you went down that list and i'm not going to give you the names if you asked me, but if you go down that list, i think there are people on there that you ask yourself on the open market. would they get snapped up as quickly as you think they are?

gary's not one of those. i think he would get snapped up. you look at the dearth of sports broadcasting around all the different broadcasters. he's not a bad shout, isn't he? he's pretty good. >> that's a that's a really good game to play, actually . would game to play, actually. would amazon pay them double what they're paid by the bbc? i mean to be honest, probably they would pay that to gary lineker. >> that's fine as long as you're not a champagne socialist tom. that's what's annoying isn't it? that's what's annoying isn't it? that's what's annoying isn't it? that's what we all find annoying. >> i mean would would amazon pay that much to zoe ball? >> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. >> i'm just i'm just putting the question there anyway . thank you question there anyway. thank you so much, akil ahmed , former bbc so much, akil ahmed, former bbc head of religion and ethics, really appreciate your time and your thoughts. >> and speaking in a personal capacity of course. thank you very much, it's just i think thatis very much, it's just i think that is what annoys me, because it's not that he's paid this much money, which, okay, is irritating because we all pay for it. we all fund it. but it's because he's always, you know. yeah being all grandstanding about morals and all of that. >> and it's in some ways i can appreciate people who leave the bbc go and work somewhere

independent. their wings, and then they can have opinions. that's fine. that's that's the beauty of a pluralist media landscape. absolutely but while you're at the bbc just doesn't sit right , just doesn't sit sit right, just doesn't sit right. >> let us know what you think, anyway, coming up, as kamala harris wins enough support to cunch harris wins enough support to clinch the democratic nomination, nigel farage has spoken out. he's warned it would be potty to vote purely on the bafis be potty to vote purely on the basis that she is a woman. on that

>> good afternoon. britain. it's 2:27. now, kamala harris has received the support of enough delegates now to clinch that democrat party nomination in november's presidential election. they meet in august. of course, that means she'll almost certainly face off donald trump. >> yes. well, we're joined by gb

news reporter ray addison ray. bnng news reporter ray addison ray. bring us up to date. >> well, she's got those, verbal endorsements 2500 or so. the cap that she needs to get to is just under 2000. so that's looking pretty good. but the left is starting to eat itself right now, so black lives matter is demanding that the dnc, the democratic national committee, immediately hosts a nationwide virtual primary, a snap primary whereby she would then be endorsed or not endorsed by the various delegates and the people in the states across the us. they're saying this is not an attack on kamala harris or black women, but they describe her as an unknown vice president . they an unknown vice president. they say they have no idea what issues she stands on. and they want public participation. >> ray, let me get this right. black lives matter are now organising against the first black woman to ever likely receive the democrat or any

major presidential ticket nomination. and they're not happy. >> that is exactly correct. black lives matter is not happy with harris. they're saying what they've said is fair enough, isn't it? >> we don't want to endorse you just because you're a black woman. we want to find out more about you. well, but yes, it is quite funny. >> they're saying this will protect the integrity of democracy in the us, and they say the voices of black voters as well, to make sure that they're heard. but and they're accusing what they describe as dnc party elites. and billionaires of bullying joe biden out of the presidential race. so that's that's kind of the latest situation. i think it's quite interesting that as she gets this sort of wave of endorsements within 48 hours or less, that, you know , the left less, that, you know, the left is now starting to sort of consume itself. and she's considered to be fairly left, you know, on the on the left side, she backs universal health care in the, in the primaries, four years ago, before she was swept under the wing of joe biden. that's it. but they're

saying they don't know that much about her. you know, the thing is, you know, for all that joe biden and the dnc is now trying to promote her as the, you know , to promote her as the, you know, the candidate. and she's fantastic. you know , she's been fantastic. you know, she's been hidden away quite a lot because biden didn't have a lot of faith in her. you know, they were saying that that's one of the reasons it took so long for him to actually issue that statement and drop out because he wasn't convinced that she could beat trump. she's told us some of her key, some of the key policies that she'll be standing on. she wants to sign laws to protect abortion rights. she wants to ban assault rifles in the us, and she also wants to rebuild the middle class. so those are some of the policies. but a lot of people just don't really know who she is or what she stands for. >> and how much influence does a group like black lives matter have on the democrats? i mean, could it be that they're actually listened to on this? well, i think obviously they certainly do have have influence. >> and i think you know, the democrats are have been accused in the past of overly pandering to sort of more left wing groups and, you know, allowing some of

these sort of instances of rioting and so forth that we've seen in the past, depending upon which group was carrying out that sort of action. however, i think we're on a bit of a juggernaut here in its head. the destination is kamala for president. that's, you know, that's the destination we're going. i don't think this will stop anything. >> i remember during the primary elections that joe biden ended up winning. of course, he had a bit of a stuttering start to these primary elections. four years ago, kamala could never get any momentum for her campaign . she dropped out before campaign. she dropped out before a single vote was cast in any of those primary elections, because the right thought that she was too left wing. and then the left pointed to her record as being the chief prosecutor for california. when she locked people up for drug offences and locked all sorts of people up in long prison sentences . and at long prison sentences. and at a time when people were saying defund the police, prison should be abolished. she didn't ignite the left either. so she sort of got squeezed out from both

sides. so it's odd now that the establishment democratic party has poured in behind her, not just with delegates, but with money. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, obviously the biden—harris campaign and all the funds that they had were pledged to him, but also to her because she was going to be his running mate. so the easiest solution for them, rather than lose all that cash, was to keep, keep going. they've just simply rebranded the twitter, the ex—social account, by the way, from, you know , by the way, from, you know, biden—harris or whatever it was to harris hq. so it's just, you know, it's just a sort of a whitewashing sort of process, rebranding. >> so, so perhaps if you're going to be very cynical about this, how many decisions has joe biden actually being taken as president over the last 12 months? there will be senior advisers. there'll be people behind the scenes who, frankly, have been running the country, especially after the hour of 6 pm, when apparently biden really switches off, i heard four, 4:00, quite, quite busy. but, in that case, it will be

the same people. >> yeah, in terms of, in terms of policies, i mean, one of the things when we all became very concerned, i mean, there's been concerns for a long time, but when we saw that debate performance and people became increasingly concerned about his abilities, one of the things that they pushed alongside that whole , oh, he's he's immensely whole, oh, he's he's immensely sharp. he's intensely focused narrative was there's a whole group of people who are involved in the running of government. it's a team. whereas, you know, you would think that they would say, no, this guy's in charge. he's he's really running things . he's he's really running things. so maybe that part of that team was harris . that's certainly was harris. that's certainly what donald trump is trying to say. now. he's trying to say biden has not been in charge. harris has been doing it. and she's now responsible. >> well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. ray addison gb news reporter. of course, it'll be interesting to see what happens, whether there will be any surprises. >> yeah. if there's going to be any last minute challenge, although it seems like the numbers are sewn up. well, coming up, we're going to be getting your views on all of these topics covered today. so get typing gbnews.com forward slash yoursay. that's after your headunes slash yoursay. that's after your headlines with sophia .

headlines with sophia. >> tom thank you. good afternoon. it's 233. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. islamist preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he directed the al—muhajiroun group for a significant period of time, starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of the islamic thinkers society. dominic murphy is head of counterterrorism for the metropolitan police. he says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem chowdhury has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chowdhury and of course his group al—muhajiroun are

proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk , will will help us to manage uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety . but of course, public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . significant milestone. >> in other news, the government will shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm barge, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. human rights campaigners have compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane. in the us, attention is turning to who kamala harris may pick as her running mate, as she asserts herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. surveys suggest she's now secured more than enough delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, giving

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>> well. good afternoon. britain. it is now 239. and the commons speaker lindsay hoyle has spared some blushes for prime minister keir starmer. >> yes. hoyle has chosen to not select that backbench labour rebellious motion , proposing to rebellious motion, proposing to scrap the two child limit on benefits. >> yes. so instead of selecting a red on red scrap, he's selected a similar motion , but selected a similar motion, but from the snp. >> well, will those rebellious

labour mps be as comfortable voting for an snp motion or will tonight's showdown be a damp squib? i hasten to suggest that some of those who would be very to happy vote for the labour mp kim johnson's amendment will think twice about voting for an snp amendment. and it might it might mute it might, sort of dampen the scale of the rebellion tonight. >> yes. because it would be more, it's more of a rebellious action for a rebel to vote for another party's amendment, i imagine. >> yeah, i can see what the what the whips will be saying throughout this afternoon as we're talking now, they'll be saying, oh, you don't really want to be backing the snp, do you? you don't want to be bolstering their political ambitions, whereas if it was a labour motion, they'll be able to say for example, well, no, i just want to do the proper labour thing. it's harder to argue this now that this is the amendment that has been selected. >> but i just wonder, i mean, this vote tonight. yes, it may be a damp squib because it's not

a labour motion. and yes, because keir starmer has such a strong majority. but i do wonder if in a year or two, three years down the line that this policy will be implemented, i.e. they will be implemented, i.e. they will scrap that two child benefit cap. i mean, because there's a lot of pressure from there's a lot of pressure from the left on this issue, a lot of pressure from some opposition parties, it's almost as though there's a growing consensus. i mean, you've had nigel farage speaking about it. you've had suella braverman also surprisingly saying that they should scrap that limit. their position seems to be that, we need people to be having more babies. and if this benefit helps, people have more babies and contributes to people growing their families, then fantastic. i'm not sure it's child benefit . that is the key child benefit. that is the key deciding factor in whether you have more children or not. i just don't believe it is. >> but i think you're right in to say that there's this sort of momentum in this and it won't happen tonight, but look at what gordon brown has said on it. look at what andy burnham has said on it. in fact, the leader

of the scottish labour party, anas sarwar, also backs the change. it won't happen this yeah change. it won't happen this year, but i can easily see the labour party a couple of years down the line saying, look, we fixed the economy and therefore we're going to scrap this cap. >> i just wish when we spoke about the cost of living that we actually spoke more about measures to try and bring that down, rather than always looking to expand the welfare state. money doesn't come from anywhere. you're just moving it around. you're just moving it around. you're just moving it around from one tax payer to another . why don't we try around from one tax payer to another. why don't we try and, you know, bring down the cost of housing and the like without just subsidies? >> well , let's talk about these >> well, let's talk about these political political machinations now with our political correspondent katherine forster. catherine perhaps a bit of a bit of a lifeline for the prime minister there from the speaker. >> yes, indeed. because this is the first real potential rebellion . and, of course, sir rebellion. and, of course, sir lindsay hoyle has not selected the labour amendment. that's not surprising, really, that that would it wouldn't normally get

selected, but the snp amendment and the lib dem amendments have been selected. so it will be very interesting to see how many labour mps, of course, as a working majority of 181, how many of them will will go against the official line because many of them are very, very upset by this policy. because many of them are very, very upset by this policy . they very upset by this policy. they feel that it was cruel. we've had people like rosie duffield, in the sunday times at the weekend. also, people like john mcdonnell, who of course was shadow chancellor under jeremy corbyn, people like diane abbott, the mother of the house, also expected to rebel . but of also expected to rebel. but of course, it all comes down to money because the estimated cost of lifting that cap from the first two children that's born after 2015, when george osborne introduced it, is estimated to

be about 3.4 billion a year now. yes. it said that it would lift about half a million children out of poverty straight away. and we do have something like 4 million children living in poverty in this country. but the government has made it clear that there's not much money. the chancellor, rachel reeves, has said that they won't do anything which isn't fully costed. and the prime minister's spokesman at lunchtime saying that the position has not changed and that basically the chancellor has found out that the public finances are even worse than labour imagined. that's something that paul johnson from the institute for fiscal studies said would absolutely not wash for a new government to come in and say that things were even worse because the books were all open. but lo and behold, they are saying that. so i don't think they're going to budge on

this for now. but as you say, it might well happen down the line. >> yes, the ifs already saying that, these touted 5.5% pay rise for public sector workers will have to be funded by taxes and borrowing. so there you go, catherine. thank you very much indeed. our political correspondent live from westminster , it's very difficult westminster, it's very difficult to make the sums add up, isn't it? >> or you could just find some spending to cut . i mean, it spending to cut. i mean, it seems that no politician has ever thought of potentially cutting in. what would you cutting? i think i genuinely think that we need to have a conversation about increasing the amount of money that is transferred from taxpayers to millionaires who have retired. i think if you're a millionaire who has retired, you should operations. you shouldn't necessarily be receiving , money necessarily be receiving, money from taxpayers, >> you're bringing up the state pension. >> well, i think i think that if you're a millionaire, should you be getting, more than you put

into the system? you should be getting what you put into the system, potentially back. but more than that, should you ? more than that, should you? >> i don't contributed a lot in tax throughout the years. well, i said a millionaire. >> now, i said, if you've if you've put what you've put into the system, i think you can have a strong argument about your national insurance contributions. i don't think you can talk about the amount, though, that now is, is going that's going to i personally don't think that i'm going to get as, as juicy a state pension as people do today. >> no . and you don't deserve one >> no. and you don't deserve one ehheh >> no. and you don't deserve one either. probably not. anyway, coming up, we're outside london broadcasting house as the bbc publishes its annual report revealing their biggest owners. stay tuned for that

right. we finally got their views, jack says cancelling the rwanda scheme , which has cost rwanda scheme, which has cost the uk taxpayers £700 million. that's what yvette cooper says.

and now the stockholm barge, at £20 million, just shows that the labour tories and lib dems are not fit to govern. this is a prime example where procurement is not getting the best value for the uk taxpayer. yes i'm always astonished by just how expensive these things are. how on earth would the bibby stockholm barge cost? £20 million? >> i imagine most of that went on. lawyers. >> my crazy, isn't it? >> my crazy, isn't it? >> i mean, susan says this is about the bbc because this report into the top earners and she says, i was going to i was going to leave the bbc licence, but in their terms and conditions stated that i would not be able to get over 500 other channels, including sky, netflix , prime, etc. so netflix, prime, etc. so i stopped the cancelling. i love your! stopped the cancelling. i love your i love your shows. and as for mr lineker's wages, is ridiculous. >> well, it's true. the bbc licence fee is a licence to watch live television. so if you want to watch live television on your television, you have to pay for the bbc. it's a, it's a bizarre system that made sense when people got all their television through the airwaves and there was no way to make it

excludable. but now that people can get television through little, little wires and fibre optic cables, that is excludable and nick says, is the cull of 500 bbc staff really worth it to protect political presenter gary lineker's salary ? lineker's salary? >> surely the needs of the many outweigh the need of one prima donna? well, i'm not sure it would cover. i'm not sure his salary would cover all those 500 jobs, but i take your point. >> well, anne has written in to say happy birthday , emily. hope say happy birthday, emily. hope you have a great day. >> thank you very much , anne. i >> thank you very much, anne. i will have a lovely day. >> i have to say, we opened this cake at the beginning of the show, and. oops, it's half gone. >> this is tuck into it at about 230. >> i start getting a little bit hungry. >> that's why we need the energy. >> we need the energy boost. you know, there's trouble with doing a lunchtime show, >> anyway, martin daubney is up next, and he joins us now. martin, what's coming up from three? >> well, happy birthday, emily. happy birthday to you. but it won't be good. tidings to the people living near the bibby

stockholm barge. >> i'm going to explain today why this is a disaster for working class britain. >> not in my backyard, says the government. also on the call to be axed is raf wethersfield, raf scampton locals. there will be delighted that 1500 asylum seekers aren't being dumped in their community, but with hotels and rwanda also off the bill, what's left ? the answer is your what's left? the answer is your town, your street . serco on town, your street. serco on steroids angela rayner laid out the plans. every constituency must take its fair share. we can see the direction of travel for asylum seekers. the numbers aren't going down. illegal immigration, the numbers aren't going down. the solution is to disperse them across your communities. are we setting out why? i think that's a disaster for working class britain and also starmer nomics we see it now. the true cost £10 billion is the estimated cost of public sector pay rises £3 billion per year for the two child cap to be

scrapped. that's 10 billion times that. add other stuff by the course of this parliament. that's £70 billion a year. there's only one way that's going to get paid for extra taxation . could starmer nomics taxation. could starmer nomics be a disaster for you? plus, also we'll be looking at brexit britain. rachel reeves yesterday said you've inherited the worst situation since world war two. well, another exclusive report on gb news shows that's not the case.in on gb news shows that's not the case. in fact, on gdp on inflation and unemployment, the uk brexit britain is outperforming the beloved european union. that's all coming 3 to 6, >> looking forward to seeing it. martin, i have to say, do you think that this plan from the labour party will work as you say , there will be many say, there will be many communities who say, look, no more migrants in this hotel, no more migrants in this hotel, no more migrants in this hotel, no more migrants in this barge, no more migrants in this barge, no more migrants in this barge, no more migrants at this raf field. and instead, they'll be dispersed , perhaps in less dispersed, perhaps in less concentrated areas, less visible areas. is that a political ploy ?

areas. is that a political ploy? >> i'm afraid i can't hear you, but anyway, i'm sure that was amazing. >> we'll have to listen to you instead from 3:00. >> looking forward to it. >> looking forward to it. >> i think he'd probably say it is. yeah. yes, i think he'd probably say what's going to happen with all the social housing and the like. there could be quite a lot of. yeah issues. yeah. >> well, at least we have to say it's a very special programme from us tomorrow. we're not going to be at this desk. instead, we're going to be at westminster for keir starmer's first ever prime minister's questions. we'll be watching it alongside you and dissecting it afterwards as well . rishi sunak afterwards as well. rishi sunak versus keir starmer, but not as you know it . you know it. >> very excited. i will lay off the birthday cocktail sir. maybe a couple, maybe a couple. i need to be, bright eyed and bushy tailed for that one. see you there tomorrow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb

news . news. >> welcome along to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news for most, it's a fine day out there. just a sprinkling of showers around. we're kind of between weather systems. one is pulling away to the east, another one is approaching, but in between a little bump in the isobars, a little bump in the isobars, a little ridge of high pressure, which is, as i say, bringing most of us a fine day. i've seen some wet weather earlier today over the midlands and the south east that's scooting away. still 1 or 2 showers across kent this afternoon and a sprinkling of showers further north, but many areas dry and fine. some good spells of sunshine across northern ireland, brightening up to across wales western side of scotland, up to 20 degrees across the southeast could touch up to 25 c. 2021 in edinburgh there will be a few scattered showers across the grampians and extending down over the southern uplands come the afternoon, but most places here dry, so plenty of sunshine on the west coast. slightly cooler for you here, perhaps, but plenty of sunshine

too. for northern ireland. a fine end to the day. the sunshine may start to turn a little hazy here. 1 or 2 showers developing over the pennines, and still the odd one across east anglia and the south—east. this afternoon, but the vast majority staying dry and fine into this evening with some late sunshine to be enjoyed as we go through the night. not a great deal of change. i think the showers will fade through the evening so most will have a dry night. some lengthy clear spells, not much in the way of mist and fog either. it will be quite a warm night actually. temperatures not dipping away too far. most towns and cities holding up in the teens, certainly across the south, 11 or 12 further north on to wednesday and again for many areas, it's a fine day. we are going to see that next weather system just increasing the cloud from the west. so it will be a duller day for northern ireland. the cloud thickening here, and we'll see outbreaks of rain trickling in during the afternoon, a little bit of that patchy rain just getting into west wales, southwest england and southwest scotland late in the day. 1 or 2 showers elsewhere across scotland, but many places dry and warm again

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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> a very, very good afternoon to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. on today's show, after scrapping the rwanda bill on day one. today, the labour party has dramatically axed the bibby stockholm or asylum seeker camps at raf scampton and raf wethersfield next for the chop, but with no signs of illegal immigration coming down any time soon. where will they all be housed? could they be coming to a street near you? next up ,

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