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streets. to disorder on our streets. next, i'll explain why. although the riots in southport were an absolute disgrace, britain's multicultural experiment is in crisis and it must be tackled before the country is lost altogether . also tonight we altogether. also tonight we called it this time last year , called it this time last year, suspect woke commentators who can always be relied upon to pick the wrong side of any argument , pick the wrong side of any argument, seem to be pick the wrong side of any argument , seem to be rallying argument, seem to be rallying behind the beleaguered star. yes, as huw edwards pleads guilty to child abuse images. charges i'll be tackling this shocking scandal at 10:00. i'll be calling out the bbc's poor handung be calling out the bbc's poor handling of serious allegations against one of their biggest stars and the lovely tv establishment who circled the wagons to protect him. plus just two months ago, sir keir starmer was condemning the tories over winter fuel payments. last year,
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the prime minister was apparently drawing up plans to remove the winter fuel allowance from pensioners. well, now he's axed them. so have labour thrown pensioners under the bus.7 reform pensioners under the bus? reform mp lee anderson weighs in on that and labour's big tax lie that's live in the studio. this hour plus not satisfied with offending 2.6 billion christians. the most woke olympics ever strike again with biological males, grown men facing female competitors in the boxing ring, i'll be joined by a top female boxer who fears that at some point a woman could die . at some point a woman could die. i'll also deliver tomorrow's front pages hot off the press with my panel of top pundits this evening, director of the popular conservatives mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooks , and best activist adam brooks, and best selling author and broadcaster rebecca reid. oh, and find out why this picture has sparked controversy . a busy two hours?
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controversy. a busy two hours? let's get to work. let's get to work. let me be crystal clear public anger about britain's parallel societies must be addressed. britain's multicultural experiment is in crisis and has got to be tackled before the country is lost altogether. that's . next. that's. next. >> the top story from the gb newsroom tonight in london. protesters have thrown flares, beer cans and glass bottles at the gates of downing street dunng the gates of downing street during a protest after the southport knife attack and riot. let's take you live to the scenes in whitehall, where police in riot gear have tried to maintain some semblance of order on the streets of london in the last few minutes, more
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protesters have been detained outside the cenotaph. we've also seen officers wrestling protesters to the ground and leading them away in handcuffs after they confronted lines of riot police. the police tonight putting strict controls on where that protest can take place and anybody coming outside those strict protocols being arrested and being taken away. the crowds, though , chanting phrases crowds, though, chanting phrases such as save our kids and stop the boats in central london tonight and we've also seen protesters attempt to kick down fences. the metropolitan police force had placed those strict conditions on the protest, and it was meant to have ended half an hour ago, keeping tabs on what's happening in for london you tonight, right here on gb news and let's reflect also what's happening in southport, where officers have called in support tonight from neighbouring forces after last night's riots outside a mosque in the town. disorder broke out following speculation about the 17 year old knife suspect that
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killed three little girls who were at a holiday dance class in southport. they were six, seven and nine years old. whilst attending a taylor swift themed dance workshop on monday , and dance workshop on monday, and anger turned grief rather turned to anger in southport as those protests and those riots erupted must be said. though, the community came together this morning sweeping up outside that mosque and rebuilding walls as the community attempted some level of calm in their neighbourhood. now, in other news tonight, the bbc has admitted they knew about the arrest of the former newsreader huw edwards, five months before he resigned in april. but the corporation said it would have sacked him if he'd been charged while being a member of staff. earlier, the metropolitan police confirmed the man who sent the former presenter indecent images of children was a convicted paedophile. mr edwards had 41 of the most serious type of photographs in his whatsapp
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messages of children being abused as young as seven years old. let's bring you up to date with events in the middle east now, where both the foreign and defence secretaries have left on a visit amid reports from the new york times tonight suggesting iran's leader ali khamenei, has ordered a direct strike on israel. iran's promises promise to punish israel is in retaliation for what it said was the assassination of hamas's top leader in tehran. israel hasn't commented on that , but the commented on that, but the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , has vowed he will not netanyahu, has vowed he will not give to in voices calling for an end to the war in gaza. meanwhile, he's also praised his military for its strike on the lebanese capital of beirut last night, which killed a senior hezbollah commander. slightly better news reaching us from paris this evening. team gb have landed two more golds at the paris games , both coming as well paris games, both coming as well in a dramatic fashion. alex yee
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says he had no concerns about the swimming in the river scene as he picked up gold in the men's triathlon, while the women's quadruple sculls rowers pipped women's quadruple sculls rowers pipped the netherlands to the post just on the finish line to secure the gold , their secure the gold, their sensational comeback putting britain fourth in the medal table . that's the news from the table. that's the news from the gb newsroom tonight . i'm polly gb newsroom tonight. i'm polly middlehurst. i'm back in an houn middlehurst. i'm back in an hour. see you then . hour. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good evening. remember the good old days when the slogan britain isn't working just related to unemployment? it's now 2024 and it seems a wider breakdown in our society is playing out before our eyes. social services try to remove children from an address in leeds, presumably because they
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faced danger. but what ensued was a riot involving hundreds of people with locals setting fire to a bus as hapless cops watched on, seemingly powerless to do anything about it. perhaps they didn't want to inflame community tensions. the last thing you want is to be accused of racism as someone flips over a police car, police officers are violently attacked in manchester airport. sympathy goes straight to the thugs. we've had those weekly so—called peace marches that feature calls for the wiping out of israel and intifada, which means suicide bombers on buses, trains and in shopping centres stop and search to find weapons seems very sensible, but that has been cut back due to political correctness. shoplifting, burglary and even sexual assault have essentially been decriminalised. if you look at the disastrously low rates of convictions, you've got mps
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facing death threats for voting the wrong way in the house of commons, you've got people being murdered for their rolex and having their mobile phone snatched out of their hands by motorbike thieves as they walk down the street. none of this is shocking. now it's just modern britain. the police punished the victims, telling us not to go out with our valuables on show or to reveal our phone in the streets. a uniformed soldier gets stabbed multiple times near an army barracks in kent. barely makes the headline . and on makes the headline. and on monday, three children slaughtered at a dance class. the violence and disorder that played out in southport in the aftermath of this tragedy was appalling, and it cannot be justified, but it's important to understand where this anger comes from. there is genuine angen comes from. there is genuine anger, genuine fear from ordinary people about our divided society and about others living in parallel communities
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where british values and even the rule of law are not respected. britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh, tweeted the following. she said multiculturalism fails when politicians cross their fingers and hope it works out. this combined combined with rampant white guilt, this combo results in southport an example of multiculturalism failing. she goes on multiculturalism must be managed and she joins me in the next hour. we are living under mob rule. who's in charge? because it's not the police. compare their response in southport last night to the chaos in leeds two weeks ago , chaos in leeds two weeks ago, when they did nothing. people are angry at the blatant two tiered approach from the authorities. just take a look at the difference in home secretary yvette cooper's response to leeds and then southport . leeds and then southport. >> unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we
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saw last night. the community is working very closely together in response to what was a local child protection incident. so appalling to now see those same police facing violent attacks from thugs on the streets who have no respect for a grieving community. it's a total disgrace. frankly, this is a time when everyone should be showing respect for a community and for the police . and for the police. >> the government is failing in its primary role, which is to keep order on the streets. knife crime is normal. gun crime is normal, and murderous gangs are embedded in every community. look at this carnage playing out in southend on sea yesterday for a supposedly happy summer day out without a tough, zero tolerance approach to crime and a proper effort at integration, bringing together our communities and enforcing british values, well then,
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without that, this great country risks being turned into a lawless hellhole. the genie is now out of the bottle. i'm not sure it will go back in. and breaking tonight. more trouble on the streets of britain, this time in the heart of westminster. as protesters clashed with riot police outside downing street. crowds have been heard chanting save our kids and stop the boats in central london and we've also seen protesters attempt to kick down fences. the met police have placed strict conditions on the. enough is enough protest. well, i'm joined now by gb news star martin daubney, who was at the protest and ended up in handcuffs . take and ended up in handcuffs. take and ended up in handcuffs. take a look . a look. >> you don't have to do my job. conditions have been put in place every day until 6 pm. you can't . seriously. so what can't. seriously. so what happened ? i'm a journalist for
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happened? i'm a journalist for gb news recording. put it. de—man. what happened? now? i'm asking . asking. >> now, martin, i know that you prefer handcuffs recreationally. so what happened today ? so what happened today? >> so i work in westminster, as you know, for gb news. >> and on my way home, to the underground is, the cenotaph . so underground is, the cenotaph. so i walked down there and i saw a sizeable protest of people that were shouting all the things you just mentioned. we want our country back. enough is enough. save our kids. and as a journalist, i often go down there and film these protests. and i was just stood right by cenotaph filming it and a few bottles were getting thrown. i saw about 4 or 5 arrests and a female officer came towards me and she she slapped her cuff on my on my right hand and pulled it behind my back. and i've got i've got to say, mark, they were absolutely fine about it. i
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explained. i was working as a journalist. i work @gbnews and a senior officer came up, said, yeah, we know who martin is. i go to quite a few of these things in my capacity as a journalist, and they quickly uncuff me. and i carried on, carried on filming. so so, there was a huge frustration on the streets. but i'll say this, mark, i understand people's frustration, but i wonder if bottling coppers in london. is the proportionate reaction to what we're seeing on the streets of southport, south end and the rest of it. so i've got to say, there was huge frustration. you can see there that that's me just getting cuffed by the copper, she was saying that there's a displacement order around here. you're not allowed to be here. i explained to her as a journalist. i explained her work to gb news and it was over very quickly. i don't know overdramatise this. i was just doing my job as a journalist and they were very fair and very reasonable with me. >> okay. and do you think though there was evidence of two tier policing in what happened in central london, perhaps compared to what happened in southport last night and leeds?
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>> i've been on lots of these protests. i was at the i was at the cenotaph protest, when coppers were putting the baton into the lads there, there's footage again of me, restraining one of the fellers there. he was about to get a severe kicking. i pulled him back, and i think i did him a favour. in fact, his daughter messaged me, said, thank you, martin, for saving my father from what could have been a far worse fate. but on the other hand, mark, i do understand that understand the deep frustration that british people feel with policing two tier policing we've seen. i've been to the protest for the pro—palestine mob, and there is definitely a feeling that they stand off and soft soap them. i went to one of those protests before again, footage on gb news. i was egged, i was harangued, i was kind of chased away. i had fluid thrown over me again in my capacity as a reporter, as a journalist, i would argue that there is a distinct feeling with a lot of justification, that we see two tier policing. tonight, for example, i've got footage of a
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huge wall of police. there we go. i sent that through earlier of riot police in the full tackle. you know, kettling walking people down the street. and we don't see that kind of footage for example, in harehills. we don't see that when there is a different protest type. >> definitely. and we also had to interrupt you feeling. yeah, to interrupt you feeling. yeah, to interrupt you feeling. yeah, to interrupt you. we didn't see it at those weekly so—called peace marches in which people were waving banners saying intifada, which means suicide bombs on buses or from the river to the sea, which means wiping out israel. martin, briefly, if you can, this march was based around this protest was based around this protest was based around sort of the mantra of enoughis around sort of the mantra of enough is enough and save our kids in a line or two. what exactly was the protest about ? exactly was the protest about? >> the protest was precisely about the incident in southport, the feeling that there is two tier police and the feeling that british people aren't being listened to. and all of this spills over and mark, they need to start listening sharpish. these kind of protests won't go
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away, and most people there were peaceful. they don't want trouble, but they want to be listened to. and we got to listened to. and we got to listen very, very quickly. >> absolutely. well, if you want to save our kids, you should probably head down to the bbc. my probably head down to the bbc. my thanks to martin daubney brilliant gb news star, who of course is back tomorrow at 3:00. three till six. what a brilliant broadcaster. and it turns out a pretty brave guy who was handcuffed by cops this afternoon, simply passing through a westminster protest. okay folks, let's get reaction now. is britain in a crisis of multiculturalism? let's get the views of the director of the popular conservatives , mark popular conservatives, mark littlewood, businessman , littlewood, businessman, activist and broadcaster adam brooks , and journalist and brooks, and journalist and presenter rebecca reid. great to see all three of you with me. my gosh, we're living in fractious and divided times, rebecca, what are your thoughts about the last 24 hours? the trouble we've seen in southport and the response from the authorities. >> i think the most important things are the mother of one of
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the children who was murdered has asked the people to stop doing this. and if the mother of the victim says stop and you don't stop, then that's not really why you're doing it. it's not really about those children at this point. and i think it's about a much bigger issue. and i think the thing that i keep thinking whenever i see this leeds now , london, all of them, leeds now, london, all of them, southport, they are different ethnicities, different religions, but it's all men. and i think if really you're going to start looking at demographics that are causing the problem, it is men at every single one of these and people are going to be very upset to hear me say that, but that should perhaps clarify why trying to boil down why somebody is behaving a certain way to one aspect of their demographic is unhelpful. is it important to understand where the anger comes from and address it, rather than call these people far right? i think far right is a very lazy term. it's like snowflake or millennial or anything else. it doesn't mean or woke, it doesn't mean very much. and what i would sometimes call far right, somebody else would not call for far right. so i think it's a silly phrase that has lost all meaning, but it thuggishness is certainly true .
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thuggishness is certainly true. criminality is certainly true. perhaps better to use that than to start using the far right, which is very watered down at this point. adam, what does the trouble that we've seen in the last couple of weeks tell us about the state of britain. >> we're in trouble and it's only going to get worse. i'm telling you, i speak to the average man and woman on the street, and there are women that are very, very angry and that are very, very angry and that are turning up to protests and are turning up to protests and are turning up to protests and are turning up to marches to because we are being labelled. i get labelled far right. i simply do not want illegal immigration tons or thousands of, unverified, unchecked, unknown men being dumped into our towns and our cities. we don't know their past. we don't know what they're here for, what they're capable of, and we've seen some heinous crimes from asylum seekers or illegals that have come over on these dinghies. and it's only going to get worse. we have had thousands already come across since keir starmer has beenin across since keir starmer has been in power. they are doing nothing and i do not believe they're going to do anything. so
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they're going to do anything. so the average man and woman on the street is fearful. i have, a hotel near me that houses these asylum seekers . we don't know asylum seekers. we don't know who's there. would i let my children play anywhere near that? no, i wouldn't, although these recent crimes have been carried out by home grown brits, of course. >> can i just ask, how does that. i totally understand why you're coming from. i really do, but i don't understand how that pertains to southport, because we don't have a name or an ethnicity or a religion for the person who committed this crime. >> three children. and my heart goes out to the parents to and these children that have been stabbed. i can't emphasise that enough. that has been a spark. it is ignited the anger that has been brewing there because we are not being listened to. we have no say in this country who gets parallel communities, how is put into our community, but how is that culture is not integrating, not using the language and sometimes, but we don't know who did that. >> i understand that completely, and i think there are parts of this country where where integration is a problem. but but this is a really weird,
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illogical place to put your angen illogical place to put your anger. this is not about that. >> it's not. we don't know. b riefly. briefly. >> my taxes are going towards feeding, housing, giving free health care and god knows what to these illegal immigrants and asylum seekers coming over here. it's got to stop. we've had enough and if it doesn't stop, you're going to see more riots on the street of britain. and they can't stop it. the authorities will. but how is that relevant to southport? >> raises a good point, which is what happened in southport. there's no evidence to demonstrate any link between a migrant and this appalling attack on three girls which is seen them, seen them slain. >> i wouldn't draw a connection there. i think that what we've got is that britain, particular cities in britain, is a tinderbox. and that can blow up through the merest spark . through the merest spark. there's not a rational line of argument of person x did this . argument of person x did this. i'm going to protest about it. and the reason there's a tinderbox is some of the concerns that adam has highlighted. but i think increasingly a view that the police are not doing their job. police are not doing theirjob. we've heard about accusations of
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two tier policing for some time, but at the top of the show, mark, i think you showed we've got a two tier home secretary >> that's actually in fairness, if you listen to the whole statement she made, she said other things. >> i'm slightly mean rhetoric is completely she said she she referred to she said that they should face the full force of the law. >> i think on the face of it, i can understand why on the face of it, people believe that leeds and southport have been handled rather differently. and the important thing to say is in both cases, mark completely ineffectively. last, i checked it will gone up a bit for people have been arrested in southport for over 50. police officers have been injured. they're nicking martin daubney in westminster. >> he didn't get nicked. >> he didn't get nicked. >> i do think briefly, mark, i think there's a contrast, for example, between the so—called peace marches in support of gaza, in which hateful anti—jewish slogans were carried on placards and in fact, at one particular slogan was reflected onto the big ben tower. >> nothing was done. >> nothing was done. >> a handful of arrests. i don't remember, but that is a heavy handed approach from the cops. why because they don't know. to create trouble or inflame community tensions.
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>> that's that's not why. >> that's that's not why. >> there are a lot. there are lots of reasons. >> but throwing a brick at all those reasons, throwing a brick in the face of a police officer is not the same as holding up placard. >> now that anti—semitism is inherently wrong, i've got to stop there. and those people should have been arrested. the police did nothing. >> see, you can see how excited my pundits are. we're coming back to this for the papers at 1030. but next up, just two months ago, sir keir starmer was condemning the tories over winter fuel payments. last year, the prime minister was apparently drawing up plans to remove the winter fuel allowance from pensioners. well, now he's axed them. i'll get reaction from reform uk mp lee anderson live in the studio. but next up, chancellor rachel reeves doesn't think her private school tax rate is that big of a deal. >> an obsession with a 7% of children who are in our private schools . i'm children who are in our private schools. i'm more children who are in our private schools . i'm more interested children who are in our private schools. i'm more interested in the 93% of children who are in our state schools . our state schools. >> well, i'll be speaking to a parent who is considering moving abroad for the good of her kids
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education. plus, we'll have a debate from both sides. sparks will fly. that's
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next. we have labour thrown pensioners under the bus and did they lie to get elected? i'll be asking reform uk mp lee anderson live in the studio. but first, does labour hate aspiration? it's time for the head to head . after
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time for the head to head. after they ignored the warnings of thousands of parents and many experts that the government finally has admitted that their vat tax rate on private schools will price some parents out of the sector. the chancellor, rachel reeves, announced on monday that private school fees will be subject to vat from january next year, and in treasury documents published moments after reeves finished her speech, the government admitted these policy changes may lead to increased costs for some parents and carers and that some parents and carers and that some pupils may subsequently move into the state educational sector. well, the chancellor doubled down when she was grilled about this yesterday. >> you do know how many children are in private education, do you? >> 7% of children are in private schools and 93%, 93% of children are in the number of children , are in the number of children, not percentages. >> do you know what the number is? >> i haven't got the to number hand, but 93%. there's an
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obsession with the 7% of children who are in our private schools. i'm more interested in the 93% of children who are in our state schools , in buildings our state schools, in buildings that are often falling down with unqualified teachers. >> and so it begs the question, does labour hate aspiration? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet us @gbnews and do vote in the poll. but before that i'm joined. now by a parent of a child at private school. linda. linda, thank you so much for joining me, linda, send me a tough conversation for you. i know it's been a stressful time. what are your current circumstances , are your current circumstances, >> i have three children, and two of them are. three of them have been in private school for a very long time. and recently i became a single mum, and to i had take one of my children out because of special needs. so i have been, working with mainstream school for quite some time now. and, you know , i, time now. and, you know, i, i find it quite it is quite
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anxious time for me because, my children, for my children, it's my choice of putting my children in the private school is not. it's not a luxury . it's a need. it's not a luxury. it's a need. because i am a full time working mum. i work monday to friday, and i'm also running my own business. i work in early years sector , so this is quite sector, so this is quite a demanding job. we do have staffing crisis massively. so which requires me to sometimes work directly with children . so work directly with children. so my children, my three children need to be taken care of. and for me private sector works very well because everything is under one roof. my children get exposure to sports, music, drama and a good socialisation and safety and security. and the consistency. most of all, it is therefore my children. >> okay. and of course, by educating your kids privately, you are saving the taxpayer a fortune . just under £10,000 per fortune. just under £10,000 per child. it costs to educate a kid in the public sector, briefly.
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linda, what impact do you think this will have on your children if they're taken out of the schools in which they're quite happy at the moment, >> it's going to affect their mental health massively. simply because it's a new change. another change, a massive change for my children because they are going to be in bigger classrooms. the facilities they had before, the exposure they had before, the exposure they had for sports. and, you know , had for sports. and, you know, what was driving them to thrive all this time? it's going to be taken away from them or it's going to be reduced. so this is going to be reduced. so this is going to be reduced. so this is going to cause a lot more trouble. so which means eventually i will have to close my business and, you know, take care of my children because possibly these three children, they cannot be in the same school, they will they will have to be put in three schools because all the schools are oversubscribed. >> and linda, let me let me interrupt you because i've only got a couple of seconds. i just want to ask you finally, briefly again, if you can. i'm sorry. we wish you had longer, but, if sir keir starmer is listening to this, what is your message to
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him about this policy? >> i think he needs to focus on the 93% of the state school. it's falling apart. there is a massive staffing issue. there are, you know, hundreds of pages of, you know, expectation for the staff to, you know, to, to support the children. but there are no resources. the trained staff, most of them are going abroad. so he needs to focus on, you know, building the mainstream before even considering putting a, you know, increasing the vat on the private schools so that, you know, parents feel secure. people like us who are working, parents who are attacked and who also, you know, help the economy, you know , we can economy, you know, we can continue doing so. >> okay, linda , my heart goes >> okay, linda, my heart goes out to you. my best wishes to you and the children. i hope that a solution is able to be found. that's a concerned mother of three. linda. they're all going head to head on this. the two good friends of mine, former labour adviser james matthewson and former adviser to michael gove charlie rowley james, are moving account there from linda.
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this policy doesn't make any sense, does it , sense, does it, >> well, don't try and loop in, linda's kind of suffering with the policy . not linda's kind of suffering with the policy. not making linda's kind of suffering with the policy . not making sense, linda's kind of suffering with the policy. not making sense, i think. mark, i think there's two separate things here. i think linda's story is, is understandable . and i think understandable. and i think single parents. i think we should pay credit to them because my mum was a single mum, and raised me as well. i go to school, but i understand how challenging that job is. but we must acknowledge you, linda pointed out at the end of her contribution that the 93% of children in state schools are underfunded, that under resourced, and the money for that has to come from somewhere. now, private schools are businesses . they they are due to businesses. they they are due to pay businesses. they they are due to pay tax. they exempt from paying vat under these circumstances it's no longer viable for them to be exempt from that. and the business models of these schools should build that into they should build that into they should take that into account. they should build that into their to interrupt you.
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>> james, it's deeply wrong, isn't it, to tax education, to tax , an organisation in a school tax, an organisation in a school that's trying to make and create bright children for the country. why would you tax that ? why would you tax that? >> well, all schools are doing the same . the state school the same. the state school sector is doing exactly the same. i understand what linda's saying, but i mean, unfortunately, all the things that you pointed out that you need from the private schools, you can get from the state. so that provision is there. therefore, it is a luxury to send your children to private school. it's exactly the same with something like cosmetic surgery. if it's something you do not need , but it is something do not need, but it is something you elect to do and choose to do. it's a service. and if it's a service, you pay tax on it because that's how our system works. >> it's charlie rowley. if parents can afford an extra ten, 15, £20,000 a year for school fees, they can afford to pay a little tax on that . little tax on that. >> well, that, number will vary.
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>> well, that, number will vary. >> and i think people just have to bear in mind that we're not talking about the parents who are able to send their kids to places like eton or winchester or harrow, who are charging very, very high fees. so people may not have sympathy for people in that income bracket who could potentially pay more. we're talking about the majority of those in the private school sector that don't go to those top end schools where you're talking even that treasury document set out that people , document set out that people, young people, maybe children with special educational needs, whose parents pay for private education will now have to if they can't meet those costs, because i don't think private schools in that particular regard operate really as a business, as jim is saying, i think they're more like charity statuses because they are providing educational support to kids that need it the most. those kids will find themselves now in an overinflated, state school sector, which will cost even more money for the taxpayer in the long term. >> oh, well, let me tell you, you both look to have been very well educated. it was an
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enlightening conversation. my thanks to james matthewson and charlie rowley. who do you agree with? does labour hate aspiration? howie on x says labour's tax rate on education will just make private education the preserve of the very rich. labour have priced out the working and middle class, mike says only for others when it comes to their own kids, they are all about aspiration. mick says. are all about aspiration. mick says . seems to me that they says. seems to me that they don't want kids to be smart anymore. they prefer thick sheep. sheep like people who are much easier to brainwash and control. future sleeve rollers with no mind of their own. just like the majority of the uk sleeve roller. what an expression i like it bit of lyricism there from one of my viewers. your verdict is in 93% of you say that labour do hate aspiration, 7% say they do not coming up, not satisfied with offending 2.6 billion christians. the most woke olympics ever strike again, with biological males facing female competitors in the boxing ring.
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we'll debate that shortly. plus, as a kurdish migrant faces jail for trying to push a stranger in front of a tube train, should we be paying for another foreign criminal in our jails? or should this monster be deported ? but this monster be deported? but next up , just two months ago, next up, just two months ago, sir keir starmer was condemning the tories. he was furious about winter fuel payments. >> last year, the prime minister was apparently drawing up plans to remove the winter fuel allowance from pensioners , and allowance from pensioners, and now he's axed them. >> so have labour thrown pensioners under the bus reform uk mp lee anderson reacts with me live in the studio
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next. the most woke olympics in history. strike again. two male boxers smashing up women in the ring. we'll debate that with my top pundits in just a moment. but first, we welcome reform uk's chief whip lee anderson mp . uk's chief whip lee anderson mp. already it looks like labour's election promises may not have been worth the paper that they were written on. despite promising not to raise taxes on working people , chancellor working people, chancellor rachel reeves has now admitted she will raise taxes in the autumn budget . autumn budget. >> look, i think that we will have to increase taxes in the budget. we will have a budget on the 30th of october and ahead of
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that budget, we will have a forecast by the office of budget responsibility on this occasion, based on accurate numbers. are you ruling any of those out now as we speak? i'm not going to write a budget or start to write a budget. >> there you go. well, of course that's a standard line. lee anderson, good to see you. congratulations on your election victory. thank you. haven't seen you since the 4th of july. and you've got your job now as the unofficial opposition to call out labour's double standards on tax. and frankly, their misinformation. >> well it is well it's just a pack of lies. >> i mean they've had 14 years mark to get ready for government. they've been banging on for the last 14 years about the about the austerity, about , the about the austerity, about, you know, about the taxation system. we've got the highest tax since the second world war. listen, three weeks after being elected, what have they done? they've took £400 off pensioners for the winter fuel allowance. they've reneged on the £300 saving on people's energy bills. they're giving billions away to foreign countries for the green. this lunacy, this, this net zero journey. it just told the public
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a complete pack of lies. and i've had pensioners contacting me this week that absolutely furious. and some that's even voted labour are saying to me they will never vote labour again. the trust is gone. you know sir keir and this rachel reeves she should hang her head in shame and apologise to the british public and resign. it's an absolute disgrace. >> however, of course labour have inherited a broken economy thanks to the conservatives. you were a conservative mp two years ago. >> i was a conservative mp, not just two years ago, but probably about six months ago. yeah, yeah, but like i said before, mark, they've had 14 years to get ready of this. they had the books they keep saying they've not. they didn't realise how bad the economic situation they're making is it. >> no, no. rishi sunak's mess liz truss and your mate boris johnson, they, they made promises during the election that they would not raise taxes. >> they would not stop the winter fuel allowance and what they've done. hey presto. >> three weeks later they said they wouldn't raise vat, income tax and national insurance. they stuck to that. >> listen, mark, you're a clever man. you're an intelligent man, or so i've been told you know what's coming. they're going to
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hit the poorest. all they've donein hit the poorest. all they've done in the first three weeks of government is attack our pensioners, who have put a shift in for the past 50 years. it's an absolute disgrace. >> how would reform uk plug the gap? because we can agree the country is in the red. you're a great believer in us living within our means. >> well, i'll tell you what i do. i'll tell you what i do. i'd scrap hs2 for a start. >> well, we've done that. >> well, we've done that. >> well, we've done that. >> well, yeah. well, yeah. scrap the, this this net zero nonsense. it's costing absolutely billions foreign aid that needs to be looked at this. >> what would you do with foreign aid? would you? >> me personally, i wouldn't give anything. anything away. not a single, not a single penny. >> famines and earthquakes. >> famines and earthquakes. >> we're supporting ukraine. that's costing billions of pounds a year. i think that's enough. we've got an asylum system in this country. the illegal migrants that's crossing the channel, mark. it's costing £8 million a day. that's £3 billion a year. i think we're doing our share. we're giving the rest of the world enough money. this nonsense needs to stop. charity begins at home. >> how angry are pensioners going to be about these winter fuel payments? labour could
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argue that there are lots of middle class and wealthy pensioners who won't get the benefit, and arguably that makes sense when the country is broke. well there might be an argument for that, but there is millions of pensioners mark that just over the threshold to get pension credit, probably 2 or £3 over this is going to hit them hard in the pocket. >> and like i say, you know, for the past five years since i've beenin the past five years since i've been in parliament, all the labour party has done in the house of commons is say, how are people going to pay their fuel bills? pensioners want more money. they keep saying this every single week and then three weeks after being elected, what do they do? they put the boot into our pensioners and steal £400 a year from them. >> well, i've got this email from a pensioner, sandy, who said good afternoon mark. i'm furious. i've just been told rachel reeves will still receive her £3,400 heating allowance as an mp, even though she has taken away ours. this is only just the start. could this be looked into? please is that true that mps get a winter heating allowance? >> no, i don't get any winter heating allowance. >> let's hope that's not true. but how is this going to go down
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amongst pensioners? they've got amongst pensioners? they've got a long memory in five years time they'll remember this won't they? >>i they? >> i think i mean, look back to the 2017 election, when theresa may announced the dementia tax that really backfired on her pensioners. do not forget and don't forget, mark, that pensioners vote, you know, they go out and vote religiously. every single election. they're furious at the moment. you know, people like my parents, you know £400 to them is a lot of money. it's a lot of money to people in ashfield who rely on that money to pay their fuel bills. and like i said before, the labour party have been consistently asking over the past 4 or 5 years for people to get extra support on their fuel bills because, you know, gas and electric has gone through the roof. and what do they do? as soon as they get in government, they take £400 off pensions. >> they didn't mess up the economy, though, did they? >> no, no, but they didn't create the deficit. >> and the national debt now over 2 trillion. >> a fair point, but it's a tory debt. you can't campaign over the past few years to say we need to give people more money and more support on their fuel bills and then, you know, actually, i think it was wes
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streeting about six weeks ago, said they would not cut the winter fuel allowance. then three weeks after being elected, what do they do? they backtrack. they've lied to the public. they've lied to the public. they've lied to the public. they've lied through their teeth and they've stolen £400 off of our pensioners. >> listen, a brilliant debate, lee. you're looking well. you're on fire. you are the official opposition. >> more power to you. more. thank you. mark. >> my thanks to lee anderson mp. >> my thanks to lee anderson mp. >> lots more to come. are we doing boxing next? this is an extraordinary story. you will not believe this. first of all, huw edwards at ten, i'll be reacting to the horrific development in that story as he pleads guilty to looking at images of child abuse that is, at ten. it's a story that i wasn't afraid to talk about a year ago. i got dogs abuse for covering it . well, i'll have my covering it. well, i'll have my response at ten. you won't want to miss it. plus more disorder on the streets of britain as protesters throw bricks at police in hartlepool. but next up , males in police in hartlepool. but next up, males in the ring against females the world gone mad? we'll debate
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next. i'll be dealing with huw edwards in no uncertain terms at 10:00. but first, a huge protest has broken out in hartlepool as demonstrators throw bricks at a line of riot police. witnesses say a metal beam has been launched at officers during the unrest . men launched at officers during the unrest. men in launched at officers during the unrest . men in balaclavas are unrest. men in balaclavas are said to be hitting the police officers with huge wooden bats. this is very worrying development. of course we've seen disorder in southport. we saw chaos and disorder in leeds a couple of weeks ago. we've seen violence at manchester airport. have the police lost control of law and order in this country? let's get the views of mark littlewood, adam brooks and rebecca read, mark, here we go again. what is going on? >> well, i mean, look, as we were just saying earlier in the show about southport and leeds, i think there is this undercurrent of discontent and angen undercurrent of discontent and anger. a belief that over a whole series of incidents, the
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police have not done their job, are not protecting the right people. rebecca makes the fair point that there isn't a direct logical cause and effect. there isn't a specific thing that people are complaining about. it is anger at the way policing has taken place and are feeling. i think that we are sort of losing control of the country, that no one's really in charge, that britain is fraying at the edges, that social breakdowns occurring and our politicians and authorities don't appear to have much of an answer to it and to some don't appear to be even handed the indigenous brits believe they are treated differently to immigrants or ethnic minority communities. now, whether that's true or false, the fact that people believe it is what matters. it's not just that adam, adam, adam. it's got to be seen to be done. >> is this a crisis of the melting pot society? a crisis of multiculturalism? >> 100%. and it's . i tell you, >> 100%. and it's. i tell you, i'm very angry. i speak about a lot about these illegal
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immigrants, what they get when they come here. we have poor people in this country that are struggling to feed their kids. if you come over here on a dinghy, you get a free bed, you get free housing, you get free food, free healthcare, free travel. you get treated basically like a king. and yet we have got people doing 3 or 4 jobs that are struggling to feed their kids , and they're getting their kids, and they're getting nothing. and i do not trust this government. i didn't trust the last government or the senior police in this country to protect me and my family or my community. and unfortunately, these poor officers that are on these poor officers that are on the front line today and yesterday are taking the brunt of anger that is really directed at the hierarchy and the government of this country. and i do not condone that. and i condemn the actions of trying to hurt police officers and setting cars alight. of course, that is going to get us nowhere, but this is going to get worse . and this is going to get worse. and it's because the anger on the street is boiling up. if i am
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angry, if your average man and woman is angry, people that maybe are a little bit extreme are going to be even angrier. >> rebecca reid, do the public have good cause to be angry? >> i think there are lots of reasons to be angry. i think being broke is the thing that makes people angriest. i think being not being able to buy small things that make your life happy, and also that constant low level stress about poverty and about keeping a roof over your head. >> what about a sense of injustice to see people entering the country illegally and not sent back that i think is a it's a it's a difficult one because i think it's often used to make people angry in a way that they shouldn't necessarily, because there are people in this country who have more than you do not costing. >> if it's costing £3 billion a year to accommodate illegal migrants, then maybe they should be angry. >> and absolutely, we need to clear the backlog and we need to make our processing faster. but that's not really the main reason people are struggling in this country. it's more about how wealth is structured. and i think certainly this idea that certain people get away with more is absolutely not true. i can tell you as a as a posh white woman, that i get away
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with more than most people demographically, i get away with, i never get stopped for anything. so it's not fair to suggest that brown people are somehow being handed free reign to commit crimes. that's absolutely not true. >> the question to my view, cost of living has been a problem, but it is the perception that there isn't even handedness that really causes outrage, right ? we really causes outrage, right? we usually have the stiff upper lip, you know, keep calm and carry on. but if we don't think that the system is fair and even handed, that breeds. but i think thatis handed, that breeds. but i think that is right wing nutters stirring up trouble on the internet, telling you the reason your life's not fair is because the brown people take things away from you . away from you. >> the police are too mean to you, and people are not smart enough to be. media literacy is so low. >> is it racism? these, these? >> is it racism? these, these? >> no, no, it's people being sold snake oil. it's people being told the reason you're pooris being told the reason you're poor is because someone cheated you. rather in leeds we see our police force running away. >> in southport we see them with batons and dogs. two tier policing and that is going to go gotcha . more problems. gotcha. more problems. >> next up as he pleads guilty to child abuse image charges. i'll be tackling the huw edwards
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>> good evening. it is 10:00. this is patrick christys tonight with me, mark dolan. i'm with you for the next two nights. we called it this time last year. aspect woke commentators who can always be relied upon to pick the wrong side of any argument, seem to be rallying behind the beleaguered star as huw edwards pleads guilty to looking at images of child abuse. i'll be
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tackling this shocking scandal in just two minutes time. i'll be calling out the bbc's terrible handling handling of serious allegations against one of their biggest stars and the lovely tv establishment who circled the wagons to protect their own . plus, after a their own. plus, after a breakdown in law and order over recent weeks, has britain's multicultural experiment failed? i'll get the views of britain's strictest headteacher. the fearless and honest katharine birbalsingh , who says it's wrong birbalsingh, who says it's wrong to label everyone who protested in southport as far right, pointing to ordinary people worried about a lack of integration in our society. it's the conversation that no other channel wants to have but we'll be doing it later this hour. plus shocking footage shows the moment a kurdish migrant pushes a stranger onto tube tracks. but as he's found guilty of attempted murder, should the taxpayer be footing the bill for
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another foreign criminal in our prisons, we'll debate that as i deliver tomorrow's front pages with tonight's top pundits. this evening, the director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood , businessman and littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooks , and author activist adam brooks, and author and broadcaster rebecca reid . and broadcaster rebecca reid. oh, and i'll tell you why this picture has caused a bit of uproar. a busy hour to come. let's get to work . let's get to work. the bbc and woke media luvvies who protected huw edwards should be ashamed. i'll be dealing with them . next. them. next. >> the news tonight from the gb newsroom is that protesters have thrown flares and bottles at the
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gates of downing street tonight in a demonstration of anger in response to the deaths of three little girls in southport. these were the scenes earlier on tonight in whitehall with police in riot gear attempting to contain the protests by imposing strict conditions on marchers and in the last hour, we've seen further protests bubble up in hartlepool, where police have had to take to the streets in riot gear. and there also are reports circulating on social media of unrest in north manchester, where police have deployed helicopter support following protests outside a hotel where the protesters believe asylum seekers are being housed well in london, officers wrestle protesters to the ground and led them away in handcuffs after they confronted lines of riot police shouting stop the boats i meanwhile, there have boats! meanwhile, there have been some disturbances in southport. officers have called in support from neighbouring forces after last night's riots outside a mosque in the town. disorder broke out last night
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following speculation circulating on social media about the 17 year old knife attack suspect, who killed the three girls at a local summer holidays dance group on monday. today, police were given more time to question him. he remains in police custody. meanwhile, the england footballer anthony gordon has donated £10,000 to the young victims in southport. the 23 year old merseyside born star has pledged the amount to a gofundme account set up by the dance community in response to the tragedy. the three girls, aged six, seven and nine, were killed while attending a taylor swift themed workshop on monday with the star herself sending condolences and expressing her shock at what happened. that fund has now reached over £300,000. now, in other news, tonight , the bbc admitted they tonight, the bbc admitted they knew about the arrest of the former newsreader huw edwards. five months before he resigned in april of this year. but the
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corporation said today in a statement it would have sacked him if he'd been charged while being a member of staff. earlier, the metropolitan police confirmed the man who sent the former presenter indecent images of children was in fact a convicted paedophile. mr edwards had 41 of the most serious type of abuse photographs in his whatsapp messages, including one of a child as young as seven years old. let's bring you up to date now in events in the middle east where both the foreign and defence secretaries are on a visit amid reports from the new york times tonight suggesting iran's leader ali khamenei, has ordered a direct strike on the country of israel. is iran's promise to punish israel is in retaliation for what it said was the assassination of hamas's top leader in tehran. israel hasn't commented, but the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has vowed he won't give in to voices calling for an end to the
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war in gaza. meanwhile, he has also praised his military for its strike on the lebanese caphal its strike on the lebanese capital, beirut last night, which killed a hezbollah commander. just lastly, conor mcgregor has been banned from the roads for two years for dangerous driving. the world famous fighter was charged with several motoring offences following an incident in dublin in march 2022. he was also fined and handed a five month suspended sentence . that's the suspended sentence. that's the latest from the gb newsroom. i'm back in an hour. see you then for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good evening. this time last yeari >> good evening. this time last year i got dogs abuse for daring to cover the huw edwards story and ask important questions about a man who was the face of
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the bbc and one of the highest paid stars at the corporation . paid stars at the corporation. the sun newspaper's brave public interest investigation discovered that edwards had paid a vulnerable youngster a huge amount of money for explicit images with the young person's worried parents saying his life had been ruined. plus, there were serious allegations of inappropriate behaviour towards bbc colleagues. so call me old fashioned, but i thought it was worthy of comment . after the worthy of comment. after the shocking news today that edwards has pleaded guilty to looking at images of child abuse, i'm glad that i stood my ground. i'm glad that i stood my ground. i'm glad that i stood my ground. i'm glad that i reported the story on this show. fair play to my team, liam and the gang for working on this with me and the channel itself. gb news for being so strong on this. here is an excerpt from my opening
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monologue on the 13th of july of last year, 2023. suspect woke commentators who can always be relied upon to pick the wrong side of any argument, seem to be rallying behind the beleaguered star. >> i think it would be a crying shame if this is the last we see of huw edwards on television, when the allegations have turned out to be. not that much, but what we're seeing right now is the pompous, woke, negroni swilling establishment media elite closing ranks and protecting their own, as they always do. >> but the alleged victims, seven and counting, must have a voice to. well, the selective morality of woke media luvvies has come back to haunt them. jon sopel , emily maitlis and others sopel, emily maitlis and others who condemn the sun newspaper for their courageous journalism on the edwards story. well, they've gone strangely quiet today. this story is first and
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foremost a nightmare for edward's victims in those horrific images. but it's also a nightmare for his well—heeled establishment mates, who defended him. and it's a nightmare for the bbc, who sat on their hands for far too long as the serious allegations about one of their biggest stars mounted up. the truth is that channels like gb news and papers like the sun must always be to free speak truth to power and to investigate and call out the behaviour of the rich and famous , behaviour of the rich and famous, many of whom would have you believe that they are such better human beings than you and me? will you tolerate any more smugness from the bbc now, after the behaviour of one of their biggest stars, the man who was the face of the queen's funeral, the face of the queen's funeral, the king's coronation and the general election, and the now disgraced man who was paid almost half £1 million last yean almost half £1 million last year, including a 40 grand pay rise whilst not even on air.
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your money, by the way. shame on huw edwards and shame on those around him for seeking to suppress the truth . now, your suppress the truth. now, your reaction to what i've got to say? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay with me this evening with ringside seats to all the big stories of the day. the director of the popular conservatives , mark littlewood, conservatives, mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooks, and author and journalist rebecca reid. good to see all three of you, well , see all three of you, well, adam, where to start with this story? so many high profile media elites , individuals media elites, individuals defended huw edwards at the time. i got dogs abuse for covering the story . thank god covering the story. thank god i did same. >> i sat on this settee and to be fair, i give huw edwards hell, rightfully and based upon based upon serious allegations that he faced. yes and i was called
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hateful. i was called on twitter as a homophobe because of the allegations. and now we learn that he had 41 indecent images of children on his phone, of which he's pleaded guilty to making three images. seven of the images were category, category a, which is the worst possible child, paedophilia images, which include penetration or sexual intercourse with an animal or sadism. now this is disgusting, it's indefensible. and it really does turn my stomach that we have a man that was paid half £1 million from our licence fees involved in such a scandal, and i think the bbc have a lot to answer for, and there needs to be an internal investigation. and rebecca read the first instinct of woke media luvvies
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was to circle the wagons and protect their own. >> i mean, in the tweet that you refer to when you covered it, you opened the tweet. we wish huw edwards well. >> well, that's because that's because he was allegedly suffering from a mental health. had gone into hiding. >> so you, like a lot of people, didn't jump to say he is evil. he is bad because that's not what we do. >> i said he had a story. >> i said he had a story. >> i said he had a story. >> i was told not to cover it at all when away from it, but for good reason, because we didn't know the full facts and because it is illegal and you can completely destroy a case against somebody who has done something evil if you report on it incorrectly. >> a lot of what people in this a lot i'm going to say media literacy again for the second time this evening, a lot of people in this country seem to think there's collusion, that the press wants to silence things. that is not true. there are very, very strict laws about how you report on things when a case is ongoing. true it is. >> sorry, what part is not true? >> sorry, what part is not true? >> you cannot make random accusations about somebody on television when they are being investigated. >> the former editor of the sun, david yelland, gave loving
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praise to huw edwards. he said this is huw edwards darkest, darkest hour. he'll be back. he's a hero. >> but this was when we thought that he had paid a 20 year old. he said that this wasn't when we knew that pursuing the story and therefore by definition, by definition, gb news. but we're talking about two different things. when we thought that he had paid a 20 year old for images, that is gross. but that is not illegal. this, this, these details is a different conversation. nobody was defending somebody having images of child abuse on their phone. nobodyin of child abuse on their phone. nobody in the media thinks that's acceptable at all. >> you might have thought that. i appreciate that. emily maitlis, jon sopel , lewis maitlis, jon sopel, lewis goodall and the rest are afraid. >> alan rusbridger, sort of friends of huw edwards or were friends of huw edwards or were friends of huw edwards or were friends of huw edwards and therefore, i guess until until about 24 hours ago, until about 24 hours ago. >> so i guess there's a natural instinct to, as you say, circle the wagons . instinct to, as you say, circle the wagons. but i'd say two things about it. first, without condemning somebody on suspicion or rumour when the first story broke, i think you probably got to ask yourself internally, is there likely to be more there
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than just this, or is this a complete one off incident that didn't seem to cross their minds? and as you say, i've been looking throughout the day not over the last couple of hours. mark, have they said anything since, no they haven't. >> well, the ones who are the ones who are employed by the bbc. n0, ones who are employed by the bbc. no, no, no the news would not be allowed. yeah. i'm not i didn't say she was i said the ones who are the most high profile critics are the sun's approach to this story. >> coverage of it were were jon sopel and emily maitlis, who have been silent today. >> they should have said something today that's look , if something today that's look, if you do get something badly wrong as a journalist , they should as a journalist, they should come out and say that they did. >> no, i meant something badly wrong. >> they covered a different story. they are talking about. they are they are talking about a different story. they went in, they were talking about a 20 year old man and the boy in question. are you dismissing these alleged crimes against a youngster, a youngster? >> are you suggesting that i am dismissing them? >> you're suggesting that i'm dismissing child abuse? no. >> you sound like you are underplaying the allegations. >> you think i'm underplaying you think i don't care about
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child abuse because i care about media law? what a ridiculous, spunous media law? what a ridiculous, spurious thing to say. >> let me be very clear that you talked about the allegations he faced a year ago as unproven and not to do with children. when you with a 20 year old, with a 20 year old, he has admitted to doing today, the 20 year old's parents came out and said it was a consensual relationship that is a different situation. >> turned out to be a 20 year old is different from child abuse , the parents said of this abuse, the parents said of this alleged child. >> young person. the parents said it's destroyed that young person's life and that that young person was a vulnerable, but that it was consensual, so not illegal. >> and when this new when the child playing it. no i'm not they are different allegations. a 20 year old man is different from from children. oh that's okay. child abuse is completely different. >> 20 year old is that it? that's not a problem. the face of bbc news. >> it's completely different. sum of money. >> when did i say it wasn't a problem? you know what? i'm not about this anymore because you are deliberately misinterpreting what i'm saying. because this is so unprofessional to me. i am
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being so clear here. i am saying it is not illegal. i did not say it is not illegal. i did not say it was acceptable. i would never say it was acceptable. i was saying it wasn't illegal. >> rebecca, finish. >> rebecca, finish. >> rebecca's done. >> rebecca's done. >> so the surprise of virtually no one who i think reflected upon this. turns out there's a lot more to the story now. we couldn't have known that, but it doesn't strike me as leaping to a completely irrational conclusion . i am wholly conclusion. i am wholly unsurprised that there was a whole i don't know, huw edwards, but i'm wholly unsurprised that there's a spate of other things that have come out, and he has been pleaded guilty to at least this tranche of them in court today. i am unsurprised about that. jon sopel, emily maitlis, apparently the leading journalists of our times, completely amazed and who knew him well , who knew completely amazed and who knew him well, who knew him. >> okay, yeah, i've got to say one thing. >> the mental health card that is getting played by huw edwards. >> well, we don't know that he's playing a card. he may have mental health issues this is so disrespectful to the victims in those photos. >> who cares about the mental health of those poor children
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that were in those images? and rebecca, every that's what every single sex offender does. >> they all play that card. >> they all play that card. >> it's disgusting. right rebecca. >> now, crucially, i accept the distinction you've made, okay? and therefore i withdraw any suggestion that you've underplayed those serious original allegations which you consider it serious, just like i do. so we agree on that. but do you share my concern that these high profile media figures, some of the most famous journalists in the country, including sopel and maitlis, condemned the sun newspaper for reporting on the allegations that faced huw edwards a year ago. >> the person i condemn is hugh homewards, because that is a disgusting thing to do. >> do you not condemn them for attacking a newspaper for doing theirjob? their job? >> i don't theirjob? >> i don't think it's the most interesting or important topic here. what he did is unforgivable. >> politician i need a i need a straight answer. do you condemn their comments about the sun's reporting of the allegations against huw edwards? >> i haven't seen their comments in full, so i wouldn't be able to locate them. >> they said that the approach of the sun. >> i believe that reading the expression from jon sopel, i can help you. i've got a good memory, is that they should hang
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their heads in shame. >> i would want to see the whole context of the whole comments to be able to comment on them. >> we can agree that jon sopel and emily maitlis have not contributed greatly as journalists to getting to the bottom of this story or to the truth. >> okay, they put their head above the parapet and they look idiots. and one thing i just want the audience to realise is that one of those pictures on huw edwards phone was a kid aged 7 to 9 years of age. that is disgusting and that is unfair and he should rot in prison for it. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and on that we can agree a bbc spokesperson has said it was made aware in confidence that huw edwards had been arrested on suspicion of serious offences and released on bail, whilst the police continue their investigation. at the time, no charges have been brought against mr edwards and the bbc had also been made aware of significant risks to his health. in the end, at the point of charge, he was no longer an employee of the bbc. coming up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages a kurdish migrants who tried to kill a stranger by pushing them in front of a tube should he be immediately deported. and next, after a breakdown in law and order over recent weeks, has
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britain's multicultural experiment failed? i'll get the views of britain's strictest head teacher, katharine birbalsingh, who says it's wrong to label everyone protesting in southport as far right, pointing to ordinary people worried about a lack of integration in our society. it's the conversation no other channel wants to have, and we'll be having it
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next. welcome back. tomorrow's papers on the way. but first, southport and this town was rocked by violent disorder last night after hundreds of people gathered outside a mosque just hours after a peaceful vigil was held to remember the three young girls killed whilst attending a taylor swift dance class earlier this week. while many were quick to label everyone protesting as far right, britain's strictest headteacher, the headmistress of michaela community school , michaela community school, katharine birbalsingh, saw it differently, writing on x multiculturalism fails when politicians cross their fingers and hope it works out. combined with rampant white guilt, this combo results in southport, an example of multiculturalism failing . multiculturalism, she failing. multiculturalism, she goes on, must be managed and i'm delighted to say that katharine birbalsingh joins me now .
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birbalsingh joins me now. katherine, what is your view of the commentary around last night's trouble in southport and the labelling of those protesting? as far right? >> well, of course there will have been some far right protesters there and rioters, and all of the violence is shocking. and obviously the targeting of the mosque is awful. the term far right is often thrown about relatively liberally . i am often called far liberally. i am often called far right. for instance , i'm now right. for instance, i'm now being told that i'm helping the far right, i'll tell you what helps the far right multiculturalism that fails . and multiculturalism that fails. and the thing about multiculturalism is that it's difficult to make it succeed. we make it succeed. at my school, michaela, in wembley. and that's because we handle it very carefully and we understand the necessity of having an overarching culture that all of the children buy into and that they will sacrifice things that are that
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they think are really important for themselves in order to better the whole. and that is what we require from everyone. now that when we do that, multiculturalism succeeds. so i'm not somebody who says multiculturalism is always going to fail. but in for order it to succeed, we need to stop this business of just throwing this term far right around, because what it does is it says those people are simply unacceptable. multiculturalism is great except for those people. and if we get rid of those people, we'll be fine. and i, i think that that's problematic because it's undermining what we all want, which is for us all to get along with each other. >> most definitely do those. on the political left have a blind spot when it comes to the challenges around multiculturalism ? multiculturalism? >> yeah, i think some of them do. i think some of them are willing to listen. but to be honest, i think people on the right also have this blind spot. so what i find is when i try and
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put forward this argument, which is that multiculturalism needs careful, looking after people on the right, say no , the right, say no, multiculturalism is failing. it's awful. there's nothing that can be done about it. and then there's people on the left who say , what are you talking about? say, what are you talking about? multiculturalism is wonderful. all we need to do is throw everybody into a big pot and just let it go. and everything is lovely. apart from these very evil people on the far right who are trying to undermine the wonderful experiment that is multiculturalism . and wonderful experiment that is multiculturalism .and i wonderful experiment that is multiculturalism . and i just multiculturalism. and i just think both sides are wrong. i think both sides are wrong. i think there's a middle ground, which is that multiculturalism isn't easy. precisely because people are coming with all kinds of different ideas , different of different ideas, different religions, different cultures, different ways of doing things. and so we need to find what do we have in common that we can make sure that we are all valuing and protecting. and then sometimes when those cultures might clash on certain issues, we say, you know what? it's not
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so important my thing. i'm going to let it go. so as an example, at michaela, our school, we have at michaela, our school, we have a vegetarian lunch . and the a vegetarian lunch. and the reason for that is that we've got some children who eat meat but no pork, some children who eat meat, but no beef. it's quite difficult for us to make our family lunch work. so, you know, we all go vegetarian and then it works. we all sacrifice something for the betterment of the whole. >> catherine, what is your view of current levels of legal and illegal net migration and the impact that that may have on social cohesion if people are coming into the country with different cultures and different ways of doing things, that the country needs to be able to absorb them at a rate where it doesn't upset the balance of the whole, so that is a problem. >> but what i always say is the right often concentrates simply on the immigration issue , which on the immigration issue, which is an issue, but it is also the case that our schools are , case that our schools are, teaching our children. and those children turn into adults. and
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if those children , whatever if those children, whatever colour they are, whatever religion they are, are made to feel somewhat ashamed of being british, perhaps given the way in which we teach our history curriculum and so on. then children, the children who become adults, are not able to love their country in a way that i think will make us successful. now, loving your country doesn't mean you cannot be critical of it. i am massively critical of our education system, but i still love britain , and i think still love britain, and i think that there's an important distinction there that we need to make, and we need to look at what our schools are doing, not deliberately, but if they are undermining that cohesion, which is so important for a country to succeed, then we need to be asking some questions around that. >> michaela, community school has been very successful because it teaches all of the students to love their country, to tell them that they are british and to be proud of that . so schools to be proud of that. so schools can clearly help, especially schools like yours . but are
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schools like yours. but are these parallel societies here to stay, do you think, with communities that don't integrate , communities that don't integrate, that don't speak the language, that don't speak the language, that don't speak the language, that don't share british values, and sometimes that don't follow the rule of law? >> well, it all depends on what we do with with our with our communities . what do what will communities. what do what will our schools do with those children? you know, that. that's why schools are such an important tool in all of this. because the fact is, we are where we are. the right tend tends to say, oh, but immigration, immigration, okay, i'm not arguing with you, but we are where we are . what are we are where we are. what are we going to do about it? right, right. that necessarily involves schools and us talking about this and talking about it in such a way where we're thinking forward thinking, how how are we going to do this now? what are we doing with this? and, that i'm afraid i think both the right and the left are not thinking in a practical way with forward thinking solutions . forward thinking solutions. >> catherine, a privilege to have you on the show, a very delicate and complex subject. my thanks to the headmistress of
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michaela community school, katharine birbalsingh . lots more katharine birbalsingh. lots more to the papers are
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next. it's next. wsfime next. it's time now for the press pack. the papers are in. let's take a look. and we start . we take a look. and we start. we start with the metro. i'm guilty. huw edwards facing jail. stabbed girl. mum's anger at riot. outrage. the mother of a seven year old killed in the houday seven year old killed in the holiday club knife crime rampage. called for an end to violence as rioting over the killings left 54 police officers injured . the sun newspaper. this injured. the sun newspaper. this is very much a story that they have owned for over a year now, huw edwards downfall guilty is the headline trusted face of the bbc, first exposed by the sun, admits having pedo video of boy
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as young as seven. disgrace huw edwards was facing jail tonight after he admitted receiving sex abuse images of children as young as seven from a paedophile. the x news at ten anchors downfall triggered yet another crisis at the bbc. we're going to discuss that in the moment, in a moment, bosses admitted knowing about his indecent images arrest last november but still carried on paying november but still carried on paying his £480,000 taxpayer funded salary. edwards, who is 62, pleaded guilty to three charges of making indecent images of children covering 41 videos and pictures. images of children covering 41 videos and pictures . a greater videos and pictures. a greater fall of grace. you cannot imagine daily mirror with the same story. edwards fall from grace hughes child abuse pics shame bbc news star faces jail for images of children as young as seven. and we've made a decision on this show, partly thanks to the suggestion of director fay that we do not use the expression child pornography. that is not what it
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is. it's images of a crime, the crime of child abuse. the independent now huw edwards faces jail over shocking child abuse. images. the guardian team gb's day of gold and drama. fears of escalation after israel kills leaders of hamas and hezbollah met looks at x murdoch chief over deleted emails and edwards could face jail over indecent images of children. the times now. huw edwards pleads guilty to viewing indecent images . paedophiles phone led images. paedophiles phone led police to ex newsreader bbc kept star on full pay after learning of arrest and nigel farage denies whipping up street riots in southport . the reform uk in southport. the reform uk leader and gb news presenter, nigel farage, insisted today that he was asking very legitimate questions about the southport attack after he was accused of having whipped up rioters by encouraging false rumours. and last but not least for now, the i bbc in turmoil
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over presenter's indecent images. let's get reaction from my outstanding pundits this evening. i'm delighted to have none other than mark littlewood from the popular conservatives. if that's not a contradiction in terms , i'm only kidding, mark. terms, i'm only kidding, mark. we've also got businessman. well, that's it . businessman and well, that's it. businessman and activist, pub landlord. maybe britain's most famous pub landlord, adam brooks, and the best selling author and journalist. the one and only rebekah read . rebekah, can we rebekah read. rebekah, can we talk about any potential reputational damage for the bbc now ? this is the behaviour of an now? this is the behaviour of an errant employee, but will they suffer any brand damage as result? >> i think yes, because with jimmy savile it did brand damage people. they're forever tainted by it. people. they're forever tainted byit.the people. they're forever tainted by it. the interesting question is when something like this happens, do we want to revisit how we treat people who are accused of crimes, particularly sex crimes? so we had a conversation fairly recently about if an mp is accused of rape, should they then not be able to be an mp? should they
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not be able to be on site in westminster? and the response was no, that's wrong. false allegations. and i'm interested that lots of people who disagree with that seem to feel that huw edwards should not have remained on payroll with the bbc, and i think we need consistency here. i personally think if you are credibly accused of a sex crime, you should be suspended without pay- you should be suspended without pay. so huw edwards should not have been on the payroll, but that would need to be more consistent across the board, think. >> i think that's a very fair point. yeah. >> mark, i don't disagree wholly with what rebecca said. there is something of a difference with mps. you are your boss or your constituents. you're answerable to , not the bureaucratic to, not the bureaucratic authorities. at westminster, mps are a very peculiar position because of that. but the bit that staggers me here is, look, he was arrested. the bbc knew about that. he was charged. he's now pleaded guilty. the test for the bbc, especially for your golden boy, is are you bringing the company into disrepute? it neednt the company into disrepute? it needn't be anything like as serious as you're suggesting, rebecca. i mean, you know, a fight in a pub, you know, an ill
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advised behaviour online could be ill advised. tweet, an ill advised tweet. you could be. especially if you are the person that brings the nation. the queen's funeral, the king's coronation coverage of elections. you would have thought you've got to be on absolutely immaculate behaviour. and it seems to me that back in november, oh well, he's been arrested, but we don't know whether he's guilty yet. the for test remaining employment in employment is not. have you been convicted of a criminal offence? yeah, it's. have you brought your company into disrepute? and i am utterly bamboozled by huw edwards was paid £48,000 worth of licence fee payers money last year , £480,000, and that year, £480,000, and that included a 40 k pay rise. >> but by the way, you would expect it to have been in his contract about disrepute, wouldn't you think? >> i mean, that would be a standard, a standard media contract. >> i'm absolutely bamboozled. >> i'm absolutely bamboozled. >> i'm absolutely bamboozled. >> i think when you're i think, rebecca, i think when you're at his level, you don't have a standard media contract. he can probably have a contract of his own making. and perhaps we need to talk about stars being too big. but i do think it's
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complicated for a channel that's very anti cancel culture to be saying that reputational damage should constitute a reason to be dismissed is usually the opposite of what our culture here is. so it is a very complicated line to tread to get it right. >> yeah. perhaps gb news guilty of double standards there. >> here's the question, adam, where does the bbc go from here? >> i don't know, because most people i speak to have a lack of trust in their reporting, in their coverage of many things, from covid to the gaza—israel conflict . i think it from covid to the gaza—israel conflict. i think it is on a downward spiral. and i don't think many people are too happy about having to pay for the bbc licence fee anymore. i think we will see within the next five years, hopefully that that comes to an end. >> i think you have to make a difference between the way the bbc reports things and the way the bbc manages things internally, because editorial is different from managerial and they're two different teams on both accounts . there's an both accounts. there's an argument to be made for that. but i think how i think how they reported on huw edwards has been legal and clear and particularly since today, completely. it's the lead story. they're not trying to run away from.
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>> nightmare for the nation's broadcaster is too often they are the story and reporting. the story too often some yet another blow up at the bbc is the by the way. >> and have you seen some might sound trivial, but they've also got a crisis on strictly, which is their biggest. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the other day they had to say the bbc was unavailable to give a comment to the bbc on one of their own articles, which was ludicrous. >> let's also remember they've got a misinformation unit that bbc verify that does not try and, investigate the bbc when there's misinformation that comes out on the bbc. i think they're highly untrustworthy. they've got they've they've really got they've really got to grasp the nettle of serious. >> you do wonder. >> you do wonder. >> i mean, they often there was the anger about why the bbc didn't refer to hamas as a terror group, given they're recognised as such by the eu, and they do now, but didn't previously. yeah, but i think they still say designated as a terror identified terror group rather than just a terror group. >> they also reported, hamas statements as truth and were reprimanded for that, i believe. what do you think, rebecca?
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>> can the bbc move on from this, and if so, how? >> i think so, but i think they need to move away from having i think any company that has like a small number of people at the top who are sacrosanct and untouchable to powerful people watching, probably working companies where they have a microcosm of the same thing. there's somebody who is a golden boy or golden girl of the company who's untouchable. we have it here and that is bad, manageable, untouchable. i thought it was me, >> your number two lineker as well. well, the other thing i would say for the for the public broadcaster , they shouldn't broadcaster, they shouldn't really have golden boys as much. >> you would think this is where you bleed in talent and someone who makes it on the bbc then goes over to the commercial sector. >> but it also should be regional. >> gary lineker, you know, gary lineker should have cut his teeth at the bbc and then gone off to a football channel. >> rebecca it should be regional. you should be able to get in to work at the bbc. if you're a local person who doesn't have a university degree and it should be much more decentralised and much more community at the moment, the bbc is very it still feels like an ivory tower that people can't
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get into with some celebrities at the top, and that is a problem. >> is there any way that the bbc can legislate against somebody like huw edwards? you know they don't have access? >> well, there are already laws against the things that huw edwards did. >> yeah, but i mean, does an employer have any way of knowing that this is the person they employ? >> well, you don't have any way of knowing that you do have the ability to act fast when it happens. and they failed to do that again. and also, if you're earning something wrong, it seems to take forever and a day to correct it. that's a problem with the big, sprawling bbc. >> and i think if you're earning that much money, you should be able to like to have saved on the basis that if you get lose yourjob like that, you can your job like that, you can still keep your costs running. thatis still keep your costs running. that is obviously different. if you're making £25,000 a year, you're making £25,000 a year, you can't pre—empt being dismissed without pay. but someone like huw edwards level should be ready for that. yeah, briefly. >> very briefly. adam, is it really the fault of the bbc if one of their employees breaks the law, which is what huw edwards has done? >> no, it's not, but it's how they react. and we've had several over the years of similar crimes, which, you know,
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is not a good look. but i'll go back to this one thing. most people i speak to do not trust the bbc anymore. >> okay, well, look, folks, let me tell you that the bbc would argue they have millions of listeners and viewers every week who are happy with the product being served up. but a bbc spokesperson has said it was made aware in confidence that edwards had been arrested on suspicion of serious offences and released on bail, whilst the police continued their investigation. at the time, no charges have been brought against mr edwards and the bbc had also been made aware of significant risks to his health. in the end, at the point of charge, he was no longer an employee of the bbc. now chart topping superstar sam smith will slightly , bizarrely have slightly, bizarrely have a painting of himself hung in the national portrait gallery alongside portraits of the royal family. but not everyone is happy about it. the scantily clad piece shows sam smith as an angel with a harp, and has never been publicly displayed before. the singer said it was a dream come true to appear in the nation's foremost collection of portraiture, which includes major figures from henry the
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eighth to sir winston churchill . eighth to sir winston churchill. is this a good look for the national portrait gallery? i'm not so sure. now coming up, should the kirghis , my kurdish should the kirghis, my kurdish migrant who tried to kill a man by pushing him in front of a tube train, be immediately deported ? or do we spend money deported? or do we spend money accommodating this individual in accommodating this individual in a prison? we'll get stuck into that. plus find out why an raf squadron has had to change its nickname to stop offending muslim people. after all that, i'll show more of tomorrow's front pages. lots
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okay. tomorrow's front pages. let's have a look at the telegraph. and they . they lead telegraph. and they. they lead with bbc paid elle edwards £200,000. after his arrest. tory councils bear the brunt of labour's housebuilding targets and don't punish patients by bringing the nhs to a halt, wes streeting warns. gp's who knew
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about hugh? asks the daily mail. bbc bosses facing damning questions. over £475,000 a year star, who has now admitted having vile child abuse images southport stabbing horror russia unked southport stabbing horror russia linked to fake news that sparked mosque riots and daily express i'm guilty disgrace huw edwards faces jail over child abuse. pictures okay, reacting to the big stories of the day, mark littlewood, adam brookes and rebecca read now to the shocking moment. a kurdish migrant tried to kill a stranger by pushing him onto the tracks at a london underground station , brass shawn underground station, brass shawn seesahai shoved 61 year old stranger today, pushed potucek at oxford circus in central london on february the 3rd. although the 24 year old homeless migrant denied trying to kill him, schorsch admitted he did it for revenge , thinking
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he did it for revenge, thinking the postman gave him a dirty look . the postman narrowly look. the postman narrowly missed touching the live rail on the southbound victoria line, and he was helped back up to the platform by a kind passenger. but the driver of an oncoming train told inner london crown court if he'd been on the track a few seconds later, he would have been killed. schorsch was found guilty of attempted murder and will be sentenced on september 26th. but mark littlewood , should this man be littlewood, should this man be deported immediately? >> well, i think that should be the default. in these cases. we sometimes have a rather quaint view that prison is about rehabilitation . sometimes it rehabilitation. sometimes it achieves that, but rarely prison is really about keeping the streets of britain safe. we've heard earlier in the programme how difficult that appears to be at the moment. so in my view, if you're not a british citizen, if you're not a british citizen, if you are here under licence, if you are here under licence, if you like, then the commission of anything approaching a serious crime should be once you're convicted, you're out. >> okay. well, i think we can agree on that.
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>> moving on. an raf squadron is dropping its nickname because it could be offensive to muslims. the lincolnshire based 14 squadron, formed in 1915, was nicknamed the crusaders after flying missions in the middle east. the raf said the decision to scrap the unofficial nickname followed a followed a confidential service complaint, which was partially upheld. a spokesman said our focus must be on not giving prominence to any offensive term that goes against the values of the royal air force. the traditions and informal nicknames used by the raf in the earliest days of the service have a place in our history. however, some are no longer appropriate in the 21st century. adam brooks, do you agree ? agree? >> i think that is disgusting. absolutely disgusting. over 100 years worth of british heritage , years worth of british heritage, you know, wiped out really in modern times because it might offend 5% of the population. this is britain. we do not
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change for anyone. why why are we so weak and why why are we having to do this now? i think thatis having to do this now? i think that is an insult for people of that is an insult for people of that squadron past and present. >> i mean, rebecca, our endeavours in the second world war and the first world war should only be celebrated, shouldn't they? >> given the fact that on both occasions we defeated fascism? >> yes, absolutely. but this is a this is a plane that goes to the middle east. and the crusades were about cleansing islam and trying to convert people to christianity. so it's not a great look and it's a nickname. if it were the official name, maybe we would understand the handwringing, but it was a nickname, and i imagine people will continue to use that nickname in private, just not in official communications. >> okay, fascinating stuff. actually, spurs fans have had the same debate about some of the same debate about some of the terminology that fans use about themselves, which are offensive to jewish people, but then the fans think it's not offensive. i'm a tottenham supporter. >> i'm a season ticket holder. >> i'm a season ticket holder. >> you know the word it begins with y. >> yeah, and that chant is in protection of our jewish fans. and that is celebrating our jewish fans. so, so you go, well
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there you go. >> fascinating. it's an interesting debate that isn't it. let's crack on though because we've got today's greatest britain and union jackass. and so mark, who is your greatest britain today apart from adam brooks, the sun newspaper? >> i was thinking about giving it to you for your brilliant monologue from the summer last year about huw edwards. that's very nice of you, but i thought that would be a bit too creepy. >> no, i'll take it. i'll take it. >> i'm actually going to go for the sun, if you don't mind, mark, for their coverage in breaking and sticking to the hugh story. top journalism? >> definitely. well, of course i benefited from the sun's work because that's how i developed my approach to it on this channel. adam brooks in great britain is the tearful team gb rower lola anderson, who won gold today and dedicated it to her dad and there was a story about a diary entry. >> it's quite emotional and, you know, i thought that was lovely. it's a great nomination, i love it. >> both strong nominations. rebecca, who's your greatest britain? >> mine is the art fund who are having designated hours in all of the galleries around the country so that children can be encouraged to attend more art galleries and more museums. very
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exciting to have more kids able to access art. >> well, my winner is the art fund because i think it's a fantastic thing to encourage kids to get out there and have a look at our great history, the museums, the art galleries, all the rest of it, and get them a relationship with creativity. plus, it gives mum and dad a bit of a break and they can run around and shout at picasso paintings. okay, how about mark your union jackass? >> i'm going to nominate for the union jackass the elizabeth line on the underground here in london. supposedly the cutting edge of public transport just been nominated for a top architecture prize on how beautiful it looks. fine but it has been plagued with problems , has been plagued with problems, delays, closures and all of the rest of it. a perfect indication of the success of style over substance. i want britain to have a bit more substance and a bit less style in a couple of seconds. >> would you bring back hs2? >> would you bring back hs2? >> no. >> no. >> good lord, no total waste of money. >> you think labour are going to? >> i mean, if they tell us that the black hole is as big as they say it is, they haven't got any
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money to do anything. okay adam, your union jack has. >> my nomination is a story that's made me very angry, very upset today. and that is huw edwards, who pleaded guilty to 41 indecent images of young children, one of which was as young as seven years old. absolutely horrific . absolutely horrific. >> and rebecca, your union jackass of the day, minus the south port rioters who drew a line that didn't exist between islam and a horrific murder of three children and ignored the bereaved parent when they asked them to stop. and it's terrible that so many police officers were injured. that's counterproductive. and devastating. really? >> yeah. don't throw bricks at people, even if they are police. >> there you go. well, look, i'm going to be deliberating on this, but i think i'm going to have to give it to huw edwards. of course, i am, because this man has committed the most awful crime, absolutely devastating the victims involved in those images will never repair the damage . and let me tell you, the damage. and let me tell you, the bbc has got a major headache as it seeks to navigate forward through this scandal, just a quick note on huw edwards. if i
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can briefly, mark, i mean , this can briefly, mark, i mean, this is actually quite difficult for the nation culturally, isn't it? we've been watching this man for years, trusted him, had a relationship with him. so for my viewers and listeners, this is quite traumatic really, to find out what he's done. >> yes it is. and especially newscasters are typically treated and especially if they've been around for years as absolute honest brokers, especially over events that either traumatised the nation or bnng either traumatised the nation or bring it together, or a funeral, a coronation, a general election and the bbc's archive of that vital historical material is now in tatters. >> yes it is. they can't have clips of the queen's funeral or anything, rebecca, but that is true. we have a relationship with newsreaders over decades. we think of sir trevor mcdonald and the like, and i think when there was scandal around philip schofield, there was a very different nature. >> people felt similarly. somebody who was in your home a lot when you're off sick or getting big news or when you want to find out information, thatis want to find out information, that is the person you have a relationship with and they do owe you better. >> well, let me tell you, it's been a feisty two hours, but i'm
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deeply grateful to my brilliant punst deeply grateful to my brilliant pundits rebecca, adam and mark. thanks to the team as well. i'm back tomorrow at nine. headliners is next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. increasingly humid overnight with a threat of thunderstorms, but it will remain largely dry across northern areas. plenty of sunshine to come this evening and through tomorrow here. high pressure still dominating, but it is drifting away to the east and low pressure will arrive from the south as well as from the west throughout the rest of this week. now across the southeast this evening, there's a risk of some heavy downpours, but overnight that that risk becomes more widespread, pushing into parts of wales, northern and central areas of england, as well as sticking around in the south—east as well. and it's going to be a humid night for many areas, drier and slightly fresher across eastern areas of scotland. however, now into tomorrow morning there's a
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chance of some very heavy downpours. there's a warning in force for much of thursday for a large proportion of england and wales that could affect anywhere east of wales really across much of england. and that risk brings a potential for some travel disruption, heavy downpours, frequent lightning and potentially some quite large hail as well. so do keep up to date with the forecast throughout the day. on thursday. across parts of scotland, though, particularly eastern scotland, it should be a dry start, but sunshine will be fairly limited. should be a bright start across western areas of england and wales, though, and plenty of sunshine to come across western areas. but once the sun does break out across central and eastern areas of england , there's a further of england, there's a further risk of some heavy downpours. further travel disruption is expected through thursday. not everywhere will see these thunderstorms, but where you do see them, they could bring some fairly major impacts. it's going to be another humid day. temperatures in the mid to high 20s once again on friday. it looks fairly dry to start the day. there's
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>> you with gb news. it's 11:00 in a moment. headliners. but first let's bring you the very latest news headlines. and protesters threw flares and bottles at the gates of downing street tonight in a demonstration of anger in response to the deaths of three little girls in southport. let's show you the scenes earlier on this evening in whitehall. police, as you can see, if you're watching on television in
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riot gear, trying to contain the protest by imposing strict conditions on marchers and leading away those not abiding by the protocols. earlier, we saw further protests bubble up in hartlepool, where police have had to take to the streets in riot gear, and also in north manchester, where police deployed helicopter support following protests outside a hotel where protesters believed asylum seekers were being housed. well, in london, officers wrestled protesters to the ground and led them away in handcuffs after they confronted lines of riot police shouting stop the boats! meanwhile, in southport, officers have called in support from neighbouring forces after last night's riots outside a mosque in the town. and tonight , merseyside police and tonight, merseyside police have said within the last hour that they've arrested a fifth man in connection with the disorder. yesterday after a suspect was recognised from footage filmed at the scene. well, the disorder broke out following speculation circulating on social

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