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in mourning as and southport is in mourning as two children are killed and six are in a critical condition after a knife attack at a taylor swift themed dance class. sophie reaperis swift themed dance class. sophie reaper is there like a scene from a horror story? >> a community rocked, but that's already come together to support those families who have been affected by such a horrific attack . attack. >> and the met has launched an urgent search for a missing six year old girl. houdini was last seen in greenwich last night, and pensioner peril chancellor rachel reeves defends her decision to scrap winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners . and the hate pensioners. and the hate merchant amgen . chaudhry could merchant amgen. chaudhry could face life behind bars as he's sentenced for directing a terrorist organisation would bnng terrorist organisation would bring you the latest on that later today.
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>> so a lot of crime , >> so a lot of crime, unfortunately, we're talking about this morning, but we are going to have a guest who is doing a really amazing work in his area, actually, isn't he chief constable of norfolk, who's got a zero tolerance approach to shoplifting? >> he's had remarkable results. so if he can do it, why can't other . so he's so if he can do it, why can't other. so he's coming on the program to talk to us about that. >> that's right. get in touch this morning. gbnews.com/yoursay first though, the very latest news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> beth thank you. >> beth thank you. >> good morning. it's 931. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. a 17 year old boy remains in custody after yesterday's knife attack in southport, in which two children were killed. six other children are in a critical condition after what was described as a ferocious attack at a taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop. the school holiday club was aimed at children aged 6 to 11 and was fully booked,
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with about 25 young people. two adults are also in critical condition after they bravely tried to stop the attacker. the teenage suspect was arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. police say it's not being treated as terror related and they're not looking for any other suspects, one local resident told gb news. the whole community is in a state of shock. whole community is in a state of shock . it's shocking, absolutely shock. it's shocking, absolutely shocking . shocking. >> i was just saying before i heard the news last night and it didn't get to me. it was really upsetting and it's just one of them things we will never forget. definitely not in my lifetime and lifetimes after that. lifetime and lifetimes after that . i lifetime and lifetimes after that. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history. that. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history . you isn't it? in our history. you know, anything that terrible happens, you know, we all come together. you know, this is just not representative of what merseyside is like. you know, it's a lovely place . it's a lovely place. >> in other news, an urgent search is underway for a six year old girl who's been reported missing from a housing estate in southeast london.
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police say they're extremely concerned for the girl named as houdini after she disappeared from the thamesmead estate in greenwich yesterday. the girl was seen on cctv at around midday and detectives believe she walked out of her house. they're asking locals to search gardens , sheds and other gardens, sheds and other security and doorbell footage . security and doorbell footage. houdini is thought to have been wearing a light pink long sleeve pyjama set and carried a white shoulder bag with a daisy design . shoulder bag with a daisy design. jeremy hunt says he was angered by the chancellor's speech yesterday, which blamed the conservatives for a reported £20 billion black hole in public finances. it's after rachel reeves accused the previous government of covering up the true state of britain's economy, before announcing a series of cuts aimed at saving £5.5 billion. but the shadow chancellor told gb news the new government is shifting the blame perfectly. >> all right to disagree with
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good conservative plans to deal with the challenges on public finances. but what you can't do isjunk finances. but what you can't do is junk the plans that we had in place and then blame the black hole that you have on the previous conservative government and the single most pressing thing, i think for most gb news listeners is the soaring welfare bill. and welfare reform was junked from the king's speech. so, you know, this is a political choice that the new labour government has made. they knew they were going to do it all along , and they should have all along, and they should have been up front about that, not trying to pass the blame on to their predecessors. >> those are the latest gb news headunes >> those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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slash alerts. >> for good morning. hello. welcome to britain's newsroom live across the uk on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce >> well it's bleak isn't it? police have launched an urgent appeal now for a six year old girl who went missing in greenwich, south—east london, south—east london, last night. the force has said that houdini was reported missing from the thames mead estate at 10:40 pm. >> we're looking at the footage here. she was alone on cctv. this is about midday yesterday. people in the thames mead area have been asked to check gardens, sheds and cctv and doorbell footage. >> she's thought to be less than four foot tall and was wearing light pink pyjamas. she had a white shoulder bag with a daisy design with her. worryingly, the house where she lives is pretty close to the river thames. >> yeah . so, do you keep an eye >> yeah. so, do you keep an eye out? and we're going to keep you updated on, hopefully the safe finding of that little girl
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yudin, this morning. we will we will keep you posted . moving on. will keep you posted. moving on. though, a 17 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder after two children died during a ferocious knife attack yesterday. >> nine other children were injured. six of them are in a critical condition after sustaining stab wounds, and also two adults are very seriously injured. to joining us now at the scene is gb news reporter sophie reaper. sophie. morning. this is the morning after the day before , can you tell us what day before, can you tell us what the mood is like there this morning ? morning? >> well, good morning to you both. this is a community now in mourning of course. it's the first week of the summer holidays. it was a taylor swift dance and yoga class. it holidays. it was a taylor swift dance and yoga class . it should dance and yoga class. it should have been a time of happiness and joy here in southport. but instead, it's that of grief. now you can see here behind me, members of the community have been coming out all morning, laying flowers, putting down messages of sympathy and of heartbreak for those families who've been affected , either the
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who've been affected, either the families of those two children who sadly died or the others who have been injured, six of whom remaining in a critical condition. now, this is the kind of community that always comes together at this kind of time. and there's also been a lot of support for the police here on the scene. you can see the cordon here behind me . that's cordon here behind me. that's because the space where we believe this attack was carried out is about 100m away behind me. so they've marked off the entire area. but the police have been here on site ever since. so the community all morning have been doing what they can to support those officers. they've provided them with energy drinks with water. one lady even coming out in the last hour to offer them bacon sandwiches. so plenty of support from the community, but also plenty of grief. we spoke to one man earlier who had come all the way from liverpool jul in office in to order offer his condolences to those families and to lay some flowers here behind me. this is what he had to tell me. >> it's shocking. absolutely shocking. i was just saying before i heard the news last
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night and it didn't get to me. it was really upsetting and it's just one of them things we will never forget, definitely not in my lifetime. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history. you know, anything that terrible happens, you know, we all come together. you know, this is just not representative of what merseyside is like. you know, it's a lovely place , i've it's a lovely place, i've travelled up here, you know, 17 odd miles and going 17 miles back just to lay flowers, you know, because it's just affected us so much. and i wish he'd come over now . over how. >> over now. >> now you can hear there in his voice, the emotion can't you? and that is, i think, something that's going to be replicated across the merseyside region and beyond over the coming hours, the coming days, even the coming weeks, as this community come to terms with such a brutal and ferocious knife attack right in the heart of their community. >> okay. thank you. sophie sophie reaper there in southport. well, joining us now is our gb news home and security edhon is our gb news home and security editor, mark white. we're just
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seeing pictures online, mark, of the teachers at this taylor swift themed dance. occasion, one of whom is in a critical condition. another one, injured. what else do we know about the victims at this stage? >> well , we know that the >> well, we know that the majority were young girls , that majority were young girls, that those two adults who were critically injured had come to their defence, had tried to do their defence, had tried to do the very best they could to fight off a vicious and brutal attack. and as a consequence of ended up in a very serious condition in hospital. it's unimaginable. to, you know, put yourself in the shoes of these, adults trying their very best to protect these little ones from this onslaught, >> and, mark, there's a lot of, we can't say people might be wondering why we're not saying more about the person who's been
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arrested. he's 17. can you arrested. he's17. can you explain? so people can understand? why were you not naming him? and why we're not going into more detail? >> well, quite simply , it's the >> well, quite simply, it's the law. and we'd be breaking the law. and we'd be breaking the law and we'd get into very serious trouble because he's 17, serious trouble because he's17, he's classed as a child . he's he's classed as a child. he's a child under the age of 18. and of course, any child enjoys special protection under the law is deeply frustrating, as that might be for the general public to hear, and normally what would happenis to hear, and normally what would happen is that someone , when happen is that someone, when they are charged with a crime, if they're an adult, they would be named at that point. but because this is a 17 year old, even at that point , if it gets even at that point, if it gets to the point where this individual is charged , we won't individual is charged, we won't have a name revealed when it goes to trial. and if this person is successfully convicted of that trial, of that charge or charges, then it is not even,
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possible, but very likely that the judge would pass an order naming that person even though they are under the age of 18. at that point, we've seen it before, multiple occasions, with 17, 16, 15 and even younger individuals that have subsequently been named. once the prosecution is over . subsequently been named. once the prosecution is over. and also we should mention as well that the issue around not naming someone before they're charged really stems from the westminster paedophile scandal, when a fantasist made up all these allegations, naming high profile individuals, some who went to their graves with these allegations hanging over them. and it was subsequently found out that they were completely baseless. and since then there have been very strict rules about what the press and the media can say in terms of naming an individual before they're charged. but frustratingly, as i say, for the audience, even when
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we get to the point, if this person is charged , we won't be person is charged, we won't be able to name them until it reaches a conviction. >> is there any sense we can say about this 17 year old, for instance, we know, don't we, that he was born in cardiff? is that he was born in cardiff? is that right? >> yeah. the elephant in the room here is the issue of this person's immigration status. it's all over social media suggesting that this person was an immigrant and asylum seeker, the that really forced the hands of the police in merseyside to release a statement later clarifying and saying that he was born in cardiff. now it's our understanding that he comes from an immigrant family but was born in cardiff . but again, you born in cardiff. but again, you know, the on social media, the rumour mill is swirling around. i saw widely shared reports yesterday naming, a person. i don't know if it's that person or not, but then saying that
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this person came over on a small boat last year across the engush boat last year across the english channel. well, clearly that couldn't have been the case. yeah, it's demonstrably untrue because of what the merseyside police have said. unless you think they're lying. and of course, some people, some people are very suspicious of authorities. they they do believe that the, the, the authorities right across the country are actively conceal elements of on going cases, from the public. and i think that really stems back to the, the lies of the, the child grooming scandals that we've seen in northern towns like rochdale. that went back decades, where these young girls were ignored because of community sensibilities. when the majority of the perpetrators were pakistani heritage males. and there has been a growing distrust of the police and other law law enforcement authorities and social services and the like
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ever since then. and that's only grown , but the police are very grown, but the police are very clear in their statement that this young man was born in cardiff. all right, so clearly it didn't come across on a boat. >> okay. keep us posted on the cctv footage of this missing girl uddin in south east london. thatis girl uddin in south east london. that is still a hunt. is underway. and also developments up in southport. >> up next. there is, of course, fury after the chancellor announced she's scrapping the child. the winter fuel support for around 10 million pensioners. they can't all be rich, can they? you're with britain's newsroom on gb news
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scrapped winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners as part of her mission to save £55 billion. >> so we're joined by former labour mp shaun simon and charity director for age uk caroline abrahams, shaun simon. if we can go to you first. this is nobody saw this coming. this is nobody saw this coming. this is not going to target wealthy pensioners like the king and tony blair. a great i know you're a great admirer of his pensioners who were earning perhaps only have an income of £200. are going to lose this money. can you defend that? really >> well, what's happening is that a universal benefit which everybody gets, however much money every pensioner gets, however much money they've got, is being targeted instead . so is being targeted instead. so the king won't get it anymore. tony blair won't get it. pensioners that don't need it won't get it . and instead, won't get it. and instead, because there is an existing benefit that is targeted on pensioners pensions credit, that that's actually a useful
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mechanism when if it can be made to work properly to target the benefit on pensioners that actually do need it, because surely none of us want to be paying surely none of us want to be paying benefits to rich people who don't need it . who don't need it. >> yeah, but but hang on, sean, are you suggesting the 10 million pensioners who are going to lose this benefit are rich people who don't need it? are there really that many rich pensioners in this country? >> so i think from what i've read in the in the papers, i think ath is saying it's talking about 2 million pensioners potentially who , who pensioners potentially who, who are, who are too rich or who are not claiming pension credit, are, who are too rich or who are not claiming pension credit , who not claiming pension credit, who will not get this benefit and might and might suffer. and, and i think that is an area that needs to be looked at that if there's a as according to age uk , there's a as according to age uk, there's a as according to age uk, there is if there's a problem with the take up of pensions credit and that will have a knock on problem that that pensioners should be claiming pensioners should be claiming pension credit and are not, don't get a therefore
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accidentally targeted by this , accidentally targeted by this, then i think that is something that the government needs to look at. but i think the chancellor did say in her statement yesterday that they would this would include measures to try and work to improve the take up of pension credit. >> caroline from age uk right. a lot to tackle there. first of all, of course millionaires like tony blair don't need the fuel credit. i think we would all agree. but it sounds like the parameters of this are very, very narrow and there will be elderly people who don't want to claim credit for their self—esteem and their their personal sense of worth, who will also be worse off. >> yeah . well. good morning, >> yeah. well. good morning, sean kind of made my case for me. really, yes. we don't dispute the fact that there are people who can afford to forgo this benefit, and they really won't miss it, people who are very well off, of course. and that. so we're not protesting about that at all. our problem, as sean really pointed out, is that there are too many people
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who are vulnerable or on very low incomes who will be quite badly hurt by this change. and another problem is that it's coming in very quickly. it's coming in very quickly. it's coming in very quickly. it's coming in this winter. coming in very quickly. it's coming in this winter . so people coming in this winter. so people haven't had a chance to prepare or put any more money aside, for example, which i think a lot of older people would have done had they known that they were going to be losing this money. it also comes on top of the loss of the of the additional payments the government's were giving over the last two years with the cost of living crisis. that's another £300 that older people aren't going to get, and there are groups partly it's the issue about take up that is a real problem. it's been awful forever. and we just haven't ever managed to get it any better. so it's a problem about that. there's another group too. hasn't been talked about so much which are people who who on the face of it, you know, you look at how much income they've got. you think, oh, they ought to be okay. but actually they're living in homes which are really hard to heat because they, they, you know, they're not they're not properly insulated and they're people who are very unwell and need to have the
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temperature up high. so people like that, actually have very , like that, actually have very, very high energy bills. and they would have really made use of this money as well. so those are our worries. and we put all those groups together, people who don't claim, people who are just above the line, people who are unwell in energy, leaky houses. it's probably about 2 million people who are really going to be hurt by this, unfortunately. >> and could it become as as blunt as this ? caroline, could blunt as this? caroline, could it be a question of heating or eating for some of those pensioners? if we have a cold winter ? winter? >> absolutely. undoubtedly. i'm not. you know , i'm not shroud not. you know, i'm not shroud waving. i'm being honest. yes, we know that happens anyway. and it will just make it. it will either make it more intense for some people or for the first time, some people will be faced with those dilemmas because really, heating and your fuel bills, if you're an older person, is a huge part of what you spend your money on. when you spend your money on. when you get older, particularly through the winter, and there isn't very much else you can cut. so yes, i'm outwardly to people rationing their heating. what we worry about and we saw we've seen this for the last few
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years is that lots of old people really don't want to go into debt , and so they'll do really don't want to go into debt, and so they'll do anything to avoid it. and so if they know that there's going to be a problem paying their energy bills, yeah, they will ration. >> sean, just sorry, we're just short of time. but sean, just briefly, ed miliband was very excited about giving £11 billion to overseas green projects. what does this tell us about labour's priorities ? priorities? >> i don't think i think i think you misunderstood. >> if you think ed miliband is giving £11 billion to overseas green projects, but it is true that , in, in green projects, but it is true that, in, in order to be able to pay any that, in, in order to be able to pay any benefits to anybody, the, the, the nation needs to generate wealth , doesn't it? and generate wealth, doesn't it? and that's something that we haven't been doing in this country. not really, since the financial crisis of 2008 and the tory government for 14 years, and certainly not since before the pandemic. growth in the uk has
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never recovered from the pandemic, even though it has in all other major economies. okay and it won't have money. >> we've been . >> we've been. >> we've been. >> i'm so sorry, both of you. we've been beaten by the clock . we've been beaten by the clock. sean simon, former labour mp, and caroline abrahams from age uk. don't go anywhere. i need a quick take, a quick break. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. it's going to be another very hot day, likely hotter today than yesterday. dry and sunny for most of us and it will stay warm and humid overnight as well. there's still a weak weather front across north western areas, bringing some hazier sunshine to parts of northern ireland, northern england into parts of wales through this morning. that will sink southwards slowly through the day into central areas of england, bringing the hazy sunshine here. but elsewhere long lived strong sunshine and it will feel very warm indeed .
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it will feel very warm indeed. as i said, hotter today than yesterday. 32 degrees is possible in the south and east. could be the hottest day of the year so far. widely though, we're in the mid to high 20s across england and wales , and it across england and wales, and it is going to be a hotter day for parts of scotland and northern ireland. two across the far north of scotland, though the northern isles we've got a bit of a brisk breeze. the risk of the odd shower here dry though elsewhere across scotland, temperatures still in the 20s this evening to northern ireland as well. a bit more cloud around, particularly across southeastern areas that hazier sunshine into central areas of england and wales. but across the south coast, temperatures still in the high 20s this evening. if you are heading to the beach, sea temperatures are around 18 degrees across the south coast at the moment. now, as we head into wednesday, it should stay dry overnight. we've still got high pressure dominating our weather. there will be a bit of mist and fog developing here and there and across the north of scotland. it will still stay fairly fresh overnight temperatures still dipping down into the single figures a different story further south. temperatures in
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the mid to high teens and the humidity starting to increase overnight tonight. and that's because we've got this threat of thunderstorms coming ever closer from the near continent that may affect the olympics through wednesday and into thursday. more likely, we'll see that thunderstorm risk in the uk through thursday, but there is a risk through wednesday afternoon and into the evening away from that thunderstorm risk, low temperatures still in the mid 20s and the high 30s are still possible . have a great day. possible. have a great day. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb. news >> when it's 10:00 on tuesday, the 30th of july live across the uk, this is britain's newsroom with andrew pearson bev turner the holiday club horace southport in mourning. >> two children killed, six in critical condition, as well as two adults after that appalling knife attack at a taylor swift
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themed dance class, will hollis has more . has more. >> well, we know that last night the major incident was stepped down by alder hey children's hosphal down by alder hey children's hospital, but with six children in critical condition and a further two adults, we're waiting on updates after the southport attack . southport attack. >> pensioners potentially imperil this winter. chancellor rachel reeves defends her decision to scrap winter fuel payments for millions of elderly, and that vile hate merchant anjum chaudhry could face life behind bars. >> good as he's sentenced for directing a terrorist organisation. we'll bring you the latest on that later today and back to basics policing. >> we're going to speak to norfolk constabulary about their no nonsense approach to shoplifting and being the best force in the country at catching and prosecuting those who shoplift . how are they doing it ? shoplift. how are they doing it? >> and get your sun cream on fat
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to 50 and your shades. today could be the hottest day of the year so far, with highs of 32 degrees. woo . degrees. woo. >> you sounded really thrilled about that. >> i should have gone. >> i should have gone. >> woo hooi >> woo hooi >> you sound like a sadiq khan. get your facts 50. oh, we'll try and find you. the statement from sadiq khan. basically talking to you like you're idiots about the fact that if you're hot, you can find a place in london which might be cool, and they've got a list of places on the website that might be cool . that might be cool. >> can you drink? >> can you drink? >> apparently drink lots of water. put your sunblock on. wow. who'd have thought it? >> who'd have thought it? anyway? let us know your thoughts. this morning. gbnews.com/yoursay. first, though, the very latest news headunes though, the very latest news headlines with sophia. >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's 10:02. i'm sophia >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's10:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. some
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breaking news in the last few minutes. a six year old girl who went missing from south—east london estate has been found. it's after houdini was reported missing from a housing estate in greenwich, late yesterday. she was seen in cctv footage at around midday walking out of her house. greenwich police say they're very pleased to report that the six year old has been found safe and well. they thanked everyone who shared the appeal. thanked everyone who shared the appeal . a 17 year old boy appeal. a 17 year old boy remains in custody after yesterday's knife attack in southport , in which two children southport, in which two children were killed. six other children are in a critical condition after what was described as a ferocious attack at a taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop . two adults are also in workshop. two adults are also in critical condition after they bravely tried to stop the attacker. the teenage suspect was arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. police say the attack is not being treated as terror related, and they're not looking for any
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other suspects, one local resident told gb news. the whole community is in a state of shock. it's shocking, absolutely shocking. >> i was just saying before i heard the news last night and it did not get to me. it was really upsetting and it's just one of them things we will never forget. definitely not in my lifetime and lifetimes after that. lifetime and lifetimes after that . i lifetime and lifetimes after that. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history. that. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history . you isn't it? in our history. you know, anything that terrible happens, you know, we all come together. you know, this is just not representative of what merseyside is like. you know, it's a lovely place . it's a lovely place. >> jeremy hunt says he was angered by the chancellor's speech yesterday, which blamed the conservatives for reported £20 billion black hole in public finances. it's after rachel reeves accused the previous government of covering up the true state of britain's economy, before announcing a series of cuts aimed at saving £5.5 billion. but the shadow chancellor told gb news the new government is shifting the blame perfectly. >> all right to disagree with
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good conservative plans to deal with the challenges on public finances. but what you can't do isjunk finances. but what you can't do is junk the plans that we had in place, and then blame the black hole that you have on the previous conservative government and the single most pressing thing, i think for most gb news listeners is the soaring welfare bill. and welfare reform was junked from the king's speech so, you know, this is a political choice that the new labour government has made . they labour government has made. they knew they were going to do it all along and they should have been up front about that, not trying to pass the blame on to their predecessors. >> now, the first public hearing in a long awaited public inquiry into the omagh bomb will start later. the probe is led by chairman lord turnbull and will examine whether the atrocity could reasonably have been prevented by authorities . the prevented by authorities. the bombing, which was carried out by dissident republicans in
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1998, killed 29 people, including a woman who was pregnant with twins. today's heanng pregnant with twins. today's hearing marks the first time that all of the bereaved families will come together. in other news, two just stop oil protesters have been arrested at heathrow airport on suspicion of criminal damage. it comes after orange paint was sprayed on passenger information screens and on the floor inside the airport's terminal five. police remain at the scene this morning as a precaution while they deal with any further offences . in with any further offences. in paris, the men's triathlon event was this morning cancelled just hours before it was due to start due to pollution in the river seine. the race was due to start at 8:00 this morning. swimming training sessions were also cancelled on sunday and monday because of the water quality. a statement from world triathlon said they're monitoring the water quality. contingency plans are in place in case pollution levels don't improve. the race
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scheduled for this morning will now take place tomorrow following the end of the women's race. and today could be the hottest day of the year so far, with temperatures in some areas expected to soar beyond 32 degrees. the met office says some places in england and wales are likely to exceed the criteria needed to define a heatwave, but you'd be best make the most of it. thunderstorms are predicted to break the heat later this week . those are the later this week. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> welcome back to britain's newsroom across the uk on gb newsroom across the uk on gb news of me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, what are your tips for
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keeping cool? well, i think i've pretty know how much to keep cool. you put your sunblock on, dnnk cool. you put your sunblock on, drink some water, go in the shade , sit down, lie down, wear shade, sit down, lie down, wear a cap . a cap. >> well, listen, alan, we were taking the mickey out of sadiq khan issuing. >> why wouldn't you? >> why wouldn't you? >> these, very strict advice about how to keep cool. >> i mean, talk about how to do with the mayor of london. >> talk about an idiot's guide. right. quite well, alan, who's gb news members got in touch. they're not the biggest fan of khan, but he might have a point, really. he said my mum went on a day trip yesterday and she collapsed and was taken to a&e. it was found she was suffering from heat exhaustion and was dehydrated. apparently not everyone is as clued up as you and me, apparently. i'm sorry to hear that, walter. >> yeah, i'm sorry to tell you. >> yeah, i'm sorry to tell you. >> mom's all right. yeah, maybe. >> mom's all right. yeah, maybe. >> maybe if you are elderly, you've not been used to these conditions that help. but come on, come on. i think people are generally not stupid. >> we've had hot, hot spells for quite a few years now. >> of course we have. and also talk about the opposite end of the spectrum. the winter fuel payment says shorty, has gone fine . now let's get rid of the fine. now let's get rid of the subsidised bar and restaurant and the mps heating allowances
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at house of commons. good point and you know, i mentioned that £11.11 billion that ed miliband has given. >> well, you were wrong because it's 12. >> yeah. correct. it's £11.6 billion that we have committed to the climate. here we go. ed miliband said we must lead by example with action starting at home, clean power mission. he goes on about that and then he says our commitment, our £11.6 billion commitment to international climate , sending a international climate, sending a powerful signal to the world that we are serious about the leadership. so basically, this is us committing, yeah, to help other countries, but we can't generate green energy , give generate green energy, give a pension who may be surviving on £200 a week. >> we can't afford to give them the winter fuel allowance. 10 million pensioners are going to lose their winter fuel allowance. of course, the rich ones. how many rich pensioners are there? not that many. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> should lose it. and i think that's right. but means testing is always complicated and it's actually often very expensive to enforce.
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>> but it's also this idea that they are going to give you your winter fuel allowance only if you're claiming the benefit . you're claiming the benefit. yeah. and then the pensioner tax credit, the pensioner tax credit and lots of people pensioners won't because they either don't know about it or they find the whole thing too demeaning . whole thing too demeaning. >> right. >> right. >> and what does it say about labour that they say, well, you know, just just come and ask us for more money. we'll just give you a bit more money, but not you a bit more money, but not you lot, but we'll give it to you lot, but we'll give it to you lot. >> and the suspicion, of course, is they're doing this because most of the tory vote last time came from people who were in receipt of pensions. >> that's right. and janet said a little bit of good news that the missing little girl has been is terrific news. >> only six went missing at midday and they found her, the police have announced this morning when we get more details, we'll let you have them. >> right. keep your messages coming this morning. >> right. keep your messages coming this morning . so a 17 coming this morning. so a 17 year old boy, young man, officially a boy , has been officially a boy, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder after two children died during this ferocious knife attack yesterday. >> as you know, nine others were injured. six are in a critical condition after sustaining stab
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wounds at that taylor swift themed dance class. two adults were trying to protect. the children are also in a critical condition. we understand one of them is the yoga teacher. >> we're looking at one of the pictures of one of the injured ladies here, we think this is the woman who was actually running the course there. i mean , running the course there. i mean, wonderful, these this is this is she's called leanne lucas . she's called leanne lucas. >> she's 35, and she's a yoga dance teacher . lovely looking dance teacher. lovely looking girl. and she apparently she went to the aid of the children, helped to get 16 of them out of the class before, he could do any more damage . yes. any more damage. yes. >> so joining us now is our reporter, will hollis, who is at alder hey children's hospital, where the victims have been taken for treatment. good morning. will, what's the latest ? morning. will, what's the latest? >> good morning. yes, well, this hospital, alder hey, about 40 minutes away from southport. here in liverpool works specifically to treat children . specifically to treat children. and yesterday a major incident was declared after that attack in nearby southport that has
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since been stepped down. so the situation has started to calm here. that was late last night at about 9:00, but after that announcement from the chief constable at merseyside police that two children were dead, we haven't had any sort of update since, so we think that six children are still in a critical condition as well as two adults. other children as well still have injuries inflicted by those stab wounds. what's happening today? well, we know that yvette cooper , the home secretary, is cooper, the home secretary, is visiting to lay wreaths in southport and the community is still reeling from the effect of what happened in what is quite a sleepy seaside town. what started out as, as you say, a taylor swift dance club at the start of the summer holidays. quickly descended into pandemonium and panic when a man armed with a knife came in and started to stab children. the
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police say that they have arrested a 17 year old male , and arrested a 17 year old male, and they've been questioning him in interviews, trying to figure out what a motive is for somebody to do something like this. but right now we are still waiting on updates from the police. we're still waiting on updates from the trust that runs alder hey, but we know the response to what happened yesterday was great. eyewitnesses that were here on the ground at the time said that air ambulance crews brought some of the victims here as well. so we can only imagine what it was like here yesterday. but we know it's a little bit calmer today. but inside there are still children fighting for their lives in that critical condition. >> all right. that's will hollis. thanks for that. who's at alder hey children's hospital joining us now, sally baker who is a trauma therapist. sally the good morning to you. the trauma that that that community is going through must be on the
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richter scale. yeah unbelievable. >> yeah. and unimaginable. really. i mean, there are echoes here of dunblane, but this is so outside of what ordinary people would experience . so when you're would experience. so when you're in the midst of a tragedy, what we have now is, the first early stages of grief, which are around shock and trying to find answers and trying to make sense of it all. but as a mom and a grandma, i mean, this is everyone's absolute worst nightmare with small children as involved as well. terrible sally parents. >> because of course trauma can come in many different, shapes and forms, can't it? yes. not often as extreme as this, but what should parents do in the immediate aftermath of something like this ? like this? >> well, the community will close because they need to comfort each other and the shared experience. it's like ripples on a lake. so we're
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quite removed from this event. but perhaps geographically, or because we don't know the people involved, but, you know, we still feel it. and when the children are at home, so they'll be picking it up on the news, children will be feeling very anxious. so it's really important that mothers and fathers and, primary carers go in and reassure their children. this is such a rare occurrence and they need to be told that they're safe. they they're going to be feeling very unsafe. so just reassuring all of our young people that they're safe and also, of course, the first responders, the emergency workers, the paramedics who might have just been normally turning up to maybe somebody, you know, injured in their home or having a health issue unprecedented for them in southport, lovely coastal merseyside town to arrive at a scene to see children on their summer holidays who've been dropped off at a dance workshop. >> and as we've heard , it's
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>> and as we've heard, it's looking like a movie scene . looking like a movie scene. almost too surreal to countenance that it could be real. what will it be like for those paramedics? >> it's almost not the time for trauma work quite yet, because they need to process as much as they need to process as much as they can themselves first, and then get external support . then get external support. because it's so fresh, it's so raw. they'll get flashbacks, they'll have panic attacks, they themselves. perhaps they'll also disassociate . that's a very disassociate. that's a very common occurrence. the closer to the event, what people witnessed, what people heard and saw and knowing people involved, the stronger those ptsd trauma responses will be. but this is going to take time and it can't be rushed . it can't be rushed. be rushed. it can't be rushed. >> yeah, sorry. >> yeah, sorry. >> i was going to say without without speculating about the perpetrator is the evidence always suggest that people who do carry out these acts of violence and this is by no means
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to excuse such behaviour or have themselves at some point been exposed to some sort of violent trauma themselves. >> it's not necessarily that they've been exposed to violent trauma, but clearly whoever perpetrated this is this young man has extreme mental health issues. this is nothing that a sane person would ever do . so sane person would ever do. so whatever his background, wherever he's from, he has extreme mental health issues that will need to be addressed. we need to find out what motivated him, what made him do this. but this is not the act of a sane person . this person is a sane person. this person is very, very deeply unwell. >> sally, you mentioned at the beginning you don't know why yet. you mentioned at the beginning dunblane, and i was just looking at dunblane, just to remind people that took place in a little primary school near stirling in scotland in 96, when thomas hamilton killed 16 pupils and one teacher and injured 15 others. and of course, andy murray, who's playing in the olympics. yeah, playing in the olympics. yeah, playing in the olympic games today. he was one of the little boys who was one of the little boys who was one of the little boys who was one of the lucky ones, wasn't he?
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>> he was. and there'll be, you know, there'll be lots of received guilt about feeling that, oh, i didn't send my child that, oh, i didn't send my child that day, or my child was one of the 16 that the dance teacher managed to save, you know , it managed to save, you know, it the whole this whole thing, this whole event is going to echo through the years. we still remember dunblane. it's still commented about in the press. anniversaries are still kept. this is going to be another event that marks our country. and it's so unusual for us. thankfully, that it's this is not going to go away. this is this is going to ripple out for a long time. >> sally, your your trauma therapist. so what kind of therapies can you use with people in the fullness of time who've been exposed to trauma? and how successful can you be? >> it can be very successful traumas held in the reptilian part of the brain. it's the oldest part of our brain, so it's no good intellectually telling yourself , oh, well, that telling yourself, oh, well, that was then and this is now, and i'm okay now. it's stuck in your
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reptilian brain. so that's where i focus my work. and i use a technique called brainwave recursive therapy, which is a bit of a mouthful that has been trialled in the nhs with frontline workers. as you mentioned , about paramedics. so mentioned, about paramedics. so with bwt, within 3 to 6 sessions you can target, the event and completely kind of erase the emotional attachment to the event. no one forgets what happened, but what you want is to be able to function and to thrive in the face of tragedy, and not make it mark your life forever more. >> so a little bit on what that involves. what does that actually involve? is it a talking therapy with hypnosis ? talking therapy with hypnosis? >> no, it's not really a talking therapy. it's a process where you ask people to home in, i mean, with cbt, for instance, or even emdr with emdr, which is used for trauma , people have to used for trauma, people have to forensically unpick the experience that they went through. so i often see clients
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who come to me and say, i failed at emdr because i can't do it. i can't go back minute by minute to that event that ruined my childhood or ruined my life or that accident. so they with bw bw t you only need to focus on the most demanding , challenging the most demanding, challenging parts of those events for a seconds, okay? and then the process takes over and it's each round of bw , it takes about 25 round of bw, it takes about 25 minutes, but after about 4 or 5 rounds, the intensity of emotions can go from a ten down to a zero. and that's the goal. the work's not done till it's down to a zero. and that can that can be achieved. >> fantastic. thank you sally . >> fantastic. thank you sally. fascinating. sally baker there. trauma therapist. you did regression hypnosis about your adoptive mother, didn't i? did i did, and i did something called eft where my husband got hit by a truck off the road on his bicycle . the moment that i bicycle. the moment that i couldn't that always upset me. was getting the phone call. so when the phone rang, i was in a
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hotel and a phone rang at 530 in the morning, and i just knew. and i was fine with everything that happened. i coped like people do, but i kept coming back to that moment when the phone rang. so i went and had some eft and it really clicked. cured it. >> it's when your life changed. >> it's when your life changed. >> yeah, it took the phone call, but that. >> so i knew that was the moment i had to focus on. and i and i did this eft, which is like a tapping therapy. it's called emotional freedom technique and it's a talking, but it's all a bit it sounds a bit woo woo, but it worked really, really well. and it just shifted the emotion. otherwise you get stuck if you're not careful in those moments. >> and you have to hope that at some point in that community, they have someone like sally baker to talk to. >> they can do good work right? don't go we' re we're expecting to from the home secretary any minute now about
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gentlemen . right. what shall we gentlemen. right. what shall we start with? shall we start with this? scrapping the winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners. yeah nigel, is this a good idea? >> the politics of it are madness. >> yeah, it's more the economics of it, though. and i think that the 10 million pensioners, many of them are just on £200 a week. >> that is not a lot. and losing their fuel allowance. yeah. i mean you're giving a 22% pay rise to pretty well off junior doctors. >> bear in mind that the poorest pensioners are protected. so if you are on benefits and pension credit are the important thing is pensioners. you haven't appued is pensioners. you haven't applied for pension credit but are eligible for it should do so now to actually protect this, they they will be they'll be okay. the ones on the margins just a moment ago said on this programme, 2 million pensioners will have to choose between heating and heating. and i know that. i mean obviously age uk are pretty angry about it. i mean pensioners will be angry about it , so i mean pensioners will be angry about it, so i do i do get that. all i'm saying is that your
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poorest pensioners won't be affected. there will be a problem on the margins, which is what i imagine that age uk are worried about. i mean, there was an alternative to it. what you could do is roll in the winter fuel allowance into the pension and you could tax it. so that would mean that richer pensioners would effectively lose lose that, but it wouldn't raise the kind of money that rachel reeves needed . and by rachel reeves needed. and by next year you're talking about 1.7 billion. according to her figures, that she will actually be able to get back. >> i don't get the politics of it at all, pierce. do you? >> well, no, i mean, rachel reeves yesterday, most of what she spouted was absurd. as vic reeves, i thought it was absolutely preposterous. and also the money she's it was backed up by the obr. don't forget the obr. yes. we love the obr. but come back to that. but, she did promise before during the election of cutting people's
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energy bills and instead she's taking money away from people and £300 a year. and with miliband's ludicrous pie in the sky lunatic energy, it's not even a policy because none of it's funded or costed. none of it's funded or costed. none of it adds up. it's all costeros. it's madness. and incidentally, there's 20 billion given the government spends 1.2 trillion, 20 billion is neither here nor there really . and also a large there really. and also a large part of that 20 billion comes from these absurd pay rises she's announced for on behalf of her union paymasters. >> and when pierces is not costed. look, we've got gb energy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> which is going to cost about 8.5 billion. >> 8.5 billion. so that's cost it. >> but but but he did tell us dunng >> but but but he did tell us during the election campaign pierce is right. we were going to get a £300 cut in our energy bill every year. no sign. i'm not sure. >> they said they said every year they they talked about by the end of the parliament you'd
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be looking at around about £300 every year. >> and we're not even sure who said every year, look at some of the election literature. >> yeah. i mean, i think that there was the, the then shadow minister who made a bit of a mistake about that, was talking about averages and so on, which it's not it's up to up to £300 by the end of the parliament. so in five years time, it's unlikely you'll see immediate cuts. you've got to get gb energy off the ground, you've got to start building well eight and a half, one half billion as you pointed out. you've then got to actually build the wind farms. now normally wind farm would take 10 to 15 years to build labour's say. and i don't know how they're going to do it. but labour say they can cut that down to five years, but they haven't got the expertise in this country to do all this . this country to do all this. >> they'd have to use foreign workers in order to do this and foreign technology at the same time. they're going to stop at 200,000 jobs in the north sea. and also this 8.6 million figure, 650,000, the jobs in
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green industry , the eight green industry, the eight wherefrom not in britain. we don't have the expertise. the 8.5 billion. they this is a number that miliband plucked out of thin air. i mean, what's that going to achieve? it's not going to salt our energy problems for the foreseeable future. well it's madness, insanity and every single commentator has, has , single commentator has, has, agreed with me on this, that this great british energy policy. i think you'll find , is policy. i think you'll find, is the death knell of this government. and don't forget , government. and don't forget, this government was only it may have a majority in seats, but only 37% of the vote. and only 60% of the country voted. but they are if they're not actually supporting five years and over. >> maybe. and so maybe you're absolutely right. this won't happen overnight. you are talking about getting the benefits of this in five years time. it probably will actually show at the next general
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election, and certainly not before that. they won't have it donein before that. they won't have it done in five years. >> it's nonsense. >> it's nonsense. >> the benefits aren't for five years, and yet we're taking £200 off pensioners now to help with their fuel bills. and yet the benefits aren't going to come for five years. this is going to make pensioners fuel bills more expensive. well, and what if we have a cold winter? >> well we are well first of all that there is going to be an increase in the energy cap by the end of the year in october. that you're looking at about another £200 on the energy cap . another £200 on the energy cap. so yes, there are problems one hand, the other hand , one hand, hand, the other hand, one hand, the other hand. but i do think that and not a single shred in in rachel reeves speech yesterday about creating growth , yesterday about creating growth, they throw the word growth and prosperity around two words and throw them around all the time. >> but they haven't done anything to encourage growth. and what they're going to do in october is, is hit this economy even more hit investment hit, savers put up corporation tax, put up capital gains tax. they're going to do the most. and also wealthy individuals,
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wealthy investment people who invest in this country are taking their money out right now and going elsewhere. >> we should get we should be able to start getting growth through gb energy. the whole point. nonsense. absolutely. if you just take whether you believe believe in net zero or not, if you just take that out of the can i just say i don't, i do not. i knew, i knew you didn't. yeah. i'm just take taking taking that out of the equation. you're talking about creating a whole new industry at the moment. our offshore wind for instance. most of it is not owned by the uk. it's owned by germany and malaysia. the idea is that britain will start to own the, the factors of production and therefore start making a profit from that. even jeremy hunt admits or admitted last year that if we get this right, there's £1 trillion worth of business for the uk out there. and that comes from green technology. >> okay, gentlemen. right. we need to go to the news. but we
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didn't even get on to the fact that we know for a fact now that the vat on private schools is going to be in january. so we can i also want to talk about this bill scrapping free speech. >> okay. >> okay. >> here is sophia wenzler waiting very patiently with the . news. >> bev thank you. good morning. it's 1031. >> bev thank you. good morning. it's1031. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. a 17 year old boy remains in custody after yesterday's knife attack in southport, in which two children were killed. six other children and two adults are in a critical condition after what was described as a ferocious attack at a taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop, police say the attack is not being treated as terror related and they're not looking for any other suspects. a six year old girl who went missing from south—east london yesterday has now been found. houdini went missing in greenwich late
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yesterday. greenwich police say they're very pleased to report she's safe and well, and thanked everyone who shared the appeal to just stop oil . protesters to just stop oil. protesters have been arrested at heathrow airport on suspicion of criminal damage. it comes after orange paint was sprayed on passenger information screens and on the floor inside the airport's terminal five. police remain at the scene this morning as a precaution while they deal with any further offences in paris, the men's triathlon event was this morning cancelled just hours before it was due to start due to pollution in the river seine, a statement from world triathlon say they're monitoring the water quality and contingency plans are in place in case pollution levels don't improve. the race is now scheduled for tomorrow morning and today could be the hottest day of the year, so far, with temperatures in some areas expected to soar . beyond 32
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expected to soar. beyond 32 degrees. the met office says some places in england and wales are likely to exceed the criteria defined for a heatwave, but you'd be best to make the most of it. thunderstorms are predicted to break the heat later in the week . those are the later in the week. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and here's financial report, and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you $1.2861 and ,1.1872. the price of gold is £1,857, and £0.87 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 8254 points. >> cheers, britannia wine club
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proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> still to come, if you're sick and tired of shoplifters and petty criminals getting an easy ride and who isn't ? frankly, ride and who isn't? frankly, wait until you hear how police in norfolk taking a very different approach. this is britain's newsroom
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.gb news. welcome back. 1037 this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> well , britain's newsroom on gb news. >> well, norfolk constabulary has topped the table for bringing shoplifters to justice, with nearly half of all store thefts solved. >> that means it is the best performing force for catching and prosecuting shoplifters with and prosecuting shoplifters with a charging rate six times that of bottom ranked metropolitan police. >> so how are they managing it? well the chief constable there is known as mr back to basics and we're delighted to say we can talk to him now. he is paul
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sandford chief constable. good morning to you . congratulations morning to you. congratulations shopkeepers. the length and breadth of the country will be thinking can you now move away from norfolk and come to our part of the world because police forces are not taking it seriously? how have you taken it seriously? how have you taken it seriously? and how have you managed to break it so successfully? >> good morning andrew. good morning bev, i think the first thing i'd say is we take all crime seriously. we? crime is our priority. we focus on the things that we believe the pubuc things that we believe the public want us to do. well, let's answer the phone quickly. get the jobs promptly, and investigate crime well, and that focus on crime from chief constable downwards is having a positive effect. you've you've made reference to our successes . made reference to our successes. we are solving more shoplifting crimes than we have for many years. i want to do more in that regard, but it's about having the right focus, focusing on crime and treating these crimes with the seriousness that they deserve. >> i sound like a stupid
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question , paul, but most people question, paul, but most people were going, well, hang on a minute. don't the police just focus on crime anyway? is that not what every constabulary is doing? >> yeah, of course we focus on crime, but we've really drilled down into that. we recognise the impact that being a victim of shoplifting has on our high streets. we recognise that there's a call for policing to do more, and through a number of, clear tactics, we are starting to have an impact. and i think in time it will have a deterrent effect on the on the offenders who are plaguing our high streets , paul, and on high streets, paul, and on a very practical way. >> what are you doing that my local co—op that has on average about £1,000 a day being nicked from that shop. how are you doing it? >> i. oh sorry. >> sorry. paul bear with us. we've had a technical glitch there. sorry. answer if you could just answer that question. what are you doing? on a practical level? >> so we get to jobs quickly, to ensure that we can gather all of
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the key evidence. normally cctv, but commence our investigation swiftly. i think the critical thing, though , thereafter, is thing, though, thereafter, is when we do arrest an offender, we investigate them for all of their criminality. what we've found too often is that offenders are being investigated on multiple occasions, and sometimes by multiple forces . sometimes by multiple forces. what we seek to do is really focus on the offender's behaviour, beyond the one act that we might have arrested them for, and then put the strongest possible case in front of the courts. so in a recent example, we had an offender or a pair of offenders who had operated over 26 counties, stealing from morrisons supermarkets over a six month period. we dealt with all of that offending and as a consequence of that, the two offenders were were imprisoned , offenders were were imprisoned, and we stopped. we stopped a crime spree that was affecting the whole country. so our focus is really in, getting into the
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offenders and, and, and dealing with everything in one go so that they get the maximum possible sanction and chief constable, if, the shoplifter , constable, if, the shoplifter, the shop tells you that £195 worth of stuff has been pinched, do you still investigate? >> is there a ceiling by which you do or don't investigate a shoplifting offence? >> no. we investigate that, a shoplifter committed £195 from plenty of shops in a day and come away with a very big profit. yeah, and of course, we recognise that for our high streets, £195 is a significant amount of money, particularly for some of our smaller and independent stores. that could be a week's profit, crime is crime, and we deal with it . crime, and we deal with it. >> and, and when you say you know, you respond quickly to reports of shoplifting . so you reports of shoplifting. so you get the police officers there in quick time, as you say, get the information and the evidence needed. but why aren't other
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forces doing that, paul? >> well, i'm i'm not going to comment on other forces. they have different policing demands to that which we do , across uk to that which we do, across uk policing , there are significant policing, there are significant efforts to improve our response towards shoplifting, of course there's police chiefs. we all have a limited number of police officers to deploy to a growing demand , a growing range of demand, a growing range of demand, a growing range of demand pressures , but what i'll demand pressures, but what i'll do is i'll speak about my own county and our county. we treat crime as a priority. we called it a core part of policing. we get out to jobs quickly, we investigate crime well, and we're determined to bring offenders to justice. >> and, chief constable, do you dare i ask this? do we do? is there the rare species of the bobby on the beat ever seen in norfolk? because you don't see them much. where i live we do. >> are very utmost to ensure that visibility. still, it still takes place because that's a really important part of deterrent. >> isn't it? >> isn't it? >> it is an important part of the deterrent . but what i say
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the deterrent. but what i say about visibility, the one group of our society that i particularly want to see, police officers, are our criminals . officers, are our criminals. they are the ones who i direct my officers towards. they're the ones who really need to see visible policing. and sometimes that's by knocking on their doon that's by knocking on their door, that's ensuring that we've got criminal behaviour orders in place, banning them from stores, and that we follow up and we check on those orders. it's our criminals who i most want to see visible policing. so where i am limited in how much time i can ask our bobbies to spend on the beat the streets, i want them to beat the streets, i want them to be walking down at a street that our criminals are walking down. >> i presume. also, paul, you must be mindful that petty crime, let's call it petty. i don't think it is shoplifting. those wrong'uns are often it will escalate into something else. and maybe the money that they get from shoplifting, they can buy some drugs and they can sell some drugs, or they carry a knife or whatever it is. so are you mindful of clamping down on
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the shoplifting will stop that escalation of crime ? escalation of crime? >> yeah, i think there's i think there's a lot of truth in that, but i don't consider it to be petty crime in the first place, some of these shoplifters, particularly the shoplifting gangs, steal in significant quantities. and i gave that case example earlier. you know, there's a group that had managed to take over £60,000 from a supermarket chain that's not petty crime, that's serious criminality. that needs a robust policing response. and that's what we endeavour to give. >> can we ask you one final question, chief counsel, would you like to, hand your notice in in norfolk constabulary, please. >> and come and run the metropolitan police, which i know you're not going to agree with this, but he's a total shambles. >> we'd love to see you sorting out our streets here and our great capital city. >> i would disagree with that. >> i would disagree with that. >> and you'd expect i knew you say that the policing of london is so, so different to the challenges in norfolk. >> and look, i'm going to stand up for my colleagues in london across policing. there are
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police officers who are doing their very, very to best deliver their very, very to best deliver the best possible policing for the best possible policing for the communities that they serve. and that's an increasingly difficult role. it's difficult in norfolk. it's particularly difficult in london and i think that they do a fine job. what we're trying to do here, though, is provide the policing for the communities in norfolk want from us. and i think locally, we're delivering really good things, >> also, just let me ask you, what's your job satisfaction rate like in norfolk? i'm going to stick my neck out and say, with a leader like you there, i imagine that there's a lot more job satisfaction when you're actually putting away the baddies than in areas where that isn't happening, >> so you certainly join policing to do just that, don't you, that's why i joined 25 years ago, but we're gonna have to let you go because the home secretary is just about to speak in southport. >> but thank you so much for joining us. this is the home secretary in southport . she is secretary in southport. she is laying a wreath where there are many flowers already. as you
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know, terrible tragedy in southport yesterday where a knifeman killed two little girls. two. six children are in hospital and alder hey hospital and two adults. so the home secretary, yvette cooper, is laying a wreath there. i think thatis laying a wreath there. i think that is the chief constable also of , the merseyside . of, the merseyside. >> merseyside there. >> merseyside there. >> she's laying a wreath too. i'm sure the home secretary, yvette cooper, will be saying something not long in the job, is she yvette cooper? and this is she yvette cooper? and this is the brutal reality. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> policing and government. >> policing and government. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> as we know, there were 25 little girls. i presume there were mainly little girls, i think in this dance, taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop. one of the organisers, leanne lucas , who's 35, she's leanne lucas, who's 35, she's fighting for her life at the moment in hospital. this is the latest news we have about this. she has another teacher with her. she did. heidi barlow was her. she did. heidi barlow was her name. she's 35 and she
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between them. these two ladies. heidi is also in hospital. saved 16 other children. there were 25. >> incredible bravery, isn't it? >> incredible bravery, isn't it? >> incredible bravery, isn't it? >> incredible age between six and 11. >> nine children were taken to hospital . six of them are >> nine children were taken to hospital. six of them are in a critical condition. two of them, of course. tragically lost their lives. >> and if you listening on the radio, the home secretary, she's now looking at some of the bouquets. there's dozens and dozens of bouquets with messages to the families, because this is a community in total total shock and trauma , so and she is , and and trauma, so and she is, and the chief constable is there too, and she i'm sure she's going to say a few words, the and we are getting updates all the time on the condition of the children in hospital, six in hospital and two adults, one of whom we know is the 35 year old yoga teacher, who was in critical condition. it is an
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extraordinary thing, isn't it ? extraordinary thing, isn't it? >> and, taylor swift herself has actually paid tribute. >> i thought she would this morning. >> i wondered when she might say something. she said they were just little kids at a dance class. she's paid tribute to the southport stabbing victim. she tells fans she is completely in shock at the loss of life and innocent. >> i posted i can remember there was a similar reaction. >> remember an ariana ariana grande after the terrible killings at the concert in paris, in france some years ago, and the home secretary just emerging now? i think she's now about to say a few words to the media, in which case we will listen to what she's got to say. >> quiet residential street, actually. and southport is a is actually. and southport is a is a lovely little town on the coast in merseyside, not far from liverpool, not far from manchester, even from merseyside, isn't it? it is merseyside, isn't it? it is merseyside, yeah . merseyside, yeah. >> and, what you call posh merseyside, it is . merseyside, it is. >> yeah it is. and actually the, the, the, the building where the attack took place is a community centre. so they obviously from the goodness of their hearts,
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these young women have put on this holiday activity because parents are at work, children are off school and actually as a mum of two daughters, when they were that age, i can't think of anything they would have rather done than go to a little taylor swift workshop making bracelets. they were doing some dancing, listening to taylor swift music should have been an absolutely blissful day of summer holidays, and instead turns to absolute tragedy. taylor swift's message on instagram, let me just tell you what she wrote. she says the horror of yesterday's attack in southport is washing over me continuously, and i'm just completely in shock. the loss of life and innocence and the horrendous trauma inflicted on everyone who was there. the families and the first responders. these were just little girls at a dance class. i am at a complete loss for how to ever convey my sympathies to these families, says taylor swift. >> we'll keep you updated throughout that the home secretary hasn't spoken yet. i suspect she will. she may choose to speak in a different area, perhaps not quite so close to the scene now. the high court has ruled that an emergency ban
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on puberty blockers imposed by the previous government to stop teenagers being given these, these, this medicine was lawful. >> that's right. health secretary wes streeting said that he welcomed the court ruling, saying that children's health care must be evidence led. >> we're going to talk now to the human rights campaigner and activist peter tatchell. peter, this was a very high profile action by the last government. the action has been upheld by the courts and backed by the current government in the form of wes streeting. do you welcome the decision of the court ? the decision of the court? >> well, the judge said that the decision was lawful. so what the judge was saying was the government had the legal right to make that decision to ban puberty blockers. it was not a judgement about whether puberty blockers were appropriate or not. in fact, the judge said that this should be a clinical decision rather than a court decision rather than a court decision about whether puberty blockers were provided to those children who clinicians decide
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needed them. so it wasn't a judgement against puberty blockers, it was just a judgement that the government had the legal right to introduce the ban. >> but we but we did have the judgement against puberty blockers, peter, in that landmark report by harriet cass, a distinguished child psychologist and paediatrician, who said what was happening to children was was wrong and that puberty blockers should be banned for children, for teenage children. and she was particularly appalled that parents often hadn't even been consulted when kids were being given them. >> that is not what cass said at all. the cass report said that the provision of puberty blockers should proceed with caution and not be either banned or provided on a generalised basis. she was saying that in her view, there wasn't enough evidence, but that is untrue. first of all, the cass report was extraordinary. no trans people or organisations or,
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clinicians and doctors involved in gender issues were on the advisory board. so the advisory board was undertaken without any input from trans people or doctors who deal with trans people . now, can you imagine if people. now, can you imagine if there was a report on black and ethnic minority people with no black and ethnic minority people involved in that report? it's quite outrageous. the cass report, the way it operated, doctor cass herself had no experience or knowledge or background in dealing with these issues. so i do think we have to draw a question mark over that. cass report and recognise that it did raise issues and concern, and that's perfectly valid. >> peter . and that's perfectly valid. >> peter. it did. it said that. it said that they should no longer be given to anyone under 18 on safety grounds. that's what she said . what she said. >> well, i think she said that that that should be on the basis that that should be on the basis that in normal circumstances they should not be given to
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young people under 18. >> and she's the president of the royal college of paediatrics. she knows her stuff. peter. >> yeah , well, someone can be >> yeah, well, someone can be a part a member of the royal college of paediatrics but have no knowledge or understanding of gender dysphoria issues. and i want to repeat that. she was saying that , yes, there should saying that, yes, there should be no blanket provision, but she wasn't ruling out the possibility of puberty blockers in some circumstances. but she was urging caution. and that's fair enough. >> peter , just we're very short >> peter, just we're very short on time. but tell us, why should children be allowed to have puberty blockers? what would be the benefits? >> well, we have examples of thousands of young trans people across the world who've been given puberty blockers and clinicians, not politicians or judges. but clinicians have ruled that they are for the benefit of those young people. they have enhanced their lives, that they have helped them overcome the stress and anxiety
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of gender dysphoria. so we should listen. >> we've been beaten by the clock, peter. but, good to see you. human rights campaigner, activist peter tatchell there. we're going to bring you the latest from southport in just a moment. don't go anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. it's going to be another very hot day, likely hotter today than yesterday. dry and sunny for most of us and it will stay warm and humid overnight as well. there's still a weak weather front across north western areas, bringing some hazy sunshine to parts of northern ireland, northern england into parts of wales through this morning. that will sink southwards slowly through the day into central areas of england, bringing the hazy sunshine here. but elsewhere long lived strong sunshine and it will feel very warm indeed. as i said, hotter today than yesterday. 32 degrees is possible in the south and east. could be the hottest day of the
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year so far. widely though, we're in the mid to high 20s across england and wales, and it is going to be a hotter day for parts of scotland and northern ireland. two across the far north of scotland, though the northern isles, we've got a bit of a brisk breeze. the risk of the odd shower here dry though elsewhere across scotland, temperatures still in the 20s this evening to northern ireland as well. a bit more cloud around, particularly across southeastern areas that hazier sunshine into central areas of england and wales. but across the south coast, temperatures still in the high 20s this evening. if you are heading to the beach sea temperatures are around 18 degrees across the south coast at the moment. now, as we head into wednesday, it should stay dry overnight. we've still got high pressure dominating our weather. there will be a bit of mist and fog developing here and there and across the north of scotland. it will still stay fairly fresh overnight, temperatures still dipping down into the single figures a different story further south. temperatures in the mid to high teens and the humidity starting to increase overnight tonight. and that's
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because we've got this threat of thunderstorms coming ever closer from the near continent that may affect the olympics through wednesday and into thursday . wednesday and into thursday. more likely, we'll see that thunderstorm risk in the uk through thursday. but there is a risk through wednesday afternoon and into the evening away from that thunderstorm, bristow temperatures still in the mid 20s and the high 30s are still possible. have a great day. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb
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>> good morning. 11 am. on tuesday the 30th of july live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you . so >> very good morning to you. so of course we're reflecting on the holiday club horror home secretary yvette cooper has paid tribute to victims of this frenzied knife attack at a dance
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class in southport yesterday. >> pensioners in peril. it's a perfectly legitimate question. the chancellor, rachel reeves, is now having to defend her decision to scrap winter fuel payments for up to 10 million pensioners and hate merchant amgen . amgen. >> trout chowdhury could face life behind bars. he's sentenced for directing a terrorist organisation later today. >> and did you realise it was hot? and if it's hot, you need to put your sun cream on and your sand glass and drink water. that's the message from the mayor of london, sadiq khan, because today we're facing our highest temperature this year of 30 degrees. >> woohoo! >> woohoo! >> how am i woohoo! >> how am i woohoo! >> that was a better woohoo! >> that was a better woohoo! >> i just think the mayor of london is ridiculous. yes on many levels, but this one is particularly. you go on a tube, there's all these stupid messages, you get all these messages, you get all these message messages, tabloid, you know , the cheapest late as know, the cheapest late as usual. and you're going if it's
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hot weather, carry some water on you feeling faint. all the steps, every step you step will say like watch your step or walk carefully . just infantilising carefully. just infantilising this country . carefully. just infantilising this country. mind your own business, mr mayor. >> we're living in a world. the traffic out it feels like we're living in a world where the children are treated like adults and the adults are treated like children. >> it's all back to front. >> it's all back to front. >> did you know you had to put sunblock on? >> if it's a temperature of nearly 100 degrees, don't get too hot gbnews.com/yoursay first though, the very latest news with sofia. >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's just gone . 11:00. your top it's just gone. 11:00. your top story this hour. the home secretary has paid tribute to those affected by yesterday's knife attack in southport , knife attack in southport, saying she'd do everything to support the community. yvette cooper laid flowers at the scene moments ago where two children lost their lives, six other children and two adults remain in a critical condition after
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what was described as a ferocious attack at a taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop. the pop star has also paid tribute this morning, saying she's in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma . and they were just trauma. and they were just little kids, a 17 year old boy remains in custody on suspicion of murder and attempted murder. one local resident told gb news the whole community is in a state of shock. it's shocking, absolutely shocking. >> i was just saying before i heard the news last night and it didn't get to me. it was really upsetting and it's just one of them things we will never forget, definitely not in my lifetime and lifetimes after that. i mean, it's in our blood, isn't it? in our history. you know, anything that terrible happens, you know, we all come together, you know, this is just not representative of what merseyside is like. you know, it's a lovely place . it's a lovely place. >> now, a six year old girl who went missing from a southeast london estate yesterday has been found. houdini was reported
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missing from a housing estate in greenwich late yesterday after she was seen in cctv footage walking out of her house. police say they're very pleased to report she's been found safe and well. they thanked everyone who shared the appeal . jeremy hunt shared the appeal. jeremy hunt says he was angered by the chancellor's speech yesterday, which blamed the conservatives for a reported £20 billion black hole in public finances. it's after rachel reeves accused the previous government of covering up the true state of britain's economy, before announcing a series of cuts aimed at saving £5.5 billion. but the shadow chancellor told gb news the new government is shifting the blame perfectly. >> all right to disagree with good conservative plans to deal with the challenges on public finances. but what you can't do isjunk finances. but what you can't do is junk the plans that we had in place, and then blame the black hole that you have on the previous conservative government
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and the single most pressing thing, i think for most gb news listeners is the soaring welfare bill. and welfare reform was junked from the king's speech. so, you know, this is a political choice that the new labour government has made. they knew they were going to do it all along , and they should have all along, and they should have been up front about that, not trying to pass the blame on to their predecessors. >> in other news, the first pubuc >> in other news, the first public hearing in a long awaited pubuc public hearing in a long awaited public inquiry into the omagh bomb will start later. the probe is led by chairman lord turnbull and will examine whether the atrocity could reasonably have been prevented by authorities . been prevented by authorities. the bombing, which was carried out by dissident republicans in 1998, killed 29 people, including a woman who was pregnant with twins. today's heanng pregnant with twins. today's hearing marks the first time that all of the bereaved families will come together to just stop oil. protesters have been arrested at heathrow airport on suspicion of criminal damage. it comes after orange
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paint was sprayed on passenger information screens and on the floor inside the airport's terminal five. police remain at the scene this morning as a precaution while they deal with any further offences . in paris, any further offences. in paris, the men's triathlon event was cancelled this morning just hours before it was due to start, and that's due to pollution in the river seine. the race was due to start at 8:00 this morning. swimming training sessions were also cancelled on sunday and monday because of the water quality. a statement from world triathlon said they're monitoring the water quality and contingency plans are in place in case pollution levels don't improve. the race scheduled for this morning will now take place tomorrow following the end of the women's race, and today could be the hottest day of the year so far, with temperatures in some areas expected to soar beyond 32 degrees. the met office says some places in england and wales are likely to exceed the criteria needed to
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define a heatwave, but you'd best make the most of it. thunderstorms are predicted to break the heat later in the week . break the heat later in the week. those are the latest gb news headunes. those are the latest gb news headlines . for now, i'm sophia headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> welcome to britain's newsroom live across the uk with me, bev turner and andrew pierce as they struck by what she was saying in the news bulletin that the triathlon has been cancelled today at the olympics because the river seine is too polluted. >> i'm just looking as recently as february, the ludicrous figure that is president macron boldly promised to swim in the same because he said it had all been cleaned up because it had been cleaned up because it had been largely people wouldn't swim in it, he said. pollution reduction in the seine is one of
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the positive impacts of the games. we've made extraordinary investments into making the river swimmable again. asked by journalists whether he'd bathe in it , macron journalists whether he'd bathe in it, macron said, me, yes, i'll go in and i know you'll all be there when i do it. he hasn't beenin be there when i do it. he hasn't been in yet. perhaps he should go in today. well, that's what he expects. >> the olympic athletes, right? >> the olympic athletes, right? >> we we've actually got a good chance of winning the gold medal, actually, in the men's triathlon, if women go choke on the pollution . yeah, they don't the pollution. yeah, they don't get e.coli, and actually the women's triathlon, i think is going to go ahead tomorrow before the men. so they'll send the women in. and if they all get out all right, they might let the men do it. the next day. >> women first, of course. >> women first, of course. >> so, so and partly of course, this is because they've had incredibly heavy rain. >> yes. france. yeah. they have which which adds to the pollution. >> i mean, look, i'm not saying our rivers are not a bit of a basket case. they are. yeah. this is difficult for the french president. >> let's just give a shout out to our gb news medal hopefuls alex yee, beth potter, georgia taylor—brown and kate walker's. >> we're good at triathlon in this country, so good luck .
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this country, so good luck. >> team gb also to team gb, which is doing very, very well and whatever you tom daley, god don't you love him? >> i love him another medal honestly. >> i mean i've said before, i love the olympics. my poor other half couldn't care less about sport . so every evening at the sport. so every evening at the moment i'm watching an hour of swimming while he sits there with his ipad and some headphones on, watching some car program or something, i, i think widower. >> what's the guy who won the mountain biking gold medal? tom don't know. well, he it was he was seconds behind. yes. overhauled the french guy beat the french guy right on the last. and today is his 25th birthday. >> yeah, right on the last corner. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> tom pidcock, that's his name. there he is. what a hero. >> yeah, what a hero. >> yeah, what a hero. >> even though his team weren't ready for him when his bike punctured. >> isn't that nothing works? >> isn't that nothing works? >> no . right. taylor swift has >> no. right. taylor swift has broken her silence on this awful knife attack that happened in southport yesterday. >> she's put a message out on social media and she says the horror of yesterday's attack in southport is washing over me continuously. i'm completely in shock. these were just little kids at a dance class.
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absolutely right, isn't she? >> yeah, she is . and a 17 year >> yeah, she is. and a 17 year old young man. a boy has been arrested after two children were, of course, killed. nine others were injured. six of them continue to be in a critical condition. >> two adults trying to protect the children are also in a critical condition. and we've got the picture there. of the 35 year old dance teacher, leanne lucas, who is has critical injuries, she went to help the children with the fellow dance teacher heidi barlow, who was also injured. >> that's that's heidi there. we're looking at on the on the scene. we understand that her condition is not as serious, but, you know, good hearted, beautiful young women just wanting to help these girls, help the community, help the working parents who have dropped off their kids to have a lovely day in the summer holidays. awful. let's speak now to mark white, who is with us. what more can we discuss on this mark? because of course, there are very strict rules about what we can and can't say about the alleged perpetrator . alleged perpetrator. >> yeah, there's a lot of frustration out there at the
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fact that we're not naming this 17 year old. the reason we're not doing that is because it's, again, against the law of pure and simple. we would get into an awful lot of trouble. that's why other broadcasters and newspapers are not naming this person either. and that would be the case really , before anyone the case really, before anyone has been charged nowadays or has stricter rules about naming individuals before they've been charged. but particularly in this case, because this person is 17. so under the law they are a child under the age of 18. you're classed as a child and as unpalatable as that is for anybody to actually contemplate being a case, a 17 year old has those special considerations. >> was it always like that, mark? when did when did that. >> that's always we've always it's always been the case that anyone under the age of 18 is classed as a child, even though
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you used to call them juvenile didn't we. >> but. well indeed that's now got. yeah, negative connotations apparently. >> but lots of people contacting us and saying yes, but they named the two boys responsible for the murder of james bulger and others. yes, they've done that. and regularly the courts will decide to name people of 17, 16, 15, 14 and younger once they're convicted. so if this goes to court, which we expect it will do, if there is a successful conviction, then at that point it's not even, a consideration. it's very probable that the judge would name the individual involved, as we've seen many times before. but until that that point is reached, our hands are tied. we can't name someone without breaking the laws. >> so a child and we know there's obviously trauma and grief and shock in this community. there will also mark, be real anger.
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>> there is anger and their own children. and one of the things, one of the things that's fuelling the anger in the wider population is a belief that they are not being told the whole truth by the authorities. the authorities are somehow suppressing relevant information. this all stems back to a period decades ago with the, grooming scandal in rochdale and other northern towns, for where decades the police, social services and others were accused of covering up the extent of the abuse on young, vulnerable white girls by mainly pakistani heritage males. and there has been a big scandal ever since . and trust in the ever since. and trust in the authorities has , from that point authorities has, from that point on, been gradually eroded. and it's, you know, now reached a point where whatever the police say , you know, there is a great say, you know, there is a great deal of suspicion that they are
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not being told the whole truth. and some of that truth is being kept back. for instance, the status or the immigration status of the person who has been arrested. we understand that they're from an immigrant family, but they themselves were born in the uk , born in cardiff. born in the uk, born in cardiff. that has been said by the police in terms and i think also, mark, am i right in saying that they don't want any information to be spread around online which might jeopardise a conviction. >> like what? what might they be worried about in terms of misinformation or , well, misinformation or, well, information that can be prejudicial to a case is what's uppermost in the minds of the judge. >> at the end of the day, who would have to preside over a trial if anything is said, if information is shared, that any jury information is shared, that any jury member further down the road might have been influenced by subjected to, they always tell them, look, forget what you
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read and see in the media, social media judge this case on the facts, but they're always concerned about the potential for people to be influenced by what they're seeing , and there what they're seeing, and there is misinformation out there because i saw a post that was shared very widely yesterday that named someone. i don't know if that is this individual or not, but it clearly said that this person was on a terror watch list. i don't know again, if that's true, but saying that this person had come across the engush this person had come across the english channel last year on a small boat, we know that's not true. the police have said in a statement categorically, that's not true, as this young man was born in cardiff. yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> really interesting. >> really interesting. >> mark, thank you for that. >> mark, thank you for that. >> and we'll keep you updated on this throughout the day. and also on the condition of six the children and the two adults who are still in hospital , children and the two adults who are still in hospital, some of them with critical injuries.
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gb news. just a little bit of breaking news now. a judge has issued an arrest warrant for former glamour model katie price. she failed to attend a hearing relating to the bankruptcies that she's facing. more on this later. >> is that what they call topless models now? former glamour models. i thought she was famous for the size of her bust. >> well, she's kind of. >> well, she's kind of. >> don't talk about that. i've got a slightly booby dress on today. andrew pierce, i apologise to our viewers if i'm putting you off. >> katie price couldn't wear a slightly, slightly booby dress. >> i didn't realise she'd have to. >> i mean, she'd been barrage balloons. >> i thought i'd put my yellow dress on because it's a sunny day. and then i saw myself in
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the monitor and i thought, oh, this is a bit too much for daytime viewing, isn't it? so i do apologise. >> i don't think piers or knight or nelson are lost on him. >> let me tell you, it's lost on andrew pierce, wasted on me. >> but our two gentleman commentators, piers pottinger and el—sisi, very happy. >> and two gentlemen. yes >> and two gentlemen. yes >> good. let's keep it that way. >> good. let's keep it that way. >> i think bev always looks amazingly elegant. >> thank you. piers, that's very nicely put. right. okay, let's talk about , nicely put. right. okay, let's talk about, shall we? this cancel culture law. this is bridget phillipson. pierce. what what is she taking it upon herself to do? >> this is the education secretary. >> yes. she's the education secretary. and in november , a secretary. and in november, a law was an act of parliament. was passed, a freedom of speech act, particularly aimed at universities, colleges and students associations to protect freedom of speech and bridget phillipson and it's had the royal consent. it's on the statute book and the law was due
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to start in the next day or two. but it does need implementation regulation, which she's declined to give. and has said she's going to repeal it. now, this is she said, all this outside parliament. she has taken it upon herself effectively to repeal an act of parliament without the consent of parliament. it wasn't in the king's speech. and also this is basically saying it's fine, let's have all this wokery pokery back in universities and cancelling speakers. >> and the government brought it forward. that's why people, many people were being cancelled. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and now jk rowling people and that incredibly the labour party have decided to repeal a freedom of speech bill. >> it is absolutely unforgivable. i mean, bridget phillipson, who's also responsible for the ludicrous vat on public schools, which she's now admitted does mean there are going to be more pupils and more pressure on
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state schools instead of actually improving education in this country. everything she seems to be doing is damaging it. and more than that , nothing it. and more than that, nothing was mentioned in the government about the £250 billion of liability for student loans. we have, much of which will probably never be repaid. that's a liability this government isn't even focusing on. >> why have they done this freedom speech? >> well, the whole thing is, first of all, they haven't repealed it. but she says she's going to well, what she says is she doesn't think the act itself is fit for purpose. >> but parliament passed it. >> but parliament passed it. >> it did indeed. >> but parliament passed it. >> it did indeed . so i mean, >> it did indeed. so i mean, i mean, on the basis of that, she wants to look at it again and see if that can be improved. >> but she stopped it being implemented, stopped it being implemented, stopped it being implemented, which is, i mean, that that is beyond law, beyond parliament. it's a kind of dictatorship stuff we're getting here, she says. >> it's too burdensome, burdensome. she said the legislature would have imposed a
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burdensome duty on universities to uphold free speech. i don't care how burdensome it is . zigi care how burdensome it is. zigi shipper upholds free speech. >> free speech is a vital it's a cornerstone of this country. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> all of us around this table can agree free speech is the right thing. >> people should. >> people should. >> people. people shouldn't be cancelled in universities. point here is you've got to make this work properly. so what are the concerns? for instance, from the jewish community was that you might get extreme, anti—semites speak at universities, which would be a problem forjewish students. so what you're talking about here is how you put certain safeguards in place. free speech is not unlimited. free speech is not unlimited. free speech is not unlimited. free speech carries with it the duty of responsibility. and if the law doesn't work properly to guarantee that, that it needs to be reviewed. >> but she's decided off her own bat. that's what i'm saying, that the law isn't fit for purpose when it's been passed through parliament. it's on the statute book . it's had the royal statute book. it's had the royal assent. it this business was not
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mentioned in the in the king's speech actually, neither was taking away the money from pensioners for the heating allowance, i mean, it's what isn't in the king's speech is thatis isn't in the king's speech is that is the most sinister thing about this government already. >> it is curious that a secretary of state can just say, i'm not. i'm not doing it well , i'm not. i'm not doing it well, no debate in parliament, but what you just said, it's happening. >> and she said it outside parliament. >> outside parliament. >> outside parliament. >> what she can do is she can review it and see if this can be improved. i mean, she hasn't reviewed it. >> she stopped it. >> she stopped it. >> well, i mean, she stopped it being implemented at this moment in the same way that the illegal migration act also passed through parliament, and that's been stopped in its tracks. so there's nothing there's nothing to i knew that was going to happen because they said they were going to block it. they said they were they were going to do that. >> they knew nothing about the freedom of speech. >> no, i mean, this has come out since they've actually been elected. >> there's an irony here, nigel, that the whole thing about freedom of speech wasn't mentioned at any point during a general election campaign for six weeks. we're all talking about then. no never mentioned
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it once. >> this was the king's speech came about after they were elected as well, and this was not mentioned in it. and i think freedom of speech is a fundamental issue. and this is i mean, and for speech. >> but but do you also agree, piers, that it has to actually be implemented with careful thought? >> i do, that's why the law was passed in the first place. yes. and if you listen to toby young on this subject, he's very good on this subject, he's very good on it. >> through properly that there were at were anomalies in it that it was thought through properly was the kind of speakers you might who might appear at university, whether or not you'd end up with some hate speech as a result of this , all speech as a result of this, all those things weren't taken into consideration. and what bridget phillipson is saying is, let's do that now. >> they were taken into consideration. they debated it. i mean , this is a crazy mix i mean, this is a crazy mix who've been no platformed, are saying that they're really disturbed by this development. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, i mean, kathleen stock in the example that she, that she lost her career because of her views on transgender
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issues. and i think that she was incredibly badly treated. so the principles behind this i'm agreeing with and as far as i can gather from what we from the reports, so is bridget phillipson. the point? the point really is making this law work properly. >> i mean, bridget phillipson is only second to ed miliband in the disastrous ness of her spoutings so far. i mean, she's also the woman during the election who said they were going to reduce the labour would reduce violence against women by 50%. now again , pluck a figure 50%. now again, pluck a figure from the air she has not explained how that wasn't in the king's speech, by the way. and she mentioned this more than once. she went on about it and we still haven't heard how she, as education secretary, is going to reduce violence against women by 50%. >> they've confirmed. haven't they noted that they are going ahead with this flagship bill in january to stop to strip private
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schools of their vat. now, i saw to impose vat on private schools. i saw a figure the other day saying they're not going to get anything like the money. they thought, and i know for a fact grandparents who've raided the bank to pay their grandchildren's school fees for three years to avoid the vat hike. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and obviously there will be people who are affected by this who are taking their children out as well. yeah, but i mean, but the general principle behind it has got to be right on the bafis it has got to be right on the basis that most parents will stump up that 20% extra assuming they're charged it . some schools they're charged it. some schools may use the donations they get to not pass on the fee . but over to not pass on the fee. but over the last 20 years, school fees have gone up 55%, the same proportion of parents are still sending their children to private schools. that's 7%. so money doesn't seem to be an issue for most people . issue for most people. >> public schools fund their own teachers pensions, which is not
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the case in state schools. that's the reason, one of the major reasons that the costs have gone up in private schools or public schools , as we still or public schools, as we still quite rightly call them. and also the point is, public schools are bastions of educational excellence. and instead and what bridget phillipson is doing is penalising already great famous internationally , some of our internationally, some of our great assets are our public schools. she's penalising them out of spite, socialist spite of the worst kind. state schools also ought to be be bastions of excellence . excellence. >> so you don't achieve that by punishing the children of the families who've either saved or worked really hard, or aspiring to private schools. >> it's again, it's the worst kind of thousand more teachers. it's the worst kind of socialist help. >> the state school sector. >> the state school sector. >> it's such a nonsense figure. where are they going to find these 6500 teachers? nobody wants to do it as a job. >> i mean , takes a few years to
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train. >> it won't happen around the corner. >> exactly. but in the meantime, you're taking children out of schools who have got a settled life in a school . and sometimes life in a school. and sometimes those kids are in those private schools, not because their parents are wealthy, but because they might have learning needs and they need a smaller classroom. and they'll be they were bullied. no. they'll only be protected if they've got a statement. they'll only be protected if they've got an educational health care statement. and a lot of kids are not that challenged. >> well, you've got to have some they that they have the state already paying their fees. >> and those kids are only protected because the state already pays their private school fees. what i'm talking about are the kids with dyslexia, or a bit of adhd, or a bit of autism, and they can exist in a school and should have been statemented on the bafis have been statemented on the basis of that . so that means the basis of that. so that means the government are paying more people's. do you see what i mean? yeah, but you can't you can't pay yeah, but you can't you can't pay everybody's school fees. so the children who have statements are the ones who have more extreme disabilities. yeah. >> who are protected. and also special schools would be protected as well . they wouldn't protected as well. they wouldn't have to pay the but the government already pay their fees . fees. >> but actually do you have a
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chance children of the children of the armed forces and diplomats who had fee assistance in public schools, that has gone she has cancelled that. >> and it is state boarding schools. it is absolutely outrageous that tiny number. we have an education secretary who's anti—education military school in dover , whereby that school in dover, whereby that the kids from the armed forces can go it's a boarding school. >> so if they're posted overseas, they can go there . overseas, they can go there. those boarding fees, although there is no fee for education, those boarding fees are paid for by us. >> and that's okay. >> and that's okay. >> well, by the taxpayer. yes, of course, because we're talking about to go go abroad and serve the country. >> and in that situation , >> and in that situation, absolutely. of course, we should be helping those families. but what you're talking about here is, well, if you've got a child with any learning needs at all, go and get them statemented once you've got that certificate that says, my child can't be an education, the government will then pay that child's private school fees. but you see, so like the ideology is more and more go to the government. they
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will pay for all the parents, all all the parents who are paying all all the parents who are paying school fees are also paying paying school fees are also paying taxes towards state education, and it is their choice to do this. >> exactly what what why should the general taxpayer have to subsidise that? >> they're not subsidising it. we're all subsidising rubbish that's completely untrue. of course, you're now penalising them and taking money off people, subsidising it by allowing them to avoid 20% of vat . vat. >> that money has to come from somewhere else. but the general taxpayer, the parents of children at private school, absolutely subsidising the state sector because children at private school they they aren't taking up , they're making that taking up, they're making that choice for themselves in the same way. and that's okay. >> because you know what i like a country where you have a choice. >> i quite like parents to have choice. >> yes, but why should everybody else have to pay for that choice if you were not paying for it? you want private health. you can have private health. that's fine. spend the money. money? your money as you. you wish. everyone should have the right to do that. other people shouldn't subsidise it.
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>> private are subsidising. >> private are subsidising. >> private are subsidising. >> private health is not subsidised by the general tax, but they aren't. >> neither is. neither is private school education. and to claim it is nonsense. absolute nonsense. >> there are businesses and if they're not paying vat , that they're not paying vat, that money is to come from elsewhere. >> and they children and they also children, they also do some very important work in local community. >> there are also lots of bursaries. >> agree with that. yeah. >> agree with that. yeah. >> children from poorer backgrounds. that's all going to go. peers. sorry. we're all going to go because that'll be the first thing they'll cut. would be the bursaries for the kids. >> well, when you talk about, health as well and private health, something that for a long time i believed we should be doing is, i think it's 400,000 people from abroad come to take advantage of our private health service . why don't we tax health service. why don't we tax them well and use that money to go into the national health service? >> anybody who comes to live here from abroad must pay the nhs surcharge. >> if how many do they not if they're using private services, they're using private services, they're not living here. i'm not talking about people living here. i'm talking about people
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who come specifically just for special private medical treatment. and there are hundreds of thousands of them. if we charge them £10 for each procedure, we would be raising millions for the national health service. >> we're starting to see, aren't we, what life under a labour government looks like. and i think this idea of less choice. nigel nelson, we will be coming back to this, the nanny state, right? news headlines now, sophia wenzler is waiting for. us. >> bear. thank you. good morning . >> bear. thank you. good morning. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. the home secretary has paid tribute to those affected by yesterday's knife attack in southport. yvette cooper laid flowers at the scene this morning where two children lost their lives . six children lost their lives. six other children and two adults remain in a critical condition after what was described as a ferocious attack at a taylor swift themed dance and yoga workshop. the pop star also made
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a statement this morning saying she's in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma, and they were just little kids. a 17 year old boy remains in custody on suspicion of murder and attempted murder . gb news can attempted murder. gb news can reveal that more than 3000 small boat migrants have crossed the engush boat migrants have crossed the english channel since labour came to power. the milestone figure was passed as at around 400 migrants reached british waters since yesterday morning. the figure for the year so far is almost 17,000. two just stop oil protesters were arrested at heathrow airport this morning after orange paint was splattered in the terminal. two suspects were detained on suspicion of criminal damage. police remain at the scene this morning as a precaution while they deal with any further offences in paris, a men's triathlon event was abruptly cancelled. this morning due to pollution in the river seine. a
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statement from world triathlon said. they're monitoring the water quality and contingency plans are in place in case it doesn't improve. the race is now scheduled for tomorrow morning and today could be the hottest day of the year so far, with temperatures in some areas expected to soar beyond 32 degrees. the met office is forecasting dry and warm conditions with lots of sunshine. the heat is expected to peak in southern england and wales later today, but you'd be best to make the most of it as thunderstorms are predicted to break the hot spell later in the week. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and here's
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financial report, and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound will buy you $12863 >> the pound will buy you $1.2863 and >> the pound will buy you 151.2863 and ,1.1872. the >> the pound will buy you $1.2863 and ,1.1872. the price of gold is £1,858, and £0.28 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 8267 points. >> cheers britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> tom and emma webb are here with us to tell us what's in. good afternoon britain. what have you got, guys? >> oh , it's a busy show as >> oh, it's a busy show as usual. 12 till three is the time when things happen. they're going to be live events. the sentencing of anjem choudary being one. he of course, again . being one. he of course, again. >> long sentence. >> long sentence. >> well, let's hope so. because of course, he's been before the law before and he gets out and then he starts hate preaching again. this, of course, the man who probably inaya 911, probably
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in isolation as well. >> good. yeah. >> good. yeah. >> so he can't radicalise anyone else. >> other people's minds. >> other people's minds. >> well, because he, he was released from his previous sentence as soon as his conditions were over, he immediately offended again. if of course, he will be sentenced. >> many accounts. muslim gangs pretty much run the police. the prison service, the prison community. >> there is a remarkable sense of people going to prison with no religion. >> yeah, and coming out radicalised. and i suppose it is something about the way in which prisons are run, obviously deeply overcrowded . we haven't deeply overcrowded. we haven't built any new prisons virtually in the last, ten years or so. the hospital, the prison building programme has hit roadblock after roadblock, local communities saying that badgers, badgers need to be protected. so prisons can't be built amongst the many, many excuses that have held up this programme all change. >> now we've got a labour government. >> well, let's hope so. >> well, let's hope so. >> they're saying they are going to be building don't they? they did. >> yeah. let's see. let's see if it happens. but but speaking of
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building, angela rayner also up in the commons this afternoon, big statement on building. and of course we're going to be in southport as well. more people heading to the site of that horrific, horrific incident all the time. and we know this is a big moment because changing the planning regulations to enable more building on what they now call the green belt, you and i might call it the green belt, big part of their plans to create growth and jobs and of course, the question remains, is this the sort of housing that people will want to live in? that's a big question. and also the devil's in the detail. it doesn't sound like this is going to be an overhaul of the system, but just sort of tweaking the system that already exists. big questions on what what actually lies with those targets, with those how those things are built. but yes, that that will be happening in the time as well. lots, lots more besides. also gb news exclusive. >> the 3,000th illegal migrant has now arrived in dover since the labour party took power. >> we have exclusive video. >> we have exclusive video. >> don't forget to smash the gangs. aren't they right? >> all that and more with emma
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and tom from midday. but i. i'm going to go outside now. andrew pierce. bye. that's that's already missing you already. it's going to be 32 degrees today in some parts of the country. so if andrew doesn't mind awfully , if he clearly mind awfully, if he clearly doesn't, i'm going to go outside. >> and i've been outside before on britain's newsroom. >> don't go anywhere
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>> 1141 this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner, who is outside. she's going to be talking about the weather. but first, the home secretary, yvette cooper, has been speaking over the past few minutes. she's in southport after that shocking knife tragedy. this is what she had to say . had to say. >> unimaginable . what has >> unimaginable. what has happened, this devastating and horrific attack. and i think all
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of our thoughts will be with the families who have been affected, the loved ones who have been lost and the children who are injured. and it's really important that they get the all the support they need. i've been meeting with some of the first responders, the emergency services, the police, fire services, the police, fire service and paramedics who were there yesterday and who had to respond with great bravery to make sure that more lives were not lost. and i thank them for the work that they did. there is also a serious criminal investigation underway now, but everyone's thoughts will be with those those injured children and just praying for them. >> you mentioned the investigation. of course. we heard from merseyside police yesterday that it isn't being considered a terror related incident. how do we know that it's not terror related? >> well, there is a serious criminal investigation underway because this was a horrific attack. it's important that the police pursue every single avenue , and that is what
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avenue, and that is what merseyside police are now doing. i support merseyside police in that work, but it's immensely important that they need to be able to continue that and they will provide updates. you'll understand that. i'm not going to say anything that would cut across their investigation or prejudice that investigation. as itake prejudice that investigation. as i take that investigation immensely seriously into this truly horrific attack . truly horrific attack. >> we're in a bit of a knife crime epidemic at the moment. you can't really go and listen to the news more than a week without hearing about a knife attack at the moment, what is your government going to do to try and tackle this issue and to prevent attacks like this in our communities? >> well, there would be deep distress right across the country as well as here in southport for this appalling, just truly horrific attack. because it's beyond every parent's worst nightmare. you had a what should have been a children's party, having fun at the beginning of the summer holidays could then turn into something so devastating.
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there's obviously deep concern about knife attacks across the country and that's why the prime minister has said that that is a moral mission to address this. but i think for today, the issue really is about southport and the issue is about the families who have been affected in this case and all of us praying for the injured children and for the little children who have been lost. >> i know when we're really tight on time, but i just want to quickly ask you, that's the home secretary, yvette cooper, speaking in southport after that terrible knife tragedy . terrible knife tragedy. >> and we echo her sentence, we wish all those children well and the two adults who are in hospital now, we've got this home and security editor gb news mark white in studio. you've got a scoop ? a scoop? >> yes. another grim milestone reached in the migrant crisis with. we can confirm now more than 3000 small boat migrants have crossed the english channel just since sir keir starmer came to power . so just since sir keir starmer came to power. so in less than a month, three and a half, well,
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3200. now we're at it follows a thousand a week, more than a thousand. well it's yeah very significant numbers that are crossing. in fact, just since yesterday, up to 400 migrants have crossed and what did we put that down to? we put that down to an improvement in the weather because it's always the same whatever the previous government told us about their efforts to stop the number of channel migrants coming across from france and how they'd made great inroads the year before. well, they made great inroads in a year that was very unpredictable weather wise. >> and of course, we saw one migrant was filmed yesterday. thumbs up to the camera saying, this is for rishi sunak. he would say, of course, if he was here, of course, if the government hadn't cancelled my rwanda plan, the first plane might, just might already have taken off to rwanda with illegal migrants on board. >> well, in truth , the labour >> well, in truth, the labour government still has no answer, or at least none that they've revealed with us about what they can do, what they will do with
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the many thousands of people who cross the english channel or indeed are just illegal overstayers here anyway, who cannot be returned to their home country because that country of origin is deemed to be unsafe. so countries like iran or iraq or syria or afghanistan and a multitude of other countries that the lawyers can argue on behalf of the migrants that they can't be returned to. that's why the previous government was looking at rwanda as a safe third country, and potentially other countries going forward as well. that's why you've got a number of european countries, including germany, looking now at third countries as a potential to send migrants to . potential to send migrants to. so let's see just how long the labour government can resist the temptation before they then have to look at a third safe country as well. all right. >> that's mark white with that breaking news exclusive for gb news. more than 3000 migrants
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well, i don't know where bev turner is. we thought we knew where she was. but all will be revealed because england and wales are set to see temperatures soar above 30 c today. but is the heat here to stay? well joining us now is the great journalist on all matters weather nathan rout. nathan, this is pretty hot, but i just came back from eastern europe last week. my god it went up to 41.6 degrees. too hot. we're never going to see temperatures like that here, are we? >> no, we're unlikely to see that certainly this afternoon. andrew, we have seen some temperatures similar two to the years ago when we hit 40.3. but i think for this for today and
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this afternoon and tomorrow, we're looking more around the low 30s for the southern half of the country and getting a bit cooler, a bit fresher as you go further north, but certainly if you compare it to the rest of the summer, so far it's looking better because, you know, i've been on this show a lot when there's been a heat wave on the way or a snap it, or a snippet of summer on the way, and then within a couple of days it's gone again. and it does look like this is going to be the story for this one as well. a couple of days of very, very warm weather, very humid weather, weather, very muggy weather. we could break the highest temperature of the year so far, which is 31.8, and that would be today. if we do it, but then as we head into the weekend, i am afraid we're getting wetter, windier and more thundery. so make the most of it while you can over the next couple of days, it's turning into one of the wettest summers. >> nathan. >> nathan. >> yeah, it is. it's, you know, i've been asked this question a lot. it's turning into pretty much an average summer. now. there's quite unusual statistics coming out that said, we had the warmest spring on record. if you look at the average temperatures. and last month,
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june was, i think , the wettest june was, i think, the wettest on record. and this month, depending on what the temperatures come in at, at the end of the month, there'll be something else. but overall we've had a pretty average summer. i would say in terms of temperature and rainfall, that's not taking into account the rainfall. we're going to get later in the week with the thunderstorms. but i think what's happened, andrew, is that over the last few years we've become so accustomed to seeing much, much higher temperatures and much, much higher temperatures lasting for longer weeks of 30 degrees c and temperatures in the high 20s. and this year has just seemed a bit of a disappointment. so we're all a bit we're all a bit fed up with it. >> it is extraordinary weather, isn't it, because we all saw, well, i don't know if you could bear to watch the olympic opening games as i joked, it's probably still going on that opening ceremony. it was so tedious, but it was drenched. there was so much rain and they've had a lot of rain. and today, nathan, they can't even go in the river sane to compete in the triathlon because of the pollution. and the french authorities saying that's because of the excessive rainfall they've had in july . rainfall they've had in july. >> yes. and also not just that,
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but the excessive heat that they've had now, france and paris, where the olympics is going on part of the olympics are going on today, are back into heat wave territory with 35 degrees on the cards for the games . that's very, very hot for games. that's very, very hot for that sort of occasion. and also they are in the first in the firing line for the thunderstorms that are going to sweep into europe, which are going to happen tonight . there going to happen tonight. there are warnings in place across paris tonight for thunderstorms, and it is those thunderstorms which later in the week into thursday are going to move northwards into the uk. and we are going to get a taste of that. but yes, certainly, as you said, it's been an extraordinary summer for weather in terms of the uk and that it's been wet and then hot and then wet and then hot, but certainly over europe where they have had more heatwaves. and now these thunderstorms, and, and it's all, it all seems to be, you know, a symptom of our climate dare i say it changing before our very eyes. >> and we've been we're all very grateful that the mayor of london has issued some guidance to us all, so we know how to cope in the hot weather,
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because, of course, none of us would know that you need to perhaps have some water with you, and perhaps even have some sunblock, and perhaps even wear a hat. nathan, who'd have thought it? >> i am absolutely astonished. i know, i mean, and this is not even the most severe heat wave we're going to have. we're only really talking about temperatures in the 30s for a couple of days. but yes, there is a uk health security agency heat wave warning in place, and the authorities are warning us all to take care not to travel in the sun. i think it's a case of common sense if we if we have that any more, i don't know, looking around me, andrew, sometimes i think maybe we have lost an element of that, but a bit of common sense, it's going to be warm over the next couple of days. it's going to be humid over the next couple of days. and if you're going out and if you tend to burn, slap on the sunscreen and take some water with you. >> yeah, it's called august. >> yeah, it's called august. >> it's called july or july. >> it's called july or july. >> july, august. >> july, august. >> yeah. i mean nearly august isn't it. so nathan, just just finally we the wet weather that's coming, i mean, that is coming from france. are we going to see those storms across the country? >> right. there is a thunderstorm warning in place tomorrow. that's wednesday for the south of the country. and
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then on thursday it moves really across the whole of england. the thing with thunderstorms is this is a warning area of where they may happen. thunderstorms are very, very, very difficult to pin down in terms of exactly where they're going to happen really until hours before they happen. so no , this is not going happen. so no, this is not going to happen right across the country. but the warning area is there. and where you do get a thunderstorm, there are warnings for up to 3.5in of rain, which is a lot. >> that's a lot. all right nathan, thank you. that's nathan. i can now reveal where bev turner my sparring partner is. beverley >> oh, andrew, it's marvellous out here down at paddington basin . here out here down at paddington basin. here in out here down at paddington basin . here in london. the sun basin. here in london. the sun is shining. people walking around. hello. give us a wave. hopefully not skiving on their lunch break, and all my advice to you today is just go somewhere lovely . find somewhere somewhere lovely. find somewhere like this. this is the lock house bar down here. somebody has fixed me a nice little drink already, so i am very happy. this is my idea of a wonderful
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day. i'll be finding some outdoor water this afternoon. maybe not. paddington basin. i'm probably going to head to one of the leaders in london. this afternoon. so whatever you're doing, enjoy the sunshine. it's a beautiful day . a beautiful day. >> certainly that's beverley turner that was britain's newsroom. that's it from us. we will be back with you of course, tomorrow at 930. beverley may be back, although she may still have many more of those long drinks. she's having up next. of course it's good afternoon, britain with tom and emily. we'll see you tomorrow. don't forget, we'll be there with you at 930. if you are the sun, wear a
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water. away. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:00 on tuesday the 30th of july. i'm tom harwood and i'm emma webb . southport. as taylor emma webb. southport. as taylor swift declares her shock at the mass stabbing, the home secretary and others travelled to the site of yesterday's atrocity. we're live on the scene as a quiet community is
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shaken to its core , and radical shaken to its core, and radical islamist hate preacher anjem choudary is sentenced today at woolwich crown court. >> the islamist preacher, known for his celebration of the 9/11 attacks, was found guilty last week of directing a terror organisation , and gb news can organisation, and gb news can exclusively reveal that more than 3000 small boat migrants have illegally crossed the engush have illegally crossed the english channel since labour came to power. >> we look at exclusive gb news video of the latest arrivals today in dover. amidst it, all 3000 people coming across in small boats since the general election, since the general election, since the general election, since the new government that promised to smash the gangs, it's absolutely shocking, especially given that they've chosen to scrap the rwanda plan, saying it won't encourage people
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