>>a >> a very, very good evening to you. and tonight on farage with me. martin daubney as the labour party revealed, they will give asylum to 70,000 migrants. and also for the bibby stockholm barge will be closed. the first boat sir keir starmer has managed to stop. i'm asking where will they all go.7 next managed to stop. i'm asking where will they all go? next up, benefit fraud is costing you, the british taxpayer , billions the british taxpayer, billions of pounds every single year is the government going to do anything to stop it ? first, anything to stop it? first, we'll get the latest on the us presidential race as it looks like kamala harris will face off against donald trump. but first, it's your news with polly middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good

evening to you. well, we start with some breaking news concerning the olympic dressage champion, charlotte dujardin. you may remember her from a few years ago when she was a three time olympic champion. well, she's been handed a six month provisional ban over a video from four years ago showing her making what she's called an error of judgement during the training of a horse. earlier, it was announced she had withdrawn from the olympics over the video, which resurfaced from years ago. she, as a champion, has had to pull out of all competitions. while that incident was re—investigated and she said what happened was out of character and she's sincerely sorry for her actions and is devastated to have let everybody down. but that news, just through that as a result, she has received a six month ban, provisional ban over that video showing her treating or maltreating a horse four years ago. let's bring you an update from the united states as well. in this bulletin, president biden has , within the last 15

biden has, within the last 15 minutes or so, boarded a flight bound to washington from delaware, where he's been on holiday. he's going to be making an address from the oval office tomorrow. the president understood to be returning to the white house after several days out of the spotlight , with days out of the spotlight, with question marks as to where he was, were there. if you're watching on television, you can see him strongly climbing the steps of air force one bound on that flight from delaware. delaware to washington. and he said he's going to be explaining his plans for what he calls finishing the job, the presidential salute. there as he steps into air force one. and that coming as kamala harris asserts herself as the presumed democrat nominee to face republican donald trump in the race for the white house, she's already secured the support of senior democrats, including joe biden, but also nancy pelosi. significantly, yesterday and bill and hillary clinton. her campaign raising over $80 million yesterday. in just 24 hours after biden dropped out of the race and staying in

washington today, absolutely sensational develops developments there where the head of the us secret service resigned amid intense criticism of her handling of the attempted assassination of donald trump . assassination of donald trump. kimberly cheatle admitted to the congressional committee that the attempt on mr trump's life was in her words, the most significant operational failure by the us secret service for decades. and she said today she quit with a heavy heart. she'd been testifying before a congressional committee explaining her actions, saying as well, she took full responsibility for what went wrong . news here at home and the wrong. news here at home and the islamist preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation, which means he now faces life in prison. his trial found that he directed the group known as al—muhajiroun, for a significant period starting in 2014. he was also found to have engagedin 2014. he was also found to have engaged in support at online meetings of the islamic thinkers

society. that's a new york based islamist thinking group, and the government says it's going to shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of the overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. human rights campaigners have compared it to a prison ship and criticised its inhumane use. the barge will continue to house migrants until the contract expires next year. longer any longer would have cost the taxpayer an extra £20 million next year. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm back in an hour with more. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you polly, good evening to you. i'm martin daubney in for nigel farage. now. nigel is an important parliamentary duty, appearing in the commons for votes as we speak. but we will hear from the man himself when hear from the man himself when he comes out of chamber. our camera will be waiting for him. just yards from the green chairs around about 7:30 pm. now, earlier on today, nigel did make his maiden speech. fair to say it was vintage farage as he laid into the whole of the commons, saying he was surrounded by more lovers of the european union than when he was in the european parliament. let's hear a snippet of the ten minute speech. >> now what? i perhaps didn't expect was to come here and to find that i'm more outnumbered with my reform team, more outnumbered here than we were in the european parliament, because there are more supporters of brexit in the european parliament than i sense there are in this parliament of 2024. this is very much a remainers

parliament. i suspect in many cases it's really a rejoiners parliament. but the other issue, andifs parliament. but the other issue, and it's very interesting as we debate the king's speech, if you look at the speech itself , the look at the speech itself, the word immigration is mentioned only twice and asylum just once, and perhaps this is not a surprise, as when sir keir starmer laid out the six big priorities for the general election for the labour party , election for the labour party, he didn't mention legal or illegal immigration, and that's the other area in which i think the other area in which i think the five of us sitting over here are going to find ourselves massively outnumbered in this house, is because we actually do want to talk about these issues. you see, i believe that the population explosion is having

the biggest impact on the quality of life of ordinary folk than any other issue. >> well, the cat is amongst the pigeons and earlier on today, nigel farage also called for a referendum. of course he did . referendum. of course he did. for our membership of the echr. let's take a listen . let's take a listen. >> the financial rewards for smuggling people across the engush smuggling people across the english channel can now, can now net a gang 2 to ,3 million a week, whatever prison sentences or penalties are put upon them, there will always be people volunteering to make millions of euros a week. we will only stop this if we start deporting people that come illegally. then they won't pay the smugglers. but we'll only do that by leaving the echr but i've got a fun suggestion that i think would liven up politics, engage the public and see a massively increased turnout. why don't we have a referendum on whether we

continue to be members of the echr? yeah, yeah, got to say absolutely. >> textbook first speech, maiden speech. nigel farage calling for a referendum now to discuss that i'm joined in the studio by miriam cates, a former conservative mp and lord maurice glassman, former peer and academic. >> i'm still a peer. >> i'm still a peer. >> you're you're you said a peer. >> you're you're you said a peer. >> we've established that a former peer, you're not 80 and you're not a hereditary. so you should be fine. >> you're up here. >> you're up here. >> we've got that right. let's have a look at that speech. let's start with you, miriam cates. he said a very funny line i fell about. there are more remainers, he said, this is the remainers, he said, this is the remainer parliament. in fact, he said, this is a rejoiner parliament. quite a few groans on that . and then talks about on that. and then talks about the population explosion is having a bigger impact on british people's quality of life than any single other issue. and of course, then he asked for a referendum on the echr you've delivered many speeches in chamber. what is your opinion on nigel's first stint at the crease? >> well, i think it was very

confident. i think you shouldn't underestimate how difficult it is actually to stand up in that chamber. it's a very historic place, people do get nervous. i know nigel's very, very practised at public speaking, but to speak without notes , but to speak without notes, confidently, humorously, i thought it was an excellent speech. lots in there, i agree with. i'm sure he's right about the brexiteer rejoiner ratio, i'm not sure about his idea of fun. i'm not sure the british pubuc fun. i'm not sure the british public think referendums are fun after the experience of the last 5 or 10 years, but i think he makes an excellent point about the echr, although i don't think we should be too simplistic about it. if we did leave the echr, we'd need some major reform of our domestic human rights legislation. otherwise we would be in a big pickle. >> and lord glasman, it was very interesting. he talked about the magnitude of the asylum process, the immigration problem. we have . the immigration problem. we have. he was very he praised david blunkett, former labour home secretary, about how tough labour used to be, but then he said i don't expect this to happen. he said that won't happen. he said that won't happen under this labour government . why? because of the

government. why? because of the echr. we will not stop the boats by attempting to stop criminal gangs simply because it's too lucrative a business. do you think that's a fair point? this labour party won't have the bottle to tackle this in the same way, david blunkett did. >> no, i don't think it's a fair point. so just to say, first of all, that i'm a resolute brexiteer. i have many comrades in the labour party who support that. i think the government is moving in. this government is moving in. this government is moving into the right spaces as regards taking advantage of the opportunities that brexit opens up particularly, and this is my big argument with nigel farage, is that i'm pro ukraine. he seems to be pro—putin. i just don't understand it. so i'm looking forward to having a discussion about that , and we've discussion about that, and we've got yvette cooper, he said he's pro—putin. oh, he's always full of understanding. he's got a weakness for kind of authoritarian, tolerant, kind of foreign powers. he likes trump as well, but the point is, he has made very public statements that are pro—russia, and they my party is very pro ukraine and that's a huge difference between us and i. and david blunkett is

a very good friend of mine. he's a very good friend of mine. he's a very good friend of mine. he's a very strong ally. on my wing of the party. he's being heard . of the party. he's being heard. i wouldn't say, i don't know. you were an mp from the same area. i mean, i wouldn't describe yvette cooper as a liberal. exactly. she's quite pro law and order. i you know, don't jump to premature conclusions . labour said that it conclusions. labour said that it treats migration as a national security issue. personally, i'm in favour if it's a national security issue. we have to find military solutions. i'm in favour of boats in the english channel. you know, the navy in the english channel. >> so to the right of nigel. >> so to the right of nigel. >> right, left. you've got to get over it. what we've got to do is protect our national sovereignty. immigration is obviously a political issue when it comes to the echr you know, that's just part of tidying up the loose ends of brexit. to get out of that, we've got to be a sovereign nation. i trust our parliament to protect our liberties. i just think the tone of this, martin, is if i may, is, you know, i know your pro—eu

tendencies. i'd like to call you by your french name , is all of a by your french name, is all of a sudden we've been in power for 18 days and a whole hoo—ha over this . watch how this goes. this. watch how this goes. >> isn't isn't the problem, though , maurice, that whilst the though, maurice, that whilst the people at the top might be sensible and they will hopefully be getting sensible advice, there's a whole load of backbenchers who are very ideological about this question who want rwanda ditch. not because it may or may not work, but but just it doesn't fit with their ideology. and if those in power, if the cabinet do try to crack down on immigration, they'll actually find the main opposition from their own backbenchers. >> well, welcome to the soviet union. we've got an enormous majority. thank you. and what i see is actually a quite leninist party leadership. they're very disciplined. you may have noficedin disciplined. you may have noticed in the election how extraordinarily did you hear a squeak about brexit from labour party candidate? we support brexit. keir starmer said it is unimaginable that we will rejoin in our lifetimes . so i think in our lifetimes. so i think nigel's going off half cocked here. i think he's attacking a

paper tiger. labour is extremely disciplined that we support brexit, leaving the eu, that immigration is a national security issue. 18 days in i wouldn't get too excited. >> okay, let's move on, miriam and maurice, to a story that surely will have angered nigel farage is that labour is to grant asylum to 70,000 migrants who are due to be part of the rwanda deportation scheme . rwanda deportation scheme. yvette cooper, the home secretary, says it will save the taxpayer £7.7 billion with the news that bibby stockholm is to close , and raf scampton in close, and raf scampton in lincolnshire, and also wethersfield raf in essex, are also due to be shut down. so with almost 1500 migrants arriving by small boats in one week, where are they going to go? well, somebody who i hope can answer that question is tony smith, who's the former director general of the uk border force, who joins me in the studio. welcome to the show, tony. so rwanda scrapped on day one. bibby stockholm stopped today .

bibby stockholm stopped today. as i said, sir keir starmer has finally stopped a boat wethersfield, to be scrapped. that was due to be the site for 1500 and the same with scampton 1700 millions and millions and millions of pounds have been lost on these schemes . these lost on these schemes. these aborted schemes. now hotels are also off the menu. that begs a simple question where on earth are these people going to go? there's only one answer, and that's what angela rayner said. every part of britain will take their fair, their fair share of migrants. this will now turn into a dispersal scheme around the uk and the public won't have a say. >> well, i'm not a politician, i'm a practitioner and i work for many different governments of many different colours, including back in the day with david blunkett and tony blair, and stuck in the immigration business for all this time . so business for all this time. so i see this through a slightly different lens. perhaps to, to some people. i mean, i think firstly you need to see what the condition is that this government has inherited about over 100,000 130,000 odd cases of people who have arrived by

irregular means since march 23rd. so there are a series of cohorts. they called backlog cohorts. they called backlog cohorts in the home office that need to be dealt with. up until now, those people have been served with notices saying they are liable to be removed to a safe third country, rwanda, and therefore have not been admitted into the uk asylum system. in other words, they've been kept in limbo . what this government in limbo. what this government is saying, well, we are now going to scrap that and we're going to scrap that and we're going to scrap that and we're going to admit them all into the asylum system. so all of those 120,000 can now claim asylum doesn't mean to say they'll all get asylum, but you're right in that the projections, if you go by the projection rate of 60 to 62, i think previous grant rates, then 60, 65% will get either asylum or potentially exceptional leave. you can give people discretionary leave other than asylum and let them stay. but either way, that will then mean that people will not be longer held in accommodation centres like the bibby or in hotels. they will be released into the communities and it will be for the local authorities essentially to pick up the

arrangements for integrating them into society , for those them into society, for those people that are granted permission to stay. but i think it's important to say not everybody will be given permission to stay. they may be some nationalities which will be removed because they can be refused asylum and still be removed to some countries, and indeed part of this new scheme by yvette cooper is to say go to the safe country. >> asylum seekers process from first albania, india, vietnam. nevertheless tony, 62% of that amount is 70,000. granted the right to remain. and as nigel farage said, with the financial rewards for one gang at ,3 million a week, and now with no deportation, no boats, no raf sites, instead a nice council house dispersed into british communities. this will send out a message to the people smugglers that britain's open for business. yeah, but this is a global problem. >> it's not just a uk challenge and i think we need to remember that. so if you look at the latest frontex figures, actually a migration across the eu border, the external border is down 30% this year. there has been quite a lot of work done in the central med. in some of the

routes. it's up on the eastern border, it's up on the west african border. we need to look at that. frontex. european border agents are trying to secure the external borders. they're having more luck in some parts. it's a huge border to manage some of them, their exit rate over to the uk is 25. so more are coming across from the eu pool. this is the big challenge. we've got . so we have challenge. we've got. so we have to talk to the eu. each member state has got a different grant rate. if you look at the grant rates, our grant rates much higher actually than many european countries. and if you look at that poor girl that drowned the 14 year old girl that drowned recently, actually, she'd already her her family had already claimed for asylum in belgium and in sweden, and they were from iraq . and he still were from iraq. and he still felt it necessary to put his daughter in a boat to the uk, because his perception was she would be allowed to stay here. so we need to look at our grant rates. surely if we're all members of the european convention on human rights, we're all members of the refugee convention, we should have a fairly consistent policy about who qualifies for asylum and who doesn't qualify asylum. and also on removals. i mean, where are we as you say? where are we

going to remove people? so i actually felt rwanda was quite a bold move by the previous administration, because it did give you an additional outlet. and even in the states now, biden is looking at saying even. and that's a very liberal policy over there. if you come between the borders, you cannot be admitted into the us asylum system. that's a very bold move for a government. so i think there's something about how we as a, you know, as a global community, bring the panel in. >> and miriam, what's your take on this? i mean, it looks like i mean, this will surely send out a message of rolling out the red carpet. >> well, i think it will. and i think it was the not well, for a start, i live in a council flat andifs start, i live in a council flat and it's not very nice. >> this nice council flat. >> this nice council flat. >> nicer presumably than a war zone or wherever they claim to be coming. >> yeah, it's just red carpets and nice flats. i don't think that's the reality of the situation. i think a lot of people are looking for is, to be admitted into our system, to be given housing and to be given benefits. >> now, of course, some people coming over here will be genuinely fleeing war and persecution. but the problem is the system is flooded with people who aren't, who are

economic migrants, who are from france, who are coming from france, who are coming from france, who are coming from countries where they know we can't send them back. and so the problem is that because our system is so overwhelmed with people who aren't necessarily genuine asylum seekers, we can't give the right treatment to the people who are. and this is the problem that the government has been trying to solve for five years now, with very limited success. but scrapping the rwanda scheme seems ridiculous to me because at least we had a deterrent. it now is a total waste of money, but at least it had the potential to be salvaged. and i think the telegraph sent a journalist over to calais the week before the election, and they spoke to young men who were waiting for a labour government so that they could come across , knowing that could come across, knowing that they wouldn't be sent to rwanda. >> okay, well, i'll leave it there for now. we'll come back. oh, have a quick nibble, maurice. >> no, no, it's just, i mean, i just want to pay respect to tony and your service. over the years, what you just heard was a really reasonable man, giving a really reasonable man, giving a really reasonable man, giving a really reasonable view entirely. bless you. and keep going with that. >> good stuff. thank you very much. panel. now coming up, it's set to be kamala harris vie

donald trump. can she beat the donald? we'll discuss that next. and we'll also hear from nigel farage soon. don't go anywhere.

welcome back. i'm martin daubney , welcome back. i'm martin daubney, and this is the farage show. now benefit fraud is costing taxpayers £7.4 billion a year. according to figures released by the department for work and pensions benefit spending is at a stonking £266.1 billion and 22.7 million people now receive welfare payments. this, some say, is a deliberate target for organised crime groups. while the dwp says it is ramping up anti—fraud measures, including enhanced scrutiny of suspicious universal credit claims and also hiring more staff. but worryingly, it seems that attitudes towards benefit fraud has softened, with a recent survey revealed more people are

becoming indifferent about workers not even declaring cash in hand. jobs, which you may have to discuss. this is darwin friend, head of research at the taxpayers alliance. also still with my panel. miriam cates former conservative mp and lord maurice glasman, labour peer and academic. let's start with you, darwin. we were all led to believe that benefit fraud was a blip during covid. astonishingly, it's got worse. it wasn't a blip. it's set a new pattern. yeah, exactly. >> and what we've actually seen from the latest accounts from the department for work and pensions is that the propensity for fraud in our society as a whole is set to increase , and whole is set to increase, and that universal credit fraud is now not expected to ever fall back to pre—pandemic levels as was first expected. and when we look at the amount of universal credit fraud in the last year alone , it was £6.5 billion. now alone, it was £6.5 billion. now there's a lot of discussion in westminster at the minute, about 5.5% pay rises for teachers and for nurses and lifting the

universal, the two child benefit cap. well, both of those things could be paid for if they clamp down on benefits . fraud in the down on benefits. fraud in the department first. >> sounds good, but the intention might be there. what about the modus operandi? how do they do it? they haven't managed to recoup anything since covid. what's going to change now? >> well, that is the key question, martin. and i don't know about you, but i think the department simply throwing in the towel as they have done and saying that the issue of fraud in our society is inexorably just going to rise. and there's nothing we can do about that, frankly, isn't good enough from a government department. when we look at how the country has dealed with crises such as these in the past, it's not like this . in the past, it's not like this. and more fundamentally, i think the department for work and pensions has an obligation actually to crack down on this practice so that then taxpayers money is being spent on the public's priorities instead of dished out to benefit frauds. >> now, rachel reeves announced yesterday plans to appoint a benefits fraud commissioner. they're hopeful hopeful of recouping £2.6 billion. are you

hopeful that this will have any teeth? >> well, i'm hoping that it will. i welcome the fact that they're seriously wanting to look at this as an issue. but what really concerns me about this is it's yet another quango. and frankly, that's going to come at an expense to taxpayers as well. so i think before they proceed with any new quango such as this, they really need to drill down into the detail and see whether it's actually going to have any impact on the problem, or whether it's just going to be another cost for taxpayers to shell out for. >> okay, let's bring in the panel now, maurice, let's start with you. fraud. a huge problem. it's not going away. in fact, it's getting worse. what do we need to do? do we need to have stiffer jail sentences? do we need to stop benefits at source? do we need much more stick and less carrot ? less carrot? >> yeah. i mean, first of all, let's say to darwin that i think you need to evolve, so to speak. i think liz kendall as dwp minister is pretty hard line. she's not from my wing at all of the party. but once again, as i said to you earlier, be open to the fact that welfare reform is

going to be a key characteristic of this government. >> in what way? a lot of people, for right or wrong, might know, have the have the attitude that the labour party is softer on benefits, likes the votes of people on benefits. why would they clamp down be the lazy assumption that you would i . mag|ne? imagine? >> but what i'm saying to you to be open to the fact that in this cabinet, there's two really strong reform welfare reform hardliners, there's liz kendall, and there's wes streeting. now they're very publicly said that this has got to change. i'm a big follower of frank field. there's got to be fundamental mutual, but we've got to also look at this in terms of, first of all, you know, just to say to darwin, you know, it's not just the state that people have lost trust in. there's also corporate crony capitalism in covid all that money going to friends of the prime minister. >> friends specifically benefits for all. we're talking about. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. but when we're talking about the decline of trust in society, it's not just i'm agreeing with you. there's a lack of trust in the

state and people are cheating. that's this is a really big problem for our society. and obviously i'm looking to my government, this labour government, this labour government, to restore some trust. part of that has got to be that you put in and you get out that reciprocity principle is fundamental. this is going to be a huge change. i mean, miriam, let's be truthful. we've been on the same side of this for a long time, and you've got to look at it in the balance. martin. you know, this is the balance we've got to find is that there's also capitalist corporates who cheat all the time . amazon is stealing data so time. amazon is stealing data so people are cheating amazon. so we've got to actually address the culture of cheating. why it is miriam. >> let's get back to benefits fraud amongst you know benefit claimants. the numbers are astonishing £266.1 billion in the last tax year spent on benefits. second only now to the nhs but 135 billion of that. >> so over half is the state pension. and i don't think anybody is organising crime around the state pension, although who knows. but i do

largely agree with maurice. this is a symptom of a low trust society. and any system like this where essentially you require people to be honest about their situation when they're claiming benefits, you require them to be honest about their income, about their working hours, about their dependents. if the vast majority of people are honest, the system will work. if you break down that trust and most people aren't on it unless they think they're going to get caught, how is the government supposed to solve that problem? you either have a high trust society, or you have a high surveillance society, and that's what we're looking at. and actually, before the election , mel stride, who the election, mel stride, who was the conservative dwp secretary, he was looking at introducing surveillance of people's bank accounts to require banks to tell the government if a person had more savings than they ought to have. now i find that terrifying. from a civil liberties point of view . a civil liberties point of view. but the fact is, if you can't trust people to be honest, that is what we're staring down the barrel of. and you can't just blame the government for that. yes, covid didn't help. people thought money was free. they didn't see the cost of it, and we're paying for that now. but actually, culture politics is

downstream of culture. our whole culture has changed. and unless it changes back to high trust society, we're just going to see more and more of this. okay. >> final word to you, darwin friend. do you think that's the answer? tony blair has stated the last few weeks we'd like to have digital id for everybody. is that the way now we're all going to have to have id because a few people cheat. we'll all be monitored. >> well, like miriam, i'm not particularly keen personally on having civil liberties infringed upon any further than they already are . but as was already are. but as was mentioned earlier, i really want this government to reset the relationship with the general public, not just in terms of benefits, but throughout the entire public sector, because it's only by resetting that relationship , it's only by resetting that relationship, building trust back with individuals throughout society that ultimately we're going to get grapple on this because before the pandemic, benefits and fraud were benefit fraud was around about 2.4% of the department of work and pensions budget spending . now pensions budget spending. now it's 6.7. so it's only by resetting that relationship that we're ultimately going to crack down on this issue. >> and darwin, what i'm saying to you is also not just public

sector, private sector fraud. i don't see your organisation going into that. and i urge you to go into. >> okay, guys, we have to move on.thank >> okay, guys, we have to move on. thank you very much. darwin friend. also, of course, miriam and maurice. now coming up, we'll hear from nigel farage very soon. we'll ask about his maiden speech and kamala harris vie

welcome back. this is farage with me. martin daubney. now it looks like it will be kamala harris versus donald trump . as harris versus donald trump. as she claims to have secured enough support to become the democratic party's presidential nominee. she's speaking in milwaukee this evening. in fact, she's walking on right now. let's cross over now to listen in hell. hey i'ma keep running cause a winner don't quit on themselves .

themselves. >> and . >> and. thank you . thank you , thank. thank you. thank you, thank. thank you. thank you, thank. thank you, thank you, thank you , thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you . thank you all. thank thank you. thank you all. thank you , thank you everyone. thank you, thank you everyone. thank you, thank you everyone. thank you , thank you. good afternoon . you, thank you. good afternoon. wisconsin . good afternoon everyone. >> thank you. it is good to be back. thank you all very much . back. thank you all very much. can we please hear it for leah and her extraordinary story and

leadership ? and i do believe our leadership? and i do believe our teachers do god's work. they teachers do god's work. they teach other people's children, and god knows we don't pay them enough. >> let's thank her. >> let's thank her. >> and it is so to good be here and be back with so many extraordinary leaders, including my friend, the great governor of wisconsin, tony evers . he's here wisconsin, tony evers. he's here somewhere . my dear friend , somewhere. my dear friend, senator tammy baldwin . and, you senator tammy baldwin. and, you know, i had the privilege of serving with tammy when i was in the united states senate. and she is always fighting for the people of this state. and i know that the folks that are here are going to make sure you return her to washington, dc. in november . yes, we are going to

november. yes, we are going to elect her back to washington, d.c. it is so good to be here also with lieutenant governor sarah rodriguez , attorney sarah rodriguez, attorney general josh cole , wisconsin general josh cole, wisconsin secretary of state sarah godlewski , county executive godlewski, county executive david david crowley , mayor david david crowley, mayor cavalierjohnson and david david crowley, mayor cavalier johnson and the david david crowley, mayor cavalierjohnson and the great state party chair ben wikler. >> who i have worked with, ben, you and i have been working together for years, and i can attest he knows how to build the infrastructure that delivers wins up and down the ballot. >> thank you. ben so it is good to be back in wisconsin, and it

is great to be in milwaukee. as many of you know, our state campaign headquarters are in this city. yes. and there is a reason for that. the path to the white house goes through wisconsin . yes. it does . and to wisconsin. yes. it does. and to win in wisconsin, we are counting on you right here in milwaukee . and you all helped us milwaukee. and you all helped us win in 2020 . and in 2024 we will win in 2020. and in 2024 we will win in 2020. and in 2024 we will win again . yes, you are . so win again. yes, you are. so milwaukee i want to start by saying a few words and i could really speak at length , but a really speak at length, but a few words about our incredible president joe biden . it has

president joe biden. it has truly been one of the greatest honours of my life to serve as vice president to our president, joe biden .joe's legacy of joe biden. joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career and over the past three, and a half years is unmatched in modern history in one term. think about it in one term as president, he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who served two terms in . office. and i know we are in. office. and i know we are all deeply, deeply grateful for his continuing service to our nafion his continuing service to our nation . and it is my great nation. and it is my great honour to have joe biden's endorsement in this . race. so

endorsement in this. race. so wisconsin, i am told as of this morning that we have earned the support of enough delegates to secure the democratic nomination . secure the democratic nomination. and i am so very honoured. and i pledge to you i will spend the coming weeks continuing to unite our party so that we are ready to win in november. so, friends, we have 105 days until election day and in that time we've got some work to do . but we're not some work to do. but we're not afraid of hard work. we like hard work, don't we? and we will

win this election . yes, we . will win this election. yes, we. will so, as leah told you before, i was elected vice president, before i was elected united states senator , i was elected states senator, i was elected attorney general of the state of california. and i was a courtroom prosecutor before then. and in those roles, i took on perpetrators of all kinds . on perpetrators of all kinds. predators who abused women , predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers , cheaters who broke consumers, cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain . so the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's .

type. and in this campaign , i promise and in this campaign, i promise you, i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week . as attorney general of the week. as attorney general of california, i took on one of our country's largest for profit colleges. that was scamming students. donald trump ran a for profit college that scammed students . as a prosecutor, students. as a prosecutor, i specialise in cases involving sexual abuse. well trump was found liable for committing

sexual abuse . as attorney sexual abuse. as attorney general of california, i took on the big wall street banks and held them accountable for fraud . held them accountable for fraud. donald trump was just found guilty of fraud on 34 counts. but let's also make no mistake this campaign is not just about us versus donald trump . this us versus donald trump. this campaign is about who we fight for. this is about who we fight for. this is about who we fight for . just look at how we are for. just look at how we are running our campaigns. so donald trump is relying on support from billionaires and big corporations, and he is trading access in exchange for campaign

contributions. a couple of months ago, you all saw that a couple months ago at mar—a—lago. he literally promised big oil companies, big oil lobbyists , he companies, big oil lobbyists, he would do their bidding for $1 billion in campaign donations. on the other hand, we are running a people powered campaign . campaign. and we just had some breaking news. we just had the best 24 hours. of grassroots fundraising in presidential campaign history. all right . and because we are

all right. and because we are a people powered campaign , that is people powered campaign, that is how you know, we will be a people first presidency. and wisconsin, this campaign is also about two different visions for our nation. one where we are focused on the future. the other focused on the future. the other focused on the past . we believe focused on the past. we believe in a future where every person has the opportunity not just to get by, but to get ahead . get by, but to get ahead. a future where no child has to grow up in poverty , where every grow up in poverty, where every worker has the freedom to join a .

worker has the freedom to join a. union. where every person has affordable health care . affordable health care. >> affordable childcare and paid family leave . family leave. >> okay, that was kamala harris. >> okay, that was kamala harris. >> that is kamala harris giving a speech in milwaukee, she kept saying we're in milwaukee. i think about 15 times. i got some reaction now from miriam cates and lord morris glassman . you and lord morris glassman. you were very keen there to wade in. she didn't say anything for the first five minutes. >> i want to say to everybody on gb news, thank god i'm not an american. that was pure murder. it was empty. it was vacuous . it was empty. it was vacuous. these big things going on in the world and trump and jd vance, by the way, are really jd vance is a serious politician. this was just hollow. md nonsense. it's going to be the slaughter of the

guilty, i think. miriam. >> well, this was her chance to lay out a big vision. what does she stand for? how is she going to differentiate herself from biden? and as morris said, she she said pretty much nothing for 5 or 6 minutes. and then repeated things that she said before. now i accept that us politics is very different to ours. we don't often have conventions where lots of people cheen conventions where lots of people cheer, but i think, you know , cheer, but i think, you know, where is the substance? where is the vision? what does she actually stand for? that's certainly not clear from those last ten minutes. >> well, she did a roll call. of all the people there. i thought that was going to go until tomorrow. it was like. it was like a bit like a wedding speech where she read out this person and, you know, things have passed. >> we've got to acknowledge now, you know, rishi sunak was not a politician. he was the kind of back room stats guy who would bnng back room stats guy who would bring you a venn diagram. we keep on developing these politicians who aren't leaders, who aren't politicians. she is one of them. and this is going to be very, very ugly. >> i'm joined in the studio by jacob rees—mogg, of course. state of the nation is next. you were lucky enough, to jacob, catch the tail end of that. did

she make a huge impression upon you? >>i you? >> i think when you're listening to political speeches, you should always think, could the person say the opposite? so would anyone ever stand up and say, i don't want any opportunity for any of you? and if they would never say the opposite, the speech is pointless. the speeches need to have some purpose, some focus to explain why what you're saying is going to improve people's lives is going to do something important. if you just say the hopey changey stuff, you don't actually get anywhere. >> okay, well, we had a speech earlier on full of points, and we're joined now by the man who spoke it, nigel farage, were joined by nigel farage, who's on his own show. nigel farage and you on your own show feels odd. storming speech earlier, the cat amongst the pigeons and straight away on your first day you asked for a referendum. tell us more. >> well, look, i mean, it's very interesting. i mean, yesterday the prime minister spoke and said our commitment to membership of the echr is absolute. rishi sunak , absolute. rishi sunak, responding to the opposition, didn't query that in any way at all. he sort of made a vague

reference in the election. so we might consider leaving. he never meant it. what? i've been very struck by martin is how similar the two parties are. there was a chap up earlier, bob blackman from harrow east. i sort of thought, well, why is he on this side of the house? he'd be more comfortable on the other side of the house. so so yeah, you know, i said, look, i don't believe that until you deport people you will stop illegals crossing the engush will stop illegals crossing the english channel. and how interesting that back in the days of david blunkett, even up to the end of the last labour government, we were deporting tens of thousands of people a yeah tens of thousands of people a year. so i suggested, for a bit of fun , wouldn't it be great to of fun, wouldn't it be great to have a referendum on the echr because the country had vote to leave this parliament, i felt more outnumbered in the last week here than i ever did in brussels . more brexiteers in brussels. more brexiteers in brussels. more brexiteers in brussels than there are in this westminster parliament. this is a remainer parliament. it's a rejoiner parliament. it's a

globalist parliament. it's a parliament totally unconcerned with massive population growth. so we may be the five of us from reform uk. we may be very much in the minority with a few conservatives having the guts to back us. but i think in the country we've got huge support . country we've got huge support. >> and nigel, you were you were heaping praise on david blunkett, the home secretary in the blair years , for being tough the blair years, for being tough on deportation. but you're quick to point out you had absolutely no faith in this labour government to follow in his footsteps. tell us more . footsteps. tell us more. >> well, look, i mean, you know, labour set out, starmer set out six key priorities for the general election immigration, either legal or illegal, wasn't evenin either legal or illegal, wasn't even in those six. and in the king's speech, immigration is mentioned twice. asylum is mentioned twice. asylum is mentioned once. the idea that we're going to, you know, go after the gangs. i mean, what a load of baloney we've been going after the drugs gangs for decades with almost no effect, and on legal immigration, they

have nothing to say. both main parties , in my opinion, are in parties, in my opinion, are in hock to giant multinational businesses who want as much cheap labour as they can possibly get. and to hell with the social consequences and the and the reality is that we have very little difference on this and many other issues between a labour government and the last one for led 14 years and headed up one for led 14 years and headed ”p by one for led 14 years and headed up by the conservatives >> and nigel, another big announcement today, the bibby stockholm, the first boat that sir keir starmer has stopped, that's going to get the chop. raf scampton, raf wethersfield looking like they're going to get the chop. and this can only mean one thing nigel. the hotels are also being closed down by the labour party. this could only mean one thing. the widespread dispersal of asylum seekers and illegal immigrants throughout the united kingdom. nigel what do you think voters will make of that when, as angela rayner said, this is a responsibility for every constituency in britain without them having a say.

>> yeah. i mean, look, you know, what's going to happen is those that are here illegally will all be just fast tracked through the system and be allowed to stay. and what a contrast that is. yvette cooper will make illegals legal. the last labour government all those years ago deported them in their tens of thousands every single year. and what can the conservatives say? well, actually, they were doing the same thing. 75% of those young men that crossed the channel were being given asylum. refugee status, albeit it took them a long time. and look, you know, i believe two things. one, that the exploding population is diminishing the quality of life of everybody in our country. and number two, i have said for four years, this is a national security crisis. keir starmer even paid lip service to that dunng even paid lip service to that during the election campaign. these are young , undocumented these are young, undocumented males coming from war zones, coming from places where terrorism is rife , coming from

terrorism is rife, coming from cultures of gang warfare and coming from places where women aren't even second class citizens. this is a social disaster for our country. you only have to look what's happenedin only have to look what's happened in malmo and sweden now in terms of rape and murder , in terms of rape and murder, right at the top of the tree, after they allowed a huge number of young males from the middle east and elsewhere to go there. this is a social disaster. >> well, nigel farage, thank you very much for joining >> well, nigel farage, thank you very much forjoining us on the very much for joining us on the farage show. i'm keeping the chair warm. hope to have you back tomorrow. thank you very much. a quick reaction from the panel much. a quick reaction from the panel. in fact, miriam cates, you are now presenting on gb news. in fact, you are doing britain's newsroom 930 to midday. you're on tomorrow . midday. you're on tomorrow. what's on your show? >> well, i expect we'll be talking about immigration. i expect we'll be talking about kamala harris. but we've also got a story about jd vance. there's a clip that's emerged on twitter today of him talking about how the democrat party is controlled by people who don't have children and making the case that they're therefore not invested in the future. now, of course , this is very

course, this is very controversial. i think they're very much two sides to this story, but we'll be discussing that. but yes, i'm still finding my feet and learning to use the autocue. so it's all good fun. >> you did a great job. and jacob rees—mogg called state of the nation is coming up next. what's on your menu? well, we're going to be starting talking about the family and the fact that the state hates the family and doesn't have any policies that help it, whereas all the evidence is that people brought up in a stable family have better life chances. >> and we've got the row in the labour party on the two child limit. that's not the point. the point is that there's no help for people with families . for people with families. indeed, you get money from the state for anybody to look after your children as long it's not a parent. >> we've got to stop jacob rees—mogg is next. thank you very much. miriam cates and lord maurice glasman for joining very much. miriam cates and lord maurice glasman forjoining me. i'll be back tomorrow, three till six. that's my show coming up next. state of the nation. first social weather with alex deakin. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

weather on gb news. >> evening. thanks forjoining me for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. for many, it's dry overnight and it'll be another fine day tomorrow with some good spells of sunshine later on though. cloud and rain, which is lurking behind me will start to spread in to parts of the west. we've seen a few showers around today. they're fading now this evening, so generally it's a dry night. bit of mist and fog here and there, but most areas just staying clear and some staying quite mild as well. quite a warm night in the south. temperatures holding up in the teens here a little lower across scotland and northern england, but generally a fine start to wednesday. some cloud but many areas starting off with a bit of sunshine and much of northern scotland will stay fine and sunny through the day. some of the highest temperatures, likely on the moray firth through the afternoon. across northern ireland, generally a dry and a bright start, but we are going to see the cloud increasing here and start to push in some outbreaks of rain as we go through the morning, much of england and wales starting dry fine with some good spells of sunshine and bit of sunshine.

this time of year soon start to lift those temperatures as well. so as we go through the day we will see this cloud increasing across the west. there's the rain spreading into northern ireland and also further east lincolnshire down towards cambridgeshire, across norfolk, suffolk. 1 or 2, possibly heavy showers are possible through the middle part of the day, but many areas staying dry until this rain creeps into west wales , rain creeps into west wales, cornwall, the isles of scilly, maybe south—west scotland later on as well as turning damp across northern ireland with the cloud and the rain in the west a little cooler than today, but further east a little warmer than today. 26 or 27. the showery rain will continue to spread and we will see some heavier bursts through wednesday evening across scotland that tends to pull away during thursday and then down to the south. a different day, with some heavier bursts of rain coming in across southern counties of england during thursday . some lively showers thursday. some lively showers for scotland and northern ireland. but in between northern england, parts of wales generally dry everywhere. a touch cooler on thursday , a touch cooler on thursday, a brighter outlook with boxt solar

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>> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg, on state of the nation. tonight, amid the potential labour rebellion on the two child benefit cap. tonight, we will show you how the tax and benefit system discourages people from tying the knot and expanding their broods . labour's noms plan for broods. labour's noms plan for illegal migration is under the microscope. the refugee council has said as many as 70,000 700,000 migrants could be granted asylum under the new socialist regime, as keir starmer plans to crack down on second jobs, it poses the question should mps be allowed them at all? tonight i will break my silence on this matter. plus the bbc wage bill has been released and while a recalcitrant left wing activist who talks about association

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