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here we are together again. welcome to the neil oliver show on gb news tv, on radio and online. on tonight's show, well, it's been another dramatic week in us politics. i'll be assessing the current state of play assessing the current state of play in the race for the white house with political analyst garland nixon . what impact could garland nixon. what impact could the presidential race have on united states foreign policy? but a lot i would think. and could the outcome increase the chance of global conflicts? i'll be talking about that to colonel douglas macgregor, and we will ask what impact the international court of justice's ruling last week against israel may have on the ongoing conflict in gaza? all of that coming up, plus plenty of discussion and contrary opinion. i hope with my panellists , tom buick. but panellists, tom buick. but first, an update on the latest .
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news. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories tonight. protesters gathered outside downing street demonstrating against the reported arrest of tommy robinson have now moved on to scotland yard. his supporters say he was arrested under anti—terror laws, comes after a complaint was made after a film was allegedly shown at a central london rally yesterday, in breach of a high court order. two men in their 20s have died after a two seater light aeroplane crashed in a field in thorganby, near selby. north yorkshire police received an emergency call just before ten this morning. it's thought the victims are the pilot and his passenger. their next of kin , passenger. their next of kin, kin, have been informed and an investigation is underway. manchester's mayor is urging
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people not to rush to judgement following thursday's incident at the airport . there, andy the airport. there, andy burnham's comments follow the publication of new video obtained by manchester evening news , which appears to show news, which appears to show a violent altercation in the lead up to a suspect being kicked by a police officer. the constable involved is now under criminal investigation for assault. mr burnham says it's a complicated situation . priti patel has situation. priti patel has become the fifth mp to enter the tory leadership race. the former home secretary says she can unite the party and turn it back into a, quote, winning machine . into a, quote, winning machine. she joins james cleverly, robert jenrick, tom tugendhat and mel stride all running to replace rishi sunak . stride all running to replace rishi sunak. nominations close tomorrow . the foreign secretary tomorrow. the foreign secretary is condemning a rocket strike in the israeli controlled golan heights , which killed 12 people, heights, which killed 12 people, including children. david lammy said we are deeply concerned about the risk of further escalation and destabilisation.
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israel's released this footage of air attacks being carried out against hezbollah targets in lebanon overnight . water bosses lebanon overnight. water bosses who repeatedly allow sewage to be dumped illegally , will face be dumped illegally, will face criminal charges under the new government plans. environment secretary steve reed is warning they'll also be stripped of their bonuses as part of tougher regulations. he also says customers will receive refunds if money that's been earmarked for sewage system investment isn't spent on that. >> if water bosses keep pumping these levels of raw sewage into our waterways, they'll face criminal charges. we'll give the regulator the power they need to ban the payment of the multi—million pound bonuses they've been awarding themselves, despite overseeing this kind of catastrophic failure. and we're going to ring fence customers money that is earmarked for investment in improving the sewage infrastructure so that if it's not spent on that, it gets refunded back to customers in discounts off their bills. >> those are the latest news
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headunes >> those are the latest news headlines for now. i'm ray addison more in about an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> pantomime season hasn't come early. it's here year round . not early. it's here year round. not in the theatres, but everywhere else. the usa now has much of the appearance of, if not a panto, then a desperate soap opera. one of those daytime efforts, mostly ridiculous characters and a script cobbled together from jokes from unseasonal christmas crackers. politicians who lecture their citizens and the wider world about democracy , night and day about democracy, night and day have, metaphorically at least , have, metaphorically at least, bumped off their own president, dropping him apparently against his will or what remains of his
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will in that demonstrably ruined brain. as their candidate for the upcoming election. the us democratic party has thereby done away with democracy. surely negating the legitimacy of its own existence . in a time when own existence. in a time when democracy is said to be threatened as never before, when democracy is said to be the be all and end all of civilisation. the democratic party high ups simply did away with the man they had insisted was their democratically chosen candidate, being their own president, joe biden. suddenly identified as not fit for purpose after years of stumbling and mumbling as dementia rose around him like floodwater and replacing him with a woman no one wants in power or ever wanted. biden doesn't seem to have been removed because he has dementia. rather, it had to be done only because too many ordinary people had finally found his dementia impossible to overlook any longer. impossible to deny. that move followed the attempted
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shooting of president donald trump. of course, for the most powerful nation on earth to lose one contender for the top job might be bad luck, but to come within a hair's breadth of losing both in the same week looks downright careless. it also appeared brazen. the self—appointed elite showing who's boss without so much as a by your leave. you might say biden's name has been erased from the ticket and laughing gas. kamala harris's name has been scribbled in its place and on a dime. the same politicians and mainstream media talking heads who only weeks ago were assuring audiences biden was as sharp as a tack and now all in for kamala , voted for by no one. for kamala, voted for by no one. commentators more seasoned than me have pointed out that if those events had unfolded in a country so—called democrats didn't like russia, maybe they'd be shouting from the rooftops about a coup, which is effectively what it was. whatever else, it all looks ludicrous or perhaps downright sinister. the deep state, the
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leviathan, whatever you want to call the entity running things has had no option but to come to the surface where all can see it. it had to surface in desperation, perhaps to carry out blatant acts of tyranny before sinking into the depths once more. that descent into the darkness out of sight might best be obscured , covered up by be obscured, covered up by something. eye catchingly catastrophic. a world war, maybe on the other side of the aisle. donald trump has announced as his running mate jd vance, a senator from ohio, a former marine, a successful author and businessman, a lawyer praised by union leaders for standing up for the workers. vance also has ties to peter thiel , ties to peter thiel, entrepreneur, billionaire and all round svengali. by all accounts, the man behind paypal and more recently, palantir, a private company backed by the cia that harvests data about citizens spying on them. to an extent, george orwell's big brother could scarcely have
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dreamt of. vance and trump have called for an end of the war in ukraine, sure enough, but there's plenty more war where that came from. out with the old, in with the new. israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, received several ovations in the capitol building in washington this week in front of a joint session of congress politicians. most of whom have undeniable ties to aipac being the israeli lobby. netanyahu told republicans and democrats alike that the war in gaza was america's war, as well as israel's . he said that iran is israel's. he said that iran is america's most radical and murderous enemy. he told protesters, many holding placards declaring him a wanted war criminal in reference to an arrest warrant sought by the international criminal court that they were iran's useful idiots . whispers are already idiots. whispers are already circulating that the so called lone shooter in pennsylvania, the jeans and t shirt clad 20 year old without an online presence or much of a past at
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all, who apparently came within all, who apparently came within a whisker of the killing that might have ignited a civil war in america. speculation that he was an asset of guess where? iran. anyone spotting a pattern here as one war closes, another one opens just in time. these are black days. bloody days. is there anyone anywhere near the levers of power who prefers peace to war? here in britain, we've got the head of the army, general sir raleigh walker, telling anyone who will listen that we have to be ready to fight russia. china iran and nonh fight russia. china iran and north korea. what he called an axis of upheaval in three years time. war is peace, as we were told by the uniparty in george orwell's 1984. also, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength . although orwell meant strength. although orwell meant all as a warning, not an instruction manual. the sense of chaos , destruction and impending chaos, destruction and impending doom is so pervasive now it's hard not to draw the conclusion. it's all just fakery. confected fear porn designed and rolled
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out so as to get the herd stampeding once more. get them panicked, and keep them panicked. american journalist h.l. mencken said the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence clamorous, to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. wherever else we are now, however close we might to be catastrophe of one sort or another. global war, economic collapse, cyber attack, aliens from mars who knows? we're surely approaching peak fear mongering , the threat of the mongering, the threat of the sort of chaos that hurts the billions of regular people and enriches and empowers that relative handful of already rich and powerful. the evidence is everywhere. in his novel blood meridian , cormac mccarthy said meridian, cormac mccarthy said war was always here before man was war. waited for him. the ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. we have now, if not the ultimate practitioners of war, certainly the most enthusiastic and committed we've seen for a
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while. war in ukraine has been going on for more than two years. counts of the dead there vary from the tens of thousands to well over half a million, and the gears of the meat grinder are still mindlessly, cheerfully whirling. a report published in the lancet earlier this month predicted a death toll in gaza in excess of 186,000 people, most of them women and children. there are presently 45 armed conflicts in the middle east and nonh conflicts in the middle east and north africa, 35 elsewhere in africa , 21in asia, seven in africa, 21in asia, seven in europe and six in latin america. the us has as many general officers in service today as it had during world war ii, when its armed forces totalled 14 million fighting men. nato's senior military figure, admiral rob bauer, has urged a whole of society approach to war against russia. here in britain and in the usa , politicians with the usa, politicians with a taste for war raise the spectre of citizen armies, which surely means in the end, conscription for the citizens of both countries. our children.
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american major general smedley butler was that nation's most decorated marine. when he died in 1940. he said war is a racket and always had been. he said it was the most profitable racket. the most vicious, in which profits are counted in dollars and losses in lives and bodies. and here we are in 2024, when some of the wealthiest and therefore the most influential people in the world, because money talks. a few people made wealthier beyond imagining in the last 2 or 3 years alone, a time that has seen the greatest transfer of wealth from poor to rich in history. when some of those people preach that there are too many people in the world anyway. birthrates fall all around the world. entire populations are failing to make enough babies even to continue their existences . and yet, those their existences. and yet, those among us with the loudest voices preach population reduction. the eugenicists, the malthusians, those behind agenda 2030, transhumanism and the like are never far away and always anti—human to the marrow of their bones. war will cut the
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numbers efficiently in a single hot, bright moment. if the war hawks get their way and the nuclear missiles fly. the internet is awash with a meme beanng internet is awash with a meme bearing a quote attributed to albert einstein . whether he said albert einstein. whether he said the words or not, the sentiment sounds about right. i do not know with what weapons world war three will be fought, but world war four will be fought with sticks and stones. here's the thing. i heard someone say this week that when the leviathan is exposed, it's because something, somewhere has gone badly wrong with the plan. when the political elites in america have no option but to drop the mask and reveal themselves for what they are, what it's all about, which is power. it's only desperate measures to prevent that power slipping from their grasp when it's so obviously not about preserving democracy, or respecting far less acting upon the will of the people when their intentions are so barefacedly corrupt, when their ambition is so plain to see, when all roads lead to money and war, we must ask again, what are
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we supposed to be contemplating sending our children off to war to fight for ? to fight for? i'm joined for today's show by writer and podcaster tom buick . writer and podcaster tom buick. it's somewhere old at the moment, tom. i mean, just a chaos in paris in the before the opening of the olympics, even. we've had the trump shooting. we've had the trump shooting. we've had the trump shooting. we've had biden getting dropped from the ticket. we've had kamala harris suddenly thrust before us. it just feels like one crisis after another , which one crisis after another, which starts to feel like somebody's plan . plan. >> and only your expert drafting, i think, can capture that sheer complexity in a single monograph. but, really, what i was struck by as you were speaking there, neil, was this sort of sense actually something john f kennedy famously said that we've got nothing to fear
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but fear itself, and maybe we've got a to a point in our political discourse, certainly in this country, in america and other parts of the world, where that narrative of fear now is front and centre and i do think some of it is justified. i mean, as you know, you and i take a different position, i think, on the war in ukraine, to paraphrase, you sort of talked about it's the warmongers, it's the people really interested in the people really interested in the sort of military complex potentially sacrificing the young flowering of youth. and of course, that is absolutely one of the horrible consequences of war. but take ukraine, for example. i don't see the west has any other choice than to back ukraine to the hilt. this recent security conference that took place, the european political community , something political community, something the danish prime minister said about the need to ensure that ukraine doesn't lose this war.
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it's not just about their territorial integrity in my view, it's about the underlying tenets of western civilisation that has been in the ascendancy. let's be honest, for about 400 years now. i mean, the roman empire , the western roman empire empire, the western roman empire had a similar tenure of ascendancy. we're in a period we're we're living through a penod we're we're living through a period where we're unsure whether the west will continue with its values and its morals to have that kind of ascendancy. >> but does it have the right i mean, i ask you again, didn't the west didn't nato pick this fight with russia instead of this nonsense about putin having being the provocateur and the and the aggressor wasn't he left with no option where i can find some common cause with you on that question is, has the west acted too late, too little, too late on a situation that was unfolding even before the annexation of crimea in 2014, agreeing things like the nord stream 2 pipeline within two years of putin's aggression,
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annexing the sovereign territory of a european country on our own continent. >> so of course, in hindsight, there are lots of questions for our political elites. and you're right to highlight them, but i put the question sort of back to you in a sense, which is what alternative do we have? >> because, you know, i'll tell you an alternative, an alternative would have been if we truly believed in democracy, you know, we wouldn't be standing behind an america that that provoked a coup , that that provoked a coup, that deposed a democratically elected president in the ukraine, which was ultimately in relatively recent terms. what triggered all of this? i'm going to have to go into a break because we can pick this up next on the program. what impact could the presidential race have on us foreign policy? could the outcome increase the chance of global conflicts? i'll be asking colonel douglas macgregor, don't go away .
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welcome back to the neil oliver show. now, it's been a week of manoeuvring by the us presidential candidates , but how presidential candidates, but how might the outcome of the us election affect the rest of us around the world wars? back in europe has been for the last two years. how long before we are drawn into conflict? here, there and everywhere? who better to discuss such matters than with colonel douglas macgregor, a combat veteran and a former white house adviser? good evening, colonel. thanks for joining me. >> good to be with you, >> good to be with you, >> so many shenanigans, so much malarkey in us politics at the moment. is america poised to choose one of two very different destinies? you know, what with, you know, backing kamala harris or perhaps donald trump, who knows which of them will get
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into the white house? are we are we dealing with, i don't know, schrodinger's white house at the moment with a cat both alive and deadin moment with a cat both alive and dead in there at the same time? >> no, i think that's a good analogy. actually. there are three candidates, including rf , three candidates, including rf, k junior bobby kennedy jr , for k junior bobby kennedy jr, for sure. and he's he's really fundamentally different from the other two. the two do tend to blend into one sometimes, clearly at this point, the israelis and the jewish lobby inside the united states strongly favour trump as being the one they are convinced will back israel's war with iran, not just the invasion of southern lebanon, but when it spreads to iran, they're convinced that trump will support that. at the same time, you know, you have the issue in ukraine that trump would like to see that end, but he hasn't explained how he would do it, what steps he would take, and on, for that matter, on the other side , there doesn't seem other side, there doesn't seem to be any interest in ending
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anything. in ukraine. but they are talking about a two state solution in the middle east. i think the only one who is, universally committed to building peace, as opposed to prosecuting war is, bobby kennedy jr. so it's not a it's not a good picture right now in the united states because at least two thirds of the candidates are both committed one way or another to continued hostilities. >> does anyone, though, really convincingly, have their foot on the brake or anyone near the brake pedal? i mean, you say you're right, of course, to say that , bobby you're right, of course, to say that, bobby kennedy jr is the is the is the third credible candidate, but, you know, he has the noises i've heard him making, you know, are again, what we always hear, which is about absolutely backing israel. so it doesn't necessarily feel that there's any, that there would be any inclination there to back off from conflict in that perennial hot spot. >> well, i think all of the candidates are intimidated by jewish money and power inside
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the united states and the west. i think you have a similar problem in great britain, people are unwilling to speak out against the israeli behaviour in gaza and their passion for widening the war, because they're afraid of being called anti—semites. but more important, they're afraid of losing, financial support. it's that simple. if you watched netanyahu speak here, he received 58 standing ovations in the space of 55 minutes. frankly, his speech wasn't that good. but everyone is clapping vigorously who attended because they want the money to continue to flow to them. i think there's something else, neal, that's it's worth mentioning, though, for your audience and that is that we could have a very serious crisis here at home in the near term, in the white house itself. now, kamala harris is going to carry the standard for the democrats, but there's a real possibility that president biden may resign
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or worse , that he could actually or worse, that he could actually pass away. he's not in good shape physically at all, if that were to happen, we would be in a crisis similar to what happened when richard nixon was president . when richard nixon was president. he replaced his, vice president initially, and then subsequently he had to resign and he had to be replaced by a vice president. and again, we had to pick a new one. and that requires the house and the senate to, essentially confirm or reject whomever the president happens to be at the time and nominates for vice president. i mentioned this because the leadership in the united states is very , very united states is very, very fluid at the moment. people don't have a great deal of confidence in president harris. and frankly , not a lot of people and frankly, not a lot of people had much confidence in president biden. so i think that picture is going to continue at least into the fall . into the fall. >> bear with me, colonel. my guest here in the studio, tom, i felt you nodding. or definitely
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giving some body language indication that you were interested to respond to what the colonel was saying there. >> yeah, i mean, look, i mean, i must take issue with tropes like jewish money's driving us foreign policy. neal. i don't think that's helpful. actually, in a debate like this, where i think, you know, we do need to have a debate, of course, is with the actions of the israeli government over many decades. not, for example, adhering to un security council resolutions on the occupied territories. i think we'll be talking some more about that on the show, but i you know, i think what's unfolding in the us, is actually democracy in the sense that people can see, as you said, in your monologue, that we've got a president of the united states who's not capable really, to do his job. and yes, you could argue it's a q, but effectively, under the constitution, that is completely in order, isn't it? and, you know, kamala harris has
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the vice president anyway, would step in in the event of what colonel macgregor is talking about and the events that joe biden couldn't do his job, i think you'd have to be playing pretty fast and loose with the concept of democracy to say that, you know, just bumping him, the democratically made choice of candidate off of the off of the ballot, bringing somebody else in without so much as a vote, and then and then to invoke that as democracy in action. i mean, yeah, but neil, how many prime ministers have we had in the last five years? >> hardly hold that up as a, as a that's not. >> but what i'm saying is within, you know, i mean we're a parliamentary democracy. the states is a constitutional republic. all i'm trying to say to you is that, i mean, we could say we don't agree with it. we don't think it's right. but i think it's a bit strong to say it's a it's a coup when people are operating within their parliamentary within the constitutional system. >> what do you say, colonel? also, i mean, obviously, tom there, you know, takes issue with your suggestion that we jewish money. but for me, i don't understand why anyone should be able to stand behind
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anything as a as some sort of invisible shield against being criticised for actions, you know, you know, so if people are behaving badly to me, it doesn't matter who or what they are. well you call it the behaviour more important than any other single factor. >> if you're going to have a debate about anything, well, i don't know if you could hear me or not. i think honesty is pre—eminently important in any debate . we need to be honest debate. we need to be honest about where the money is coming from, where the billions of dollars are located, and who is putting these vast sums of money against policy options. remember, against the backdrop of our open borders, all of this business overseas, frankly, from the standpoint of most americans, is not terribly important. we're talking today about potential for war with russia in eastern europe and the potential for a widening war in the middle east. it could bring in iran and ultimately russia and even china and other countries . these are very countries. these are very serious matters. but inside the united states, people are pre—eminently concerned about the open borders, the rising
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criminality, inflation, the deterioration in our economic capacity, but most importantly, the fact that we have over 52 million people living inside our country who are not born here, those things may not seem terribly important to you in europe, but for us, those issues are far, far more important than anything happening anywhere else. >> thank you so much for your insight. and this is a conversation that i hope we can keep on having. it's of the utmost importance on both sides of the atlantic. thank you so much. conor mcgregor. next on the program, political analyst garland nixon will be here to help us assess the state of the presidential race and tell us who is in charge of the united states right now. you're watching the neil oliver show on
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gb news. welcome back, lovely people. to the neil oliver show . now the the neil oliver show. now the race to become the so—called leader of the free world took another twist last week when president joe biden decided he would not be running for re—election. so we're told biden has endorsed his vice president, kamala harris, who now looks poised to take on republican candidate donald trump in what's likely to be a bitter and hard fought contest over the next few months. i'm joined now to discuss all of this by garland nixon, a radio talk show host and political analyst in washington , dc. it's a pleasure washington, dc. it's a pleasure to see you there . thank you for to see you there. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for inviting me, >> thank you for inviting me, >> this is a fascinating period in american history through which we are living, is it not? what was your, gut reaction to the to the pivot from sharp as a
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tack, ready for anything joe biden to sidelining him and now all guns blazing with kamala harris that it wouldn't appear many people particularly want ? many people particularly want? >> well, i had argued for quite some time now that the primary process demonstrated that or the lack thereof. of a process, demonstrated that the democratic party understood that they were going to have to replace joe biden. i didn't i didn't think it was, you know, i thought it was remarkable that, the during the primary, they had they said, we're going to have no debates. so they didn't , they didn't so they didn't, they didn't expose joe biden to any scrutiny about his cognitive decline dunng about his cognitive decline during the debate. they, in many states, there was there were up to three other candidates who were registered democrats who had done everything within the confines and standards of the process to become, bona fide and certified candidates who were not on the ballot. there were a number of states where they just
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said, joe biden's the only name we're going to put on the ballot. we're not going to put any more names on the ballot. so i had argued all along there was a setup so that when they decided to replace joe biden, there would be no one in second place who could claim, okay, well, you have to give it to me. and simply the, the ruling elite, the leaders, the elites of the democratic party could choose someone of their choosing, that ended up being, kamala harris. and i certainly suspect that they will be extremely sorry in the long run that they picked her. >> it's an alarming irony, to put it mildly, that a so—called democratic party is operating in this way. you know what is democratic inherently about the way in which they have sought to get their own way. and by they i mean the high ups, the, you know, the high panjandrum. >> again, you know, i think these things i you know, i hate to sound like i'm blowing my own horn, but some of these things have become obvious to me. i had argued , after 20, the 2020
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argued, after 20, the 2020 election, the democratic party could no longer have a democratic process. they could not afford the luxury of a democratic process. now because there's so much corruption, and because the party is so misaligned from the wants and needs of the working class people in their party that they could not allow those people to choose the candidate. in 2016, donna brazile wrote a book and she was the chair of the democratic party. she wrote a bookin democratic party. she wrote a book in which she admitted the process was rigged . recently, process was rigged. recently, representative adam smith came out on, on, i believe it was msnbc and said we chose joe biden in 2020. he was selected not because he could beat donald trump , but because he could trump, but because he could beat, bernie sanders. the party was more concerned about an attack from the left than they were anything on the right. they'd far rather have donald trump than they would a left leaning candidate, or allow their constituency to actually choose the candidate . they can't choose the candidate. they can't afford that anymore. so any
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thought of democracy ? democracy, thought of democracy? democracy, it's in words only. it's, the party now is straight out totalitarian and elite ruled top down. >> ought to we invoke the c word? by which i mean coup? would you say that joe biden has been forced out in a style that were happening in any other place, a country that they didn't like? russia that they would have been shouting coup from the rooftops ? from the rooftops? >> well, i would argue that it wasn't a coup, >> well, i would argue that it wasn't a coup , because a coup wasn't a coup, because a coup implies that, power was seized in an extra democratic process , in an extra democratic process, or power was seized in a process thatis or power was seized in a process that is not normally the process for that particular entity. in order for there to have been a coup, that would mean that the people of the party had some inputin people of the party had some input in the power structure of the party. and since, as we could see by, you know, any numerous issues, i could go with a medicare for all, where 80% of democrats are in favour of
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medicare, medicare for all, in fact, no, let me change that. it was 87%. are in favour of medicare for all of a national health system, and the 13% that ruled the party said, no, i could go on and on wearing the with, polling numbers that show that the party elite, the rulership of the party is completely separated from its constituency . and so therefore, constituency. and so therefore, there was no power to be taken . there was no power to be taken. they all basically all they did was they did away with the illusion that they were, putting forth of democracy. and now it's pretty clear, straight out that they're not even going to pretend anymore. >> i can't have you here without inviting you to contemplate what happenedin inviting you to contemplate what happened in in butler , happened in in butler, pennsylvania. what's your gut instinct about the best way to assess what happened that day? >> well, you know the problem we have in butler, pennsylvania is that it's kind of like a philosophy class. every question that comes up, you know, brings up ten more questions. i mean,
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we now find out that the secret service that the government , you service that the government, you know, turned down a drone. they didn't want a drone, but yet the perpetrator, the apparent perpetrator, the apparent perpetrator of the crime, was able to fly a drone around for several hours. the more you look at it, it becomes like the keystone cops. it's like a comedy of errors . so the comedy of errors. so the questions that arise from that , questions that arise from that, from this incident, in the context of a historical, a country where historically we have ample evidence that the intelligence agencies committed murders of a president of a of a, you know, president to be on the on the campaign trail such as this of, you know, malcolm x, martin luther king name after name after name. it's i, i would argue it is, prudent to assume that there was, you know , some that there was, you know, some nefarious, diabolical intent here, even if there weren't, i think it's fair for people to make that the assumption. and those who may be democrats who
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say, no, it's not possible. certainly, if the same thing happened to joe biden and the roles were reversed, they would say, yeah, i think somebody is up to no good. so the more we look into this, the more it becomes apparent that there are questions that can't be answered. and then you start asking yourself an incident of this nature or the incident of this nature or the incident of this level. this would normally be 24 hour news cycle non—stop, and every time a question was brought up, the news media would look into it with an electron microscope instead of now you know, that's everything. but, they want to talk about everything except that it's all kamala harris all the time now . kamala harris all the time now. >> so it's brushed under the carpet because it was an inside job. can i take that from what you're saying? >> which is ridiculous. >> which is ridiculous. >> well, you know, we have to be reasonable and say we can't come to a conclusion that it is an inside job at this point, but we cannot laugh anyone out of the room who who's who strongly suspects that it was an inside job. >> garland nixon, thank you so much for your insight this evening. i'll hope to continue this conversation with you in
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another time and place. coming up next, we will ask what impact the international court of justice's ruling last week against israel may have on the ongoing conflict in gaza? don't go anywhere
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welcome back once more to the neil oliver show. now, the international court of justice ruled this week that israel's settlement policy in occupied palestinian territories is in breach of international law. unlawful. a panel of 15 judges concluded that the transfer by israel of settlers to the west bank and jerusalem, as well as israel's maintenance of their presence, is contrary to article 49 of the fourth geneva convention. so what next for the united war torn region? i'm
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joined now by united states podcast host kim iverson. good afternoon, kim, lovely to see you there . you there. >> thank you. good morning. it's morning for me. >> good morning to you. >> good morning to you. >> great to be here. >> great to be here. >> i've been paying attention to what you've had to say in very recent times about, events in gaza, events in that in that, that war torn place. i wonder if i could just get you to react to that international court of justice ruling about the unlawful nature of the activities of the of the settlers there. >> yeah. interestingly, this is coming, 56 years too late. i mean, what they i mean, i'm glad it's i'm glad it's happening now. it'sjust it's i'm glad it's happening now. it's just that it is really unfortunate. and it's really something we should question is why it took so long for them to come to this conclusion, this is something the palestinian people have been saying since the
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occupation in 1967, that they're under duress , that this is not under duress, that this is not a military occupation for the safety of israel, that this is instead an ethnic cleansing campaign with the intent to take the land. and they've been saying this and saying this. and over the decades, israel has encroached on their land, taken more of their land, has confiscated their resources, has diverted their resources to the israeli people and away from the palestinian people . and finally, palestinian people. and finally, now i think the world is catching up largely because of the internet, people being able to see what is happening and that raising such high levels of alarm that finally the icj stepped in and said, hey, wait a minute, you guys cannot be doing this. this is not a military occupation. this is clearly a project, a long term project. so i'm glad they're i'm glad they're doing it. i think that this is going to wake up a lot of the world. >> it surely must become increasingly difficult for the united states. >> as you say, the netanyahu addressing a joint session in congress. well, large numbers of protesters were were there in
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the in the vicinity making their feelings clear. you know, when there is this a warrant sought for the arrest of benjamin netanyahu, you know, on the bafis netanyahu, you know, on the basis of, you know, crimes against humanity for the united states to continue to be full throated in its support must be must increasingly look controversial to the rest of the world. >> it's certainly looking increasingly controversial here increasingly controversial here in this country. and this is the first time ever that this discussion has happened in this country, this country has been tried and true , very supportive tried and true, very supportive of israel. the population , of israel. the population, everybody is just, you know, all americans pretty much just say, i support israel. and that has been the blanket statement forever. but now, finally, the conversation is shifting. people are pointing out the fact that congress is heavily bought by influence. there's a lot of money pouring in, a lot of
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american money pouring in in support of building the nation of israel rather than building our own country. and a lot of americans are starting to question that. and as they see these atrocities that are being committed by israel in real time on social media, people are then really starting to question the narratives that we were taught on our news programs from the time we were born, which is that israel is this a victim country surrounded by these terrorists that want to kill them? and now we're seeing with social media that it's not that narrative is not exactly true. >> bear with me, kim. tom buick in the studio with me here in london. it is increasingly difficult. i wonder sometimes if it's been an unintended consequence of the most recent events that so many people now are talking about. 1948 are invoking the nakba, are are questioning, at the very least, the way in which the state of israel was founded, because it does, as kim was saying, it
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flies in the face of what we hear on this side of the atlantic. were also invited to think it's not a good look for israel, is it? the unfolding horror in gaza in terms of the unfolding horror, across gaza andindeed unfolding horror, across gaza and indeed across the middle east? >> it's not a good look, neal, but it won't surprise you. i mean, i'll take issue , though, mean, i'll take issue, though, with, you know, your un general assembly point in 1948, the majority of, sovereign nations voted to give, the jewish state a homeland. it's something that the british had promised long before it had a mandate in palestine. so i don't think that's really particularly a fruitful argument to be reopening. i think what we have to get back to and what i was disappointed in terms of the guest contribution, is putting all of the weight on israel. anyone who's been to israel and i have, and i'm not jewish, but
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i have, and i'm not jewish, but ihave i have, and i'm not jewish, but i have jewish friends, who live in israel. this is a democratic state that gives full rights to 2 million arab israelis, and it is a state that if you grow up there with your children, you feel besieged not just by terrorists that are, you know, seeking to basically obliterate your way of life , but by proxy your way of life, but by proxy states around you who are fuelling and aiding and abetting these terrorists. so i don't think it's as one sided as our guest is making out what we've got to get back to. i think in our politics is a two state solution where as well as pressure on israel and the israeli government, there needs to be pressure on the palestinian leadership, whatever that leadership is, because of course, we've got a hamas in the gaza strip. we've got a different leadership with the palestinian authority in west bank. so when are we going to
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see the palestinian leadership stepping up to the challenge of peace ? peace? >> what? see you. kim. you know, tom buick here in the studio saying about that. it's you know, i was i was staying there in my question to tom that a lot of questions have been asked, really for the first time in my lifetime, about about the foundation of the state of israel and everything since, is there, is there also a quid pro quo which would demand different behaviour from the palestinian government? >> i think that the palestinians are rightfully angry and they they have a i think it's reasonable for anybody to be i mean, i understand that there was a mandate in 1948. i understand that that was promised to the jewish people. this had nothing to do with the arab population. that was there. it was the germans. they should have given them part of germany, but they didn't. they instead subjected them to an innocent group of people in the middle east. and i understand the jewish, the desire to go back to the homeland that they're reading about in their in their religious texts. but, but and maybe that is it's maybe a
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fruitless conversation to go back to that we should just focus on the here and now and what's happening to the palestinian people. although i do think the history of it matters to understand exactly how we got to the point where we are today. but to just counter a little bit, the arab population inside of israel, the palestinians living inside of israel do not have equal rights. they have equal basic human rights, but they don't have the same equal national rights, meaning they're not allowed to marry somebody. and a palestinian living inside of israel is not allowed to marry a palestinian that they meet, let's say, 20 minutes away in the west bank, and actually integrate them into israel. however, a jewish israeli is allowed allowed to marry any jew anywhere in the world who's never stepped foot in israel, doesn't live anywhere near that land and able to immigrate them and their entire families in so they don't have the same rights. they don't have administrative detention for the for the jewish israelis , like what they have israelis, like what they have for the arab israelis happening right now, because they think that they might be aiding and abetting terrorists inside of
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palestine. they're suspected terrorists. practically all arabs living inside of israel are right now. so, you know, i, too, have also been to israel, and i've been to the west bank and i've been to the west bank and i've been to the west bank and i've travelled around with the palestinians, going through the palestinians, going through the checkpoints, dealing with the checkpoints, dealing with the military occupation there. and even if israel does give even if you want to argue that israel gives 2 million people inside of israel those rights, they are occupying another group of millions of people who they are not giving equal rights to, who live under completely different laws. and they are 100% under the subject of israel. so it is incumbent upon israel. so it is incumbent upon israel to make the change, not the palestinian people . the palestinian people. >> such a difficult conversation to have, you know, thank you. thank you both for, you know, at least at least having the courage to take part in such a volatile conversation, potentially . kim iverson, you're potentially. kim iverson, you're going to stay with me for, a continued conversation into the second hour of my show. but thank you for the for your contribution and your insights so far . that contribution and your insights so far. that is it for the first hour of the neil oliver show, but stay tuned for the brilliant
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free speech nation following on the old telly box. but we have extra content online. carrying on kim iverson is staying with me. plus, the response to covid and canadian care homes with david dixon and what's gone wrong with legacy media with ralph schollhammer. when we arrive at schollhammer time. don't miss that. i'll see you next week. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. high pressure in charge for the next few days. it stays largely dry and warm. plenty of sunshine though, turns increasingly humid and we see the risk of thunderstorms increasing as we get towards the middle of the week. as this area of low pressure moves in from the south. something to stay tuned to over the coming days. but for the rest of sunday and
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overnight, it's a quiet night to come. plenty of clear skies across england and wales, thicker cloud across northern ireland, perhaps into southern scotland, could give 1 or 2 light showers and temperatures for the vast majority holding up in double figures 12 to 16 celsius to start monday and a dry note for many. if we zoom in to scotland, we can see a cloudier start here, but some sunny spells, a weak weather front bringing some patchy rain across the western isles . a few across the western isles. a few shallow mist and fog patches quickly clearing and again hazy sunshine for northern ireland. northern england as well, but largely dry temperatures in the mid to high teens and plenty of blue skies across the rest of england and wales, and temperatures starting to rise quite quickly as we go through the day, particularly by the afternoon. some strong summer sunshine developing blue skies for the vast majority, isolated chance of a light shower across the borders region. otherwise most places dry this week.
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weather front just slowly pushes into mainland scotland. the far west there, but temperatures holding up generally 2122 in the north to around 25 to 29 across parts of england and wales. so feeling hot in that sunshine dunng feeling hot in that sunshine during the afternoon. another sunny start on tuesday. a weak weather front pushing south may just give a little bit more cloud into northern england. nonh cloud into northern england. north wales otherwise, most places dry once again. an afternoon shower, perhaps over northern ireland, turning increasingly humid as we go through the middle part of the week . temperatures peaking week. temperatures peaking around wednesday . around wednesday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on news
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>> good evening. i'm ray addison
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in the gb newsroom . our top in the gb newsroom. our top stories tonight. protesters have gathered outside downing street and scotland yard demonstrating against the reported arrest of tommy robinson. his supporters say he was detained under anti—terror laws. it comes after anti—terror laws. it comes after a complaint was made after a film was allegedly shown at a central london rally yesterday, in breach of a high court order. two men in their 20s have died after a two seater light aeroplane crashed in a field in thorganby, near selby, north yorkshire police received an emergency call just before 10:00 this morning. it's thought the victims are the pilot and his passenger. their next of kin have been informed and an investigation is underway . investigation is underway. manchester's mayor is urging people to not rush to judgement following thursday's incident at the airport there. andy burnham's comments follow the publication of new video obtained by manchester evening news , which appears to show news, which appears to show a violent altercation in the lead up to a suspect being kicked by a police officer. the constable

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