>> it's 9:00. how are you? this is patrick christys tonight with me. mark dolan , immediately me. mark dolan, immediately lifting 300,000 children out of poverty by scrapping this cruel policy. breaking tonight starmer suspends seven rebel mps. is labour on the brink of civil war? also on the way , no cost of war? also on the way, no cost of living crisis over at the bbc as former star huw edwards is paid nearly half £1 million of your

money to sit on his hands at home. i'll be dealing with our national state broadcaster in no uncertain terms, in just a moment. also tonight, the figures that the home secretary used at the despatch box yesterday were nonsense. >> and the problem was the rwanda plan. >> our last hope of stopping the boats also . more problems boats also. more problems for the bbc is strictly come dancing. one more scandal away from the axe. i'll be asking former strictly star kristina rihanoff . plus, should we be rihanoff. plus, should we be scared of joe biden's ultra left wing replacement ? wing replacement? >> i am kamala harris. my pronouns are she and her. i am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit. >> i'm wearing a black suit and i'm a gentleman. you're welcome on my panel tonight , columnist on my panel tonight, columnist and broadcaster esther krakue , and broadcaster esther krakue, former adviser to michael gove. he'll never live that one down.

charlie rowley and best selling author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. oh, and nigel farage has made his maiden speech in the house of commons. >> but i've got a fun suggestion that i think would liven up politics, engage the public and see a massively increased turnout . turnout. >> still unreal to see him in parliament, but what on earth could he be talking about ? parliament, but what on earth could he be talking about? i shall reveal all shortly. let's get to work . get to work. are we getting ripped off by the bbc? my verdict . next. bbc? my verdict. next. >> the latest from the gb newsroom. at two minutes after 9:00, the shadow home secretary , 9:00, the shadow home secretary, james cleverly, has said he's running to be the next leader of

the conservative party. the former foreign and home secretary said the conservatives needed to re—establish its reputation as the party who, in government helps grow the economy, helps people achieve their goals, their dreams and their goals, their dreams and their aspirations. his policy platform includes backing lower taxes, a much smaller state, supporting businesses and increasing defence spending to 3% of uk gdp . meanwhile, in a 3% of uk gdp. meanwhile, in a development in westminster tonight , the seven labour mps tonight, the seven labour mps who voted against the government on an amendment to scrap the two child benefit cap have had the whip suspended. they include the former shadow chancellor john mcdonnell, and the former shadow business secretary rebecca long—bailey. more than 40 labour mps recorded no vote at all, with some of those listed spotted in the chamber throughout the day, whilst others were missing the vote. that suspension for six months in the united states, the vice president, kamala harris, has launched her presidential

campaign. speaking to cheering democrat supporters in wisconsin this evening, she set out her aims in the race for the white house. she criticised donald trump, saying he wanted to take the country backwards and she pledged tighter red flag gun laws, as well as promising to protect women's reproductive rights. she's already secured the support of senior democrats, including the top man, joe biden. but most significantly, nancy pelosi yesterday, as well as hillary and bill clinton. meanwhile, the president himself arrived in washington in preparation for an address he's going to make from the oval office tomorrow. he's going to be explaining his plans for what he calls finishing the job. kamala harris said it had been a pleasure to work for president biden . biden. >> it has truly been one of the greatest honours of my life to serve as vice president, to our president, joe biden .joe's

president, joe biden. joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career and over the past three, and a half years is unmatched in modern history , and unmatched in modern history, and it's been a busy day in washington. >> the head of the us secret service resigned this afternoon amid intense criticism of her handung amid intense criticism of her handling of the attempted assassination of donald trump. kimberly cheatle admitted that the attempt on mr trump's life was, in her words, the most significant operational failure by the us secret service for decades. and she said she had quit with a heavy heart. she was testifying yesterday before a congressional house committee explaining her actions, saying she took full responsibility for what happened. news here at home now and the islamist preacher anjem chowdhury has been found guilty of directing a terrorist organisation. he now faces life in prison. his trial found that he'd directed the terrorist group known as al—muhajiroun for

a significant period starting in 2014. he was also found to have encouraged support at online meetings of the islamic thinkers society. that's a group in new york with islamist ideology . and york with islamist ideology. and just lastly, the olympic dressage champion, charlotte dujardin, has been handed a six month provisional ban over a video showing her making what's called an error of judgement dunng called an error of judgement during a training session with a horse. earlier, it was announced she had withdrawn from the olympics over that video resurfacing from four years ago. she's a three time olympic dressage champion and she's had to therefore pull out of all competitions. whilst that incident was reinvestigated and that ban was handed out, she said. what happened four years ago was out of character. she's sorry for what she did and she is devastated to have let everyone down. those are the latest gb news headlines for now . latest gb news headlines for now. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the

very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good evening. no cost of living crisis at the state funded bbc. shock. new figures reveal that gary lineker is still top of the big earners leaderboard, raking in over £1.3 million a year for introducing clips of football, whilst bbc lifer zoe ball pulls in just shy of a million big ones. a year to play of a million big ones. a year to play records on the radio. whilst she sips a starbucks cappuccino. other coffee brands are available and most shockingly, it's been revealed today that ex—bbc news presenter huw edwards, who was suspended in july 2023 over allegations in the sun newspaper of paying a

young person for sexually explicit photos. well, he managed to increase his salary to almost half a million pounds, even though he wasn't on air, paid a fortune not to work. welcome to the bbc. meanwhile greg james, stephen nolan and lauren laverne and a bunch of other people you've never heard of between them will pocket well over £1.2 million this year alone . now, would they get that alone. now, would they get that on the open market, in commercial radio or on commercial radio or on commercial tv? do me a favour. why does auntie pay over the odds for its talent? there is no business or indeed moral case for these crazy wages. not when your poor old granny is threatened with jail for not forking out £160 a year on the licence fee. in fact, it takes over 8000 grannies just to cover saint gary lineker's wages. a

man who has shown utter contempt for the bbc's impartiality rules with his pronouncements on the environment, the government's rwanda scheme and, most shockingly, his remarks about the war in gaza. >> constant images of children losing their lives day in, day out. now, obviously we all know what you know, october 7th happened and you know, the hamas thing. but the worst single attack on jews since the holocaust, the hamas thing . holocaust, the hamas thing. >> and whilst the invoices from gary lineker's agent keep on coming, bbc viewers are leaving in their droves, the corporation's in—house newsletter, the guardian, report that half a million households cancelled their licence fee last year alone. is it any wonder , year alone. is it any wonder, given a perceived political bias , given a perceived political bias, unfunny woke comedies and right on finger wagging storylines on shows like doctor who and eastenders? now i like the bbc,

it's a great british asset and i want it to stay, but the output has got to represent the whole of the country, not just islington in north london and with an annual income of over £5 billion, it's got to start living within its means. the bbc is overpaying its pointless celebrities and is fast becoming the weakest link . let's get the weakest link. let's get reaction now from my top panel tonight. columnist and broadcaster esther krakue. we've also got political commentator and former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley and author and best selling broadcaster amy nicole turner. great to see all three of you. this evening. where do we start, charlie? is the bbc still worth the money, >> it is because, like you, i mean, you have to think about that, didn't you? well, because someone that supported the bbc. like you, i am a fan of the bbc,

but i want the bbc to go back to its fundamental principles of informing, educating and entertaining. now, in order to entertain, you're going to have to spend a significant amount of money on good talent. gary lineker is a fantastic football pundit. we've had a fantastic set of euros where he rightly was criticised for being too critical of gareth southgate, by the way. but that's by the by. but he is a brilliant football pundit. he should stay in that lane. it is a failure of the bbc not to make sure they give him the proper contract, which makes sure you say he's not that he can't actually be so political. exactly. the impartiality of the bbc is absolutely integral to its principles and its brilliance. but if you break that , then that's when the that, then that's when the system totally collapses. so the bbc need to sort out its contracts. of course, people will be asking about huw edwards, how you can't work for a year and have a pay increase. so even though i am a fan of the bbc, when you hear stories like this, it does erode your trust. your heart does sink a bit, but if the bbc can get its act together, i think it should stay

and i think it should continue to inform, educate and entertain. >> well, esther, what do you think? >> with that? i think there are some people that you'll never convince about, convince them or convince about, convince them or convince them about the value of the bbc because they're forced to pay for it so far as people are forced to pay for it, there will always be that small group of people in society that are just no matter what it does, it's just not acceptable because they don't want to live with having to pay the licence fee. i also think it's unfortunate that the bbc is in an era of netflix and amazon prime, and paramount, where you know you can pay £10 a month and basically get so much choice in terms of content . but choice in terms of content. but i do think you're right. you they have to it has to return to its core principles. there are some things that i think are necessary for the bbc. i think it's a shame that they've closed a lot of sort of local radio stations where young people use those avenues as a way to get into media. i thought that that that's a real shame. i would actually be happy to pay for them to bring that back. >> bbc local radio was also great for the community as well. >> exactly. i would i would happily see them cut things like strictly and all the rubbish that i don't need to watch, and all these series with like, you

know, the one eyed transgender, muslim or whatever diverse cast that's right. >> and a bunch of middle aged detectives mumbling. exactly. i mean, i don't know about you. i can't actually hear what they're saying on the bbc now. >> well, apparently that's dignified speaking, but i don't need any of that. i would just if they could just keep it to the bare minimum of what we would expect of them, and foster young, foster young talent 5 billion a year, of which 3 billion a year, of which 3 billion is licence fee income . billion is licence fee income. >> would you slash that. >> would you slash that. >> no. well i would i would do they need, do they need 5 billion. we need . no they don't billion. we need. no they don't need 5 billion i think we need a reduction. but we do gb news on about atp. it should be i think it should. >> and our audience is growing i think i think it should be somewhat uniform with what we pay somewhat uniform with what we pay for. >> like netflix. and they have to keep up with with what the streamers are making. >> well, the bbc has brought itself into disrepute, hasn't it? paying gary lineker over £1 million to play football clips. gary lineker's audience actually dropped when he was on air dunng dropped when he was on air during match of the day. when he was suspended. the figures went up. eamonn. >> no, i did think you were going to bring that one up and i was thinking it myself. but then charlie mentioned the euros and the euros were streamed on bbc

and itv, weren't they? >> and bbc one by quite a long time, the bbc always wins and it's not exactly gary lineker, is it? not though i don't think so, no. well, match of the day ratings went up when he was absent, when he suspended. >> but then when, whenever gary lineker is not there and they have pundits like alex scott, people moan about that as well. and i do think esther's got a point that we need to nurture, talent and bring back local radio. and also what's happened to newsnight has been really, really rubbish . and i was really rubbish. and i was thinking in my head, well, maybe if they paid these people slightly less, there'd be more funding for that. but it doesn't work because then if you, if you pay work because then if you, if you pay someone less, they come up in the ranks. they're lauded as an amazing broadcaster. what's going to happen? they're going to get poached like susanna reid did somebody else. that happens. it's never going to work. >> let me tell you, it happens to tottenham every season. huw edwards paid half £1 million to sit at home baking banana bread. >> that's that's misleading. we looked into that. we looked into that, that he's been paid. >> he's not been on telly. he was. that smacks of bad bbc management. >> no, he was paid for overtime. he did overtime. >> amy nicholl they don't care because it's not their money.

it's ours. i think they think, well, maybe let amy make her point . point. >> amy, i think esther's going to make the same point. what are you going to have that in any. >> you guys weren't brought here to agree with each other. i know, but i do. that's not the formula. this is a rare day, a red day. i think there's something a bit undignified about having these people's salaries. plus there's like, oh, this person doesn't have that much. this person doesn't have that much. we can do that literally at itv, channel five, channel 4. we can do that at any station. i'm not. that's not what i have a problem with. is the bbc doing what it was fundamentally created to do? and there are legitimate questions. >> i have a big problem with the money. they're spending £950,000. the radio two breakfast show host, to play a few records and say it's nice and sunny outside. have a good day. >> presented radio for a long time and you know, there's a lot more to it. >> there is, but it's not. it's not 900 grand's worth of public money, charlie. but i guess that's the competitive market. it's not if those forms are willing to pay me, i'll. of course, they couldn't prise me out of this gold plated gb news contract that i'm on. but the whole point is that this is the private sector. this is gb news. i'm paid to have an opinion. my salary, all salaries are a private matter because it's a

private matter because it's a private company. this is public money we're talking about here. this is grannies who by law are forced to pay the licence fee . forced to pay the licence fee. charlie, briefly if you can. >> well, these are also people who are very talented. and if they do leave the bbc, why do you keep saying they're so talented? >> well, they are what's involved in playing a few football clips because they will attract. >> well, because there are lots of people that are interested. do you think people watch match of the day for gary lineker? no |, of the day for gary lineker? no i, i think should be lobotomised. i, i think should be lobotomised. i certainly think that they watch, they watch, they watched match of the day for gary lineker for his channel five football commentary. certainly not his views on a political commentary. so he is a good football commentator? yes. i didn't say he wasn't. no, no, no, i don't know. >> i've got no skin in this game. >> but but the reality is it is a fundamental failure of the bbc, for example, of huw edwards okay, the salaries are published. there should be absolutely no way he should have had an increase in his salary. but he worked more. but that is he hasn't worked for an entire yeah he hasn't worked for an entire year. but he had a year off. >> no, hang on a minute. because over the coronation time, i'll come to you in a moment. >> but that's what i'm saying. i'm agreeing with you that the failure of the bbc to keep their

contracts in proper order, so you don't see these increases in pay you don't see these increases in pay when somebody briefly, amy, my concern for the beeb because i want it to exist, i think the licence fee is completely unjustified now and it's got to go and i think it will go because people are already not paying because people are already not paying the licence fee. >> i think it was last year, half a million people stopped paying half a million people stopped paying it, 3 million last few years have actually stopped paying years have actually stopped paying it. so in the end it's going to disappear anyway. my worry about the bma medical is it's going to be like the nhs, something we're all forced to pay something we're all forced to pay for, but which only some of us use. us use. >> us use. >> possibly. but at which point it's game over. when you could comparable countries with license fees , they look at ours license fees, they look at ours with envy and say that's great value. they get so much more than we do and they can pay it. but do they watch doctor who with envy? it's good to have a big, sparse, broad offering, which is what the bbc does so well and when you look at other places with state broadcasters, they don't do it as well. we do state broadcasting very well. >> okay. well listen, speaking earlier today, the bbc's director general, tim davie, said no one wants to waste a pound, but we need to act

proportionately and fairly and i think that's what we did prior to any breaking of the huw edwards story. people do get pay rises for extending extended responsibility and more hours of work, so that's fairly normal . work, so that's fairly normal. and that is what resulted in the change. still to come as more shock allegations emerge is strictly come dancing. one more scandal away from the axe. i'll be asking former strictly star kristina rihanoff. i'll be asking is the show now dangerous for the stars? but up next, as shadow home secretary james cleverly attacks labour for their treatment of the kigali government, was the rwanda plan our last hope of stopping the boats ? we'll debate that

next. welcome back to the show . coming welcome back to the show. coming up. as more shock allegations emerge, is strictly come dancing. one more scandal away from the axe. i'll be asking former strictly star kristina rihanoff. but first was the rwanda plan . our last hope of rwanda plan. our last hope of stopping the boats . the former stopping the boats. the former home secretary, james cleverly, who, by the way, is now a tory leadership hopeful, has launched a blistering attack on labour's yvette cooper earlier today after she claimed that the now scrapped rwanda plan cost the

taxpayer £700 million. >> well, the figures that the home secretary used at the despatch box yesterday were nonsense. and the problem she's got, she seems to forget that there's only a few weeks ago that i was the home secretary, so i know exactly how much money has been spent on rwanda. and at the point that the election was called, it was just shy of 300,000,700 million figure complete nonsense. the fact is that controlling our borders is never free and the cost of inaction will be considerably higher. we cleverlys intervention comes just days after the refugee council warned that labour's decision to allow small boat arrivals to claim asylum could see 70,000 migrants remaining in the uk. >> and it didn't take long for suella braverman to stick the bootin suella braverman to stick the boot in on that decision. here she was speaking on lbc earlier today that says an amnesty that says it doesn't matter how you

got here, doesn't matter if you broke our rules, doesn't matter if you played our system, if you're not a genuine refugee, doesn't matter how you came to the country. >> we're going to let you stay here. i think that's a bit worrying. personally, i think that's sending that's flashing the green light to the people smugglers. i think that's saying that britain is open. >> and so it begs the question , >> and so it begs the question, was the rwanda plan our last hope of stopping the boats? let me know your thoughts. head to gbnews.com forward, slash your say or tweet us @gbnews and do vote in the poll. i'll bring you the results shortly. but first, going head to head on this are the political commentator andy williams and the former conservative mp ranil jayawardena. andy, welcome to the show. thank you. if you object to the rwanda plan and if you were somebody that wanted it scrapped , you're not serious scrapped, you're not serious about stopping the boats, are you? >>i you? >> i think there are alternative

ways. i mean, firstly, i think the rwanda plan was a very expensive gimmick. i think manifestly it didn't work and wasn't going to work if it had been pursued. i don't believe it was the deterrent that it was claimed to be. and we have to take an alternative approach . take an alternative approach. and it might sound boring and it might sound nebulous , like lots might sound nebulous, like lots of things. keir starmer is saying but actually i think there are two really important things here. one is closer cooperation with our european allies is incredibly important. good luck with that. well, it's not going to be easy, but i think we've already seen some very early green shoots of progress at the epc blenheim palace last week. and secondly, there is something about stopping this problem at source. now, i'm not saying that's going to be easy and it might even fail, but surely it's worth a go saying there is some deterrent where there was no evidence for it. i just don't think that was going to be viable. >> andy, do you think that the irish taoiseach is a liar? >> no, because he's on record as saying the rwanda plan was working before it even started, because migrants were avoiding the uk altogether and going straight to mainland.

>> republic of ireland. >> republic of ireland. >> well, that i'm sure that's a that's a handful of people who are going straight to mainland repubuc are going straight to mainland republic of ireland. but there was still it may have been in the hundreds, but the numbers of people coming across on small boats was going up and up and up. now, you may say there wasn't time for the plan to take effect, but, you know, it was already there in the pipeline. flights were about to get off. why the election was called before that happened, i don't know, that's a different question. >> lovely to see you, ranil. welcome back to the show. listen, it was an expensive farce, wasn't it? the rwanda plan, a £700 million white elephant. not at all. >> i mean, if you look at what happenedin >> i mean, if you look at what happened in australia, where they did something very similar, it acted as a deterrent and it stopped people coming in small boats to australia . now, i think boats to australia. now, i think from the labour party, not only is keir starmer nebulous, not my words, but also a polite word, but but also, i think this is not only bad government, but bad politics. bad government. because they've now got no plan to really properly deal with this threat of small boats

coming across this summer. but bad politics. because even if they believed it wouldn't work, they've not given it a chance to be proven wrong. we would have kept it going. we would have proven that it was right and they've not given us the chance. >> here's somebody that didn't believe in the rwanda plan, and that was the former prime minister, rishi sunak. that's why he called a snap election, because he knew those flights wouldn't go off in july. >> well, i personally regret that there was an election in july. i personally would have either gone earlier in may when there was elections across across the country or gone later in november, but i don't think you can say he didn't believe in it because he was the one who absolutely was putting all the resources of the government behind making it happen. >> if he was convinced rwanda would have worked, then he'd have gone to the country in october or november, by which time he'd have stopped a significant number of the boats. >> well, i think what he did do was legislate so that the courts couldn't stop it, because you've got to remember, the leftie lawyers stopped it before, aided by people who keir starmer is very close to.

>> listen, andy, here's the issue with rwanda . i said issue with rwanda. i said earlier that if you're against it, then you're not serious about stopping the boats. the alternative is laughable, isn't it? it's more of the same. i mean, this is a command which is going to stop, you know, break up these gangs internationally. they're abroad, they're mobile. they're abroad, they're mobile. they have planes, trains , they have planes, trains, automobiles. they're impossibly hard to detect. the eu are already trying to do that. and failing abysmally complex problems require complex, multifaceted solutions. >> and the rwanda plan was a one trick pony. it was based on an idea that hadn't been proven. i know ranil, you say that it worked in australia, but it's a different context and i think what you need is european cooperation. you need to build relationships with the european leaders and get a deal with the eu. >> europe is struggling by itself. absolutely. does us joining the party help us? >> well, i think they're already overwhelmed with migrants to a much greater extent than us. >> and then they're the answer. >> and then they're the answer. >> they our idea. they they they are overwhelmed with migrants. but actually this is not this is not something that's going to go away. you unless you did

something that, in my view, would be beyond the pale if you took action that was so tough that it would be beyond the pale morally. i don't believe this is something that can be resolved on a state by state basis. this is a it requires cooperation , is a it requires cooperation, collaboration and collective imagination. >> cooperation with the enemy, the eu, the group that we've just spent many years trying to extricate ourselves from. and of course, you know, if you do a deal with the eu, they'll expect a reciprocal arrangement will take up to 100,000 migrants. anyway. doesn't sound like a win to me. but here's the thing, a lot of people are focused on the money. i would argue that given that the accommodation costs for the people that have already entered the country illegally is about £3 billion a year, that's more than the previous government's levelling up budget. i would say it's money, no object. i think if rwanda cost a billion or 2 billion or 3 billion, it's still worth the money. >> if it works, if it works, but it wasn't going to. >> why did keir starmer say he'd scrap it even if it did work? i mean, you've got more sense than him, haven't you? >> well, yeah.

>> well, yeah. >> i mean, if rwanda works, would you support it? you'll see if it worked. >> yes. but i my, my no might give it a chance because my, because i think it was manifestly obvious that it wasn't going to. you can't just say it will be a deterrent. we assume people won't come . assume people won't come. >> mystic meg, i'll tell you to see the picture . the bottom line see the picture. the bottom line is that plenty of other eu countries are looking at processing asylum claims abroad, including the danes and the italians. i understand ronald. yeah, exactly. >> you know , across europe there >> you know, across europe there has been a problem. they've not been very effective at dealing with it themselves in their own way, working together . and all way, working together. and all of those platitudes that we hear from the left. but actually copying our idea, they are now si king to make proper 10 or 11 eu nations seriously looking at processing. i always know gb news as well informed. >> well, there you go. okay, but andy, you get the last word. go for it. >> i just think i come back to the point about collaboration and cooperation. this is not something that can be resolved on a one by one basis. it's really complicated. and it needs we need to give something else another go. and actually tackling, tackling it is

complicated and tackling the problem at source by as keir starmer would say, smashing the gangs. there's no guarantee it will work, but it's worth a go. we're going to get in trouble with with lucy. >> but is it complicated? because actually what should happenis because actually what should happen is that if you enter the country illegally, you will never be granted asylum. and if you enter the country illegally, that application will likely be processed somewhere else in another safe country. two tory policies that labour have scrapped. >> well, as i say, i don't think it was a deterrent. there's no evidence whatsoever that it was a deterrent . different contexts, a deterrent. different contexts, but it worked in australia. >> all right. well, listen, let me tell you, this show is all about opinions. what is yours? what's the rwanda plan? our last hope of stopping the boats. i think that was a great debate, wasn't it? very balanced. but shelly on x says no. the royal navy is. why aren't they being used to defend our shores and our people? mike says rwanda was always a bad plan. the boats were always a distraction anyway , were always a distraction anyway, to shield the government from the amount of legal migration that they are allowing. andy, nodding his head, there , karl, nodding his head, there, karl, on your say, says labour have

just cost people loads of money by scrapping the rwanda plan. silly. not even to give it a go. and your verdict is in 68% of you agree that the rwanda plan is our last hope of stopping the boats. 32% agree with andy and say it was not. so coming up, has joe biden been the victim of an establishment coup? and by the way, where is he? and will his ultra left wing replacement kamala harris, be bad for britain ? i'll be speaking britain? i'll be speaking exclusively to a former us presidential candidate shortly. but next, as more shock allegations emerge, is strictly come dancing . one more scandal come dancing. one more scandal away from the axe. i'll be asking former strictly star rihanoff. she gives me her exclusive insight

next. welcome back. is labour on the edge of a civil war? we'll tackle that at ten. and still to come. has joe biden been the victim of an establishment coup? we get the expert analysis from a former democrat 2024 presidential candidate , jason presidential candidate, jason palmer. but first, the hit bbc show strictly come dancing has been thrown into chaos over a growing scandal relating to bullying and violence against its celebrity contestants. after two male professionals were dropped from the latest series due to complaints made against them , another two female dancers them, another two female dancers are facing damaging allegations.

paralympian will bailey claims that he was forced into making a lump that he was forced into making a jump that left him with injuries that still affect him to this day. this is a paralympian folks. his partner back in 2019, janette manrara, allegedly encouraged him to repeat the move, despite his team insisting that he wasn't physically capable of jumping elsewhere. former professional strictly dancer ola jordan has been branded cold, rude and tough by her celebrity partner. from 2014, steve backshall. he says her teaching style amounted to bullying, which led to him lodging a bbc complaint at the time. the scandal forced bbc director—general tim davie to issue an apology. this morning, assuring reporters that this year's series would guarantee increased vigilance around the professional dancers who began rehearsals. yes, yesterday , rehearsals. yes, yesterday, ahead of the series launch in september. well is strictly one

crisis away from the axe. let's speak to former strictly professional kristina rihanoff, who danced on the show between 2008 and 2015. christine, good to see you. is the show in trouble ? trouble? >> great to see you as well. thank you for having me, we had to see what's going to happen this year. i think they have to put more measures in place to keep everybody safe, celebrities. and of course , celebrities. and of course, professionals too. i spoke already about it that we also suffer, you know, like everyone else sometimes, feeling overwhelmed , overworked, you overwhelmed, overworked, you know, nobody to talk to. so we've got to kind of look at it that it we've got to kind of look at it thatitis we've got to kind of look at it that it is a very difficult environment, very stressful. we all worked very hard on the show to deliver the best show we could deliver on saturday night. but from the professionals point of view, i could never remember that i actually had somebody who could help me manage stress levels or my sort of mental health at that time, where the times were very rough. i was going one year on the show when

my mom was, having a cancer scare, and i still had to go, obviously, and perform and i was battling inside between should i just leave and go and see her or stay on the show? so there are difficult times for every single person who is involved in the show, not just the celebrities, but pros. as well. and i think having so—called wellbeing, producers that they've named and now i think will be super helpful. >> did you see any abusive behaviour when you were working on the show , on the show, >> we never in the same room with another pro training, another celebrity. just never. it never happened. you know, to me, for eight years on the show, i don't really think it would be happening now because we actually always had cameras with us every single step of the way. i don't think it's exactly the same at the moment. i think it is an issue. and to me, even though they want to do chaperones now, which is great, i think. but i'd rather perhaps think about investing in more cameras and more, camera crews.

so everything is filmed at all times. so then you have the proof right there in that video. >> you worked with john sergeant, who is not exactly rudolf nureyev. what are the challenges when working with someone who's not used to dancing? >> oh, here he is. i have such a fond memories of us working together, and i think he was my kind of lucky card because i was just, you know, finishing my competitive career. and i came on the show with all guns blazing, wanted to obviously go as far as i possibly could, maybe win, but obviously when i understand that i have to be clever here, i have to choreograph some fun choreography and just have a good time with the gentleman, you know, and, and kind of understand the way he works and the way he would enjoy the show. i think it was the perfect pairing. although we were kind of misfits, you know, in a weird way, where appealed to the crowd or to the crowd around us and of

course, where we have so much support. i think what really needs to be done is, is understanding can the professionals they have now actually teach? do they have, you know, sort of, a pedigree as teachers because the primary job is to teach novices and it can be frustrating and it can be challenging of course it is. but this is your job as this is yourjob as a professional to be able to teach and deliver the information and make that person flourish and enjoy the show. >> are you saying that some of the professional dancers are unqualified to teach , unqualified to teach, >> i don't know because i don't know the background. a lot of the dancers on the show, i simply don't know because they are quite young. so when i kind of left competitive world, the world on the scene yet. but in my generation of dancers, we all came. we were older. i think we were all, professionals competing professionally and therefore teaching because we obviously had to finance our dancing like that. so we had a

is it your impression that the bbc are cutting corners? i just think it has to be much thorough process and see in the vetting, you know, can do that. these pros have actually, you know, experienced in teaching because at the end of the day, if you've never taught, an elderly gentleman or maybe, well, any aduh gentleman or maybe, well, any adult who's never danced, you know, you were always taught yourself quite forlorn and quite, you know, harsh in our competitive world, you probably think that this is the method which is acceptable to anyone. but it's very different, because when you train for professional, competitive career and world championships, it's a very different story. when you basically doing a light entertainment, briefly . entertainment, briefly. >> christina just got a couple of seconds left . these stars of seconds left. these stars that go on the show, the actors, comedians, sports stars, they're very well paid. they don't have to do the show . dancing very well paid. they don't have to do the show. dancing is competitive. who cares if they get a couple of bruises? who

cares if they break their big toe? who cares if they're a bit stressed out? don't do the show. >> well, i don't think you need to really break your toe or have bruises or i had all of that, but not because of anything, but because that's what sometimes happens. you fell over or step over or whatever. you know, it's hard work. and i think maybe bbc needs to kind of explain to the celebrities that actually it's a very intense show. it's no joke. but by the bbc kind of contract, they only have to do 12 hours a week. that's a minimum. but you can't do anything in those 12 hours. it'sjust can't do anything in those 12 hours. it's just simply not enough. and it's a very gruelling work schedule, you know, and it's a lot of, a lot of goes into it. so i think they did. the celebrities just needs to be prepared and maybe know a little bit more in depth what it really requires to be on the show like that. >> christina, always a treat to have you on the show. at some point you can show me the, the foxtrot. my thanks to kristina rihanoff. listen, that's not going to happen. i've got about as much rhythm as stonehenge. we've heard from the bbc, and they've said we will not be

commenting on individuals or engaging in speculation. however, as we said previously, we will always listen if people want to make us aware of something or raise it with us directly and we have appropriate procedures and processes in place to manage this. coming up at ten massive story. sir keir starmer has suffered his first rebellion , with seven of his mps rebellion, with seven of his mps reportedly suspended after defying party orders over the controversial two child benefit cap. so afterjust two weeks controversial two child benefit cap. so after just two weeks in power is the labour party already at war? i'll be dealing with that shortly . but next, with that shortly. but next, should we be scared of joe biden's ultra left wing replacement? >> i am kamala harris. my pronouns are she and her. i am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit, and i am a gentleman wearing a very tight fitting black jacket. >> you're welcome. it's looking like a coronation for kamala harris. so has joe biden been the victim of an establishment

coup? and by the way, where the hell is he? i'll be speaking exclusively to a former presidential candidate. that's before the end of the hour.

welcome back. okay folks. over the pond in america, joe biden has left delaware, where he was isolating with covid again. how many times has he had covid? i thought he was vaccinated and heading back to the white house, from where he will address the nafion from where he will address the nation tomorrow night. meanwhile, kamala harris hit the campaign trail for the first time today. speaking at a rally in the battleground state of wisconsin. in the past hour. >> so wisconsin, i am told as of this morning that we have earned the support of enough delegates to secure the democratic nomination . and i pledge to you , nomination. and i pledge to you, i will spend the coming weeks

continuing to unite our party so that we are ready to win in november . november. >> well, i'm privileged now to be joined by the former democrat 2024 presidential candidate jason palmer. mr palmer, welcome to the show. first of all, where is joe biden? to the show. first of all, where isjoe biden? is he hiding in is joe biden? is he hiding in a cupboard somewhere? >> no, he's definitely not hiding in a cupboard. the poor gentleman has been suffering from covid the last few days, but he is going to speak to the nafion but he is going to speak to the nation tomorrow night, as i understand it, in a public address. >> did you not find the announcement of his withdrawal from the contest unusual? it was done on twitter or x, as it's now known. no photograph of him signing this resignation, no video footage, a complete mystery for many. >> well, i think it's a very momentous decision. you know, two weeks ago, i had started a pass the torch petition on change.org. there were many

others that were recommending that he pass the torch. the momentum was growing. this is the first time a us presidential candidate has withdrawn from the race so late in the game. and honestly, i think, you know, he was sick and he didn't want to go on air. you know, he wants to be presidential, he wants to be statesman like. and i really do think what he's done, it took great courage. it was like george washington when he passed the torch back in 1796. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> he always wants to come across well when he's on tv. although that hasn't aged brilliantly in recent weeks, has it? now kamala harris, mr palmer has negative poll ratings. this is a gift for donald trump, isn't it? >> well, actually, there's a poll out in the last couple of days that has kamala up 44 to 42% against donald trump in a two person race. and then i saw the three person race with rfk jr . and she the three person race with rfk jr. and she was actually up four percentage points. now that's still a national poll. over here. we have the electoral college and each state has a different way of calculating it for their state. but still, i do

feel like, you know, the energy in the democratic party is way, way up. i actually saw a tweet from a friend who worked on the biden campaign who was saying that last week. it kind of felt like you were at a funeral and it was just a, you know, very difficult circumstance. now people feel like they're at a wedding and there's an open bar and everybody is really energised by kamala harris. >> meanwhile, eye—watering debt , >> meanwhile, eye—watering debt, raging inflation. certainly in recent months , wokery in recent months, wokery in america's public institutions and an uncontrolled border invasion. biden's been a dreadful president, hasn't he? and kamala harris shares that legacy. she was vice president . legacy. she was vice president. >> well, i do think we would differ on that . president biden differ on that. president biden has actually passed some major pieces of historic legislation, a big infrastructure bill, which we've been talking about for a decade. he finally got it done, something called the chips act, which reinvests in computer chips and ai and technology here at home. there have been some big successes under biden's watch. but that said, you know, there has been a huge problem at

there has been a huge problem at the border. i wrote about that myself during the campaign trail. that was one of my major issues . i do think that's issues. i do think that's a weakness for kamala, and she's going to need to develop a new set of plans there and distance herself from biden on that issue. but, you know, it's not an invasion, even though people are describing it as such in fact, it's down about 50% over the last three months, possibly just because it's so darn hot right now on the southern border. >> indeed. but 3.5 million people entered the united states, 3.5 million people entered the united states illegally last year. this happened on kamala harris's watch. it's her brief to look after the border . so that's after the border. so that's going to be damaging, isn't it? >> well, i know this sounds a little bit like a technicality, but kamala harris was put in charge of solving the problem at the root source. so she went to guatemala. she went to el salvador, she had a holiday. >> that's nice . >> that's nice. >> that's nice. >> no, she was focused on trying to solve it at the root source. but you're right. there is a serious problem at the border. we need to change our policies.

that's why i released a ten page white paper on this during the campaign. i actually think there's significant changes needed to, you know, increase legal immigration, where we're bringing in the world's best and brightest , but not just allowing brightest, but not just allowing people to cross the border and declare amnesty when they're really not needing amnesty. >> jason, you sound like my kind of president. i'm sad that you didn't prevail a few months ago, kamala harris backed blm, which turned out to be a corrupt and divisive organisation which set back us race relations by 50 years. do you worry about her political judgement? >> no, i don't worry about her political judgement. she actually is a very strong candidate. she is the first candidate. she is the first candidate that i donated to back in 2020. when i looked back to see which candidates i had donated to, ultimately, i supported president biden , but supported president biden, but kamala harris was the first candidate i donated to. a lot of people have this incorrect perception that she's extremely liberal, extremely progressive. she actually was an attorney general in california. she

prosecuted many people. she put a number of criminals in jail. that was her prior job. and, you know, i don't think most people understand that her background is as a prosecutor. she also is of south asian descent. so she's not just african american. she actually is indian american, you know, one of her parents is from jamaica, so she's got quite a multi—ethnic background that i think is going to be interesting to see how america copes with that. >> indeed, jason, i've only got a couple of seconds, but here's a couple of seconds, but here's a little clip reel that the team put together today of some of kamala harris's greatest hits, which i think will be leveraged by the republicans. take a listen. we did it. >> we did it , joe. you're going >> we did it, joe. you're going to be the next president of the united states. i am kamala harris. my pronouns are she and her. i am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit . you table wearing a blue suit. you think you just fell out of a coconut tree ? you exist in the coconut tree? you exist in the context . i can imagine what can context. i can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has

been, you know. >> jason palmer kamala harris is an embarrassing shambles, isn't she? >> no, she's not actually, some of those quotes are actually going pretty viral on tiktok and on twitter right now because she's authentic . she's real. she's authentic. she's real. that whole falling out of a coconut tree thing is really taking off, because it has some significance in her cultural background. it actually means you know, you didn't just arrive here on day one with a blank slate. there's all this context that came before , whether that that came before, whether that be the civil war, whether that be the civil war, whether that be jim crow. i know you and i disagree, but i appreciate you bringing me on. mark. this was fun. >> jason palmer, it's been a privilege to have you on the show. really enjoyed our spirited debate. do join us again soon. former presidential candidate jason palmer. no less. i thought he was very electable. unlike kamala harris. next up, the labour party on the brink of civil war. that's . next.

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>> it's 10:00 >> it's10:00 pm. happy tuesday. this is patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan , immediately with me, mark dolan, immediately lifting 300,000 children out of poverty by scrapping this cruel policy . breaking tonight, sir policy. breaking tonight, sir keir starmer sensationally suspends seven rebel mps. is labour already on the brink of civil war? also tonight, no cost of living crisis over at the bbc as former star huw edwards is paid nearly half £1 million of your money to sit on his hands

at home. is it any wonder why 500,000 people tore up their licence fees last year? also tonight, scramble for the centre ground is a misguided as a misadventure for the conservatives as they. >> she's back. >> she's back. >> but is suella braverman really the monster that she's made out to be? and shock horror , made out to be? and shock horror, the luvvies are siding with these eco criminals. we are currently on a gantry above the m25 . m25. >> very loud up here. >> very loud up here. >> it's very windy. >> it's very windy. >> yeah, you can stay on the windy gantry as long as you like. as far as i'm concerned, i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages with my panel tonight. columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley and best selling author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. and nigel farage has made his maiden speech in the house of commons.

>> well , i've got a the house of commons. >> well, i've got a fun suggestion that i think would liven up politics, engage the pubuc liven up politics, engage the public and see a massively increased turnout. >> so what's he talking about? find out shortly. let's get to work . work. they've only been in power for two weeks, but had sir keir starmer already started a labour civil war? that's . next. civil war? that's. next. >> just after 10:00. the latest from the gb newsroom . tonight, from the gb newsroom. tonight, the shadow home secretary, james cleverly, has said he's running to be the next leader of the conservative party. the former foreign and home secretary said the conservative party needed to re—establish its reputation as the party who, in government helped the economy to grow and people achieve their goals. his

policy platform includes backing lower taxes, a smaller state supporting businesses and increasing defence spending to 3% of uk gdp . meanwhile, 3% of uk gdp. meanwhile, tonight, the seven labour mps who voted against the government on an amendment to scrap the two child benefit cap have had the whip suspended for six months. they include the former shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell and the former shadow business secretary, rebecca long—bailey. more than 40 labour mps recorded no vote at all, some of those listed spotted in the chamber throughout the day, others just missed the vote. in the united states, vice president kamala harris has launched her presidential campaign at a rally in wisconsin. speaking to cheering democrat supporters, she set out her aims in the race for the white house. but she criticised donald trump, saying he wanted to take the country backwards. she pledged tighter gun laws, as well as promising to protect women's reproductive rights. she's already secured

the support of senior democrats , the support of senior democrats, including president joe biden himself, as well as , crucially, himself, as well as, crucially, nancy pelosi and both the clintons. meanwhile, president biden himself arrived in washington tonight in preparation for an address to be made from the oval office slated for tomorrow. he's going to be explaining his plans for finishing the job as president. kamala harris has said it was a pleasure to work with him. >> it has truly been one of the greatest honours of my life to serve as vice president, to our president, joe biden .joe's president, joe biden. joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career and over the past three and a half years is unmatched in modern history. >> news here in the uk now, and police investigating disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've now made a total of 20

arrests. the riots are believed to be linked to a case involving local children who were taken into care . vehicles could be into care. vehicles could be seen on fire. a bus was set alight whilst police cars were overturned. west yorkshire police say the fast paced investigation continues and they've identified 40 suspects so far . the government says it's so far. the government says it's going to shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of its overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm barge, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. but human rights campaigners have compared it to a prison ship and criticised its use as inhumane. the barge will continue to house migrants until the contract expires next year. any longer than that would have cost the taxpayer more than £20 million a yeah taxpayer more than £20 million a year. and finally, one of the world's greatest tennis champions will say au revoir. after the paris olympics this

yean after the paris olympics this year, andy murray has announced this year's games will be his last ever tennis tournament. he was recently denied a wimbledon farewell in the singles after he had surgery on his spine just a week before the tournament began . week before the tournament began. in a post on social media today, he said that competing for team gb has been by far the most memorable weeks of his career and he's proud to do it one final time. scotland's first minister john swinney today hailed murray as our greatest ever sportsman, and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. >> see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> breaking tonight is labour on

the brink of civil war? reports suggest that sir keir starmer is set to suspend seven labour mps who rebelled to vote in favour of scrapping the two child benefit cap. the amendment was tabled by the snp. of course, it was and voted on this evening and these are the seven rebels. apsana begum , imran hussain, apsana begum, imran hussain, rebecca long—bailey, ian burn , rebecca long—bailey, ian burn, richard burgon, zarah sultana and john mcdonnell. former labour shadow chancellor. here is zarah sultana speaking this afternoon in the house of commons and causing merry hell for the new prime minister. if the labour party has a moral mission, it must be to eradicate poverty. >> the key driver of rising child poverty is the two child benefit cap, and the single most effective way of tackling child poverty is immediately lifting 300,000 children out of poverty by scrapping this cruel policy. it is a move backed by everyone

from gordon brown, all 11 trade unions affiliated to the labour party , as well as the tuc, which party, as well as the tuc, which represents 6 million workers, as well as the archbishop of canterbury and save the children . canterbury and save the children. >> yikes. let's just reflect, shall we, on those comments. it may just be seven mps involved, but it represents a huge portion of the labour base . as sultana of the labour base. as sultana just said there, the unions, the pubuc just said there, the unions, the public sector, charities and the party's old guard, including former prime minister gordon brown. and let's talk about the unions. the chancellor , rachel unions. the chancellor, rachel reeves, has effectively told the bbc that she's going to have to give in to their unreasonable demands to avoid strike chaos. >> the moment we are looking at those pay review body recommendations and doing the analysis and we will work with pubuc analysis and we will work with public sector workers on that. but we also know that there is a cost to not settling a cost of further industrial action, a cost in terms of the challenge

that we face in recruiting and retaining doctors and nurses and teachers, as well . teachers, as well. >> strike chaos under starmer. hate to say i told you so . hate to say i told you so. labour caving in to the unions is as surprising as elton john's hair loss . a million teachers hair loss. a million teachers and nearly 1.5 million nhs workers are expected to get pay rises of 5.5. now that is more than double inflation. that's more than you would get in the private sector. and god knows what labour are going to pay. the junior doctors whose dangerous strikes have seen the cancellation of over a million appointments. paul johnson, the respected and politically neutral director of the institute for fiscal studies , institute for fiscal studies, has said that the pay rises could cost an extra £3 billion for teachers and nurses alone. now both sectors may have a case. we love our nurses, we love the teachers. but with a government running scared after

just over two weeks in power, it's clear that the unions will smell blood and countless other sectors will follow suit with their own unreasonable , their own unreasonable, unaffordable demands, which means more taxes, more borrowed billions and more inflation. meanwhile, labour scrap rwanda the only serious deterrent we had to stop the boats in which the irish government said was already working. and today they've scrapped the bibby stockholm barge , which stockholm barge, which accommodated hundreds of migrants , presumably in favour migrants, presumably in favour of a suite at the holiday inn express. labour are going to smash the criminal gangs abroad. good luck with that. and go after people working in nail bars and car washes. now the nail bar raids will only scratch the surface and the car wash policy won't wash with anyone. it's a load of froth and foam in what looks like a perfect political storm. ed miliband is

going to destroy our energy independence by banning oil and gas exploration in the north sea. only for us to buy it back more expensively from international bad actors abroad, whilst betting the house on flaky renewables . the labour flaky renewables. the labour honeymoon is over, folks, and the bickering has already begun. okay, let's get reaction from tonight's top panel. i'm delighted to welcome columnist and broadcaster esther krakue. good to see her. of course, it's been a while since we broadcast together. i'm also delighted to welcome in the studio former conservative special adviser to michael gove. i think he taught michael gove. i think he taught michael gove. i think he taught michael gove how to dance . michael gove how to dance. charlie rowley and author and broadcaster. good friend of mine, amy nicole turner. great to see all three of you. amy, let me start with you, labour have been in power for two weeks and already in meltdown . big and already in meltdown. big civil war within the party. >> well, i don't know if it's a big civil war. it's only five people, but seven. i think seven. sorry, but we could have

seen this coming, couldn't we? because this policy has upset a lot of people. i think it's probably upset most of the party, to be honest. it's just a lot of people have decided that collective responsibility is more important. a lot of people have stayed at home. interestingly, rosie duffield has been one of the most vocal critics of this policy. i think she call it social cleansing or something akin to the handmaid's tale, but she's got covid, so she had to stay at home. all right, i don't think it's a civil war. i think it's a bad policy decision from starmer and he should listen to his party on this. but then again, it was in the manifesto. it was in the king's speech. so it's a little bit too late to be standing up against it now. >> it doesn't bode well for the party to be split just over two weeks into power. does it? >> no, but it's kind of inevitable, isn't it ? this is inevitable, isn't it? this is the same voices that we've heard split over the gaza issue. this is definitely more of the, i would say, the corbynite faction of the party, but i think maybe they thought that they had to go with their conscience on this one because it is such a massive

issue. so, so you're admitting that labour are in chaos. >> labour are divided. i wouldn't call it. >> i wouldn't call it chaos on the to call it cap, i would call it a healthy debate within the party. >> well, is it a healthy debate when seven members of parliament no longer hold or will no longer hold the labour whip? >> i mean, he's got a pretty big majority to be able to withstand. seven. labour mps withholding charlie rowley. >> this is an open goal for you, isn't it? >> it is because it's about party management as well. and so early on you don't want to start suspending people because you know, you're when you're elected and you've got a great majority, you're at the top of your game very early on. it's only downhill from there. that's for all governments of any colour or stripes. so it's a bold move. i'm sure starmer would, in the short term be lucky to have rid of these. you know, corbynistas who are on the hard left of his party. >> but or is it a way of keeping them quiet, >> well, who knows? people will react to suspensions in different ways, and there'll be

some who think, oh my gosh, okay. yes, i had to do it on principle, but i will do as much as i possibly can when i come back in six months time to be, ad hoc to the leader, but others will go completely the other way and think, gosh, you know, how on earth can this man? but i think after two weeks it's flagged to the public. >> what a big issue this is. so in anything their six month protest might be worth it in the end. >> i do think on the on the two child benefit cap, which i don't want to stick on for too long. i think most people are thinking if we have to make choices about how many children we can afford, why shouldn't everyone else? i mean, for the rest of the country to subsidise people with two children, to have more kids if they need to be on benefits? i don't think it's reasonable, but i don't want to stick on that. i think what keir starmer is doing with this suspension is setting the stage, because if you look at what liz kendall has been saying on welfare, wanting to get employment of the working age population up to 80, it's currently at 72. what that looks like. currently at 72. what that looks uke.the currently at 72. what that looks like. the only way i can see that happening is her just by that happening is herjust by her sticking to the sort of tory plan of really radically changing our unemployment benefits in this country, to get

it from 72% to even pre—pandemic levels of 72, 74% of the working age population, like almost1 in age population, like almost 1 in 5 people in major cities across this country that are working age are unemployed and living on either disability or unemployment benefits. so i think what they're doing here is setting the stage. if it's just seven mps now rebelling over this, when the welfare bills come in, he's saying if you if you vote against this, we will suspend you as well. and i think you'll be able to clinch enough of charlie rowley. >> this is your worst nightmare as a conservative supporter, isn't it? this is keir starmer showing a backbone, showing leadership , showing strength. leadership, showing strength. >> well, there's keir starmer who yes, is doing no u—turn , no who yes, is doing no u—turn, no wobble. but well, the undoing of keir starmer will be his own party as we're seeing these seven tonight. who will it be. but he's going to stand up to them isn't he. >> well i think he will. he has a big few majority frankly, but i'm not sure i've got one of those as well. >> yeah, i'm not sure. behave yourself . yourself. >> i'm not sure he can because for all the reasons that you were saying look what's in their

manifesto, they weren't going to increase , national insurance, increase, national insurance, income tax or vat. but what are they doing? they're nationalising the railways. they're nationalising the water companies. they're creating gb energy, which is state owned. they're now having to go to pay pubuc they're now having to go to pay public sector workers above and beyond inflation busting pay rises that we're talking about. they'll cave in to that wes streeting will probably cave in to, hopefully not 35% forjunior to, hopefully not 35% for junior doctors, but he will give them a load of money. where is all this money coming from? and if you're going to, then lift the child benefit cap, as you've seen, some of these rebellious labour mps have protested tonight, if that comes into effect, that means more money, more borrowing, more spending. i don't think it necessarily does more debt. and that is exactly what this country did not vote for. >> eamonn, for example, there's one loophole an inheritance tax regarding people putting their money in land, which will cover hardly any of it's actually £3 billion. if you close those loopholes on just inheritance tax, the money is their move, their inheritance. >> i mean, that could have people not think of this like moving earth to sell it, put it in a trust. are you kidding? >> that affects aspiration. it

might affect the economy as well, but amy, why is this labour government proving to be a lot more right wing than you expected , expected, >> well, i do, you know what, i dont?i >> well, i do, you know what, i don't? i am totally with zarah sultana on everything she said. and i think everyone, every poverty expert, every every organisation . the joseph joseph organisation. the joseph joseph rowntree foundation for example, are compilers of poverty. joseph, every bit of research into what causes poverty, what prolongs poverty, what what creates a cycle of those children. >> poverty is a crap economy , >> poverty is a crap economy, which, if labour are going to saddle business with red tape and increase workers rights, which makes it harder to hire people, then we'll have more poverty in the next five years. >> children who grow up. >> children who grow up. >> it's the economy, stupid. >> it's the economy, stupid. >> under this cap are less , are >> under this cap are less, are more likely to end up on benefits themselves. and that's something that you regularly have a problem with. this dependency on the welfare state. so this is something that could quickly nip that in the bud. surely you would support it. >> okay. well, listen, coming

up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and big news about the tory leadership race, but next, it's been revealed former bbc star huw edwards is paid half £1 million of your money to sit on his hands at home. meanwhile, divisive host gary lineker once again tops the league table of big earners pulling in over £1.3 million a year, all for introducing football clips. i'll be tackling this national scandal in the company of a former top bbc executive

next. no cost of living. crisis at the bbc. as their official salaries were released today and their former flagship newsreader, huw edwards. remember him? the man who resigned from the beeb on medical advice in april saw a payment increase of £40,000. edwards was suspended in july 2023 over allegations that he paid a young person for sexually explicit photos , and the top explicit photos, and the top paid star at the beeb once again is gary lineker, who raked in just over £1.3 million for his football coverage across the network. well, i'm delighted for reaction to welcome former bbc producer and chief executive of channel five, when it had

millions of viewers. david elstein david, thank you so much for joining us, first of all, david, could the bbc survive without the licence fee ? without the licence fee? >> well, i think the bbc would be better off without the licence fee because it would finally be forced into an honest relationship with its viewers, and the viewers could choose to pay and the viewers could choose to pay for it or not pay for it. i think there's a certain amount of bbc output, which i would call public service output . call public service output. news, current affairs, regional programmes, education, which needs to be funded publicly , but needs to be funded publicly, but the licence fee is not a good mechanism for doing that . so mechanism for doing that. so personally i would recommend to the bbc for its own good to dump the bbc for its own good to dump the licence fee and move to subscription as soon as possible . subscription as soon as possible. >> amen to that. now david, is gary lineker worth £1.3 million a year to introduce football clips? >> no, but he does do quite a few other things, like, live coverage of events , i'm sure coverage of events, i'm sure he'll be doing stuff at the

olympics. and so forth. look, the bbc pays far too many people, far too much, including most of its own executives. i mean, i'm just staggered at the number of people at the bbc earning , over 150,000 a year, earning, over 150,000 a year, not one of whom makes a single programme, but that's the bbc. that's historic. that's never going to change. >> and it should change, shouldn't it? because it's our money and it's the money of my viewers and listeners . viewers and listeners. >> well, that's why i would much prefer it to be a voluntary financial arrangement, whereby people choose to pay or they don't. now, at the moment, a lot of people are choosing not to pay of people are choosing not to pay the licence fee. they're just giving up, terrestrial television altogether , another television altogether, another half million last year. it's not much realised that only 80% of households currently pay for the bbc, there's another 3% who are

given free tv licences, but the bbc is losing about 2% a yet so in by the end of this decade they will be down to around about 65% of households. now, if you don't move across from licence fee to subscription soon, you will be in really serious financial trouble. >> david, i've got viewers and listeners who simply hate the bbc. why do you think that is? >> well , bbc. why do you think that is? >> well, hating the bbc is not something i entirely sympathise with. there are a lot of people who are irritated by its arrogance, by its sense of entitlement, by its painfully, apparent political correctness , apparent political correctness, by its, air of superiority. i mean, when people like nick robinson at the bbc off gb news at the same time as the bbc arabic service has to put out 70

separate corrections for its coverage of gaza in the last eight months, i do understand why people can get a little bit annoyed, but the key issue is the involuntary funding system. if people weren't compelled to fund the bbc, they might have a much more positive attitude towards it . and that's one of towards it. and that's one of the reasons why the bbc really needs to rethink its funding mechanism. >> what about huw edwards being paid a salary of almost half £1 million? >> whilst not broadcasting? what does that tell you? >> well , i does that tell you? >> well, i think that's a completely separate issue . completely separate issue. basically, the man had a nervous breakdown . he was put on sick breakdown. he was put on sick leave. he might have been suspended and fired. he wasn't. he agreed to leave. his contract entitles him to be paid for a year even though he wasn't on screen. you just have to bite that bullet, >> listen, i'm thrilled to have you on the show. lots of common sense. it's a shame you're not still at the beeb. former chief

executive of channel five and top bbc producer david elstein. thank you . david, speaking thank you. david, speaking earlier today, the bbc's director general, tim davie, said no one wants to waste a pound , but we need to act pound, but we need to act proportionately and fairly and i think that's what we did. prior to any breaking of the edwards story. people do get pay rises for extended responsibility and more hours worked. so that's fairly normal. and that's what resulted in the change. okay. next up is suella braverman really the monster that she's made out to be? we debate her credentials and discuss the breaking news tonight that james cleverly has become the first tory to officially announce that he is running for leader. so thatis the next hot off. the press don't go anywhere

okay. we kick off with the press pack. and let's have a look at some of tomorrow's front pages. and we start with the metro , and we start with the metro, murray out. andy murray to bow out with one last hurrah at the

olympics. acts strictly. no cha cha chance says the boss of the bbc. the our newspaper uk has three years to get ready for war. new army chief warns britain must prepare for conflict against an axis of upheaval as russia , china, north upheaval as russia, china, north korea and iran work more closely together. my goodness, we've had brexit, we've had a pandemic, we've had a few elections and now war. let's hope it doesn't come to pass . meanwhile, the come to pass. meanwhile, the times, we've got three years to prepare for war, warns army chief, is also the story on the front page of the times. long term , sick should be forced to term, sick should be forced to seek work. labour health advisor highlights the key to growth. more small c small c sort of messaging from this new labour government. by the way. >> that's why he is taking the whip from people. i'm telling you, he's setting the stage. yeah, that's the major battleground, right? >> we might come to that bio bentleys and green helicopters for charles. the royal household

will take delivery of two new helicopters and could review the use of the royal train. despite a green drive towards solar panels and state bentleys running on biofuel, daily mail why was jihad preacher freed to spout hate? britain's most notorious hate preacher embarked on a global bid to recruit the next generation of terrorists after being freed from jail, anjem choudary faces life in prison after an unprecedented investigation uncovered that he was recruiting followers in brazil, canada and the us guardian. we will win this election, kamala harris tells us. democrats king's official income to rise by more than 50% and shocking gap found in black mothers nhs care. very worrying story that one daily telegraph gps threat to see fewer patients in pay rail more strike chaos under labour. gps will cut the number of appointments they offer each day under plans to protest over pay. chancellor urged to target pensions of the middle class and solar panels at

windsor in king's green plan . windsor in king's green plan. okay, lots more in the papers and the new leader of the conservative party will be announced on november the 2nd. but who will succeed at climbing the greasy pole ? james cleverly, the greasy pole? james cleverly, only a couple of hours ago announced that he was running the first to officially do so. kemi badenoch robert jenrick priti patel and tom tugendhat among the hopefuls, alongside arguably the most controversial contender suella braverman cleverly and badenoch among other tory mps, have both taken the opportunity to take swipes at the former home secretary as speculation of who will lead their party heats up. she's been accused of factionalism in the party and her rhetoric being explosive and divisive. but as she aims to position herself as the candidate of the right, could braverman be what the party desperately needs . nigel party desperately needs. nigel farage has said that he expects more tory mps will soon defect

to reform uk, and word on the street is that braverman herself may take the same path. charlie, i'm going to start with you because you have the inside track when it comes to the conservative party, do you think that suella braverman is being inched out of the party? is she on her way to reform, >> well, if she is, it's of her own making. no one's forcing her out. no one's pushing her out, she has done , i think, she has done, i think, everything that you should not be doing. if you want to secure the leadership of the conservative party at the minute after a cataclysmic defeat, which is not good for anybody who's a conservative, nobody wanted to see the losses that we saw. the idea that you , ramp up saw. the idea that you, ramp up the rhetoric, you turn up the heat and make things even more divisive by saying that we weren't right wing enough. and that's the problems. and anyone that's the problems. and anyone that's a bit of a wet. that was the word that was characterised in the 80s. then you can sort of leave the party, you know, the party needs to come together. it needs somebody to say, look, we don't we shouldn't be having the

debate about what's too left wing, what's too right wing. it's not about left and right. it's not about left and right. it's about the issues we failed to deliver when it came to cutting immigration. we failed to deliver the homes the country need. we failed to deliver tax cuts. those are issues that the pubuc cuts. those are issues that the public want . cuts. those are issues that the public want. there's nothing left or right wing about that. >> but having someone there is something left to right wing about that. because the reason why it didn't happen is because the tory party was infiltrated by lib dems in disguise. that's the issue. the reason why they failed on issues like brexit or whatever is because there was no vision. you have to have an ideology behind the party to actually have the vision to see things through. listen, i think suella braverman is acutely lacking in any sort of political instinct, in the sense that i think she actually well , we're think she actually well, we're talking about her tonight. well, yes, but no, but she lacks political instinct. that's, that's that's just a fact. i think the kinds of things we have to remember why she was, she was basically fired as home secretary and the kinds of situations she put herself in that made her position untenable. she is not the kind of person she she may say the some of the things that resonate with people, but she doesn't have she's not a very clever politician. she's she's a very

sort of rudimentary. and you don't want the person that's effectively, spearheading issues that a lot of people in this country find important. you don't want that person leading that charge to be an amateur. sorry. you have to have a more skilled politician to have these issues taken more seriously. >> i mean, james cleverly, amy nicholl is essentially throwing his hat in the ring. he's actually the first official candidate, to pursue the tory leadership, which is going to happenin leadership, which is going to happen in november. paul rishi sunakis happen in november. paul rishi sunak is going to be sticking around for months on end, but actually, isn't braverman the only person that's being honest about what went wrong? on july the 4th? >> no, i think that from the start, suella braverman has just said whatever is advantageous to her own poll ratings. she just is talks in very populist terms about things she sends dog whistles. well, i don't i think i think if we think about some of the things she said, the thing about pakistani men being sex predators, the thing about wanting to take tents from

homeless people, her dream to be to deport asylum seekers. this is really ugly, ugly stuff that doesn't really stand the way that she phrases things might be clumsy. >> that's that's the point. the way she phrases it is what i'm referring to as the lack of political instinct. if she's talking about the fact that south asian men are overrepresented in the grooming gang scandal, fine. >> no, no, no, not the grooming gangs, though. that's what made it so inaccurate. >> but the reality is, if you are to statistically speaking, if you are to face a grooming gang person in this country, the person is most likely overwhelmingly to be a white man, right? you have to handle these issues that are very serious and very important, delicately and accurately. you don't always have to go down the populist propaganda with everything, because you cheapen the issues. all right. >> but which is what she's also done with the gender stuff. >> i mean, all three of you are throwing suella braverman a bit of shade here, but i've got viewers and listeners, many viewers and listeners, many viewers and listeners who appreciate suella braverman because they feel that she says it like it is, that she expresses their concerns about

legal net migration, which is obviously unsustainable. 700,000in a year, illegal immigration, which is a national security, economic and humanitarian crisis. meanwhile, old school centrist tories are just saying we're the oldest political party in europe. we'll be back. you're living in cloud cuckoo land. suella braverman is telling the truth about what went wrong in july, >> well , she went wrong in july, >> well, she might went wrong in july, >> well , she might be, went wrong in july, >> well, she might be, but as i say, you know, that's not welcome in a party which is in denial. but. but it's not the tories are killing the messenger, aren't they? she is in denial, because she was the home secretary, twice. and she. >> she's argued she was thwarted by rishi sunak, >> you know, her position and civil servants, the blob and mr blobby stopped her. >> and i have a lot of sympathy, actually, for that because i think british patel suffered the same. and lots of people do in the home office of all of all of all of all, you know, it was john reed that said the home office wasn't fit for purpose. and he's still absolutely right. former labour home secretary,

former labour home secretary. exactly. but what i think it is about the how you articulate and how you frame the debate, what suella is doing is playing to a very, very particular base. of 4 million reform uk voters . million reform uk voters. >> why are the tories so snooty about her and her opinions? >> it is the way i think. look, you know who cares how she says it? >> well, because it matters. because the thing is, if you think that she's covering important issues, you want the best. and she says taxes have got to come down. >> we've got to stop the boats, that's fine. we've got to bring back law and order. >> i can articulate a lot of what she's saying without someone wanting to throw a bucket of, like, pureed tomatoes over my head . you have if you. over my head. you have if you. politics is a game, right? if you want the best person to convince the country that your position is right and that you are articulating the best ideas for the country, you need to choose the best orator. for that. you cannot choose someone that. you cannot choose someone that calls pakistani men sex predators . that is not predators. that is not acceptable. >> that's wrong. >> that's wrong. >> well, the key, but the key wrong. but the key there is sort of appealing to the country. it's not just about appealing to the conservative party. so the

membership might fancy suella braverman, you know, those million. >> you're speaking very dismissively about the membership. the great unwashed. >> i'm not at all you know, they might like, you know, i have no problem with. are they the deplorables? >> charlie? >> charlie? >> i have no issue with any conservative. >> have you ever met a normal person? >> i have never. i'm sitting amongst them now. i feel they're amongst them now. i feel they're a bit too normal. normal? but. but it's about appealing to the country. the country that didn't vote conservatives this time round, the country that voted for reform or voted for labour. those are the people that you need to be able to win back to win the next election. suella braverman is not going to do that. >> well, nigel farage made his maiden speech in the house of commons and put forward quite the proposal . the proposal. >> we will only stop this if we start deporting people that come illegally. then they won't pay the smugglers. but we'll only do that by leaving the echr. but i've got a fun suggestion that i think would liven up politics, engage the public and see a massively increased turnout. why don't we have a referendum on whether we continue to be

members of the echr >> well, nigel does like a referendum, doesn't he ? so do we referendum, doesn't he? so do we need one on this court, which some would argue stops us from stopping the boats? amy. nicole turner i don't think the last one went particularly well. >> referendums. well, it went up the extremes in people and don't lead to good. >> so you're not a fan of referendums as a mechanism. >> divisive, bit divisive. >> divisive, bit divisive. >> okay. what do you think, charlie, >> i think actually on this occasion that the public will want politicians to do their job and decide on issues like this, and decide on issues like this, and so i don't think it'll necessarily we don't need a referendum on it. we either need to stay in it or leave it. >> and that's where politicians without a referendum are not going to happen under keir starmer. >> is it? well, yes, unfortunately, but this is the thing. we don't need a referendum on everything. there are some things that should just be common sense. >> yeah , well brexit being a >> yeah, well brexit being a referendum, we can agree such a terrible outcome. >> no i don't agree with it. well i don't know about that. we're currently sitting at number one. >> not because not because it happened. just because of what it's done to the community. it's divided us. that's my point. well, maybe i'm not saying

brexit shouldn't have happened. >> they wouldn't have never had to got that far. >> okay. well listen of course brexit a hardy perennial that won't go away. >> but next up, celeb luvvies have demanded a meeting with the attorney general after sending just stop oil protesters to prison. who asked them? that's in tonight's greatest britain and union, jackass and the moment we've all been waiting for is donald trump good at golf? yes >> oh, beautiful. come on. >> oh, beautiful. come on. >> right now, that was literally hours ago. so find out how that shot ended up. plus more front pages. see you in

more front pages. hot off the press. and we've got the mirror. let's take a look at what they lead with, bbc chief, i'm sorry for strictly abuse . rao and out.

for strictly abuse. rao and out. andy murray to retire from tennis after the olympics. and we've got daily express. always a cracking read. we've got three years to prepare for war. head of army warns. what a cheery headune of army warns. what a cheery headline that is. meanwhile, bbc chief very sorry for strictly bullying scandal. there you go . bullying scandal. there you go. brilliant stuff, look, lots more to get through. reacting to the big stories of the day, esther krakow charlie rowley and amy nicole turner. now the luvvies have reared their heads, ugly heads once again for the cult of climate alarmism. celebrities including chris packham, tracey emin, annie lennox and chris martin from coldplay are among those who signed a letter demanding to meet the attorney general over the injustice of the just stop oil prison sentences. five members of the activist group faced 4 to 5 year prison sentences over the disruption caused by their protest on the m25 , which cost

protest on the m25, which cost the police £1.1 million and caused a cancer patient to miss an appointment. the caused a cancer patient to miss an appointment . the sentencing an appointment. the sentencing has been dubbed by the luvvies as a grotesque miscarriage of justice, one of the greatest injustices in a british court in modern history. but esther, should this lot just butt out of the legal system? >> well, yes , obviously, but you >> well, yes, obviously, but you know, there's something. i always find it very strange. there's something deeply arrogant and narcissistic thinking that because you sing for a living or because you play pretend, you somehow command enough public respect to wade in on, on issues that you have no idea. and quite frankly , don't idea. and quite frankly, don't affect them. i remember, i remember emma thompson flew in a private jet from la to london to attend an extinction rebellion protest. >> yeah. i think well i think she. that's right. i think it was first class. >> and the carbon footprint, the size of the thing is you have to be living on a different planet. you have to be completely just out, just completely out of your

mind to think that you somehow have the moral high ground to comment on, on these issues anyway, why why do why do we have to obey the law and these just stop oil protesters don't have to at the end of the day, if they don't want to be arrested, don't glue yourself to the m25 or cause cancer patients to miss their appointments. these people have no concerns for the people that are affected by them, but somehow they think that they should be, you know, excluded from from the application of the law and do the comments of these rich entertainers just demonstrate what a distance there is between the sort of privileged media elite and the british public, because my view is and listeners will, will be raging about very bright. and i think they're deeply, terribly narcissistic. i can't imagine singing for a living and then somehow thinking, oh, these people follow me. therefore, let me lecture. >> but the thing is, i'm entitled to my view. >> you're entitled to yours . why >> you're entitled to yours. why aren't they entitled to theirs? >> well, they are entitled to their views. >> but the question is, why ? why >> but the question is, why? why are they preaching to the people that are tuning in to them to listen to them sing? if i'm watching you play pretend on tv

or listening to you saying, where in that do you suddenly have the moral high ground to start preaching to me about the climate? >> well, do you think it's weird, though, that you. sorry, charlie, that you can muster more outrage? more anger, like you've just. i don't really you know, you sound a bit annoyed, right? i'm at them. the more you spend more time with me, the more frustration about them. and what they're doing. and the climate protesters, and they're gluing themselves rather than the impact of climate change. >> no. >> no. >> so, look, i think and the profits of bp and the way the oil fields impact the lives of millions people, what upsets people, amy, is that these rich celebrities will be insulated from net zero policies, which are highly debateable at best, but they're not insulated from the impact of climate change. they're very they're very. and also someone like someone like chris packham is more than informed on this subject. so i don't think it's right to say he has no, no connection to this. and surely if they have a platform of millions, then it's and that's the point . singing and that's the point. singing for this. celebrities have got involved in i wouldn't i wouldn't characterise it as play pretend history. >> these are quite talented

people and individuals in their own right, whether they, you know, whether they're artists or in performing arts or music or whatever. but they do have a responsibility because they've got that platform, because they've got that following. there is a responsibility, actually, when you do speak out on issues , to do it wisely and on issues, to do it wisely and effectively, issues . well, effectively, issues. well, because they're entitled to what they're doing here. but but there is absolutely no way that people like chris packham and whoever the other mobile chris whoever the other mobile chris who who finally only whittingdale. well, there's absolutely no way that they would have got in touch. why can't they speak out or had an opinion about the cancer patient that missed their appointment? where's the conversation about that? charlie? charlie is the conversation. where is the love and support or help for that individual who missed their appointment because of the just stop oil crackpots? this is so you ask me, do i know normal people? these celebrities are not normal and they are no idea what it's like to be a normal person. >> why can't why can't they express their views in their kitchen or their living room? >> because what use would that have? no, it's not about what we all have opinions like. >> i like bum holes. we all have

them. you like what they're like. bumhole. oh, they are, they are. i think everyone has an opinion. >> i think they're entitled to their view. but we're entitled to judge them harshly because the stuff that they stand up for. by the way, this this is a bad thing, isn't it? because they're going against the rule of law by defending these criminals? >> well, yes, of course, you know, five years. so i don't hold them to a very high standard. >> i'm not surprised if i, if i, if i stopped at a motorway for four days, i think i probably should go to jail too. really? >> for five years, more than most rapists. i think. so, at a time when prisons are overcrowded, policemen fell off, fell off a motorbike as a result of a collision because of the blockage on the motorway. >> and god knows what other terrible stories. >> but what if it was something that you really care about and you want? what if it was your family that the cancer point? >> why do they pay? that's policing. >> people miss things because of traffic jams? >> no, all the time. >> no, all the time. >> i'm sorry. that's not an excuse to deliberately have your appointment missed or to put someone's life in danger because you feel like you should be immune from the rule of law is narcissistic. >> i think the argument that they would make is that more people are losing their lives every day because of climate

change, and we just ignore all that. they can ignore all that, and we just get annoyed at people with with superglue to mine cobalt, go to the congo and go and protest over children mining cobalt for our phones. >> okay? >> okay? >> or go to china and look at their emissions and complain about their fossil fuels. but listen, everyone's entitled to their view, before we go, a couple of other bits and pieces . couple of other bits and pieces. first of all, donald trump. okay. many say he's over the hill, but this is him playing golf in the last 24 hours. check out this shot. yes >> oh, beautiful. come . on oh, >> oh, beautiful. come. on oh, what a shot. >> you think biden can do that i don't know, we had an argument about golf. can you believe it? i saw him come on cnn. i don't even know if bryson can do that. >> i don't think i could do that if he gets if president trump gets inside of me, i don't know what's going on. >> could be good. oh, a little much? >> oh, it's gonna spin ,

>> oh, it's gonna spin, >> oh, it's gonna spin, >> that was with someone called bryson. the genre, who is a golf professional. but what about donald trump ? 78 years of age. donald trump? 78 years of age. too old. still, he's got a he's got a seeing eye. okay, folks, it's got a seeing eye. okay, folks, wsfime got a seeing eye. okay, folks, it's time now for my pundits to reveal their greatest briton and union jackass, that's right. greatest briton and union jackass. esther, who's your hero today? >> the justice system for sentencing. the just stop oil activists and actually upholding the rule of law, which we all, we all have to live by. by the way, we can't go around vandalising things too, right? >> how about you, charlie? what have you got for us? your your, greatest britain. >> i think it's andy murray. announced his retirement, long awaited or long expected, i should say, after a number of setbacks. freudian slip. there yeah, but, you know, we've grown to love andy. he's a bit grumpy at first, i think. and but, you know, he. when he won wimbledon, he was very emotional and we got to know him a bit more. he led team gb at the olympics in 2012. so i think having announced his retirement today, he's our number one. >> great shout, amy, your greatest briton i've gone for kamala harris forjust making that because you had a drink

before the show. >> mr britain even even if it's just for the memes that have surfaced since she announced she was running, it's been exceptional . it's made it exceptional. it's made it exciting, even more exciting, unburdened by what has been. >> i'm going to crown andy murray because he's a true british sporting hero and a really good guy . okay, how about really good guy. okay, how about your union jackass? lovely. >> esther, the democratic party in the us for lying. for lying. that joe biden has been fit for three and a half years. >> this has been a fraud, hasn't it? >> and they're just surprised by his performance suddenly. yeah, by by his performance at that debate with donald trump. i just i think i'm sorry. that is just scandalous. has he ever been fit to be president? >> i don't think even in 2020, he was right. >> i don't think so. i think his his cognitive decline over the last six months have been quite significant. yeah >> charlie, your jackass, it's kathy gethin who is the mother of this 22 year old just stop oil activist, chris de gethin, who has gone viral. >> well, of course he has, because she's defending her silly daughter. >> take a listen.

>> take a listen. >> and she has just been sentenced today to four years in prison. this means she will not be present at her brother's wedding next summer. >> i know, think about that next time you block a motorway. >> okay, amy, your union jackass. i just want to let you all know you would have been against the suffragettes. >> as long as you're okay with that. >> don't worry. >> don't worry. >> i like bars, so mine is microsoft for trying to blame their outage on the eu. >> like, it's a bit harsh , isn't >> like, it's a bit harsh, isn't it? i've got to say, they might have crossed the line there. >> well, i can understand why they want to pass the buck. >> great nominations. i'm going to deliberate on this and my union jackasses. cathy, get in and that is the mother of a woman jailed. now i understand it's very sad that that woman has been jailed. but like i said, if you were to stop a major thoroughfare, especially a thoroughfare, especially a motorway, you could expect to have your collar felt as well. it's a wake up call forjust it's a wake up call for just stop oil. listen, it's been great fun to do the show . great fun to do the show. patrick, back tomorrow at nine. i'm back on friday at 8:00. headliners is next. thanks to my lovely pundits and the team.

>> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> evening. thanks forjoining me for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news for many, it's dry overnight and it'll be another fine day tomorrow with some good spells of sunshine. later on though, cloud and rain which is lurking behind me will start to spread in to parts of the west. we've seen a few showers around today. they're fading now this evening, so generally it's a dry night. bit of mist and fog here and there, but most areas just staying clear and some staying quite mild as well. quite a warm night in the south. temperatures holding up in the teens here a little lower across scotland and northern england, but generally a fine start to wednesday . some a fine start to wednesday. some cloud, but many areas starting off with a bit of sunshine and much of northern scotland will stay fine and sunny through the day. some of the highest temperatures likely on the moray firth through the afternoon across northern ireland. generally a dry and a bright start, but we are going to see

the cloud increasing here and start to push in. some outbreaks of rain as we go through the morning. much of england and wales starting dry fine with some good spells of sunshine and a bit of sunshine. this time of year soon start to lift those temperatures as well, so as we go through the day we will see this cloud increasing across the west. there's the rain spreading into northern ireland and also further east lincolnshire down towards cambridgeshire, across norfolk, suffolk. 1 or 2, possibly heavy showers are possible through the middle part of the day, but many areas staying dry until this rain creeps into west wales , creeps into west wales, cornwall, the isles of scilly, maybe south—west scotland later on, as well as turning damp across northern ireland with the cloud and the rain in the west a little cooler than today, but further east a little warmer than today. 26 or 27. the showery rain will continue to spread and we will see some heavier bursts through wednesday evening across scotland

>> it's 11:00. >> it's11:00. you're with gb news in a moment. headliners. but first, let's bring you the latest news headlines . and the latest news headlines. and the shadow home secretary james cleverly has said he is going to run to be the next leader of the conservative party. the former foreign and home secretary threw his hat in the ring and said the tories needed to re—establish a reputation as a party which helps the economy grow and people achieve their goals. his policy platform, he said, includes backing lower taxes , a includes backing lower taxes, a smaller state supporting business and increasing defence

spending to 3% of uk gdp