contain the riot gear, trying to contain the protest by imposing strict conditions on marchers and leading away those not abiding by the protocols. earlier, we saw further protests bubble up in hartlepool, where police have had to take to the streets in riot gear, and also in north manchester, where police deployed helicopter support following protests outside a hotel where protesters believed asylum seekers were being housed. well, in london, officers wrestled protesters to the ground and led them away in handcuffs after they confronted lines of riot police shouting stop the boats! meanwhile, in southport, officers have called in support from neighbouring forces after last night's riots outside a mosque in the town. and tonight , merseyside police and tonight, merseyside police have said within the last hour that they've arrested a fifth man in connection with the disorder. yesterday after a suspect was recognised from footage filmed at the scene. well, the disorder broke out following speculation circulating on social media

about the 17 year old knife attacker suspect who killed the three young girls at the local summer holidays. dance group. today, police were given more time to question him. he remains in police custody . now. the bbc in police custody. now. the bbc has admitted they knew about the arrest of the former newsreader huw edwards. five months before he resigned in april of this yeah he resigned in april of this year. but the corporation says it would have sacked him if he'd been charged while being a member of staff. earlier, the metropolitan police confirmed the man who sent huw edwards indecent images of children was indecent images of children was in fact a convicted paedophile. mr edwards had 41 of the most serious types of abusive, abusive photographs in his whatsapp messages, including one of a child as young as seven years old. the bbc said today we want to reiterate our shock at mr edwards actions and our thoughts remain with all those affected . let's bring you up to

affected. let's bring you up to date now with events in the middle east. the foreign and defence secretaries have gone there on a visit amid reports in there on a visit amid reports in the american media tonight suggesting iran's leader, ali khamenei , has ordered a direct khamenei, has ordered a direct strike on israel. iran's promise to punish israel is in retaliation for what it said was the assassination of hamas's top leader in tehran. israel hasn't yet commented on this , but yet commented on this, but benjamin netanyahu has vowed he won't give in to voices calling for the end to the war. in gaza. meanwhile, mr netanyahu has also praised his military for its strike on the lebanese capital, beirut last night, which killed a senior hezbollah commander. better news coming to us from the olympics today. team gb have landed two more gold medals at the paris games and both in something of a dramatic fashion as well . alex yee says he had no as well. alex yee says he had no concerns about swimming in the river seine as he picked up gold

in the men's triathlon, while the women's quadruple sculls rowers pipped the netherlands right on the finish line to secure gold. their sensational comeback putting britain fourth in the medal table. well done, team gb. those are the latest news headlines. time now for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at tomorrow's newspapers with three top comedians. i'm one of them and i hate the blow my own trumpet. i didn't write that like myself i'm leo kearse and tonight i'm joined by comedians. josh howie i'm a talk comedian, and louis schaefer, also a top comedian. >> i wouldn't go that far ehhen >> i wouldn't go that far either. which what about one of us about being a top comedian? i

would say josh is a is a top comedian. i'd say you're a top comedian. i'd say you're a top comedian. i'd say you're a top comedian. i think you have flashes of brilliance. i've had flashes, but there's that, you know, hire somebody for flashes of brilliance. >> you're just difficult to work with. that's albert bachet. but that's okay anyway. that's the amiable chit chat out of the way. let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages. the daily mail leads with russia unked daily mail leads with russia linked to false news that sparked mosque riot. the guardian has fears of escalation after israel kills leaders of hamas and hezbollah . the times hamas and hezbollah. the times has. edwards pleads guilty to viewing indecent images. that's huw edwards, the sun has guilty again. a picture of huw edwards the mirror has huw edwards child abuse pictures. shame. and finally, the i news has bbc in turmoil over presenter's indecent images. and those were front pages . and let's have a front pages. and let's have a closer look at those papers , closer look at those papers, starting with the daily telegraph. josh. >> yeah, bbc pay paid edwards

£200,000 after the arrest. >> so that is mental. all the we've got pictures of him there. i've got to be honest. he looks pretty cool. he's there. you can see him wearing it that way round. he kind of looks you know like as paedos go he's got good sunglasses. are we allowed to say he's a pedo now? i don't know, something that's definitely true. >> i don't know if that's the appropriate term in this case. i mean it is a horrific it's another case for the bbc where it's a horrific, paedophile. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah . exactly. but i mean, >> yeah. exactly. but i mean, i think it's the fact that they were informed that there were serious charges against him. yeah. back in the day. and they, they sort of have said, oh well he was threat of his like possibly like self—harming. i think he was in a mental hospital at the time. so maybe they didn't want to exasperate that or whatever the reasons are. but the reality is that, it's not a tax. our licence fee for those of us who pay the licence fee went to him. >> yeah, and a lot of it as well. he's on half £1 million loose. i mean that's twice what you're on, >> i wish it was the truth is,

is that one? first of all, half £1 million is not a lot of money in america. these guys are paying in america. these guys are paying millions and millions of pounds. it's like chump change. the guy deserves a lot. he's this is what happens if he was a normal schmo, he wouldn't have gotten into this trouble. >> so i think he would because he was actually lack of finances. >> he was actually caught by they caught a paedophile. and through that investigation, they discovered that he'd been sending images to huw edwards phone over the course of i think it's about eight months. it's not a you know, it's not as if he, you know, accidentally received, you know, a one off image. >> this is what happened to you that time. yeah. >> but he wouldn't have been in this much public trouble. he would have been a guy. he wouldn't have had all these cameras around it. i'd still be facing the same. want to discuss this because. all right, let's go to josh, then talk to josh because the end of the day, this country, the shush, shush . is country, the shush, shush. is that at the end of the day, people say that you bully me. >> can you make a point instead of just waffling my, my point is, is this is a world. >> this is a country world class for paedos. it's got some of the

top paedos in the world. yeah. and your guys are obsessed with it. there's horrible things happening in the world and you're focusing, which is this. this is hard. oh, but this is i mean, this is absolutely horrific. >> i mean, some of these images. so it's category e which is most serious images. some of them involved, you know, penetrative images with children. and it's horrific thing when it came out. you know, owen jones people like that were were trying to, you know, give him the benefit of the doubt and actually spreading some misinformation as it as it turned out, and, you know, people thought, oh, is it just, you know, somebody had signed up to onlyfans and was secretly underage or something like that. but no, this is absolutely , you but no, this is absolutely, you know, horrific. >> now it's been proven. but at the time, the reason why the bbc gave him the money is because they had to give him the money. you can't just say, i'm not going to pay you because you've been arrested, because there's so many mal arrests. i don't know what i don't know what mis arrest, mis arrests, somebody false arrest, summit downing street. you can keep on giving the money. i think. i guarantee you they would have stopped giving him the money if their

lawyers had said they could. but he was. >> he . >> he. >> he. >> the only reason they stopped paying >> the only reason they stopped paying is because he resigned. they never even fired him. yeah. by they never even fired him. yeah. by the way, there are two slightly separate issues here. there's one. what which is the first reports that came out and that was what was sort of being defended at the time. but yeah, obviously they're connected together. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so okay, i don't think you bully me. >> josh, thank you for saying that enough. >> i don't think you bully him enough. anyway, moving on. we've got the times lewis. what have they got in the cover? >> well, it's more about elle edwards pleads guilty to viewing indecent images, but. but the most important question is farage denies whipping up street riots in southport. and this is in the times. they're basically blaming farage like he was calling up people saying, hey, get upset about this kids being killed and go to the corner of smith and wesson streets and whatever rioting is. i you know, we've all we i don't think farage would do something like that. >> yeah , absolutely. and looking >> yeah, absolutely. and looking at what he said, you know, they they're saying, he had a he had a couple of questions. he asked if the guy was being monitored

by the security services. and also the police said it's a non terror incident, but the you know, they said that about the stabbing of the army officer. and there certainly, certainly something i mean, there's certainly the hallmarks of, terrorism, the same pattern that you know, even if it turns out it's not i can understand why people might speculate that it is, particularly as we're in an information vacuum where the police and the authorities aren't telling us anything about the suspect. >> josh. yeah, there seems to be a as you say, a pattern of how the police and authorities respond to these incidents. and in the past, there have been what i wouldn't necessarily call them cover ups, but they have been sort of informational black holes. and there's this idea out there that it's a deliberate way of maintaining community cohesion and whatnot . so we have cohesion and whatnot. so we have this incident. >> i mean, the most horrific crime that people kind of, you know, imagine, don't you know , know, imagine, don't you know, and, and that lack of information compiled with the fact that the person was 17 and that the laws in this country.

>> but then we need to ask whether we, you know, some information or the right information or the right information is better than no information is better than no information at all, because it does allow bad faith actors, which we're going to get on to the next story to step in and provide stuff. so, people want to find this stuff out. they feel like there is some manipulation going on and that is partly what they are responding to. >> i agree, and that's and that's the coming from another country and coming to this country, information is suppressed. >> so the rumours go. maybe it has nothing to do with mosques or anything like that. but first of all, everything is such heightened tension right now over what's going on. and then we don't know what's going, and then the people don't know what's going on because it's crushed and then you're totally right, leo is they want everybody to get along. why can't we just get along? so and the third another thing is, is that farage is called right wing because anybody in this country that's slightly. did he say that he's right. >> he's far right is what you mean? >> yeah. far right. right. thank you. far right. so that those

people who are there are also accused far right. so it must be the same. >> well we've got right. is it still going on at the moment. >> there's you know in london there have been people being arrested in the afternoon. >> i'm not sure if it's still going on, but i've seen footage of, you know, elderly women being arrested. it's certainly a far cry from when the blm marches were allowed to cause havoc. and the police took the knee, or when the police ran away from the leeds riots, or when the police allowed the rochdale riots to just continue. and that's just, you know, in recent history and certainly in london, we've seen riot, you know, march after march of the anti—israel mobs chanting genocidal slogans. but for some reason, when it's people who are upset about the worst crime possibly imaginable, and i don't know if, you know, i've seen a lot of left wing people say, oh, they must just be exploiting it. it's like, no, people are genuinely furious and genuinely terrified for the for their own children, for other people's children. children aren't safe in the uk, you know, from from anyone. it seems looking at these these papers, what i find these these papers, what i find the most and now the, you know , the most and now the, you know, the most and now the, you know, the police are coming down and this particular these marches , this particular these marches, these riots so hard and it's

just so blatantly visible that there's two tiers which is, which is right. >> because the people are throwing the rioting against the police, which in theory should be on their, their team, you think, not on their team . think, not on their team. >> well, that's i mean, maybe we should move to the next paper and talk about the riots that happened yesterday. >> we'll talk a bit. okay. well, yeah. >> i mean, the sad, you know, from the riots because i haven't seen much of the footage of the today's and what's happened in london. but the riots yesterday were shameful. >> there was absolutely a thuggish element there. >> you know, seeing that footage, you saw the policeman attack the same police who had responded to the horrific incident in the first place. >> the mother of one of the victims going through again the most what any human being can imagine could happen, having to actually stop her grief, to put up a post saying please don't be violent . violent. >> i mean, it doesn't. >> there's nothing that justifies those riots yesterday. now, one thing i do agree with you absolutely, though, is, is that we mustn't see there is a two tiered thing and let's see

the same response. you know, the response that we've had today in terms of politicians, we're going to arrest them or whatever. great arrest those people. right? it was disgusting what they did. also arrest the people up in leeds. let's stop the two tiered policing. let's have lack of hypocrisy . let's have lack of hypocrisy. let's have lack of hypocrisy. let's have some actual consistency here. yeah >> and then i think people will feel like we are being fair. we want fairness. >> people want fairness and stop people calling people far right when they're righteously angry . when they're righteously angry. people are righteously angry. >> there were definitely some far right people at that protest yesterday. >> well, if you want the far right to simmer down and go away, maybe deal with the structural long term issues that are causing all this grief in this country. anyway, that's it for part one. but after the break, we've got bbc presenters up to their old we don't. we covered that. the hamas

welcome back to headliners. your

first look at thursday's newspapers. i'm leo kirsten. i'm still joined by josh howie and louis schaefer kicking things off with the sun. and hey, it wouldn't be headliners without a ten minute rant about israel from george . from george. >> hey everybody, get the shot. glasses ready. the drinking games begin. fears of all out war after israel assassinates hamas chief and airstrike and iran vows we have a duty to avenge him. so they've written assassinates. this is the sun, in inverted commas. i don't know why they've done it in a it was an assassination , and it was an assassination, and it was brilliant. as someone said online, this was israel winning the olympic gold at shooting . the olympic gold at shooting. they did. they did the missile like from outside iran's airspace. it went literally into the guy's room, got him and his bodyguard. it was amazing. so what? everyone's complaining. it's like, oh, no, israel's killing too many. oh, now they should do targeted killings. oh, then they do a targeted killing. then everybody complains. the fact is, this is the leader of hamas. this is a terrorist organisation vowed for the

destruction of all jews in the world and the west as well. if anyone you know cares. >> andrews to andrew. >> andrews to andrew. >> yeah, but they've got some bad side. >> yeah, yeah. so, you know, this is this is great. they they started a war and now israel is finishing it. yeah, so but and what's interesting is there's, there's commentary about how they did it in iran, which is sort of like a statement of intent, really, because there's arguments that mossad could have got him during these talks that they'd been having before. but to do it in iran, where he supposedly totally protected, is a bit of a slap of faith. we in the west have to stop thinking of the middle east with our values. they react to very different things. it's a it's a strong man mentality . and, and strong man mentality. and, and that's what they respond to. >> and do you think, would you say that attitude should be appued say that attitude should be applied to people who move here from the middle east? >> well, that's what people unfortunately, that is what people understand. it's a cultural thing where there is this kind of idea that it's

about might is right. i mean, i'm not saying that's right. western liberal values . the idea western liberal values. the idea is that we debate and negotiate, and that's how society has progressed. >> well, louis, it's reassuring that, you know, our population of that demographic is growing so fast. >> but this is i mean, this shot for leo bringing in immigration. >> well, it wasn't it wasn't a story about israel. >> i mean, i wasn't listening to what you were saying because i think you're advocating killing people in this country, and i'm not going to be a part of. >> no, no, i'm not. >> no, no, i'm not. >> no, i'm not at all. >> no, i'm not at all. >> no, but but this is i mean, because mass members well, yeah, i mean, that would mean bombing council houses in london. >> so we can't do that to take out hamas members. >> is it is that this is going to prove this is going to prove nothing except israel has you can't run. you can't hide from israel. that's all. it's saying. you cannot run. you cannot hide. it will put a rocket through your window, up your pot. you know, however many miles away it is 400, 700, 1000 miles away. it's a long ways away. but the truth is, is my only fear is this is going to make the palestinians and the gazans

more. come on. it's like, can i finish my joke? josh? >> sorry, i didn't realise. sorry, i just was i didn't sorry, ijust was i didn't realise. everybody get ready. we're doing a joke. free night, i didn't realise. okay. >> sorry. what was your joke? >> sorry. what was your joke? >> my joke is. is i was going to say that it's going to. it's going to make the palestinians and the gazans whatever angry. and the truth is, is that they're as angry as they can be. this is not going to affect anything. you can kill a million of their leaders, and there's a million people underneath. this is not a leadership war. this isn't like people saying, you got to follow me. >> yeah. when's the joke coming? >> yeah. when's the joke coming? >> you destroyed the joke and the people know it. they know it. >> i was amused to find out that this guy, ismail ismail haniyeh, he's so rich. >> the head of hamas. >> the head of hamas. >> 4 billion. that's, by the way, british taxpayers money paid to unrwa going through him. he used to be a teacher for unrwa the connections there. wow. >> and also man, that's that's above inflation pay rise. if the unions were in negotiate bbc sky guardian all putting out these things. >> oh he was a moderate. everybody else is far right. everyone. >> this leader of a terrorist organisation that has literally

murdered is a genocidal force , murdered is a genocidal force, is like this moderate guy. you can see footage of him smiling as jews being raped and killed, and he's moderate and oh no, whatever. yeah, shame on you. >> yeah, well, that was definitely a rant. the times now and the british medical association wants to give kids puberty blockers. lewis. >> yes. and this is really good news for people who want to get puberty blockers for children, for children who are waiting in line five, seven, ten years old to get puberty blockers . doctors to get puberty blockers. doctors union calls for puberty blocker ban to be lifted. remember there was the puberty problem because this cass review, which is mama cass, i think her name was and that's another jew that was great. sorry. don't laugh at my joke. anyway, i'm sorry it was really good. it wasn't. anyway, so . 50. >> so. >> so the cass review said, like, don't give kids puberty blockers , puberty blockers. blockers, puberty blockers. >> and i hate to say i basically agree. you shouldn't give kids puberty blockers if they're 18 and they want to do something stupid like this to two, they

can do it. but not until then. so the union which is the bma, it says go ahead because the union, they're made up of doctors, they're mainstream doctors. and of course they support the medical establishment of course they support giving pills to people, which is why the nhs needs to be. >> i mean, do you think this is purely commercially driven? they just want to sell more drugs? i mean, no, no, they sound like an argument in america. >> and there certainly there is the argument in the uk, puberty blocks. i believe one of the companies donated a fair amount of money to the lib dem party, who are very sort of pro this, but the fact that the bma, the bma has come out against the cass report, a four year report that took right by the leading paediatrician in this country with huge amounts, swathes of evidence and lack of evidence. that's the other important thing. the lack of evidence that proved that these harmful pills, andifs proved that these harmful pills, and it's actually not pills, work is and they're going to come. the point is, your doctor do no harm. >> this will do harm to people for who have going through this condition for a variety of reasons, including mental health, autism , and also just health, autism, and also just because it's a social contagion.

>> but doctors. sorry. >> but doctors. sorry. >> well, i was going to say surely doctors know josh. i mean, doctors study their medical experts surely going to defer to the experts. we defer to the experts for climate change, for everything else. like why don't we defer to the experts here that the audience doesn't understand sarcasm? >> no, no, but there's no point in you going in that direction. it proves i want to make my point, please, is that doctors believe doctors want to help people. they're good people. and what are the doctor's way of helping people? pills. yeah, but pills don't work. i don't take pills, i don't take i don't take my high blood pressure pills. i don't take pills again. >> and i'm just going to disagree with louis. these doctors who are voted for this, i think are bad people. and frankly, even this is a great evil that is being carried out on our children. the long term ramifications of it are still going to be people are going to be paying for that. no, i do think they're bad. >> i think this is i don't believe this is mental, but i don't think they're bad. >> i think they've been bought. no, i think they're captured.

they're captured. yeah. they believe in pills. everybody who's watching this thing, anybody who's taking their high blood pressure pills, i think it's the ideology, the gender ideology that says that, you know, people people can be born in the wrong body or, you know, genden >>i genden >> i think in some cases, gender dysphoria probably is best treated with, you know, transitioning. but in other cases it can be a temporary thing. and a lot of cases it's resolved by puberty. so blocking puberty, seems i don't agree with you. seems very dodgy. well, i agree with you. >> i don't believe in moving on. thing is transition. >> we've got the express now, and labour gave doctors a huge pay and labour gave doctors a huge pay rise, but they're still going on strike. can we have the money back, josh? >> yeah, this is the same union the bma, the same union that want to give unnecessary, harmful medication to distressed children. >> write union takes just days to stab ruthless labour in back and threaten more strikes. this is. some messages were released from robert lawrenson, who is a co—chairman of the junior doctor me now. labour agreed to the 22% pay me now. labour agreed to the 22% pay rise for junior doctors so that they wouldn't strike. by the way, there's a lot of like,

oh, labour out there agreeing or whatever. the fact is they kind of have to agree when this is recommended, recommended. the government always goes along with these independent findings of what the pay rise should be. so they went along with it. and now the doctors are going, well, now the doctors are going, well, now we can't really do anything about it. we can because labour is in a strong position. we wait till they mess up, wait for a year and then we can strike again. now they might feel that they are in a position to do so, or they might feel wronged because actually it's not 22% that they want to get 35% total to get them back to 2008 levels, whatever. so they have technically have a pay cut over the years, but the reality is there are patients, you know, they have got £1 billion. it's going to cost to put this pay rise into place. we are trying to fix this country. everybody is suffering. everybody and everybody is not suffering. i'm having a great time. oh my god, i'm suffering . i'm suffering. >> i get stuff at gail's. that's how rich i am. >> well i'm suffering and the fact that they've sort of got this pay rise and now they're already talking about striking, which is going to harm innocent people. >> josh, you are such an idiot.

this this is bullying. no. is that bullying? i think you're bullying. >> that's. no, that's fair. that's an accurate comment. >> this is the bma. the bma is a union. and what what is the only power that unions have to strike? that's they're constantly thinking about striking. and so they're saying listen, we did a good job 22%. we wish we could have gotten you 35, but we're going to do it again. yeah. and that's the way they save their own butts. >> and the institute for economic affairs has warned that this is proof that britain is set for a sustained period of industrial unrest under the labour government. i mean, this is surely the, you know, a terrible start for a right wing think tank. that's basically it's an accurate right wing think tank. >> okay. well, they're coming forward to saying that. but i don't think that that's actually going to be the case. so these strikes as they've said here, they can't actually strike and they can't actually strike and they can't actually strike and they can't for strike at least a year or so until. >> so they can't strike or they can't strike for a year. >> well, they're saying that they basically they're not in a position to strike today. >> they're not. but they will be in a year because they've got let's see what happens. he's

gotten a lot of what they wanted. i don't think so. >> i think the economy and i think other, other unions are going to look at this and say, well, we want more too. money >> why? we're not getting anywhere near 22%. >> they did get money. i mean, they have been paid, but no other other people haven't had anything. like they will be in a position to get the pay rise. >> the economy gets better. >> the economy gets better. >> wow. >> wow. >> can i just say once the magic money tree has grown to its fullest size in one year from now, there's going to be riding the streets. no one's going to even care about what you mean. >> there's rioting the streets today. >> i'm it's going to get worse anyway, that's part two

welcome back to headliners. we've got the daily meal now with bad for news liberal mothers who want to score virtue points by transitioning their kids. lewis. >> yes, this is more good news. california. it is good news. i don't know why it's good news. we got to, you know, tell us what it is . it's the california what it is. it's the california dad has granted full custody of

four year old son after boys. mom tried to raise the child. non—binary and as a person who is me, who's been involved in the court system fighting for children, if my advice to you, if you ever want to fight for your children, do not go to court. >> give up. tell us about this case. >> this case, the case. this is maybe this is man bites dog, which makes it a story is in california. in california, the a dad was given given the right to, full custody for his kid because the mother was was forcing their little son to wear dresses and girly girls girly themed parties and that the mother had transitioning herself or whatever was calling herself non—binary. and they were dressing the little boy as a girl. so the court said, hey, that's crazy , that's crazy, >> so it's almost like cult like behaviour . >> so it's almost like cult like behaviour. you've got the mother transitioning and then the transitioning, the son as well. it's interesting that, you know, it's almost like a religion. you get, you know, if you're a

christian, your kids are probably going to be christian. if you're hindu, your kids are probably going to be hindu. no, no. and if you're transgender , no. and if you're transgender, your kids are probably going to be transgender. >> absolutely. a causation there. we see plenty of times in videos this is exactly it like. and also we see the children of celebrities and people in particularly sort of liberal environments. it doesn't happen in some village in, in indonesia or whatever. yeah. anyway, so yeah, there's no such thing as a trans child. there's no such thing as non—binary. what there is are people with mental health issues and parents who want a virtual signal and also want to brainwash their children. this is a egregious example of that , is a egregious example of that, where she was basically taking him to disneyland, but he couldn't get on a ride unless he wore princess shoes. i mean, really like evil, horrible stuff . really like evil, horrible stuff. you know, where forced to wear a dress on his birthday thing? you know, just really nasty stuff. now, here's the thing. you talk about the court going to him. no, that's not what happened. he took 800 pages of documentary evidence. he took eight hours of

police body camera footage showing this mental behaviour from the mother. and guess what the courts ruled that the mom got him. they ruled against him. the only reason that he got custody of his child is because, thank god, a child protective services officer randomly got involved, looked into it themselves, and that's how he eventually got custody of the child. >> okay, so the courts in america are utterly captured. josh, you know nothing about this. i have been in family court. i've been up there by the strand. i've been i've been there for years. you cannot win maybe one out of 100 wins. >> i fully believe that. you've lost a lot of court cases. >> i have lost court cases and i meant well. the only way you can win is by loving the mother. what you should have done is you know what you can't just say what you should have done. >> you should have raised your kids, and then you would have got custody. >> do you want. >> do you want. >> we've got we've got the daily meal now with more propaganda to turn young men into low testosterone wimps. >> josh, forget bad boys now. every woman wants a simp. so a simp is a term used to describe

a man who is overly attentive and submissive to women, aka louis schaefer and you know what? >> that's totally right. yeah, completely. >> i know i've met you . we'll >> i know i've met you. we'll mention no names, but both names , mention no names, but both names, every name. i mean, you say in public, like, oh, i want to get. oh any takers, ladies and whatnot. but the reality is very much you're under the thumb and. >> but i'd like to be under somebody else's thumb . i'd like somebody else's thumb. i'd like to have 2 or 3 thumbs, whereas you got a thumb fetish , but you got a thumb fetish, but there's a lot of thumbs. but this is surely josh. >> we get women who say, oh, i like this kind of guy, but then they don't go for that kind of guy, you know what i mean? because what women say and what women. well, this is it. >> so this person is arguing that actually this whole idea of bad boys is now over. now women love louis, and he's a bad boy. and he says, and they sort of want to be dominated by him or whatever, but they don't like the good guy who comes along with the reason who's read all the bloody articles. they want to accuse him of bullying .

to accuse him of bullying. >> okay, moving on. we've got the times now, and a play has an abortion scene that's making people feel terrible . maybe they people feel terrible. maybe they should cut out this. >> yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck. abortion scene leaves theatregoers feeling faint. this is a complete non—story. theatregoers feeling faint. this is a complete non—story . there's is a complete non—story. there's some. there's a play going on in new york. not in new york. in london, i forget what city i'm in. i'm in. and, and, they said that, then they show some sort of graphic woman having an abortion, giving herself an abortion, giving herself an abortion as an as an indicator that things are better now because they don't need that. and we got to basically fight for abortion against evil. >> how do they find someone pregnant every night, >> it's a it's a fake thing. pregnant every night, >> it's a it's a fake thing . and >> it's a it's a fake thing. and so and so some guy feels faint and goes to the lobby and says, i feel faint. and it's a news story. >> is he one of the is he one of the simps from the earlier story? >> yes, it's a total it's even not even a simp. it's probably some guy who was paid who was paid by the producer. maybe it is the producer. and they said, just go to the front and act. i don't believe this. this is a non—story. well, this is this is complete garbage. >> no, but it was a bunch of men who did it. and this person was

like, there was no warning. and there was like , loads of there was like, loads of warnings about this scene. what's, this place represents like the development of feminism and women's rights and social standing for the 1940s to the 2000. now, why did they stop in the 2000? because that's when women became men, right? and women's rights went backwards. >> yeah, but the point is, it wasn't bunches. i think this is just a set piece to get people to go to this thing so cynical. >> so get a press release out to drum up, because every single thing we read in this newspaper is just packed with and all the newspapers are packed with lies. a lot of articles are just rehashed press releases. i've noficed rehashed press releases. i've noticed that, yes, the ones i write, i'm looking forward to watching the years. >> of course , we've got the >> of course, we've got the independent now, and donald trump has been accused of sexism. >> really? donald trump's sexist. well, this is a new one, josh. >> indeed, yes. development. trump says world leaders will walk all over harris because of how she looks in latest misogynist rant. and then they sort of said afterwards, no , no,

sort of said afterwards, no, no, no, not because of her being a woman or anything , even though woman or anything, even though he said she'll be like a play toy, but he says, i don't want toy, but he says, i don't want to say why, but a lot of people understand what nudge nudge, wink wink, whatever. well, if you don't want to say why, then it is because you're basically being misogynist. >> well, you don't know that for sure. well, it could be something else . something else. >> say, well, then what's the reason why he means that i don't know. >> i'm not donald trump. i haven't thought of that thought of that reason. >> maybe he's thinking of something else. maybe he's thinking of that casually horrible laugh. the fact that she's a complete commie. >> yeah, and she's lewis. she's come out with a really weird campaign against him where they've sort of synchronised attacks on him across all the media, calling him weird and creepy and the, he gives them theick. creepy and the, he gives them the ick . and it's obviously the ick. and it's obviously a sort of, you know, signal to the childless cat ladies who are make up the majority voting bloc for left wing parties that you know are creepy. creepy is a kind of bullying phrase that women use to destroy men. >> totally. i've heard it. >> totally. i've heard it. >> how are we telling this story about trump's making a misogynist comment into how she

is ? is? >> it's her. >> it's her. >> it's her campaign against him. so, you know, i think it's you know, he says , oh, because you know, he says, oh, because of how she looks, she wouldn't get treated well by world leaders. i mean, if she said that about him, it would be completely unremarkable. nobody would say, oh, you're being misunderstood or you're being racist. and, you know, i think it's pretty ridiculous that this has been whipped up into i agree with you. >> i don't think he he never said it's because she's a woman or whatever he might have been thinking it, but he didn't say it. so you can't hold him to this. this is trying to call trump and republicans anti—women. they're anti—women. >> and they might they look at her and they say, we can't believe we got so lucky. they're going to walk all over her. she'll be like a play toy. i mean, i don't know. >> that's he'd say that about a man. yeah. >> he would say 100%. >> he would say 100%. >> he would say 100%. >> he said that about joe biden. >> he said that about joe biden. >> so there you go. so because that's what democrats are, is they're a bunch of simps i think that he has there is a danger of him his rhetoric alienating people where he there was a moment where he sort of could sound like, oh, he was clever, like he was unifying people and whatever. >> and it feels like this is he can't help himself. yeah,

because it's fun. i think it's enormously fun, fun for us to talk about it. >> but you know what? it doesn't matter what he says, because at the end of the day, he represents a certain side in the argument. and kamala harris doesn't matter what she says or does. she represents the other side. yeah so it doesn't matter what he says. >> okay, well, we've got the daily mail now, and generation z are ditching tv and watching my informative videos on youtube. >> yes, we're very good. and that's why you've got thousands more subscribers than i do. you can look for lewis shafer on youtube. >> lewis shafer have your own youtube video. >> and no, i used to have youtube. oh, that would have helped. i got tons of not on youtube, but it's the same thing on twitter. same thing. >> how old are you , lewis? i'm >> how old are you, lewis? i'm not the same thing. yeah. >> check out lewis's myspace. >> check out lewis's myspace. >> they're not. they're not the bbc. and this is this is the most shocking. more than half of gen z people. i think they're like, gen z, 16 or 2, 16 to 24. so they're very young, abandoned watching traditional tv in favour of video sharing platforms such as tiktok and youtube every day, says the

media regulator. right. and so the media regulator is involved in trying to pump up people watching the tv. there's this money, this should be spent by those companies that do the work for them . but no, it's our tax for them. but no, it's our tax style, like you say, because you're still paying. >> i've cancelled my bbc, but if there are no kids watching telly, then why do we? why can't we swear ? because it's really we swear? because it's really annoying being here every night and we're not allowed to swear. it's really difficult. yeah, and even younger kids are not watching either. >> nobody's watching the bbc, they're not watching television, and they're not watching the bbc. so we shouldn't have to pay for. >> do you think this is going to be an existential threat to the bbc? because kids aren't aren't going to be they're going to grow up into people who don't watch the bbc. it's almost like the tory party, like all the voters are getting too old. yes it is. >> and that's why we need somebody young to come along who's going to bring the young kids in. louis schaefer put me on the bbc, so i have to beg my six year old to watch telly. >> right. they are obsessed with the phone. he's obsessed with the phone. he's obsessed with the phone. he's first with his ipad, youtube, whatever. i beg,

please, just watch telly. he won't. it's like i'd say. and then he goes on telly and then he watches youtube on telly . so he watches youtube on telly. so yeah, there is a problem here, but we're seeing. >> no, but it's because youtube is full of really high quality content . content. >> but we are seeing a big, big fan of yours. do you really know him, daddy? but but the thing is , him, daddy? but but the thing is, radio is actually seeing a bit of resurgence, which is interesting. and i thought from years ago is as these people as these children will get older, i believe they'll return in some form to whatever the format will be longer form as their attention. no, they won't return. >> well we'll see, they won't return. see, it's so much better. anyway, this was produced by the director of market intelligence, which is the kind of crappy name that some independent company might have. crappy. >> there could be children watching . watching. >> that's the end of part three. but in the final fun section, we've got sam smith with his shirt off, why? bacon is bad your brain and a rigged election in the americas.

all dressed up. welcome back to the final section of headliners we've got the telegraph now, and sam smith is wobbling about half naked in the news again. can't he just put a shirt on? josh? >> yeah, this is what lewis was just talking about in the break about people getting dressed up or in this case, he was referring to him with his correct pronouns as well. near nude. sam smith joins royal family members among the national portrait gallery's history makers. the idea that sam smith is a history maker is utterly ridiculous. i mean, it's just a photo. i mean , it's like just a photo. i mean, it's like we saw with the french olympics thing . it was just it was we got thing. it was just it was we got a photo here. it's just naff, like, oh, look, he's got, he's dressed like an angel and he's playing a harpsichord and it's pink and it's i mean, like like it's just lame, man. like, what is this really somehow pushing boundanes is this really somehow pushing boundaries or something? >> do you think it's just to get sam smith fans in so they get more people through the doors? i mean, it's an art gallery, so

nobody wants to go, of course. >> well, but this is this is like a madame trousseau's getting people to come in. and because they probably were looking up at madame tussaud's and they're getting like £30 to go in there, i guess, and they have to let him in for free or whatever, that would make me not go to that exhibit. >> and the idea that he's a history maker, come on. >> and he's far fatter than that. the guys are father diab, isn't he a fat guy ? yeah. isn't he a fat guy? yeah. >> he's fat. they are. they are very fat . very fat. >> they look amazing. i put my picture in there. >> well, i wasn't going to go. and now i'm definitely not going to go. and it's the bbc prom. >> so we got through those people. >> we got the sun. we got the sun. now with terrible news for followers of the louis schaefer diet. but luckily, i think you're the only person who follows it . louis. follows it. louis. >> yes, and i've been following it for five and a half years. look at how great i am. pain free. let's be honest. great looking. just everybody else's opinion. >> hey. >> hey. >> well, i've kept i've kept myself alive to bother other people. cutting out bacon and sausages for beans and nuts can reduce dementia risk by a fifth. and i read this article because ihave and i read this article because i have to. but the truth is, there are certain words in here

that made me want to stop reading , and that made me want to stop reading, and by the end of it i just said, this is bull and you don't have to read it because it's garbage. it's in harvard university, which is garbage. it's it was it was published. it was, it was it wasn't a study that was done. it was just a study that was they talked about it. it was never checked, fact checked or published in a magazine. they just went in front of the alzheimer's association, which are a bunch of liars as well. they're all liars. why don't people listen to me? >> but this is research. it's looking at links between processed red meat consumption and a person's risk of developing dementia, and what it is, is and what it is, is it's epidemiology, which is like following studies which it could be a million reasons why. >> and they said that bacon is bad . and the truth is bacon is bad. and the truth is bacon is just nitrites, which are in everything. nitrous oxide is good for you , what you might good for you, what you might call it, the pills that you use when you need to get your thing going down there. viagra, viagra, that's nitrous that raises your nitrous oxide. so then now they're saying and is that the same as nitrites? very

similar to it. it's another extra oxygen or an extra can sometimes make a lot of difference. it could make a difference. it could make a difference. but the truth is they got the vegan agenda. and i hope harvard dies. >> there's another way of reading this , which is if you reading this, which is if you eat too much bacon and sausages, you've got dementia. >> no. and then you don't know that. yeah, yeah . that. yeah, yeah. >> then you can't read an article properly which says you're going to have i mean, i'm just saying you're saying that about me. >> don't you eat. >> don't you eat. >> you might have. >> you might have. >> don't you eat, mrjul? >> don't you eat, mrjul? >> i don't eat bacon. do you eat turkey? bacon? turkey turkey? >> are you really? that's even worse. the point is, the reason why bacon might be bad is because it has. it raises your uric acid level, which causes gout. uric acid level, which causes gout . but at the uric acid level, which causes gout. but at the same time, it's been around for thousands of years. oh, yeah. >> so we've we've evolved. we've evolved to live off bacon, not baked, not processed food. moving on. we've got the daily meal revealing how prisoners literally have a better standard of living than me. josh. yeah, prison lifers preparing for life on the outside can host dinner

parties and go shopping in first experiment of its kind . experiment of its kind. >> so it's like they're living in a hostel and there's the claim that they get like hellofresh and gusto, which i can't afford , i got it for can't afford, i got it for a week when it had a discount. it was really good. >> but anyway, why does gusto? >> but anyway, why does gusto? >> i think it's like the equivalent of it. but the point is, when these people who've beenin is, when these people who've been in prison for a long time, it's very hard to readjust. there's a lot of, committing crimes when they get out again or rescinding because they're criminal recidivist recidivism criminals, but but if they can be prepared for life on the outside better and one of them might be socialising, knowing how to cook properly, the idea is that hopefully they wouldn't go back to prison and then cost us more money and commit crimes. so i think this is a good thing. it seems to make sense to me, but they just don't commit crimes. >> that seems simpler. let's let's get to this story. we've got the daily mail with a story about election rigging in the americas. but this time it's not joe biden. louis. >> yeah, but it's the exact same story. venezuela. president maduro bizarrely challenges this is a ridiculous story. elon musk said something bad about maduro.

who's the head of venezuela, which means little venice was how the country was. >> but tell us about the election. >> and they had an election there, which is the guy went through an election he was about to lose. and so they suddenly up the number of votes that he got very similar to how joe biden was elected president. that the guy was a fraud. he's a fraud. and if you listen to me, you're crazy . crazy. >> i mean, there's some suspicions, but i mean, i'm sure america's got a very, you know, substantial, robust system for deaung substantial, robust system for dealing this sort of thing. but maduro, on the other hand, is a dictator, a communist dictator, the worst kind of dictator . and the worst kind of dictator. and he definitely stole this election. and in fact, when they counted up the votes, they came to something like 110%. so that was a clear sign that you know. yeah. >> and i mean, it's proof of the power of twitter x in that a lot of information has been coming out via that medium. we've seen the bikes going on, people with weapons in the streets, the intimidation that's going on. >> so people are protesting in the streets. they're rioting. >> well, it was actually an

intimidation during the actual voting . oh, right. and that voting. oh, right. and that initially and now we see people, we see the some of the, the army stepping down or whatever. so there could well be some sort of regime. >> so the military have stepped down and are not protecting them. >> well, this is the idea of some of them, whether that's going to what that is going to lead to. but the idea that he's calling out musk and, and sort of saying that his social media creates a virtual reality and who controls the virtual reality, he sounds like louis ck. he's eating too much bacon. but we support venezuela because they've got the most because that country with they've got more oil than saudi arabia, russia, america, they've got a huge amount of oil. >> and if we let the oil go, it's going to be we're not using oil. >> well, they're just crippled by having a communist, a communist government. and, you know, these communist seize power and, you know, promised that they were going to deliver this equality for the people. and obviously, within a few years, people were eating out of bins, eating their pets. people are dying in the streets. it's horrific. >> and it was the richest country in south america for years. and i went there in 1993 and it was proper lovely. and i

recommend, i don't recommend, i don't know about visiting. >> i recommend you get a time machine and go back tonight. >> yeah, but that's what happened. >> the show is nearly over. so let's take another quick look at thursday's front pages. the daily mail leads with russia unked daily mail leads with russia linked to false news that sparked mosque riot. the guardian has fears of escalation after israel kills leaders of hamas and hezbollah. the times has edwards pleads guilty to viewing indecent images. the sun also leads with the huw edwards story guilty. the mirror has huw edwards child abuse pics. shame. and finally, the i news has bbc in turmoil over presenter's indecent images. and those were front pages and that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests josh and louis. i'll be back tomorrow at 11 pm. with steve and alan and kerry marx and if you're watching at 5 am, do stay tuned for breakfast until then. good night. god bless and stay safe. bye >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb

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>> riots in southport last night. many police officers injured all of this following the horrendous murder of those three young girls and in particular a massive pile on sponsored by the bbc on me for danng sponsored by the bbc on me for daring to ask who the attacker was and whether he was someone the authorities were interested in. will debate all of that tonight, and i shall say, is it fair and reasonable to ask questions or should we simply shut up and go home? also last night in southend , a machete

night in southend, a machete attack people on the streets fighting with machetes. is this part of the societal decline that i was talking about in the general election? and finally, the chancellor, rachel reeves, comes clean. she will put taxes up on the 30th of october in the budget. all of that and much more in just a moment. first, let's get the . news. let's get the. news. >> good evening. the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that police say they're aware of plans for further unrest for southport tonight in reaction to false claims swirling on social media that a muslim had killed three local girls, disorder broke out yesterday evening outside a mosque following speculation about the 17 year old suspect, who's now in police custody. officers have now been given more time to question him. meanwhile, the metropolitan police have placed conditions on a protest outside downing street

tonight in response to those stabbings . the enough is enough stabbings. the enough is enough demonstration, they say , must demonstration, they say, must end at 830 this evening. well, also in the news today, the bbc has admitted they knew about the arrest of the former newsreader huw edwards, five months before he resigned in april. but the corporation says it would only have sacked him if he'd been charged while being a member of staff earlier on the metropolitan police confirmed that the man who sent the former presenter indecent images of children was a convicted paedophile. mr edwards had 41, of the most serious type of photographs in his whatsapp messages chat, including one of a child as young as seven years old, angela rayner is playing down suggestions of a backlash against the government's house building drive as she launches a new towns taskforce. the deputy prime minister says restoring mandatory housing targets for local authorities is a key part of the government's plan to ease

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