>> well . >> well. >> well. >> a very, very good afternoon to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. on today's show, after scrapping the rwanda bill on day one. today, the labour party has dramatically axed the bibby stockholm or asylum seeker camps at raf scampton and raf wethersfield next for the chop, but with no signs of illegal immigration coming down any time soon. where will they all be housed? could they be coming to a street near you? next up , a street near you? next up, islamist hate preacher anjem

chowdhury is facing life in jail after being found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. chowdhury, who once boasted he was the number one radicalised in britain, will be sentenced a week today and the bbc has published its annual fatcat salary list and no surprises once again. gary lineker as top of the table on £1.35 million every year. but huw edwards, who didn't even work last year due to suspension. he also trousered a 40 grand pay rise on the back of all this. is it time to scrap the bbc licence fee? and that's all coming in your next hour? welcome to the show. i just i think this afternoon we've seen a massive direction of travel, of where the labour party is. asylum seeker programme is going, baby. stockholm scrapped , going, baby. stockholm scrapped, rwanda scrapped. raf wethersfield and scampton.

they're under review. i predict they'll be scrapped. they're scrapping the hotel idea. what's left? the answer is housing. social housing or houses near you. could we be looking at serco on steroids ? angela rayner serco on steroids? angela rayner promised that every constituency would have to take its fair share of asylum seekers. is today's announcement on the bibby stockholm, a sure fire giveaway that will be the case? big topic to discuss throughout the show. get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay. but before we get kicked off is your headunes we get kicked off is your headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. at 3:02, your top story this houn at 3:02, your top story this hour, the government will shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm, which can house up to 500 men, began under the

conservative government. but human rights campaigners compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane, extending the use of the bibby stockholm would have cost more than £20 million next year. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he directed the group for a significant period starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support at online meetings of the islamic thinkers society. dominic murphy is head of counter—terrorism for the metropolitan police. he says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk, in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chaudry and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help us to manage public

safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . milestone. >> meanwhile, in the us, attention is turning to who kamala harris may pick as her running mate as she asserts herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around 81 million usd. just a day after president biden dropped out. it comes as party members and supporters commend mr biden's decision, including the actor george clooney, who said he'd saved democracy back in the uk. a police officer has been stabbed in the chest at a prison. the officer is conscious and talking in hospital following the incident, which happened this morning at frankland prison. that's according to durham police. he was visiting the category a

men's prison from an outside force . now water companies will force. now water companies will be expected to do far more to protect the health of britain's waterways when new powers are given to the regulator. the environment secretary says a promised crackdown on water firms will include tougher fines for polluting and ensuring money is properly invested into infrastructure rather than paid out in bonuses. the environment agency reported 47 serious pollution incidents last year, up from 44 in 2022. steve reed says that's unacceptable. >> it would cost hundreds of billions of pounds to nationalise the water companies, and it would take years to unravel the common ownership models. >> i want to crack on and clean up the water as fast as we can. thatis up the water as fast as we can. that is best done by giving the regulator the power, the teeth they need to stop these practices , and that includes the practices, and that includes the powers to make water bosses responsible for illegal pollution, face criminal charges

for the law breaking for which they are responsible . they are responsible. >> james cleverly has told gb news that would be illegal. migrants were praying for a labour government because it would mean the end of the rwanda plan . the shadow home secretary plan. the shadow home secretary said the government had behaved in an arrogant manner, accusing them of tearing up the conservatives migrant plan without informing rwanda. his comments come as the tories set out a timeline for confirming a replacement for rishi sunak as the party's leader. but mr cleverly says for now, his focus is elsewhere. >> well, i've always believed that you should do the jobs that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do in the order that you need to do them. so nominations open tomorrow, so thoughts and activities about the leadership of the party in my mind, start tomorrow. today's work is about making sure that i discharge my duty as a shadow home secretary. i'll be at the despatch box later on today holding the new home secretary to account .

to account. >> police investigating disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've made a total of 20 arrests. the riots are believed to have been linked to a case involving local children who were taken into care . vehicles were taken into care. vehicles could be seen on fire while a police car was also overturned. west yorkshire police say the fast paced investigation continues and they've identified 40 suspects. one of the world's greatest tennis champions will say au revoir after the paris olympics. andy murray has announced that this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on a spinal cyst just a week before the tournament began. in a post on social media, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to do it one final time. scotland's first ministerjohn scotland's first minister john swinney, hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman . those greatest ever sportsman. those are the latest gb news headlines

for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your phone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> and au revoir sofia. now we begin with the huge news that the government will end the use of the bibby stockholm barge for housing migrants off england's south coast as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. the contract for the barge moored in dorset will not be renewed past january, as demand for such accommodation will be reduced by moves to clear the asylum backlog, as announced by the home office. the vessel was one of several sites, including the military bases raf wethersfield in essex and of course , raf scampton in course, raf scampton in lincolnshire, used by the previous tory government in a

bid to cut the cost of housing migrants in hotels. and we're joined now by our home and security editor, mark white. mark, welcome to the show. so rwanda scrapped on day one. the bibby stockholm scraps huge question marks over raf wethersfield and scampton. that in itself, mark poses huge questions. immigration isn't coming down. asylum isn't coming down. illegal immigration isn't coming down. this problem isn't going away . they've just all going away. they've just all just basically solved where they're going to deal with it. but the problem hasn't gone. >> no, i think this is the clearest indication yet of the direction of travel of the new labour government when it comes to dealing with the asylum crisis. rwanda well, that's one thing, of course. the, the, the decision to not put people over to rwanda as part of a deterrent to rwanda as part of a deterrent to try to stop boats coming across the channel, actually

deaung across the channel, actually dealing with the asylum problem here in the backlog in this country. the fact that the, bibby stockholm is no longer going to operate to house these asylum seekers from january of next year when that contract is up for renewal. and the fact we think, in the coming weeks or months that the government is also going to announce that raf scampton , up in lincolnshire, scampton, up in lincolnshire, and the former raf base at wethersfield in essex, will also no longer house asylum seekers, gives you an indication of what this government is planning to do. and that is to clear the asylum backlog, to stop putting people into accommodation like these larger scale accommodation centres. and of course , the many centres. and of course, the many hundreds of hotels that have been requisitioned for use by asylum seekers by the conservative government over recent years, which has seen a

bill of some £8 million a year being put towards asylum accommodation. the new government says this is no longer acceptable, but the way of dealing with it is to rapidly, go through these asylum applications so that they're taking people out of asylum accommodation by either granting them asylum or if not granting them asylum or if not granting them asylum, removing them to their country of origin if they can. but we know that the vast majority of people coming over in small boats are actually coming from countries where it's incredibly difficult to return them to like iran or iraq or syria or afghanistan. so with those people, what you do is they get, interim leave to remain and then probably permanent leave to remain after that indefinite leave to remain. it's called, and they are effectively people that have

been granted asylum anyway, and they are absorbed into the wider community. so that's the that's the clear policy stated policy of the government going forward. martin. >> mark, you've absolutely nailed it. angela rayner said on the 26th of june, every part of britain will take their fair share of migrants mark white this is the clearest indication yet if there are no barges , if yet if there are no barges, if there are no airfields, if there are no hotels, the only thing left is housing, either to build housing or to hoover up cheap housing or to hoover up cheap housing to stick them in a community. coming to you soon, indeed. >> and another statement from a government minister that just backs up what you're saying there this time comes from the new border security and asylum minister, dame angela eagle mp. remember her from the previous labour government back in there at the home office, and she said in response to the decision not

to renew the bibby stockholm contract, that it would save £20 million over the next year. and she said we are determined to restore to order the asylum system so that it operates swiftly. the operative word there swiftly, firmly and fairly and ensures that the rules are properly enforced and then goes on to say the home secretary has set out plans to start clearing the asylum backlog and making savings on accommodation , which savings on accommodation, which is running up vast bills to the taxpayer. so that is it. the clearest indication yet of what the labour government wants to do, which is clear, the asylum backlog, get them out of that interim accommodation, which is so upsetting . people all across so upsetting. people all across the country , understandably so, the country, understandably so, when hundreds of hotels are taking an out of service for local communities that will now , local communities that will now, at some point in the near

future, we think end and these hotels will be returned to the local community that will be welcomed on the one hand, but the flip side of that is these many thousands of people who've beenin many thousands of people who've been in the hotels are, as you just mentioned, going to have to be absorbed into the local community, into local authority care, local authorities right up and down the country will now have to take responsibility for these individuals. have to take responsibility for these individuals . and what will these individuals. and what will that mean? that will mean that these people will have to be given the likes of social housing, social housing that is increasingly being denied to local people and local communities will be even more scarce in the months ahead . scarce in the months ahead. >> mark white succinctly person, i think this is the problem that hasn't been solved. it's merely a problem that's been moved. thank you very much. mark white superb summary. as ever, i can now get the view of the no to the barge campaigner kate robson. kate, welcome to the

show. let's. kate, let's start with the with the good news. no doubt. you must be delighted today to learn that the bibby stockholm will no longer be housing asylum seekers in your neighbourhood. is kate robson there ? hello there? hello >> hi. >> hi. kate >> hi. kate robson. >> hi. kate robson. yeah, >> hi. kate robson. yeah, i >> hi. kate robson. yeah, i was just saying. so let's start with the good news, you must be delighted. after months and months of campaigning, months and months of protesting peacefully in a respectful manner, you must be delighted that the barge isn't going ahead. let's start with the good news in your community first, kate robson. >> i mean, well, kate robson. >> i mean, well , absolutely, >> i mean, well, absolutely, ecstatic. but mired. it's bittersweet because you know, you've there is no plan b. so at the end of the day, the bibby stockholm was completely untenable on paper based on cost alone , we were looking at alone, we were looking at £54,000 per migrant annually to keep one on there. you know, that's what a family of four

salary. i mean, it was just completely untenable. it was a it's a treacherous use of taxpayers money, i think the fact that labour have shut down the bibby stockholm , they've the bibby stockholm, they've seemed to have made an awful lot of decisions that just seem to be asserting their power , and be asserting their power, and some of those decisions are questionable. and it feels to me that they're not thinking about the fall out down the line. and like you said, where are these people going to go? they're going to be processed. and this is great news for our town that the bibby is going, but it's also good news for those migrants that are perhaps on the french coast that are awaiting to come over because they now know that they're going to face a much better chance of being processed more quickly and gaining asylum in the uk, just for example, in dorset we have 10,000 people on the housing list. we have families gnarled up in the b&b system, you know, 4 or 5 people in a room, some families don't actually have cooking facilities , and they

cooking facilities, and they have to vacate their rooms between about 11:00 and 3:00 dunng between about 11:00 and 3:00 during the day , our level of during the day, our level of living standards is, is being pushed further and further down. and it's all to do with capacity. it's basic maths, labouris capacity. it's basic maths, labour is saying they're going to build a million and a half houses, but how are we going to service those houses? we don't have the infrastructure, we don't have the gp's, we don't have the waterworks for a start, i was absolutely horrified yesterday to hear that, you know, large developers have been given the go ahead to build houses and then sort the sewerage works out afterwards . i sewerage works out afterwards. i mean, it just seems to me that the decisions are being made not in the interests of the british people , and we need a huge reset, people, and we need a huge reset, the bibby stockholm is just it was a tiny, tiny, you know, a fraction of the problem. it was put . put. >> kate, if i can if i can interject. kate. what always struck me as a deep irony about

the situation around the bibby stockholm is that both yourselves as locals and the so called anti—racists who turned up oftentimes not from your community, but from outside activists , you agreed on one activists, you agreed on one thing, and that was the huge strain placed on communities by a large number of asylum seekers being dumped upon them. and yet, today's decision doesn't solve the root cause of that, does it? kate robson it just moves the issue. if we're getting rid of raf bases, which looks likely scrapping hotels also talked about bibby stockholm now history. angela rayner said every part of britain will take its fair share of migrants. there's a huge there's a very strong chance that while you may not be getting asylum seekers in a barge in your community, you might instead be getting them in cheap housing paid for by the taxpayer. >> yeah, absolutely. and how do you prioritise people? you know, i've just you know, we know that there's people really struggling in this area, i think, you know,

the government prior has obviously put this bibby stockholm there to act as a deterrent. and actually, you know, they it's absolutely fine. they had they have a pretty good quality of life on there. and, quite a lot of, you know , quite a lot of, you know, voluntary services, which, which was costing an awful lot of money. and the disparity in the town compared to some of the local community that are struggling to put hand—to—mouth and relying on food banks is absolutely abhorrent. and what you mean, what we what we have to realise is when these guys are given asylum, they then have the right to bring over their immediate family. you know, potentially children , wives, potentially children, wives, parents even. and then it's all extra pressure on our services. and i just cannot see a means to an end, i really i don't know what the long term thoughts are. i don't know how they're going to , i guess, give everybody the to, i guess, give everybody the right level of standard of

living without, you know , there living without, you know, there doesn't seem to be any transparency as what the end game is , and you just can't keep game is, and you just can't keep adding to a population without improving the infrastructure because there's only few things that we rely on as human beings. and that's security, healthcare and stability. and none of that is a given anymore . is a given anymore. >> okay. kate robson , thank you >> okay. kate robson, thank you very much. as you said, i think that was succinctly put, a bittersweet message. the no to the barge campaigner kate robson. bibby stockholm won't go aheadin robson. bibby stockholm won't go ahead in your town, but doesn't necessarily get to the root of the problem. thank you very much. now let's cross live to the house of commons, where nigel farage has been speaking, not live, but he was speaking earlier . earlier. >> i call nigel farage to make his maiden speech. >> mr deputy speaker, thank you very much indeed. i believe it's customary in a maiden speech to pay customary in a maiden speech to pay tribute to your predecessor, which i am very happy to do . which i am very happy to do. giles watling, a very decent,

nice , honourable man, former nice, honourable man, former actor wears his garrick club tie. nothing even vaguely conservative about him but a jolly nice chap. and it was a clean fought campaign. the right honourable member for holland and south deepings earlier made reference to clacton as being the place for a traditional engush the place for a traditional english seaside holiday, and indeedit english seaside holiday, and indeed it is , with its pier and indeed it is, with its pier and its miles of sandy beaches and its miles of sandy beaches and its arcades. and perhaps it's not the holiday that's as popular as it used to be. now that people go to spain and elsewhere , but it's still there. elsewhere, but it's still there. there are other parts of the constituency that are genteel , constituency that are genteel, quite wealthy, but if we go to places like jaywick, we find the most deprived community in the whole of the united kingdom . whole of the united kingdom. those communities have little faith or trust or belief that government can make their lives better. indeed, what i found

knocking on doors were people saying, we want to work, we want to get on. we want to make money. but as soon as we work for 16 hours a week or more, our benefits get taken away. we're better off staying on benefits. and i have to say, i feel immensely sorry for people who the benefit system, which is designed to help them, is actually keeping them trapped in levels of relative poverty. so i will do my best as the mp for the area to bring business investment, private money into the constituency with jobs and training and skills. i can't promise that i'll do it, but i will do my absolute damnedest to make it happen. now, it's funny because i spent nearly 21 years as a member of the european parliament in brussels and with its monthly journey to strasbourg and i have to say, this place is very different indeed. this place is very different indeed . it's smaller. there is indeed. it's smaller. there is not a chauffeur driven mercedes

available for each member, no large lump sums of money which you don't have to spend on anything and show no receipts for. and i wonder whether perhaps that's why so many in the british political system seem to adore the european union. so much, because it is a rather wonderful place to work. what i perhaps didn't expect was to come here and to find that i'm more outnumbered with my reform team , more outnumbered reform team, more outnumbered here than we were in the european parliament, because there are more supporters of brexit in the european parliament than i sense there are in this parliament of 2024. this is very much a remainers parliament. i suspect in many cases it's really a rejoiners parliament. but the other issue, andifs parliament. but the other issue, and it's very interesting as we debate the king's speech, if you look at the speech itself , the look at the speech itself, the

word immigration is mentioned only twice and asylum just once. and perhaps this is not a surprise, as when sir keir starmer laid out the six big priorities for the general election for the labour party, he didn't mention legal or illegal immigration. and that's the other area in which i think the other area in which i think the five of us sitting over here are going to find ourselves massively outnumbered in this house, is because we actually do want to talk about these issues. you see, i believe that the population explosion is having the biggest impact on the quality of life of ordinary folk than any other issue. it all started, of course, when the current home secretary became a member of parliament back in may 97th. and it's worth reminding ourselves that net migration was

the same during the late 1940s. the whole of the 1950s, the whole of the 1960s, the whole of the 1970s, the whole of the 19805 the 1970s, the whole of the 1980s and the 1990s up until mr blair. net migration had run at 30 to 50,000 a year for over half a century. then mr blair gets in and decides we're going to open the doors in a way that had never been done before, to the delight and joy of big companies and especially giant multinationals, who have always wanted, as much cheap labour as they can get. and to hell with they can get. and to hell with the consequences for working class families and people. but perhaps it was even more of a surprise to see that that massive acceleration in our population through immigration would then buy a conservative party who, despite promises in four consecutive manifestos , four consecutive manifestos, actually accelerate what had

happened under the years of mr blair. and so we see a population increase of 10 million people since that time that labour won its last landslide. even the net figure is a migrant a minute. even dunng is a migrant a minute. even during the course of this debate, many hundreds more people will come to our country and nobody is making the argument that there aren't some exceptionally wonderful people among them. there are, of course , among them. there are, of course, but the sheer level of population means we have to build a new house every two minutes, even if the labour government is able to fulfil the 1.5 million houses that it wants to build during the lifetime of this parliament, it will make no dent at all on the current shortage of housing rents have risen by 25% since 2021. why population increase and pressure and the list goes on through access to health services to

congestion, to pressure on infrastructure. the population crisis is the biggest impact affecting people's lives, damaging their quality of life and virtually nobody in this place even wants to talk about it. but perhaps it's on illegal immigration that i do really want to make a point. four years ago i went out into the english channel repeatedly filming dinghies coming across the channel. channel dinghies with an average of 16 people per boat . an average of 16 people per boat. i was described as being a sad, lonely, desperate figure, always seeking attention , and i've no seeking attention, and i've no doubt there are some that think that's still the case today . that's still the case today. spot on. thank you. but i did it because it was obvious to me what was going to happen. it was obvious that there would be a

huge influx of people illegally coming to britain across the engush coming to britain across the english channel, and it would happen because we'd stopped deporting people who came to britain illegally. and perhaps the labour party might want to reflect themselves on the last penod reflect themselves on the last period of labour government, where we had home secretaries like david blunkett far, far to the right of people like the shadow home secretary today you came to britain illegally during the last labour government. your feet didn't touch the sides . you feet didn't touch the sides. you were gone. you were out. indeed, in the last year of the labour government, from 2009 to 10, 50,000 people who came here illegally were deported . now illegally were deported. now none of that happens anymore . it none of that happens anymore. it didn't happen under 14 years of conservatives and it clearly isn't going to happen under this labour government. and i wonder

why i think you'll find it's the increased role of a court overseas that was set up in the wake of world war two with the very, very best of intentions. thatis very, very best of intentions. that is now completely outlived its usefulness . it is, of its usefulness. it is, of course, called the echr. the european court of human rights. and it was the labour government that enshrined the convention into british law . we will not into british law. we will not stop the boats even if we send a handful to rwanda. we will not stop the boats by attempting to smash the criminal gangs. we've been doing that to the drugs industry in britain year after year , decade after decade, with year, decade after decade, with no success whatsoever. the financial rewards for smuggling people across the english channel can now , can now net channel can now, can now net a gang 2 to ,3 million a week, whatever prison sentences or penalties are put upon them ,

penalties are put upon them, there will always be people volunteering to make millions of euros a week. we will only stop this if we start deporting people that come illegally. then they won't pay the smugglers. but we'll only do that by leaving the echr but i've got a fun suggestion that i think would liven up politics, engage the public and see a massively increased turnout. why don't we have a referendum on whether we continue to be members of the echr? >> yeah, i called lola mcevoy to make her maiden speech . well, make her maiden speech. well, that was nigel farage in his maiden speech in rip roaring form has to be said. a quick summary of what he just said in the comments. if you're joining us, he said, well, i didn't expect is that i'm more outnumbered here than i was in the european union. there were more supporters of brexit in brussels than in this parliament. in fact, he said, this is a remainers parliament

then going on to say this is a rejoiners parliament. he then talks about the population explosion in britain. is the single biggest issue affecting people, especially the working classes. he's having a bigger impact on british people's quality of life than any other issue. then blasted tony blair for opening our borders, but then praised blair's government under david blunkett for deporting people who came here illegally faster than their feet could touch the floor. and then he said that won't happen under this labour government. and i'll tell you why. the echr we will not stop the boats by attempting to stop criminal gangs. the financial awards at 2 to ,3 million every week or simply too high. the first speech from nigel farage, i suspect, of many , nigel farage, i suspect, of many, he's already making a huge impact . he's already making a huge impact. moving on, he's already making a huge impact . moving on, notorious impact. moving on, notorious islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online

meetings. let's get the latest now with our gb news national reporter charlie peters, outside new scotland yard. charlie peters, finally , anjem choudary peters, finally, anjem choudary has been served some justice. tell us more. >> well, martin disrupting al—muhajiroun and its radicalising effects has been a key objective of britain's counter—terrorism community for many decades. the group was founded in the 90s by an islamist called omar bakri mohammed, and he had run the organisation from britain until it was proscribed in 2014 2010. sorry, at that point he left the country. he went to lebanon and was imprisoned in 2014. it was from that period that the prosecution from the crown prosecution service said that anjem choudhury, that notorious islamist preacher, had taken overin islamist preacher, had taken over in a sort of caretaker role, while omar bakri mohammed was in prison. they struggled to

prove this for many years. anjum choudhury has been a trained lawyer and he's always been careful to on the right side of the law in his perspective and avoid prosecution. that came to an end in 2016, where he was jailed for two years for supporting the islamic state, the terror group that was rampaging through iraq and syria at the time. he was released in 2018, but his licence conditions continued until 2021. after they offer those conditions ended, he then started to give lectures onune then started to give lectures online lectures, often on encrypted platforms, to another group called the islamic thinkers society. this group, based in north america, the prosecution said, was in many ways an any any other way of understanding. it arm north america its and arm as they said, were one and the same. and in to order prove this, to demonstrate that anjem choudary was not only a member of a terrorist organisation, not only encouraging support for a terrorist organisation, but directing al—muhajiroun, they achieved this through links

undercover officers with the new york police department and the canadian mounted police because they infiltrated the islamic thinkers society and managed to develop a network of connections with one key person in particular, khalid hussain , particular, khalid hussain, who's also been found guilty today. a canadian national of being a member of a proscribed terrorist organisation that is al—muhajiroun via the islamic thinkers society. now, khalid hussain thought he was speaking to a fellow ally, someone who thought like him, who was a member of the its and who might support the wider ideology. when he admitted in voice recordings that were played out in court in woolwich, where he said that the islamic thinkers society was a branch of al—muhajiroun that was a core part of the prosecution's case. now dominic murphy, the met's counter—terrorism command, said that this decision was a significant moment for british counter—terrorism. >> we know that anjem chowdhury has had involvement with individuals that have committed

terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chowdhury and of course his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help to us manage pubuc uk, will will help to us manage public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation . so involved in radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . significant milestone. >> okay, charlie peters, anjum chowdhury once called himself the number one radicalised in britain. that was a badge of honour for me. a medallion on my chest. well, that's a medallion he'll be able to wear in prison. is sentenced a week today. charlie peters, thanks for joining us from outside new scotland yard. thank you very much. excellent moving on. the bbc has published its annual report today revealing their biggest fatcat earners. no surprises. gary lineker is once again the broadcaster's best paid presenter, taking home a whopping £1.35 million of

taxpayers. bbc licence payers taxpayers. bbc licence payers tax money each and every year. huw edwards is also among the bbc's highest paid stars of the last year. the former newsreader salary increased by £40,000 despite his suspension last july. well gb news reporter adam cherry is outside london broadcasting house. adam, welcome to the show. no surprises that gary lineker tops the premier league of earners, but a few eyebrows raised about huw edwards. he didn't even work. >> yeah, that's right martin, it's a tale of two parts really in this report. so as you say, gary lineker doing very well. 1.35 million. again that's the same as last year for him zoe ball also taking in £900,000, huw edwards getting 40 k a 40 k pay huw edwards getting 40 k a 40 k pay rise despite being off air since last july out tim davie, the director general, held a press briefing before this report was published earlier today and he was asked about this and he said, look , given

this and he said, look, given the circumstances, they felt the bbc felt they had acted proportionately and appropriately, and that actually when a when a staff member , when a when a staff member, regardless of their salary, is suspended, they keep their full pay- suspended, they keep their full pay. in this case it goes up despite not being on television. meanwhile, a lot of disgruntlement here outside broadcasting house because tim davie also confirmed that there will be 500 job cuts because the bbc is under such financial pressure. the licence fee, although it's gone up, it went up in april , although it's gone up, it went up in april, doesn't go as far as it used to. in fact, they're now about £1 billion a year worse off than they were compared to 2010, 14 years ago. so roughly 30% less money in the coffers to pay all these top salaries . not coffers to pay all these top salaries. not only that, but it's published amongst a cloud of scrutiny with the strictly come dancing scandal still unfolding, with celebrity contestants saying they were mistreated and that there needs to be some sort of investigation

into this. tim davie apologised for that and said if there was any mistreatment, the bbc is sorry but nonetheless the contest or the show will go ahead later this year as planned, albeit with chaperones for the top stars. whether that will be enough or whether this will be enough or whether this will keep this out of the headunes will keep this out of the headlines remains to be seen. but as i say, job cuts, financial pressure. but the top earners continue to do very, very well. >> adam cherry, live from the bbc. the fat cats just got fatter. thanks for joining bbc. the fat cats just got fatter. thanks forjoining us on fatter. thanks for joining us on the show. now we've got some breaking news for you now from the usa and secret service director kimberly cheatle has resigned today after the agency came under harsh scrutiny for its failure to stop a would be assassin from wounding, attempting to kill former president donald trump during a campaign rally , according to campaign rally, according to media reports. if you recall, on the on the show yesterday, she was absolutely , brutally was absolutely, brutally cross—examined by congress. and sure enough, the following day she's resigned just to repeat that breaking news. if you're joining us now, us secret

service director kimberly cheatle has resigned after the agency came under harsh scrutiny for its abject failure to stop a would be assassin from attempting to take the life of former president donald trump dunng former president donald trump during a campaign rally on july the 13th. and that's according to media reports. so less than 24 hours after we showed that live on this screen, she has gone, it was a brutal cross—examination. everybody watching that thought there was simply no way she could survive. and 24 hours on, that's the case. she's gone from her post now. still lots more to come between now and 4:00 in just 19 days into the labour government and already public sector pay rises could set taxpayers back an eye—watering £14 billion every single year. could storm onomics cost you a packet

welcome back. your time. it's 342. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now. it'sjust 19 days into a new government , 19 days into a new government, and economists have warned that labour's inflation busting pubuc labour's inflation busting public sector pay rises could cost an eye—watering £10 billion every year. and with scrapping the two child limit an extra £24 billion every single year , £2.4 billion every single year, all of this could add up to an extra spending of £70 billion over the course of the labour parliament. in today's big question is, are bumper tax hikes on the way? could starmer nomics cost you a packet? welcome to discuss this now in our studio with gb news political correspondent catherine forsure. so catherine, without a shot being fired by the unions, there's been no strikes. public sector pay rises are being offered up by the labour party straight away, and when you do the numbers, it's a bumper giveaway . there's only

bumper giveaway. there's only one way of paying for all of this, surely tax rises? >> well, they haven't said that they're going to accept the recommendations of the pay review bodies yet, although there have been noises that clearly, they're very concerned about retention and recruitment in teaching in the nhs, etc. but you know, this 5.5% for teachers that's way above what they were expecting, way above what they've budgeted for inflation, of course, at just 2. so if they do decide to honour those recommendations, yes, it's going to be very expensive. and we know already that they're massively constrained because frankly , there is no money left. frankly, there is no money left. i mean, the government has gone on a series of huge spending sprees. covid. war in europe, etc. etc. so the government that came in knew that it was going to be difficult. they have been very keen to highlight just how awful their inheritance is . but,

awful their inheritance is. but, you know, they said no planned tax rises, borrowing within very strict guidelines , etc, etc. strict guidelines, etc, etc. something is going to have to give. and of course there are, you know, while saying they weren't going to put up a vat or income tax, etc, there are various tax rises that they could put up capital gains tax, inheritance tax , etc, or they inheritance tax, etc, or they break some of the fiscal rules that they have put in place. they'd basically accept, accepted the conservative sort of very tight spending plans, but just worth saying, that the conservative spending plans, they deliberately pushed a lot of these very tough decisions into the next parliament. and also there's a sort of elephant trap being laid for labour by the fact that rishi sunak cut national insurance twice , which national insurance twice, which was very, very expensive. >> all this stuff doesn't come for free. katherine forster,

thank you very much for joining us. always a pleasure. now moving on. new research has suggested that the new government should integrate health services and job centres to get more people into work. the report says that in order to unlock a hidden workforce of 3 million people who are economically inactive, personalised help must be offered based on health and local nhs care boards. should work alongside regional mayors to help people back into work in their local areas. well, let's get the thoughts now of the former health secretary, alan milburn. alan, welcome to the show. this sounds like a good notion. join up services. points of contact with people going to get healthcare. they can also be accessed in terms of trying to get them back into work. we know we've got a massive problem with economic inactivity and benefits bills. tell us how would it work ? bills. tell us how would it work? >> we have got a big problem. >> we have got a big problem. >> in fact, it's a remarkable thing really, that in our country today, the biggest constraint on growing the british economy is shortages of

laboun british economy is shortages of labour. you know, i come from an era when i was growing up in the north—east of england of mass unemployment. i'm speaking from barnsley today, which was the epicentre of mass unemployment when the pits closed in the 19805. when the pits closed in the 1980s. today it's got lower than average unemployment, but it has this massive problem of worklessness people who are being classified as unable to work largely on ill health grounds. and if we're going to be able to fuel growth in the british economy, then we've got to get more of those people back into work because otherwise you rely on more and more immigration and as we know, that has become more and more politically toxic as an issue. so joining up these services and ensuring that the health service, health care and employment services are working together is the best way of making sure that these people who would like to have a job can actually get one. >> you know, welfare is a second biggest of all of our outgoings after the nhs, of course, benefits, unemployment benefits

are a huge part of that. mr milburn , will there be a bit of milburn, will there be a bit of stick in this or will it be carrots for example, if you go along and it's proven that you're able to work and you're not working, might the labor party start withholding benefits and try and save a few quid for the taxpayer ? the taxpayer? >> well, i'm not speaking today on behalf of the labour party because i'm chairing an independent pathways to work commission . independent pathways to work commission. but i think, independent pathways to work commission . but i think, look, commission. but i think, look, if people are gaming the system and in particular if there are people who could work and aren't working, then clearly the taxpayer shouldn't be paying for the pleasure . that's something the pleasure. that's something that has got to be dealt with. but the really interesting thing is when we've polled people surveyed people here in south yorkshire, asking people who have been categorised rememberers unable to work, how many of them would really like a job? 7 in 10 say that they would. but here's the rub 8 in 10 of those people get a state benefit. some welfare payments, but only 1 in 10 have any contact from the employment support services. so in our

report today, we say there should be a new two way street that employment support services should have to engage with those people to try to help them back into work. but equally, there should be an obligation on the part of those people to engage with those services in order that they can do what they want to do, which is to get back into work. that's good for them, it's good for the local economy. and as you rightly say, it's good too, because it caps the welfare bill that keeps rising. >> okay. we have to leave it there. thanks for joining >> okay. we have to leave it there. thanks forjoining us. former health secretary alan milburn. thank you very much. now coming up, we'll be discussing the us secret service chief was now stood down following the trump rally shooting dramatic stuff by martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 352. i'm martin

daubney on gb news now. in the last half an hour, the director of the us secret service has resigned from her post after the agency was heavily criticised following the assassination attempt on donald trump on july the 13th. kimberly cheatle was subjected to a brutal cross—examination yesterday around about 24 hours ago, before a house committee during which she was accused of cutting corners on the former president's security and was told she would have been culpable if donald trump had been killed. i'm now joined by gb news reporter ray addison rea. we carried this cross—examination on the show yesterday. it was absolutely eviscerating savage . miss eviscerating savage. miss cheatle didn't seem to have any answers to the big questions and lo and behold, she was said at the time, one of the senators said joe biden needs to fire you. that didn't happen. she's resigned. tell us more. >> well, yeah. not only did she not have any answers, but it seemed that she had not done the necessary investigation into

this incident, that the whole of the world, and certainly america, would have expected. she didn't have any answers about the kind of what officials knew about the potential threats there, the decisions that they had made, anything about the suspicious behaviour of the suspect and who knew what at what times. but she had denied claims which have been repeated by many republicans, that the secret service had refused additional resources to protect donald trump at that event, and said that they did have the resources that they had requested. in at that particular eventin requested. in at that particular event in pennsylvania . and so event in pennsylvania. and so she had initially refused to resign despite calling that incident on july 13th, the most significant operational failure at the secret service in decades. but the pressure has just been too much now for cheatle. it's not just come from the republican party, it's come from the democrats as well. and

that just overwhelming amount of people just calling on her to step down has obviously resulted in this . in this. >> some of the questions on their ray addison yesterday were simply astonishing. they they were the most basic questions you would expect a director of the secret service to know the answer to. and she simply didn't have them. the most incredible question. the entire audience gasped. rea when this was asked, and she answered the question was, why was the president allowed to take to the stage when you knew a suspicious man was on the roof to which she replied, we didn't know he was dangerous at that point, ray addison the writing was on the wall. she had to go and it's fascinating because, you know, we've we've seen so many reports now that they knew about the presence of, of crooks up to 60 minutes before any shots rang out. >> but she was unable to answer. you know what action had been taken. she was unable, as you said, to answer basic questions such as how many secret service

officers were there, how many police officers were there, and certainly the idea of failing to guard this perimeter, this building that was deemed to be outside of the perimeter and yet only around 125 to 150m away from where the republicans presidential candidate was speaking. a former president, no less, was speaking has just beggared belief and shocked the american public. and it's bizarre because, you know, she has served in the secret service for around 20 years. she left and worked for pepsico and then she came back. she was appointed by president biden as the head of the secret service. she had guarded him and his wife, doctor jill, when he was vice president. and so she, you know, she certainly should have had the experience and the knowledge to know how many guards were needed and that the buildings such as that, that rooftop, just a mere metres away from where donald trump was speaking, should have been secured.

>> okay. astonishing stuff. ray addison. thank you very much. now don't go anywhere. we'll have much more reaction to this story. and also the bibby stockholm barge being scrapped d scrappe by scrapped by the

a very good afternoon to you. it's 4:00 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show. we're on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk on today's show, after scrapping the rwanda bill on day one today, labour has dramatically axed the bibby, stockholm barge or asylum seeker camps at raf scampton and raf wethersfield, next to be scrapped but with no signs of illegal immigration coming down any time soon. where will they all be housed? are they coming to a street near you soon? next up to a street near you soon? next up , islamist hate preacher anjem

up, islamist hate preacher anjem choudary is facing life in jail after being found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. chowdhury, who once boasted he was the number one radicalised in britain, will be sentenced a week today and the bbc has published its annual fatcat salary list and no surprises. once again, gary lineker is the top of the table on £1.35 million a year. but huw edwards, who didn't even work last year due to suspension. well, he trousered a 40,000 grand, 40 grand pay rise . is it grand, 40 grand pay rise. is it time to scrap the bbc licence fee? and that's all coming up in your next hour. of the show, always a delight to have your company and a short while ago we announced on the show that kimberley cheadle, the us secret service director, has dramatically resigned just 24 hours after we carried that brutal cross—examination on yesterday's show. she didn't have any answers to the

questions about how president, president elect trump was almost assassinated millimetres from death. she had simply no responses to the questions. now she's gone . 24 hours later, she's gone. 24 hours later, we'll have the full reaction , of we'll have the full reaction, of course, to that throughout the show. get in touch. use your ways. gbnews.com/yoursay. but now your headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, first let's bring you a little bit more on that breaking news. you were just hearing about the head of the us secret service within the last 20 minutes or so, resigning amid intense criticism of her handling of the attempted assassination of donald trump . assassination of donald trump. we saw yesterday that she spoke to a congressional committee, and she admitted that the attempt on mr trump's life was, in her words, the most significant operational us secret service failure. for

decades, she'd been testifying before that house committee in an effort to explain her actions. she did take full responsibility for what went wrong and has today fallen on her sword. she has resigned from the us secret service . the us secret service. meanwhile, attention is turning to who vice president kamala harris may pick as her running mate, as she asserts herself as the presumed nominee for the democrats to face donald trump on her first full day in the race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president instead threw their support right behind her. that paved the way for her campaign to raise around $81 million in just 24 hours yesterday, and that just a day after president biden dropped out of the race. and it all comes as party members and supporters commend mr biden's decision, including the actor george clooney, who raised a significant amount of money for the democratic campaign . now, the democratic campaign. now, here in the uk, the government's

going to shut down a barge used to house migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. the use of the bibby stockholm, which can house around 500 men, began under the conservative government. but human rights campaigners compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane, extending the use as inhumane, extending the use of the bibby stockholm would have cost more than £20 million next year. islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty today of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found. he directed the group, known as al—muhajiroun for a significant period starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support at online meetings of islamist thinkers. dominic murphy is head of counterterrorism for the metropolitan police. he says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed

terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem choudary and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help to us manage pubuc uk, will will help to us manage public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation , so involved in radicalisation, so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone . significant milestone. >> there's been a stabbing at a prison and a police officer has received a stab wound. the officer, we understand, is conscious and talking and has been taken to hospital. following that incident, which happened this morning at frankland prison. that's near durham. and that statement, according to the local constabulary , he was visiting constabulary, he was visiting the category a men's prison from an outside force. we're told water companies will be expected to do far more to protect the health of britain's waterways when new powers are given to the regulator . the environment regulator. the environment secretary says a promised

crackdown on water firms will include tougher fines for polluting, ensuring money is properly invested into infrastructure rather than paid out in bonuses. the environment agency reported 47 serious pollution incidents last year. that's up from 44 in 2022. steve reid says that's unacceptable. >> it would cost hundreds of billions of pounds to nationalise the water companies, and it would take years to unravel the common ownership models. >> i want to crack on and clean up the water as fast as we can. thatis up the water as fast as we can. that is best done by giving the regulator the power , the teeth regulator the power, the teeth they need to stop these practices and that includes the powers to make water bosses responsible for illegal pollution, face criminal charges for the law breaking for which they are responsible . they are responsible. >> police investigating disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've now made a total of 20 arrests. the riots that ensued are believed to be linked to a case involving local children, who were taken into care by

social services vehicles could be seen on fire and a police car was overturned . west yorkshire was overturned. west yorkshire police saying the fast paced investigation continues. they've identified, they say, 40 suspects. and just lastly may tell you about one of the world's greatest tennis champions who sang aurevoir after the paris olympics. andy murray has announced that this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on his spine just a week before the tournament, but in a post on social media, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to do it. one final time. scotland's first minister john swinney hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour with more. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com

forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now we begin with the huge news that the government will end the use of the bibby stockholm barge for housing migrants off england's south coast as part of an overhaul of the asylum system and the contract for the barge moored in dorset will not be renewed past january as demand for such accommodation will be reduced by moves to clear the asylum backlog, as announced by the home office yesterday. the vessel was one of several sites, including the military bases raf wethersfield and essex, and also raf scampton in lincolnshire, used by the previous tory government in a bid to cut the cost of housing migrants in hotels . i'm now cost of housing migrants in hotels. i'm now joined by our home and security editor, mark white. mark, this, i think, is a clear indication of where this government is going . rwanda government is going. rwanda

scrapped on day one bibby stockholm now scrapped scampton wethersfield huge question marks over them hotels. we know they're opposed to them. mark white my simple question is if none of the above solutions are going to suffice, where on earth will these asylum seekers be going? >> yeah, i think it's a very big development. the decision to end use of the bibby stockholm come january next year, and it is a big development for the simple reason that it does give that clear indication of the direction of travel in policy terms, for dealing with the asylum backlog in this country. now, the rwanda deal is separate to that. that is , of course, an to that. that is, of course, an issue around trying to stop the small boats crossing that deterrent. the tory government thought, was the way forward. this government believes, will not be a deterrent. it's just a gimmick. but the other big issue

is how you deal with the asylum backlog. the many thousands of asylum seekers who are languishing in hotels or indeed on the bibby stockholm or at the former wethersfield base in essex. former wethersfield base in essex . going forward, it seems essex. going forward, it seems clear the government now their stated intention is to end the use of these hotels. the first step now is the end of the use of the bibby stockholm. they will want to return hotels back to local use, and that will be widely welcomed by hundreds of communities right across the country who have been very opposed to that asset, that valuable asset of a hotel being taken out of commission and used for asylum seekers. with all of the knock on effects that has not available for weddings, functions for business people and tourists coming into your area, and also, of course, asylum seekers , young men mainly

asylum seekers, young men mainly hanging about in their hundreds outside that hotel and in the local community. but the flip side of that, martin, is that you still have to accommodate them somewhere. now, if you are rapidly going through the assessment period to ensure that all of the asylum backlog is dean all of the asylum backlog is dealt with, you're either granting them asylum or you're not. if you're not granting them asylum, you've got to remove them from the country. you can't do that if they're coming from a country that you can't remove them to, like iran or iraq or syria or afghanistan. we've talked about this many times before. what do you do then? well, they're given to indefinite leave to remain here. effectively. they are granted asylum. and in doing that, these people will be housed in local authority areas instead . so no authority areas instead. so no longer under the control of the home office. and these hotel accommodations or the bigger bases. but instead local

authorities will have to find room for them in areas right across the country. and that means the likes of social housing becoming increasingly scarce for local inhabitants in those communities. >> and mark white angela rayner said on the 26th of june, every part of britain will have to take its fair share of migrants. it now looks like that's the case if containment centres in different countries have been scotched. if barges offshore have been scotched, if containment centres on raf sites have been scotch malt, the only answer is either to build houses. well, there aren't enough houses for brits to live in or to buy cheap housing via serco. this could be serco on steroids. we know at the moment mark white there's a 62% asylum rate being granted. this won't deter the human traffickers at all, will it? >> well, it will be very interesting to see going forward exactly how local authorities are going to be able to

accommodate these people because they said, quite clearly, local authorities right up and down the country under the conservative government, there was just no room. the conservative government incentivised them by making some more money available. but if there's no room, there's no room unless you embark on a social housing council housing building programme, as you suggested there, so it will be, as i say, very interesting to see going forward just what they do to absorb these people into communities who already feel that the services that they have, including the ability to get into social housing, have been severely restricted, that will only, i think, add to the tensions that many of these communities feel at the moment, and that other point that you mentioned there about the whether this becomes a pull factor is a real concern for

those who are very concerned about this being the stated policy of the new labour government, because they say that going forward, if you're a people smuggler and you're trying to get people to embark on that dangerous journey across the channel and give you thousands of pounds to boot, then your argument is far stronger . if you can say to stronger. if you can say to those would be asylum seekers that go under labour now you'll get your asylum claim dealt with much more quickly, and the chances are that you're going to be allowed to stay in the uk to and boot, you will very quickly be moved into social housing somewhere in the country. >> mark white i think you're right. i fear you're right. an excellent summary as ever. thank you very much for joining us excellent summary as ever. thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show. now moving on. the tory leadership race has now officially begun as rishi sunak formally stood down as leader of leader of the conservative party shadow home secretary james cleverly has strongly indicated

that he will throw his hat into the ring, whilst kemi badenoch, suella braverman, tom tugendhat, priti patel and robert jenrick are also expected to be some of the runners and riders for the top job. there will also be internal debates within the conservatives on the direction they should take going forward , they should take going forward, with the party losing votes to laboun with the party losing votes to labour, reform uk and the lib dems at the last general election. let's now speak with gb news political correspondent katherine forster. i'm also joined by the conservative mp for wetherby and easingwold. welcome to the show, the pair of you. let's start with you, catherine. so november, for starters, is a long time away. a lot of people felt that rishi sunak might do a david cameron and fall on his sword the following day. that is in the case. what's the logic in in having such a protracted leadership bid? >> yeah, it's a very long time, isn't it? and as always, within the conservative party, not everybody is happy about this. some people think that it's very

self—indulgent and there'll be lots of sort of public infighting, etc. etc. but more broadly , many of them feel that broadly, many of them feel that they need to take the time to take stock properly about what has gone wrong and how they can rebuild and what sort of party they need to be going forward. and the thinking is get whoever wants to put themselves forward. now they'll need ten mps, have lots of events over the summer, get it to down four at the beginning of september. those four go off to conference, have like a beauty parade if you like. like a beauty parade if you uke.then like a beauty parade if you like. then mps will whittle that down to two and then at that point, the members get the final say as of course they did with liz truss. worth pointing out, of course, that the conservative party membership is traditionally to the right of where many of the mps are. i think a lot of the mps will want some sort of unity candidate that can appeal to people who've

gone to the lib dems because they, you know, done very well, haven't they, and well, there'll be others that think they need to appeal to reform voters. so i think it's going to be tricky. i'll be interested to see what alec has to say. >> alec shelbrooke , let's bring >> alec shelbrooke, let's bring you in at this point. so the runners and the riders, the bookies favourite at the moment, anyhow, is kemi badenoch. 6 to 4 robert jenrick in second at 4 to 1, tom tugendhat more of a centrist proposition 5 to 1. priti patel 6 to 1. james cleverly 7 to 1. and then suella braverman now being pushed out quite severely, 14 to 1. the party has got a lot of problems being squeezed from the right by reform uk being squeezed from the left by the labour party and the left by the labour party and the liberal democrats. first of all, what do you think before we talk about the leader, what do you think the direction of the conservative party should be? yannick. >> well, it's got to be pragmatic , pragmatic, >> the conservative party has always been at its strongest when it's been pragmatic. >> it's got to get away from the

silos, if you will, of the different. i think they were called the families at one point, the different groupings. it's got to be a conservative party. it's got to get back to small state, low taxes governing for everybody, making sure that the middle aged, middle class want to vote for the conservative party. >> these are all things that have drifted away, not through any sudden moment, but they've drifted away. >> that's the reset we've got to be looking for. >> that's the pragmatism we've got to be looking for. >> and it's about recognising that we are the conservative party. we're not trying to be economically lite labour or perhaps, international or socially like reform or take some of the liberal lib dem route. it's got to be something that appeals to the country , that appeals to the country, appeals to the people who shift their vote considerably over a penod their vote considerably over a period of time . i don't know period of time. i don't know what the issues are going to be in four years time, but it's important that we have a leader who has the pragmatism and the wherewithal to be able to look

at those issues when they come. i've had set up the operation behind that as we get there. >> so my next question, alec shelbrooke, is blimming obvious. who do you think should lead the party? bear in mind you're laying out a role for good old fashioned conservative. >> yes. and, my opinion on that has been for a long time, and i can give you the exclusive here and now because nobody else knows but my opinion has been for a long time. and i will be nominating priti patel. >> okay. why? >> okay. why? >> well, because as i said, i think pretty has, not just the pragmatic approach to , all the pragmatic approach to, all the issues i've just laid out, but she was also there, brought into cchq by cecil parkinson in 1997, about how to rebuild the conservative party after that defeat . you get this pattern in defeat. you get this pattern in government that after a long penod government that after a long period of time in government, the structure starts to fall down. you think it would do the opposite, but it doesn't. you're so busy on governing. the structure falls down. that's task number one, but as i say, it's about most important thing being pragmatic. look, pretty

has had senior roles. she's respected on all wings of the party. and i think that's an important point. and it comes back to we've got to have a conservative leader representing the conservative party and get away from these different gangs that have formed and have been fighting with each other, you know, the enemies not within the conservative party, the enemy is the 174 labour majority sitting opposite who there's going to be a lot of people who didn't vote for us are starting to think, wow, this is not the direction i wanted my country to go in. >> catherine, we hear a lot, don't we, that lots of conservative voters sat at home or voted for reform because you weren't conservative enough. >> but of course, rishi sunak, jeremy hunt would have said that they were fiscal conservatives, naturally, but that events , naturally, but that events, events, dear boy, intervened first with, you know, the pandemic and the fact that furlough and then with war in europe. so we ended up with a bigger state and higher taxes. but how much of that really is the conservative party's fault?

because didn't they just have the misfortune to be in government at that point? >> well, i think there's a lot to be said in that, because i think if you look at western governments around the world, most of them then went on to lose the next election. >> and i think the covid has a very long tail to it. but there is a world of difference between, you know, we did raise taxes and the size of the state has expanded enormously, and that has to change. but if we look at the government, we've now got they actually want to take that further, just as a matter of policy. and that's what a conservative party trying to become a conservative government has to clearly outline that big state and big taxes are not the way that you're going to prosper as a country. the country, as margaret thatcher said, it was the it was the small shopkeeper syndrome. it was the small business syndrome balance. the books, know what you're spending, know where it comes in, profligate spending, having to raise taxes more and more, especially with an ageing population. and that tax base decreasing and the costs going up. there is a balance to be had. you've got to grow your

economy. now we talk labour, talk about this all the time. well we're going to grow the economy, not put taxes up. let's see how much that holds out in september. >> well there's a long way to go alec shelbrooke, thank you very much for making a pitch today for your choice. priti patel katherine forster, of course, always a pleasure. thanks to you both. now moving on. on the way, we'll discuss the bbc report, which shows that huw edwards has the bbc's third highest paid presenter. last year with a 40 grand pay rise despite not working for nine months due to suspension. you couldn't make it up. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel .

welcome back. your time is 426. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. the bbc has published its annual report today revealing their biggest fatcat earners . no their biggest fatcat earners. no surprises. gary lineker is once again the broadcaster's best paid, best paid presenter, taking home a whopping £1.35 million every year. huw edwards is also among the bbc's highest paid stars of the last year. the former newsreaders salary increased by £40,000 despite not working for nine months after a suspension last july. well gb news reporter adam cherry is outside london broadcasting house. adam, welcome to the show. as i said, no surprises .

show. as i said, no surprises. that old big ears is top of the pile. but huw edwards, he hasn't lifted a finger on that suspension. what on earth's going on? >> well, that's right, martin. huw edwards suspended over a year ago now, he hasn't been on screen since last july yet he nonetheless picks up a £40,000 pay nonetheless picks up a £40,000 pay rise in this annual report. now, this is his last time he'll appearin now, this is his last time he'll appear in this in these reports because he resigned entirely in april. but nonetheless, fine work if you can get it for the top earners, at least elsewhere. there's serious pressure on the bbc, serious financial pressure as this report details. tim davie admitting today that they now have 30% less cash in the coffers compared to 2010. the licence fee just doesn't stretch as far as it used to. in fact, there are £1 billion a year worse off and the report also shows that 500,000 households have removed their licence fee in the last year. so trouble in paradise here, not just because

of the financial pressure, but also because of the strictly come dancing scandal, which is continuing to unfold now. some top celebrity stars of that contest in previous years saying they were essentially mistreated and bullied by their professional dance partners. and tim davie today in the press briefing , tim davie today in the press briefing, apologised for that and said if there was any mistreatment , and said if there was any mistreatment, he's very sorry. but nonetheless the contest will continue this year because it's just so popular. there will be chaperones, so it will be a slightly more sanitised affair, but it will nonetheless go ahead. as i say, the top stars do very well. gary lineker1.35 million. zoe ball on 900,000 but 500 staff members facing the chop by march 2026 because they are under such significant pressure. without that licence fee, cash flowing in so readily. >> and adam, there's a constant conversation whenever this list comes out. it's an annual list where we all foam at the mouth slightly about how much these

luvvies are paid, and then we always roll to on the conversation about the bbc licence fee . is it outmoded? is licence fee. is it outmoded? is it time for a rethink? can i ask you , adam cherry, do you think you, adam cherry, do you think politically the bbc is safer in terms of a review of that licence? now the labour party is in power . in power. >> yeah, well, in the last week keir starmer has assured that the bbc licence fee is here to stay and there they have an interest in, in protecting it. so for now, at least, yes, it will, it will continue. and the bbc recently raised the cost of the licence fee to £169, which is roughly a £10 increase since last year. so it will continue chugging along. they're going to have to streamline. they're going to have to shed some jobs and make some changes. it doesn't seem to be that the people at the top will be feeling the pressure so much as those a little bit further down. so for now, they're safe. but the reality is young people just aren't as interested in the output. and you can see that in the report as well. less than 70% of young people saying they

have an interest in the bbc because they just can't compete with the likes of netflix, amazon prime and so on. that offer more compelling television with higher budgets without having to worry about licence fee cash flowing in. >> adam cherry, thank you. excellent summary . as ever, excellent summary. as ever, a lot of people watching this with they can put it to the market, let the market decide. that's a debate for another time. thank you very much adam. always a pleasure. and there's loads more still to come between now and 5:00. after scrapping the rwanda bill on day one today, the labour party has dramatically axed the bibby stockholm barge. but just where will the asylum seekers go ? perhaps they're seekers go? perhaps they're coming to a street near you soon. first, it's your headlines with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> the headlines this hour from the gb newsroom. the islamist preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he directed the

al—muhajiroun group for a significant period of time starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of the islamic thinkers society . the islamic thinkers society. that's an islamist group based in new york. the government's to shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm barge, which can house up to 500, began under the conservative government. human rights campaigners have compared it to a floating prison and have criticised it as inhumane . a criticised it as inhumane. a police officer has been stabbed at a prison near durham. the officer is conscious and talking and in hospital following the incident, which happened this morning at frankland prison, according to durham police . according to durham police. within the last ten minutes, the home secretary, yvette cooper, has condemned what she's heard and said she's appalled over the incident. her thoughts are with the officer and his family and charlotte dujardin has withdrawn

from the olympics over a video from the olympics over a video from four years ago showing her making what she called an error of judgement during a dressage coaching session with her horse. the three time olympic champion said it's out of character and doesn't reflect how she trains her horses or coaches her pupils. normally. she said she is sincerely sorry for her actions and is devastated to have let people down. and in the states, kamala harris is making quick moves to assert herself as the presumed nominee to face donald trump on her first full day in the democratic race. many of those once tipped to challenge the vice president have thrown their support behind her, and that's paved the way for her campaign to raise around $80 million in just 24 hours. that happening just a day after president biden dropped out of that race. and all that comes as joe biden prepares to make an address from the oval office tomorrow to explain his plans for finishing the job. as he puts it, those are the latest news headlines. for now, i'm

polly middlehurst. i've got more in half an hour. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now if you want to get in touch with us here @gbnews, simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay and i'll read out the best of your messages. little later in the show. i want to know what do you think the labour party is going to do with all these asylum seekers? they're not going into the bibby stockholm, they're not going to rwanda, they're not going to raf sites. so where do think they will 7 up. 7 i'm up. up? i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

welcome back. it's 436. i'm martin daubney on gb news. notorious islamist

preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings. following a trial at woolwich crown court , chowdhury was crown court, chowdhury was convicted of taking a caretaker role in directing the terror group. and let's get the latest now with gb news national reporter charlie peters. charlie justice has been a long time coming for anjum chowdhury, but it seems today he finally ran out of time. tell us more. >> justice a long time coming , >> justice a long time coming, but also this has been a significant objective from the uk intelligence and counter—terrorism for community decades. >> because al—muhajiroun and anjem choudary have been key radicalises in recent years and this charge now, the successful conviction on section 56 of the terrorism act, which is for directing a terrorist organisation, is extremely rare. last handed down in 2008 for a mastermind of al—qaeda. but anjum chowdhury, receiving that conviction alongside two others, not only for being a member of

al—muhajiroun but also for encouraging support for it. now, in the course of this trial, we also saw him set alongside his co—defendant, khalid hussain, who was also on charge for being a member of al—muhajiroun. he was a canadian national and his involvement is really key to understanding how the mets and the crown prosecution service achieved these convictions because khalid hussain, the court heard, acted essentially as anjem chaudhry's personal assistant , as anjem chaudhry's personal assistant, organising meetings of a group called the islamic thinkers society. an american organisation which had a significant gathering in new york, and undercover officers from the new york police department and from the royal canadian mounted police, infiltrated the organisation and established that anjum chowdhury was giving lectures to the islamic thinkers society on encrypted platforms. lectures that he started giving after his licence conditions expired following a previous conviction

for supporting the islamic state terrorist organisation, the prosecution were seeking to establish that al—muhajiroun was the islamic state. the islamic thinkers society. sorry that those two groups were together. they achieved that with those three convictions today. and in reaction, dominic murphy , reaction, dominic murphy, commander of the met's counter—terrorism command, gave his view on this historic conviction. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem chowdhury and of course, his group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation . so involved in radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone. >> well, it was a unique and multinational investigation involving the met, but also those officers from the new york

police department and from canada. and in reaction to these convictions, we also heard from rebecca wiener, the deputy commissioner of the nypd, who said that they taken out a leader, not just a foot soldier. >> so this is an incredibly significant verdict. not just here in the uk, but overseas as well, a prolific and shameless radicalised, like anjem, choudary has managed to inspire influence and be involved in the radicalisation of generations of individuals starting now , that individuals starting now, that won't continue. >> anjum chowdhury radicalised the killer of lee rigby. he radicalised the london bridge terror attackers in 2017. he radicalised usman khan, the man behind the terror attack on london bridge in 2019. he has been a significant director of terror radicalising in britain in recent decades. but now, with his sentencing coming up, a week today, he has been brought to

justice. >> justice finally served on anjum chowdhury, an excellent summary. thank you very much. charlie peters . well, let's charlie peters. well, let's remind you of the news that the government will end the use of the bibby stockholm barge for housing migrants off england's south coast as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. the contract for the barge moored in dorset will not be renewed past january , as the man renewed past january, as the man for such accommodation will be reduced by moves to clear the backlog of asylum seekers, as announced by the home office yesterday. i can now speak with immigration lawyer hardeep singh bhangal hajar, welcome to the show . well, for many, many show. well, for many, many months you and i have had this conversation. you thought the bibby stockholm was always a terrible solution. it wasn't required. the home secretary, the labour party has agreed. it's been given the chop. what are your thoughts? >> well, it's an expensive gimmick. it didn't act as deterrent. >> we had an episode where it was empty for a little while when there was legionnaires on it. unfortunately, one person committed suicide or, you know,

took his own life as a result of it. and it did nothing to clear the backlog. whereas now this 20 million can be saved from january . january. >> and as labour are doing a re—investing into a thousand new caseworkers to clear the 100,000 backlog in fact, angela eagle, the home office minister, she said , to the mp lloyd hatton, said, to the mp lloyd hatton, the south dorset mp , that these the south dorset mp, that these people who are currently housed on the bibby stockholm , they're on the bibby stockholm, they're going to be processed as a matter of extreme urgency . so matter of extreme urgency. so we're expecting them to be processed in a matter of weeks, not months. >> and years, like they're being held on a barge. there's no point holding these migrants for months and years when they should be processed. >> and by processed, it doesn't mean letting them all live here. >> it actually, they, the home office referred to it yesterday that the initial processing of the 100,000 they were going to try and, assess and return those from safe countries such as india, what they deem as pakistan , nigeria and albania. pakistan, nigeria and albania. so that's what they're looking

to do. the government and, they're saving money at the same time. and also especially after the story on sunday broke by newspaper that the hotel system involved some sort of commission fee for middlemen as well, which was costing the taxpayers millions of pounds a year. and, you know , there was contracts you know, there was contracts were signed with three companies for billions. so this one, this is labour sort of taken apart. these contracts and, you know, especially ones that are sort of whiff of the ppe sort of scandal around them and saving money and putting them elsewhere, putting that money into clearing the backlog, which mean yourself have always called for. there's no reason why 100,000 claims, which should take each one to take about half a day or a day to assess, should be outstanding for years and yet, as has this solved, the problem, on the one hand, the labour party can say, hey, we've actually managed to stop a boat at last. >> the bibby stockholm they finally stopped a boat. there's no sign of the small boat stopping. they're arriving on the coast. in fact, they've gone

up under the labor party. so the next question, harjeet singh bungle is if they're not going to be sent to rwanda, if they're not going to live on a barge like the bibby stockholm, if next for the chop is raf scampton, raf wethersfield , that scampton, raf wethersfield, that looks likely. we know they don't like the idea of hotels, and with a 62% success rate of asylum claims, the numbers coming to britain won't come down. and i put it to you. what? what will happen instead? angela rayner said herself every part of britain will take their fair share of migrants. so what's happened here? the problem hasn't been solved. it's simply been moved and it's coming to a street near people like you sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> well, the thing is, the proof will be in the pudding, and the pudding is the numbers. at the end of the day , we've always end of the day, we've always talked numbers on this channel, and especially on your show and the numbers will ultimately tell if the labour government are successful in stopping this. >> we'll see what the border security command actually does. is it just a revamp of the same

thing that we had, or will it be a total new system? there's a new deal that's been signed with slovenia and slovakia to stop the gangs, because that's a popular border from which people cross into austria and into germany. and let's also see about this 84 million invested into countries like chad and sudan, and see if that will stop. all of this is going to take time. but yeah, the proof once again, martin will be in the numbers and how labour managed the numbers. but what is certain is that there needs to be removal of people who have been refused. and that was totally down under the previous government. so this, this government. so this, this government does recognise look , government does recognise look, we need to send people back. and as for boats, it did send one boat back last week. under what circumstances? we're not sure. but that surely does show that. hold on. we can turn around the boats or we can manage this to some sort of level. lawyers didn't stop that boat. judges didn't stop that boat. judges didn't stop that boat. judges didn't stop that boat. the french didn't stop that boat. so we'll have to see how this all plays out at the moment. it's new government, new language.

will it work? let's have a see. let's see how many people are removed in a few months time. let's see how many numbers of people coming over are actually sent back. that will tell the tale. martin. >> well , tale. martin. >> well, nigel farage gave his maiden speech in parliament a short while ago. he said the last labour government, the tony blair government under david blunkett, they were tough. they sent people back. you and i spoken about that often. he says he doesn't think the same thing will happen under this government due to the echr. we're going to have to leave it there, simply run out of time. but i know we're going to talk about this again sometime soon. immigration lawyer robert bengal immigration lawyer robert bengal, always a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you for joining us. now coming up, forjoining us. now coming up, we'll be heading to paris to find out whether the olympics could be the worst one ever, as half a million tickets still remain available , even for the remain available, even for the much coveted 100m final. people have got no interest in going to paris. we'll find out why i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

welcome back. your time is 449. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. over half a million tickets remain unsold for this year's paris olympics. there are even tickets left for one of the most coveted events of all, the 100m final. but the paris 2024 president dismisses any suggestions president dismisses any availability reflects lack of interest, adding that there are often empty seats at big stadium events such as the football. but could the empty seats make paris the worst olympics in history? well, paris based journalist peter allen joins me now. peter welcome to the show. so we last spoke about this topic a couple of weeks ago. it didn't look very rosy then. it looks worse now. 600,000 tickets still remain on sale, some at £15 a p0p- remain on sale, some at £15 a pop. i mean, you know, you'd be hard pressed to watch non—league football at those sort of

prices. what's going on? why is there such little interest in there such little interest in the paris olympics? >> well, never say never, martin. >> there's a couple of weeks to 90, >> there's a couple of weeks to go, for example, until the 100m final, a lot of people start to get very interested when the pubuchy get very interested when the publicity increases around particular runners or whatever, and there's still some confidence that they can be sold. what the organisers are saying is that they held certain tickets back to make it fair, so they weren't all sold a year in advance. a lot of people were buying them long ago and they've got them already. but as you say, it is a bit strange that so many are available. look at the opening ceremony on friday. can you believe they're still selling tickets for £900 equivalent of and upwards even £2,000 to watch a load of barges on the sane? and of course, nobody gets any medal , on the sane? and of course, nobody gets any medal, right. so they say a fool and his money are soon parted. maybe there are fewer olympic fans still around who will spend that kind of

money to come and watch. who knows what. we'll we'll know shortly. martin >> but peter, there are there are other issues too. and again, you and i have spoken about them before. that is the backdrop of social unrest. we saw after the parliamentary elections. and there were scenes on the streets. there were riots between local lads, as you might call them, and the police. there was a story overnight of an australian woman who was gang raped in a kebab shop in paris just days before the olympics starts, and then a hard left parliamentarian, thomas. portals, portals , beg your portals, portals, beg your pardon? from the france unbowed, the radical hard left party saying israeli athletes are not welcome at the olympic games. politics, palestine being brought into this, the threat of violence, peter. and is that also a part of the backdrop to the lack of interest ? the lack of interest? >> i think it's always the backdrop to france, really, martin. it's a revolutionary republic . martin. it's a revolutionary republic. it's one that's martin. it's a revolutionary republic . it's one that's always republic. it's one that's always full of violent dissent. riots

are very regular here, particularly on saturdays, for example. and, this kind of social turmoil is all part of it, really. there are paramilitary police all over paris at all times, same with all the other major cities and towns. i can tell you this. i've been walking around central paris this morning, and i think if anybody tried anything, they would be arrested instantly. i mean, it really is like fort knox around here at the moment. lots of streets have been shut off. there are more police around than there are ordinary pedestrians. tourists are turning up without the regular passes that they need to even get to their hotels. that's how secure it is. i mean, that in itself is quite alarming. i remember going to london 2012 and didn't experience anything like that kind of level of what some would say as reactionary, repressive security. but they really are taking it very, very seriously here. and despite the

kind of threats that you outline, which again, i don't think are really much to do with the olympics, they're to do with france. france is always , again, france. france is always, again, has this sort of undercurrent of turmoil, and it's more of the same as far as that's concerned. but i think security operation is really quite extraordinary at the moment. >> okay . thank you forjoining >> okay. thank you for joining us from paris, peter allen . us from paris, peter allen. let's hope everything goes peacefully. of course, there was an islamic state terror threat towards the champions league quarter final in paris in april. now that's all for this hour. but don't go anywhere because up next we're getting reaction to the government sensationally scrapping the migrant march. but just where will they go next? could they be coming to a street near you? i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel now your weather with alex deakin . deakin. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news .

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>>a >> a very, very good afternoon to you. it's 5:00 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. coming up after scrapping the rwanda bill on day one. today, the labour party has dramatically axed the bibby stockholm or asylum seeker camps at raf scampton and raf wethersfield next for the chop. but with no signs of illegal immigration coming down any time soon, where will these people all be housed ? could they be all be housed? could they be coming to a street near you ? coming to a street near you? next up, the bbc has published its annual fatcat salary list and once again , no surprises. and once again, no surprises. gary lineker is top of the table

on a whopping £1.35 million every year. but huw edwards, who didn't even work last year due to being suspended. well, he trousered a £40,000 pay rise. is it time to scrap the bbc licence fee? and yesterday labour chancellor rachel reeves said britain has the worst set of circumstances since the second world war. yet a new report seen exclusively by gb news shows britain is actually beating the european union on three key metrics gdp, inflation and unemployment. and that asks the question why does the new labour government keep talking? britain down? that's all coming up in your next hour . welcome to the your next hour. welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. so the labour party on day one, rwanda got the chop. now the bibby stockholm

has got the chop. the raf sites, they look likely to be next. but immigration isn't going down. in fact, the boats are going up the bibby stockholm is the only boat the labour party has stopped, which adds the question the big, big question. where do you think all these people will be housed? angela rayner said every community will need to take their fair share of asylum seekers. is that something you're happy with? get in touch all the usual ways. gbnews.com/yoursay but now let's have your headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that in the united states, the head of the secret service has resigned today amid intense criticism of her handung intense criticism of her handling of the attempted assassination of donald trump. kimberly cheadle admitted that the attempt on donald trump's life was, in her words, the most

significant operational failure by the secret service for decades, she'd been testifying before a congressional committee yesterday explaining her actions and saying she took full responsibility for what went wrong. meanwhile, president biden will address the nation from the oval office tomorrow to explain his plans for, as he puts it , finishing the job. he's puts it, finishing the job. he's understood to be returning to the white house today after several days out of the spotlight . and it comes as spotlight. and it comes as kamala harris asserts herself as the presumed nominee to face republican donald trump. she's already secured the support of senior democrats, including joe biden, nancy pelosi and the clintons. her campaign has already raised over $80 million, just a day after president biden dropped out of the race for the white house. now, as you've been heanng white house. now, as you've been hearing here, the government's going to shut down a barge used to house migrants off the south coast of england as part of an overhaul of the asylum system . overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm,

which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. but human rights campaigners compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane. the barge will continue to house migrants until the contract expires next year . the contract expires next year. that's longer than any longer than that would have cost the taxpayer more than £20 million, the islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he'd directed the group, known as al—muhajiroun, for a significant period of time starting in 2014, and had encouraged support at online meetings of the islamic thinkers society , a new york based society, a new york based islamist group. dominic murphy is head of counterterrorism for the metropolitan police. he says today's verdict marks an important moment. >> we know that anjem choudary has had involvement with individuals that have committed terrorist attacks here in the uk in the past, but also travelled

overseas to join isis. so actually disrupting anjem choudary and of course, his group al—muhajiroun , a group al—muhajiroun, a proscribed organisation here under the terrorism act in the uk, will will help us to manage pubuc uk, will will help us to manage public safety. but of course, you know, we need to keep a watchful eye on others that are involved in radicalisation. so our work won't stop here. but this is nonetheless a significant milestone. >> well, also, news coming to us today that a police officer has been stabbed inside a prison near durham. the officer, we understand is conscious and talking in hospital following the incident which happened this morning at frankland prison. that's according to durham police. he was visiting the category a men's prison from an outside force. the home secretary, yvette cooper this afternoon has said she's appalled over the incident and that her thoughts are with the officer and his family. charlotte dujardin has withdrawn from the olympics over a video from the olympics over a video from four years ago showing her

making what she's called an error of judgement during a coaching session. the three time olympic dressage champion has had to pull out of all competitions whilst the incident is being re—investigated, she said. what happened was out of character and she's sorry for her actions at the time and is devastated to have let everybody down. water companies will be expected to do far more to protect the health of britain's waterways, when new powers are given to the regulator, the environment secretary says a promised crackdown on water firms will include tougher fines for polluting and making sure money is properly invested into infrastructure, rather than being paid out in bonuses for bosses. the environment agency reported 47 serious pollution incidents last year. reported 47 serious pollution incidents last year . that's up incidents last year. that's up from 44 in 22. steve reid says that's unacceptable. >> it would cost hundreds of billions of pounds to nationalise the water companies, and it would take years to unravel the common ownership

models. i want to crack on and clean up the water as fast as we can. >> that is best done by giving the regulator the power, the teeth they need to stop these practices and that includes the powers to make water bosses responsible for illegal pollution, face criminal charges for the lawbreaking for which they are responsible . they are responsible. >> steve reid, now the last remaining member of the four tops whose music helped define the sound of motown, has died at the sound of motown, has died at the age of 88. varne. you know better with you. >> with you. with you. can't help myself. cause i love you. and no one else. >> abdul fakir, who is known often as the duke, was part of the quartette behind the string of hits throughout the 60s. in addition to that one, i can't help myself. they also gave the world reach out , i'll be there world reach out, i'll be there and baby, i need your loving. all of which became hot hit parade classics and he continued

playing long after the group's heyday as well, completing his final tour just last year. fellow musician smokey robinson has paid tribute to his friend , has paid tribute to his friend, saying that duke would carry on making heavenly music. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour. see you then. >> alright, now we begin this hour with the massive news that the government will end the use of the bibby stockholm barge for housing migrants off england's south coast as part of an overhaul of the asylum system. the contract for the barge moored in dorset will not be renewed past january, as demand for such accommodation will be reduced by moves to clear the asylum backlog , as announced by asylum backlog, as announced by the home office yesterday. now, the home office yesterday. now, the vessel was one of several sites, including the military bases raf wethersfield in essex and raf scampton. that's the site of the dambusters. if you recall, in lincolnshire, used by

the previous tory government in a bid to cut the cost of housing migrants in hotels . well, i'm migrants in hotels. well, i'm joined now by our home and security editor , mark white. security editor, mark white. mark, welcome to the show . so mark, welcome to the show. so yeah, the clearest indication yet of the direction of travel for the labour party. day one rwanda got the chop now, bibi. well, at least that's one boat. they've stopped raf camps looking like they'll get the chop to mark. the big question is . well, immigration isn't is. well, immigration isn't coming down any time soon. the boats, if anything, are going up, they're coming in bigger and bigger numbers. so mark that. ask the question , where on earth ask the question, where on earth would all these asylum seekers be housed ? be housed? >> and i can tell you that our producer in kent is indicating that more migrants are due to arrive illegally across the engush arrive illegally across the english channel in the next 24 hours, probably beginning on the evening tide later this evening, because those weather conditions in the channel are settling

down. and as sure as night follows day when conditions improve, then those migrants come across the channel, making that illegal journey. so of course, what does the government then do with those who are continuing to come over here and adding to the asylum backlog? well, their policy, it's very clear it's their stated aim is to rapidly diminish that asylum backlog until all those asylum applications have been dealt with and along the way, and the use of the likes of the bibby stockholm barge, the raf bases and the hundreds of hotels up and the hundreds of hotels up and down the country that will be welcomed by many people who've seen these hotels in particular, going out of use for the local community. but the flip side of that, martin, is you have to accommodate these people somewhere. now, if they're granted asylum, they still have to be accommodated in the community, and that will

fall to the local authorities right across the country to find room for them , probably in room for them, probably in social housing stock that makes social housing stock that makes social housing stock all the more limited for people in these local areas to access, and also there's the issue of processing people very quickly through the asylum system and then either granting them asylum or giving them leave to remain, because you can't return them to a dangerous country will act as a pull factor . critics say it will pull factor. critics say it will just encourage more people to come across the channel, because the people smugglers will be able to say to them, under a labour government , you will get labour government, you will get your application processed very quickly and likely then move into a nice council house somewhere around the country and mark white that then asks the very real question again, no surprises. >> it was their stated aim.

angela rayner said on june the 26th, every part of britain will take their fair share of migrants, along with that promise to build 1.5 million social houses. but asylum seekers mark white will be eligible for that. social housing, social housing that is in short, short supply for british people already . mark, is british people already. mark, is this really going to stop the problem or is it simply going to dissipate and move the problem around working class communities, no doubt around britain. >> well, i think there's no doubt that as part of the stated policy now of the labour government , then, you know, government, then, you know, people will move throughout the country and be absorbed into local authority areas. and as a consequence, they will have to be housed and that will probably fall to council or social housing stocks and the like to make room for these people. look, there are no easy solutions to this crisis . and

solutions to this crisis. and the former conservative government needs to answer some key questions as well about what on earth it was planning to do with that huge backlog of tens of thousands, up to 90,000 asylum seekers in the system as well, because they were just sat in limbo. they had passed a bill in limbo. they had passed a bill in the commons that was meant that anybody crossing the engush that anybody crossing the english channel after the 20, after march 2023, was no longer eligible to claim asylum. so they were just stacking up in hotels. well, the labour government is passing a statutory instrument that will mean that those who have been in limbo in hotels will actually be processed. but in saying there's no easy solution to this, that is evident by the fact that you can, process them more quickly . can, process them more quickly. but in doing that, once the decision has been made, you're

still left with what to do with them. because as you mentioned before, martin, more than 60% of asylum applicants are granted asylum. that doesn't even begin to address the numbers . who to address the numbers. who can't then be returned to their home countries because they're dangerous countries that are then still given leave to remain. so the vast majority of people coming across the channel do eventually just get to stay in this country. >> you know? mark white nigel farage a short while ago gave his maiden speech in parliament and he said the previous labour regime under david blunkett as home secretary, they were tough. they sent people back. he doesn't think the same thing will happen under this government because of the echr mark white. this one is going to roll and roll and roll. thank you so much . expert analysis as you so much. expert analysis as ever mark white. thank you . now ever mark white. thank you. now it's just 19 days into the new government , and economists have government, and economists have warned that labour's inflation busting public sector pay proposals could cost an

eyewatering £10 billion every yean eyewatering £10 billion every year, with scrapping the two child limit an extra £24 billion on top of that per year. all of this adds up to an extra spending of an eye—watering £70 billion over the parliament, and that's just two policies. so today's big question is our bumper tax hikes inevitable? are they on the way? and could starmer nomics cost you a packet? we'll discuss this further with the head of campaigns at the taxpayers alliance, who joins me in the studio , elliott keck. elliott, studio, elliott keck. elliott, welcome to the show . thanks for welcome to the show. thanks for having me. now, as sure as night has followed day, people said, well, there'll be big public sector spending booms that seems to be in the pipeline. sector spending booms that seems to be in the pipeline . and we to be in the pipeline. and we either pay with with that with, printing money. we can't do that with £2.7 trillion in debt. the magic money tree, no longer exists. so the only way, surely, is tax rises. >> yeah. well, absolutely. >> yeah. well, absolutely. >> well, listen, during the

election and for many months before rachel reeves and i think rightly, absolutely pledged ironclad fiscal discipline when she came into government, unfortunately, and only a couple of weeks in, we're starting to see that discipline just starting to fray. and the, you know, the figures we're talking about are mind boggling . and the about are mind boggling. and the ultimate reality is, is we know that they'll have to raise tax in order to pay them unless they increase borrowing, which i don't think is feasible and would also go into their fiscal discipline pledge. and the only way to fund that through tax is going to be through the things like vat, national insurance and income tax. stuff like vat on private schools is not going to pay private schools is not going to pay for these pledges. >> and the numbers involved are eye—watering. to pay for all of that alone would be the equivalent of like £0.03 on income tax. now they're not likely to do that. they're most likely to do that. they're most likely to do that. they're most likely to change to chase people who already have money. a lot of talk about capital gains, about inheritance tax. do you think we're going to see that kind of tax movement? it's going to be an autumn, a difficult statement in autumn for rachel reeves. >> i think we may see movement on some of those taxes, but actually they're not going to raise the revenue. that's just simply not going to raise

revenue. the treasury's own estimates say that if you increase capital gains tax, it's unlikely to bring in extra revenue. in fact, many estimates that the treasury put forward . that the treasury put forward. and, you know, rachel reeves talks a lot about the sanctity of the obr, a lot of these estimates say if you raise capital gains tax, you actually lose revenue. the only way you're going to bring in that sort of £70 billion over five years is if you do something like national insurance, income tax or vat. and i do wonder if they may look at national insurance, which of course, the last government cut by £0.04 and say, well, we're going to restore that to what it was before, that would be what i would be looking out for. >> and meanwhile we're hearing project fear type messaging, a statement yesterday. we're in the worst situation since world war two. it feels like we're getting fluffed up. we're getting fluffed up. we're getting softened up for some pain . pain. >> yeah. i mean, listen, clearly the economic situation is not a good one. debt is at £27 trillion. it's over 100% gdp. you know we can debate about whether it's the worst since world war two. certainly the tax burden is heading to the highest since world war two. but listen, either way, we knew things were bad before the election. the labour party knew things were bad before the election. this hole now we've, you know, looked

under the bonnet. things are worse than we thought. i don't think that is sustainable. but nevertheless, things are bad. and ultimately, if they're going to increase spending in the way that many of their backbenchers are demanding, and we just saw, you know, unrwa funding increase by £21 million in the last couple of weeks, they're going to have to start raising taxes . to have to start raising taxes. >> they talk about growing their way out of it. we don't really seem to get a lot of detail, andy, what about things like actually cutting tax on corporation tax to make britain more productive, more attractable, more worthy of inward investment from abroad? >> well, we know that cuts to corporation tax do wonders for growth. there's a good reason for that. corporation tax is paid by employees through lower wages. it's paid by consumers through higher prices, and it's paid by shareholders through lower dividends. so we know that cutting corporation tax would be an excellent way to boost growth. unfortunately, that's not in the labour party's ideology. it's not in their way of thinking. they view businesses as not something to be celebrated to quite the same extent as others. and so unfortunately, i don't think that's going to happen. but what i'd be saying to this current government is definitely don't make things worse. and that

means they're going to have to stand up to some of those pay demands. >> and you talked about capital gains tax. it doesn't net the revenue. quite simply, if we learn anything from the bad old days of the 1970s, if you squeeze the pips, people flee the country. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and i unfortunately, the only places where you can really reliably raise a lot of revenue is income tax on ordinary working people. national insurance and ordinary working people, and vat, the sort of taxes that people actually cannot avoid, cannot find ways around. and taxes on people that don't have the ability to simply leave the country and unfortunately, i think that's what we're heading to. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us. and that's elliot kark, who's the head of campaigns at the taxpayers alliance. thank you very much. always a pleasure to have you in the studio now. still plenty of time to grab your chance to win £30,000 in the great british giveaway. as our biggest cash prize of the year. and it's completely tax free now, what would you do with all that extra dough? well, here's how you could win the lot. >> don't miss your chance to win our super summer giveaway with your chance to win £30,000 cash! our biggest cash prize to date,

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news. the director of the us secret service has resigned from her post after the agency was heavily criticised following the assassination attempt on donald trump on july the 13th, kimberly cheatle was subjected to an absolutely brutal cross—examination before a house committee yesterday, during which she was accused of cutting corners on the former president's security and was told she would have been culpable if donald trump had been killed. committee members also became very frustrated at her apparent inability to answer even the most basic of questions. well, i'm joined now by jimmy's reporter ray addison rea . welcome to the show. the rea. welcome to the show. the session yesterday we carried live on gb news. it was astonishing. it was savage. i've never seen anything like it . and never seen anything like it. and she couldn't answer basic, basic questions. rea this one in particular that she was asked that made the entire auditorium gasp with disbelief. she said

she was asked why was the president allowed to take to the stage when you knew a suspicious man was on the roof and she answered in all seriousness, she answered, we didn't know he was dangerous. rea with answers like that, incompetence shining through the small wonder that 24 hours on, she's fallen on her sword and resigned. >> now just like president biden had to go, inevitably , after had to go, inevitably, after that disastrous debate performance with former president trump, it was inevitable that she would have to go as well. and we understand that she has sent an email to her staff within the last hour or so taking saying, i take full responsibility for the security lapse in light of recent events. it's with a heavy heart that i've made the difficult decision to step down as your director. i'm not sure , martin, that it i'm not sure, martin, that it was that difficult decision. it was that difficult decision. it was clear that she had to take responsibility . and this really responsibility. and this really is a secret service that is in

crisis now. it's the most significant operational failure since then. president ronald reagan was shot back in 1981. you say she wasn't able to answer questions. she refused to provide details about the incident, the handling of the security perimeter, what officials knew of potential threats, the decisions they made when they did know , and of when they did know, and of course, the suspicious behaviour of the suspect. and it was untenable for her president biden has responded, saying that he was grateful to cheatle for her decades of public service, and he's now saying that he's going to appoint a new director of the secret service. but questions may be asked over that. does he have a legitimate right as the outgoing president, to choose the person in charge of that crucial role? you may find that kamala harris, who is now, of course, the presumptive nominee for the democrats, she may want to select her own person of course, if donald trump wins the election in november, he may want to replace

that person as well. now, he's commented as well in the last houn commented as well in the last hour, he's tweeted saying the biden—harris administration did not properly protect me and i was forced to take a bullet for democracy. it was my great honour to do so, but we also hear that we're going to be heanng hear that we're going to be hearing from president biden. he'll be speaking on wednesday evening in the united states. that's 1 am. evening in the united states. that's1 a.m. uk time. and he's that's1a.m. uk time. and he's bound to address all of all of the events of the very busy last 48 hours. >> and ray anderson, there are lots of questions asked yesterday about was resource turned down for political reasons. she dodged those questions. but some of the most bafic questions. but some of the most basic questions she she didn't have the answers to ray were simply astonishing. did the secret service have an agent on that roof? she was asked . i that roof? she was asked. i can't answer that question. it's an ongoing investigation, ray. at that point, the audience were laughing . they were openly laughing. they were openly laughing. they were openly laughing at her. she embarrassed her office. she embarrassed herself. and then it culminated,

in in somebody saying, because donald trump is alive, you look incompetent. if he died, you'd be culpable. biden needs to fire you. that didn't need to happen in the end, ray. she's done the right thing. >> it was the it was the only opfion >> it was the it was the only option that she had. it wasn't her decision. it was. it was a decision that was made for her. we saw her appear at the republican national convention in milwaukee while donald trump was there . well, he was was there. well, he was speaking, and she was followed around by various senators demanding answers. and of course, you know, she was saying at the time, i'm due to appear in front of this committee. and yet then she goes there and she doesn't provide even the most bafic doesn't provide even the most basic answers. and they were pointing out to her in that committee, and this is not just republicans. this is democrats, too, pointing out to her, you have had nine days to find the answers to this question, these questions, and you have completely failed to do so. it appears that she was either uninterested or some would argue , uninterested or some would argue, too incompetent to even ask

those right kinds of questions. and that doesn't make any sense, because she had been with the secret service for 20 years, on and off, before working for pepsico in a security role, and then coming back, appointed by president biden to that role. well, he appointed it would appean well, he appointed it would appear, the wrong person, and he's about to appoint somebody else now. and the questions will be asked as to whether he's got the right judgement to choose the right judgement to choose the right judgement to choose the right person for that crucial job. >> it's a valid question, and lots of other questions will be asked about was she a diversity hire? was she the right person for the job, or was she simply the right woman for the job? and yesterday, ray , when she said, yesterday, ray, when she said, i'm here today because i want to answer questions, and one of the congressmen simply said, i don't think you've answered a single question here today. ray addison it was like a career assassination, if you pardon the pun . she's gone. kimberly pun. she's gone. kimberly cheadle history. thank you very much for joining cheadle history. thank you very much forjoining us. ray addison . much for joining us. ray addison. there's lots more still to come between now 6:00, and we'll discuss the bbc report, which

shows that huw edwards has become the bbc's third highest paid presenter. last year with a 40 grand pay rise, despite being suspended for nine months. the first is your latest news headunes first is your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst. >> the headlines this hour the islamist preacher anjem choudary has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. his trial found that he'd directed al—muhajiroun group for a significant period of time starting in 2014, and had also encouraged support for it by addressing online meetings of the islamic thinkers society. also today, the government says it will shut down a barge used to house migrants off the south coast of england as part of its overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm barge, which can house up to 500 men, began under the

conservative government. human rights campaigners, though, have compared it to a prison ship and criticised it as inhumane , and criticised it as inhumane, and charlotte dujardin has withdrawn from the olympics over a video from the olympics over a video from four years ago showing her making what she called an error of judgement during a dressage coaching session. the three time olympic dressage champion has had to pull out of all competitions whilst the incident is being re—investigated, she said she was sincerely sorry for her actions which were out of character and is devastated to have let everyone down. meanwhile, in the united states, president biden says he'll address the nation from the oval office tomorrow to explain his plans for what he calls finishing the job. it comes as kamala harris, his vice president, asserts herself as the presumed democrat nominee to face republican donald trump in november . face republican donald trump in november. she's face republican donald trump in november . she's already secured november. she's already secured the support of senior democrats, including the president, nancy pelosi , and the clintons. and pelosi, and the clintons. and that has paved the way for her campaign to raise over $80

million in just 24 hours, just a day after joe million in just 24 hours, just a day afterjoe biden dropped out of the race for the white house those are the latest news headunes those are the latest news headlines from the gb newsroom . headlines from the gb newsroom. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in half an hour with more news. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . gbnews.com. forward slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now notorious islamist hate preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation and encouraging support for it through online meetings following a trial at woolwich crown court, chowdhury was convicted of taking a caretaker role in directing the hate group and let's get the latest now with gb. news, national reporter charlie peters. charlie anjem chowdhury has long dodged justice. today

it finally came. tell us more. >> well, anjum chowdhury is facing life in prison after almost 30 years of living off state benefits while promoting violent jihad , while calling for violent jihad, while calling for islamist political violence and radicalising scores of terrorists who have caused mayhem on streets in britain. but also overseas. he has been a radicalised who has called on people to join the islamic state in iraq and syria. that's what he was previously in jail for from 2016 to 2018. his licence conditions expired in 2021, and that's when this prosecution, which successfully argued this now said that he started promoting al—muhajiroun , the promoting al—muhajiroun, the terrorist group that he was a caretaker of , while the leader, caretaker of, while the leader, omar bakri muhammad, was in prison in lebanon, started giving lectures for them to their north american branch, the islamic thinkers society. the islamic thinkers society. the islamic thinkers society. the islamic thinkers society, based in new york. we were able to understand that anjum chowdhury

had been running this group due to his links with the islamic thinkers society and in particular his links with his personal assistant khalid hossain, a 29 year old canadian who was arrested when he landed in london last year on a flight from canada. he was said to be involved in organising anjum chaudhry's speeches in the united states, often delivered via encrypted platforms. his onune via encrypted platforms. his online lectures, where he called online lectures, where he called on people to encourage themselves and encourage the support for al—muhajiroun, the proscribed terrorist organisation. well, how did we understand the extent of anjum chaudhry's involvement with this group, and how did we establish the links between the islamic thinkers society and al—muhajiroun? well, it was achieved through the new york police department and the canadian police infiltrating the society through their undercover officers. and khalid hussain actually sent one of those officers a voice message establishing what was a crucial piece of evidence showing the

links between arm in britain and it's in new york. >> and of course , just like make >> and of course, just like make sure with you that you know , sure with you that you know, like, i don't want to cause problems for other people if they're not, if they don't even believe in, you know, in these issues. >> i mean, obviously, like, we're basically, you know, right now, this is something that's general. we defend the prisoners of, you know, the especially lord dannatt who are in prison . lord dannatt who are in prison. alok sharma and sheikh nasa but i just, you know, because alok sharma and sheikh nasa but ijust, you know, because it alok sharma and sheikh nasa but i just, you know, because it is coming from me. so i just like it and, you know , most people it and, you know, most people don't know i'm part of al—muhajiroun or who the islamic thinkers society are anyway. so that's why i don't usually care. but certainly you kind of knew, like based on our conversations on my messages the other day, kind of seemed that, you already know knew who al—muhajiroun were. so i just, i

know knew who al—muhajiroun were. so ijust, i didn't know knew who al—muhajiroun were. so i just, i didn't i were. so ijust, i didn't i didn't want to cheat you, you know what i mean? that's pretty much it . much it. >> and charlie, of course, he called himself anjem chowdhury. the number one radicalised in britain. and he indeed went on to radicalise some in some terrible ways, including radicalising, the murderer of lee rigby. >> that's right, martin, the murder of lee rupert. also several other terror attackers in britain. the london bridge attackers from 2017 and usman khan, who murdered two at fishmongers hall off london bridge in 2019. he has been central to the islamist issue in britain for several decades. the uk intelligence community and its wider counter—terrorism partners have seen disrupting anjem choudary and denying opportunities for al—muhajiroun as a key objective over that period, because he has been so influential and it's through this unique and historic partnership with american colleagues and canadians that

they've managed finally to bring him behind bars again. following that 2016 conviction for supporting isis. and it was that they managed to establish the links between al—muhajiroun and the islamic thinkers society. as you heard in that voice. note a moment ago played out of khalid hussain speaking to someone he thought he could trust. he thought he could trust. he thought he could trust. he thought he was speaking to a fellow islamist. in fact, he was speaking to an undercover officer who had goaded khalid hussain into admitting that al—muhajiroun was active in the united states, that it was still ongoing , that it was an active ongoing, that it was an active group. this evidence was vital to achieving these three convictions on anjem chowdhury, of being a member of encouraging support and, crucially , support and, crucially, directing a terrorist organisation. that's section 56 charge. it's extremely rare. we haven't had one in the british courts since 2008, when a key ringleader for al—qaeda in britain was convicted. he was sentenced to life in prison. anjum chowdhury will be sentenced a week today. he could

face the same fate . face the same fate. >> charlie peters an excellent summary as ever. thank you very much for joining summary as ever. thank you very much forjoining us on gb news now. plenty more coming in just a moment. and if you want to get in touch, simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay and i'll try and read out the of your messages little later in the

welcome back. your time is 542. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. throughout the show, i've been asking you for your comments. your say you've been getting in touch on the speech. nigel farage gave his maiden speech earlier on in parliament. a few of you have been commenting on that. koff says this. i've just watched nigel on gb news. speaking in parliament, he says it exactly as it is. he and the other four reform mps represent a substantial swathe of britain on these issues. after this, parliament and

labour government is done with, i suspect there'll be many more reform mps. thank you for that. i'll read some more out before the end of the show, but let's move on now because the bbc has published its annual report today revealing their biggest earners, gary lineker. once again, no surprises. he's the broadcaster's best paid presenter, taking home a whopping £1.35 million each yeah whopping £1.35 million each year. but huw edwards is also amongst the bbc's highest paid fat cats of the last year. the former newsreader salary increased by £40,000 despite being suspended since last july 40th grand for doing nothing on top of his already fat pay packet. well, i'm joined now by the former bbc journalist danny kelly. danny, welcome to the show. so it's an annual event, one we don't especially like much . the big cats are wheeled much. the big cats are wheeled out the top pay no surprises. gary lineker is the top of the pile once again, but huw

edwards, how on earth can he continue to get such a massive salary and a 40 grand pay rise? he hasn't worked since last july. >> you're right, he was on sick leave for nine months during the scandal with his mental health, and he was given like a 10% pay rise. but that's not unusual, martin, because radio two presenters have been given 2530 grand pay rises, whilst 500 members of staff have been told that they're going to lose their jobs because they've got to save £200,000. sorry, £200 million. so roughly 40 k a staff role, they've got to lose 500. yet radio two presenters have been given 2530 grand pay rises. there's a lad who's just been given the early breakfast show on radio two. he used to read the weather at manchester television, bbc manchester. he's on £200,000. martin. now, are you telling me that that lad wouldn't do it for like 65, 70, £80,000? and that's the problem with the bbc. the perception and the optics are terrible. >> £200,000 for an inexperienced

radio presenter when people are losing their jobs, £30,000 pay losing theirjobs, £30,000 pay rise for people like sara cox, who is a fabulous presenter. >> but if i was in charge of radio two, i would say to sara cox, look, sara, you're brilliant, but i don't think you have an alternative. i don't think there's another radio station that's knocking on your doon station that's knocking on your door. so unfortunately you're going to have to take rather than a 30 grand pay rise, we're going to cut your salary to 40 or 50 grand. it's the sort of thing alan sugar should run a commercial radio station. you wouldn't be paying these people 250, £300,000, because they know there's not a viable alternative , there's not a viable alternative, martin. and that's the problem. >> but that probably won't happen any time soon, because common sense doesn't seem to catch on at the bbc. and of course, danny, these these conversations always then turn around to the bbc licence fee. now do you think danny , that the now do you think danny, that the bbc licence fee, the model is safer now that we have a labour government in place ? government in place? >> i doubt martin and i'll qualify that . a recent study qualify that. a recent study told us that 69% of 16 year olds

consume bbc products, so 31% of 16 year olds do. now people will be saying, well, what's that ? be saying, well, what's that? how is that relevant? they're 16. well, i'll tell you why it's relevant because in ten years time, the bbc will be expecting their £169 a year licence fee when they move out of mom and dad's over 55. if you're over 55 years of age, 96% of people are loyal to the bbc. that's why if you turn on the bbc radio or television, everything's aimed at young people, the labour government, i think. >> i think , martin, the labour >> i think, martin, the labour government have had a bit of a reality check with this election and a lot of hard left labour supporters are saying, well, we can't see the difference between the conservatives and labour and labour aren't soft. >> they want another general election success in 4 or 5 years time. so i don't think the bbc is safe. i think the funding model is very insecure. gary lineker has got 12 months left of his contract. i think hell freeze over before the bbc give him another contract because he's harming the licence fee. just him being there with his political activism online. i

love lineker the footballer. i'm an everton fan but i don't like gary lineker, the political activist and labour aren't blind to this. martin. labour aren't soft. they know about this . soft. they know about this. >> okay, danny kelly, many people will agree with you. they're nodding along furiously at teatime. thank you very much, danny. kelly always a pleasure. now coming up, the uk is ahead of the european union in three key economic areas gdp and unemployment and inflation. but why. oh why does it feel as if the labour government are continually talking brexit britain down? we'll discuss that next. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news

welcome back 550. the final furlong i'm martin daubney on gb news. now, here's a question for you. why does the new labour government keep on talking down the united kingdom? because according to the latest statistics, the uk is ahead of the european union in three key

economic areas gdp, unemployment and inflation. so bearing that in mind, why does the keir starmer government continue to insist that britain and its economy are in such dire straits? let's get the thoughts now of the former labour mp stephen pound, and great friend of the channel, stephen. yesterday we heard from chancellor rachel rees whoever won the election would inherit the worst set of circumstances since the second world war. but the data paints a different picture. data came out yesterday not reported on the bbc cal surprise and that is the uk is ahead on inflation, gdp, unemployment, gdp, nought point 7% in the uk, 0.3% in the eu, almost twice as high here, 2% inflation here versus 2.6% in the eu and employment in the uk 4.4% 6% in the eu. brexit

britain is trouncing brussels. why don't we ever hear a good word about britain ? word about britain? >> well, to be honest, martin, if only it was chanting britain. >> look, let's get a couple of things absolutely straight. first of all, every single party either side that criticises it was always accused of talking down britain. >> and let me just tell you one thing. >> if our economy was in this golden state with money pouring in everywhere, do you honestly think that rishi sunak wouldn't have hung on till the autumn when, if such a great economy, then he could have had tax cuts? >> he didn't have tax cuts that he knew he could only get worse. here's the reality. we are growing against some of the other european countries because we're from a much lower base. >> we still have a huge problem. >> we still have a huge problem. >> we still have a huge problem. >> we are massively, massively overexposed in this country. >> do you know 82% of our gdp is actually in the financial services sector? we make nothing in this country. there is no engineering, there's no shipbuilding, there's no car manufacturing , there's no steel manufacturing, there's no steel making. what little there is owned by either tata or volkswagen or other companies . volkswagen or other companies. we are horrendously overexposed in this country to the remote

possibility or the real possibility or the real possibility , rather of our possibility, rather of our financial services moving to frankfurt or paris , hopefully frankfurt or paris, hopefully not to paris. >> after all the chaos that they've been suffering . they've been suffering. >> but the reality is that our gdp, after two consecutive quarters of decline , of actually quarters of decline, of actually recession, is finally moving upwards and credit where credit is due, inflation is steady at 2. i'm delighted to say that. and our unemployment is a pretty reasonable level. but the reality is that our gdp growth compared to the global average, which is at least 6, if you actually look at the world bank figures, is actually nothing to shout about . if anything, it's a shout about. if anything, it's a criticism of the rest of europe rather than a pat on the back for good old gb. >> now stephen got a quick 20s here. isn't the reality that every government is talking down the economy because they want to soften us up for tax hikes? >> no, that simply isn't the case. >> there's nothing to be gained from anybody being unpatriotic. there's nothing to be gained from anybody trying to give a false a false prospectus. if we were not giving the labour party was not giving accurate

information, we would be blown out of the water at the earliest opportunity. i'm sorry. rachel reevesis opportunity. i'm sorry. rachel reeves is a very sober, sensible, serious former bank of england economist and i have to say, i believe her more than some of these. you know, i'm backing brexit websites. sorry, mate. >> all right. well let's leave it there stephen pound. that remains to be seen. i reckon we'll get tax hikes. let's see. call me mystic martin. thank you stephen pound. always a pleasure. that's all from me for now. dewbs& co of course is up next. don't forget to join from 6 am. tomorrow. it's breakfast with eamonn and isabel, followed by britain's newsroom at 930 with andrew and bev. and then, of course, tom and emily with good afternoon britain from midday now. i'm back at tomorrow at 3:00. in fact, i'm back tonight, 7 to 8 covid for nigel farage. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. but now it's time for your weather and it's alex deakin. have a great evening . evening. >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news .

>> news. >> news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. for many, it's a fine evening out there. there are 1 or 2 showers around, but many places are dry and fine with reasonably light winds. a few heavy showers across parts of eastern scotland. 1 or 2 scattered showers for england and wales, but they are very well scattered, most places staying dry. any showers fading away pretty sharply, so a dry night with decent clear spells. quite a warm night across the south. some towns and cities holding up at 15 or 16 degrees. a little cooler further north. not much mist and fog, which means generally fine, starts tomorrow. there will be some cloud here and there, but for many it will be a day of good spells of sunshine like today. 1 or 2 showers likely to get going, particularly across parts of the east, and we are going to see the cloud increasing later across northern ireland, but still here. for many, it's a dry and a fine start, as it will be across much of scotland. two temperatures soon starting to lift with the help of a little

bit of sunshine. i suspect the murray firth could get into the low 20s by the afternoon. now, as we go through the day , we as we go through the day, we will see a bit more of the cloud bubbung will see a bit more of the cloud bubbling up over parts of eastern england lincolnshire down to cambridgeshire. chance of 1 or 2 showers here could even be the odd heavy one, but most areas staying dry. the main exception to that will be northern ireland, where cloud and rain will trickle in by lunchtime and the west coast of wales likely to see some showery rain by the end of the afternoon. same goes for cornwall and the isles of scilly, but elsewhere generally we'll hang on to some spells of sunshine warmer than today as well 25, 26, maybe 27, in london it will be cooler further west with a thicker cloud and the rain that will pep up a little dunng rain that will pep up a little during the evening time. some heavier bursts getting into western scotland that moves towards shetland for the start of thursday and on thursday across the south there will be some more wet weather coming in. could be some heavy bursts of rain mixed in with this. some heavy showers for scotland and northern ireland in between. something a little bit drier and generally temperatures just dipping off a little bit by thursday. back into the high

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party should be taking that to long decide your thoughts? also, it's been announced today that the bibby stockholm is going to closed in january. so what do you make to that then? also, police chiefs have declared a national emergency. get this. it's around the subject of violence against women and girls. levels of which have apparently reached epidemic levels. you tell me what is to blame for this? and how on earth do we fix it? i can tell you people like andrew tate, they are coming under fire today.

what do you make to that? also, nearly