the pitch. the political commentator paula london is a former show jumper. she'll encouraged plenty of horsing around here tonight . the around here tonight. the broadcaster alex armstrong never tires of telling us that he's a tournament winning tennis star. the fact he was a tournament for 15 year olds gets less of a mention, and making his two a view on the show, of course, is the superb comedian and podcasterjames barr the superb comedian and podcaster james barr. the superb comedian and podcasterjames barr . well, podcaster james barr. well, look, are you such a workout warrior? will probably be seeing him at the next olympics now folks , you know the drill. by folks, you know the drill. by now, each host outlines their argument about a chosen topic. then we all pile in and the fur starts to fly. and of course we want to know your views as well. much more important than ours. send your views and post your comments by visiting gb news. dot com forward slash yoursay and don't forget to ask your questions and ask the five. no topics are off limits . questions and ask the five. no topics are off limits. but before we start tearing each other apart, it's a saturday

night news with the super athletic sam francis . athletic sam francis. >> darren, thank you very much and good evening to you. it's just after 6:00. the top story tonight. thousands of people have gathered in central london for a rally led by tommy robinson. they've been marching through the city with chants of we want our country back. and posting on social media ahead of the event today, mr robinson claimed it would be the biggest patriotic rally the uk has ever seen. around 1000 police officers are currently on the streets to keep the peace, while officers are using powers under the public order act to keep opposing groups apart, with a number of other demonstrators also being held in the capital. protests by stand up to racism and jeremy corbyn's peace and justice project are being supported by the trade union congress. stop the war coalition and unite against fascism. police have been forced to remove a number of people from

the tommy robinson rally in the last few hours, turning to the olympics and cyclist anna henderson has won silver for team gb on the first official day of the paris games, she was competing in the women's individual time trial and finished behind australia's grace brown and earlier divers yasmin harper and scarlett mew. jensen got great britain to off the off the mark with bronze in the off the mark with bronze in the synchronised three metre springboard event, and they made history , claiming the first gb history, claiming the first gb women's diving medal in 64 years. china took gold and the us claimed silver , and the prime us claimed silver, and the prime minister has congratulated those two divers for their efforts. after claiming team gb's first medal at the games so far. sir keir starmer is currently in paris, where he's also been speaking to other british athletes, wishing them luck as they prepare for their respective events. last night he was attending the opening ceremony and posted a video on social media telling those competing that the whole country is behind them. meanwhile, though, eurostar passengers are

still facing travel disruptions after a series of attacks on the french rail network ahead of the games. 1 in 4 trains aren't running this weekend , with the running this weekend, with the operator saying four have already been cancelled today and travellers are being told to postpone their journeys if at all possible. well, in other news today, we've learned that the number of migrants who've illegally crossed the english channel this year has now passed 16,000 people. around 350 were intercepted today, 80 of them rescued from a sinking inflatable. a french border vessel had been escorting the overcrowded boat into uk waters when it began rapidly deflating. the new labour government is vowing to smash the smuggling gangs and is setting up a border security command to tackle the crisis . the chief constable of crisis. the chief constable of greater manchester police says video footage of an officer seemingly kicking and stamping on a man at the city's airport is, he says, a source of profound regret. stephen watson insists the force is committed to supporting a criminal

investigation into the officer's behaviour. and it comes after the mayor of greater manchester appealed for a rigorous and a swift investigation into allegations of assault. the police watchdog say they are now looking into that incident to determine whether the officer's use of force was acceptable in the us. the fbi has u—turned over claims that donald trump may not have been hit by a bullet during a rally in pennsylvania. it comes after the fbi director , christopher wray, fbi director, christopher wray, had told lawmakers the former president's injury could have been caused by glass, but that's been caused by glass, but that's been denied by former white house doctor ronny jackson, who described the comment as wrong and inappropriate. the fbi has now issued a statement confirming trump was indeed struck by a bullet, whether whole or fragmented, into smaller pieces and staying in the us. meanwhile, the israeli prime minister has visited donald trump at his florida resort. just a warning. the following footage we're about to show does contain some flashing images. benjamin netanyahu

rearranged his travel schedule to meet the republican nominee, a day after meeting president joe biden and his vice president, kamala harris. trump had recently criticised netanyahu for israeli security failures around the october the 7th attacks. it's thought, though, the meeting could ease tensions between the two men and that visit comes as an israeli airstrike has hit a school in central gaza. the military says it was targeting a hamas command centre inside the compound which was being used, they say, to launch attacks against troops. israel defence forces added that civilians were warned ahead of the strike, but gaza's hamas run health ministry says at least 30 palestinians were killed and more than 100 people injured. and back here at home, asda workers are set to stage a fresh strike in their dispute over hours and pay. the gmb union says more than 170 of its members will walk out at the lowestoft store on the 9th of august. the last strike they held was back in may, but gmb

say senior management seem to be burying their heads in the sand as to tho has rejected those claims and is reassuring customers that the store will remain open as normal. customers that the store will remain open as normal . those are remain open as normal. those are the latest headlines for now i'm sam francis. your next update from me at 7:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm darren grimes and i can promise that you're in for a very lively show. now, before we begin, there is something i would like to say. following last week's edition of the show on the program last week, one of our commentators stated in very strong terms that he considered suella braverman to be a racist, and in doing so in our view,

crossed a line between robust debate and causing unnecessary offence. now gb news is and always will be the home of free speech. but free speech, as our editorial charter makes clear, does not mean causing unjustifiable offence. and in this case, we feel a line was crossed for which we apologise to mrs. braverman, who was understandably upset by the comments made about her. now let's kick off with our first debate. well, we're going we're throwing you at the deep end here, james. you're first. >> it's okay. i like it deep. so god. >> we started early on that calm things down. >> i think the naysayers need to get in the sane , because get in the sane, because actually, the paris olympics was actually, the paris olympics was a spectacle. it was a massively beautiful event which took over the city of paris. the opening ceremony, and i loved it. i

think the people moaning about it saying stop the boats just sounded like a bunch of rishi sunak drones. and actually it was wonderful. even the sky was crying at the beauty that paris gave us. and if we're honest, it showcased france's love for protest, controversy and inclusivity . so i loved it. what inclusivity. so i loved it. what do you think, paula, >> well , actually, i hated it, >> well, actually, i hated it, and i think it was quite christianophobia in some parts. christian phobic. christian. well christian phobic. yeah. i think you can use both words. yeah they were mocking, the mill that christians have. i saw lots of men's private parts. transvestites. i thought that was very, very wrong, considering the billions of people that watch that, many of which are children . and i feel which are children. and i feel like for so long, for some reason , a nuclear fan family are reason, a nuclear fan family are frowned upon and mocked. but it's all about transsexuals , it's all about transsexuals, transvestites, people showing their private parts. and i actually felt a bit ill. it was awful, actually. >> i might tune in now am i? go

back. i'm watching it. it'sjust back. i'm watching it. it's just so unnecessary. so unnecessary. >> so unnecessary. >> it's supposed to be a family show for children. >> it was on after 9 pm. well, a lot of children are going to bed like nine, 10:00, and they would stay up late to watch the olympics. >> you're not supposed to be amazing like the london one was the opening. i think that's that's a really good point. >> and i watched back, i think it was a picture of the video of the athens opening ceremony, where they had this amazing athlete with he was doing using athlete with he was doing using a bow. sorry to with a flame, and fired it into the cauldron to start the games. what? how different is it? this is a sporting event for champions and we've pushed it to become this sort of identity driven politics. i think it just shows the where our where our political discourse was showing how wonderful france is as country. >> and it was showing off the best of paris. and if that happens to be a rogue testicle, then so be it. >> i mean, the best transsexuals at paris have. >> it's not supposed to be about that. >> the olympics, they said. >> the olympics, they said. >> they said the bbc are not that i watched the bbc. i've

been found out. i've just the bbc said, oh, we now go to the equality section. you know, the french constitution goes through and it went through in each of the parts. and they said, we show today all of the vibrancy and brilliant things that cultures that have come to france have done for france. and i thought, pull the other one. paris is unsafe. it is actually terribly now unclean . and i terribly now unclean. and i think that's as a consequence of mass migration to paris. so all this guff about it being good for, you know , diversity, being for, you know, diversity, being good for the city itself, it clearly isn't. and emmanuel macron, i think, knows that deep down. and that's why the national rally did so very well in the elections. and the second thing i would say is, james, do you can you seriously look me in the eye right now and tell me that they would have drag queens mocking islam in the same way that they mocked christianity?

>> i think that it's i think if you are a christian, then you are able to mock that religion. so i don't think it's a it's an argument that this was the image of the last supper that they, they, displayed on our screens . they, displayed on our screens. and, and that is, barbara bush a very infamous. >> well, she doesn't look very butch. >> aj in france , who is >> aj in france, who is internationally famous and iconic. >> but i go back to that question. would they feel comfortable mocking islam? i think if they were muslim and they were mocking islam, that's on them. >> they're not christian. how do you know they're not christians? >> well, i can tell by looking at them. >> i honestly think that you're overreacting. listen, it was a brunch, okay? it was a brunch. there were a bunch of guys sat down with jesus, having brunch. it was the last supper. but none of you were actually there. you don't know what that actually looked like. it's a painting. they're not mocking christianity. >> they are recreating a key tenant of the christian story, painting. >> and that painting may have looked a certain way back then, but maybe now, if that was to happen, that would be what it

would look like. >> i just really wish the olympics would get back to what it's all meant to be about, which is meant to be about athletes who have trained their entire lives from children. >> and who do you think those athletes are, not the people that are depicted in those pictures? >> look. look at this. >> look. look at this. >> all different religions, all different sexualities, all different sexualities, all different genders. >> how many trans athletes are competing in the olympics? i don't think there's any, ernie says. >> it was like a gay pride parade. and then mark says, i totally agree with james. for those that actually watched it until the end, it was a fantastic show. i think some of these negative comments come from people who have certain types of views above and beyond the ceremony itself. well, yes, i do have certain views on that. i do have certain views on that. i think that's absolutely. >> can we all agree that celine was amazing? >> absolutely. she was. >> absolutely. she was. >> charlie. what was your view? >> charlie. what was your view? >> well, i just i mean, >> well, ijust i mean, i haven't seen it so it's a bit hard to comment at all really. but i do feel a bit sorry for you because , well, you know, the you because, well, you know, the fires that were on the eurostar trains that stop people getting there in the first place. i mean, someone's got to look into that. the rain, the weather didn't help. they didn't switch

to their plan b, they chose not to. they chose to plough on with the parade down the said. and then i think as they were raising the flag, the olympic flag, they got it the wrong way round or something. it's upside down. so things were going, wrong from start to finish. so i but those are i mean, apart from the train issue, like there's a very small mistakes. >> and if you look at the i mean, it was a fantasy. it was such a huge event. well, over the whole city mark has written in again. >> and mark is not happy because mark says, oh, not the last supper again, have none. have you seen the life of brian? of course the monty python film snowflakes. now mark, i just want to say what i mean by the fact that they would never mock islam in that way. i go back to what grayson perry said in two thousand and seven, british artists, and he said that actually he doesn't mock islam in the same way because he'd be worried he'd get his throat slit. >> well, they've had so many terror attacks in france, way more than they've had here. so i think it's a point worth making 100%. and very importantly, a lot of french people. when i was on twitter scrolling, i was seeing all of these, really. i

found quite sexual pictures of men's private parts when i thought it was supposed to be the olympics opening party, and all french people were saying, we're so sorry, please don't judge us. did it sell france? embarrassed? >> did it sell france? did it show france at its best? no, it was embarrassing. >> the french people that i was seeing on twitter, they were writing. i'm so embarrassed. please don't judge us. i'm a french woman and we hate. >> but that isn't all of france. that's just your algorithm. french people are very embarrassed. you are what you are. >> what about these extra police? was was someone verify? this is right for me. there's extra police being sent in from a foreign country to help police the event. yeah, and so that for me says there's a problem. why, why? why isn't paris able to sufficiently support its own . sufficiently support its own. well, we policing the city dunng well, we policing the city during an event. >> we've simply said. i think lots of other european countries send police as well, because it is such a big international event and i have to say, just on the security, because there wasn't any security issues last night. it's actually you've got to praise the police, i think, for doing a good job. even though they had shut down all of the all of the bridges, i think parisians were getting quite

annoyed that they couldn't actually go about their day to day about two weeks before the event. so a lot of effort went into it, right? it went off. >> you're eating into paula london's time. she's going to hit you in a minute. >> and we didn't even get to talk about celine dion. no. >> well go on, give your gag about celine. >> no no no no no no, we'll move on. >> all right. alain says, darren, you introduced your guest. she has, she has. >> well, i didn't feel sorry you weren't going to lower yourself to a joke. >> i was being stiff. >> i was being stiff. >> well, i wake up stiff most mornings. oh, my god, my neck. paula honestly? honestly, i watch her. >> honest to god. honest to god for your show. >> 15 minutes into the show and you've basically transformed it into soho. >> it's like the olympic ceremony all over again. >> our viewers will be up right up next it's paula london and i think an olympic related story has caught your eye. >> well, yes, i think it's time for dressage to be banned as a sport. and charlotte dujardin has now got a six month ban so she won't be able to compete in the olympics. she's suspended. she could compete afterwards, but i don't think so. and she's

won three gold medals in the past. but what she did was disgusting. i mentioned earlier i've had horses, i've had two ponies and a horse. i've been very fortunate and i love them more than anything. and when i used to compete as a showjumper, if i used to see people whipping their horses because they refused fences after a show, i'd have a go at them. my dad used to tell me off because their parents could get angry with me, but i hate to see animal cruelty. and unbelievably, she was videoed whipping a horse 24 times in one minute. there's never an excuse for that, and i think it should be banned because it's so unnatural. and recently judges have been, rewarding riders when they can get their horses to do even more unnatural moves. and the only way they can do these unnatural moves is by cruelty . because for moves is by cruelty. because for me, i was a showjumper horses likes to jump. they like to race evenin likes to jump. they like to race even in the wild. i also used to ride cross country. my horse loved jumping. she loved cantering, galloping, but try to get a horse to do the natural moves is wrong. so yeah, ban it.

>> can i? can i make a sort of counterpoint to this because because i do agree in general dressage i think is particularly cruel to horses. where do you stand on, on horse racing? because we've seen a lot of protests where people were almost throwing themselves in front of horses. last year, i think it was it's interesting you say that because peta, i've heard them on the show this week actually talking about how they want all sports banned for horses. >> and i think that's wrong raced. and there are laws around racing. so you can't whip your horse repeatedly. they're only allowed to whip so many times, i believe, towards the end of the race. and if a horse doesn't want to come out of the box or whatever it's called at the race, it won't. so horses? i'm not sure. i'm not sure if they love racing, but naturally a horse without a saddle will still be galloping in the fields and they are treated well. i would ban foxhunting though. i think that's barbaric and i'm not a huge lover of foxes, i'm not a huge lover of foxes, i'm not going to lie. but i don't know how a woman or a man can be on horseback and watch a dog rip apart an animal. i think it's disgusting. it's certainly not a

sport. >> what's the difference between horse racing and equestrian? because it's all a sport. so why? how can you have one horse for one sport and not? >> it's different. it's much more taxing on horses to run these races. obviously they're galloping. some of them, they you know there's a very long distance for me showjumping. i was in a ring for two minutes and that was sometimes i used to jump and that was sometimes i used to jump six foot fences, but sometimes they were lower. your horse is not exactly knackered afterwards and they are for racing and some of them have even died racing. yeah, especially if they're jumping, you know, like beecher's brook. oh, that was my last horse , oh, that was my last horse, lady. i was a redhead then, and i didn't have any botox, so that's pre botox and bleach. >> i looked i was your horse 93v- >> i looked i was your horse gay. look at the little rainbow . gay. look at the little rainbow. >> she wasn't. >> she wasn't. >> she was so cute. young lovely gay horse. >> very pretty horse. and who's the one. who's the one who's the one on the ride? >> that was me. >> that was me. >> okay, i'm actually with peta on this. they say that horses don't volunteer for violence and coercion, but i was very shocked when i saw that video. to me, when i saw that video. to me, when i saw that video. to me, when i first saw it, i thought i was watching a strictly rehearsal. it was that

horrendous. yeah yeah, it was just it was a no excuse for it. >> and the lady that was videoing was laughing. and this lady also called her horse a. i'm sorry, a b word. in the past. so i think that's awful. >> but again can i just ask because then we use horses for in the military and we use them for the changing of the guard. and it's all ceremonial. and they stand outside at horse guards parade. is that a similar level of cruelty though? should we be asking these questions about and of course, they you know, there were horses that got they bulked at the barracks, didn't they? and they were running down the streets of london injured. are we using horses too often? i don't think we are. >> well, many years ago we used them as transport cars. so horses are great and i'm sure they looked after so well. >> i contribute to our net zero. net zero by 2050 and cars. well caroline says whipping horses to do things that are unnatural to them is like whipping lines to jump them is like whipping lines to jump through hoops, like the circus used to do. >> dressage should be banned, but then to give an alternative view, an olympian who won . i view, an olympian who won. i know this woman in question did with the whipping, but other olympians have said that actually you can do it in a

cruelty free way, or at least less cruel. certainly less cruel than what she was doing. but. and that actually the horses that do it and do it well really enjoy it. >> i don't believe that for dressage because, well, how do you know we can't ask the horse? >> well, i know because i'm an equestrian and i know a horse if i'm not on its back and it's been put out to the field, it will still gallop, it will still jump will still gallop, it will still jump fences. >> it's not going to start doing weird things with its feet like dressage poses. not at all. >> all right, well, we'll see. i've jumped through a few hoops on this show once or twice. >> have you ridden a horse? >> have you ridden a horse? >> i've ridden, no, i never have. what have you? absolutely terrible. i beg your pardon? i love horses, right. okay. still to come tonight? why is everyone jumping onto the kamala harris bandwagon and should just stop oil activists be released from prison so they can attend family weddings ? pull the other one. weddings? pull the other one. but next. first, we tell the police to deal with more harshly with rioters, for example. now we say they are being much too

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you're with the saturday five live on gb news. thank you very much for your company. oh, and for your emails, actually, because lots of you have been messaging in someone called master of parsnips. says the opening ceremony was a display of total degeneracy. but carol says, come on, darren, the olympic opening ceremony was so much fun. although the over—the—top reaction from the likes of you was even more entertaining. well, carol, i see you're one of my fans now though. and on dressage there was a good point. just made actually, paula, from someone that actually does dressage or

did dressage at least, and she says this is a woman called jane. i did dressage many years ago and never used a crop on the horse. if you treat a horse with tenderness and respect, the horse will do anything you ask of it. same goes for dogs. >> i don't know about the unnatural moves. i mean, the horses are not telepathic. they don't know what you want. exactly. all right. >> it's time, though, for our next debate. who's up next? >> it's me. oh, dear. it's me. and it's slightly more serious. note though, because i think the police now have the toughest job in this country. we're constantly sending them mixed messages as members of the public. if we cast our minds back to harehills, just a few weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago, even we saw the police retreating from rioters en masse , retreating from rioters en masse, and we and the media called them weak soft policing. and then just a couple of weeks later, this manchester airport incident has shown the police to be too forceful. i feel deep, deep sympathy for our police officers. they're constantly

being dragged through the mud on social media. i have been guilty of this as well, by the way, and by the mainstream media. we need to send a clear message to our police officers as to what their remit is, what we find acceptable. personally, i think policing has been far too weak in this country for too long. we've been pandering to minority groups for far too long and actually we need to renew our contract with the police and give them more tougher powers like they have done in europe. >> would you arm the police? >> would you arm the police? >> i think they are armed where necessary. i wouldn't like it to become like america here, where we've got police running around with guns. i think that would be rather threatening. but i do think that there are cases which we used armed police are they are very good. they respond very quickly and they're extremely professional. yeah. >> bob says no one will want to join the police. they'll be leaving in their droves, and i do i do think there's an element of truth to that, because i they can't do right for doing wrong. they become tiktok stars. right? people are live streaming them when they're trying to do their jobs and actually i in the

context of that , that particular context of that, that particular photograph, if it's somewhere like an airport, you do need policing, right? you need policing. >> it needs to be tough as well. the amount of messages i've had from police officers over the last couple of years who are actually sick to death of the job now because they can't do right for right and everything they do is wrong, whether they are trying to appease community groups that well , we've seen the groups that well, we've seen the manchester police have just put out a statement today saying they're going around speaking to community leaders. well, you do it for one group of people. but when we watch the football riots, do we have then community leaders going out to groups of engush leaders going out to groups of english people where they are? we don't have that. that is what people really dislike. they feel like it's two tier policing. so we really do need to get this right. as a country, because we're getting to a point now where whatever side you're on the left, the right or any community, you're all starting to hate the police. and when that breaks down, we get lawlessness. i do think that we have to have some empathy. >> yes, for the police. and how difficult that job is. but none

of us are police people. we haven't worked for the police. i don't think we have any knowledge, really, of how difficult that actually is, and i know it's our job to kind of i know it's ourjob to kind of come on here and say stuff like, you just have and it's a really good argument and a good point, but actually, we don't really know. and in general, i do think the police are doing a really good job. >> yeah. i think, i think that's right. the trouble is, i think half the time the police do have the powers but don't know to how exercise them or where the line is drawn, whether they'll be the ones that are then targeted or are subject to sort of complaints and all kinds of things. but i always think we've got to remember the people on the front line are the people on the front line are the people on the front line are the people on the front line. the decisions about policing, whether it's about, you know, football. contamination, containment or whether it's about what happened at manchester airport. the decisions come sometimes from the very top. or if you're policing a protest, you know, where's the line between, you know, the protests on a saturday afternoon in london, you know, but it always comes from the top. but it's the people on the ground that you've got to feel sorry for, because they are the brunt of or feels the brunt of the abuse. and what we're seeing

all the time. >> i think for a lot of people, it feels like when they're minority groups involved in policing, that there is a big protest that follows it. the police backed down. we saw that with the roma community, the children returned to the families and in this case, we have the police apologising to those people when they have shown perhaps, i mean, we'll wait to wait to see more, perhaps force where necessary. that officer felt that he might needed to have used force to neutralise a threat in an airport, bearing in mind it's most countries in the world, you wouldn't be alive if you'd done what the police in america would have had. you'd be gone right, alex? >> apparently there's new footage that shows actually punches being thrown towards the female officers. i mean, we've got to remember them in this. in this case. >> this is my point, right? and i think what we've done is trial this officer by social media and the police are themselves now guilty of doing the same thing. >> well, i also someone read, sorry, someone wrote on twitter how sometimes some police that are armed are trained to use their feet rather than their hands because they have arms on their legs. >> but do you feel safe in this country?

>> i don't feel safe, but i also have a lot of empathy to policing. it's because of mob rule, mob rule seems to be overtaking the police now. the police are scared of certain demographics of people. when i was younger, there was a policeman. i'd be quite scared and people would respected them. you would never throw loads of eggs at a police station. i've seen that happen in manchester. the police are too scared to even come out to tell them off, let alone arrest them. they should be arrested on sight. they're pandering to a group of people and they need to really get tough soon because it's very scary. police in france are much tougher and in spain we have the weakest police. >> yeah , because there are so >> yeah, because there are so many situations. so, you know, police have been policing twitter, for example, and going after people that make, you know , after people that make, you know, just put out statements on twitter when actually there's and you know, it's just a case in point. it's not sort of relevant to anything, but you know, the rochdale grooming gangs, for example, that was a systemic failure. not just of the police who had the intel to go after those gangs. it was the social services. it was the local authorities, it was the schools, it was the local community. there was a lot of covers up there, which we all

know about political correctness. >> they were worried about accusations of racism . accusations of racism. >> exactly. and that's why i think we've got to embolden the police and give them the confidence. you know, the public are the police and the police are the police and the police are the police and the police are the public as well. we police by consent in this country, but that's to keep us all safe. >> we've got robert peel in the corner and he's gone. >> but but we do. the moment we stop giving our consent to the police, then we do turn into a dictatorship or a state like america, where we have to use force or guns or things like that. we don't want to get like that. >> okay? right. still to come tonight, folks. should it be a case of if you can't do the time, don't do the crime for those just stop oil activists. but next, after years of dismissing her as incompetent and the barely up to the job of vice president, why is everyone now jumping on the kamala harris bandwagon? find out you're with the saturday five live on gb news

welcome back to the saturday five. thank you very much for all of your messages. coming in thick and fast. i can barely keep up. penelope says i've worked out many equestrian yards in my life. i'm now 64, but still. right. don't be so quick to dismiss dressage as cruel. when horse and rider are in harmony, it comes effortlessly from the horse with no cruelty involved. starbreaker 2012 says equality law is meant to protect both genders, and faith will influencers or politicians come out and condemn the provocation intended by the last supper? of course not. >> well, the simpsons did it, and no one got upset about that . and no one got upset about that. >> but i mean, i go back to that fundamental point, though, of what they do the same about islam . will they make that joke? islam. will they make that joke? >> but you weren't having that conversation about the simpsons. >> well, i know i wasn't, because i think you should be

able to mock religion. i am a christian, but i think you fundamentally ought to be able to only mock religion. but there is only one religion that you're not allowed to mock. that's my point. >> but i think you mock the religion that you are representing or that you have grown up with. >> no, if you're telling me that all of those drag queens are strewn across that table for the so—called last supper, are church going christians, i'll eat my own hat live on air. he will think it's important. >> mock christianity. i've got noidea >> mock christianity. i've got no idea why, but some people. >> all right, now it's time for our next debate. and i'm going next. i've just eaten into my own time. look how selfless i am now. when the first mixed race female candidate for president was announced, i was sat in my home in the north east of england. but i heard from my window a very dramatic, high pitched screech all the way from a mansion in montecito, california. now it was described by my colleague camilla tominey and she said that a me by meghan markle had been usurped by kamala harris.

markle had been usurped by kamala harris . the oprah winfrey kamala harris. the oprah winfrey interview, now infamous, of course , it's ancient history and course, it's ancient history and the fawning is for kamala on on us chat shows . here's the us chat shows. here's the actress drew barrymore. >> i've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now, but in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country. our country, we need you to be mamala of the country . yeah, mamala of the country. yeah, i mean . mean. >> i've just been sick . she's >> i've just been sick. she's a politician, not an agony aunt. and meghan markle's text exchange, of course, with beyonce, that was a treat for the cameras. she loved it. but kamala has managed to snag an endorsement from the obamas on a phone call she had, which were also natural, something meghan has been craving for ages. and here's some mumbo jumbo montecito madness that could

have come straight from the mouth of the duchess herself. >> imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. you know, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been , unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been, what can be unburdened by what has been? >> well, i feel burdened after listening to that garbage. and they actually like each other. the duchess and kamala. kamala said , i'm well, meghan markle said, i'm well, meghan markle actually said, i'm excited to listen to this and have this kind of representation. so, you know , she loves it for the know, she loves it for the reason that, well, you can all guess it. the id politics element of it. meghan markle said of harris's career in us politics. well, we're so excited to have your representation and it's this obsession , this it's this obsession, this gobbledegook, this california

chat. america is in folks , for chat. america is in folks, for the most vacuous election known to man. now, james, i'm sure you agreed with every word of that. you must be absolutely over the moon. i do think there's a little unconscious bias. >> oh, here we are coming out of your mouth there. don't call me that, because, it is an interesting comparison for many reasons. i'm sure your viewers can figure that out for themselves. >> well, absolutely . yes, >> well, absolutely. yes, because they're both mixed race. they both go on about it like it's the only thing that we care about when it's not true. people are electing kamala harris as a politician. what can she offer the country? >> i didn't hear anything about her race in her unburdened by what has been. are you kidding me? >> it's absolutely everywhere. >> it's absolutely everywhere. >> honestly, i think that she is amazing and i think mamola will do an amazing job as you think about her, well, that's a great question. yeah. what do you think is isn't great about her? >> not flip it, james. >> not flip it, james. >> don't flip it. because the thing is, she's talking to you

probably like her because she's non—white and she's a female. >> so it's very woke for you. >> so it's very woke for you. >> so it's very woke for you. >> so you're the one obsessed with skin colour. >> like, about her? >> like, about her? >> it's a ridiculous thing to say. let's and people have been fired for worse, i love i don't know, it's a good question. why do i love her? i haven't read her manifesto. i don't know what she's planning, but i know what i don't like about donald trump and what scares me about the rhetoric from donald trump . and rhetoric from donald trump. and when kamala is talking about unity and making sure that health care is sorted for everyone in america, i think those are the priorities that america should be focusing on. but how can you understand anything that, like her speeches don't make sense ? well, you're don't make sense? well, you're you're playing clips from speeches because she's picking platitudes. >> but gets it wrong. >> but gets it wrong. >> became a candidate. and i imagine when you're vice president, you are just wheeled out to say the same speech. no i'm sorry. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> i, i have been in the past quite a fan of the donald, but even even i will admit, there

have been speeches by the donald that doesn't quite stack up or doesn't quite doesn't quite make sense. >> i mean, from time to time. but he is straight from the hip. >> well, that is a great thing, actually. and that is why he's actually. and that is why he's actually got such a following. but but that's the thing we've been going around about this election talking about two old, two old men, and we wrote off joe biden, obviously, for all the obvious reasons and why we assumed and thought that donald trump was clearly going to be the candidate that wins, because we need the donald versus biden. kamala has come in and all of a sudden it does feel like there's a bit of a breath of fresh air about america that people are turning to her campaign as a breath of fresh air. >> when you compare kamala harris to joe biden, the man could barely walk. i mean, it's i mean, it's not a lot of a comparison, really, to say she can walk and actually sometimes make a full sentence appear. >> she can string together a sentence, but it doesn't make sense. >> well, that's the problem, isn't it? and i think when people start to look at what i'm really looking forward to is kamala harris's track record

being analysed. and i've done a little bit of research on what she's done. she has a horrendous track record of civil rights in california. she's actually responsible for thousands of people going straight from school to prison. horrendous. just watch robert f kennedy banged up a lot of black people as well. >> she did. that's exactly what. >> she did. that's exactly what. >> and just for weed. just just for cannabis. just for cannabis, by the way, she kept them in jail, and she's part of the corporate machine that's damaged america so badly over the last 30 years. i'd argue, actually, so, so bad. no, no, he's not. he's absolutely. >> you can't say he's not. >> donald trump is corporate machine not damaged. he is. >> look, they wouldn't be taking him to court using the law to try and take him out, making him poon try and take him out, making him poor, trying to literally people trying to assassinate him if he was part of the machine, he certainly isn't the person that tried to assassinate him. >> and that is awful, by the way. that should happen to nobody, regardless of politics. was a republican, so. well, yeah, but that's highly debated. >> he gave crazy did give him in. >> no, no. but hang on making that we have to be fair because he did give a donation to actblue, which is a which is a massive donation for left wing democrats. yeah, but it's quite

debateable whether he doesn't mean that i'm. >> well, have you donated the conservative party as well? >> would you, would you join? >> would you, would you join? >> the tories are exactly right. >> the tories are exactly right. >> so. so look, i think there's a there's a stark difference donald trump enough money because donald trump shoots from the hip and i love that about him okay. >> just because kamala is a kook show doesn't mean this has to turn into a kook show. >> she's brat. right? still, to come tonight in the big interview. >> well, we're going for only fans, believe it or not. we'll ask if olympic athletes should be using the onlyfans platform as of course, role models to our next generation. but next, do jailed just stop oil activists actually deserve a bit of sympathy? we'll find out after the break. once charlie rowley winters on once more with the saturday five live on gb news

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five as ever. thank you very much for all of your messages about tonight's topics. brian says. can i suggest that each of you ask, each of you ask to go and do a full shift ride out with the police and see exactly what they have to put up with? yeah, i'd love to do that. >> so would i. >> so would i. >> they are actually the police and have become the front line for social care and mental health. as well. yeah, they have to deal with so much stuff, it doesn't bear thinking about. i certainly couldn't do it. >> you know, i'd love to go for a day to find out. >> i bet you would, paula. but that's a conversation. >> the rest of you one right now. >> it's time for our next debate. who's up next? >> well, i think it's me, darren, and i think, you know, just stop oil the organisation that's on everybody's lips most days because of the chaos that they cause across this country. we saw early on in the week that five activists who scaled the gantry on the m25 were jailed for four years, one of those being a young girl called

cressida gethin and not content with that prison sentence, her mother took to social media to give her view of how that sentence went down. we've got a little clip, i think my daughter is cressida gethin. >> at the age of 22, she was the youngest defendant and she has just been sentenced today to four years in prison. this means she will not be present at her brother's wedding next summer. i want to bring her to life . for want to bring her to life. for those of you who were not present in the courtroom , well, present in the courtroom, well, boo hoo. >> i mean , what about the people >> i mean, what about the people you know who couldn't get to their own weddings because of their own weddings because of the traffic chaos that she was confusing causing? what about the people that couldn't get to their hospital appointments because of the chaos and confusion on the roads? what about the people that are going for cancer patients? the special educational needs, special educational needs, special educational needs, special educational needs, kids that were stuck in the traffic? this is someone who has blatantly flouted the law, who goes about their day waking up in the morning and going about trying

to cause chaos and delivering that chaos at all of our expenses. and i think it's absolutely right that she gets every day in jail, that she she deserves the idea that the poor old mum is saying that, you know, proquest is going to miss her brother's wedding. well, you know, think about the weddings that you ruined. you know, whether it was george osborne's wedding, for example, you think that we should put people that do roadworks in jail as well, just out of interest? >> no, of course, because they're also causing those delays, too, but for the greater good, because they are. >> absolutely for the greater good. just just because because because we are doing it for the greater good, as are people that put but but when you when you dig up a road, you have an alternative route. >> you don't just close a section of the motorway always sometimes these can be devastating. there's about 170,000 vehicles involved in this 50 hours worth of traffic, but these are people that need to get to ambulance reports. ambulances could not get through on that day because of the selfish actions. >> what about the selfish actions of people filling potholes? >> well, you would know that that road was closed though, so the ambulance would know to take you might, but not always.

>> what happens if someone accidentally crashes into a railway bridge? should they also be sent to jail? because that bndgeis be sent to jail? because that bridge is now out of action? >> but these are deliberate actions, of course, and they're calculated and they're designed to disrupt people en masse. and this is the problem, isn't it? you know, roadworks are there for, you know, the public good in general so people can get to there. >> but i know i'm being pedantic, obviously. i know i'm being pedantic. i will call that out. but i think it's an interesting point and it needs to be talked about. >> but it's a political grace of good rather than an infrastructural grace of good. and this is the issue with it. right? so you're talking about someone i could think blocking parliament for the next year would be a great idea. for example, get all the politicians out to their communities. people may argue that that's disrupting the way that our country works. and this is the issue. so you're making a political ideological statement about it. but actually the issue here is what they're doing is causing disruption to many people's lives. and i'd argue they're doing more damage to their own cause than good. exactly. >> i think that tiktok is also causing a lot of disruption to people's lives. should we be putting them in jail? i mean, listen, well, i hate the fact

that there's no accountability. >> she's like mother, like daughter. she's so entitled. my poor daughter can't go to her brother's wedding. so what? i'm so happy that she was showered. i remember posting that day feel good post of the day. hashtag just go to jail and like it. >> just go to jail. i think she is, mark said. >> they shall come out and be a better person. >> well, yeah, mark says james. the difference is that the people who do our roadworks actually have a job. >> well, again, i did say i was being pedantic, mark. and you're absolutely right. and big love to all of the road workers out there . shout out to you. there. shout out to you. >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> and someone else points out that pinky, i assume that's you has just admitted when he referred to just stop oil as we. did you hear that? >> i mean, i would joana jarjue listen, i'd have no shame in joining them . joining them. >> i'd definitely join them. >> i'd definitely join them. >> i'd definitely join them. >> i a fox in the henhouse . >> i a fox in the henhouse. >> i a fox in the henhouse. >> i a fox in the henhouse. >> i think someone's got to do something. someone has to do something. someone has to do something about the planet. it's a fine line between about climate change, about the fact that our government were not taking it seriously or doing

enough. >> and i know you're all in law by 2050, which is absolutely the right thing to do. >> it is it is it is absolutely not. >> this is the problem with the with the green issue. when we had the industrial revolution in this country, consumers and businesses voted for it. they voted for it with their money. and we industrialised the world and the country. we're not doing that at the moment. this is when the economy decides and capitalism decides and consumers decide that this is the time to move on, then it will happen. it should be a gradual transition to green. i'm all for energy security . i'm all for to green. i'm all for energy security. i'm all for this country being energy secure. but what this not not zero stuff is doing is making people in this country poor. it's disrupting their daily lives and people just want to get on. we're already struggling enough as it is. >> i'd like to see these just stop oil activists go over to china and protest. >> exactly, exactly. >> exactly, exactly. >> you know what else i'd like to see? go to china. your stupid net zero idea. because we emit 1% of global co2 emissions. and that's what you did to our country. >> no, no, no, that is absolutely not. >> all right. >> all right. >> we're going to a break now.

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sam francis. >> darren, thank you very much and good evening to you. it's just after 7:00 and the top story tonight. well, thousands of people have gathered in central london for a rally led by tommy robinson. they marched through the city with chants of we want our country back. and posting on social media ahead of the event, mr robinson claimed that it would be the biggest patriotic rally the uk has ever seen. around 1000 police officers are currently on the streets to, they say, keep the peace. streets to, they say, keep the peace . meanwhile, officers are peace. meanwhile, officers are using powers under the public order act to keep opposing groups apart, with a number of other demonstrations also being held in the capital today. and police. we understand, were forced to remove a number of people from the tommy robinson rally, including a man holding a palestinian flag, protests by stand up to racism and jeremy corbyn's peace and justice project are being supported by the trade union congress. stop the trade union congress. stop the war coalition and unite against fascism sports news and team gb are already on the medal board tonight, on the opening

day of the competition at the olympics, cyclist anna henderson has bagged silver in the women's individual time trial, but sadly , individual time trial, but sadly, josh starling missed out on the podium in the men's event due to a puncture. kicking off the medal collection. though, divers yasmin harper and scarlett mew jensen secured a bronze and tonight hopes are high for swimmer adam peaty. he's through to the men's100 swimmer adam peaty. he's through to the men's 100 metre to the men's100 metre breaststroke semis later tonight . breaststroke semis later tonight. however, rain has stopped britain's tennis players getting some of their matches underway today. some of their matches underway today . in other news, the number today. in other news, the number of migrants who've illegally crossed the english channel this year has now passed 16,000 people around 350 were intercepted today, with 80 of them being rescued from a sinking inflatable . a french sinking inflatable. a french border vessel had been escorting the overcrowded boat into uk waters when it began rapidly deflating. the new labour government is vowing to smash the smuggling gangs and is setting up a border security command to tackle the crisis . command to tackle the crisis. the chief constable of greater manchester police says video

footage of an officer seemingly kicking and stamping on a man at the city's airport is a source, he says, of profound regret. stephen watson insists the force is committed , supporting is committed, supporting a criminal investigation into the officer's behaviour. and it comes after the mayor of greater manchester has also appealed for a rigorous and a swift investigation into allegations of assault. the police watchdog says it is now looking into the incident , says it is now looking into the incident, and is set to determine whether the officer's use of force was acceptable . use of force was acceptable. turning to the us , fbi has turning to the us, fbi has u—turned over claims that donald trump may have not been hit by a bullet during a rally in pennsylvania. it comes after the fbi director , christopher wray, fbi director, christopher wray, told lawmakers the former president's injury could have been caused by glass, but that's been caused by glass, but that's been denied by former white house doctor ronny jackson, who's described the comments as wrong and inappropriate . the fbi wrong and inappropriate. the fbi has now also issued a statement confirming that mr trump was indeed struck by a bullet. whether that was whole or fragmented into smaller pieces .

fragmented into smaller pieces. meanwhile, the israeli prime minister has been visiting donald trump at his florida resort in just a warning, the following footage does show some flashing photography. benjamin netanyahu rearranged his travel schedule to meet the republican nominee, a day after meeting president joe biden and his vice president, kamala harris. trump had recently criticised the israeli security failures around the october the 7th attack, but it's thought the meeting could end tensions between the two men and that visit comes as an israeli airstrike has hit a school in central gaza, killing 30 people and wounding more than 100 others. the focus we understand, was a girls school in an area packed with displaced families. israel says it was attacking a hamas command centre embedded inside , and claimed embedded inside, and claimed civilians were warned ahead of that strike. however, experts in the us suggesting the bombing didn't stop there and just a

quick breaking line to bring you that. we're hearing this evening at least ten people, mostly children and teenagers, have been killed and dozens left injured after a rocket strike on a children's football pitch. these pictures just into us. take a listen. all those moments there, captured as the rockets fell in the israeli occupied golan heights, israel, are blaming hezbollah for the attack, though that group are denying any involvement. reports also from witnesses tonight describing huge destruction and fire at the scenes of that children's football pitch and video, also showing crowds on the pitch with stretchers appearing to be rushing, people injured into ambulances . experts are warning, ambulances. experts are warning, though, that it's the latest escalation in the exchange of cross—border fire between lebanon and israel. since the start of that israel—hamas war,

beginning in. start of that israel—hamas war, beginning in . october. and beginning in. october. and finally, a common mouth bacteria can melt certain cancers, scientists have discovered. researchers say that they were surprised to find that fusobacterium was found to help those with head and neck cancers viable cancer cells were found to be reduced by up to 99%, and it's now being studied keenly at guy's and saint thomas's and king's college london. those are the latest headlines. for now, we will keep across that latest line coming to us from israel throughout the rest of the night. for now, though, it's back to darren for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> folks, it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm darren grimes, and i

can promise that you're for in another very lively hour before we crack on with tonight's big interview. a lot of you are messaging very concerned about benjamin butterworth. he is actually on a carbon neutral houday actually on a carbon neutral holiday now. right. this is someone who champions net zero like you wouldn't believe. and yeah, he's off on his jollies once more. so we'll roast him about that next week. but don't worry he is coming back now. tonight we're going to speak about the olympic athletes who supplement their earnings by posting photographs occasionally of a provocative nature on a website that's called onlyfans. now, some people have reacted with shock and suggested that potential role models shouldn't be setting such an example . but be setting such an example. but others say that olympic athletes hardly earn a fortune, despite the many hours of training that they actually devote to their craft. so why not earn a bit of cash with a few tame photographs here and there? i assume they're

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am doing an idol worship kind of thing. and then this is how she sort of mentally, copes with it . sort of mentally, copes with it. well, some people have to try to learn how to cope. some people, it's very natural and it's no issue at all. >> yeah. so looking at those, if you try and put yourself in the position of an olympian . now a position of an olympian. now a lot of these olympians, you know, the vast majority of them don't receive these big contracts that the, the most famous ones do. you know, from the sports brands and all the rest of it. but i wonder, do you have sympathy? can you get into the mindset of these olympians, and do you think actually it's and do you think actually it's an all right thing to do, even if you are a potential role model to countless scores of young children from your nation state. >> i support people communicating accurately. what is going on in reality. like when people say, oh, are you a role model in the sense of should you suppress like something that's actually happening for you in order to like give people a false

impression of your life? i think this is kind of not good, i think usually when people are concerned about, like, are they a role model? it's like, oh, are they presenting inaccurate information to young people? are young people going to see this and be misled into some sort of, situation where they're having more harm than they anticipated ? more harm than they anticipated? and in this case, i'd say we should just provide the more education we should be like, hey, here's the sort of income you can expect if you go into onlyfans . this is the impact of onlyfans. this is the impact of stigma on your life, and then let them make an informed decision on themselves by themselves. yeah, all right. >> yeah. well i'm going to open that up then to the rest of the panel that up then to the rest of the panel. alex, do you have any moral quandary with it? >> well, i wanted to actually ask if you think this might be open to manipulation for more nefarious actors. so if we get into this habit of people like olympians who are obviously there to compete in extreme sports, and they have a manager and someone that's maybe behind the scenes pushing them, and they want to make more money. do you think that this could be open to abuse, >> like as in they are doing things they feel uncomfortable

with because like, the manager wants them to correct, in theory, i'm not sure what the manager's incentive would be. is the manager getting money from the manager getting money from the onlyfans to. >> i'm just assuming there may be a sponsor or somebody who's an agent behind the scenes, who's pushing an olympian that may want to drag as much money out of this young person as possible. that could be then forced to go on to a platform, or feel they have to go on to the platform to make more money. >> if like they're doing something they didn't consent to. this does seem like abuse and i agree. like if you have somebody in control of somebody else's life at all, like there are many ways that this could be turned to abuse, and onlyfans could be a way of doing this. i would find this like kind of unlikely, but i'm not saying never. >> neven >> but ultimately, yeah, you're right. i mean, that could happen literally anywhere. like no matter what you're doing . i matter what you're doing. i guess my thoughts on it are that, like, ultimately a lot of the like, i saw a diver is on onlyfans and they're basically wearing no clothes during the olympics anyway. so really, what's the problem with also

being on onlyfans? personally, i don't think there's any shame in onlyfans. i don't think it's always sex work either. do you feel the same, >> yeah , i i'm continually >> yeah, i i'm continually confused. why people seem to have such a strong reaction to sex and sexuality. i get that some people do. it's probably like an evolved disgust reflex or something that serves something useful in our ancestral culture, but it seems just like people having fun, like i don't. you can find, you know, porn of me on the internet. and i don't mind because i like people sort of knowing intimate things can i? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> just briefly, charlie, just ask very quickly because you said it was a lifesaver for you, which is something that a lot of people will, i think you look to as something if they need a sort of lifesaver themselves. but and you had a routine and just very quickly, how many pictures were you posting and why did you stop, >> so during the height, i think i if i remember correctly, i tried to post one photo every eight hours, non—stop , but eight hours, non—stop, but usually they were rotated. i

have a collection of maybe around 3000 photos, that i would post by the end of it. yeah >> and why did you come off in the end? well, you took the decision that in 2017 it wasn't for you anymore. why was that? >> so i started in 2017 and i sort of faded away, mainly because other things are interesting. i primarily do sexual fetish research now, and then i write a blog about sex education with my like, high body count sample size, so that's like just more interesting, i wish i were the kind of person to optimise for money more than i would be a lot fichen money more than i would be a lot richer. but there's nothing wrong with the thing itself, except it is like the one thing i dislike about it most is that it feels dehumanising to the men. right? yeah. and i supported existing. i support people using onlyfans. i think it's net beneficial, but there is a way where, like the weight of the platform is structured causes, me to feel like lack of like a lack of, like i'm just treating the men as, sort of a money funnel, in a way that i don't like what it does to me psychologically, long term. >> that's interesting. >> that's interesting. >> really interesting.

>> really interesting. >> we'll have to leave that there. but thank you very much for giving us your insight. and of course, your company. now we're going to talk about this with the panel. and before i do that, i mentioned something quite explicit during that interview. so if anyone was offended , we of course sincerely offended, we of course sincerely apologise . now, paula would you apologise. now, paula would you do it? >> i would have the way i look is very different to how i am inside. i've actually been celibate for two years, so there's no way that i would show my private parts. and if. >> would you? you're into dressage and all that. would you be? would you think less of an olympian that did that? >> to be honest with you, i believe live and let live. but if i was an olympian, i would make sure i would get brand deals. but instead of having to do onlyfans if i was short of money and you can't do both. so if they've got an agent, they should be trying to get them brand deals because a lot of brands will stay well away from someone that's doing onlyfans. so wouldn't you rather do brand deals? >> but i think of the diving

team in particular, right. and then because they were all pictured together with tom daley posted a picture, tom daley makes good money. you see him on the tube. but modelling for gillette, they don't all have that platform . right? so yes. is that platform. right? so yes. is it wrong of them to seek income elsewhere? >> maybe slightly more people would wouldn't expect of me, but i actually think this is okay. he's actually not this this young man. i don't know his name. i think it's jack. jack laughed. jack laffer is his name, he's not posting anything explicit. he's just posting himself. apparently more dressed up than he is in the olympics. and what really worries me more than anything about all of this, well, first of all, everyone can choose what they want to do with their career. it's completely up to them. i'm a firm believer in that, but what really worries me is why are we not paying our athletes enough money for them to be able to afford to pursue this extremely important thing that they do for to represent our country? i think that's the real travesty here. it's not about whether they're getting deals, it's about whether we're supporting them . and i think supporting them. and i think there's got to be more done to support struggling athletes, particularly people that might, you know, make do something groundbreaking for this country.

there's a reason why we're constantly falling behind in things. it's because we're not investing in great people anymore. we've sort of lost our way of in doing so. and therefore they're having to turn to onlyfans, one of our gb news members says onlyfans is digital prostitution. >> i mean that there is that point, charlie. >> we don't know how far people are going like, people can say, oh, i'm getting 10,000 a month. i'm just showing foot pictures. i'm just showing foot pictures. i doubt that very much. and a lot of people won't want to divulge. >> oh, i don't know. i don't know. >> i've probably got quite lovely feet actually. >> no, i don't think people will make that money just showing their feet. make that money just showing theirfeet. i think make that money just showing their feet. i think people are doing more than their what possesses people to buy pictures of feet is absolutely bizarre. >> we're going to have to leave it there, charlie. but still to come. tonight there are rumours sweeping the internet that jd vance had sex with a couch, and the nation's favourite chocolate bar will be revealed. but next it's about to get personal as alex armstrong goes head to head with james barr on whether a pride event should have hosted a toss a milkshake at farage event. well, it's almost time for the saturday scrap. with the saturday five

>> on mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, the olympic opening ceremony in paris was a profound inqu ceremony in paris was a profound insult to christians around the world. with a drag queen mocking jesus christ and the last suppen jesus christ and the last supper. the war on western values continues apace. and it might take a ten. prince harry has taken self—pity to a new level in his latest tv interview. sorry harry, you're famous. get over it. plus, my punst famous. get over it. plus, my pundits and tomorrow's papers. we're live at nine. >> welcome back to the saturday five. as always, thank you very much for your emails about tonight's topics. new boy james is making some friends. julia says to try and compare just stop oil antics to road repairs is off the scale. pathetic i think he likes to be contrarian for the sake of it. but karen says loving james spot on

tonight, the just stop oil protesters got longer in jail than some violent criminals. yes, which is ridiculous. absolutely. and grumpy grandad says , what's that saying? he's says, what's that saying? he's talking about a different topic. he'll be able to guess which. what's that saying? if you've got it, flaunt it. it's up to them what they want to do with their bodies. personally, you would think they would have more self—respect, but let them crack on with it. yeah. >> give the public what they want. give the public what they want. >> right now. >> right now. >> it's time for tonight's main event. after a gay pride event supposedly made a mockery of reform uk leader nigel farage, chesterfield pride organisers stand up to racism created a milkshake game at their event. now this milkshake game urged punters to toss a milkshake at a cardboard cut—out of the party leader himself, which actually happened when he was campaigning this year. so i'm asking this question did that game go too

far, or was it just a harmless bit of fun? alex armstrong and james barr have seriously differing views on this one. no milkshakes will be involved though. seconds out. it's round one, alex, lead the way. >> well, look , we've just had an >> well, look, we've just had an attempted assassination of a president a matter of weeks ago, and during our own election, we saw nigel farage, of course, pelted with that milkshake famously, as he announced his candidacy and coming back as leader of reform. he was then followed up with someone throwing more things at him on a bus. and not only that, but politicians in this country are constantly hounded. just look at other how other politicians were were treated. jess phillips as a prime example of that. not on the right wing as well. she's on the right wing as well. she's on the left. so we have a double standard, don't we? we have a double standards from the left. they don't mind it when politicians on the ride that they disagree with are pelted, abused, had things thrown at them. but when it comes to their own, they all of a sudden up in arms about it. how could jess phillips be treated like this on her campaign trail? how has it

got so bad? all this political violence? but they're the ones constantly inciting hatred. and what i think is hilarious is that this event is set up by none other than stand up to racism. people who are trying to preach about equality, peace and inclusion for all are the exact proponents of the things that they don't like. when it happens to their own. and for me, the hypocrisy is what stinks. the most. we can trivialise these matters, but the reality is, is that someone, some wacko somewhere, will see this as a way to attack a politician they don't like. and i'm sick of political violence happening not just in our country, but across the west. and the left need to tone it down. >> someone passed me a milkshake. please. i honestly, i think , i think no one wants think, i think no one wants politicians or anyone to suffer violence. i think we all agree on that. no one should be like attacked . nigel farage should attacked. nigel farage should not have things thrown at him . not have things thrown at him. but this is a bit of fun and

it's like saying we shouldn't play it's like saying we shouldn't play grand theft auto because it's encouraging people to be violent and it's not at all that this is a game. next, you'll be banning pin the tail on the donkey because you'll be worried that people will literally go around pinning tales on donkeys. as someone that has suffered domestic violence, which i'm doing in edinburgh, show about this summer, by the way, please come and see me. i can tell you that laughing at the terrible things that happen is a very important way of taking the shame and the violence out of things. so for me, the fact that this was to raise money for charity means it's completely okay. >> but can i just ask you, right, let's let's change the character because this is obviously an attack on nigel farage himself and his politics. if i were to put someone on the lgbt community up there, let's use india willoughby as an example. an activist for trans people. and i started throwing milkshakes and encouraged people en masse for charity to throw milkshakes at willoughby. he's missing there . what's missing missing there. what's missing about it? >> well, there's no context for that. no one's throwing a milkshake at india willoughby. if they had, i'm sure india

willoughby would the would be the first person to monetise that for charity. >> i highly doubt it. i highly doubt it. i think she'd be the first person to call the lawyers. and i think this is the problem, isn't it? if we're to twist the whole message here and turn it on the left and say it's one of your heroes, we're going to say you did talk about nelson. you don't like it. look at the way jk rowling is being treated. it's exactly the same thing here. she's your hero up until the minute you disagree with her. >> listen, i don't think j.k. rowling should be treated like that either. i think we should call it. i think sometimes people on the left and the right go way too far, especially when it comes to throwing things or turning up at their house. like, that's not okay for anyone, but we have to look at where these these conversations start, right? nigel farage has said a lot of incendiary things and he has provoked a response. but so, so have many characters on the left. >> frankly, india willoughby is many things. >> absolutely, and receive a lot of hate. i receive a lot of hate because i'm provoking people on the right. >> okay, now i wonder then james, if i, i believe that diane abbott has said some very

offensive things throughout her long career . should. if i set up long career. should. if i set up a picture cardboard cut—out of diane abbott and start throwing milkshakes at it, encourage people to come along and throw milkshakes at it too. would you be okay with that? >> i just think it would be a bizarre thing to do because she's like, i don't understand the context. if it was like, come and sit with diane abbott on the tube and have a mojito, i kind of get it like that's something she said as incendiary things, as nigel farage, and you just use that as justification. ineveri just use that as justification. i never i neverjustified throwing something. no. >> at nigel, the cardboard cut—out of nigel farage. >> it's taking the mickey out of something that wasn't okay. and i think sometimes that is like a good way of diffusing toxic behaviour. >> so then how is it not toxic behaviour to throw at a cardboard cut—out of diane abbott? >> well, i never said it wouldn't be, but i don't understand why you'd want to do that because she's not had a milkshake thrown at her, charlie. >> so i think that's the difference. i think so nigel farage was actually the victim

of someone throwing a milkshake at him and a brick, as alex went on to say. so i think it's it is a bit far fetched to then say, well, just to sort of downplay it, we'll recreate it in some other form. i think it's a it's a bit low rent. >> well, no one should be throwing anything at anyone. ultimately, i'd rather they throw it at a cardboard cut—out. >> but this is the problem, though, isn't it, when it happens to someone on the right? because this is a problem to him in real life. >> i think it's the idea that they've tried to recreate it several times. i think that's where it becomes slightly more sort of sinister and slightly more sort of. yeah. on the negative, rather than just a bit of fun. >> i mean, it must be terrifying. >> well, wayne says, oh, right, make a joke out of throwing liquids at people. all very funny until someone uses acid or some other dangerous liquid instead of milk or whatever it is. anyone throwing liquid at someone should be charged and if found guilty, well, given a sentence, the problem is that this is normalising it right by making fun of it. >> you're normalising saying this is okay, we endorse doing this. and that's my problem with it. and if it were, if it were

like on the protest today, if they'd set up stalls for diane abbott, as you said, and people started throwing milkshakes at it, people would say, you're racists. and that's the problem with this, this, this hypocrisy we have. and i don't think anyone should ever suffer political violence. i don't think anyone should ever encourage political violence. and i think the worst, worst offender of it all here is that it comes up from a charity called stand up to racism, and it is all about that, all that stuff. >> i think if you had a if you did this with trump and you recreated the horrible scenes that we saw recently, of course that we saw recently, of course that would be awful too. so on some level, i do agree with you, but i think to get that upset about a cardboard cut—out on a milkshake, we'll leave that there. >> thank you very much to the panel there. and the debate is, of course, still ahead. we answer all of your questions in ask the five, so do keep them coming in. but next in bunch of five. just when we thought the us presidential election couldn't get any stranger, there's a baseless rumour sweeping the internet that donald trump's running mate j.d. vance had sex with a couch. just what on earth is going on here? you're with the saturday five live on gb news

welcome back to the saturday five. they're testing my patience in here. >> i'll tell you that the verdicts are coming in for our saturday scrap. >> alex armstrong just took on james barr. of course, regarding the toss. a milkshake at farage game. now, mark says it is just a bit of fun. violence against politicians is totally wrong, but this is just a game, collins says. it creates a mindset and makes people feel it's acceptable. and paula , you acceptable. and paula, you wanted to say something about it. >> i just want to say, yeah, about horses, because i'm a horse lover and i don't want people to think that. i think all people that do dressage are cruel to their horses. i know 99.9% of people are wonderful. their horses. i just worry now an olympic sports, they're making, they're giving points to the riders that are doing very difficult moves on the horses.

so it's making the trainers have to be cruel sometimes. i'm not talking about when people do dressage in the yards in england. >> okey dokey. thank you for that. right now it's time for this . right. that. right now it's time for this. right. it's charlie first. what have you got? >> well, a bit of geopolitics, a bit of international relations . bit of international relations. something of something you wouldn't understand. darren, i don't think more. more often than not. wow. but above your head. well, i think look, you know, we've just had an election in this country, haven't we? where regardless of whether you voted conservative, whether you voted conservative, whether you voted labour, who thought they should win, whether there's the new movement of reform, we're blessed that we have a democracy in this country, whatever form it takes, it is a democracy. we vote our leaders in over the weekend. tomorrow, venezuela will go to the polls and, we'll have to wait and see whether the current president, president maduro, hangs on someone that is, very, very down in the polls. and it's been a dictatorship, frankly. and they've silenced opposition leaders. they've had to wheel

someone else to in be the opposition coalition leader, and we'll have to just wait and see. but i think it's it is just worth sort of noting that when you will see violence, probably in the streets, when the result is announced, that we are blessed to have the democracy that we have in this country. >> well, i do agree with that. >> well, i do agree with that. >> but i do think our system could be fairer. and i do think when we look at how pr would have translated in this country in the last election, you know, people, parties like reform, sorry, we've got substantially more votes than, than other parties that the liberal democrats. but came out with five seats. it seems like we're doing ourselves an injustice to say our democracy is perfect. >> well, i didn't say it was perfect, but i don't think it's better than venezuela. >> we can agree on that. but i don't think pr is the way forward. i agree, yes, i do want bnngs forward. i agree, yes, i do want brings lots of problems around the world because most people have pr and it's very hard to form a government and it can be actually worse. >> well, you know what happened in venezuela? >> they all said, oh goody goody, wouldn't it be a good idea to vote in some socialist nutjobs and they'll nationalise our oil industries and all that?

and that went very well for them. and that's exactly the kind of country that james wants to create, is it? >> i do think it's. so you do know geopolitics. look at you. >> yes, i know, what about trump? >> i used to work at an economic think. >> i think it's pretty scary because trump just said, didn't he, that you don't have to vote next time. it will be fixed. that's an exact quote that's quite scary. and that rings true in venezuela. to be honest. it's sort of the same vibe, right? >> yes. by hook or by crook, he will he will win again. so let's see. >> hi. okay. i'm going to speak about labour. hypocrisy happens all the time. labour were always harping on for about five years about the conservative ministers taking private jets for business, but now labour is in charge. he's decided to take a private jet for a jolly will you believe, just to go to watch the football in germany. angela has been quoted as stating that the tory mps that fly around the world on private jets are just showing you how little respect that they have for the

government, for the taxpayers money and now, keir is taking private jets, so has other ministers as well . so they've ministers as well. so they've been hypocritical, as per usual. do you know what i, what i think about this, paula, if an if you don't well i'm going to tell you help me because if they genuinely believed, you know wallace and gromit they're ed miliband. >> he goes on about how much this is an emergency. right. and that we need to do something about it. and otherwise the planet's just going to melt in a ball of flames. if he genuinely believed that, he wouldn't be taking jets in the way he does, they think we'd be paddling to his summit. that he wants to go to, to get across to the ocean. you know, he wouldn't be saying, oh, well, you know, i've got to get there by hook or by crook, like mr maduro. yes, yes. and get to a to b, they would be saying, well, i've got to stay at home. guess what? i'll open up zoom. i'll do it that way instead. it's not an emergency. we're not all going to die. it's

going to be fine. >> yeah. and i just think it's crazy what angela said because she'll be hopping on the jet. are you a meat eater, paula? >> do you eat meat? >> do you eat meat? >> do you know what? recently no, not. have you stopped? >> because you are obviously you love horses, but you eat meat. >> well, she doesn't eat a good steak sometimes. >> but i love chicken, i love fish, and i actually like corn. >> but this is the point, isn't it? you know, we can say we love animals, but then we'll eat them and we can say we want to save the planet, and then we'll take particularly love cows. >> i don't mind eating one. >> i don't mind eating one. >> and then we'll take a private jet. and this is hypocrisy. we're all hypocrites. but ultimately, angela rayner was the one that said the tories taken all of the private jets. >> they're showing how little regard they have for the taxpayers money. >> and now, didn't rishi seem like a helicopter from london to polly? >> not even for a business trip? didn't he? >> literally just travel from portsmouth to london in a helicopter? well, i look forward to judging all of sir keir starmer's trip. >> keir actually took a private to jet go to work. all right. he was the deputy, right? >> the shadow. right, right,

right. thank you very much. >> now last week i well in this very slot actually i discussed a poll about the nation's favourite biscuits. and this week the story has moved on apace. discount comparison website latestdeals.co.uk. asked on facebook what is the worst chocolate bar and boy oh boy, they got quickly hundreds of responses and turkish delight led the way as the most disliked, ahead of bounty bar's quite right too. yeah, and caramac on there as well, i see. >> oh caramac i love but i hate bounty and i hate i like bounty, i don't mind bounty either. >> that sort of coconutty. oh you're welcome to. >> oh, you are welcome to. >> oh, you are welcome to. >> you love camilla with the coconut tree. >> enjoying your bounty. >> enjoying your bounty. >> how about bringing it back out today ? because public wanted out today? because public wanted it. it was out of stock. they stopped making it and now they're bringing more. >> well, they didn't want it enough to buy it. well, now they're bringing it back. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, what's your favourite chocolate bar, james actually like a creme egg, which isn't really a chocolate bar. >> that's not a chocolate bar or a yorkie, because obviously i'm so manly, a yorkie. >> fine. >> fine. >> not because i like a nice picnic. >> a picnic, yes. oh, masca, i think it's what it is. funny,

you're right. >> mars bars for me. >> mars bars for me. >> mars bars . >> mars bars for me. >> mars bars. i love >> mars bars for me. >> mars bars . i love white >> mars bars. i love white chocolate, so i like the white cadbury's creme eggs or the white, kitkats as well. >> yeah, i'm making myself really hungry here. >> and i'm also realising i can't actually decide. you know what i actually really like? crunchy. >> oh no , i don't like that >> oh no, i don't like that centre toffee. yeah yeah. oh yeah. >> no, it reminds me of beamish museum. if anyone's ever been there, they make cindy yu toffee. >> i've been. >> i've been. >> alex, what have you got? >> alex, what have you got? >> yeah. so? >> yeah. so? >> so there's been an interesting debate happening in america about free speech. and now that debate is spilling over to social media. and i'm asking the question, should politicians be allowed to block the public onune? be allowed to block the public online? and so this, this actual topic has gone all the way to the supreme court in america, because people were complaining that trump was blocking them dunng that trump was blocking them during the during his presidency all the way back in the early 2020s. so i don't know where i stand on this, but i feel quite strongly that if you're a public official, you should not be able to block members of the public.

you must receive your due course from the public. you must receive whatever abuse it is. that's how it is. that's how i think public public discourse should be. and blocking people who haven't done anything nefarious other than to call you out on nonsense. i mean, sadiq khanis out on nonsense. i mean, sadiq khan is a prime example of this, but i'm not saying he blocks people, but he locks down his comments. so only people that he follows or likes can comment on it, which makes him look as good as gold. >> and i hate that to mute him because his account really annoyed me. >> well, you can definitely mute him, but you're not a publicly elected official. what do you think, charlie? would you block someone if you're a minister? >> one day? i i'm afraid i would. i would do it quite willingly. >> i should imagine. yeah. because i think, look, most of the people that seem to be on, you know, social media that you don't know if they're human, a lot of them could be bots anyway, just sort of firing off all kinds of things. and i think there are just other ways of communicating. you can still write a letter, you can still turn up to parliament to demand to see your mp. and i just think, you know, if you are the person that's got all the responsibility and the pressure of making the decisions, you don't, and you've got a family and you've got, you know, threats or whatever it is, you

don't need to be waking up to endless abuse day in, day out. and so i think you can just actually take great self—esteem and just picking up the phone and just picking up the phone and blocking that person with with a smile on your face, i think, i think i blocked people all the time, but i think also a lot of mps don't even run their own accounts. >> it's the assistants that are blocking people. they've probably got like a sock account that they use and don't even have your name. >> darren, who's the most famous person that's ever blocked you? there must be a few charlie rowley. >> oh, i mean, i've got the collection of owen jones, but i've also just because i want jones hasn't blocked me, actually. >> interesting. do you know what the mayor of west, the. she's not famous, but the mayor of west yorkshire blocked me after i asked what she was doing about the brackley grammar school teacher, tracy brabin, who was on corrie. so, you know, maybe she's famous in some way. i'm sure there are plenty, actually. that girl from, what's that? irish northern irish, from based in londonderry show called derry girls. derry girls. yeah. the actress in that who was also in bridgerton, she blocked me . mclachlan. >> yeah, well, i do have an announcement. i have been butter

blocked by benjamin butterworth. i've been blocked. i've been blocked in real life because he's no longer here as well. >> so there we go. no, he is coming back. he is coming back. apparently not with me. james, what about you? >> he's the most famous person to block me. yeah, i'd rather not say, actually. okay. really? >> that bad? what's your topic? >> that bad? what's your topic? >> what's your topic. >> what's your topic. >> can we rule out that trump's running mate, jd vance, hasn't had sex with a couch? can we rule that out? the associated press put out a story saying that he hadn't had sex with a couch, and then had to delete the story because they couldn't rule out whether he had or not. and this all started because someone on twitter posted saying that he had written about it in his 2016 memoir. but it turned out he hadn't. but i think he must have done. we've all had sex with a sofa. >> where does where do these to make up? >> where do these rumours come from? >> full of absolute loons? >> full of absolute loons? >> i mean, there are lots of stories about me that are categorically untrue . categorically untrue. >> i mean, they end up on the internet. and if you say, well, that's not true, people don't

believe you. so what's jd vance meant to do? i have total sympathy for jd vance and meant to do? i have total sympathy forjd vance and his sympathy for jd vance and his sofa escapades, or lack of sofa escapades , but he he strikes me escapades, but he he strikes me as a thoroughly decent human being. >> there's nothing un decent about having sex with a sofa in about having sex with a sofa in a glove. >> in a glove? yeah. i mean, you've never pulled apart the two pieces. maybe not. maybe >> maybe he was doing it for his a&e fans to get a bit more money. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> what a great idea. >> what a great idea. >> yeah. don't pay politicians enough a&e. >> that must be embarrassing. >> that must be embarrassing. >> but that will stick around if it's true or not. >> people always think that, well, he has to own it. he has to take a picture with his sofa, get out there and just own it. >> couch cruising couch . >> couch cruising couch. >> couch cruising couch. >> well, mr mrjd >> couch cruising couch. >> well, mr mr jd vance will be hoping that all of his voters, the american voters, get off their couch and cast their votes. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> still ahead, we'll answer all of the i try to be a little bit wholesome there. we'll answer all of your questions and ask the five. no topics are off

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a very warm welcome back to the saturday five. as always. thank you very much for all of your emails and messages about tonight's topics. speaking of which, though, it's time for this . all right, let's cast our this. all right, let's cast our eyes upon what you've got in store for us this week . caroline store for us this week. caroline has written in. good evening, caroline. she says hi , fab five. caroline. she says hi, fab five. i want a nice, fun , blockbuster i want a nice, fun, blockbuster type movie to watch with the kids tomorrow . any kids tomorrow. any recommendations? oh i have no buster for kids. it's the new. what? what age is the new twister film? i love that when i was a kid and they've released, i don't watch that. >> it's woke. it's how can it be

really woke? >> it's bombed in the american box. i don't know, but maybe the twisters have changed their identity. i don't know, maybe they're. goodness, maybe they've changed genders. >> well, there are more than one of them. there cyclones. they are. they them . are. they them. >> director is telling me that they're cyclones. actually, you uneducated tweet. >> well, i gave i'd gave family show's i'd gave for the out of towners with goldie hawn and steve martin. >> it's very old. well there's an older version, but goldie hawn and steve, that does not sound like a blockbuster movie. >> there it is. and or anger management with adam. >> i think it's adam sandler. >> i think it's adam sandler. >> and go for the taylor swift eras tour. actually, i think that's a pretty big movie. >> they didn't ask for a music, a gig . a gig. >> she wanted a comedy, didn't she? >> blockbuster . blockbuster with >> blockbuster. blockbuster with the family. >> really big blockbusters out at the moment, i don't think. >> no, this is the problem with the cinema these days. there's just not a lot of great stuff out anymore, is there? >> but it's from any era, any era. she didn't specify that out at the minute and she can watch it on streaming. oh well. the saturday five lviv just get the tv times, go and pick yourself. >> cindy yu films , penny arcade, >> cindy yu films, penny arcade,

are you from all right, we've got this in from gareth. >> gareth says, hi, gang. we can forget the olympic opening ceremony now and move on to the events. what will you be watching over the next two weeks? well, if the opening ceremony was anything to go by, not a lot is the answer to that. gareth, to be perfectly honest. paula. dressage. >> track and field. i used to do 100m. i was at the london youth games actually , and 70 metre games actually, and 70 metre hurdles, so i love track and field. i'll be watching that. >> right, charlie? >> right, charlie? >> yeah, the athletics i think is always a one to watch, but the diving as well that does. >> i think gymnastics gets the nafion >> i think gymnastics gets the nation going, gets the nation going gold. >> we enjoyed the rugby today actually just a little bit of the rugby before i came into the studio. >> so definitely be watching that. and i do love the olympic tennis as well for some reason. it's just great to have wimbledon back to back with that, and i am really excited about the breakdancing because i think it's its first ever year to be in the olympics. >> wow. right. >> wow. right. >> we've got this in from jenny. jenny says. hi everyone. great to see james on the show. how

much did you pay? jenny? what a rip off! the average price for takeaway fish and chips is now just under a tenner. how much would you pay for bang average fish supper? well there's a really there's quite a posh one near me in, like south shields. i think it is. i've never been yet, but it's always got queues outside the door, absolutely desperate to get in. i really like fish and chips , so. but i like fish and chips, so. but i don't know how much i. how much is it these days? >> i used to order, like, fish burger a lot with cheese. so fish burger with chips, mushy peas and gravy and curry sauce. and it was £11 for delivery. >> yeah, that sounds about right. >> we've got a pretty good fishing as an industry as well. >> right. i think that's you know, supporting your local fish and chip shop is because the french can't fish our fish anymore. >> so that's good for the time being. >> well for now. >> well for now. >> so keir starmer is on his way to give, emmanuel macron a blank check saying fishy fishy on macron's dishy that's coming , macron's dishy that's coming, that's coming. how much would you be willing. you're very tight. >> am i really .

>> am i really. >> am i really. >> you know what? i don't think it should be over a fiver personally for some fish and chips. >> oh, that's way too low. >> oh, that's way too low. >> but no, but that's £5 for a fish and chips. i mean, what are we talking about here? i mean, everyone's gone mad. i think that £12 for fishermen can't even get his boat out to the sea. this is the problem with inflation, isn't it? this is a cost of living problem. this is. this is the problem with how we've managed our borders and how we've managed to deal with europe going forward, it's only going to get more expensive as half our fish go off to macron, as you said. but i think fiver should be a reasonable fish and chips. okay, max, £10 in london. max. not in london of course, but most parts of the country are fiver. >> one of our viewers says i can get fish and chips for 650. there you go. i don't know where you've been gone for £5. >> fish outside the london bubble. >> oh, please. >> oh, please. >> this. how do you know our viewers? not outside the london bubble. >> they are reasonable people. >> they are reasonable people. >> how much would you pay? >> how much would you pay? >> i think i'm in the same region as our viewer. they're between 5 and 10, but i'd hope no more than £7.50. >> okey dokey. thank you very much. to a wonderful quartette of champions tonight . charlie of champions tonight. charlie rowley paula london, alex

armstrong and james barr. alex says james is deluded. please come back. butterworth. oh there we are. next up it's the brilliant leo kearse with the saturday night showdown. cheers for watching. we'll see you next week . week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well it's been quite an unsettled start to the weekend, but as high pressure builds, we're going to see plenty of dry weather on sunday. and that's because this weather front that's been affecting us today will generally fizzle out. and then we've got high pressure building into the atlantic and moving its way across the uk for sunday. back to you tonight though, and any showers would generally be easing away, leaving a largely dry evening and staying largely dry overnight to plenty of clear spells which means we're likely to see some mist and fog overnight , particularly in those overnight, particularly in those rural spots. and that's where it's going to be feeling a little bit cooler, too. but most

towns and cities remaining in the low double digits . so to the low double digits. so to start on sunday morning, then there should be plenty of bright sunshine around. but as i say, there will be spots of mist and fog around, particularly in rural spots across devon and cornwall and rural parts of wales, but plenty of bright sunshine elsewhere . and it's sunshine elsewhere. and it's going to be a fairly mild night too, which means it's going to be quite a warm start to sunday as well. a bit more cloudy across northwestern parts of scotland and in the north of scotland and in the north of scotland too, and just a chance of a few showers feeding in here as well. but otherwise for sunday as high pressure builds there'll be plenty of dry fine weather around, feeling very warm in some spots , but do take warm in some spots, but do take care as uv levels are expected to be quite high into the afternoon though we are going to see cloud build into the far northwest of scotland and later on into western parts of northern ireland, so more in the way of hazy sunshine there. but elsewhere, where you do catch those prolonged, sunnier periods , those prolonged, sunnier periods, that's where it's going to be

feeling warm to start the new working week, there'll still be plenty of dry and fine weather around a build of high cloud, though, which means there'll be more in the way of hazy sunshine. a different story in the northwest, though, as we continue to see that cloud build and thick enough to produce some spots of rain at times, and still plenty of dry weather into next week. but we could see a thundery breakdown from wednesday onwards by for now , it wednesday onwards by for now, it looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

>> very good evening to you . >> very good evening to you. you're watching and listening to gb news. just after 11:00. and the top story tonight, as we've been reporting, new video has emerged, which is believed to capture the lead up to the moment a now suspended police officer kicked and stamped on a man at manchester airport. if

you're watching on television , you're watching on television, you're watching on television, you can see here that latest video obtained by manchester evening news. it's been released as police are attempting to pinpoint the events that led up to the separate and widely shared video, which has sparked protests since it emerged on social media. the force in manchester are appealing for witnesses to a confrontation on a qatar airways flight or in terminal two's baggage hall at manchester airport. the police are also asking for any information about a fight at a starbucks coffee shop and the assault of three officers at the airport's car park. priti patel has announced her bid to become leader of the conservatives. the former home secretary says she can unite the party and turn it back into a winning machine. she joins james cleverly, tom tugendhat, robert jenrick and mel stride in the to race replace rishi sunak. nominations for that leadership contest close on monday . well, nine close on monday. well, nine people have been arrested

tonight following a rally organised by tommy robinson in central london. thousands of people were involved with hundreds of police officers on the streets to monitor that protest. the metropolitan police say four people are still in custody on suspicion of assault on emergency workers, though it's understood no one sustained any serious injuries. it's understood no one sustained any serious injuries . meanwhile, any serious injuries. meanwhile, opposing groups, including to stand up racism and jeremy corbyns peace and justice project also staged counter—demonstrations to, in their words, resist the far right . well, at least ten right. well, at least ten people, mostly children and teenagers, have been killed and dozens left injured after a rocket strike on a children's football pitch . in football pitch. in. that video they're showing the moments that those rockets were fired towards the israeli occupied area of golan heights with witnesses

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