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along the banks of the gathered along the banks of the city's river for the official opening of tonight's games. it's going ahead as planned, despite some concerns over security following attacks on the country's high speed railway, causing travel disruption . causing travel disruption. today, the athletes have been seen parading along the river, with boats in the ceremony taking place outside of a stadium for the first time in the event's history . we were the event's history. we were hoping to cross live to our reporter sophie reaper , who is reporter sophie reaper, who is there for us. if we do manage to connect with her, we will bring that straight to you to get the reaction from the scenes of that opening ceremony. but plenty more coverage on the olympics throughout the rest of this evening . well, an alternative evening. well, an alternative healer has been convicted of manslaughter after a diabetic woman died when she stopped taking her medication at his slapping therapy workshop. hongkai zhao, who has no medical qualifications, preached the benefits of hitting yourself to rid your body of toxins . rid your body of toxins. danielle carr—gomm, who was 71,
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had been following his instructions at a wiltshire retreat in 2016. here, the mayor of greater manchester has appealed for rigorous and swift investigations into criminal allegations of assault by police at the city's airport this week, at the city's airport this week, a video shared online shows an officer kicking and stamping on the head of a man. the police watchdog is now looking into the incident to determine whether his use of force was acceptable . his use of force was acceptable. well, let's cross live now to sophie reaper. she's joined us on the banks of the river in the french capital, hopefully with a bit of an update on what's going on. sophie >> well, the opening ceremony is well and truly underway. now, here in paris, you can hear the music here behind me. the rain is coming down, but it isn't dampening spirits. i think so far we're up to canada. they've made their way along, and soon we will start to see the boats
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coming past us here on the seine at the eiffel tower. we've heard lady gaga perform as well, which was absolutely phenomenal. and all eyes are going to be waiting for team gb to make their way past us. all of our athletes were so proud of them ahead of their performances here in paris. for the olympic games 2024. >> sophie, thank you very much indeed. you've certainly got the best seat in the house, but nothing on lady gaga or celine dion have a fantastic evening. see you a bit later. well, in other news today, a rapist who threw a boy off a cliff to try to cover up his crimes has been sentenced to life in prison. anthony stocks raped and sexually assaulted a girl multiple times between 2019 and 2022, when she confided in a boy stocks threw him off a cliff. miraculously, he did survive but continues to suffer ongoing health issues. the perpetrator was convicted of a number of crimes , including attempted crimes, including attempted murder and rape. he'll now spend at least 19 years behind bars.
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and finally, before we head back to lee, drivers are being taken for a ride when filling up at the pump. that's according to the pump. that's according to the aa, which is calling on the government to take action. it comes after the competitions and markets authority issued a report that found fuel prices were significantly above historic levels . but independent historic levels. but independent fuel retailers say their critics aren't taking account of costs like wages or electricity . those like wages or electricity. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sam francis, your next update at 8:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> welcome to the andertons real world. and tonight i'm joined by former labour adviser stella sadiq khan. now and i've got the brilliant theo usherwood, who's a former political editor at
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lbc. we'll get straight to it guys. tonight the labour party have come out, come out the traps really quick on the, on the immigration crisis, the, the asylum process . labour said asylum process. labour said they're going to sort this out. they started by making an announcement over the bibby stockholm they're going to close that down. they're going to fast track asylum claims. theo. is this going to work? >> it is remains to be seen whether it's going to work. look, what they're trying to do is two things. they're trying to take the heat out of the situation. so they're closing down the bibby stockholm. it was, of course, subject to a number of challenges. there were huge problems with it in terms of legionnaire's disease and of course, fire safety on board the bibby stockholm. so labour, the government wants to take the heat out of the immigration debate. and also you know, i'd point you to you'd have seen some of those home office memes, cards on the internet where they talked about irregular migration rather than illegal migration. they're trying to dampen down. what's the difference? well i
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think the word illegal is seen to be more contentious. i think it seemed to be, it seemed to be more inflammatory. so what they're trying to do is they're trying to try and dampen down the debate. so it's not such an immigration isn't such a hot topic. and then get to the business of trying to sort it out. of course, they've shut that, shut down the rwanda scheme, and they're also planning to overturn a clause in rishi sunak and suella bravermans migration act, which basically lee had the effect of meaning that if you came to this country by a small boat, you would have no right to claim asylum in this country. and the argument that yvette cooper was making in the house of commons was that this had created a huge backlog of 100 and 100 to 120,000 people just stuck in the system . and that, in a perverse system. and that, in a perverse way, it acted as an incentive because the smuggler gangs were able to say to those charging, you know, two and a half grand a time to cross the channel, you can come to the country and you're just going to be stuck in this system because they're not going to process you. now, the
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figure that i found extraordinary to come out of the house of commons was that there's a projection. this came from yvette cooper, that within four years time, the whole asylum system would cost the government, cost the taxpayer, you and me, your constituents lea 30 to £40 billion. wow. because it's just you're just more and more people are going into the system and not coming out of the system. so their solution is to take out that clause. but that then gives the right to anybody who arrives by a small boat to claim asylum in this country. and the refugees council's own numbers put it put the success rate for those claims at around 62%. so that means that around 70,000 people in that backlog are going to have successful claims to stay in this country. >> not a good start. stellar for the labour party, is it? this, like theo just said, 60 to 70,000 of the people already in the system are pretty much guaranteed to get their asylum claim passed and stay in this country. >> what are you comparing these figures to? to say that this is
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a bad start. i think this is an excellent start. this is exactly what they needed to be doing within their first 100 days. the numbers that you are suggesting are not bad for a country the size of the uk. let me remind you, i come from greece. we have a lot more than those arriving on our shores. and just because the uk the previous government, wanted to do something illegal, basically and stop accepting refugees completely, doesn't mean that the problem of refugees stops being the case in the current international context, right? so i would say it's a very good start. and as theo said, it's very important that the backlog is dealt. >> can i just ask you a question, please? you talk about refugees. do you think these people coming over the english channel people coming over the english channel, who we sometimes billed as being trafficked by the evil gangs , are they genuine refugees gangs, are they genuine refugees that fleeing a war torn country and persecution? because the last time i looked, it's pretty peaceful in france, apart from sometimes in paris when it kicks off, as you just said, it's just 62% that get accepted. >> so the rest of them don't get
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accepted. they get denied asylum. now, i'm sure you would agree that if someone has family in the uk and if they speak english, that is a very good reason why they would want to come to the uk and stay here, right? >> no, i don't agree with that. >> no, i don't agree with that. >> you don't you don't agree that a refugee who already has family members here would have, would be much more able to assimilate. >> i thought the idea of fleeing persecution and a war torn country was to go and be safe, not worry about whether or not they speak the english. do you think the refugees during the world war ii, do you not think that they wanted to come to the us because they had family? well, i know families of refugees from the second world war. i used to work with many sons and grandsons of the eastern european refugees down the pits. when i worked down the coal mines. and let me tell you, when their grandparents came from places like latvia at the end of the war, these were displaced people, by the way, who'd been forced to fight for the germans. they then had to come back because they didn't go back to their villages. they could not speak a word of english. they came here, they learnt the language, they assimilated, and they made good
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lives for themselves. but they genuinely feared for their lives. >> i think. i think there will be a lot of refugees who genuinely feared for their lives as well. look, i accept your point. there are a lot of people who want to come here as economic migrants. i take that this does not make them bad people. i understand that you want to live in a world where immigration is not a thing, so they are economic migrants. then there are some economic migrants are for sure 100%, and a lot of them are going to get their applications denied. yes. and a lot of them will get deported back to wherever they came from. >> so where do we send? i mean, yvette cooper has been asked time and time again, if you get an illegal come over the channel an illegal come over the channel, they turn out to be from afghanistan, where we don't have a returns agreement with and they get their asylum claim rejected, where the labour party are going to send them to. >> yeah. if they come from afghanistan, there is a very good chance that they are genuine refugees, though, you understand? >> but what if they're not? >> but what if they're not? >> then you will need to have. you will need to have an agreement with the rest of the european countries, because if that person doesn't have any good claim, then they should go back to the country that they
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initially came from so that they initially came from so that they initially entered through. sorry, this is why you need to have an agreement with the rest of the european countries. however, you are still talking to me about a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny number of people. so i am wondering why, with all of the massive problems that the uk has right now, do we need to worry about a handful of people at the same time? when we are in need of workers for jobs such as construction workers? >> listen, this is not a handful of people i want to come back to theo because he needs to have his say. this is not, you know, when you've lived and worked here all your life, as i have, as my parents and my grandparents, and you've paid into the system and you have made this country into the great country, it is the last thing you want is people coming over here taking advantage of not just our asylum system, our legal system, our housing, our benefits, our health care. this is what wins people up in this. i understand. >> so if you are granted refugee status, having gone through the asylum seeker, it is at that point you have the right to work and you have the right to claim benefits. yeah. and the and this is recognised in the labour
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party by the way, i don't think this is a particularly contentious issue is that if you if labour finds itself at the next election in five years time and we know that as well as taking a significant chunk out of the tory vote, there were also signs that reform uk was taking large chunks, particularly in the north east, out of the labour vote as well. and it's recognised, i think , in and it's recognised, i think, in number 10 we've heard people like wes streeting, the health secretary, allude to it as well , secretary, allude to it as well, that if this problem becomes so big and it continues to be a problem, then that is only going to add succour to people like your leader of reform uk, nigel farage and of course richard tice. so i think there's a recognition that this needs to be dealt with. now. the problem, which i think is, is can be predicted is that if you are giving, let's say , let's say giving, let's say, let's say let's call it 62%, which is what the refugee council is saying. the problem is that if you say to the gangs, right, they recognise they they read the they know the system as well as
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anybody. we would imagine. that's why they're taking it. they're able to take advantage of it and operate. so effectively. and of course it's a they need to be they need to be smashed. as keir starmer says, nobody denies that. but if they're able to say to somebody, right, 2500 pounds and i'm going to give you a 6 in 10 chance that when you get to the uk, you're going to be able to say, i would, i would predict that's quite a good sell from their point of view, 6 in 10 are going to be able to stay in the uk. the good news is theo, if you do get rejected you can just go missing. well yeah i mean that's a huge problem with detention. and that was always a problem. and that was always a problem. and i remember speaking to people within the border force about this, senior people in the border force. and that was always a problem with the rwanda scheme, the premise of the rwanda scheme, because the home office would write a letter. and this was the argument, if i write you a letter and i say dearly in ten days time, i'm going to turn up at your hotel and i'm going to deport you to rwanda. what are you going to do, clear off? precisely. and they didn't have, you know, they weren't the tories. and this is
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just because of the system. they weren't able to back it up with detention centres. there aren't enough 30s left. >> i can see stella's chomping at the bit here. come on. come back at me. >> so, so i agree this is a big problem and labour is aware of that. that's why labour is going to smash the gangs. what does that mean for less than 2%. the rwanda scheme for, for for, the amazing price of 7.7 billion about the rwanda scheme over the next, about what is labour going to solve this crisis, going to deal with less than 2% of asylum seekers? there is such a thing as a problem that is too difficult to deal with completely. the problem is that governments to appease voters and to appease people from the reform party, the previous government, the conservative party, because they were just thinking about their electoral success, spend all of their time completely neglecting all of the other massive problems this country has. >> oh, there you go. what's a great discussion. thanks, stella. thanks, theo. coming up next, we've got a roundtable discussion just stop oil
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judith raanan . i'm joined now by
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judith raanan. i'm joined now by phillip blonde, who was a former adviser for david cameron and stella sadiq khan. have i said that right? i'm sorry. yeah. look, a quick discussion this week. we saw these eco loons, the lunatics. just stop oil a few of them locked up, i think five years. some of them got locked up. people are fed up with these, phillip. these these lunatics, you know, bringing our lives to a standstill. i think they've got their just desserts. what do you think? >> oh, i think for the level of disruption that they caused, the indifference they showed to the general public, they did real harm. they prevented people from hospital treatment, and they were wholly indifferent to it. so i think that for their persistent, wilful breaking of the common good, yes, i do think they got their just desserts . they got their just desserts. what worries me about police and enforcement is it's so unclear. we had in the same week people kind of responsible for assaults
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on women, rape. various forms of violence essentially getting away with minimal, restrictions or punishments. away with minimal, restrictions or punishments . so i'm all for, or punishments. so i'm all for, for, for strong action against people who, who attack the general public. but that's what i want across the board , not i want across the board, not just we selective. we've got stella. >> stella's from greece as we know. how would the greek authorities, the police force, the judiciary deal with these sort of agitators back in your country? >> you don't want to use the greek police as your, standard for how you want this government to be govern this country, to be governed. you can do better than that. don't worry about greece. we have our own problems. what i would say about people here and again, like in greece, political protest is quite different. and i think violent protest, we should be harsh with violent protest when someone is breaking the law, we should be prosecuting them. but i don't think that non—violent political protest is the same as the
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crimes that you were just talking about. i feel like rape and murder and all of these things, these are completely different. and the average person understands that . and of person understands that. and of course, the average person is very frustrated with the disruption. i'm frustrated with the disruption as well . i don't the disruption as well. i don't think that they are always getting the their aims achieved through these these means, but there needs to be there is an understanding in our society that political protests that are special, there is a special allowance that we have for political protest. and this is because throughout the history of the world, we have seen over and over again that there are times when political protest has been used for things that now we are very grateful to have achieved. >> philip, do you want to come back on that? well, look, i think that the level of disruption that that people like just stop oil, are doing and hitherto for have had largely gone away with polarises society and does great harm to the to the common good from attacks on artworks to wholesale blockages
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of public transport, with with many people being harmed by that. >> i think that deserves harsh punishment. when it's persistent and when it's done with the degree of foresight and indifference to public need, all i'm saying is we need to apply that level of consistency across the board , because many people the board, because many people feel that those who do actual violence against the person in some ways are subject to less stringent measures . so my only stringent measures. so my only argument is for consistent return to clear lines across stella, we've got hyde park just a few miles away. >> we've got parliament square there. people are out there, out there. people are out there, out there yesterday demonstrating peaceful . yeah. they weren't peaceful. yeah. they weren't making a racket, but that's their right to do that. make a little bit of noise outside. the mother of all parliament. surely that's the way to conduct yourself when you're protesting. if you don't get any, if you don't make any noise, how are you going to get the headlines? >> and look, once again, i don't i don't are you condoning this
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behaviour? i do not condone this behaviour. no, but i do think that it needs to be tolerated. like like a lot of other blocking motorways. there are a lot of things that i don't condone, right? i do not condone. >> so you're on your own. just say, for example, you're a family member of an accident this afternoon, you're on your way to the hospital, you've got blue lights on and the motorway is blocked off by just stop oil. >> yeah, that is disgraceful. i would be, i would be really ashamed of myself. it was. >> should they go to prison? should >> no, because it's not just just stop oil. it's it's also farmers who are doing the same when they go and they block the mi5, when they go and they block the m15, right. am i am i correct in saying that 95. yeah, i am 25. sorry. yes, so do you think the farmers should go to prison for blocking the roads when they do that with their trucks? >> it's persistent behaviour . >> it's persistent behaviour. with this level, the farmers go to prison. >> that was a one off. >> that was a one off. >> stella, should we send the. >> stella, should we send the. >> when it's persistent behaviour that harms the public good and it produces a polarises society. so you have a small minority, exercising power against the majority. and it's
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akin to public disorder. it's akin to public disorder. it's akin to public disorder. it's akin to widespread public disorder. it polarises society and destroys consensus in society. and indeed it harms their own aims. and i think if you do that persistently with wilful intent, yes, you should go to prison. >> you should. we need to be consistent and we need to apply this across the board. and you said, what would you do if your mother was dying and you needed to take her to hospital? that can happen from a farmer blocking your road once. do we send farmers to prison? >> but stella, phil's made a good, reasonable point there. the farmers do it once every ten years. >> no, they don't do it. >> no, they don't do it. >> these lunatics are out every week. >> you ask me about greece, they do it every year in greece. >> every year we're not in greece. >> should i should i send the farmers to prison? >> you said we shouldn't take lessons from greece. >> should i go back to my own country and ask my government? >> i'll just end on that note. thanks, guys. joined now by phillip blonde, former adviser to david cameron. good to have you in the pub. cheers. young man. quick sip of that. so look
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we've probably come from different backgrounds. i'm from some people would say the north of england, it's actually the north midlands coal mining community and the political geography. back in the day, when i was growing up, my dad was at the pit and i went down the pit after my dad. was it was all those soft southern tories and we are tough socialists in the north. that sort of political geography. phil, that has changed. that's been flipped on its head over the past ten, 15 years. >> it has indeed. i mean, i born and raised in liverpool, so i was around kind of the genuine falling apart of working class communities and the inability of the state to do anything about it. and what we've seen, not just in britain, but in america and across the world, is that the working class have shifted from left to right, and they've shifted from left to right , shifted from left to right, because left wing parties have been captured by the upper middle class, and they pursue progressive agendas that pretend to look after the interests of working class people. but essentially promote the interests of upper middle class
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and across the west from trump. to, assemblee nationale in france to meloni in italy, the working classes have moved to the right, and the right either augns the right, and the right either aligns with the interests of its new voting class or doesn't. and in the case of britain, the conservative party remained a liberal party and got roundly annihilated at the polls , annihilated at the polls, largely in part because of that. >> yeah, but is there any difference? do you think, phil, between the labour party at the moment and the conservative party? i mean, george galloway made a comment a few months back about, two, two cheeks of the same, not say the last word. it's too early, but i thought it was pretty spot on with that . was pretty spot on with that. >> well, largely, yes. we've been governed by liberals, since the time of mrs. thatcher. we've been governed by economic liberalism and social liberalism and the disaster with david cameron is that the last vestiges of social conservatism were abandoned. and we embrace social and economic liberalism.
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now, what this means is that essentially, the, the needs, the collective needs of those in the bottom half of society were ignored, abandoned mass globalisation , mass migration globalisation, mass migration were, cultural security. economic security is no longer an option for ordinary people in this country. and what that then means is , is that the ideology means is, is that the ideology that animates both left and right is indeed the same . and we right is indeed the same. and we desperately need a new alternative. but the current parties cannot deliver it. >> that's a great chat. time's up. another sip of your beer. >> well, thank you. >> well, thank you. >> coming up next, we've got versus left.
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right. it's time for. well, it's normally right versus left. but this week, we've got a special twist to the show. we've got
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green versus red. we've got the right side of politics versus the wrong side of politics. welcome back, stella. and we've got the legendary dynamo and green goddess model just all round. brilliant woman i think. but stella's not bad either , but stella's not bad either, it's great to have two women together at this part of the show. and i want to talk a little bit about what it's like to be a woman in 2024. now you're more senior than in years, but you can remember what it was like a few decades ago. being a woman in this country , being a woman in this country, how have things changed? >> things have changed a lot. i am 85, and so i remember , am 85, and so i remember, obviously, my mother and her friends when i was a little girl and life was totally different for them. yeah, totally different , a woman for them. yeah, totally different, a woman was more or less expected to be at home if she could work permitting, but that was the most important thing, and she obviously looked after us children. but even more
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importantly, she looked after the man in the family and he came in having done his day's work, put his feet up, put his slippers on, and that was it. so a woman's place was in the kitchen back in the day. >> but it's not now, is it? stella >> definitely not. definitely not. and also stella. sorry. call me stella. sorry, stella. not sure why. and also, when you think about it, my mother and her generation would have washed things by hand and then use the. what do we call it, the washboard, washboard and all that business and then hung things out on the line. well, that could take a day to get anything dry after that . anything dry after that. nowadays you just plonk it in a machine , close the door, and two machine, close the door, and two hours later it's all done. >> stella, have you ever used the old scrubbing board? >> so my mother used to have one in the village where she grew up. so i've seen one. i've seen my mother use it. i've seen my grandfather and my grandmother use it. i can't remember using it myself. >> okay. so obviously, like, i
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said before, different culture in greece where you grew up . and in greece where you grew up. and how does that compare, do you think for the women that were growing up in the uk, feminism is a lot more accepted in the uk than it is in greece? >> this is one of the, i would say this is an important factor for me wanting to stay in the uk rather than go back to greece. obviously things are improving back home in greece. feminism is coming everywhere. yeah, but there is a lot more sexism . it's there is a lot more sexism. it's a, it is difficult being a woman in public life in the uk for sure. and i see that whenever i go on media, i do get a lot of sexist comments and a lot of people commenting on, you know, my appearance or the way i speak and the way that i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be commenting. what did what did he say to you, stella? so i often feel like they will pay a lot more attention. negative attention on me as a person, whereas i will go on the videos of male commentators like myself and all of the comments will be about, the, the content of what they are saying about their arguments about the topic that is being
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debated. whereas you go under a video of me and there are so many comments about where i'm from, the way i speak, what i'm wearing, how i look. a lot of people make comments about my nationality, but i'm not saying that to say things are terrible here. things would be much worse back in greece for a similar person like myself. when you are a woman in public life in greece, you have to make do with men on media actively saying sexist slurs in your face and you are not allowed to react because then you are not seen to because then you are not seen to be a good sport . be a good sport. >> so my goodness, things have changed here because i mean, women here in in business, in politics, i mean , they're politics, i mean, they're accepted as they are strong women as long as they, you know , women as long as they, you know, can voice their opinions, they're accepted. >> i think that's it, diane. i think in this country, you know, women do have to fight. a little bit odder still, i think to get on in public life, they do get off. they do. they are they are
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very well respected. and i think, i think maggie sort of started this back in. she did. yeah.i started this back in. she did. yeah. i don't think she was all that much for women's rights as such. that much for women's rights as such . but she just proved that a such. but she just proved that a woman could get to the to the very top by by being strong. yes. and she set the mark. >> yeah. and women certainly women of i'm starting obviously at my age to know them at 6040 and they are strong women in the jobs that they're doing. and you listen to them and it's great. and these young ones , well, and these young ones, well, they're going to grow up with they're going to grow up with the expectation that anything is open to them, which is good. >> of course. you look at kamala harris, right. and the comments that jd. vance, the vice president nominee for the republican party, made about her being a child , childless cat being a child, childless cat lady. and it does make you think that even a woman who is at the absolute height of her career across the world, such a powerful woman, she cannot get away from the judgement of being female and just not having had kids. >> yeah, well, i mean, you are
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involved in this group for people of a certain age. that's the u—3a. i know we've got one back in ashfield, actually, and i've got many friends who who go to this organisation and it's been a been a lifeline for them. it is superb, >> i've just come back from york and they've had their first even and they've had their first ever. what they've called a festival festival 24 and they've got 400,000 members across the uk . and, for the first time, uk. and, for the first time, they've all come together and it's just wonderful. their mantra is learn, laugh and live andifs mantra is learn, laugh and live and it's for people over. shall we say, about 65 who finished full time employment. and there they are. they can do all sorts. they can do fitness, they can do politics, they can do genealogy . politics, they can do genealogy. it's absolutely fantastic. well, you're certainly making me laugh, diana jolly. >> and we i think we're pretty
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goodin >> and we i think we're pretty good in this country are we treat our pensioners. not everybody would agree with that. with the amount of state pension they get, etc. but the clubs, they get, etc. but the clubs, the support they get and great family networks. there's lots of stuff to do for there's plenty out there. what is it? the same in greece? >> i think that's one place where greeks are a bit better, because we have more of a community feeling and we, our families, our families are tighter, closer. yeah. so i up until my grandfather passed away, a couple of years ago, three years ago, i used to go back home every summer and stay with him at his village for a few weeks, and i cannot. i don't have a lot of british friends who would find it to be a good time to go and spend, you know, three weeks in a tiny village on a greek island with an elderly man. >> okay, chances are that your relatives are in australia or somewhere else around the world. uk people we are around so much. >> rightly or wrongly, we have a quarter in this country and i've noficed quarter in this country and i've noticed a difference over the past 30, 40 years. diana, where back in the day grandma or
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granddad used to live in the parlour or the back room. yes they did. yeah. and you'd go in three times a day, do a bit of food and switch the tv very close by. >> but you had to visit them. >> but you had to visit them. >> but you had to visit them. >> but now we, we put them in care homes and is that, is it that sort of culture in greece you really have. >> yeah. care homes are very rare, i would great difficulty you like. i don't know many people who put someone in a care home. >> do you know, i work a lot with the care homes and i'm just talking generally now. they can be fabulous places. yeah, really , be fabulous places. yeah, really, really superb, obviously they've got warmth and they've got food and. but then they've always got all the social side. they have friends. >> yeah. you can make friends. yeah. because you no longer have. so my, my grandfather in his village, he would have other people who were his friends. but you can't have that for example, in london. so i think it's great to be, you know, out in the fresh air, have a great social life in a care home. >> say that to me again. >> say that to me again. >> you can have a great social life. you. i'm looking forward to it already, it's just bought
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me a place here. >> and there's romance in the in the care. >> oh, i like that. >> oh, i like that. >> oh, i like that. >> oh, lots to look forward to i can't wait, i can't wait to get in. >> look, we're going to do the. yes. no quiz now. gosh, you've not done this before, have you? no, no, stella has not done it, so it's dead simple. ask you five questions and all you've got to say is yes or no. >> that's difficult. yeah. >> that's difficult. yeah. >> you just got to say yes or no. and then at the end, you can come back on one of the answers and give your reasons for giving that answer. so we're going to go with you first. diana, will trump when the us election. >> no , stella. no >> no, stella. no >> no, stella. no >> is it time for the british police force to get tough ? police force to get tough? >> yes . stella. >> yes. stella. >> yes. stella. >> yes. stella. >> yes . yep. >> yes. yep. >> yes. yep. >> all right. stella, this one for you. will labour solve the migrant crisis? >> yes. diana >> yes. diana
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>> no . >> no. >> no. >> right. diana, will reform uk win the next general election ? win the next general election? >> yes . oh, dear. >> yes. oh, dear. >> stella. no wow. this is, >> stella. no wow. this is, >> right. this one's for you. stella. will starmer at last. the full term? >> yes , yes. >> yes, yes. »- >> yes, yes. >> i do not believe it. five each novices . first time ever each novices. first time ever doing the. yes. norquist. we've got people like stephen pan comes on who's absolutely useless at this amateur. he's been on like 20 times and never gets five out of five. so if you're watching stephen quickly come back on one. >> stella, i want to come back on the police. they need to be tough, but they need to be tough with themselves as well. they need to reform they've done a really bad job. the public don't trust them. >> okay, diana, you want to come back on one? >> i'll come back on reform. yeah i would love to think that they're going to do go even
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stronger and get even better. yeah, i realise that the numbers are down, but just get out there and go at it. it's a record five out of five for stella and diana. >> thanks for joining diana. >> thanks forjoining us on the >> thanks for joining us on the yes or no quiz. after the break. we're going on pool with celebrity chef jameson.
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judith raanan . last orders at judith raanan. last orders at the bar with a tv celebrity chef he the bar with a tv celebrity chef. he was a bit of a god back in the day . on the box, doing in the day. on the box, doing cooking and all sorts of stuff. cook for some really famous people. but what got you into cooking , jameson? cooking, jameson? >> well, i actually left home at 13, and i actually came down to london because up north you couldn't really find hostels and stuff too well. but i actually lived actually on the streets. so shopfronts, gardens, benches. and then almost as i got to kind of 15.5, 16 years old, obviously
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i could get a job. so i managed to get a job with mark white. >> how did that happen? i mean, on the streets in a sleeping bag? yeah. went to work for a top restaurant. >> well, actually went to the waterstones in piccadilly and i actually just looked at the top restaurants in the uk. yeah. went to the landmark, went to john burton—race, went to ramsay's, went to a lot of places, got rejected, rejected , places, got rejected, rejected, rejected, rejected. went to the oak room in piccadilly. got a job doing what, i went straight into the kitchen. i went straight into like preparing vegetables. i went straight in. i mean, it was pretty hardcore pot washing. no, no, straight into the kitchen . into the kitchen. >> they must have seen some potential then. >> i think i was just kind of driven. i was pretty driven. i mean, i lived on the streets for a long time, so, you know, i'd. yeah. you know, i had that in me to once obviously make money and when did you big break come. i obviously had to wait for a month until i got money. right. okay. and there's quite a well—known chef now in america called brendan collins who saw me sleeping rough. and he
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actually helped me. and wow, he actually helped me. and wow, he actually lent me some money, which was an angel. yeah. it was. yeah. i mean, i haven't seen him for a long time, but he's pretty well known in america now. wow >> fast forward a few years. you become a top celebrity chef, obviously earning a few quid. and in the building today, you've got a couple of good looking lads there, one's got a similar hairstyle to you, but you've been a single parent. you are a single parent. yes i was a single parent for many, many years, so i could sort of see where you're coming from. it's a great thing, isn't it? >> it's amazing, i love it, i mean, i've had both boys full custody since my eldest was two and my youngest was one. yeah, they have no interaction with they have no interaction with the mum whatsoever. they've never met any of my family because obviously i left home and yeah, it's the most rewarding thing in the world. i love it and you've done a bit of writing as well. >> got a cookbook out? >> got a cookbook out? >> yeah, cookbooks coming out. i originally was working on a previous cookbook, but because i'm doing more stuff in america now, they actually wanted me to try and fire a quick one out before that one. so i'm going to
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try and do back to back books. >> back in the day, people would make not better meals, i would say, but wholesome meals, much cheapen say, but wholesome meals, much cheaper. yeah, they'd shop around for the ingredients because they had to. you couldn't get a ready meal, you couldn't get a ready meal, you couldn't go to a takeaway. you think we sort of lost? you know, we've lost a lot of learning, aren't we? on that? i think, i think these delivery services have kind of killed the wholesome home cooking now because you just ring them up, use an app at their house within ten, 15 minutes. >> yeah, but we de—skilling. >> yeah, but we de—skilling. >> i bet you're teaching your kids how to cook, aren't you? >> well, they actually do a school as well. i think it's quite important to be part of the curriculum that they learn to cook, because what we found out when i was helping out at the food bank, we was giving people food parcels and the fresh veg, the fruit, and they were throwing it away and keeping the tin stuff, the boxed off the ready meals. >> but actually if they had the know how they could make better meals with the fresh veg . meals with the fresh veg. >> totally agree with you. >> totally agree with you. >> yeah, we did try a bit of an
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initiative with the food bank where when people came for the food bowl. so we said to them, look, yeah, you can have the food parcel, but you must register on this cooking course and we're going to teach you how to budget as well. so yes, go to the supermarket and buy these ingredients, bring the ingredients, bring the ingredients back and then we'll show you how to batch cook and make meals. i think it's super important. but i got absolutely slaughtered in that place over there in parliament for suggesting it because we made they call me £0.30 league. we made 174 meals for £50. and this is three years ago. yeah. and it worked out at £0.30 a portion. it was batch cooking on an industrial scale. yeah, but the point i was trying to prove is that if you get the right ingredients and you know what you're doing with a bit of help, you're doing with a bit of help, you can actually much better and much cheaper. >> i found that because i work with a lot of homeless charities, that when people are on the streets, all they tend to know is to how open a sandwich. yeah. and he basically. yeah. rubbish food. so when the government and people actually helped them get into an abode or a hostel or some sort of
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accommodation, they have no clue on how to cook. >> wow, you'd make a good teacher at school wouldn't you, for teaching kids how to cook? >> i love teaching people. i love showing people because that's my passion. but you know, i'm not even i trained at the high end michelin starred level. i appreciate home cooking and nutritional food, especially for children. >> so you've got five minutes to cook a really delicious, scrumptious meal on a budget. what would it be? >> fish pie? yeah, fish pie one because my children love fish pie and it's nutritional. yeah. and it's filling and it's just full of goodness. >> sounds good. i've got you've got my tastebuds salivating, full of goodness. >> we've got a lady in the building sat over there. >> there's a few fish pies in her time. diana, do you want to come over, please, darling. i would love this way. jameson because fish pies are my favourite. >> any of my friends watching will tell you that. well, as long as we've got nice fresh vegetables of course. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so back in the day , you just
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>> so back in the day, you just you just. you'd have witnessed your family, maybe your mother or grandma. i would assume making wholesome, delicious meals on a budget rather than this ramble that we're putting out now. like jameson said earlier, you can just pick your phone up. you've got an app and get some rubbish delivered to your door, which is actually no for good you, no good at all. >> i was brought up in the country. i'm a somerset girl. really, somerset born and bred. and of course, it was wartime as well. so you couldn't go to the shop and buy rubbish like they can do these days. so it had to be what was available. we grew vegetables in the garden and fruits and things. of course, as well, and it was basic food. there was no choice. you fussy little girl. no way. jose and i sat there. my father would make me sit there till i'd finished everything on the plate. >> i'm the same with the boys. >> i'm the same with the boys. >> i'm the same with the boys. >> i love everything nowadays. >> i love everything nowadays. >> yeah, well, they go to bed hungry . hungry. >> oh, there you go. there you go. >> sounds, sounds a bit cruel
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that they're sending hungry children to bed. >> well, the eater, because the appreciated. >> exactly. they have to. >> exactly. they have to. >> if i said that, i'd be in trouble. right on the pull, you've got 30s to pull a pint, jameson. it's that tap there. how about you promise before, aren't you? because you've worked here a long time ago. >> go on then. that's how we go. >> go on then. that's how we go. >> and then, diana, aka the green goddess is going to judge. this is an expert. look at this. >> i'm not an expert. >> i'm not an expert. >> you are an expert. >> you are an expert. >> i haven't done this in years. you've been practising. >> you've had more experience than i've had. >> i'll tell you. >> i'll tell you. >> i'll tell you. >> i don't drink. >> i don't drink. >> so you don't. i don't know, i don't know what you're missing. >> there we go. >> there we go. >> if you plonk that on the bar, jameson, that looks perfect. i have to say, to pull a pint as well. yeah. >> okay, here we go. >> okay, here we go. >> and you've done this before, aren't you? >> only once. with you in another pub? >> yes, yes. »- >> yes, yes. >> that's it. wrist action is correct. you've got the right tilt, what's your favourite meal? apart from fish pie, >> well, the drink is champagne. is it champagne girl here? >> no. >> no. >> anything fishy ? i'm a fishy >> anything fishy? i'm a fishy girl. >> what fish would you put in that? anything
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>> salmon. any white meat? yeah, some is quite reasonably. as long as it's sustainable. yeah. no it's not. i do like the. >> i like the sea bass. so do i. >> i like the sea bass. so do i. >> i love sea bass. i do, i only like wild fish, really. >> i try not to go near far. >> i try not to go near far. >> what sort of fish would you put in a fish pie? jameson >> well, i like to salmon. i like to use wild fish. yeah. sea bass. whitefish. colt i mean, anything, anything flaky. >> and it's an important thing you said there, james, about the wild fish. because i was to talking somebody just a few days ago about farmed salmon and the diseases and the conditions that they live in. it's not good a lot di they follow infection. horrible nasty stuff. >> bacterial. it's terrible. i mean, i wouldn't go anywhere nearit mean, i wouldn't go anywhere near it personally. so i'm a believer that you're sort of tastes change over the years from being a child up until my 30s i would never really eat fish. >> but now i love mussels. yeah now i'm in london with the jetset. i had some baked oysters last week. very nice. baked in like a garlic butter. oh, i love
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oysters, and all that sort of seafood. i'm sort of getting into it now. i think my tastes change. >> i think it's like anything. i think you have a cycle in life. every 7 or 8 years, your taste buds change, your friends change. you know, you move, you move on. so it's. >> and it's very nutritious. >> and it's very nutritious. >> fish is very nutritious. and it doesn't put on the weight. >> no, but i never get the calamari. >> i never understand that because it just takes out calamari. >> last night. >> last night. >> yeah i did yeah i like that as well. >> anyway, i want to mark your points. i'm going to say to jameson, i've got to give him ten out of ten diner because it was a cracking point. diner slightly less, why? i don't know, i don't know. i have to give you nine, maybe nine and a half. >> so isn't that ten? >> so isn't that ten? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so, no, there's only one winner. there's only one winner, >> but doesn't she look fabulous? eight. >> amazing. >> amazing. >> and i've got to say, jameson, your boys are a credit to you. thank you. and, any advice out there for. for men? because it's a struggle for men sometimes. and all of a sudden become a
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single parent. >> it's a lot harder for men than it is for single mums. yeah. >> why do you say that? >> why do you say that? >> i think the support wise, i think if you're a single mum and you give your career up and you bnng you give your career up and you bring up your children, you're seen as a you know, a strong person, etc, but who's been abandoned. yeah, there'd been a, you know, the dads get a bad rap in all cases. yeah. but in my case, i find that, there wasn't a lot of support. really? yeah >> you've done a cracking job, aren't you? >> i just did my best. >> i just did my best. >> and i bet your kids are very proud of you. >> i hope so, diana. >> i hope so, diana. >> it's great to have you back on my friend. >> oh, i love being with you again. >> absolute pleasure and good luck with everything you do, man. >> thank you. good to meet you. oh, even better as well. oh, there you go. can i come back again? yes, you definitely come back again. >> that's great. thanks. thanks guys. thanks for joining >> that's great. thanks. thanks guys. thanks forjoining me again on lee anderson's real world. been another cracking show with some great cracking guests. but coming up next, we've got friday night live with the legendary mark dolan mark dolan. what's occurring?
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>> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. signs of some hotter weather early next week, but still tomorrow morning a fresh start with some sunshine and there will be more heavy showers developing through the day in places . but the showers we've places. but the showers we've seen today, they're tending to fade away. so for most it's going to be a dry evening. a dry night with lengthy clear spells. we'll keep some showers going near the southwest of scotland and it could turn a bit heavier that rain as we head towards dawn. time as we head towards
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dawn, temperatures will dip down to single figures in some rural spots. towns and cities 10 to 12. so a little bit fresher than recent mornings, but generally a fine and sunny start. a drier day tomorrow compared to today across scotland. still, a few showers in the far north—west, but i suspect quite a bit of sunshine across central and northern scotland. a wet start though in this zone the far south of scotland, northwest england some heavy bursts of rain, particularly across the lakes. early doors not great on parts of the m6 here, a few scattered showers for wales, but most of england and wales also starting dry , fine and sunny. starting dry, fine and sunny. there will be a few showers for northern ireland, but again here. likely to be a drier day tomorrow compared to today, so not as many showers around. we will see more showers developing through the day over wales, northern england, parts of the midlands could catch a rumble of thunder, flash of lightning to not too many showers for east anglia in the southeast. most places here dry and as i mentioned, a drier day for much of scotland. slightly warmer to edinburgh, up to 21. in the sunshine across the southeast 24, maybe 25, but probably
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feeling cooler across northern england and wales with more cloud and more showers. but the showers disappear overnight and sunday looks like a cracking day. can't completely rule out a shower over the northern isles, where there'll be a bit more of a breeze. but generally light winds, plenty of blue sky, a fine summer's day on sunday and it's going to get a bit warmer and signs of things also hotting up a little bit, particularly across the south into the early part of next week. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb
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>> good evening. from the world headquarters of gb news. this is friday night live with mark dolan. the weekend starts here, so bring your own drinks. the admission is free on tonight's show, the tory leadership
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contest is hotting up. but does anyone actually care? will labour's great british energy be a bigger flop than a liz truss mini—budget? does being a parent make you a better politician? will kamala harris make donald trump look like yesterday's man as they do battle for the white house. to do battle over those topics are my friday a team brilliant dj and broadcaster liz kershaw, political commentator and star of the show down at the institute of economic affairs , institute of economic affairs, reem ibrahim and legendary bbc broadcaster and tv host alex dyke. but first, why labour have already run out of money? why john lewis are going to fix the housing crisis, and why a top
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superstar is about to ruin the olympics. that's my friday feeling. monologue after the news headlines with sam francis . news headlines with sam francis. >> mark, thank you very much and good evening to you. it's just coming up to 8:02. and the top story tonight . well, crowds are story tonight. well, crowds are lining the river senne as paris officially opens the 2024 olympics. and it's the first time the opening ceremony isn't taking place inside a stadium. around 10,000 athletes are sailing down the water, taking in the louvre, notre dame and the eiffel tower. the event's also seen performances from the likes of lady gaga, and it's even rumoured celine dion could be part of the glittering conclusion to tonight's celebrations . meanwhile, people celebrations. meanwhile, people travelling to the french capital for the games are facing massive disruption after vandals targeted the rail network. today, more than 100 workers have been dispatched to repair high speed lines around the caphal high speed lines around the capital. some routes will return
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to normal tomorrow, but 1 in 4 eurostar services have been cancelled and will be out of action over the weekend . here, action over the weekend. here, an alternative healer has been convicted of manslaughter after a 71 year old woman died following one of his slapping therapy workshops. hongkai zhao, who has no medical qualifications, preached the benefits of hitting yourself to rid your body of toxins . rid your body of toxins. danielle carr—gomm has been following his instructions and stopped taking her diabetes medication at a wiltshire retreat in 2016. the mayor of greater manchester is appealing for rigorous and swift investigations into criminal accusations of assault by police at the city's airport. a video shared widely online shows an officer kicking and stamping on the head of a man. the police watchdog says it is now looking into the incident to determine whether his use of force was acceptable. drivers are being
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taken for a ride when filling up at the pump. that's according to the aa, which is calling on the government to take action. it comes after the competition and markets authority issued a report that found fuel prices were significantly above historic levels, but independent fuel retailers say their critics aren't taking into account costs of wages and electricity . in of wages and electricity. in australia, doctors are working to reattach a surfer's leg after he was attacked by a shark. kyle mackenzie, who's 23, was surfing near port macquarie about 250 miles from sydney, when he was bitten by a three metre long great white shark . he managed, great white shark. he managed, though, to catch a wave to shore where an off duty police officer helped him to stem the bleeding and in an extraordinary twist, his severed leg later washed ashore and was put on ice by quick thinking locals. meanwhile, in the us , the first meanwhile, in the us, the first tv advert for kamala harris's presidential bid has hit the screens. take a listen. >> we choose freedom, freedom ,
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>> we choose freedom, freedom, freedom i can't move freedom. >> cut me loose. say freedom . >> cut me loose. say freedom. freedom! where are you? >> well , featuring that >> well, featuring that soundtrack there by beyonce, who has given her blessing to the vice president, the ad touches on gun violence, healthcare and abortion while casting donald trump as a convicted criminal. and it comes as a new poll by the new york times tonight puts mr harris level now with mr trump a stark turnaround from the previous poll, which had joe biden trailing by six points. and finally , in a crushing blow and finally, in a crushing blow for mark dolan, the price of a bar of dairy milk is up by as much as 12% since last month as the cost of making chocolate continues to rise, the owners of cadbury's say cocoa and sugar have become more expensive, along with energy , packaging and along with energy, packaging and transport. the firm says it's facing considerable challenges, especially following poor cocoa harvests. those are the latest headlines. for now, i'm sam francis, i'm off to raid mark dolan's chocolate supply and i'll be back with you at 9:00
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for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> sam, you can have my pick and mix anytime you like. now there's a surprise. having said that, they won't put up taxes. our new labour government is going to checks , notes, put up going to checks, notes, put up taxes. according to today's papers. the chancellor, rachel reeves, has found a £19 billion black hole in the public finances. i can't believe that reeves didn't see this coming. after all, we're being told every ten minutes that she used to work for the bank of england has the person who is now in charge of the country's finances lost the art of counting? did it not raise any flags before the election? that in may alone of this year we borrowed an extra
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18 billion just to keep the lights on. did it escape the new chancellor's attention that we borrowed half a trillion pounds and put the economy on hold for two and a half years in a disastrous attempt to stop a virus, measures supported by labour only on their watch. we would have had more, not less . would have had more, not less. only now the chancellor discovers that the country is a bit skint. what else hasn't she noficed bit skint. what else hasn't she noticed that posh spice is a bit thin, that that's not elton john's real hair, that the pope is a big fan of catholicism, that keir starmer's dad used to be a toolmaker. i know what a revelation this idea of an unexpected black hole doesn't wash with the respected and politically neutral paul johnson , politically neutral paul johnson, the director of the institute of fiscal studies, who said labour's claim that this is a surprise is not credible. well, of course it's not. this is spin
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and political cover for what will be an autumn tax raid, including potentially corporation tax, inheritance tax and council tax . labour's and council tax. labour's promise not to raise vat , income promise not to raise vat, income tax and national insurance is an empty promise if they're going to tax other things. it's like a burglar saying don't worry , i'm burglar saying don't worry, i'm not going to steal your car, but i will break into your house and take your jewellery. your laptop and your collection of nigel farage memorabilia. what labour needs to do is to stand up to the unions and show wage restraint. they need to boost productivity in the workforce and they need to reform welfare instead , they're just going to instead, they're just going to squeeze more blood out of an empty stone, which will make britain, over time, a less attractive place to work, invest and live. in the end, wealth creators who pay for our public services will up sticks and take
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their money, their businesses and their investment elsewhere, which will no doubt come as another surprise to our new chancellor . meanwhile, another surprise to our new chancellor. meanwhile, chaos in france on the eve of the olympics as vandalism to its rail infrastructure has seen disruption to thousands of trains, including eurostar, the french rail system has ground to a halt with delays and cancellations, with many suspecting it's a dirty tricks campaign by none other than vladimir putin, whose athletes were banned from the event. maybe that would explain for the rail chaos that we've seen in this country for the last few years. forget about mick lynch and his striking rmt. perhaps it's vladimir putin that's been running british rail all along . running british rail all along. meanwhile, john lewis have won a planning application to build 353 flats in south london as part of their plans to become one of the country's biggest housing developers. that's right,
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john lewis, of all people, folk are already queuing up to buy flats in what has been nicknamed the waitrose tower. in what's expected to become the most middle class block of flats in the world. the building will be organic , made with pasture organic, made with pasture raised bricks and painted with free range paint paint that was to free roam on a sunny pasture. the roof will be made of recycled couscous and flats will come with a supply of hot and cold water and another tap just for prosecco . presumably these for prosecco. presumably these properties will never be knowingly undersold. ooh, there you go . i'm here all week. okay, you go. i'm here all week. okay, folks, let's get reaction to all of the big stories of the day in the company of liz kershaw , reem the company of liz kershaw, reem ibrahim and alex dyke. liz let me start with you. first of all, this black hole that labour are complaining about. i'm not having it. this is a smokescreen. they were planning tax rises all along. >> well i read several commentators in newspapers
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before the election. the surprise result saying what'll happenis surprise result saying what'll happen is labour will get in. then they'll pretend that they didn't realise how badly, how bad we were financially in this country, and that will be their excuse to say, oh yeah, we promised not to raise taxes, but we weren't fully in the picture then and it's just playing out exactly to that script, isn't it? i'm so cynical about this and bitter, 19 billion is not actually a lot in the big scheme of things. when we all couple of trillion correct . and i think 19 trillion correct. and i think 19 billion might be a week if the national health service or something. it's not it's a little splash, but she's going to use it to take people's life savings off them. >> of course, labour could argue they've inherited this mess from they've inherited this mess from the tories dream and they'd be right. >> i mean, you know, currently the public sector finances are at the fourth highest in terms of public sector borrowing since records began. so effectively, what we're seeing is huge amounts of public sector public
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spending. effectively. what we need to say as a country is that we cannot afford the size of the state at the moment, and labour knew that before they got into power, they knew that was the fact as as has been already said, we know that that was the fact. but ultimately we're thinking about this from a wider perspective. i think we need to have a national conversation about the fact that we cannot afford current levels of public spending. you know, we spend four times the amount of the ministry of defence budget on pensions alone. we've got an ageing population. >> i get mine on tuesday. >> i get mine on tuesday. >> we've got i mean, look, i mean a quarter of pensioners are millionaires. and what this is , millionaires. and what this is, is one of them's i'm sure she is effectively what that means bbc pension. >> you're welcome. i don't get a bbc. i get my state pension on tuesday, which i've paid in since 19 two, since 1970 is tuesday that the first day that you're able to . i'm 66. on you're able to. i'm 66. on tuesday i get my congratulations. >> very good. well, this is the point , >> very good. well, this is the point, right? >> very good. well, this is the point , right? effectively very, point, right? effectively very, very wealthy people very, very, very wealthy people very, very, very , very successful people very, very successful people then end up paying out onto what
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is effectively a benefit. and i think what's what's unfortunate about the fact of the matter is that that's a benefit, because pensions are because pensions, you contribute benefits. >> you do not contribute . you do. >> we all pay national insurance. we're paying currently the highest tax burden since the second world war. >> that's insurance isn't even ringfenced. so national insurance does not. pensions aren't ringfenced either. >> unfortunately, the moment pensions are being paid for by current working people or by hard working because it's a ponzi scheme, it's never been ring fenced, so it's never been saved and put aside. >> so whatever i put in, in 1978 has gone long ago, paying the pensions of people in 1979. >> exactly. and that's why pensions i think we need to do away with. but also sorry, just to answer your initial question about the fact that public sector spending is huge. we're currently about to go over 100% of gdp. and i think when we're thinking about this from a wider perspective, labour knew this was going to happen after the after the election. we knew exactly what was going to happen in terms of our public spending, and we need to ensure that we're
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able to cut taxes. but b, we have to first cut spending. yeah. >> all right. so briefly, are you suggesting a great pensioner betrayal as a way of fixing the nation's finances? no, i wouldn't call it a betrayal. >> i would say i would say the government have initially lied to pensioners. i mean, let's be honest, the state pension is not a lot, is it? right? the state pension is a pittance in comparison to what they could have had exactly. >> if you if you are living on the state pension and that's your only income and you've worked hard, say, say you're a bloke who's now having to struggle till he's 67, 68 to retire and you're in a physical job all your life, you know, driving a big truck or hoarding bncks driving a big truck or hoarding bricks around or something. and, and you said, and that's you never got an occupational pension and you didn't get enough, residual income at the end of the month to stash it away and invest. that is your lifeline in retirement. yeah. alex dyke, hello . alex dyke, hello. >> britain's broke. can labour fix it financially ? fix it financially? >> oh. who knows? we all knew that this was this was going to happen after the election. i mean they they've been getting ready for this for years. and
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years and years. and i don't like it that no matter who's in government, inheritance tax comes in or money. we've already paid that. yeah, that that to me is i don't know why britain puts up with that and says, okay, we'll do that much higher than in germany for example. yes. and things like labour now wanting to, put vat on school fees now , to, put vat on school fees now, i would guess that a third of the people who've got their kids in private school are not rich. they're not even wealthy. they have gone without holidays or new cars and nights out and decent food to put their kids into the private system because they're not a fan of the other system. so if labour do this, a lot of those children will then go to state schools, which will then overburden the state system. we do need to have a big conversation. reims. right? i never agree with reem, but i do about this a big conversation about this a big conversation about tax because we just lay
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down and take it. >> it's all the politics of envy, isn't it? and it's soft targets. they know they're not going to get the majority of the population will not, you know, kick off because somebody has to pay kick off because somebody has to pay extra inheritance tax or school fees, except except that labour are arguing that take the money from wealthy parents in the private sector and put it into state schools and help kids at state schools. >> we already spend huge amounts of money on the public sector, and we spend huge amounts of money on public sector education. i think alex is absolutely right. as soon as we start increasing the price of private education, how much is it going to cost for all of those children that can no longer afford private to education now flood the state sector? >> people who pay for private health insurance and private education should actually actually get tax relief on it . actually get tax relief on it. exactly the other way around. if you forget liz truss, liz kershaw, you put your kids in. if you put your kids into a private school and alleviate the burden on the state and pay those fees out of your taxed income, and you pay health insurance so that you're not
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you're not taking that nhs resources, okay, you should be able to claim it on tax, just like you can for a company car. >> well, my thanks to the face of bupa , liz kershaw and lots of bupa, liz kershaw and lots more to come as they do battle to replace rishi sunak. does anyone care who's going to be the next tory leader ? and will the next tory leader? and will labour's great british energy be a bigger flop than woolworths? we'll debate that
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next. okay, folks. welcome back. as they do, battle to replace rishi sunak. does anyone care who's going to be the next tory leader, alex dyke? >> well, the tories to. >> well, the tories to. >> obviously the public don't feel involved in this conversation, do they? >> not yet they don't. but they will do give labour six months
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and i think they're going to be really interested. but we're not going to know who the new tory labouris going to know who the new tory labour is until what, the 2nd of november. yeah. they want a nice long i don't know why , but look long i don't know why, but look what they've done to, replace biden . they went like that. why biden. they went like that. why is it going to take to us november? >> how do you feel about being stuck with rishi sunak for another few months? >> i it doesn't really bother me. it doesn't really bother me. not really. >> what do you think? so i think what's interesting about this. so again biden was was dropped as presidential candidate for the republican for the democrats . the republican for the democrats. but he's still president. so he's still president of the united states. in the uk. the way our leadership election works is it depends on the party. now, i think it's a really good thing that the conservative party are drawing out a very, very long campaign because it means we can really sit and have a conversation about what the right means, what the future of the right should look like, and indeed where all of these competing factions should stand. i mean, ultimately, the conservative party have lost their conservativeness in my opinion, they presided over the highest
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tax burdens in sycamore gap. >> surely they should know that now by regulation. >> but this is an experiment in communism for two and a half years with covid lockdowns. absolutely. i mean, the fact of the matter is the conservative party have lost their care for liberty. they've they've lost their care for freedom. and now is the time that we can have a conversation and see who stands for freedom. >> okay? i mean, liz, the elephant in the room is nigel farage and reform uk's 4 million voters. so in choosing their next leader, the tories have to think about the farage factor. well nigel farage is just harvested all the hopes and dreams of people who voted conservative in 2019 and people who voted for boris johnson as leader and therefore ultimately prime minister. >> i joined the conservative party when theresa may was pm because i saw that she wasn't going to last and i thought if i pay going to last and i thought if i pay £25, i get the chance to vote, right? i let it last and get her out and or at least at least no, but no, no, not get her out , but least no, but no, no, not get her out, but get boris johnson
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in.theni her out, but get boris johnson in. then i was betrayed, as were millions of others, when he was stabbed in the back by rishi sunak and co and several other members of the conservative and then. well, he. no he did go a walk and i was disgusted. but he's still a great orator. >> orator and, and he would have done better in on july the 4th. >> he would have done. and anyway i'm going to rejoin that. >> let's finish. and then we'll come back to you. >> i'm going to read you. i'm going to pay me £25 again. it's probably gone up. everything has. and i'm going to become a member again simply to be able to vote in november because it's the only democratic way of having your say. >> all right. i think it's really, really absurd. >> i mean, i completely agree with i think it's nice to join parties to be able to vote, but i completely disagree that effectively, a leader is good because they, they, they were able to get a majority in parliament. what good did boris johnson do? you can sit here and say boris johnson would have won the conservative party a majority on the 4th of july. what does it matter if they effectively increase, incredible amounts of taxes, increase the regulatory burden, implement net zero so effectively means that
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we're going to be poorer and miliband on acid is doing that. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> but the point is, i don't care about who the politician is. i care about what they actually do. and effectively what we're saying is, oh , it what we're saying is, oh, it doesn't matter if they do because they're a good orator. they're a good speaker. >> no, no, no. >> do you want an example of something that boris johnson did that was really good. he fought lockdowns. i really believe he did. and also for them, excuse me, he fought lockdowns. and while we were enduring false imprisonment, in our own isolation , boris kept the mood isolation, boris kept the mood of the country a hell of a lot higher than it would have been if . if. >> imagine he even threw parties at home and he was responsible for freedom day, which sir keir starmer, now our prime minister, said was reckless. >> but alex dyke , if the tories >> but alex dyke, if the tories have got to become conservative again, who is that leader who is the true conservative in the people currently throwing their hat in the ring? you know, potentially robert jenrick, we know well he threw his hat in on thursday didn't he. mel stride
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potentially as well. tom tugendhat there's a list of about seven at the moment that could be runners and riders. priti patel, kemi badenoch. but the question is which of those is a true conservative? >> well, only time will tell, won't it. but i, i don't think it should take until the i disagree with him. i think it's taking to november is a bit silly when you think what the americans have done, it's now if the tories don't know who they want to be now , then they really want to be now, then they really should be having a look at themselves. they should have known all along. >> they need to have those conversations, right. the fact of the matter is the conservative party have lost their way entirely. there needs to be a wider conversation about what it means to be conservative. >> but here's the question liz kershaw, does anyone care, yes. >> it's very important, but i think a lot of the people who could have been a good leader nationally and on the international stage have left the park . the park. >> who do you fancy? if the likes of tugendhat, badenoch, james cleverly, priti patel, who
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do you fancy if you had to choose now? >> suella suella. well, especially, i mean, the woman is named after a star of the dallas tv series. oh, no. is that true, by the way? yeah parents like dallas, the coldest sue ellen when she came to this country, it was changed to suella. >> and is suella braverman not? is she? is she also a sort of lush alcoholic as well? then? hopefully not. because, remember, suella had a drink problem. >> you mean me up? >> you mean me up? >> well, let's not make it personal. who's your choice? from the few i've mentioned, i'm not going to say who my choice is because i don't know yet. >> i want to hear what they have to say. and i want a politician that cares about individual liberty free markets. >> is there is there a tory on the green benches in those opposition benches who fits that bill? >> well, we'll wait and see. there are a couple that are giving me politicians answers. >> well, you've got very evasive. is it is it suella? she's a true conservative, isn't she? >>i she? >> i don't think so. i mean, she's very pro protectionism. she's she's actually very pro government subsidies generally i would like to see is somebody thatis would like to see is somebody that is pro—business, genuinely
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pro—business and understands the ideas of free market. >> does such a tory exist anymore? >> they do. i've got an idea. >> they do. i've got an idea. >> what about nigel farage? >> what about nigel farage? >> there you go. >> there you go. >> that's probably. yeah, that's actually probably rhymes. answer okay, listen, folks, moving swiftly on. labour have launched great british energy, a risky venture in which taxpayers money is pumped into flaky renewables. now, i'm all for the green transition, but done intelligently, it's not a great vote of confidence that much of this so—called investment, which is code for more borrowed billions, is going into projects rejected by the private sector. but who needs a business case when it's someone else's money, yours and mine, that's being spaffed away on wind farms? given britain's history of state owned enterprises in the 1970s, with businesses like british rail , with businesses like british rail, british telecom, with businesses like british rail , british telecom, british rail, british telecom, british airways and british leyland all losing millions of pounds a week , losing millions of pounds a week, this launch is hardly a cause for celebration. ed miliband, for celebration. ed miliband, for example, is no great entrepreneur. he's more del boy
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trotter than alan sugar. this time next year i doubt that we taxpayers will be millionaires . taxpayers will be millionaires. reem ibrahim great british energy. the future for britain. >> terrible idea. no, it's not the future for britain and the point is, as you said in your monologue, the point is that effectively the government don't have to create a business plan for a project that they are funding with our hard earned taxpayer money. i actually think that effectively, governments that effectively, governments that subsidise green and subsidise green energy end up failing entirely. the solution to climate change, and indeed the solution to cheaper energy, is increasing supply. the way we do that is through technological advancements, through the free market. what we need is a great greater capacity for the market. while i would argue for is deregulation of the nuclear energy sector, why is the government got a monopoly on nuclear energy? let companies invest and let us actually increase the supply side. economics 101 you increase the supply, prices come down. we can have cheaper energy that is renewable and actually saves the environment, but at the same time doesn't make taxpayers
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poorer. >> liz kershaw green energy is the future and labour are going to get us ahead of the curve in that market. bills will come down, we will be energy independent if we've got solar panels and wind farms, that's what labour are going to achieve. >> yeah, but it's decades ahead and meanwhile let's get fracking. let's keep the oil fields open in the north. >> please control your language. it is a family show. also, can i just tell you i'm very happily married and your advances are not unrecognised. it's important to be professional, liz. what is that about a good fracking? >> i'll say. i'll say let's get pumping instead. then i prefer to drill, baby, drill. let's open up the oil fields. i've never thought . and this was never thought. and this was a major thing under thatcher, wasn't it. and what's going to happen to sid and his gas sheds? of course, things like water, the stuff of life as they recognise in ireland. water, electricity , heating the home electricity, heating the home and cooking your food and having
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water to bathe in and drink and everything else. they're not things that should be searching for a profit . so i things that should be searching for a profit. so i kind of agree with renationalising our utilities. the only trouble is that anything that's nationalised is public sector workers who think they have jobs for life and are very inefficient. and that's where it all goes wrong . there's got to all goes wrong. there's got to be some kind of carrot. there's got to be some kind of motivator, otherwise it all just descends to the lowest common denominator in theory or in theory, these these things should not be, profit making. >> okay, i completely disagree. i mean, the profit motive. >> and i do appreciate the argument. i think that liz is right in saying that these goods are very important, essential pubuc are very important, essential public resources . public resources. >> why is someone making a profit? >> why is profit a bad thing? >> why is profit a bad thing? >> the profit motive is effectively wrong. >> we shouldn't be. >> we shouldn't be. >> you shouldn't be making a profit from someone having a glass of water so that they don't die of dehydration. >> this is entirely wrong. this entire perspective that
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capitalism or profit making businesses are somehow evil. the profit motive, effectively a business. when they want to make a profit, they want to make customers happy and through through the market, through competition. effectively. what that means is no competition. >> there is no competition. if you live in where i live, you can have anglian water , you can have anglian water, you can't have southern water. can have anglian water, you >> and why is that? >> and why is that? >> why is that the government, the government created a water monopoly and sold it to the private sector and allowed the regulatory regime to allow them to have those kind of monopolistic practices, the solution to all of these problems, because there can only be so many pipes in the ground. >> no, there are monopolies in a lot of the utilities, and it's just a sham that there isn't. >> the government created these monopolies in the first. >> well, let's have one huge monopoly. >> but isn't the point about great great british energy that we will own our own energy resources, that the government will own it, not you. >> oh, we are the government, the government are us. >> i tell you, that is the biggest lie that politicians will tell you. mark, that is not true at all. the point of the matter is our taxpayer money is
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being completely wasted by the government, and they are wasting it on cheap green energy . it on cheap green energy. >> okay, alex. still here? what do you think? >> still here? i mean, there are two women. >> alex, >> alex, >> i don't stand a chance. laboun >> labour are gambling, aren't they? yes, on renewables. but if they? yes, on renewables. but if the gamble pays off, then ed miliband, rachel reeves and keir starmer will become total heroes in ten years time. >> well, look, it looks great on a portfolio mark. this looks. this all looks good. i like the creating jobs and all of that. but the ladies are right. you shouldn't profit. or as liz said you shouldn't profit over someone having a glass of water or maybe heating their home on a cold december morning, things like that. you should not. and i'm all for capitalists, but things like that. no. and as you say, look at british leyland, look at british rail. >> did it work sainsbury's, asda, tesco. >> would you nationalise food because it's a necessity. this is absurd. this is an absurd argument you're effectively arguing against. well, i'll tell
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you what of business. >> i'll tell you market individualism. >> food is food is the one thing in this country that is the government recognises is essential to life and doesn't tax. and i'm not talking about by the private sector. i'm talking about cabbage fruit and veg and meat. >> all right. well, listen, we're to off get liz kershaw a tesco meal deal. so stick with us because next up is donald trump's running mate. jd vance writes that parents make better politicians. and is kamala harris going to make donald trump look like yesterday's man in the presidential race? we'll debate of that
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next. donald trump's running mate, jd vance, has called presidential hopeful kamala harris a childless cat lady. does being a parent make you a better politician? have you got kids,
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liz kershaw? >> two boys. okay. >> two boys. okay. >> yeah. does you does it give you a certain empathy to be a parent and therefore a better leader? >> i think it changes you. you know , you when i was young and know, you when i was young and enthusiastic and naive. and i'm not being patronising. you're being. i am not being patronising. it's not until you are a parent that you realise the responsibility and you start to have to think about, the future and where is this country going and what's it going to be like for him when he leaves university, and is there going to be i care about the future, don't you? 1990 don't care about the future. no, you don't child care about the future. >> childless cat ladies are only really concerned about their retirement , aren't they? in a retirement, aren't they? in a comfortable existence? they're not thinking about the next generation. >> i think she's got all the setbacks, shortcomings, apart from lack of, you know , kids from lack of, you know, kids know. when i sat there in 1990 and said to myself, will there be free university education by the time he's 18?
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be free university education by the time he's18? yeah, i don't think so. so i started saving up, will there be this will there be that what's this country going to be doing when we can't go around the world clubbing people over the head, stealing the natural resources, you know, and making money that way ? what are we going to do? way? what are we going to do? what are our natural skills? what are our natural skills? what have we got? i started to think about it for the first time in my life and plan for things. >> i think that's and that's what a politician with kids intrinsically wants to do as well. >> yeah, but i would not criticise somebody for not having i thought it was awful when theresa may was attacked. yeah. >> by andrea leadsom. >> by andrea leadsom. >> yeah. written off by andrea leadsom. my mp. for being childless. it might be the woman's choice. it might not be, but it was a huge mistake by andrea leadsom because then she was out. >> the contest wasn't she, alex dyke, do you think that parents make better politicians? >> i do, because i think it broadens your horizon. and when you have children, you learn. so much very, very quickly and i do. and you need the patience of
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a saint if you're a parent. so i think it makes you a better person, as i think having pets at for home your children makes your children kinder. that's why we've one of the reasons we've always had dogs, because they get to understand and become patient with the animal. but as far as being a parent and a politician is concerned, of course i think being a parent makes you a better person in many in most cases. yeah. >> rishi sunak talked about the fact that he cared about the environment because his children were always his two daughters were always his two daughters were telling him about, you know, net zero and about the environment and about, oh, well, they've been brainwashed maybe at school. but he said, you know, i'm listening to my girls and i know i've got to do something to save the planet. >> absolutely. and my children, like liz's children, grown up now, i'm assuming yours have grown up , liz. and, now, i'm assuming yours have grown up, liz. and, and now, i'm assuming yours have grown up , liz. and, and they grown up, liz. and, and they start. they start giving you advice, and some of it you take on and you think, yeah, this is really, really. >> they're still breastfeeding,
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yeah. yeah. >> well, you raise a good point , james, >> reem, you are shaking your head. you don't look happy. >> i want my politicians to have conviction. i want my politicians to have principles . politicians to have principles. i want them to believe in something. and i completely agree with with the other two. i think that becoming a parent, of course, it gives you a huge sense of responsibility. but the nofion sense of responsibility. but the notion that i, as a 20 something year old, don't understand the real world, that i couldn't possibly care about the future you don't understand is entirely patronising and untrue. and can i just add the current situation we are in in terms of our economic system, we effectively spend huge amounts of money on the older generation because we've got we've got no we've got an ageing population and young people cannot afford housing because older people , the nimbys because older people, the nimbys block housing development. so we can't sit here and say that young people have no idea what they're talking about. we are facing an economic reality, but we're not talking about young people. >> we're talking about childless adults going into politics. >> yeah, so do you think i mean, there is a flip side to this
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reem, which is do politicians who don't have kids have more time and more energy? >> yes, they probably do have more energy. and i definitely got more energy, actually . they got more energy, actually. they can actually concentrate on the job. well, look , i think, job. well, look, i think, i think that there's a balance here that many people that do have children, of course, they end up having a greater sense of responsibility. >> and i and i think that having a family, the nuclear family is a family, the nuclear family is a brilliant thing. we should propagate. >> last word about female politicians. i've been saying this. it's in my book that i wrote ten years ago called the maid. it's called the bird and the beeb. okay. and they made a great title. they made a big mistake, tony blair with his babes. i was, i was asked, would would i be interested in being an mp? that was like 25 years ago. i said, no, because i've got small children. you i couldn't give the time. i'd have to do it. i said, come back to me. when the grown up left the nest, the set up, and i will have all the time in the world and all that experience that i've gained. but you know what? ageism, so what they said they want women, but they want young
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totty. so what they should do is very much the policy of this show. >> i'm not saying it's a deal breaker for me . breaker for me. >> is that wrong? okay, folks, moving swiftly on in the us, everyone seems to be getting behind a woman called kamala harris with us establishment media trying to cast her as the second coming, ignoring her disastrous three and a half year record in office, supporting the confused and hopeless joe biden, the good and the great of the democratic party and high profile media commentators have come out in support of a candidate who effectively lied to the american people about the cognitive health of her boss, joe biden. participating in what in my view, was a fraud on the american public, covering up for a confused old man who wasn't running the country and was never fit for the job. in my view, even in 2020, the establishment are getting behind a woman who's confusing self—help messages are enough to make you want to slash your
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wrists, and who is even more woke than joe biden? take listen. >> i am kamala harris. my pronouns are she and her. i am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit. i can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been, you know, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been. >> now, this woman has been unburdened by any common sense whatsoever. she has said that people entering america illegally are not criminals. she wants americans to eat less meat to save the planet. she supported the ruinous policy of money printing, which has seen americans clobbered with high inflation and as the person responsible for border security, has presided over 8 million
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people entering america illegally since 2020. she might tick a few boxes , but her record tick a few boxes, but her record speaks for itself, and she's about to be found out when exposed to scrutiny and when facing the irascible donald trump in their first tv debate. in fact, she's such a disastrous nomination, it wouldn't surprise me if even donald trump will be the latest person to endorse her as the candidate. kamala harris is famous for her cackling, but i suspect donald trump will have the last laugh . reem ibrahim the last laugh. reem ibrahim your reaction to the damascene conversion of the us media to this woman ? this woman? >> it's incredible. and what's really interesting is cnn came out and said that they were not supporting biden, that actually biden probably needed to step down. he stepped down within the week after cnn came out against him. i think what's really interesting about kamala harris is her definition of freedom. her ad video was, i think, quite well put together. she spoke about the word freedom, but effectively did not mean freedom. what she meant is
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higher taxes. what she meant is increased government spending. and you mentioned it in your monologue, this idea that actually she supported the increasing of the money supply. so effectively money printing, which meant that that your dollar was worth less. the same thing has happened over in the uk. this is effectively an increase in the money supply, which means that you see huge amounts of inflation. their economics, i think, is for the birds. and anybody that seriously thinks that either of those politicians would actually serve the american economy well, i think is entirely misled. >> however, alex dyke , will >> however, alex dyke, will donald trump look like yesterday's man compared to this younger female candidate? >> i think so she's the first female vice president ever. she is the highest ranking female official on american government ever. official on american government ever . she's what, 59 years old? ever. she's what, 59 years old? i think she's got a touch of the oprahs about her. when you look at i think she's very good on camera and that's very important these days, particularly, in america. i think she's going to
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have him on the run, i really do. i hear everything you say, and when you put all those soundees and when you put all those soundbites together, it's easy to laugh at her. but she's trying to get she's working a catchphrase. she's trying to get that into the american psyche. >> i've forgotten what it was. >> i've forgotten what it was. >> liz . she's got >> i've forgotten what it was. >> liz. she's got momentum, hasn't she? kamala harris ? hasn't she? kamala harris? >> well, the labour far left. well, are they endorsing? >> i mean, it depends whether you believe the mainstream us media, doesn't it? but there seems to be a certain energy around her energy because she's so much, you know, younger and more energy. >> the brain works correctly . >> the brain works correctly. >> the brain works correctly. >> but the thing is that the american people are being played . american people are being played. this is the equivalent of a royal family we're told in america, it's a meritocracy. you know, it's democracy. since 1980, every single election on the election bill has had either a biden himself as vice president and president himself, a bush, a clinton, every single
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one you can go through. i did the other day and it's this is another, imposition from the approved family. so when i saw barack obama endorser today, that really just finished me off with her, because it's just like a big club of powerful people who present themselves as the ultimate democracy, the ultimate meritocracy . and it's nothing. meritocracy. and it's nothing. >> i completely agree . one >> i completely agree. one puppet replaced by another. next up is jeremy clarkson, the donald trump of the countryside. and am i the only in britain who hates the olympics?
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next. as local ramblers rage about his beehives is jeremy clarkson. the donald trump of the countryside? alex dyke ? alex dyke? >> well, maybe he is, but this is quite serious, really,
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because he could put an electric fence up, couldn't he? but he's put some beehives out to keep away nosy fans. and he's got that dilemma where he's very, very well known, very, very wealthy. but everybody knows where he lives. and he says, you know, come to down my farm and it works well for him when he's doing clarkson's farm on netflix and he wants customers for his new shop. so he puts a tweet out an 8 million people get that tweet, and then he blocks the roads. but it must it must get on his nerves with people keep trampling over his ground. so i haven't got a problem with the bees. >> yeah. i mean, what do you think? has clarkson been good for the countryside? rhiannon. >> well, look, there are definitely better ways to keep people out of your of your back garden. i think bees are a slightly obscure way to do that. however, i think jeremy clarkson is absolutely right. and he took to x to talk about this and actually said that ultimately, you know, who would become a father if all we did was care about what local people want? effectively, people are going to be complaining. there are going
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to be local people that complain about everything. people complain, nimbys complain about housing development. this is it. local people complain about bees.i local people complain about bees. i mean, who would be? who would be an entrepreneur? who'd be a business owner? who would be a business owner? who would be an infrastructure developer if all we did was carry about what local people? >> well, that's why clarkson's farm on amazon prime is so good, because it demonstrates how hard it is to be a farmer in 2020. >> it's done more for farming in this country and farmers, and creating awareness in the public of what goes into food and where it comes from, what it costs to produce. and he's also done a lot about awareness of insects and flying insects, because he pointed out a couple of years ago that you don't drive through the countryside anymore and have to wash down your windscreen when you get home, because there are fewer bugs. so he's helping, you know, to rear bees and butterflies. he's pointed out the other day, is seriously worried this year about how few butterflies there are around. so he's a real ecologist and he puts his money where his mouth is, and i think he does. amen >> amen to that, listen very briefly, alex dyke, you're quite excited about john lewis saving the housing market. they're going to have a development of
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300 flats. it's going to be called the waitrose tower. can john lewis save the housing market? >> i think they probably can. and i like the idea that their interior design team have gone into all these properties and furnished it with all the stock. they can't sell , because they've they can't sell, because they've got all of these huge warehouses , got all of these huge warehouses, and you go in and the whole thing's done and it's like, it's like wetherspoons. i don't drink in a wetherspoons pub, but i appreciate all of the wonderful buildings around britain that they have saved. that would have been empty if they hadn't gone in. >> what a brilliant point. >> what a brilliant point. >> private sector, however, and i agree with alex that it's wonderful that these private businesses are wanting to encourage more housing development. however, john lewis have also asked for government to help with this and i think that's disgraceful really. they've effectively said they want local authority money in order for them to build them. now, i think that's a bit of a ponzi scheme. i don't want my taxpayer money being spent on a john lewis apartment. >> okay, well, listen, we've got a build baby build before we go. am i the only one that hates the olympics? >> i'm nonplussed about it. really not. >> it leaves me cold. i think it's because i was a very slow
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runner at school with those legs. i was always being lapped. really. i mean, that lapped is when someone overtakes you. >> i was good at chucking stuff. >> i was good at chucking stuff. >> oh, the shot put, shot put, javelin. >> empty bottles of wine. >> empty bottles of wine. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not for me. >> i'm for me. and i shouldn't say it's like watching paint dry. okay, but good luck to everyone who's enjoying. >> i'll change my tune when gb news gets the broadcasting rights to the olympics. >> but look, this is it. i think. i think that if you can watch it on the channel you like, then i would definitely be more inclined to watch it. i am also very, very pro britain. i think, again, i don't necessarily care about football, but i love watching the euros because i care about england. i'm very, very pro gb but i can't say i will watch it. i agree with you there. >> i don't like the olympics but i do love team gb. so here's to a hatful of medals this year. ben leo, the gold winning broadcaster, is up at nine. ben, what have you got for us? >> mark before i start how are you a slow runner with those big, strapping, lanky legs? i don't believe it. big show coming up, including i have the bombshell proof that labour have
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been totally dishonest about this £20 billion black hole. they knew it was there. and i'll tell you why. they've been lying about it. tune in three minutes time. >> ben cannot wait for that, listen, my last show with producer mark crellin, who is talented, charming and hilarious. mark, go and smash it in your next gig and i'll see you soon. mark dolan tonight returns tomorrow at nine. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. signs of some hotter weather early next week, but still tomorrow morning a fresh start with some sunshine and there will be more heavy showers developing through the day in places, but the showers we've seen today they're tending to fade away. so for most it's going to be a dry evening. a dry night with lengthy, clear spells. so we'll keep some showers going near the southwest of scotland and it could turn a bit heavier that rain as we head
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towards dawn time. as we head towards dawn time. as we head towards dawn time. as we head towards dawn temperatures will dip down to single figures in some rural spots, towns and cities 10 to 12. so a little bit fresher than recent mornings, but generally a fine and sunny start. a drier day tomorrow compared to today across scotland. still a few showers in the far north—west, but i suspect quite a bit of sunshine across central and northern scotland. a wet start though in this zone the far south of scotland, north—west england some heavy bursts of rain, particularly across the lakes . particularly across the lakes. early doors not great on parts of the m6 here. a few scattered showers for wales, but most of england and wales also starting dry, fine and sunny. there will be a few showers for northern ireland, but again here likely to be a drier day tomorrow compared to today, so not as many showers around. we will see more showers developing through the day over wales, northern england parts of the midlands could catch a rumble of thunder, flash of lightning to not too many showers for east anglia in the southeast. most places here dry and as i mentioned, a drier day for much of scotland. slightly warmer to edinburgh, up to 21. in the sunshine across
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the south—east 24, maybe 25, but probably feeling cooler across northern england and wales with more cloud and more showers. but the showers disappear overnight and sunday looks like a cracking day. can't completely rule out a shower over the northern isles, where there will be a bit more of a breeze. but generally light winds, plenty of blue sky, a fine summer's day on sunday and it's going to get a bit warmer and signs of things also hotting up a little bit, particularly across the south into the early part of next week . part of next week. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb
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>> very good evening to you . >> very good evening to you. it's just after 11:00. the top stories from the newsroom tonight. the 2024 olympic games have officially opened. despite
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a downpour during the first ever outdoor opening ceremony in the event's history, 300,000 spectators cheered athletes sailing along the river senne , sailing along the river senne, with flagbearers tom daley and helen glover, leading team gb in one of 85 boats. the event also saw performances from the likes of lady gaga and even celine dion, making her first on stage appearance since revealing her illness. the world famous singer led a glittering conclusion to the celebrations from the eiffel tower . here, the chief the celebrations from the eiffel tower. here, the chief constable of greater manchester police has responded to video footage of an officer seen kicking and stamping on a man at the city's airport, saying the incident is airport, saying the incident is a source of profound regret. stephen watson insists the force is committed to supporting a criminal investigation into the officer's behaviour, and it comes after the mayor of greater manchester appealed for a rigorous and a swift investigation into allegations of assault. the police watchdog is now looking into the
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incident, and they say they will determine whether his use of force was acceptable . an force was acceptable. an alternative healer has been convicted of manslaughter after a 71 year old woman died following one of his slapping therapy workshops . hongshi zhao, therapy workshops. hongshi zhao, who has no medical qualifications , preached the qualifications, preached the benefits of hitting yourself to rid your body of toxins. daniel carr—gomm had been following his instructions and stopped taking her diabetes medication during a retreat in 2016. a rapist who threw a boy off a cliff to try to cover up his crimes has been sentenced today to life in prison. anthony stokes raped and sexually assaulted a girl multiple times between 2019 and 2022, when she confided in a boy . 2022, when she confided in a boy. stocks then threw him off a cliff miraculously , the boy cliff miraculously, the boy survived but continues to suffer ongoing health issues. the perpetrator was convicted of a number of crimes, and will now spend at least 19 years in jail . spend at least 19 years in jail. in the us, donald trump has

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