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gb news. >> gb news will start this hour 11:00. with that breaking news, we've been talking about the last few hours that there are reports tonight. a police station in sunderland has been set on fire during what northumberland police have described as another night of serious violence linked to the southport stabbings. these are the latest pictures from that scene of the blaze, with confirmation now that at least two vehicles have been overturned and also set on fire. that was as rioters clashed with officers over the last few minutes. you can also see here one of those overturned cars set
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ablaze and police in riot gear also coming under sustained attack tonight as protesters set off fire extinguishers and threw rocks and bottles towards them. earlier, up to 200 people were heard shouting anti—islam , heard shouting anti—islam, anti—islamic chants as mounted police and officers in vans took to the roads to traffic and keep the peace . meanwhile, the prime the peace. meanwhile, the prime minister has visited southport for the second time this week to announce a package of support for the victims in the town . for the victims in the town. dufing for the victims in the town. during his second visit there, sir keir starmer praised the town's resilience and announced mental health support and events he says will boost a local cohesion in london. meanwhile, downing street has joined with landmarks across the north—west, lighting up in pink over the weekend in memory of the young girls that were killed in that southport knife attack. on monday. nine year old alice dasilva aguiar, six year old bebe king and elsie elise dot, who was seven, were killed when a knifeman attacked them earlier
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this week. eight other children were also injured, along with two adults. well turning to other news today, a mural of former newsreader huw edwards in his home village of carmarthenshire has been removed. the artwork has now been painted over while institutions including bangor and cardiff universities are reviewing their ties with the x presenter. that's after he admitted to accessing indecent images of children. the culture secretary is now calling on the to bbc reclaim the £200,000 salary that mr edwards received between his arrest in november and his resignation in april . and his resignation in april. prisoners who have been released as part of an exchange between russia and the west have spoken of their burden that others are still in jail. it was the biggest exchange of prisoners since the cold war and included dual russian british citizen vladimir kara—murza. he was detained following opposition to the invasion of ukraine in exchange, eight russian prisoners were also freed , prisoners were also freed, including an assassin who was serving life in germany . 96
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serving life in germany. 96 migrants are suing the uk government , migrants are suing the uk government, claiming migrants are suing the uk government , claiming that they government, claiming that they were badly treated at the manston processing centre in kent. their lawyers claim the group were unlawfully detained between september and november 2022, with allegations also including a lack of access to hygiene products, forced removal of hijabs and reportedly inadequate conditions for children and pregnant women. so far, the home office hasn't filed a defence and finally, it has been another successful day at the paris games for team gb two silvers, one from ben proud. he came second in the men's 50 metre freestyle, while duncan scott was runner up in the men's 200 individual medley. and those two wins follow three golds, taking the gb total to now 27 medals and putting us in fifth on the medal table. meanwhile though, there has been news tonight that the bmx semi—finals kai white was taken to hospital after a crash. he had been a
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medal hope coming into the final stages of the competition after that crash. reports now suggest he is okay but has been taken. we understand for further checks. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. plenty more from the newsroom from 10:00 in the morning. now though, it's time for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> dot com. forward slash alerts . >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> thanks, sam, and welcome to headliners. i'm nick dixon, taking you through tomorrow's top stories for the next hour. and i'm joined tonight by a very balanced panel. we have the people's gammon paul cox. there he is. even more gammon since he caught the sun. he's representing the far right thugs and someone so far left he's literally called marx. it's carrie marx. there he is. >> i'm the balance . >> i'm the balance. >> i'm the balance. >> you're the balance. which means we're in real trouble. >> and the gammon, the ballast.
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>> and the gammon, the ballast. >> how are you lads doing? got any plans for the weekend? >> absolutely. absolutely none . >> absolutely. absolutely none. what are you offering? no, no. >> i'm just, you know, just saying. there's a lot going on in the country. >> just wondered. oh, i see, are we going to go and join in? >> just, just have more story. >> just, just have more story. >> yeah, well, i don't recommend doing that, but. anyway. good. anyone good banter at the start, though, so let's crack on and have a look at the front pages. so the daily mail is going with stabbing suspect was a star for bbc children in need , the times bbc children in need, the times extra police and prison cells to stop more riots. the guardian police braced for unrest from shameful far right. their words the mirror. i was in need, but hugh groomed me more on the very disturbing huw edwards story, the telegraph. badenoch we need a better plan for immigration. and finally, the daily star learned to love a maggot. how very. daily star and those were your front pages . so what are your front pages. so what are the mirror going with paul? >> so yeah, touched on this at
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the top. there i was in need. but hugh groomed me. so the young man whose relationship with huw edwards set in motion the star's fall from grace, has spoken for the first time since his ordeal. now this young chap is now 21. he was a vulnerable teenager at the time , when huw teenager at the time, when huw edwards asked him, i don't even have to put alleged in anymore because he's pleaded guilty to all these things. huw edwards asked him for explicit photographs, he says he was groomed, and, it sounds very much like he was. what's astonishing to me is this is now in the mirror. and of course, he had to go to the sun originally. he, his family, his parents, because he was a young it was a young teenager at the time, actually, first of all, went to the bbc, were largely ignored or didn't feel like they got the what they deserved. and we've since learned they definitely didn't. went to the sun, broke the story. everyone stood up for huw edwards because he was such a good chap and now we now we're one year later and we got this horrendous story where huw
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edwards has actually been, has pleaded guilty to having grade a, disgusting photographs in his possession. >> and the young man here is saying because he feels worse now that he knows that to even have met huw edwards. and in the context of that, it's even more disturbing. not that it's his fault, but he just feels awful about the whole thing. as you can imagine, it's very disturbing. and the stepfather even went down and filmed him, didn't he? and things like this. anyway. go on kerry. >> it's seedy, isn't it? very. it's very seedy stuff. and there's a picture of huw edwards on the front of the paper, looking like a bouncer. it's odd. it's almost like this picture he had prepared for if i get arrested for child porn, this is the one i want you to put up, i don't think it's one i would have chosen, but, basically, the bbc haven't had any massive sex scandals for a short time, so hugh thought he'd step in. and, and in the item from the young man, he says, he told the mirror he feels the bbc newsreader took advantage of him, which i think is not giving us a whole lot of facts. there really . well, i would expect really. well, i would expect that he would feel taken advantage of. i mean, weird if he didn't. >> he was a vulnerable point in
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his life, and he was even a homeless shelter for a couple of days. and he was sending out social media messages to various famous people as a kind of cry for help. and only huw edwards responded, which is already perhaps a red flag. but you know, he was he was vulnerable at the time. and then edwards sends him £500 on paypal, even though he didn't ask for money. and it kind of escalated from there. >> yeah, i mean , it's just >> yeah, i mean, it's just horrendous, isn't it, >> yeah, i mean, it's just horrendous, isn't it , that this horrendous, isn't it, that this even goes on, it's very difficult for a for me to grasp, actually, as long as, as well as it is for everyone else, i'm sure. but there's just more and more of this is going to come out. i'm sure. >> yeah. all right. let's move on then and do saturday's telegraph. kerry, what are they going with, >> well, we're opening with the story of badenoch saying we need a better plan for integration, i think she means in the country rather than her integration in the tory party as leadership. but she might do. and she's now, like, favourite, isn't she, amongst the candidates for the tory party? i think that's fair to say at the moment, isn't it. and there's , there's, there's and there's, there's, there's some saying that she's going to
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alienate the party or divide the party up more other people who think she might collect votes from the working class and, and really, what they want to do is get a load of votes from reform. but she's also faced a number of, well attempts to knock her reputation down recently, a treatment of civil servants who, i would have thought if they're called civil servants, they're the ones who's supposed to be civil. you can't expect it of other people. she's not the civil servant, is she? she never claimed it. great point. so apparently she can be a bit. >> she's the uncivil servant. >> she's the uncivil servant. >> she's the uncivil servant. and, she's accused being bullying and a bit curt with people, which are i think are surprised. absolutely no one is. it's more a reaction. yeah probably. but, but that's also something that a lot of people like about her. and she's also saying that, some of the, that the guardian have deliberately sent out messages, a journalist sent out messages, a journalist sent out messages asking civil servants to come forward with anonymous testimony. so they're looking for stories on badenoch . looking for stories on badenoch. really? they're looking to, to smash her down, i guess. >> and this feels like the kind of telegraph antidote to that.
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and on the integration part, which is the headline, she's talking about immigration, she says that it does need to be much lower. i can't put my finger in the air and give you a number, a figure, but it clearly needs to come down and then on the echr, which is a big issue in this race, she's not being committal. she says it depends on the plan. and leaving the echr is not in and of itself the thing that will change immigration. paul, anything on this? >> yeah, well, i'm just on that point alone. she's absolutely right. you can't just jump out the echr and not have a plan because it will be immediately open to criticism. a lot of people that don't understand the echr will immediately think it's some sort of nazi move when it's not. and back to badenoch, though. i mean, through the prism of identity politics. kemi badenoch is kryptonite to the current labour party. she'll become, a black woman leader of the opposition. and because they've spent so much of their time focusing on those on those attributes, human attributes of people, it will make it very difficult for them . and i don't
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difficult for them. and i don't think that's been lost on these guardian journalists and anyone else involved. aside from that , else involved. aside from that, she's also one of the few, in the leadership race that are actually conservative. so if you look at the tom tugendhat and everyone else associated with him , they're very central. yeah, him, they're very central. yeah, they're very, very central. it's all back to sort of this keir starmer , tony blair business. starmer, tony blair business. and i'm not sure you know, we talk they talk quite openly about lurches to the right. i don't buy into all that. kemi badenoch is not a lurch to the right. she's, she's she's a she's a walk, a stroll back to the tory politics. all right. yeah. >> well i think our biggest rival is robert jenrick. and he is more on the right, but we'll go into him later. what about this other story about starmer's best man, paul? >> yeah, it's quite interesting. official at, centre of olympics boxing. gender row was keir starmer's best man. so this is mark adams, a spokesperson for the ioc warned against the witch hunt towards a main . khalife, hunt towards a main. khalife, who was who was the boxing
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yesterday? he was also known. he's known him from school. now the accusation here is twofold, really. one is that politics is far too involved in sport, which arguably it is, and that is the second point is that is evidenced by this relationship between keir starmer, who is obviously the prime minister of the uk and the spokesperson of the uk and the spokesperson of the ioc . i'm not sure it quite the ioc. i'm not sure it quite works that way and i'm not sure we have that much influence over your mates. >> no, i don't really. it seems really tenuous to me to even point it out, really. they used to be was a best man for someone. i mean, is it relevant at all? i suppose mildly, maybe at all? i suppose mildly, maybe a paragraph on it, but it doesn't suggest any kind of bias or anything, does it? well surely we judge the man on his views and what he's actually saying . yes, and sent it to work saying. yes, and sent it to work with there as well. and he's the guy who said that this is not a transgender issue. it kind of is, isn't it? i mean, the boxing i mean, i think we're coming to it in a bit, but it kind of is really it's not she's not trans, but it's this is all mixed in with the ideology and discussion of what a woman is and who can punch who i think is quite relevant to it.
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>> so we don't have any time. we've got to do the daily stocks. this is so important. carry this, front page of the daily star about maggots. >> yeah. it says we have to learn to love a maggot is the front page, critters could save countless lives. and having not read the story, i really feel that it's probably true. it's probably. what would we do without. yeah. >> i'm amazed you haven't gone really in depth on this story. yeah, there's a lot there. i'll give you the story. >> well, they get look, they make holes in cheese as a picture of it. so you don't actually end up eating as much cheese. it saves lives. >> perhaps that's what it is. >> perhaps that's what it is. >> that's what it is. they could take an apple. the main part is medical boffins. so it's the star going feminist because they've always been very boffin heavy, but they've gone with boffins, as you see. i don't know. they always talk about boffins if you i don't know if you do this show that often, but i'm not sure that does make them feminist though, because it's a bit like comedian comedienne. 0h, bit like comedian comedienne. oh, you think that's even worse? yeah, i think they've messed it up. vanessa's tried. >> i mean, i feel triggered, they're overdoing it. >> yeah, totally tried too hard and they've messed it up. okay, that's a daily star. that's all we've got time for on part one. but coming up, more
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soon. welcome back to headline as i'm nick dixon, still here with the people's camera and paul cox and the scourge of the people, carrie marks. let's do the independent and predicting a weekend of far right violence, apparently. but is that true? or just the independents speak for normal people who are angry about the state of the country? paul about the state of the country? paul. well, a bit of both, >> but let's get into it. nation braces for weekend of far right violence with 35 protests in wake of southport stabbings. a far right rioters have been told they will face the full force of they will face the full force of the law as police brace for a weekend of violence. with these 35 protests planned . couple of 35 protests planned. couple of points, really. this isn't just in the wake of the southport incident. i think that's quite dismissive, and disingenuous to say that it is this is this is in the wake of the stabbing of
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the soldier. this is in the wake of the way the story was portrayed at manchester airport. this is in the wake of the two tier policing in leeds , one tier policing in leeds, one thing i would say though , is thing i would say though, is that to brand brandish, everybody with a far right moniker, it obviously very much undermines what what these people feel . the trouble we're people feel. the trouble we're having is and i stood there for five minutes watching live footage of sunderland just before we come on air. i'm not too sure what the rioters themselves are aiming to do at themselves are aiming to do at the moment attacking the police, setting things alight for now , i setting things alight for now, i i'll be the first to say that i understand the emotion behind it, the anger behind it, particularly with regards to southport, some things have got out of hand, some things have got out of hand and are being totally misrepresented. i really don't know. there's only one outcome of this. the narrative is already against the rioters, particularly in this instance. so if they continue to do what
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they do, the whole narrative will remain as it is, nothing will remain as it is, nothing will change. >> yeah, well , apparently you do >> yeah, well, apparently you do get actual some actual far right groups come in, is what they say. and then, of course, we want to be clear that you shouldn't spread online misinformation. you shouldn't set fire to things or attack police officers. i think that's all obvious. but at the same time, yeah, the anger, i mean, people are saying, well, why was the anger over this particular incident? but there was like you said , it's a build up of so many said, it's a build up of so many incidents. the final one is not necessarily always rational, as we saw with george floyd. yeah. even whether you think that police brutality really is a thing against black people in america, certainly, you know, the more you look into the george floyd thing, it's very complicated. and he had a lot of drugs in his system, but that was the thing that pushed it over the edge. we've seen a similar thing here. and starmer for me, could have done a lot more with his statement. but he did the usual thing. he just said, far right, we're going to crack down on you. he could have showed some balance and some acknowledgement of what people have been through for so long. but what do you think? >> i think, well, first, i think that's a very good point. it's normally something tiny and
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almost irrelevant that can spark things is, you know, a tea being dropped off in boston. it can be, you know, the george floyd thing. he wasn't the ideal person to he wasn't like some upstanding member of the community who who then gets attacked by police and was a good example. but actually, i think that's what makes this interesting. it really shows that that a subject or that a problem has reached a certain level, that something now something small tips the balance completely. we're told by starmer that this is just, he kept insisting it's a few people, and really, these are bad actors and they are they're not they're terrible acting. most of these, most of these people, the way they throw a brick is awful. they don't even write good scripts. but, if you're going to say there's 30, i think 35 protests were expecting this weekend and that's i'm assuming that's simultaneous. so you can't say it's a tiny number of people. if you're going to say that they're all bad and dangerous far right people, then you're saying that's a lot if you're going to say it's all so what we're kind of ignoring here and what they've been ignoring for a long time is, is really respecting the law abiding, working class and other people who are, who
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are more moderate and want to be listened to. and i think there's a danger in treating this immediately as this is going to be something that erupts, and therefore we have to do extra policing, we have to put a whole load of things in motion. and i feel like one thing is feeding the other, and we end up with this vicious circle of, overexcitement. it's a huge sigh for me there, because far right has become a little bit of a dog whistle for the working class and the white working class. >> for instance, i really am loathe to bring race into this, but it's exactly what is happening now. it's being the tables are being turned and it's just white working class people who, as far as, as far as the media class are concerned, really don't know or understand any of the minutia of the problem, and they're just reacting badly and they're bad people. and it's not true. but there's also some inconsistency. >> i think, you know, the on the left side, i'm still at time, on, on the, on the left side, it's seeing this type of, writing and demonstration as automatically dangerous and so on, you've got to remember that starmer and this part of the
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inconsistency of it during the blm, and it was when blm reached that level where there was like 25 deaths and £1 million in damage and a billion, $1 million and change that to a billion for no reason, when, when starmer took the knee. so he is recognising that there is a moderate view and that doesn't necessarily get represented by, by rioters. and yet here he's taking the opposite view, which i think is a bit, you know, and also, of course, there's been islamist, protests which have also involved a great deal of vandalism and synagogues. so having to put on extra security. and now we're horrified. and it is wrong. it's absolutely wrong to be protesting or aiming this at a mosque or at a community. yeah, it's absolutely wrong. but at the same time, there's a feeling, i think, in the air that this is inconsistent. and yeah, absolutely. >> the two tier system we've all heard so much about, we've got to move on and do the telegraph and huw edwards could retire with a massive pension. the bbc rewarding one of its finest representatives. >> carrie, we're really having all the fun stories today, aren't we? i know just how joyful , surely it's aren't we? i know just how joyful, surely it's going to aren't we? i know just how joyful , surely it's going to get joyful, surely it's going to get more interesting in a moment, but , so yes,
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more interesting in a moment, but, so yes, huw more interesting in a moment, but , so yes, huw edwards free to but, so yes, huw edwards free to retire. this is this is £300,000 a year. pension, you know , after a year. pension, you know, after having been convicted for indecent images , he's soon, soon indecent images, he's soon, soon the most indecent image on his computer. it might be his bank balance, so . and, you know, balance, so. and, you know, i mean, on the one hand, he's not going to find another job now, so maybe he should have some right to some money. i don't know, but, i think this is one of those stories where they talk about all the different lawyers and law experts who will basically say that there's no easy way of stopping this. now, the law is on his side. and i think what we need to do is if you don't like it, is to change the law. and i think the public would for vote that. you know, i don't think you need a referendum, and i think it'd be easier to word the law if you just said there's a new law. it says that if you get done for having child sex images on your computer, you don't get your state pension or the pension through a, you know, through the bbc. and i think the whole pubuc bbc. and i think the whole public would say, yeah, we'll kind of go with that. >> the tories should run on
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that. they could rescue the party if they just ran on that. what do you think, paul? i mean, obviously, you know, there are these things were already in place, but it's just bound to sound incredibly disturbing that you get this. the guy had too much money. anyway, we know this. he was just throwing it around on random people that messaged him, and now he's going to get 300,000 a year, or potentially. >> that's because, that's employment law. his contract will be watertight. it'll be part of the golden handshake, even the bbc don't write employment contracts that might against mitigate against paedophilia. and so he, he he is, in the eyes of employment law, a totally entitled to that £300,000 a year bbc pension , £300,000 a year bbc pension, which of course sticks in the throat because that pension is paid for by you and i, nick and of course kerry. no never. so do you and i, nick. >> yeah. okay. well, let's do the express and keir starmer hasn't quite got to off the start. he wanted what would the country descending into daily random violence and stuff. paul. but what's this one about? >> keir starmer dealt a huge poll blow. >> not that it matters this
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early on, i guess. poll blow after winter fuel payment fiasco and rioting chaos. if you haven't noticed. so sukh sir keir starmer honeymoon period. unbelievable choice. i don't think he's ever been a honeymoon penod think he's ever been a honeymoon period for him as prime minister is over. amid looming threats of riots and fury over scrapping the winter fuel payments. and it's been a hell of a month to be fair, four weeks of utter carnage. and, you know, a lot of people, if you made the comparison , would say, well, comparison, would say, well, look at liz truss. at least she only tanked the economy, not the entire country. the, the nothing was on fire. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, he's not literally at least literally. yeah. mainly peaceful fires. all of them though, as you well know, nick, his speech yesterday and i've tried to stand back and look at this objectively, subjectively , this objectively, subjectively, just so division straight down the middle of the country. he basically said, i am with this lot and i'm against this lot straight away from here on in. >> there's no going back from the person who said it would be
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prime minister for the whole country. that was what was so disappointing to me. you've said that. and then he failed to be. but this highlights the winter fuel payment, which is also not great because and that actually is his core base, if you like, who were very alienated by that. what do you think, harry? >> absolutely. that's what i think . no, >> absolutely. that's what i think. no, look, he's, >> absolutely. that's what i think . no, look, he's, first of think. no, look, he's, first of all, your popularity is always going to go down a little bit when you get in. that's a good point. you. there's this, you know, rush and excitement when someone becomes prime minister, and then suddenly the honeymoon is over. and also welcome to power. why would anyone want to be a prime minister? what a horrible job and response, i totally agree. anyway, so yeah, he's been a backseat driver. it's a really fun thing to be. and now he finds himself in the driving seat and realise he's on an ice road and he's slipping all over the place, and it's. and what's interesting is it's coming at him from different directions. so, you know, we've got the riots going on the pubuc got the riots going on the public disorder in leeds, and then on the other side from his far his further left voters, so on, is the two child benefit. which what he can actually do about that is kind of questionable anyway. and we've
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talked about this on the program yesterday, so i won't say too much because i was already pretty funny about it. but the spending cuts. yeah, yeah. the big black hole, you know, which needs fixing . so you know. needs fixing. so you know. >> okay. yeah. what what are you seeing as limits as a leader to me? because blair or someone would have come out and i think they would have done a much better job at saying something betterjob at saying something that brought the country together, even if it was sort of fairly fake. he just completely failed to me. but i'd love to hear it, paul. but we've got to move on and do the guardian and robert jenrick promises to cut immigration, but can we believe him? or is he like the boy who cried, stop the boats! actually, i shouldn't call rishi sunak a boy. kerry. >> yeah. well, so have we got now. james cleverly can he? badenoch, tom tugendhat, do you say tugendhat or tugendhat? >> tugendhat. >> tugendhat. >> tugendhat. >> tugendhat i've learned that parrot fashion. >> i don't know, you definitely don't say tommy, though. >> i say whatever i like. actually, mel stride and tommy two girl, so this is the former home office minister says he's open to capping immigration and wants to reimpose the rwanda scheme, which is i think there's
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at least two other candidates who are basically going to say the same thing there anyway. it's not going to make him stand out much. i think he needs to, first of all, say a bit more. that makes him stand out. and secondly, tell us how he's going to approach that. any differently to what was said when it didn't work, because otherwise it looks like he's just revitalising it, and it doesn't make much sense. >> the rwanda scheme never made sense. also, i was listening to an interview with dominic cummings today. he said the rwanda thing was always boris just coming up with a bit of nonsense, because he didn't really want to tackle the hard work. this was his view, the hard work of actually tackling immigration, and he never thought the rwanda thing was serious and it became sunak's whole mission. and now he's talking about bringing it back. but i do believe jeremy, it's quite serious. he's an intellectual. he's serious about tackling immigration. but i don't know if rwanda is the way to do it. but what do you think, paul? by the way? i just quickly i saw an express piece that was such a puff piece about jeremy. they're clearly backing him. it was we went to his event, he had ice creams and he had so much great stuff to say. and he's he's david cameron with of the right. he's being called a right wing david cameron. it's a bit weird because cameron was in the
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tories, but we know he was a leftie. the right wing david cameron, so they're backing him and i think he is a big threat to kemi. what do you think? >> well first of all i think reintroducing the rwanda idea is not such a good idea now that we've learned that rwanda perhaps isn't quite as safe as we once thought it was, however, he he's definitely is probably the furthest right representative of the leadership campaign , i may not may may campaign, i may not may may i say still may not because jeremy came from being a sunak. >> right. but then he he resigned, of course, over immigration. so it depends where you think he is. >> this is what i think puts him on the back foot, because badenoch has always supported badenoch. she always backed herself. he's always felt like she was a leader from right from the beginning. all the way she spoke, robert jenrick unfortunately nicknamed generic quite often in the past, which i think is unfortunate. i don't think is unfortunate. i don't think that's true of him, but i think that's true of him, but i think that's true of him, but i think that he has he has flailed around in those winds a little bit, backing sunak in the past. i don't see this being, i don't see this being a winner in a race here. >> i think he's going to be the dark horse and come through. i'll have a bet with you after in the break. >> that is it.
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welcome back to headliners. let's crack on with the telegraph and more developments in the contentious debate over whether biological men should be able to punch women in the face for sport. carrie, it's a hot topic. >> what we're going to talk about, is it? >> yeah. it's carrie. do you want that one, mate? >> oh, no, i found it here. >> oh, no, i found it here. >> oh. >> oh. >> lovely work. oh, no they've haven't. that was the one we had from before. >> this is olympic finding stories. and carrie didn't pass the test. unfortunately no, we've just jumped. >> i'm not an idiot, you know, it's just the program is, and it can't keep up with me. >> it's tough. yeah, it's tough. you're ahead of us. >> in many ways. we know about the boxing. and this this story is from the telegraph. imane khelif. next opponent shares incendiary pictures portraying boxer as a beast. so the new opponent, is the hungarian
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hungary's anna lucia hamori , and hungary's anna lucia hamori, and she's being really confident about it. she's coming out saying, i'll show if he's a woman or a guy, i'll take him out, which, you know, good for her. that's the spirit. here we go. >> this is an official picture of the boxer. there for the radio listeners, it's a picture of a beast with a woman versus a beast. right? which we. i don't know what our view is on that. it's just a picture. it's not meant to be a literal representation. carry on. carrie. >> well, the short story is to catch people up. is that khalife was born intersex, or, i believe, born intersex. from what we found out so far, has x y chromosomes. but yeah, it could be, but yes, has has x y chromosomes, which means that's male chromosomes and would have a male body or at least male strength and so on. so, yeah , i strength and so on. so, yeah, i don't know. i mean, i was i was going to put out a kate perry parody with, i punched a girl and i liked it. punched her in a cherry chap. >> she should have done that. >> she should have done that. >> i didn't do it. you know, because i thought it's pretty,
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too. but you did. >> you just. you just done it now on national tv. but you you did a trump. i was going to do. i won't do it. i won't do it. i could, but i will. yeah i said it was the greatest. >> my bet is what's going to happenisif >> my bet is what's going to happen is if she does beat khalife the people who are saying khalife is a woman will switch to saying that he's a man and celebrate a woman punching a man. i think those same people will then be happy to say that it's also boxing. women can do so. 50. >> so. >> the you know, i mean, that's very tame. if you watch professional boxing, which olympics isn't really. it's still amateur level boxing. if you watch professional boxing, they really do slay each other. before the idea that a single image of this big beastly man looking thing versus her is this slight woman. do you know what? okay, it might be a bit distasteful, but that's boxing these people are just about to get punched in the head. so, you know, i don't think it's unreasonable to have that. and of course, this whole thing around intersex and x y chromosomes and, you know, having as much testosterone as carrie , no one has. no, no, it's carrie, no one has. no, no, it's that's why you're not allowed in
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any of the olympics. yeah. >> but yeah, i mean, look, it really you could say it's unfair to the person. it's not their fault they have x, y chromosomes, but it just simply means you can't fight women. you just have to be. it's just unfortunate for that person because it's just far too dangerous. >> obviously, we saw some rules and, you know, boxing. >> the woman gave up after 46 seconds. the italian woman, she was crying on the floor. and the fact that some people can still back, back, that i think a lot of people are more worried about, about the feelings of, of the boxer, of one boxer rather than the danger of the other boxer , which is clearly the boxer, which is clearly the feelings in their nose when it gets broken. let's do the telegraph. and an olympics official has lost his accreditation for a white supremacist hand gesture. now i understand what you were doing in the break, paul. >> yes? sorry, i thought i was doing it surreptitiously. >> what was the gesture? >> what was the gesture? >> can you show us? paul's going to do it now. i'm absolutely not. olympic shot list everyone. >> olympic. olympic games official has accreditation revoked for white supremacy. hand gesture. a man wearing an olympic broadcasting services outfit was spotted making the okay hand sign by tv cameras. so this is where the finger and the
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thumb just. this is the finger in the thumb gesture for those on on radio, i think you can imagine it's also a popular emoji. by the way, and it's generally used as a sign for okay. however, it's use as a far right symbol apparently is on the rise now , one thing that is the rise now, one thing that is clear here is that it was unclear what the motives of this person were, and this actual sign is relatively news to me. i had to have a chat with kerry. kerry seems to know all about it. >> i know a lot about racism. >> i know a lot about racism. >> it's, it was unclear exactly how he knew everything. it was much he showed me. anyway but what? you know, we don't know what? you know, we don't know what the guy's motive was. so i think they're just being very, very cautious. now, one thing i will say is i've gone to look at the video and the images of it, and he did make a point of getting in the view of the camera. yeah. >> so this is the picture. you can see him doing the sign. it's very, very subtle. this started off as an absurd online meme where it wasn't didn't mean anything at all. and then and then they started saying it was it was a white supremacist gesture and it just wasn't. it was just people doing it. they
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just because it always meant okay. and then that took over. then >> so actually this is one photos like this and then it's become now apparently it actually is why i mean why is he doing it. >> so subtly. that does suggest maybe it now is something that was i just did it very quickly. ihope was i just did it very quickly. i hope they stick with it, >> the races have taken the union jack and now they're taking the okay from us. that's really too much. and now even scuba divers don't know whether each other are okay or whether they've suddenly turned racist ehhen they've suddenly turned racist either. right? you can't make fun of someone with a monocle. >> you under the water. someone does a sign like, oh, you're a white supremacist. then you swim away. you get eaten by a shark. it can happen. >> this is a great white shark as well. >> the irony to me is the absolute statement of where we're at right now. is that even okay isn't okay anymore. >> great point. let's do the times then. and the bizarre tale of a weird and sinister woman who actually cooks for her boyfriend, kerry. what is wrong with her? >> she does sound really evil. so she's a trad wife. trad is short for traditional. i looked it up at some point in my life, this this reminds me of when, gen z discovered quiet walking a little while ago . you remember little while ago. you remember that? i think just walking in
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general. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> walking without listening to music or being on your phone, they were like, it's called quiet walking. we've been doing that forever. and now we're getting traditional wives. and there was a tiktok video of a woman , complaining about woman, complaining about feminism and saying, what have we done ? you know, working is we done? you know, working is horrible. we always have to work. and so i thought feminism was about choice. i thought it was about choice. i thought it was about, you can be, you can work. you know, women have all these choices now and now, of course , women are getting upset course, women are getting upset or some feminists are getting upset with a woman who chooses to have a traditional wife life. so she's still working, i think. and, interesting, i saw, i saw she enjoys cooking. she enjoys cooking. yeah. >> and she cooked for her boys for balance. >> how dare she just for broadcast regulations. feminism was never about choice. it was about destroying the west . paul. about destroying the west. paul. >> that's the balance . >> that's the balance. >> that's the balance. >> yeah, but the point i was going to make is this is so cynical. >> is that unbelievable? >> is that unbelievable? >> just banter. >> just banter. >> i love the balance. sort of. >> i love the balance. sort of. >> it's not banter though, is it, nick? >> well, it's what you it's a funny pattern around my real views. >> god for so a young woman
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likes cooking. enjoys it as a passion. ooh she's not allowed to feed it to her boyfriend. apparently this makes her a traditional. yeah, if a man does it on saturday morning tv, like saturday kitchen or whatever, it's called a career. i don't see anything different. >> and if she was cooking for her girlfriend, it'd be called the new channel 4 show. >> yeah, exactly. yeah. girls cook for girls. >> girls cook for girls . which >> girls cook for girls. which is, with a four in the middle because it's the girls cook for, andifs because it's the girls cook for, and it's like on four. pretty good idea, actually. should we move on and do the independent and in chinese university has announced a degree in marriage. apparently after three years of hard study, you're finally ready to deal with an actual woman. pauli to deal with an actual woman. paul, i didn't know it was going to come off the back of my other dodgy comments. so yeah, but i wrote that earlier. i thought that'll be fine. that will be fine. >> a chinese university announces marriage related degree, an effort to boost declining birth rate, says china's civil affairs university, which sounds totally rubbish , has announced a new rubbish, has announced a new marriage program to promote and develop marriage related culture. so, i mean , by the way, culture. so, i mean, by the way, it says they will cover topics
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including family counselling, high end wedding planning and the development of matchmaking products, sounds really romantic, doesn't it? >> it sounds like that's going to get the people together. >> can you just imagine? i mean, this is ridiculous. also, as nick was saying, it's very heteronormative. it is, isn't it? i mean , this is all about it? i mean, this is all about boys and girls getting together and making babies. i'm not sure thatis and making babies. i'm not sure that is what we're after in the future, but apparently china apparently china, are going for it is. none of this. sounds to me like it's going to be an aphrodisiac. >> no. >> no. >> go on. and it's a degree. yes. >> have you got a degree in it? >> have you got a degree in it? >> as well, and it's, this is starting off with the new degree program is, it's going to start off with 70 students, so it's going to make a huge difference out of 1.5 billion people and get 70 people to get them a little bit more into marriage, 35 couples have got to do a lot of work. >> we've got to move on. but to be very fair, they are at least doing something about the birthrate, which we need to get on with in the west. let's do the mail very quickly and more.
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just stop oil protesters have been jailed. finally, some good news to unify the country. kerry, >> yes, this is a judge who's told just stop oil protesters and these were his words. it's easy to be blase when it's not your life. that's disrupted. and he jails the them for the m25 blockade that brought 50,000 hours of delays. i don't know whether that's between everyone or whether that was. >> no, that wasn't one guy. all right. >> and it falls. and it forced a man to miss his father's funeral, which. yeah, this is the judge. shane colliery. and so they've had , i think this is so they've had, i think this is like a roughly an average two year sentences each. it seems quite a lot to me compared to considering we've had so many protests that have been shutting down london and so many other cities going on for ten months now, i don't know. i kind of understand why something would be done about it, but at the same time, it seems a little draconian, two years. what do you think? >> well, i'm not a judge. i mean, it's quite refreshing. refreshing to hear a judge called shane. you know, i'm a working class boy. shane was normally like the name of the hardest boy in the year, but not
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the judge. >> now it's the hardest judge in the year. >> yeah, exactly. very based. this judge as well. but it is good to see one tier justice being dished out because this this isn't this isn't taking into account anything other than the crime that was committed. the crime has been proven. they don't worry that they're all called cressida, you know, and the rest of their siblings are named after flowers. they just care about the crime that's being committed. i love that one tier justice. >> that's what we're about on gb news. but that is it for part three. but coming up in the final section, the academic who was actually a cat, an eye necklace designed to end loneliness. plus, chimpanzees speak? and if they can, how do we
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welcome back to headliners let's do the times now with a story about an academic who turned out to be a cat, yet still made more sense than most current academics. paul. >> well, that's true enough. >> well, that's true enough. >> the woke ones. >> the woke ones. >> exactly. he, he was a rising star of academia with multiple papers. he was also a cat,
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research researcher. creates fake profile for pet to expose flaws in google scholar website that allows scientists to fraudulently boost their credibility. so this was larry richardson online profile suggested that it was a young mathematician with significant potential. but there was just one issue. it was a cat, and apparently these these these places , they're called paper places, they're called paper mills. so fraudsters were able to easily, use easily available software to generate sham research papers. now, i didn't realise you could just produce research papers in this way. so i'm now starting to understand these climate change scientists a lot better . a lot better. >> apparently, he was really good at explaining his phd thesis until he presented him with a ball of yarn, and then he just lost. yeah, kerry yarn. what do you think? >> i think academia is becoming more and more of a laughing
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stock. isn't it really? there was another one, back in 1975, a theoretical physicist who wrote a paper, and he put one on it, and he, he used the word we in it, and he added his siamese cat as a co—author, which got cited. the cat got cited 107 times by other academics. and this is also reminiscent of do you remember the grievance papers, the, the hoax papers. peter bogosian and james lindsay and, helen pluckrose, and they got a load of papers into peer reviewed journals which were, you know , ones that could cover you know, ones that could cover critical race theory with queer theory. and so on, and it included things like, how to challenge homo hysteria through penetrative sex toys and how to treat men like dogs in a park in order in order to get rid of, some of their masculine ways and some of their masculine ways and so on, which got published and peer reviewed and so on. there are loads of the papers did. so, yeah. you know , the guy here at yeah. you know, the guy here at the end, he's complaining that they've shut him down instead of tackling the problem. they've, they've taken targeted action against a cat. that's how
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pathetic it is really. >> all right, let's do the mail and a new eye necklace designed to combat loneliness, presumably right up to the moment you realise you're talking to an eye necklace. kerry. yeah, exactly. >> they're saying it's like having a childhood pocket tamagotchi. they say we all had one of those. >> i didn't know, none of us. none of us. a lot of us. >> assumptions. yeah. >> assumptions. yeah. >> they assume we're born in the 90s. >> someone had them at school. the tamagotchis. >> so this is a no, no, no, not where i went to school. >> we're slightly older than that now, aren't we? >> i at my school. how old are you, anyway? carry on child, >> this is a necklace that you got. a necklace that listens to you talking. yeah. and then will interact with you through your phone picture of it, which is just this. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it looks like an alarm in case you're being attacked. >> yes. yeah. it's one of those emergency buttons, isn't it, look, no one's going to think. 0h, look, no one's going to think. oh, look at the sad girl there wearing the necklace. she's having a chat with. this is. i don't really see. in some ways, i think it's no weirder than people who talk to flowers. >> no, it's not, but flowers don't talk back. this necklace does. >> you don't listen. yeah, yeah . >> you don't listen. yeah, yeah. >> you don't listen. yeah, yeah. >> you don't listen. yeah, yeah. >> you miss the flowers. how rude are you?
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>> yeah , exactly. yeah. i mean, >> yeah, exactly. yeah. i mean, it's basically i. schizophrenia isn't it? this thing listens to you all day and talks back at you all day and talks back at you and has a conversation that it thinks you would like to have. >> yeah, i'm sure there's better uses for i. let's do the independent. and chimpanzees may be capable of speech. now i've watched enough films to know that this ends with the chimps enslaving us in a brutal dictatorship. paul. >> it does? yes, chimpanzee may actually be capable of speech, study of old footage suggests so.the study of old footage suggests so. the study was published in the journal scientific reports, and it suggests that chimpanzees likely possess the basic brain building blocks to produce first words similar to those spoken by human babies in in the babbling stage and in one study, this is some decades ago, a husband and wife duo coaxed the adopted chimp over several years to say simple words like mama and papa. wow. i don't believe that this has come from studies of old films like tarzan and jungle. >> yeah, and they also think
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that it's actually dinosaurs in the same bathroom. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and the best the chimps can say a couple of words. so you've got mum and papa and cup, which is really useful if you want to call your dad a cup. yeah okay. papa cup. and you go. oh, thanks. >> well, let's do the daily star then, with a story about a screaming woman who lived 3500 years ago, was she upset about her lack of voting rights? kerry? >> yes, i certainly was going on. yes so this one they've known about since 1935, found in a tomb in ancient thebes. so that was 1935. and we have a picture. is this going to come up? >> yeah, we've got a picture. don't worry. the pictures will come. >> so 1935. they've had that that picture for 89 years. they've been looking at it and they're now think maybe she died in pain . in pain. >> i don't think they went to the trouble of mummifying her. right. >> not the listener . it's a sort >> not the listener. it's a sort of mummified woman screaming in pain. is that fair, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think they they just say here somewhere what they thought or they thought originally it
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might be just a result of bad mummifying , substandard mummifying, substandard embalming, which is often what i think when i see a woman screaming. i think, oh, you look substantial now, putting kerry on screen next to the mummified one, which you can sort of compare and contrast . compare and contrast. >> all right. >> all right. >> well, all the scientists who've been studying have since died screaming with the same face. >> what do you want to do this or do the manchester one? i'll just get on to the manchester. okay. let's do the male and manchester's first alcohol free bar has closed after just eight months, presumably because it was an alcohol free bar in manchester. >> paul well this is a great point nick. so the manchester's first ever alcohol free bar still charged £7.50 for the mocktails, closes just eight months after opening, citing financial situation aka bad business idea. yeah exactly. i mean it says love from which was the name of the restaurant, sorry, the bar located in in the campus neighbourhood in manchester centre, was described as a for space those who are off the booze sober , curious or just the booze sober, curious orjust looking for something outside the norm. >> sober kerry in like one
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second. have you got anything ? second. have you got anything? >> yeah, i'll say alcohol. alcohol free is never as popular as free alcohol. get it? nice round. >> great. the show is over. thanks guys. but let's have another quick look at saturday's front pages. so the daily mail has stabbing suspect was a star for bbc children in need, the times extra police and prison cells to stop more riots. the guardian police braced for unrest from shameful far right, very guardian the mirror i was in need, but hugh groomed me. we'd covered that one earlier. the telegraph, beinart. we'd covered that one earlier. the telegraph, beinart . we need the telegraph, beinart. we need a better plan for immigration. and finally, the daily star learned to love a maggot, which none of us really knew. what that was about. but that is it for tonight's show, thanks to paul and kerry. headliners is back tomorrow at 11 pm. of course, if you're watching at 5 am. then as always, stay tuned a.m. then as always, stay tuned for breakfast. but for now it's good night all. good morning and god bless. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. here's your gb news weather from the met
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office. it is going to be relatively warm, not as hot as it has been, but warm and sunny at times. through much of this weekend though, there will be some rain pushing through initially. we have a front making its way southeastwards through this evening and overnight. that's already brought quite a bit of rain across scotland and northern ireland, but it's now clearing these areas and so here it is going to turn mostly dry overnight, with some clear skies for england and wales, though, turning increasingly cloudy and there will be some outbreaks of rain around where we have the cloud temperatures aren't going to drop much. another warm night to drop much. another warm night to come , but quite a bit fresher to come, but quite a bit fresher across scotland and northern ireland, dropping into single figures, particularly in more rural spots. but first thing tomorrow, across many parts of england and wales, it is going to be a bit grey. initially there will be some outbreaks of rain around and worth bearing in mind. some of the rain could be a little bit heavy at times, a bit brighter first thing across nonh bit brighter first thing across north wales and much of northern england, though, some cloud here and there. a brighter start for scotland and northern ireland.
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just a couple of showers starting to feed their way in from the west as we go through the morning. eastern scotland getting off to a lovely fine start to the day with plenty of sunshine here. those showers though, across western parts of scotland and northern ireland, will become more widespread here as we go through the afternoon, and some heavy ones are quite likely. meanwhile, across southern southeastern parts of england here we will have some bursts of rain through the day and these could be heavy at times before they clear away later. elsewhere, a good deal of dry, bright and sunny weather and with temperatures albeit not as high as they have been getting into the mid 20s, it will feel warm in any sunshine. sunday should get off to a fairly fine start, albeit a fresher start than of late for many of us before some wetter weather starts to push its way in from the northwest, and this is likely to bring some heavy rain as we go into the beginning of next week. so do watch out for some high rainfall totals, particularly across northern and western parts. i'll see you again soon. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of
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>> welcome to the andersons real world. tonight i shall be joined on the show by the former political editor to the sun newspaper. that's trevor kavanagh. we've also got former labour mp stephen pound, former conservative mp jerry hayes, an american comedian called lewis schaffer and former glamour model nicola mclean. but first, let's go to the . news.
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let's go to the. news. >> a very good evening to you. you're with gb news i'm sam francis. back to lee in just a few short moments. first though, the headlines at just after 7:00. the prime minister, sir keir starmer, has announced a package of support for southport following monday's knife attack that killed three young girls dunng that killed three young girls during his second visit this week. sir keir starmer praised the town's resilience and announced a mental health support package to bolster local cohesion. he's also met with emergency services there and visited alder hey children's hosphal visited alder hey children's hospital, where many of the victims of the attack were treated. the prime minister praised the hospital's staff for their brave and professional response to the attack. well, southport has seen violent unrest due to false claims about the attacker's identity that were spread on social media, with concerns of further violence in the liverpool city region over the weekend. sir keir starmer has condemned hatred on the streets, calling now for a national response to the disorder. robert jenrick claims the conservatives lost the general election in july
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