taylor swift themed dance a taylor swift themed dance workshop at the start of the school summer holidays. the pop star herself paid tribute to the dead children, saying she is in shock at the loss of life and horrendous trauma, adding they were just little kids now. news away from southport tonight, a serial shoplifter who committed what was described as near olympian scale fraud has been jailed for ten years. narinder kaur travelled all over the country to carry out what the judge described as a tsunami of dishonesty against top high street retailers. she stole around half £1 million worth of items. gloucester crown court heanng items. gloucester crown court hearing the 54 year old stole from boots, debenhams , john from boots, debenhams, john lewis and tk max more than a thousand times and finally great britain have taken gold in the pool tonight, putting us seventh in the medal table. the british quartette of james guy, tom dean, matthew richards, duncan scott led from the start and

powered to the top of the podium, the us coming in second. australia stealing a bronze. it marks the third time in a row britain has won a medal in the four by 200 metre relay, after winning first in rio, then tokyo and now in paris. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. time now for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> dot com. forward slash alerts . >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans. we've got wednesday's newspapers upon which to play our game. joining me tonight we have two olympic comedy talents, gold medallist cressida wetton. and with suspiciously high testosterone for female steve n allen. have you been tested lately? >> well not for that, but other things. yeah

>> got all the signs. the male balding pattern as well. to be honest, i'm amazed you think you can get away with it. anyway, congratulations. what was your gold medal in? >> oh, what was my gold medal? >> oh, what was my gold medal? >> you're gonna have to improvise now. >> i'm going to have to improvise something with a ribbon. i think that would be. >> i was going to say i love those. the floor exercises and the one where they throw that ball up in the air and catch it. it's more like circus, isn't it, than gymnastics. i'm all for that. i like all the ones where it's a completely artistic and subjective score. yes, well, i'm really bored where it's like a, you know , the our gold medal you know, the our gold medal swimming hope was in a was in a finish in which all three were within two hundredths of a second of each other. >> you're getting down to that kind of pointless isn't it? >> at that point, it might as well. if he'd grown his nails out, he'd have won anyway. daily mail kick us off. oh, very sad news. of course, most of the front pages this evening. the faces of the innocent little taylor swift fans killed in cold blood by a despicable human being. very little argument from me there. the guardian. you can't help but cry . hundreds pay

can't help but cry. hundreds pay tribute to stabbing victims . tribute to stabbing victims. telegraph violence erupts over child killings. the i news no words can describe our devastation. the metro , our devastation. the metro, our little innocence and finally, the daily star attack of the bloodthirsty dracula flies. those were your front pages . so, those were your front pages. so, chris, how did the daily mail, along with the rest, really reflect the sadness of the country? >> exactly. >> exactly. >> faces of the innocent little taylor swift fans killed in cold blood by a despicable human being. >> it says it all, doesn't it? i mean, this is absolutely horrific. three little girls killed at a dance class taylor swift themed at the beginning of the school holidays, nine, seven and six. and they've lost their lives. yeah, because this despicable human being, we don't know who it is yet, broke into the dance class and stabbed. >> yeah, we have no information so far. no indication of any kind of motive or mental state

or anything of this. of this quy- or anything of this. of this guy. and obviously it's allowing a certain amount of speculation to flare up. yeah. >> i mean, in these situations, i think it's allowable to think mental state can't be right. no. do you know what i mean ? that's do you know what i mean? that's a safe guess in it for someone to be that wrong in their head to be that wrong in their head to do this. it's about the innocence. i look at this front page and obviously, you know, we knew the ages of the children involved, but when you see the pictures, it reminds you what we're talking about is someone that innocent should not have to be. we shouldn't even have a society where we need to protect. >> no, no, parents shouldn't have had to worry. nobody should have had to worry. nobody should have had to worry. nobody should have had to worry at all. it is indeed completely unthinkable, taylor swift herself, in fact, has, issued a statement. i have to say i found it quite moving. she judged it very well. but what a horrific thing for her to consider , very little else to consider, very little else to say on that story , really, say on that story, really, except, obviously our condolences and sympathies and so on. steve, what other stories in the telegraph? >> we can go to the telegraph

headune >> we can go to the telegraph headline no room to build on green belt. question mark. that's nonsense, says rayner. and this is the first of a series of stories where newspapers are spotting that the labour party are doing what they promised they'd do, and the newspapers are going, what? yeah, this was promised in all the debates in the manifesto and the debates in the manifesto and the use of green belt. maybe we'll come to that in a bit. but angela rayner has said that the new targets have been set, and if these targets aren't met by building on green brown sites, then you'd have to look at what areas have been defined as green belt and the uglier ones as having no useful eco components could then be built on. it's quite a long. it's a way down that flowchart, but the headunes that flowchart, but the headlines are putting it right at the top. green belt, and it shouldn't even be called green belt, should it? that was this notional idea of managing to keep urban areas from spreading . keep urban areas from spreading. doesn't mean it's green. and yet the word evokes this kind of what you're building on a pasture. >> well, it was it was an attempt to. yes, you're right, urban sprawl to say that there was a limit to london. yeah, which i suppose was long before the m25 was just a twinkle in

clement attlee's eye or whatever. whoever it was has that changed the shape of that urban planning aspect anyway, do you think? i always feel it has to some extent. do you know what i mean? there's a there's i mean, it's not going to become tokyo now is it london? >> yeah. oh, so you mean. well, i don't know. i mean, areas like dartford are now being included in the oyster zone. i think that's like step one of the ingress of london. even though parts of dartford, dartford is just on the inside of it, isn't it. but next thing you know i remember this was 20 or 30 years ago, maybe even 40 years ago. >> terrifying. i have a feeling when i'm picturing the bedroom i was in when i heard this on the radio, but i think the single best investment that bp, british petroleum ever made was buying some random fields in the green belt that then they managed to get planning permission on and it was like it was like. >> and we all remember where we were. yes, exactly that. >> but i just remember it, it was quite interesting. just because it was like bp are pretty good at investing in things, you know, but there's usually a geologist involved. this was just some fields and they went they look quite nice,

don't they? they were probably going to have to put the marquee up and have the, the managing directors, you know, 50th wedding anniversary or something. >> and now you can literally say it was all fields around here. yeah. yeah. and it actually was. >> well, i mean, that is true. my >> well, i mean, that is true. my parents live in and probably most of us know people of villages and small towns in the countryside that have expanded in the last few years. i mean, they a lot of country in norfolk, a lot of small towns have doubled in size, often quite ugly, you know , additions. quite ugly, you know, additions. i don't see why london should get away with it. i mean, i do kind of think that, you know what i mean? like like home counties green belt or why not just about london is it? >> this is nationwide. and they're saying that if the local, local authorities don't do it, they're going to be hard interventions from central government. i mean, how's that going to work? having central government turning up and saying, we think you should build on that field . build on that field. >> but this is what they said. they promised they'd crack the nimby thing. and now the nimbys are going, what? hang on, my backyard. >> well, the nimby, well, nimby, nimby is, i don't know, nimby is quite a loaded term. i think people are right to be defensive

about nice neighbourhoods. it's not about not wanting any building to go ahead, it's about wanting it to be sympathetic architecturally and to also sort of have some kind of integration with the existing town, isn't it? that kind of stuff. no, they just don't like. no, some people don't like it. but the truth is, most new build stuff is cheap and tacky and mass produced. i mean, i've said for a long time, if just spend a bit more and just go, we're going to rebuild bath. but in the middle of northumberland or something. >> i mean, they've been big on this, hasn't he? >> it was so easy. there are so many lovely towns of all sizes. yeah, yeah. >> and just say i live in a new town and my neighbours are complaining about new areas being built in it. what did you expect? this is where they are. >> which one are you in? >> which one are you in? >> stevenage. >> stevenage. >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> old town , i mean, i used to >> old town, i mean, i used to live in normal stevenage, but now i'm old town. i've been on television in stevenage village, though i like that there, which is funny because i grew up in saint albans and we used to call it snobs. >> yeah. finally, steve, something a little bit lighter in the style, >> well, you say that attack of the bloodthirsty dracula flies ,

the bloodthirsty dracula flies, he needed that scream. these are the horse flies. i've noticed. these are. they are around. there's quite a lot of them. they do seem dopey. it's an easy fight, man versus fly. we often lose because of their reflexes. so i'm less worried because i can still , i so i'm less worried because i can still, i can so i'm less worried because i can still , i can swat, can still, i can swat, >> do you have a swatter in your pocket? >> i just use the fist. i use the bruce lee punch. >> it's so addictive. you ever stay in the holiday home or something? and there's loads of flies, and you can just spend the entire holiday just watching. it usually means there's a horse nearby. >> funnily enough, i haven't noficed >> funnily enough, i haven't noticed that i'm aware of them. i mean, i'm from the countryside, i remember them, but i have flies. >> give you a nasty bite. >> give you a nasty bite. >> you don't want it. >> you don't want it. >> it's horrible. oh, they do want us to do the other story in the guardian. cressida. sorry >> excellent. okay. so they their main story is about, southport, but they've also got bad knock traumatised and bullied senior staff. so kemi's being outed as a bully. we do hear these stories quite a lot. don't we, about various people, so the front runner to be honest, at this point, if you're not bullying your staff, you know what? >> who even are you? >> who even are you? >> yeah, well, it does seem to be if you want to be in

politics, it's for the tough, thick skinned type. and of course, we've seen her roasting angela rayner. i was enormously impressed with that performance, >> i mean, obviously you know, l, >> i mean, obviously you know, i, you know, believe, believe all bullying victims or whatever, but i don't know, i think if you go into politics, you expect people to shout at you expect people to shout at you if things aren't delivered on time. occasionally. we've watched the thick of it. we know what it's like. everyone's everyone's a little bit stressed out. >> yeah. if you can't do your job without shouting, though, you know, reign in the anger. oh shut up. okay so that's a great question. >> i'm sorry i couldn't resist, it's >> i'm sorry i couldn't resist, wsfime >> i'm sorry i couldn't resist, it's time for a break. those are the front pages dealt with coming up. have passions boiling over in southport and pensioners are next.

welcome back to headliners. i'm still simon evans and i've still got a bunch of newspapers to get through. we've still got cressida wetton and steve and alan to help me do it. cressida wetton and steve and alan to help me do it . cressida, alan to help me do it. cressida, starting with wednesday's mail and the peace and tranquillity of the new labour administration, is having teething problems. i have to say it certainly is anti—muslim mob chanting english till i die . chanting english till i die. >> riot and burn police van outside mosque in southport , outside mosque in southport, near where three girls were killed in knife attack. police issue warning following sickening scenes as incorrect info about attacker spreads online. >> there's a clip they want to share. i believe .

share. i believe. >> ally pally very similar. >> ally pally very similar. >> they couldn't hear me though. i was just saying sort of reminiscent of the scenes we saw in leeds recently. very similar . in leeds recently. very similar. >> yeah. and police obviously coming away with reports of a police person with a broken nose. yeah, the police , nose. yeah, the police, merseyside police are urging people not to speculate on the details of the incident, but obviously people are just at boiling point because it's horrific . it's yeah, they're horrific. it's yeah, they're very upsetting, deaths and ongoing injuries and so on and so on. and so that's it, isn't it? it's boiling point. people are feeling very aggrieved about this. but a lot of this article is about restraining those people. >> that's the you see, i mean, it's interesting and i do understand why. although, you know, i get hotheaded as well on twitter, but there's an awful some people on twitter absolutely furious about about the level of policing or safety or whatever, like just the escalation of crime and then

other people immediately going to the or the far right are just using this as an excuse. they just want to riot. they don't really care about dead kids. well, i mean, i don't know how the far right seem to be able to organise awfully quickly, if that's if it is just an opportunistic . opportunistic. >> yeah, two things can be wrong at the same time. and that's exactly what's happening here, isn't it? i mean, we've covered the main point. >> oh, it's certainly not right that they riot. i should say that. yeah, yeah. >> no, but they should be able to spot that it's wrong that they riot because we the wrong person was named. yeah. and so now when you think you know who it is and we're not going to say the rumours that are going around online, but whatever your presumption is, even if your presumption is, even if your presumption is, even if your presumption is later proved to be correct, back when it was just a presumption, it was not a fact. just a presumption, it was not a fact . stop pretending because fact. stop pretending because you're so angry. your opinion somehow graduates to be a fact. we see. >> i see that an awful lot as well. i think there was a second man arrested on his way. it seems, to the vigil with a knife. did you hear about this? no, i didn't hear about that. this was i mean, there are photographs of this and again, i haven't i mean, there definitely

are photographs of police arresting him. and he definitely has a knife and he seems to be a muslim origin or muslim faith. so i think that is the point at which a certain amount of but what it is obviously is you're saying is it's not coming in a vacuum, is it? it's coming after months, essentially, in which people have felt that there is and sort of very hands off policing attitude towards everything from the marches in central london to, you know, but it's one of those things about ends justifying means it doesn't just because you're ends. >> you believe that goal so much that you don't mind being wrong on the way to it. no. like, i saw people online were saying, because this the person is 17. straight away people were saying, i don't believe he's17. saying, i don't believe he's 17. they're just saying that so they don't have to name him. what what what even now, what have you done now? you don't know a thing, and now you've made it even worse. >> somehow . what that does tell >> somehow. what that does tell you is what a lot of people are concerned about, doesn't it? yeah, but that's what i'm saying. >> doesn't matter how concerned they are, they're still don't know what they're of interest. >> they should be of interest to keir starmer that when he turned up today he was heckled and he was asked how many more and so

on and so on. >> and that isn't necessarily starmer's. in fact, it's not starmer's. in fact, it's not starmer's fault. he's not been in nearly long enough. it's the effect of years. but it is a it is a means of taking the temperature, isn't it. it's a it's a it's a symptom of a, of a deep sense of a lack of confidence, a lack of confidence that the police are playing a straight bat here. >> yeah . i still don't have >> yeah. i still don't have a lot of sympathy for it. you know, one of the things that really stands out is one officer suffered a suspected broken nose. when was the last time we said that out loud on this show? and that story was exactly the opposite. the airport. yeah. you know, all of a sudden people who are now rioting don't care about police getting broken noses, but i bet they did a couple of days ago when it was that version of the story. >> yeah. well that's a fair point. okay, steve, we have pensioners also in the crosshairs. now, according to the telegraph . let them eat the telegraph. let them eat cake, i suppose. >> yeah . the, pensioners like >> yeah. the, pensioners like cake, don't they? they could get a lot of it for the £1,260 a yeah a lot of it for the £1,260 a year. they're going to lose under labour, says the telegraph. there's some there's some telegraph bias in here as well because what have, what have labour done to cost £1,260.

well they've scrapped the winter fuel allowance, £300 a year. the 960 comes from fiscal drag basically by pensioners paying tax, not changing the strata at which the tax kicks in. they should £960. who came up with the idea of freezing these tax levels? i don't know jeremy hunt . levels? i don't know jeremy hunt. let's see what jeremy hunt has to say about this. former chancellor jeremy to say about this. former chancellorjeremy hunt to say about this. former chancellor jeremy hunt warned that millions of retirees are on track to be hit with a retirement tax. it's a shame he couldn't have done something about it. say, well, yes, a few weeks ago, in 2019, rachel reeves tweeted, which has been circulating again today, that it was appalling what the tories were planning to do to the yeah, you know, i the hypocrisy is equal and opposite on both sides. >> there's no point in getting into government and then complaining when the opposition oppose what you're doing or draw attention to the fact that you're come on. >> of course, there is. >> of course, there is. >> do you not think, though, that literally all that i mean, this is them continuing a tory policy. yeah. and which they criticised, which they attempted to get into, into government

because they found was unacceptable and at most, well , unacceptable and at most, well, at the moment they, they're getting around it by going, look, they're not going to do anything that they can't fiscally show all the maths on, which is a great excuse. but, you know, right now in week whatever in week 4 or 5 or something, i don't blame them particularly. >> and i think a lot of people actually in the country probably do recognise that craig snell treating pensioners as a single demographic is just not realistic. a lot of them are very wealthy , they own property, very wealthy, they own property, a lot of them have savings, they have investments, they have pensions. apart from the state pension, a lot of them are kind of doing okay compared to i was surprised how struggling you are able to take these these benefits. >> i think it's like a small percentage and i thought it'd be more people than that. >> and it's not touching the really elderly right now. i think over 80 or something or get it or they although there was a reduction because they lose out a certain amount of money. >> okay. but on this. yeah, you're right. the rich ones, why should i as a taxpayer fund their fuel. and the only thing to push back against my own point is a lot of pensioners don't realise they could be in receipt of benefits and haven't filled in the forms that needs

to be sorted out. >> i think the main thing would to be get them out of the houses and into some sort of collective area where they could be warmed, you know, more efficiently dunng you know, more efficiently during the day. weather is always good, finally , some good always good, finally, some good news, chris in the mirror. a proper jail term for a proper wrong'un islamist hate preacher anjem choudary jailed for life on terror charges. >> so he's been given a life sentence. he's currently 57. so this really probably does mean life for him, what do you mean? >> i'm 59. what are you saying ? >> i'm 59. what are you saying? >> i'm 59. what are you saying? >> don't commit any terror offences . offences. >> don't push your luck. >> don't push your luck. >> now what? i'm. what? i'm suggesting. but the problem is he's going now into the uk prison system. and he is. you know, he's in his own words. it was a badge of honour. a medal on his chest when he was, when he was called the number one radicalised in the uk. he made this speech in 2022. so what do you think he's going to do inside. inside. >> it's a considerable concern isn't it. yeah, absolutely. i mean, what would you have done. >> well, i wondered whether we could have a special wing for people who've committed similar offences. >> is that i think maybe just

stop oil, i don't know, inject his tongue with something that just swells it up slightly to make him sound ridiculous when he tries to preach, which is constantly pumping helium into what is it? >> yeah , well, we could take >> yeah, well, we could take this as a win, though. i mean, look, this is the system sometimes works, and this is not being soft on crime. >> if someone's getting 28 years, but there is there are some people, you just not only do you want them to see them punished, but you also resent the cost of the punishment as well, or and apart from. i agree with cressida , i don't know what with cressida, i don't know what it's like inside a jail. never literally physically been inside one. but clearly it's not like porridge anymore, is it? clearly people do come out of them politically and religiously radicalised. now they do have to worry about that. i don't know whether that is something that they have, measures that they can take. i do, you know anything about it? >> do you not see that episode of porridge where they got radicalised at the end? you see that one? godber? was it godbrother? was it godber? >> peace be upon him. wednesdays guardian next, steve. and they

are getting all twitchy about donald trump's innocent thousand year reich jokes. >> so donald trump repeats controversial. you won't have to vote any more claim. so previously in this election, the democrats have been saying if trump wins, that will be the end of democracy. so what have they done? he's he decides to say , done? he's he decides to say, kristian niemietz get out there, vote. just this time . you won't vote. just this time. you won't have to do it anymore. four more years. you know what it will be fixed. it'll be fine. you won't have to vote anymore. my beautiful christians . but then. beautiful christians. but then. i mean what? that could mean anything. yeah. also, previously , anything. yeah. also, previously, donald trump said on day one he'd be a dictator. and clearly that's a joke. so with this one, he means, i think the testimony i think what he's saying is, and i think what he's saying is, and i am i do think it is slightly odd and possibly like, you know, a needless create a needless bit of flank. >> i think what he's saying is that there is a large constituency of christians who don't get involved in politics. for some reason. he is saying that and he's saying, just give me your vote this one time. i'm not asking you to change the habit of a lifetime for the rest

of your lifetime. i'm just he's only got one term left. that's his . he's had only got one term left. that's his. he's had one term, so just come out and do it. and i will change. i think what he's kind of implying is that i will recorrect america's course, which has been so deviant from that which he believes a christian should conceivably want to see, that they'll be back on course. do you know what i mean? and then, yeah, not so much make america great again as make america, you know, righteous again. something of that kind, because he's i suppose he's basically saying, you know, all of the wilder extremes and fringes of woke behaviour which a christian might find worrying. >> it's going to reset the system for them so they can get involved. and i think he sounds like he's in the smoking area of a nightclub at this point. frankly, we all have such love, he just sounds, i don't know, it's very funny. >> it is remarkable, isn't it? as we there's been this i mean, only a fortnight ago, the assassination attempt and everyone was like, well, that's it, trump's won it. and then biden disappears and camilla and

camilla bump or hump as i prefer to . but that's that's to. but that's that's foolishness. but but the, that already feels like it's draining away and it feels like a real clown car race now, doesn't it? you know what i mean? it's like, oh, what is going to happen that we had the last few months ? we had the last few months? well, yeah, i can't. when was the last slick one? was it obama, romney or something like that? the last sort of between two grown ups who were yeah, plausible , could have been plausible, could have been played by actors . i mean, who played by actors. i mean, who would you even cast ? oh my would you even cast? oh my goodness. cressida. the telegraph on the other hand they have camilla pulling on her humps. as i say, i've used that joke already , but some of her joke already, but some of her more blatantly maoist policy positions, she's rowing back on a little bit. >> she certainly is. kamala harris reverses liberal positions as republicans launch attack ads. so she's she's reversing her stance on fracking, border control, health care and policing. >> so she's they're all pretty big. >> yeah. they've called her out.

they've called her failed, weak, dangerously liberal. and she's now making moves saying that she's, she's she's going to change her ways, one of those ways was , medical care. ways was, medical care. >> as soon as you cross the border , right. no. undocumented. border, right. no. undocumented. no no human is illegal and should be denied medical care. >> that sounds like one of her. >> that sounds like one of her. >> that sounds like one of her. >> that was one of hers, what was the other one you said? >> the topics that she's talking about are fracking, border control, health care, and police . control, health care, and police. well, policing. she was policing. >> that's right. she was defund the police . the police. >> yes. yeah, >> yes. yeah, >> it's a great illusion that having more police officers on the street reduce crime. she said that. >> brilliant. was it? >> brilliant. was it? >> well, maybe i don't know. >> well, maybe i don't know. >> isn't this a case of them finally working out that if you get the policies that might win, you an election, you might win the election? it might do like someone's had an idea here instead of this is always the debate, isn't it? >> do you set out your stand and say, that's what i am and that's what i do? vote for me or not? or do you kind of shouldn't. >> you shouldn't. you have as your candidate somebody whose policies have previously aligned with those which would win you an election rather than choose a candidate and then go right now,

you now have to have these policies because you're an actual candidate. whereas before you were just a the candidate's election has been very much based on someone nearly being dead. >> this has not been the way candidate selection is meant to work, is it? so yeah, they've not picked the best one. gerald ford had it, didn't he. >> did you see that clip? no. in 1988, long after he'd been president himself, he was asked by a schoolgirl. he was talking to a school, you know, as they do, will there be a woman president in my lifetime? and he said, i think there will be. but what will happen is she'll be a vice president. and then the president will die. so it was close enough. that's part two down. but coming up, germany's refugee woes and why shouldn't expect to novels about that. winning

and welcome back to headliners. so, steve, we're getting straight into wednesday's mail where merkel's legacy sounds both horrifying and horrifyingly familiar. >> yeah , their headline is

>> yeah, their headline is children radicalised in mosques, 11 year olds with knives, surging crime rate damning verdict of german child refugee charity few. because for a minute there i thought it was a brighton story. and it's going to be all good, so this child refugee, charity in germany, well, they've been saying that the children have been radicalised in mosques, joining gangs, roaming the streets . and gangs, roaming the streets. and we all know this is a clip that some people will end up putting on the internet and saying it's a bit anti—islamic, so let's do this version of it right, a bit anti—islamic, so let's do this version of it right , to the this version of it right, to the left, i'll address these points. so the guy this wolfgang bucha is going to be my favourite fake name when i need to pick it so that youngsters are being lost to the gangs. and for the ones that they deal with, there's very few muslim girls over the age of 13 in education. all right . left. so surely one thing right. left. so surely one thing that you want is women to have the right to have education? yes, you can say that you should respect people's traditions, but not when it's. if it's in your nation. so is it. >> sorry to be clear. is it the girl's parents that are preventing them from going to school? you think, rather than german authorities? not yet. >> it's not the german

authorities. it is that they they in fact, the line from wolfgang bucha great name . i was wolfgang bucha great name. i was told that parents are afraid that our western values could spread to the young girls. that's the kind of thing that we of the left should think. well, no, we like education in women . no, we like education in women. >> but he's. he's agreeing with you, wolfgang, right? he's the head of a pro—refugee charity that tries to help them assimilate and integrate. but he doesn't feel that. >> that's what i mean. and he's saying so is he saying that the muslim refugee, the parents, or maybe the community leaders or whatever you know, are preventing this rather than a lack of funds from the. yeah, the decision of the parents. >> yeah. and it's just that the headune >> yeah. and it's just that the headline and maybe because it's daily mail looks like he could immediately trigger the. are you being anti—islamic to shut it down. you feel that you find the other angles and this is about about fairness. this is the kind of thing you should fire for education and women. obviously there are other angles within this. no one really likes the idea, but this is the concern, is it not? >> with mass immigration, when you get a certain critical mass that therefore doesn't feel the needit

that therefore doesn't feel the need it has to adapt to its new country? >> i believe so, i mean, i'm listening to douglas murray on this. that's where i get this from. but that's that's the argument, isn't it, that you can't integrate very successfully if it's a massive number of people, it's like pounng number of people, it's like pouring all the flour into the sauce at once. >> and it just sits there. and that's perhaps not what i mean. it doesn't. you can't blend in enough. you know. yeah, yeah. you need a proper nutribullet to. >> well, there's also i mean, i would say this, but there's also this issue that young adolescent men are looking for something. and if you don't have sort of some kind of competent male leadership table tennis, well, that would do possibly. i don't know. but we know that nigel farage is cleaning up on tiktok at the moment, don't we, with young men because he is he kind of competent and masculine or whatever. he's the latest. yes. yeah. well, yeah, something like that. no good for him. and these guys, they've probably got a lot to offer you know, that appeals to offer you know, that appeals to young men if they're, they're masculine, they're strong. >> and they've also probably i don't know i'm kind of projecting, but i would imagine they have a sense of adventure because they've crossed half

the, you know, the world to get there. and they probably feel a little bit more grown up than , little bit more grown up than, than for their age, than, you know, domesticated house cats like a. yeah, i agree with all of that . anyway, books and book of that. anyway, books and book and news now cressida. and in good news, in my view in wednesday telegraph for those of us weary of hectoring in novels, booker prize shouldn't reward fiction for simply tackling issues, says chair of judges. >> good for him. great point here. here, so this is, edmund de waal varne, i don't know. and his panel have just announced 13 strong list for the annual literary award . and, it's literary award. and, it's they're not rewarding people for just just dealing with really important issues, which the last year's winner was, funnily enough, profit song, which we did for our book group. >> and it was just absurd. it was absolutely infuriating. >> well, according to according this, as it's about a far right party taking control of ireland and turning the country into a dystopian nightmare . yeah. oh, dystopian nightmare. yeah. oh, that sounds fun. >> i mean, it was just done in a very obvious, like, kind of, you

know, shortwave radio, a return to your homes, you know, it was like before you know it, this , like before you know it, this, this irish mother is in the middle of the irish sea paddling furiously for liverpool and freedom, you know, no explanation for how ireland, which is clearly drifting further and further to the left politically , even, you know, in politically, even, you know, in the teeth of opposition from its as illustrated by the novel, just not in the novel. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well , anyway, it's mad, >> yeah. >> well, anyway, it's mad, but, but yeah, i mean, i think the publishing industry has even by, you know, all the standards of the various institutions. and so on, become absolutely captured by a singular political ideology and consequently , there aren't and consequently, there aren't people there who are kind of going, i'm not sure this is that great. i think it just maybe, you know, satisfies your. >> yeah. well, to just balance a couple of things, i'd say, deval couple of things, i'd say, deval, because of van der waals force, which is my favourite electrostatic force. but anyway, that gives away the rest of my hand as an artist. >> and he wrote the hare with the amber eyes. i think. >> or something like that. no, the van der waals force is the

reason that geckos can stick to things. oh, okay. the electron cloud gets slightly the weakest. >> the van der graaf generator with the hair either doesn't work on us. >> well, those names . >> well, those names. >> well, those names. >> yeah, just just on your back. but i would say let the achingly middle class people have their little prizes if they want to dish out a prize for being just, like, really important. yeah, let them do it. but they don't. >> he still achingly middle class, but he actually wants a decent book to read. i think it's probably a good sign about selling books, isn't it? >> yeah, this is this is the chairman. >> this is the chairman of the committee . this is not like some committee. this is not like some daily mail journalist who's kind of going no booker prize has been taken over. this is this is the chairman of the committee who is saying that this needs everyone else who cares about this prize aching, achingly middle class who want to show off that they've read this book that really says important things, let them have it. >> there's no no one from my hometown has ever said, i want to go out of those pits. if it weren't, if i could. >> do you not think, though? it's interesting. i mean, maybe you don't read fiction. do you read mainly non—fiction and science books all science also captured scientific american, captured scientific american, captured nature, captured all of these. all of your . captured nature, captured all of these. all of your. i'm currently a hermeneutics of

quantum gravity. >> yeah. it was that it's catching . catching. >> now this is, the cycle turning talking of captured the male says marvel movies have rediscovered camp. it sounds like watching the professionals this latest one. >> yeah. so deadpool and wolverine's constant gay jokes leaves marvel fans completely divided. so the internet has been upset by these jokes. i didn't realise this was going to be on the show because i've not seen the film yet, but i'm going to watch it. i would have seen it today. it looks good. yeah, but also i love all the mcu stuff. this would have made it tax deductible. oh, i could have watched it today, but, so i technically it's mcu kind of, but it's because fox and mcu now are all under disney. so all these characters are allowed to be in the same films, but they were upset by deadpool, not mcu originally. then he must have been fox because of all the references to x—men . so references to x—men. so basically, deadpool in the previous two films had other x—men in there. okay, and the x—men in there. okay, and the x—men were owned by fox. >> oh, because wolverine is an x—men. yeah, yeah. and wolverine. deadpool was as well

vie would have. >> isn't deadpool on his? i watched the trailer today because i've never seen a wolverine in my life. no, and there wasn't any gay jokes in that. >> all it is the gay trailer. >> all it is the gay trailer. >> deadpool is kind of whistles admiringly when he sees wolverine's abdominal wall. >> so it says here, but yeah, so he makes jokes about wanting to sleep with wolverine. >> but then this is the character he wants to sleep with. everything in the second one, he moves in with that blind grandmother and makes some lovely jokes about what he likes to do with her. >> very, very funny. and it is very dark. yeah. whereas wolverine is a great person to play wolverine is a great person to play that against because he is extraordinarily terse and unamused by things, isn't he. yeah, yeah. >> but the complaint in here is that there's too much of it and it's monitored and somebody misuses pov though. >> go on, »- >> go on, >> somebody misused this pov , >> somebody misused this pov, right? okay, they're talking about , i right? okay, they're talking about, i don't right? okay, they're talking about , i don't know who said about, i don't know who said this. it's i think this is from the guardian. i hate how his queerness is only ever played as a joke and never once sincerely. and that sort of makes me think this is end of days. >> i mean, oh my god, deadpool

is a real exploration of. yes, exactly. >> there. there's nothing sincere in any of the films. >> clearly, we've not seen the first not queer who's polyamorous, isn't he pansexual? pansexual? >> well, there are salvador dali had a word for it. the polymorphous perversity, i think. wanting to have sex with everything. yeah, i think that may have been from freud, in fact. but it was in my book of dali. i first came across it. i used to sit there and ask my dad what certain words meant in this. that'd be awkward. picture a picture of a young virgin, auto sodomised on the horns of her own chastity. that was the name of one of his paintings. and i remember asking my dad what that meant. >> they didn't do that in the mcu, did they? >> do you think this might be a case of confirmation bias? >> because you sometimes people don't notice? if you talk about your wife, but if you were talking about your husband, they might. yeah, i don't know. >> i mean, the character , by >> i mean, the character, by being pansexual should be allowed to make these jokes. >> that's the rule , isn't it? >> that's the rule, isn't it? that's the i thought that was the rule. >> yeah, yeah, i agree with you. absolutely. and wolverine, if wolverine was just like camping it up and going, oh get you or

something, that might be a bit annoying. >> shining his claws, just painting the ends of him. >> oh, it's going to take me ages to heal, the independent now, steve, accusations of islamophobia in the house of imma. sorry. the house of lords peer accused of islamophobia after claiming radicals will take us over through the power of the womb. >> this is an article by the way, written by nadine white, race correspondent, which used to be john mccrory's old job, but, the so this is lord pearson of rannoch made these comments. he said that sharia allows muslim men to have four wives at a time, most of whom are having at least two children. so muslim population is growing ten times faster than our national average. i think i would be doing a disservice if i didn't obsess about the maths of this, just for a second. >> say this isn't a geometric progression. no, this is well, it should be, because look at the very least, that's us having two per generation, them having four. >> that's an eight times multiple is a four times multiple. but actually every generation gives you two to the power of n, whereas for them

it's eight to the power of n eight is two to the power of three. so you can just add the powers. so it's two to the power of three n minus the or divide by two. >> sooner or later they're going to run out of food. >> it's two to the power of two n, >> it's two to the power of two n, and there is no integer value of n that makes that equal to ten. i say to you, lord, whatever your name is, you are wrong about the maths. >> i mean, he is, quite an interesting character. he was. i think, in the 80s. he worked closely with solzhenitsyn, maybe evenin closely with solzhenitsyn, maybe even in the 70s. and the dissidents within soviet russia, you know, he was quite heroic in, in freeing soviet russia. then he became the leader of ukip briefly and then did a terrible job, recognised that he wasn't cut out for it and left. but he has he sort of ping ponged a little bit between really quite, you know, brave and righteous causes and slightly erratic causes as well, >> and now he's a pronatalist. yeah. >> well, now not now he is now he is, i think believed to be sort of part of some quite sort of underground and sort of

hardcore anti—islamic positions. but he's, i don't know , he but he's, i don't know, he showed a choice film and it wasn't one with wolverine in it. that's all the time we have for that section . that's the end of that section. that's the end of part three coming up, tubby, jong un and other

welcome back to headliners and kicking off with the daily star making a welcome appearance. now chris, a story about rocket man being a bit of a salad dodger. ironically enough, here we are . ironically enough, here we are. that was my joke of the night. >> excellent tubby 22 stone kim jong un. north koreans aren't known for their height, health concerns are sort of tent . concerns are sort of tent. they're shorter than than south koreans . koreans. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> same genetics, different diet. >> well, that's lack of nutrition. >> of course they think, isn't it? which he's probably been unusually genetically the same, but they one nation is starving.

>> although i understand he's had access to the pizza, so the dumpy despot is rumoured to enjoy the despot. >> that sounds like that's coming out of you now. >> well, it's coming from my heart. i've watched a lot of yummy park's youtube channel, and i haven't got a good word to say about this man. okay, so anyway, they're priming his daughter to step in. is she the one that went on rogan and staff and says this is what it's like? >> uni park is a north korean defector, not kim jong un's daughter . defector, not kim jong un's daughter. no, i know the defector, not kim jong un's daughter . no, i know the one you daughter. no, i know the one you mean. yeah, i think i've seen her. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. fascinating, story. she's somebody who escaped all this, and eventually it took her years. got to china and then south korea. now she's american. yeah, she does. >> she's the kind of current version of that old in soviet russia type, you have no idea that she's like the jannik sinner four fs. >> yeah, yeah . anyway, he's fat >> yeah, yeah. anyway, he's fat and he's not going to, there's no body positivity. >> so they're grooming his daughter. >> well, they're campaigning, they're making. they're referring to her as the respected as opposed to the

beloved , which is signifies beloved, which is signifies that. okay. but everybody who not everybody knows, that's a silly thing to say. the sister soul song. i don't know if i'm pronouncing that right. she's. she's got resting. i'm going to run the country one day, face anything like him. and i reckon she's she's probably pulling the strings. >> but some of them family members have been assassinated for less , haven't they? there for less, haven't they? there were a couple of one killed in hong kong airport. >> yeah, it was a chemical wiped across his face. yeah. >> steve, nominative determinism meets, physiognomy in the mail. >> yeah. be careful what you name your child. people's faces evolve to match their name. a terrible study claims . and the terrible study claims. and the reason? it's a terrible story. it sets out the stall. you've got two options. either you give someone a name and their face grows to match it. or the other presumption is that parents are really good at spotting a name. early doors. they look at a baby's face and give it a name that suits it, and therefore it's game over. and they wonder , it's game over. and they wonder, how can we test this? well, not like this. what they did was they asked people if they can guess people's names, and we're

less good at guessing baby names than we are adult names. so they say , well, that means the face say, well, that means the face must be less suited to the name as a baby. >> is that really the source of the. yeah. >> whereas actually what that means is when you've been in a society like at school, there were about five other steve's in the class. you just get used to what steve's looked like, i guess, whereas baby astrology isn't it? >> i think there's. i've said this, we have a 17 and a 20 year old. in fact, he'll be 17 tomorrow. edward and happy birthday. and. and we have discussed with them that what they're happy enough with their names, but we've both felt it would have been fine if we'd named them until they were 12, and then they get to choose. >> that's not the right age. i think it's a miracle i don't have a fairy tattoo. really? yeah >> 25, 30, 25. you choose. yeah. maybe you change every ten years, i don't know. yeah. you know , we can squeeze one more know, we can squeeze one more in. okay. the sun now, a story of anxious android users still struggling vainly to escape the web . resistance is futile. web. resistance is futile. >> panicked android owners fear

new google ad. may i feature that puts you in group photos when you weren't even there? what? so this is. my dad used to make jokes about how the husband, the groom, always has to stand on the end of the photos, and the mother in law can snip it off later. this is the reverse of that. yeah, he's a fan of yours. yeah. so this is the reverse. this is some amazing technology where you can. if you couldn't , if you can. if you couldn't, if you weren't able to make it, you could put yourself in or like when they have those old fashioned sweeping panorama shots , like for massive group shots, like for massive group photos, like the whole year of your school. >> yeah. and you can stand at one end and then run around to the back of the net twice. >> you say this is utterly pointless. get over yourself just because you're not in a photo. i've got a photoshop myself in. no, you weren't there. if you're not there, just back off. it's not all about you. although it is a perfect excuse when you could say no. it's been altered and dot dot dot to be honest, it's probably an advertising path for the feature, isn't it ? feature, isn't it? >> masquerading as an alarmist piece, which is how you get in the news. so, one last story

very, very quickly. gravel, gravel ? no, goldfish. goldfish gravel? no, goldfish. goldfish >> three second goldfish. memory is a myth. pets can recall the paths they swam on a year ago . paths they swam on a year ago. scientist says, well, we all know goldfish don't live for over a year. so how is that possible? i think it's their gormless faces. everybody thinks they can't remember anything. yeah, this show is nearly over. >> let's take another quick look at wednesday's front pages. very sad news dominates daily mail. faces of the innocent little taylor swift fans killed in cold blood by a despicable human being . the guardian you can't being. the guardian you can't help but cry. hundreds pay tribute to stabbing victims. the telegraph violence erupts over child killings. the i news no words can describe our devastation. metro how little innocence and finally, the daily star attack of bloodthirsty dracula flies. those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. my thanks to guests cressida wetton and steve and alan. we're back at 11 pm. with

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night's riots will feel the full force of the law. >> bottles and bricks were thrown. a police van set alight. nearly 40 officers injured in

what was totally violent disorder . disorder. >> the families of the victims expressed their devastation as b.b. king, aged six, elsie stancomb, aged seven, and alice mcguire, aged nine, unnamed as those girls who have been murdered . murdered. >> hamas's top political leader, ismail haniyeh, has been killed in iran's capital tehran . it's in iran's capital tehran. it's been confirmed . been confirmed. >> huw edwards in court the former bbc presenter is due at westminster magistrates court today charged with making 37 indecent images of children. >> farming crisis the new government has been accused of ignonng government has been accused of ignoring rural communities because they failed to get a mention in the king's speech >> eco protesters just stop oil targets holidaymakers at heathrow and gatwick airport. we asked this morning should we scrap summer holidays abroad to cut emissions? >> a sizzling