>> it's 11:00. you're with >> it's11:00. you're with gb news in a moment. headliners. but first, let's bring you the latest news headlines . and the latest news headlines. and the shadow home secretary james cleverly has said he is going to run to be the next leader of the conservative party. the former foreign and home secretary threw his hat in the ring and said the tories needed to re—establish a reputation as a party which helps the economy grow and people achieve their goals. his policy platform, he said, includes backing lower taxes , a includes backing lower taxes, a smaller state supporting business and increasing defence

spending to 3% of uk gdp . spending to 3% of uk gdp. meanwhile, the seven labour mps who voted against the government on an amendment to scrap the two child benefit cap have had the whip suspended for six months. they include the former shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, and the former shadow business secretary rebecca long—bailey. more than 40 labour mps recorded no vote. some of those listed were spotted in the chamber throughout the day, others just missed the vote entirely. in news from the united states, the vice president, kamala harris, has launched her presidential campaign in america tonight. she was speaking to cheering crowds. democrat supporters , one and all democrat supporters, one and all in wisconsin, and she said her out her aims in the race for the white house. she criticised donald trump, saying he wanted to take the country backwards and she said she would rather pledge tighter red flag gun laws , pledge tighter red flag gun laws, as well as promising to protect women's reproductive rights. she's already secured the support of senior democrats,

including the president himself , including the president himself, as well as, crucially, nancy pelosi yesterday and both bill and hillary clinton . meanwhile, and hillary clinton. meanwhile, the president himself has arrived in washington tonight. he's preparing for an address to be made from the oval office tomorrow to the nation, and he's going to be explaining his plans for what he's calling finishing the job. kamala harris said it was a pleasure to work with him . was a pleasure to work with him. >> it has truly been one of the greatest honours of my life to serve as vice president, to our president, joe biden .joe's president, joe biden. joe's legacy of accomplishment over his entire career and over the past three and a half years, is unmatched in modern history. >> here at home, police investigating disturbances in the harehills area of leeds last week say they've now made a total of 20 arrests. the riots are believed to be linked to a

case involving local children, who were taken into care by social services . vehicles were social services. vehicles were set on fire, a police car was overturned and west yorkshire police say their fast paced investigation, based on social media input, says they've identified 40 suspects. the government's to shut down a barge used for housing migrants off the south coast of england as part of its overhaul of the asylum system. use of the bibby stockholm, which can house up to 500 men, began under the conservative government. but human rights campaigners compared it to a prison ship and criticised its inhumane nature. the barge will continue to house migrants until the contract expires next year. any longer would have cost the public more than £20 million next year, and the olympic dressage champion, charlotte dujardin, has been handed a six month provisional ban over a video showing her

making what she's called an error of judgement during a training session with a horse . training session with a horse. earlier, it was announced she had withdrawn from the olympics after the video resurfacing from four years ago. the three time olympic dressage champion has had to pull out of all competitions whilst the matter was re—investigated, she said. what happened was out of character and she was very sorry for her actions, but more so devastated to have let everybody down. those are the latest gb news headlines. time now for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. >> i'm simon evans. tonight we have the newspaper review show with comedy and insight. i'm

joined by josh howie and providing the comedy and insight carrie marks i haven't been on with you for ages. i haven't been on with you for ages. i know, so that's all right. what a pleasure . a pleasure. >> look at this little lovey. my nephew. >> time is fair, josh, you do that. >> jealousy is painful. >> jealousy is painful. >> obviously some kind of weird spasm of self—loathing. >> i don't know, what can i say.7 >> i don't know, what can i say.7 >> self—deprecating. let's take a look at wednesday's front pages. the times kick us off long term. sick should be forced to seek work. not looking at anyone in the studio in particular daily mail. why was jihad preacher freed to spout hate .7 that will be covered hate? that will be covered shortly? the telegraph gp's threat to see fewer patients in pay threat to see fewer patients in pay row and the guardian. we will win this election, harris tells democrats the express. bbc chief very sorry for strictly bullying scandal and finally , bullying scandal and finally, the daily star. with the only short and punchy headline of the night, back of the net. those were your front pages . so let us

were your front pages. so let us start with the guardian. >> lots of new ones. >> we will win this election, harris tells democrats. >> that was quite good. that was not bad. >> was that your impression of her? >> yes. it's just not how she talks. >> you've based that on all former presidential candidates? yeah. instead of actually listening. >> no, i had to look around. i thought she was here. we will win election . win election. >> okay, well, maybe we almost did the laugh. >> harris. >> harris. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> going backwards and forwards. yes. so, this is her first coconut in time. time we figured out how to pronounce her name. it's, kamala. kamala. but you have to say. but the. he put out a thing. i know because they did it with an england because it's. com it's pronounced comma. and they're like, oh, it's pronounced comma. except of course it's an american comma. so it's kamala, kamala, kamala . so it's kamala, kamala, kamala. actually the bbc put out a whole sort of verify thing and they got it wrong. okay. we're telling you. >> well the bbc got it wrong.

>> well the bbc got it wrong. >> well the bbc got it wrong. >> we need some real news here. kamala. what does she said. she's saying we're going to win this election. she came out. she came hang. she was hard. she she was already trumped. biden because she was awake and, yeah, she was she was like. she was punchy. >> can i put this one in front of you and see what you say? she says, do we want to live in a country of freedom, compassion and rule of law? or a country of chaos, fear and hate? >> do you think it's rhetorical? >> do you think it's rhetorical? >> well, i mean, obviously it is, but none of those things are in the gift of government, are they? >> well, i mean, i guess they can escalate. >> i mean, how do you have a government that introduces compassion into a country the size of the usa? >> i get maybe allow them to have health care? >> do you want to have a government that shows compassion or the rule of law? those two things are diametrically opposed if you try and use. if you try and approach a court of law and say, i want you to use compassion rather than the rule of law to decide this case, that's those two things are completely different. foot and

also freedom, which is the republican . they prefer social republican. they prefer social justice, the democracy. >> you're a fan . it's subject. >> you're a fan. it's subject. it's subjective though, simon, isn't it? it's all subjective . isn't it? it's all subjective. and no, but everyone imaginable, everyone is moral in their own minds. everyone except sociopaths and moral. so. so you can put you can put out any, any claim and you can say, we're being moral or social justice, freedom or justice. >> those freedom orjustice. >> those two things are not freedom or equality. you cannot have both. >> what are the no. you can have the freedom not to have guns and the freedom not to have guns and the freedom not to have guns and the freedom to have guns. yeah, right. what i'm saying is it's subjective, so you can claim it not to be shot, which is what she talks about. >> well, you have is the responsibility you could have the freedom to not be shot if there were no guns . there were no guns. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> if there were no guns. but that would involve the freedom, right? >> the memes are out today for her. and, but you know what the point is? i think what people really wanted to see was someone giving giving it back a bit. yeah. and that's what the democrats wanted to see as a fight. and there's someone in the game basically. yeah. and

she she looks great. >> i have to admit, 59. >> i have to admit, 59. >> that's not that's not what this is about. that's not that's not what this election is. >> well that is obviously what you're going to make it now isn't it. they're going to tell you everything that has been thrown up. >> yes. the republicans. yes. they've just had their conference. they've done everything they can to complete destroy biden. they did too good a job. and as a result, they now have to start a completely new strategy. but yeah, i mean , she strategy. but yeah, i mean, she surprised me. i didn't think she was she was going to say that they were going to win the election. what what an odd statement to make really. >> but we had seen a lot of biden over the last few months, obviously deteriorating across the board, but especially deteriorating when he is off autocue, off teleprompter, whatever you call it. i mean, i'm assuming this speech today was her on the teleprompter. >> yeah, i don't think that's a great point. you know, it's free. free free styling it. >> i mean, obviously you're left with me and kerry . you are as with me and kerry. you are as well. but where do you think the next debate will. will, how do you feel that she will cope with, like speaking. >> i think she'll talk less about her golf stroke. yeah

that's possible, he is a quick thinker. trump is a clever dude. yeah. >> you know, and she's gonna. yeah, she's gonna have a tough ride. >> yeah. it's not because easy. but she will also be able to hit backi but she will also be able to hit back i think she said during this speech, she said i will proudly put my record against any his any day of the week. >> what record ? what has she >> what record? what has she actually done? >> well, she was attorney general in, yeah. >> i don't care what she was. what has she done? >> well, as vice president, you can't do very much . but then her can't do very much. but then her record, i suppose, is in not doing certain things. she might need. >> that's a great record to have, isn't it, parker? her her record collection, i imagine a sort of calypso. >> i don't know, though. but let's have a look at the other papers. we've got a couple of minutes to get through very quickly. the times. kerry, >> i'm going to have a very quick mention of the headline at the top. it says, we got three years to prepare for war, warns army chief, and just that, that hit me at first because i thought he was threatening us. i thought, but he means the country. the other main story here is that long term six should be forced to seek work, and this is coming from labour health advisor, apparently we've got about 2.8 million people who

have long term sickness. and this is interesting because i think if the tories have said the same thing, it would have been criticised in a brutal way. >> they did say the same thing and well, but it was criticised in a brutal way, was i right? well, it was precise but but this is the problem because we have it's 64 billion a year. it's going to be it's up 30 billion since the pandemic. yeah. you know we're trying to get a couple of million billion here to do so to take away the two child cap that that would cost 3 billion. and we've got 30 billion going on long term sickness. this is obviously a huge issue. >> i think part of it is post—pandemic isn't it? a lot of people, i suspect, felt that they could coast from there. >> well, some of it might be long covid as well. yeah. yeah which which is still, questionable what it even is. but apparently this is all central. we keep hearing this expression now with everything coming out. it's central to keir starmer's plan, which says that also deserves an equal laugh after it. >> on the first floor. you covered there the three years to prepare for war, steve, and, alan, our, regular contributor,

has coined the acronym crink for the chinese, russian, north korean, and iran accepted it. >> right? yeah. >> right? yeah. >> and it's not been used here. they've gone for axis of upheaval. i think i think i think is the way is strong. >> what's interesting about that little article there is that he's not asking for more money. what he's saying is we've just got to be deadly. yeah. we've got to be deadly. yeah. we've got to be deadly. yeah. we've got to just kick some butt two seconds very quickly. >> cover the telegraph. josh >> cover the telegraph. josh >> gps threat to see fewer patients in payroll . so, go to patients in payroll. so, go to the doctors sooner rather than later. >> somebody. they hate us. >> somebody. they hate us. >> and i haven't seen this in print that, somewhere in the region of 50% of visits to the gp are with mental health issues. now, i don't know what i make of that exactly, but it doesn't feel like the ideal use of a gp's time. i'm not belittling those that need, but it feels like maybe it could be met more productively by people who had more narrow. well, there's three stories who specialise in mental health, right? >> mental people to go off benefits and go into the i don't think mental people is the expression that we use now, is it sorry, all the mental health people benefits and then get

into the army? i think rio is the most obvious way to deal with it very quickly. >> the daily star carry, the daily star, goes with, back of the net. >> and what this is about is the it's putting this as a scandal. i'm not sure whether it is a scandal, really. it's huw edwards who got a £40,000 pay rise being on television. yeah, sure. but is that unusual? he's not. he's not, any. i can't see any reason why he wouldn't get that payout. he hasn't been convicted of doing anything wrong. >> he's not, not actually doing any work, not appearing on the screen, doing his job. yeah. >> is that the norm when someone takes time off, right? or when they're off, they. they get paid still, don't they? so i've just been you get a pay rise for folks who go to the gp, and the poor fella takes a couple of years off. yes, it's all salary and we got back gary in at gary lineker earning nearly four grand. >> i think the bbc is held to account to slightly higher standards than a general private sector corporation that can decide whether or not to keep the ceo on, on full salary, if he has some sort of mental health issues. >> i don't think we have any choices about any of it, do we,

you know, gary lineker is getting the highest pay going, as you were just saying. so and i didn't vote for that, did you? >> he got us to the final. remember kerry, no. >> wokeness got us to the final. >> wokeness got us to the final. >> we have the, the first cake break coming up. we have, part two coming up with bye bye, baby. tate liable and hamas getting a bit previous. we'll

hello. welcome back to headliners. i'm simon evans. still got some newspapers to get through, so let's have a look with josh howie and kerry marx. josh, we kick off with wednesday's telegraph and they have the story that labour are to dismantle britain's first flatpack asylum barge. >> very good. yeah. like labour to axe the bibby stockholm under asylum overhaul. so some people go oh my god look labour they're closing. they've stopped rwanda and now they're closing the barges and they just want to let everybody in. there's a slight, misunderstanding of the story, which is the fact they're

saying, no, we're going to clear all the asylum seekers by then, so we won't need it because it's costing us a lot of money. right. so that's the idea. it was always up for renewal come january. so they're just not renewing it. and that's going to save us money. they're also saying that we're going to save 7 billion over the next decade, on top of the 750 million set aside for rwanda. and they're going to do that by cutting down the, the asylum, numbers, not numbers, like by processing all the asylum claims. and they're going to do that really cleverly by just letting everyone in. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so genius at this point, i don't think that's the worst scheme. what do you think, kerry? i mean, yes. what else has worked? >> is it nothing. nothing has worked. no, no. labour has of course inherited the tories, what i call migrant headache, for which there is no paracetamol. and so this is the bibby stockholm, which is an raf barge, which of course the tories tried to really sell the idea. it's a, it's a boat from boat holiday, which didn't really catch on. and, and really it's, it's been a failure from

the word go and, and a particularly grim one on one. well, it's, it's costing more than it costs to put people in hotels. which makes me wonder why we're putting the raf in raf bases. we might as well put them in hotels as well. so unfortunately, i think we should go with your plan, not just let them all in, but like sort of time it just open the door as they're all charging at it and they'll run straight through and out the other end. >> you think it's ireland? >> you think it's ireland? >> yeah, exactly. very possibly. at least you think they run that fast. >> the other one is to put them on the barge and take them back to france. but that's not going to france. but that's not going to work either. >> exactly. the old switcheroo. something else bad has happened. kerry and i expect it's andrew tate's fault. this is in the mail. >> well, it could be. andrew takes full, but i very much doubt it's all andrew tate's fault. they'll be told there's, an epidemic of violence against women and girls, which, you know. sure. i think for as long as i've been alive, there's been an epidemic of violence against women and girls. and everything now is an epidemic. you're about to ask me something. well, it's funny, you should say that, because i had an instinctive feeling that this might have been elevated media, you know, scare and moral panic or whatever. >> i had a look. and actually, there has been since 2012 a very

significant uptick in rape and sexual assault, very significant. not in the last couple of years. in the last 12 years, roughly, it's continued to escalate. oh, i wasn't saying it hasn't. >> all i'm saying is we've always described it as these terms. >> and you go, well, actually it's kind of, you know, like a violent crime and so on. >> we should, i should, i should, i should just say for people who don't know that he's, famous from social media, he's facing criminal charges in romania for rape, human trafficking, sexual sexual exploitation. i think the main thing for me, though , is the thing for me, though, is the police should be arresting people who are behaving in this way, and that's their job. i'm not sure it's the purview of the police to decide what the psychological causes are and who is to blame. i think there's someone who should be doing that, but not it's not perhaps their job that, but not it's not perhaps theirjob on last night, there their job on last night, there was a fellow who owns a posh, organic whole foods shop in in, camden or chiswick or something, who was complaining that, posh customers were shoplifting because they felt entitled to or something. >> you think this is, like, unhelpful, like moral, you know, moral projection ? yeah. moral projection? yeah. >> well, let's get to the crux of this, because this is what the article doesn't mention.

this is what we haven't mentioned is they're blaming this all on andrew tate. it's a very sneaky little article here because it talks about how the biggest rise in child sexual abuse is now the average age is 15. but that's not the totality of the story. that's one little part of it. the most shocking statistic here is that there's a 38% increase in charges for aduu 38% increase in charges for adult rape from 2022 to 23. now, that's a 38% increase in charges for adult rape . now, what is it? for adult rape. now, what is it? have british adults suddenly become a big old bunch of rapists, right? or has something else happened? had the demographics of this country changed in that time ? it doesn't changed in that time? it doesn't mention any immigration. now. we've seen it in other countries across europe where they release the figures of the percentage of rapes that are carried out by people who weren't born in that country. we have those figures in this country. they are not being released to the public. >> that's correct. and we have probably all of us seen the graph from denmark, right, where they released those figures. and it is so overwhelmingly obvious that not just ethnicities, but

actually more cultural backgrounds, it's a cultural thing. >> it's got nothing to but sorry to say, this whole bumph about andrew tate, he's not a good quy- andrew tate, he's not a good guy. i don't like him. there is an influence on our teenagers. absolutely. and that needs to be deau absolutely. and that needs to be dealt with. but to have this article, to have this press conference and not mention where this increase possibly has come from, i don't even know if it's coming from that 100. but the fact is, you've got to look at all the different factors here. >> it's cowardice, of course, and they think it would be inflammatory to discuss it or mention it, to release those figures. but of course, all that happens is it prevents it creates somewhere for suspicion, doubt, paranoia to fester. >> sure. and i also think we've been going on we clearly been going about it the wrong way for now because because otherwise we wouldn't have these figures . so wouldn't have these figures. so what's been happening for a long time now? and it's not that it's completely wrong, is a kind of demonisation of maleness and boys and toxic masculinity. so instead of saying, let's look at the actual perpetrators, it's a case of now there's something evil inside all of you. and i think that's been it's clearly not an approach that has worked. and it might be that we need to find something better in that way. >> will watch andrew tate in

order to reassure them. yes. i don't think that's the backlash going back out. and then, you know, like using the andrew tate playbook, i suspect a lot of them just spend the evening in looking at videos. >> well, i do wonder whether that demonisation causes andrew tate in the first place. >> there are misogynistic cultures out in the world, and that's the reality of it. >> that is true. and sadly, it is, vanishingly rare to hear anyone in power acknowledge it. josh, we have the telegraph and new culture secretary lisa nandy has waded into the trans or arguably has refused to wade in. >> well, this is exactly total cop out. new culture secretary steps into controversy over trans athletes in women's sports. this is lisa nandy someone i'm actually a bit of a fan of. i voted for her for the labour leadership many aeons ago. okay, she's quite a no nonsense person. she speaks her mind. but on this issue she is frankly pathetic and misinformed. and when she says here, she's basically saying , here, she's basically saying, leave it up to each individual sport, they'll kind of get it right. hum, what's like, what's it got to do with her? well, it's got to do with you because

you're a politician and you should be providing leadership in this matter. the fact is , men in this matter. the fact is, men have a physical advantage. that is a biological sports that have allowed for years. trans women , allowed for years. trans women, aka biological men to compete in these sports. >> so would you like to see actual legislation or just like sort of moral leadership? >> know what? i'd like to see legislation. and i'd like to see moral leadership. i'd just like to see leadership on it. >> i totally agree with you on the moral leadership front. and the moral leadership front. and the thing about these kind of issues is, as we all know, we've all been living through it for a number of years, especially if you work in a sort of comedy game where there's an industry which has certain sort of expectations that you certain lines you don't cross, you do need to see people in power willing to state basic facts. otherwise it's extraordinary how how much of a grip a certain kind of ideology takes over. >> yeah, it is interesting how fast this issue has completely changed culture in so many countries. i have a slight hesitation with this one, you know, because i mean , she is

know, because i mean, she is saying that biology does matter and she's not saying that. therefore, people born male should should be able to take part in women's sports, but she's more deferring government responsibility on it, which i think is i'm not sure i'm totally against because i'm not sure government should decide. i'm not sure a government should decide who takes part in a sport. i'm not sure that's within their their area of decision. you know, even though i agree with your principle. but i'm just this little hesitation that hopefully the different sports bodies will reach a good decision anyway, which is, suppose. >> i mean, there are certain sports, like for instance, darts or even it's not a sport, but it has had the r0 has emerged in chess whether or not women should be expected to play trans women, as in biological males in chess.i women, as in biological males in chess. i mean, i raised this the other day around a sort of lunch table, you know, and my, my wife, who's fairly sort of, you know, anti trans women in cycling or whatever was like, but it surely can't make any difference in chess , can it? but difference in chess, can it? but if it does, if women don't

usually want to have to compete with them, i feel they should have the right. >> it's not even. yeah the men do a lot better. even in chess, it's a physical. it has a physical effect. sport. it's sorry. chess does . and most of sorry. chess does. and most of the grand masters are still men. even after all this time. so there could be other reasons for it. >> but it does feel like if it's a protected category, that should be that. >> well, that. exactly. and lisa nandy said, oh, the culture wars are now over. i, labour's in. well, she's just lobbed a grenade. >> absolutely fair. they may or now kerry and hamas and fatah are in china like stalin and fdr in yalta, carving up post—war gaza between them. this strikes me as chutzpah . yeah. me as chutzpah. yeah. >> which, it starts off with a title of furious israel vows to crush hamas murderers and rapists after terror group struck chinese brokered national unity deal. it's. this story starts that way around with israel's reaction to it, rather than the actual news story, of course, is china's involvement. yeah. and china is what we can't say. china's doing this for humanitarian reasons. it's quite difficult. definitely political. china is, has killed a million tibetans since since it occupied

tibetans since since it occupied tibet . it's, it's got uyghurs in tibet. it's, it's got uyghurs in concentration camps. it's not really the peacemaker. you'd expect and want to step in at this point. yeah, but i suppose they're emphasising or asserting their right to broker these deals and not leaving it to america. >> now this is well, that's what they're trying to stick it to. >> america is what they're doing. >> yeah. yeah. so it is a stick it to america thing. it's also you know, they're bringing together leaders who who regularly renew the pay for slay, which is an extraordinary thing that even exists and that there is no massive worldwide objection to it. what that is, is that a pension is offered to anyone who kills a jew , and that anyone who kills a jew, and that is regularly renewed by abbas and hamas of course, which, you know, if you imagine that for any other identity, our tax , any other identity, our tax, well, we're giving money to it. and if you imagine that for any identity, you imagine any identity, you imagine any identity, whether gay people, women or whatever, if i were to say, and i'm not, that i will give £1 million to anyone who kills a woman, that would be horrifying , wouldn't it? no horrifying, wouldn't it? no matter what's going on. >> so as martin amis said

repeatedly, the opportunity to stand firm with salman rushdie, you know, years ago with a fatwa and we failed . yes. and ever and we failed. yes. and ever since then, you know, there's been a creep. >> i'll pass that josh on this. but i just wanted to add before i do, just to say that, the weirdest part of this is that in this constant idea of recognising palestine without any death, it's sort of anomalous, no definite borders or anything. what you're doing is you're creating an imperative for israel to destroy hamas because you're giving them a time limit. until that happens, they have to make sure that when it does happen, the hamas aren't going to exist. yeah, well, i mean, it's about china stepping onto the world stage. >> they're trying to show that they matter in. these have an impact now. but the thing is, of course, fatah and hamas, they hate each other. they've killed each other for years. yeah, the idea that they're going to join together and the idea that israel is going to allow that to happen, they've learned, hopefully from their mistakes. they are not going to let hamas empower in any capacity. and so the whole thing is redundant. >> guardian josh will just squeeze this in before the

break, news that the man google still describes as british social activist was somewhat more than that. is that true? yeah. okay. wow. yeah. >> islamist preacher anjem choudary guilty of directing terrorist organisation. this was on the front page of the mail as well. the question is, of course, how has this been allowed to happen? he'd already beenin allowed to happen? he'd already been in jail, he'd been allowed out. and the crazy thing is, it wasn't. actually the uk really caught him. it was the us agents who sort of who carried out a sting organisation. he was allowed to for about a year, nearly a year, sprout his hate online. he's been proven in the past to have radicalised people that have murdered people. and so, you know, actual terrorists sort of, yeah. and yet somehow what the uk police or the intelligence services kind of just let this go for that amount of time. >> he's a very clever operator, isn't he? well, he has a trained. yeah. and so on. and he is he knew where the law was. tightrope yeah. >> since 2017, we've, different law enforcement agencies have averted 39 late stage terrorist plots in the uk. right. we're

constantly on the edge of this. the problem with this is that how do you fight something like that whilst at the same time every week allowing tens of thousands of people to glorify hamas, hezbollah and the houthi and anything else that starts with h. >> which, yes, yes, that's part two. all done, in part three, we have elon. sad confession, shocking ancestry and the new word

and welcome back to headliners straight into wednesday's telegraph. carry elon musk in one of the biggest interviews of the year, revealing a significant part of his superhero or supervillain origin story. >> was he the biggest interview of the year? well, one of them, okay, yeah. >> so like 50 million or something views now. >> wow. really? so this is elon musk. yes. being interviewed by doctor jordan peterson. and musk. yes. being interviewed by doctorjordan peterson. and he's talking about his oldest son who was given, and he was talked

into beta blockers. sorry, puberty blockers being, good and healthy and so on. and now and as a result, his son transitioned and then didn't want anything to do with him anymore. and he's largely saying that part of his plan on x and to which used to be twitter, is the freedom of speech is to fight. fight what he's calling the woke mind virus, of course, it used to be something for wedding speeches to say i'm not losing a son. i'm gaining a daughter. but. but now . now it's daughter. but. but now. now it's something you can say about one person. >> and he sees his son in law had a variant where he said, i'm not losing a daughter. i'm gaining a bathroom. >> but of course, he feels that he's lost a son over it. and i'm not. personally, i don't know that it would have made much difference if x had been around . difference if x had been around. then i'm sure his son stroke daughter is, is able to read x and read all the other social media and clearly hasn't changed her mind about any of this. so i don't know. >> there is a little bit of kind of, post rationalisation possibly of why he took over, although it was on the trans

issue, wasn't it, because the specific incident that caused him to intervene and end up buying twitter , which became x, buying twitter, which became x, was the babylon bee doing a joke about man of the year? >> oh was it? i didn't know this. >> it was a picture of admiral rachel levine, trans woman and a man of the year. and it was taken down by twitter. it was banned and he at that point intervened. >> the fight was twitter was shadow banning outright banning anybody who said there were only two biological sexes. so they were totally ideologically driven. he has changed that. arguably, there's also been the price of free speech now is seemingly on my timeline anyway. inordinate amounts of anti—semitism and whatnot . yeah. anti—semitism and whatnot. yeah. but, but on this issue at least. >> well, it's a cat flap, isn't it? if it's if you loosen the spring, you know, that's not hitting me in the head. >> the problem is, the interesting thing about that interview, i thought, was that peterson was such a terrible interviewer. >> a terrible yeah, really bad because he couldn't empathise. >> he had to make it about him. >> he had to make it about him. >> but have you never watched him until he interviews loads of people and he's always like that. yeah. he's not an interviewer. >> he's just not. no. he needs >> he'sjust not. no. he needs to bring it back to him. this

guy is like really open. >> an idea floated past. he speaks for 12 minutes. >> yes. and then elon musk is going, yes. >> he's sort of he's you know what? musk was genuinely vulnerable or at least trying to pretend to be vulnerable. yeah. and he's just bulldozing over it. he's like, yeah, bruh. you know? >> and it's like because they found the format and it's i find it fascinating in the social media world, peterson's celebrity sort of skyrocketed . celebrity sort of skyrocketed. yeah. what are you going to do? he's going to have a podcast. he's going to have a podcast. he's going to interview guests. but he's not an interviewer. he's a speaker. and i still find him an interesting speaker. i like listening to him, but but the idea that it's you've got a tape. yeah. >> but also for a whole lot of reasons, i can fully understand what he's saying. i fully understand the situation, but at the same time, the responsibility of getting his son or daughter back is really his, isn't it? >> that's harsh. although he did say it's deadnaming for a reason. he i think he was reacting to the idea that he's not even allowed to call him xavier anymore. right? because thatis xavier anymore. right? because that is dead anyway. so i tend to agree it's hard to pronounce as well. reach it out. not if you're a, the mail have a surprising little nugget from

kamala harris. deep ancestry. >> yeah, kamala harris's great great great great grandfather was a notorious irish slave owner who bought jamaican plantation , travelled to london plantation, travelled to london to fight abolition, so i wonder if biden and her. maybe that's why they get on. they're both proud of their irish ancestry. as it reveals later down in the article, of course, the reason why this is a great, great, great great grandfather is unfortunately , one of her great unfortunately, one of her great great, great great grandmothers was raped by him, most likely. absolutely, which is a very common ancestry then in the canbbean common ancestry then in the caribbean region, and i imagine america, where places where slavery were enacted, but it also calls into question the two things which are whenever they look at this kind of stuff and they point pinpoint this one person from their ancestry, that person from their ancestry, that person probably has now thousands of, descendants like george the third. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so it's sort of ridiculous. and then when you start looking at reparations, well, it's like reparations for which percentage of you is part of it.

>> it is interesting, though , >> it is interesting, though, isn't it, that she is. we've already had barack obama. maybe i nag on this nerve too much, but barack obama, the first black, american black president and there's no question he was, but he was not in any in any degree a descendant of slaves. and kamala harris is being presented as a black, but she's not black in the sense that they understand it. again in america, the african american heritage, which i think you're going to play which i think you're going to play that card of, you're going to talk about in those terms, you know, she's a i'm not sure she's playing the i'm not sure she's playing the i'm not sure she's playing the card here or this is that way a little bit, but anyway, okay. >> but but it's also what's interesting is what you said and what's in the in the article here and says that her great great, great great descendant, was raped. it's like, yeah, but also your great great great great descendant was a rapist, right. and i met her a woman a while ago . we were chatting and while ago. we were chatting and she's mixed race and she she had her genes tested. she found out that her great great great grandfather was a slave. and the other one was she's also descended from a slave. right. but in a sense, that's all of us, right? if you see patriarchy

as something oppressive, we are all descended from men and women , all descended from men and women, right? we are all descended from from oppressors and oppressed. chances are so in the same sense, dozen generations of most of us, you're from a long line of us, you're from a long line of women in the last dozen generations of most people, you will find a rape. not no, not mine, not mine , i'll assure you mine, not mine, i'll assure you know, you can look at his face. >> actually , we've all we've all >> actually, we've all we've all been good. that is, ashkenazi jew all the way back to, like that. >> because i carry a, there's a historical observation, a mirror. have a story concerning what we can only hope is just the start when it comes to selecting airline seats, >> this is an indian airline which is now allowing women to choose seats to avoid sitting next to men so they can look up and they can find a pink seat, which is, means there's a woman sitting next to men. won't see this. men get the choice of seats. i think they can't see pink. but actually, that's quite interesting because for a long time now we've been we've been fighting or, people on the left being fighting this idea that boys and girls play with different toys and have

different toys and have different colours, but now we're going back to just pink in order to help women, not. i'm not sure how this will affect trans people, by the way. we're going to that's going to come into this at some point. they pink, pink, blue trans people in india, are they not? well, they probably do. well still trans transatlantic flights right . so transatlantic flights right. so they should have a few of them. very good, thank you very much. l, very good, thank you very much. i, you know, i think, many women will will welcome this. and what i'd like is to avoid sitting next to people who are not. i've got anything against large people, of course, but when i get on a plane, i'd like to choose a seat. not sitting next or a baby. i'm not. i don't have anything against babies, but. but that kind of thing i don't agree with. and i'll tell you what's going to happen, is that ryanair and easyjet are going to start doing this, and then they're going to allow you to pay they're going to allow you to pay for an extra seat to sit next to a woman. that's what's coming here. >> do you think that this is coming from anything approaching sort of feminism, or do you think it's coming more from religious conservative, >> i think the two arguably could be intertwined here. this is coming from they they've asked lots of female passengers, done big studies on it. there is an issue, i believe, of , sexual an issue, i believe, of, sexual assault as there is all over the

world. and i think a lot of women would feel much more comfortable sitting next to a woman. fair enough. i think it's a good idea. implement it. great. >> telegraph carry, very quickly. some ridiculous old beaches policing our language again. vegetative state is out for patients who are in a vegetative state, >> i've been waiting for this one, by the way. i've been waiting for this. i predict very soon we're going to get rid of the word dead. we're going to find that offensive to dead people on life. yeah, yeah, yeah. unlife. yeah, we're doing that already, aren't we? >> actually, twitter today, to according their actually. and i thought that was a bit sort of jarring. but go on. sorry. >> so okay, i'm going to brief this down or cut this down. it's basically this is a judge. they're saying the judge has ruled that the term vegetative state should be replaced with prolonged disorder of consciousness. as far as i can read from this, he hasn't at all what he's read, what he's what he's ruled is that a patient needs to be taken off the life support, because he also talks about how it's an islamic family and they believe that allah is going to save the patient anyway, but that's not. and he's agreed with that and be nice

about it, but he's not ruled it. what he's ruled is that the patient comes off the machines. >> if vegetative state is an offensive term, i think it should be used because then it would , like, offend the person would, like, offend the person who's in a vegetative state and see if they're offended or not. yeah. oh good, a good plan. really good abuse. are you? idiot. why can't you be by yourself and then if they really don't respond, then they probably are. unfortunately, i should have said that we are three quarters done still to come. >> cocaine r , sharks, test tube and how to avoid the

and welcome back to headliners. so we have one more section. josh, the guardian kick us off with a story bound to infuriate anyone who doesn't see why sharks shouldn't pay for theirs like everyone else. yeah, yeah. >> cocaine, sharks . that's the >> cocaine, sharks. that's the headune >> cocaine, sharks. that's the headline we wanted to get to all evening. cocaine sharks. why sea creatures swimming in drug tainted waters this is rio de janeiro. they've tested a bunch of sharks. they found loads of coke in their system. it's coming from sewage laced with pharmaceuticals and also wastage from illegal labs , the side from illegal labs, the side effects are the sharks are sniffing more. yeah, the good news is that it puts you off your appetite. so they're not killing as many people. well, this is the thing most people , this is the thing most people, most people, when they hear, when they hear cocaine, sharks, they picture a great white. >> but i spent most of the harmless little annoying sort of sharks just can't shut up ,

harmless little annoying sort of sharks just can't shut up, i should say. >> the last two things i said were jokes and not scientific. whether or not i was here, i thought you were being really serious. >> this is one of those funny, not funny stories, though, isn't it? it's really awful. it's about the pollution in the in the sea. but at the same time, cocaine sharks are very funny. and apparently because of that, the new jaws film music is going to be. de de de de de de de de de de de of course, you know, cocaine turns people into big mouths and we really don't need that happening with sharks. and and when you are taking cocaine or any, any narcotics , remember or any, any narcotics, remember to drink plenty of water. sharks so yeah, at least i'd have to go to a toilet to do it. isn't it basically giving it to a shark? >> yeah. i mean, unable to be any more cocaine. >> i didn't know jealousy was going to come into this, but what was that bear that got cocaine? >> bear? >> bear? >> yeah, they made a film that kind of elevated its bearish behaviour. >> i think this is a whole new subgenre. like animals on cocaine. >> yes. yeah. the squirrels in brixton on cocaine, apparently. so. yeah yes. male. >> now carry we're we're to be phased out. replaced with lab

grown testicles. yeah. this is laced with cocaine. it's not sure this is what we need now, isn't it ? isn't it? >> a woman who is growing testicles in a lab , she's testicles in a lab, she's growing male testes in in as a test, which is exactly what you should do. she's called doctor gonin, which they didn't even go with. gone and the gonad grower, which i would have definitely put into the, the article somewhere. and this is in the university in israel. so we're definitely this is a new conspiracy loading up right now. >> jews control sperm. >> jews control sperm. >> who's control testicles? sperm the a fertile man produces 66 million sperm per millilitre of semen on average. speak for yourself. well, no, i'm 67 million. i actually counted them. it took me. took me years. and i'm still counting right now, actually, and, everything she says here, people always ask me if the aim of my work is one day to get rid of men. ha ha ha ha ha! it all sounds so evil, and i'm sure she goes home with jars of lab grown testicles in her home. and soon we're gonna hear sci fi movies where the.

>> what was that dentist with the little brains? little shop of horrors? oh, yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's right. yeah >> that's right. yeah >> feed me. anyway, the post—olympic blues now, josh, possibly sperm donation would be a way to cure it, i don't know, what do they got? well, it's quite interesting. >> athletes offered military style counselling for post—olympic blues because, of course, they can have decompression , after that, it's, decompression, after that, it's, you know, this is something they've been building up to for years. sometimes their whole lives really, or adult lives. and then it's over now , whether and then it's over now, whether you win or you lose, it's over. and i think we have a similar experience with, edinburgh. yeah.i experience with, edinburgh. yeah. i was going to say. experience with, edinburgh. yeah. i was going to say . yeah. yeah. i was going to say. yeah. yeah, absolutely like that or indeed our entire careers. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. exactly. >> yeah. exactly. and >> yeah. exactly. and it's >> yeah. exactly. and it's all over. >> oven >> where's our decompression? oh, it is true. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> so i think it makes a lot of sense to be able to provide that facility for them. and i think, funnily enough, people find themselves lost. >> did you ever go to the, the camps in cyprus where the soldiers would come back from afghanistan? yes >> so soon we'll have those that work as well for , for athletes. work as well for, for athletes. but what it is, they they ,

but what it is, they they, they're getting the blues from doing the, you know, from, from the month of this and, but they can get over a hurdle and a high jump. and the trouble is they can't get over the blues and which is really sad. and they're suffering. it's like they're saying it's like a war zone. they can't get over shell suit shock. i'm sorry about that. but that we near the end of the program, aren't we the producer about the best joke you've done in here. >> but funny enough, it is. that is the other thing, isn't it? you are. you are preparing yourself for your. your four minutes or 30s. yeah. shorter but also. and this is why it's like the war. you're also being depended on by team gb or whatever. there is that sense that you've got other people's back and they've got yours and you're all part of a group effort. and having that withdrawn from you suddenly can be. actually, that is exactly what they say. post—traumatic. >> i fully get it. but it's not a war. it's not. and it's not the same as soldiers coming back from a war. yeah, yeah, there's similarities and comparisons, but it's not a war, right? it's caring and good luck to them and give them the decompression and everything. but it's not a war, right? a lot of war. >> chariots of fire, grimsby. >> chariots of fire, grimsby. >> now that's not a war either,

but it is renewing. its long and proud association with the people of north korea. >> yes. okay so and so what they're doing is taking a trick from i don't know whether it's really anything to do with north korea other than there was that business recently of north korea and south korea playing messages to each other at the border, telling each other the wrong . telling each other the wrong. >> they play music and they used speakers and stuff. >> they used speakers. yes. so this is that they didn't invent using speakers, did they? oh, it's so north korea, they use speakers and they're playing stuff like, i love the fat man or don't go to south korea. >> what do you do? i imagine it's true. >> it is a ridiculous idea that using speakers is a korean invention. yes, of course not. >> where they make them . >> where they make them. >> where they make them. >> oh, right. is that right? you're making up facts now . so you're making up facts now. so the idea is they're going to play the idea is they're going to play on a loop. they're going to play play on a loop. they're going to play messages telling people that it's antisocial to cycle . that it's antisocial to cycle. and then after a while they're going to realise it's really anti—social to play messages on anti—social to play messages on a loop. it's gonna be annoying to pedestrians. and then they're going to have to have other

speakers on the other side of the road telling the people with the road telling the people with the speakers to stop doing that, because that's anti—social. and this is a vicious cycle. there's never going to end vicious cycle. >> very good. we have one last story to squeeze in. josh the sun have the second new barbie of the summer. we've had secret service barbie. what's this one? >> this one is barbie unveils first ever blind doll featuring white and red cane. not that you would know. and, tactile clothing, which is probably a really good idea. i imagine, for any children who are blind , this any children who are blind, this would be something really nice. i mean, i got to be honest, you could just give them a normal barbie and say with a cane, with a bit of yes, with a match to sell a cane to adapt regular barbie. >> all, all dolls are blind. i don't know whether this is news to people, but they can't see. they can't. >> they're not tactile. i don't know what. >> yeah. there's tactile thing is tactile clothing i get i mean no i get it . no i get it. >> it's nice. it's a nice thing to do. it's right. we're very happy that there's something goodin happy that there's something good in the news. >> still managing to squeeze a tiny last drop of life out of their ridiculously antiquated artefact. the show is nearly oven artefact. the show is nearly

over. let's take another quick look at wednesday's front pages. the, times long term six should be forced to seek work. there is image daily mail why was jihad preacher agreed to spout hate or sprout hate? i think it's spout telegraph gp's threat to see fewer patients in pay row. guardian. we will win this election, harris tells democrats. that's the very least you would expect of her. the express bbc chief. very sorry for strictly bullying scandal. the daily star finally back of the for net gary lineker. that's all we have time for. thank you to my guest, josh howie and kerry marx. we're back tomorrow at 11 pm. steve and alan in the hot seat with his crimp joined by leo kearse and nick dixon. that's the a—team. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise, thank you for your company. thank you and good night. >> we're the a—team . >> we're the a—team. >> we're the a—team. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news

>> evening. thanks forjoining me for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. for many, it's dry overnight and it'll be another fine day tomorrow with some good spells of sunshine. later on though, cloud and rain which is lurking behind me will start to spread in to parts of the west. we've seen a few showers around today. they're fading now this evening, so generally it's a dry night. bit of mist and fog here and there, but most areas just staying clear and some staying quite mild as well. quite a warm night in the south. temperatures holding up in the teens here a little lower across scotland and northern england, but generally a fine start to wednesday. some cloud but many areas starting off with a bit of sunshine and much of northern scotland will stay fine and sunny through the day. some of the highest temperatures, likely on the moray firth through the afternoon. across northern ireland, generally a dry and a bright start, but we are going to see the cloud increasing here and start to push in. some outbreaks of rain as we go through the morning, much of england and wales starting dry fine, with some good spells of sunshine and a bit of sunshine.

this time of year soon start to lift those temperatures as well, so as we go through the day we will see this cloud increasing across the west. there's the rain spreading into northern ireland and also further east lincolnshire down towards cambridgeshire, across norfolk, suffolk. 1 or 2, possibly heavy showers are possible through the middle part of the day, but many areas staying dry until this rain creeps into west wales , rain creeps into west wales, cornwall, the isles of scilly, maybe south—west scotland later on, as well as turning down across northern ireland with the cloud and the rain in the west a little cooler than today, but further east a little warmer than today 26 or 27. the showery rain will continue to spread and we will see some heavier bursts through wednesday evening across scotland. that tends to pull away during thursday and then to down the south a different day with some heavier bursts of rain coming in across southern counties of england during thursday. some lively showers for scotland and northern ireland, but in between northern england, parts of wales generally dry everywhere. a touch cooler on thursday looks

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for voting against the government, while james cleverly is the first official candidate for conservative leadership. >> as the process begins today. >> as the process begins today. >> kamala harris holds her first campaign rally since launching her bid for the presidency. >> i will spend the coming weeks continuing to unite our party so that we are ready to win in november . november. >> the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, arrives in