>> oh good afternoon. it's 12:00 on saturday the 3rd of august. this is the weekend on gb news and i hope you're having a wonderful weekend out there. now, after another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack, a police office, set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland . surround a mosque in sunderland. then a tory leadership hopeful, kemi badenoch, says the country can't pretend that integration is working. does she have a point on that one, though? and olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them

from injuries amid the gender boxing row? well, i'm dawn neesom and the weekend starts right here and now . right here and now. but contrary to what i like to think, this show is all about me. it's actually about you and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories. we'll be discussing today. really easy by visiting gb news.com/your say and join the conversation. i will be reading as many out as i possibly can now keep me company. i've got a wonderful, wonderful comment, panel for you , political panel for you, political consultant, emma burnell and writer and journalist emma woolf. i'm kind of in an emma sandwich. if you like, or eddie, which sounds like a drug, but i'm not going there. but before we get stuck into today's story, it's the highlight of my working

week is those news headlines with ray addison . with ray addison. >> jess. dawn. good afternoon. 12:01. >> our top stories this hour. >> our top stories this hour. >> northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night . videos posted on social night. videos posted on social media showed a former police office ablaze while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with officers throwing rocks and bottles. five police were injured with four hospitalised and ten people arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary. chief superintendent mark hall issued this warning to rioters make no mistake, if you were involved last night, expect to be met with the full force of the law. >> i want to make it absolutely clear that the disorder ,

clear that the disorder, violence and damage which has occurred will not be tolerated well, the uk's most senior police commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass uncontrolled immigration and, quote, uphold and build on british values following rioting and civil unrest . unrest. >> donna jones is calling for calm and honesty as the country faces more than 30 protests this weekend alone. she said the announcement of the prime minister's new violent crime unit has to led an accusation of two tier policing and, quote , two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters. she says sir keir starmer has to address protesters concerns . well, the protesters concerns. well, the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert. then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis in 2018 and telling viewers how best to raise money. it's understood the teenager was found for the video through a casting agency. a spokesperson for bbc children in

need said they had removed the video out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. two people have been charged in connection with an alleged arson attack on ukrainian linked businesses in london. 22 year old jakeem barrington rose of croydon and 19 year old eugenius azmina of wandsworth have both been charged with aggravated arson following a counter—terrorism investigation. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. the met police believe the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group. they are due to appear at westminster magistrates court today. westminster magistrates court today . well police have launched today. well police have launched a murder investigation following a murder investigation following a fatal stabbing in norwich. officers were called to paragon place last night where a man was pronounced dead at the scene. norfolk constabulary believe it's an isolated incident with no wider risk to the public. they are appealing to anyone who may have witnessed it to get in touch and in the us , donald

touch and in the us, donald trump has agreed to debate vice president kamala harris. he's accepted an offer from fox news for a televised face off on september the 4th. it's not yet known if the presumptive democratic nominee will agree to take part, although she's previously indicated that she is ready. trump says the debate will feature a full arena audience. errol malkovitch , audience. errol malkovitch, spokesperson for republicans overseas, told us trump is annoyed and now he's calling the shots. >> he agreed to do two debates with president biden, but unfortunately , president biden unfortunately, president biden didn't have the ability to go the length of the full length of the length of the full length of the distance. and he donald trump, feels a little bit cheated that he spent all of his money and campaigning against somebody who is obviously a zombie candidate. in addition to that, he's got a current litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc. litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc . and so stephanopoulos and abc. and so he no longer feels that since the terms have changed, that he should have to do the debate there. and it looks like as of this morning, per his own messages on truth social, that there will be a debate. it will be in pennsylvania, and it will

be in pennsylvania, and it will be two days before early voting starts. >> okay. those are the latest dup news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray. he's really rather good at that , he's really rather good at that, isn't he? right. okay. let's get straight into today's story, shall we? now, another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police office, set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland. the demonstration in sunderland was one of more than a dozen that had been planned across the country this weekend. that's as the prime minister warned protesters they could face the full force of the law in a bid to crack down on the violence. this all comes after three

little girls were murdered dunng little girls were murdered during a mass stabbing in southport. joining me now is gb news reporter adam cherry . adam, news reporter adam cherry. adam, are you there? my lovely? yes you are adam. thank you very much for joining you are adam. thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon, can you tell us what's happening where you are today ? today? >> yeah. so i'm standing outside the home office today, and in london, we're expecting two protests. actually, one is enough. is enough, rally, which is in response to southport. like we've seen, over the last few days and also a pro—palestine rally. so the question is, do the police have the resources to deal with both ? the resources to deal with both? what happens if they collide? will that inflame tensions even more? we just don't know. we don't know how many people are going to going to be here and whether it will escalate over the next few hours . as ray the next few hours. as ray addison said in the bulletins. keir starmer vowing to be robust and make sure that those who are violent face the full force of

the law. but of course, the political tensions here and the tightrope he has to walk is very difficult. appearing to be tough on on crime here, but also acknowledging that in a few weeks time he's going to have to release a load of prisoners because all the jails are full, times, the times newspaper this morning, also reporting that next week keir starmer is set to go on holiday. now, obviously , go on holiday. now, obviously, if these riots continue and things get worse, then you would expect that he'll have to postpone those plans. not only that, but bear in mind parliament isn't even sitting at the moment. it rose for recess on tuesday and already you're seeing calls for it to be returned early. the likes of priti patel, former home secretary, who is of course, now a tory leadership contender , a tory leadership contender, saying it should be it should be returned early and we need to debate this. so, a very busy first month for the prime minister. i think we can agree the honeymoon period is well and truly over . truly over. >> indeed. adam, do we know what time the march is due to start

today? are they due to start roughly the same time, or the demonstrations are roughly the same time in roughly the same area in london? >> well , the enough is enough >> well, the enough is enough rally, i believe, starts at midday, and then we'll end at downing street a few hours later. again, it depends the pro—palestine rally i'm not entirely sure of its route, but it does begin at a similar time, perhaps 1:00, 2:00. again, details are scant on the ground here, but we do expect some level of agitation. >> indeed. adam cherry, there reporting for us from outside the home office in london about the home office in london about the two separate rallies happening today, we just hope that everything passes off peacefully and sensibly. and it's a demonstration making a point, not causing more violence. okay, now let's see what my panel make of this. i've got double m a treat for you today. got double m a treat for you today . emma woolf and got double m a treat for you today. emma woolf and emma burnell. i feel like i'm sort of

like the d in the middle, which is not a bad place to be, to be honest with you. obviously, ladies, we saw horrific scenes last night in sunderland, there are warnings that, you know, there are more demonstrations, planned for today. what do we make of what we've seen so far and what police fear might be expected to happen this weekend? emma, i'm going to come to you first on this. i'm coming to you first on this. i'm coming to you first on this one. dir. dawn. emma woolf, i'm coming to you first on this one. i've got to keep saying that now, haven't i, emma? >> yeah, as you say that those two rallies planned in central london, but also 30, up to 30 other planned rallies across the uk this weekend. so blackburn, leeds, manchester, preston, blackpool, liverpool, nottingham, many other places , nottingham, many other places, there are lists circulating on social media. we are braced for more riots. and the fact is, dawn, when you have police stations being set on fire, when you have shops being looted, when you have burglaries, when you have random violence like this, it doesn't matter what the

protesters are protesting against, doesn't matter what side you're on, what we label them. this is lawlessness . this them. this is lawlessness. this is violence and thuggery, and it has to stop the events in southport, those murders of those little girls were so shocking and so appalling for those families and for everyone involved. and this is no solution. this is absolutely no solution. this is absolutely no solution to what happened. there are many issues to be debated. and, you know, community tensions play a part and all of that and a feeling that people are not being heard. i think that's what we've seen over recent years, a feeling of impotence that people are not being heard, the people on the ground, the little people. but this is no answer to the murders of three little girls. >> emma burnell. i mean, the irony, if that's the right word, it's not even linked. i mean, what happened to those poor children and their families is not linked to what some of the protesters seem to think it is unked protesters seem to think it is linked to. there was a lot of misinformation, much of it put out by a russian bot channel. if you were that have inflamed this

situation , what can we do about situation, what can we do about this? how can we stop this? >> absolutely. i mean, i want to echo emma's other emma's sentiments completely. there is a strong tradition in this country of legitimate protests, be that on the left or on the right, which we should all be proud of. this is not that this is thuggery. and it's i mean , i is thuggery. and it's i mean, i met someone many, many years ago who was a football hooligan. they couldn't care less about football. they were a hooligan. and this is the same. they're just glomming on to whichever excuse for their disgusting, violent behaviour. and it is, as you say, being fired up by misinformation, being spread in social media. now i am an advocate of free speech, but whenever we talk about free

speech, we go back to the 18th century phrase. when we first started discussing these concepts, sort of within modern democracies of you can't shout fire in a theatre that's not free speech. the 21st century equivalent is spreading misinformation on social media that is, shouting fire in a theatre. it is not a free speech issue . it is a theatre. it is not a free speech issue. it is a lying issue. it issue. it is a lying issue. it is an inflaming tensions issue and it is trying to gin up as much violence and disorder as possible in to order completely delegitimize any of the democratic debates that we should and could be having around any of these issues, whether they be about the war in gaza or whether they be about community tensions and immigration in the uk. >> emma woolf coming back to you on this one. i mean, yeah , this on this one. i mean, yeah, this has been stirred up by social media, but some of the rhetoric we are hearing from politicians also is not being helpful. i mean, keir starmer, the other day saying, you know, these are thugs. this will not be

tolerated , but why didn't he tolerated, but why didn't he come out and say something after the problem? we saw in leeds, for example, when similar rioting in the streets, police cars being torched, buildings being torched, etc. etc. there was no comments then . was no comments then. >> he seemed to be very slow off the mark actually, and now he's sort of almost jumped into, you know, jumped into action and has been to southport. i think, twice during the week because the outrage was so overwhelming. i think this is a dangerous time. i think this is a dangerous time. i think this is a dangerous time. i think that, you know, a lot of people feel that the uk is, well, the world, but also the uk is sort of on the brink of something really. i mean, this is pretty, pretty bad, but on the brink of something really explosive. i think the summer evenings don't help. that sounds silly, but i think there's a lot of people just out, just out roaming around. i think there's a lot of people not working, not feeling that they belong or that they are valued. i think there's social stuff as well as the kind of environmental stuff. and the government, you know, we've got a new government. they've been in power. what i guess less than a month, nearly a month, a month tomorrow. yeah, and whatever you think of the new labour government and the emma's will

probably disagree on that, yeah . probably disagree on that, yeah. it doesn't feel that keir starmer has control of this situation at all. in fact, his speech in southport, was it yesterday or the day before i think didn't help, you know, really labelling people because i think that further stokes the fire and stokes anger. >> it's the it's the phraseology isn't it. emma burnell, you know the phrase right wing now , there the phrase right wing now, there are a lot of people out there with genuine concerns who are not right wing. they're not the people writing on the streets, but they they feel like they are being tarred with this brush now of having genuine concerns. do you do you think maybe there is that's a legitimate concern there are people on the extremes of the right wing and the extremes of the left wing, who move beyond democratic debate and into thuggery , and that is and into thuggery, and that is true on both sides. >> and there are right wing thugs and that's what we're seeing being ginned up in southport. and there are left wing thugs. and we've seen that

being ginned up over, you know, issues around gaza and other things. so i think we need to separate the politics of the moment and the reaction to the behaviour of the moment. i think the response to violence against the response to violence against the police, violence against communities should be the same no matter what banner people are marching under for that violence. and i think that the home office should be treating these things equally seriously , these things equally seriously, i don't think there's a problem with saying that i would , with saying that i would, support keir starmer were he to say that i think the response to harehills and this has been different. but i mean , harehills different. but i mean, harehills was like, what, a week into you can kind of see that maybe they were not on the front foot at that point, i think he was right in his language when he said, this is thuggery. i think being that strong and saying, there is a line, there is a line. and if

you cross it, you will feel the consequences. and that for me, felt like the former dpp coming out in him. you know , he what out in him. you know, he what keir starmer is as much as anything else, is an institutionalist, a believer in those law and order institutions. >> the other there was a i can't remember what story. it was paper it was in today about two tier policing is a myth. that's the actual headline. do you think that's the case, emma? >> i was going to say, and i was thinking of that while emma was speaking there. i'm not sure that it is, if, you know. of course it should be. policing should be. well, a it should be done with consent and b , it done with consent and b, it should be sort of without fear or favour. it should be impartial . and i think for a impartial. and i think for a good few months since really since october 7 and then the beginnings of the big protests , beginnings of the big protests, pro—palestinian marches across central london and the sense that there is soft policing on one side or two tier policing. and then if, say , say, tommy and then if, say, say, tommy robinson and his followers have a demonstration, the police are straight in there. so i don't think there is a sense that it is fair and that it is impartial

and that it is just about the law. people are being policed in different ways depending on what their views are and how they're labelled. >> just very quickly, we're running out of time. emma, would you like to comment on that? >> yeah, just to say, i mean, i think it's a i think that there were mistakes made at the beginning of the, the pro—palestinian marches. but i also think that there is a level of degree in the behaviours that we've seen in terms of the violence. i loathe the kind of anti—semitic sloganising that you have seen in some quarters on those marches. there is a difference between carrying an appalling banner and throwing a rock at the police. and i think when we're talking about tiered policing, it is also about tiered behaviour to okay, but yeah, okay, well we'll move on. >> we will be coming back to this subject obviously, because it is a subject that many of you want to comment on to, there is another protest and counter—protests later on today, actually in liverpool. joining me now is gb news reporter anna riley , who is there for us

riley, who is there for us today. anna, thank you for joining us. can you bring us a bit up to speed on what's happening in liverpool today ? happening in liverpool today? >> good afternoon don. well, yes. all quiet in liverpool here at the moment. but what we do know is that around 30 miles away in manchester, in piccadilly gardens, hundreds of protesters have turned out and it seems that there is rival protest groups to stand up racism put out on social media that they are opposing these other protest groups that have started up. so you've got two protests in effect happening, and that's what's expected later. this afternoon here in liverpool. we know that there's over 30 protests that's been identified across the uk this weekend, and we know that they haven't necessarily been centrally organised. a lot of this information as to where the protests are and the times is all being advertised on social media. so certainly that can

make it harder for the police to tackle. but they've certainly spread the message of the police. they've said they've encouraged people to stay away from these protests. and they said those that they found breaking the law will face the full strength of the law. >> anna, thank you very much , >> anna, thank you very much, anna riley. we'll be staying with us for the rest of the programme in liverpool to bring us up to date on the marches and demonstrations that are happening in that particular city. now for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and many more, please do go to our website which is gb news .com. now do you want to hear about something nice? well here is how you can win £30,000 this very well. not this minute. we can you can enter this very minute. it's very easy to do so it's our latest great british giveaway and it's the biggest prize we're giving away. so far this summer. and it could all be yours. and it's really simple. here's exactly how you do it. >> don't miss out on your chance to win a whopping £30,000 in tax

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that a well, i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news at the weekend and there's lots more coming up on today's show, tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that integration is working. does she have a point, though ? all of have a point, though? all of that and much more to come. this is gb news. britain's news channel. don't you dare too far

welcome back to the weekend with me. dawn neesom. now a tory leadership hopeful, kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that integration is working. the shadow minister says we just pretend that everything is fine and it's just a few bad apples, which sometimes is the case. but if you want to have a successful multiracial country, you need to make an effort to do that . let's make an effort to do that. let's see what my panel make of that

one, shall we? now, this is the front page of the telegraph that i remember what paper that was in, thankfully. and they have got this exclusive interview with kemi badenoch, who was obviously thrown a hat into the ring to be the tory leadership candidate, personally, i think what she says makes a fair bit of sense , basically saying that of sense, basically saying that there are people out there who feel their voices are not being heard emma burnell and that they are worried about the way the country is going. and in particular about migration. what do you make about what cameron's had to say? >> i mean, i think there it's undeniable. there are people who definitely feel like that , definitely feel like that, whether that means the integration itself is completely failing or not, i suspect that is often context specific. i do you mean by that ? so i think you mean by that? so i think there are places where communities have become too insular, where we are not integration hasn't happened,

frankly , and then i come back to frankly, and then i come back to where i live . i'm actually where i live. i'm actually writing a play at the moment based on my slimming world group, and it's actually dedicated to the woman i call my slimming world mummy, whose birthday it was this week. happy birthday, gulnaz mughal. happy birthday, gulnaz mughal. happy birthday wonderful muslim matriarch and matriarch of our slimming world group. and she's fabulous. and what i love about that group is that on our whatsapps we get iftaarjokes, whatsapps we get iftaar jokes, we get christmas jokes, we get easter egg jokes. they're all food related, obviously. obviously and that is integration working. so i think that there are places and east london is probably quite a good successful sign of it where it works very well. what we need to do is then look at other places where there is so much less actual integration and integration . whether integration integration. whether integration or not works is probably a separate question from whether we are integrating. i. for example, sometimes get, some

pushback from some certain quarters of the left because i say it's really, really important that people learn to speak english. one of the reasons i say that is as a feminist, there's quite a lot of evidence that where that doesn't happen, women are more subject to oppression and domestic violence within their communities. so i have taken a stance saying, if you live in a country where english is the dominant language, in order to have all the freedoms that that country affords you, you need to be able to take those opportunities. one of the ways to do that is to make sure that you can speak that language that i don't believe is a racist stance, but is sometimes seen as such by some people that for me, giving people those opportunities is integration. are we doing that properly ? not are we doing that properly? not all the time. and that's what i mean by it's context specific . mean by it's context specific. >> i think what kemi is, is implying here that there is a life in the westminster bubble, isn't listening to what a lot of

people are saying out there, and a lot of people are worried to articulate their views out there because they will be called racist if they even say they're worried about migration. that is racist. you get shut down. i mean, what kemi says here, a direct quote is they you know, they don't want to upset the culture. these are the people that are right. you know, the westminster bubble. they don't want to upset the cultural establishment that wants to pretend there is nothing going on. >> kemi badenoch is saying there's been a culture of silence on the effects of immigration, and she's absolutely right, dawn. we can pretend it's working. yeah, we can pretend there's nothing wrong with the country. and then look at the riots around the country. there is something wrong. so we can either be honest and talk about it and not shut people down as xenophobic and racist, which is what people do with trump supporters. it's what they do with brexiteers. and look at the results. this is what we've seen over the past 5 to 10 years. the more you say to people, no, no, you can't say that. no, that's racist . the that. no, that's racist. the more tensions are inflamed. like emma, i live probably, probably

not that far away. and i see integration happening brilliantly. where i live in london, my baby, my son's nursery is full of children of every different race and colour and creed. and that's a wonderful thing. and it is working in many places. and i think the uk is a really welcoming, generous country. we've had multiculturalism here, food for example, cultural festivals, everything that we celebrate, we've had it here forever for many, many decades. yes, it works, but we are reaching a tipping point. we are reaching a tipping point. we are reaching a tipping point. we are reaching a time at which our pubuc reaching a time at which our public services are under so much pressure, at which i know older people who live in poorer areas down on the south coast, they don't feel safe to leave their homes because their town centres. and i'm quoting directly from a very close friend, is full of young foreign men who have arrived, who are being put in in hostels that used to be old people's homes. you can ignore it or you can listen to people. you can listen to british people who feel that way about their local areas. and it matters. it matters. and if you ignore it, then you have

rallies and riots and protests. does your friend feel she's being listened to? >> does she feel anyone's listened to? >> absolutely not. and she feels and she voted reform and she feels angry and she feels that it's not safe for her and her elderly husband to go out into the town centre. >> so, so why are some politicians implying that that is a far right attitude? emma burnell. >> so i think there's a vast difference. i think where the centre, whether that centre left or centre right, has gone wrong and is trying to box away from the debate itself, you get debates about immigration numbers up here and it's all figures. it's all we're going to bnng figures. it's all we're going to bring it to the tens of thousands, whatever. it's very, very little of the human element, whether that be the human element of those communities that you were talking about or the human beings who are coming over. and some integrating perfectly well, some integrating perfectly well, some less so . and then there's some less so. and then there's the separate conversation that doesn't really happen about, well, how do we make this work?

how do how do we make this work? how do how do we make this work? how do how do we make this work? how do we make our public services work properly for the country that we have, which we haven't for quite some time? how do we make sure that we are giving every child in this country the right kind of life chances? how do we make sure that old people do feel safe on the streets? and how do we take that conversation about public services and not make it about scapegoating? >> i'm so sorry to interrupt, but it's not just endless. pubuc but it's not just endless. public services are not just endless. how about the conversation where we say, how much can we? how many more people can we welcome? and i think it is about welcoming people . we are you know. yeah, absolutely. >> i'm not i'm not disagreeing with it can just be endless. no. >> and sorry ad infinitum. >> and sorry ad infinitum. >> it's not ad infinitum, but it is about saying, well, what are the what are the balancing forces and how do we make that work? >> we can't take any more isn't racist, but but it's not. >> and i'm not saying that. what i am saying is that there is a conversation because there are

pluses and minuses on both sides, and we have to have that honest conversation where both sides get to get to speak and unfortunately, you've really put your points across brilliantly. >> thank you both, emma. but we've run out of time on that particular debate for now. so we have to move on. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news at the weekend and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, yep, it's the headlines with ray . it's the headlines with ray. >> thanks, dawn. 1233 exactly. our top stories northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night. videos posted online showed a former police office ablaze while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with police throwing rocks and bottles. five officers were injured, with four hospitalised and ten people arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary ,

violent disorder and burglary, while the uk's most senior police commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration following rioting and civil unrest. donna jones is calling for sir keir starmer to address protesters concerns as the country faces more than 30 demonstrations this weekend alone. she says the announcement of the prime minister's new violent crime unit has to led an accusation of two tier policing and, quote , inflamed protesters . and, quote, inflamed protesters. the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert. then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis in 2018 and telling viewers how best to raise money. a spokesman for bbc children in need said they had removed the video out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. two men have appeared in court charged in connection with an alleged arson

attack on ukrainian linked businesses in london. 22 year old jacqui barrington rose, of croydon and 19 year old eugenius yasmin of wandsworth, have been charged with aggravated arson. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. the met police believe the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group . behalf of russia's wagner group. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much. i just want to read one comment out quickly. i'm going to get some more of your messages. so please do them. i'll tell you how to in a minute. this is from paul. good afternoon paul. thank you for getting in touch. paul says a multi—racial country is doable. a multicultural country

is not very interesting point. let me know if you agree with that one. and this is how you do it. it's very simple, any other stories? we're discussing today as well if you want to have a chat, basically just visit gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation, okay? and you're really not going to want to miss this, are you, tonight, gb news speak to the son of donald trump, eric trump. just weeks after his father was almost assassinated . that's this assassinated. that's this evening in this evening from 9 pm. in a gb news exclusive. you really want to miss it. and there's lots more coming up on today's show before that as well, olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them from injuries amid the gender boxing rules still going on, all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom, and this is the weekend with gb news, britain's channel. don't get too

hello. welcome back . i've got hello. welcome back. i've got a nice cup of tea in front of you now, or possibly a beer because it is the weekend and that's what the show is called now. it's great, isn't it? we spent hours coming up with that, i'm dawn neesom and this is indeed the weekend on gb news. thank you for joining the weekend on gb news. thank you forjoining us. you for joining us. >> i think we should just rename the show emma. like everybody else, like emma. >> just call everyone emma these days. male, female, whatever . days. male, female, whatever. emma i'm dawn, actually, by the way. but now we talk about olympics. shall we? the international boxing association will award italian boxer angela carini the prize money she would have won if she had become olympic champion. carini has beenin olympic champion. carini has been in the spotlight. how can you forget this, after abandoning her fight against controversial algerian boxer iman khalife, the athlete at the centre of a gender eligibility storm. now, this story has been rumbling on. it was. it was an astonishing 45 seconds of boxing. and i've done boxing

training, to watch. i wasn't quite sure, what to make of it, but the gender role that has developed from this over whether, a man and a fellow taiwanese athlete are eligible to fight as they fouled a section under another boxing authority. but the ioc have different rules. so they're allowed to fight as females, i'm going to come to you first on this one. emma woolf. i mean, we should be talking about the glory of the medals and the, you know, and how wonderful to see people win. we're not this is overshadowing the whole olympics now, this gender row about biological men , they have x y biological men, they have x y chromosomes, fighting biological women. what do you make? >> well, i'm going to stay away from you. i hadn't realised you were quite a while ago . fearsome were quite a while ago. fearsome in the boxing ring. >> i have been smacked in the face by a biological man as well. it's not a good thing. really? >> yeah, exactly. and that's what the angela carini was saying. i don't want to comment on the case of khalife in as an individual, because i think we

have to remember there's a person involved in all this. absolutely and remember caster semenya talking about how it felt. and i think, you know, it has it seems to be clear from what the ioc are saying that she is a woman and we have to just take that on trust. but look, there's no doubt that men have a significant physical advantage when it comes to competitive sport, not just boxing, where it's power and strength, but in terms of their bone density, in terms of their bone density, in terms of their bone density, in terms of muscle mass, in terms of that speed, power , explosive of that speed, power, explosive power, lung capacity even even with, yeah, lung capacity, red blood cell oxygen, take up all of that. even men who have transitioned. and i know we're not talking about trans now, but even men who have transitioned and have lower testosterone. the fact that they've been through male puberty gives them greater strength and greater power. so men are stronger. they are bigger. they are they are faster. that that that said, i think we need to work out where we are on this. i think we need to work out the ioc are being very clear. they're saying, no, we're not doing we're not going to do

gender testing. it's interesting that they're only going to test women because you're you don't get men. >> i thought that was a bit weird. >> you don't get women asking to fight against men, fight against men, male sport. but i think, you know, in society as well as in sport, we need to work out what we think about this. look, there are cases where you have intersex people, where there where people are born with, with both sexual characteristics and those are really difficult and kind of biologically complicated cases. and there is no answer to that. no. >> this is what we think. i mean, the reason we're discussing it again today by the way, is because iman is due to fight again. she's fighting at hunganan fight again. she's fighting at hungarian and luca hamouri, who say she is not worried about getting in the ring with her, now the confusing here is you've got two boxing authorities, one saying these two fighters are , saying these two fighters are, fould a sex test. so therefore we don't deem them to be biological women. and it's not fair for them to fight women. meanwhile, the ioc, the olympic committee say their passports say they're women. they are

therefore allowed to fight women. what do you make of this mess? basically the mess is part of the wider conversational mess that we've been having, and that's why, wrongly, this debate has been conflated with the trans issue debate as well. >> you know the difference . >> you know the difference. there are overlapping issues, which is the difference between sex and gender. >> yeah, neither iman khalife or the other fighter lin yu ting, who also filed a sex test. it was also fighting, is they're not trans gender. >> they're not transgender. they're not transgender women . they're not transgender women. they're not transgender women. they are, women who have a i think it's called a difference of sex disorder, dsd, dsd, a difference in sex development is a very rare group of conditions. well, it's quite rare. it's less rare than we think, but there's a broad spectrum of them. so it's 1 in 200, i a broad spectrum of them. so it's1 in 200, i believe. but it's 1 in 200, i believe. but that might be as mild as having

a engorged . i don't know whether a engorged. i don't know whether i can say this word on on this show at lunchtime, but an engorged clitoris. yeah. >> and a large a biological term. i think we're allowed to say that, >> so an awful lot of the dsd conditions are simply, quite superficial. some of them are more, extreme and will have a difference. therefore, in pubertal development. and that is where these , these sex tests is where these, these sex tests that things like the boxing authority apply and the olympics don't . and that's that it's that don't. and that's that it's that pubertal development that bring all the things that emma was talking about in terms of male physical advantage , and that physical advantage, and that i would say particularly in a sport like boxing, but in pretty much any sport there are, you know, there are differences within the male category and the female category . you had the female category. you had the fabulous fatima whitbread on this channel earlier. i don't

normally fangirl, but i totally do of her, she and i, if you were to ask us both to throw a javelin, she'd get it a lot further than i would. and that's. but we are both women. yes, but there are. we would be competing on a fair playing field as to our skill. if i if she were asked to throw a javelin against somebody who was a man, they would not be competing on a fair playing field. >> and that's where this is a safety issue as well. >> absolutely. boxing, rugby, you know, big contact sports that boxer said she had never been hit so hard in her life. >> and you can only just hear that and think, wow. and as a former boxer, you must know what she means, which is that men and women, i was only training and sparring. >> i was not in different isn't it fighting ring? >> absolutely. and this is it . >> absolutely. and this is it. there are there are differences of fairness and there are differences of safety and all of these things are why we have complicated rules to protect female sports, which don't appear to be working .

appear to be working. >> unfortunately, we have run out of time on that one. so we have to move on. unfortunately, and it is a huge thank you to my panel and it is a huge thank you to my panel, the wonderful team. emma, i think i can say emma woolf and emma burnell. so thank you both very much for joining emma burnell. so thank you both very much forjoining me and for having very, very robust opinions, which is what the show is all about. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news the weekend, and there's lots more coming up on today's show, the good side of the olympics, team gb are flying in paris after making a record breaking start to the olympic games, bringing all the latest on what medals were won and what we do to win today. fingers crossed. this is gb news britain's news channel the weekend. don't dare go too

hello and welcome back to the weekend with me dawn neesom. now team gb are flying in paris after making a record breaking start to the olympic games.

entering day eight, the brits have brought home ten gold medals are the most they have ever achieved inside the first week. can it only get better though? well, they've already got off to a cracking start today. joining me now in the studio is sports broadcaster well sports supremo i think a fitting description and journalist aidan magee, who has promised me he was going to wear colour and he's actually wearing it's very nearly it's green. i think we complement each other perfectly , i should be wearing perfectly, i should be wearing gold though, actually, because we're doing pretty well, aren't we? >> we are indeed. and i feel jumping. i feel like jumping through hoops myself, actually, dawn, because just in the last couple of hours, we've had some more success on the water in the men's eight. we won gold, we beat the netherlands. and interesting because a guy called tom ford, who's one of the one of the competitors, his sister, emily ford, was part of the women's eights as well, who won one bronze shortly after. yeah. so that means his mum and dad somewhere are without doubt. yeah. so that's a record haul for an overseas games on the water. and it's the best since

2012. disappointment though just in the last hour or so. again with jeremie azou on the track 100 metre heats. team gb athlete. he's been disqualified because of a false start. now. he appealed it because he said that the javelin was going on on the field and he couldn't hear the, the, the trigger. but, but nonetheless, he's, he's always confused me when you've got the, you know, the track events, but you've got the sort of like, you know, the throwing and the jumping stuff going on in the middle of the track at the same time. >> it's like, i know exactly. >> it's like, i know exactly. >> it's like, i know exactly. >> it seems like an odd spectacle because, like, you know, it's kind of you wouldn't have that. i can't think of any other arena where where you'd have multiple things going on, really. i mean, if you're if you've got a seat in the crowd you've got a seat in the crowd you want to be able to see, i suppose you can see everything but you if you're if you're looking at the heats of 100m, it's focused on it's over in nine seconds. so you want to be able to take it in properly, even if it's only for a short penod even if it's only for a short period of time. but yeah, more success. yesterday i want to start with, again, the rowing and the women's lightweight sculls, imogene grant and emily craig both won gold. what was it? what was it interesting about imogene grant is that she starts work as a foundation

doctor at a hospital in slough next week. so this time next week, she'll be moaning about the nhs, won't she? rather than celebrating her celebrating her championship. but also she's by winning that, the pair of them winning that, the pair of them winning that. it's a championship for life as a medal for life because they're declassifying that particular discipline. >> you can't be beaten. >> you can't be beaten. >> no you can't. well, unless they bring it has been known before that they've they've downgraded them for a couple of couple of games and then brought them back. so that was well done to, to her. and you mentioned as well just off, off off screen bryony page in the gold and the trampolining i love this . she trampolining i love this. she wants to see that out there. >> oh my god. her reaction was just like brilliant. >> well she she thought she'd won and then she she celebrated too early. yeah. but actually she was spared the embarrassment when she came. good. eventually. but she wants to be in cirque de soleil. and she also did it with a little twinge in her neck as well. and i can't imagine that's a very pleasant place to be when, you know, you've got that niggling injury at the back that could aggravate you at any time. and yet she pulled through and got the job done. so very well done to her. congratulations. and in the swimming pool as well. we should say duncan scott became the most decorated scottish olympian in the 200 metre medley, winning silver and now the guy he was pipped by,

you know, leon marchand , watched you know, leon marchand, watched by emmanuel macron in the crowd, no doubt sensing a photo opportunity. he is the first swimmer to win four golds at one game since michael phelps, and he's going to be become one of the legends. he's 22 years old. he's probably got four more olympics in him. >> i'm loving the swimming. i'm loving the swimming. aidan, thank you very much. running out of time. unfortunately, this is gb news. i'm dawn neesom. but what is the weather doing this weekend if you're going swimming and aiming for a medal or not? here's the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it starts to turn more unsettled over the next few days, particularly across the north—west of the uk, with some heavy rain in the forecast, particularly by monday. but for now we do have weather fronts across the engush weather fronts across the english channel giving some outbreaks of rain here. england and wales generally dry with some sunny spells. early rain

clearing but a scattering of showers for northern ireland and scotland as we end the day. but generally overnight, it turns dner generally overnight, it turns drier for a time , but then drier for a time, but then thicker cloud will bring patchy rain in across northern ireland. western parts of scotland generally stays dry across england and wales for everyone. temperatures staying in double figures but lower than recent night, so a little more comfortable for sleeping. so a mixed start to sunday. a lot of cloud across the uk. if we take a look at scotland first thing in the morning, you can see outbreaks of rain across western areas a bit brighter across parts of aberdeenshire. some sunny spells here, the rain extending into parts of northern ireland, western parts of northern england too, but generally light and patchy. some bright skies down the east coast of england and then some hazy , of england and then some hazy, sunny spells across parts of england and wales. but the cloud, thick enough even across parts of wales over the high ground for 1 parts of wales over the high ground for1 or 2 splashes of ground for 1 or 2 splashes of rain as we move through the day, we'll continue to see outbreaks of rain pushing into northern ireland, northwestern parts of scotland, some heavier bursts

possible at times, a few showers developing across the rest of scotland into northern england, perhaps wales later as well. the best of any brightness holding on across east and south—east england. here temperatures rising to around 23 or 24 celsius for most, nearer to average, though feeling cooler than recent days. highs around 18 degrees as we go into the evening time . some heavier rain evening time. some heavier rain developing across parts of northern ireland into western parts of scotland, which will continue through into monday as well. met office warning in force here for that heavy rain followed by showers as we head into tuesday and wednesday. temperatures starting to come down to looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> thank you very much, greg. i'm dawn neesom this is gb news the weekend and there's loads more coming up on today's show. so don't dare go anywhere but first. actually no that's actually no we're not doing

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away . oh, dear. all right. good away. oh, dear. all right. good afternoon. it's 1:00 away. oh, dear. all right. good afternoon. it's1:00 on away. oh, dear. all right. good afternoon. it's 1:00 on saturday the 3rd of august. this is the weekend on gb. news now. unfortunately, another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police force, set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland. then tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that integration is working. does she have a point, though ? and olympic point, though? and olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them from injuries amid the gender boxing row. it's going on still, i'm dawn neesom and this is indeed the weekend on gb news.

but this show is nothing without you and your views, and i am determined to read as many as i can out this hour. don't worry. let me know your thoughts on all the stories we'll be discussing today by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation, keeping me company this hour. another brilliant panel for you . it's already got panel for you. it's already got quite sorted, to be honest with you. co—founder of novara media, michael walker looking lovely in shorts, which i said i wouldn't say, but oops, i have, and social policy analysis. doctor rakib hasan, who's looking very dapperin rakib hasan, who's looking very dapper in proper trousers. michael. but before we get stuck into today's stories, here's the news with ray addison also looking very dapper.

>> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. 1:01, our top stories this hour. northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night. videos posted online showed a former police office ablaze while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with officers throwing rocks and bottles. five police officers were injured, with four hospitalised and ten people arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary. chief superintendent mark hall issued this warning to rioters make no mistake, if you were involved last night, expect to be met with the full force of the law. >> i want to make it absolutely clear that the disorder , clear that the disorder, violence and damage which has occurred will not be tolerated. >> the uk's most senior police and crime commissioner is urging the government to explain how it

will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration following rioting and civil unrest. donna jones is calling for sir keir starmer to address protesters concerns as the country faces more than 30 demonstrations this weekend alone . she said the announcement alone. she said the announcement of the prime minister's new violent crime unit has led to an accusation of two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters. the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert. then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis back in 2018 and telling viewers how best to raise money. he's understood the teenager was found for the video through a casting agency. a spokesperson for bbc children in need said they had removed the video out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. two people have been charged in connection with an alleged arson attack on ukrainian linked

businesses in london. 22 year old jakeem barrington rose, of croydon and 19 year old eugenius asahina of wandsworth have both been charged with aggravated arson following counter—terrorism investigations. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. the met believes the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group. they are due to appear at westminster magistrates court today . police magistrates court today. police have launched a murder investigation following a fatal stabbing in norwich . officers stabbing in norwich. officers were called to paragon place last night where a man was pronounced dead at the scene. norfolk constabulary believe it's an isolated incident. they say there's no wider risk to the public, but they're appealing to anyone who may have witnessed the incident to get in touch . the incident to get in touch. donald trump has agreed to debate vice president kamala harris. he's accepted an offer from fox news for a televised face off on september the 4th. it's not yet known if the presumptive democratic nominee will agree to take part,

although she's previously indicated that she is ready . indicated that she is ready. trump says the debate will feature a full, full arena audience. ariel mortkowicz, spokesman for republicans overseas, told us trump's annoyed and he's calling the shots. >> he agreed to do two debates with president biden, but unfortunately, president biden didn't have the ability to go the length, the full length of the length, the full length of the distance. and he, donald trump feels a little bit cheated that he spent all of this money and campaigning against somebody who is obviously a zombie. in addition to that, he's got a current litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc. current litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc . and so stephanopoulos and abc. and so he no longer feels that since the terms have changed, that he should have to do the debate there. and it looks like as of this morning, per his own messages on truth social, that there will be a debate, it will be in pennsylvania, and it will be in pennsylvania, and it will be two days before early voting starts. >> those are all your latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to

news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much. i just want to read one comment that's come in from craig. hello craig, thank you for your comment echoing what a lot of you are saying out there. you say, craig, multiculturalism culturalism isn't great. if the people coming into the country accept british values, the problem sorry, multicultural is great. if the people come into the country, accept british values , the problem is they values, the problem is they don't. and craig, you are certainly echoing a lot of the sentiments coming in on our messages . so, right, let's get messages. so, right, let's get straight into today's story , straight into today's story, shall we, another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police office. a police officer set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland. the demonstration in sunderland was one of more than a dozen that have been planned across the country. this weekend . that's as

country. this weekend. that's as the prime minister warned protesters , they would face the protesters, they would face the full force of the law in a bid to crack down on the violence. this all comes after we know the story now, don't we, after the horrific murder of the three girls during a mass stabbing in southport, joining me now is gb news reporter dougie beattie. dougie, i wonder, can you tell us where you are and what's happening ? happening? >> well, i'm in belfast city centre, where earlier on in the week there was an anti—immigration rally organised. and then what happened was a pro—immigration rally was organised at the same time in the same place. and what we have on one side of the street. if you ever wanted to explain how this unrest happens on one side of the street, we have unions, we have pro—palestinian. gay pride all on one side of the street protesting that they want immigrants to come in. but most of these people are white collar people, middle class people. and on the other side of the street,

we have, working class people who are anti—immigration because, of course, it's the working class areas that have took the majority of these immigrants into their areas, and they are feeling the effects of this first. but when we when i arrived here, it was only one side of the demonstration there of course, the other side arrived, and then the first side, which the middle class people, which i was astounded by, started chanting nazi scum, get off our streets! at which point , this side, which i must point, this side, which i must say has people from dublin in amongst it, the kulak, disturbances, etc. and the amazing point is for the first time in my life, i have seen a union jack flying alongside a tricolour to say these people of ireland don't want in. and if you look at how the community split , split by the police, we split, split by the police, we have a line of land rovers straight down the street. these land rovers are riot land rovers, the psni, the police service of northern ireland is

extremely well rehearsed in deaung extremely well rehearsed in dealing with riot situations. the underneath of these you've seen the other night in southport that the police wagon was set on fire. that really doesn't happen here. these are made of kevlar and underneath of them have huge cages that stops objects going underneath them and clears the way during a riot situation, those snatch squads in the police acted earlier on. one arrest has already been made and at this minute in time, the police are trying to split both these, protesters on both sides and send them off in different directions. but i can't say stuff on one side is getting extremely tetchy, >> dougie, thank you very much. that's dougie beattie there. live in belfast for us. where? there already appears to be, certainly some aggravation at that particular demonstration and two demonstrations going on there. let's just hope that it does stay relatively peaceful and no one gets hurt. joining me now is gb news reporter adam

cherry , who is in london for us. cherry, who is in london for us. adam, can you tell us what's going on where you are today ? going on where you are today? >> yeah. so a slightly different protest actually. palestine solidarity campaign. they kicked off in the last hour and the metropolitan police have given them strict guidelines on where they can march, and they will finish at downing street later on this afternoon. they have to be dispersed by about 430. they began on park lane . and there's began on park lane. and there's also another protest at the same time , roughly speaking, that time, roughly speaking, that began roughly the same time, which is enough is enough rally. and they have been told to stay within a certain radius of piccadilly circus. now obviously, the question is, do both groups respect those section 12 and section 14 orders? do they does it do things escalate? obviously, these things have gotten out of handin these things have gotten out of hand in the past. keir starmer vowing to be robust on protests in the last week or so. but the question is what happens if

these things get out of control? do the police have enough resources if they need to make arrests, how do they manage that? when in a couple of weeks time we may have to see prisoners released early from prisoners released early from prison because they're overcrowded so politically very delicate. and today, you know, at the moment it's safe, but it could escalate. >> adam cherry, thank you very much, adam. and draghi before him will be staying with us throughout the program to bring us up to date on any developments on the various protests taking place around the country today , let's see what my country today, let's see what my panel make of this. i have michael walker and raqib essam with me, michael, as we've already seen, things are getting quite heated in belfast, what do you make of what you witnessed in sunderland last night? and what potentially could again kick off this afternoon? >> yeah, i suppose i mean, first of all, i'd point out i think you're sort of reporter from belfast, heavily editorialised there sort of suggesting it's there sort of suggesting it's the working class people who don't like migrants who are in

favour of this protest movement in the middle class, people who do like migrants and don't like this protest movement, the people who are rioting draghi is there and talking to them. but there and talking to them. but the people, the people who are the people, the people who are the people, the people who are the people who are out in the country rioting and burning down police stations and surrounding mosques are being wholly rejected wherever they rear their ugly heads. so in southport, it wasn't the case that this was sort of local community members, local working class people who were really annoyed, really frustrated, and so demonstrated outside mosques. what it was is a group of outsiders, organised people, members of the far right who decided to go and target a mosque even though , you know, mosque even though, you know, the attacker of this tragic, tragic incident on monday was not muslim. and so i think suggesting this is just some sort of organic uprising of the british people is fundamentally mistaken. this is a small minority of people who the vast, vast majority of the british public, of all ethnicities, of all classes, thoroughly reject alleged attacker. >> by the way, somebody has been charged with this crime, but obviously it hasn't gone to

court yet. raqib. same question to you. what do you make of what you saw in sunderland and what potentially we could witness in belfast this afternoon ? belfast this afternoon? >> well, i don't understand, how the destruction of a police office or a citizen's advice bureau office, how that helps matters at all. i think that much of what we've seen, not just in sunderland, but also the southport riots themselves, i think it's besmirched the memory of those poor little girls who were brutally murdered . and i were brutally murdered. and i think that more generally , i think that more generally, i think that more generally, i think that more generally, i think that when you look at the reaction to the southport riots, where a local mosque was attacked and the local mosque was also attacked in sunderland, i think that we have to be very honest here now, i've talked a great deal about the term far right being overused, being drained of significance, but some of the disinformation that we saw on social media platforms such as x that fell in decidedly far right territory , ultimately far right territory, ultimately making this a totally unfounded view that the suspect was a muslim illegal migrant had come into the uk from a small boy in france as we know, which was quite a rush, which was

absolutely remarkable , i think absolutely remarkable, i think one point i slightly disagree with michael is that among those arrested in the aftermath of the southport riots, there were a few locals in there who have been arrested . but he's also been arrested. but he's also right in that there are out of town troublemakers that certainly contribute towards the disorders. i mean, i've heard some people say, oh, it was all locals, saint helens, for example. it might be in merseyside, but it's not local to southport. so you can say they're out of town. troublemakers and i suspect that when we looked at the sunderland disorders last night, i'd say that a good number there were probably not locals but probably came from outside of sunderland. michael, why do you think tensions are so high at the moment? >> well, again, i don't think we should overstate the case here. i think a very small number of people are rather extreme, politically motivated people are causing trouble on our streets, and i think it's quite worrying. >> it was a mistaken it was enough for the prime minister to call the chief of police to a meeting. i mean , if they're meeting. i mean, if they're worried about it. >> so there's two different

things. >> there's two different ways of looking at it, isn't there? this is so i think some people with a political agenda are trying to suggest the explosion of these riots suggests there is some big fundamental underlying problem in britain. and this is the organic expression of that. and therefore we have to have these big conversations about whether or not migrants are integrating properly. now, i think we have to be quite clear about what's happening here. it's a few hundred people who are far right activists who have taken a tragic incident and are exploiting it to burn things down. and the vast, vast, vast majority of the population do not like them. right. and do not want to be involved. so i think keir starmer's sort of approach, which is to say these people are thugs and we need the police to clamp down on them hard is essentially the correct one, >> you were a bit wary about the language that the prime minister used when he was talking about this situation. can you explain a bit more? >> well, i think that the prime minister is absolutely right to call out elements of the protest, which clearly falls into the territory of far right thuggery. i think he was

absolutely right to condemn that. i think that where my concern is, and i'd be interested to hear michael's thoughts on this, is whether there's any differences in how there's any differences in how the labour government has reacted to different kinds of pubuc reacted to different kinds of public disorder. so the language from the home secretary, yvette coopen from the home secretary, yvette cooper, for example, in the aftermath of the southport riots, very robust condemnation , riots, very robust condemnation, and rightfully so. but then her reaction to the harehills disorders, for example, where police officers were attacked, pelted with missiles, police cars flipped, a double decker bus was set ablaze. i did think she struck more of a conciliatory tone. and now that might have been the fact that the disorders took place after children were removed from a romani family. but i think that what i would say is that the government has to be very careful in terms of how it reacts to different kinds of disorders, so it doesn't leave itself open to accusations of two tier governance. >> what do you make of that, michael? >> well, i mean, i don't have the words that are yvette cooper used after the harehills riots in front of me, but as far as i understand, the government were pretty tough that the people who engagedin pretty tough that the people who engaged in this should be arrested and should face the full force of the law. now obviously there wasn't a sort of

press conference at downing street, as there has been this week with keir starmer . but i do week with keir starmer. but i do think the harehills incident and what we've seen this week are different in the extent that what we're seeing this week is clearly politically organised, and that's why we're seeing it p0p up and that's why we're seeing it pop up everywhere. and also, i do think the fact of targeting a place of worship purely because of the ethnicity and the religion of the people there, does give this a more sinister character than what happened in harehills. obviously, what happenedin harehills. obviously, what happened in harehills was, was, was, was wrong, right. but that did seem more like a spontaneous expression of anger, obviously sort of expressed in a terrible way. but what we're seeing now does seem more like an organised movement which is spreading and which is threatening an entire ethnic minority in this country. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> no, absolutely. but i think that the point is that even if you looked at harehills, and i also think another incident that hasn't been managed particularly well by the government is that manchester airport incident, which i think we saw a police absolutely stomp . and you had absolutely stomp. and you had later footage which showed that the police was actually police

officers were violently assaulted. several police officers hospitalised, one being a female police officer left with a broken nose. so i completely get michael's point. but i would also argue that at harehills, you'd still say that some of those acts would fall into the category of violent thuggery. so i think so. i think that if you look at the interviews and i tried to be very fair, the government is under a lot of pressure. there's no two ways about that. yvette cooper she struck a softer, more conciliatory tone in the interviews connected to harehills. then, when it came to the interviews, when it came to southport and the disorders, following from that in other parts of the country, she struck a more aggressive and more assertive tone. now for me, i quite like the fact that he's quite like the fact that he's quite an assertive tone, but i think that it needs to be more across the board. otherwise it does leave the government somewhat open to the accusation that it reacts differently depending on the ethnic, racial and religious background of perpetrators of two tier policing. >> now, there is a story in one of the papers today. i believe it's the times , michael that it's the times, michael that says two tier policing is a

myth. would you agree with that is a myth, >> i think it's overstated. >> i think it's overstated. >> and i mean, i think it's interesting, you know, because i come on this channel a fair amount and sort of the way that the palestine demonstrations were talked about constantly called anti—semitic or racist, for example, did you ever see pro—palestine protesters gather around a synagogue to try and threaten jewish people inside? no. right. because that was a political cause, incredibly peaceful. they never burned anything down either. there was anything down either. there was a huge moral panic. we had a former home secretary when she was home secretary at the time called them hate marches. right. and that was a movement which involved hundreds of thousands of people. you didn't see anything like this. >> i do think it's important to say that the reason the government are clamping down hard on this is because it is quite different. what we see just on those on those marches , just on those on those marches, there were synagogues attacks and brixworth there weren't synagogues attack. there was there were bricks thrown through a synagogue. >> i'm not sure that's true in golders green from memory. that's what i don't i don't think i was sure about that. i don't think that happened.

>> no. i think one thing we can say there was and michael agree with me, there was some anti—semitic chanting at some of the protests. that's not to say that the entire protest is anti—jewish in nature. and there was displaying of pro terror paraphernalia, especially in the earlier protests where i felt like the police could have intervened more robustly, especially at the earlier demonstrations. but i also agree with michael that i think that the home secretary at the time, suella braverman, talking about these are hate marches. these need to be clamped down on considering we have an instinctively pro—israel political establishment, the idea that you would undermine the rights and freedom to protest in that particular context. i don't think that would have been an ideal at all, in my opinion. >> okay. right. gentlemen, thank you very much. very robust, robust debate going on there. we have to move on. we're running out of time. unfortunately, for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, please do go to our website, which is gb news.com. now if you want some good news. you do. of course you do, imagine having £30,000 extra in your bank to play with this yeah your bank to play with this year. holiday of a lifetime. well, it could be yours . in year. holiday of a lifetime. well, it could be yours. in our

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whoo! blimey, welcome back to the weekend with me. dawn neesom. now, tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that

integration is working. the shadow minister says we are just pretending that everything is fine. and it's a few bad apples , fine. and it's a few bad apples, which are sometimes the case. but if you have to, if you want to have a successful multiracial country, you need to make an effort to do that. okay, well, this is an interview that kemi has given in the telegraph today, and lots of you are saying you read it and you think she's talking a lot of sense. rikki neave. i'm going to come to you first on this one, kemi, i'm paraphrasing slightly here. he's saying that basically people out there are feeling like they are being ignored by the westminster bubble. they're not being listened to over their concerns about immigration, health care, education in their area. and if they dare raise any concerns, certainly on the immigration front, they are portrayed as being racists. what do you make about kemi's words today? >> well, i think that compared to other western european societies, we're a relatively well integrated society, certainly more so than france ,

certainly more so than france, where france has this sort of model of secular republican universalism. that's actually very difficult to integrate socially conservative, non—white minorities into that model. and also they say that we have this colour—blind egalitarianism, but actually what that means is that quite often very real forms of racial and religious discrimination go ignored , in discrimination go ignored, in much of france. so i think that we can take some pride in the fact that we're in a better position. but that doesn't mean that improvements can't be made , that improvements can't be made, that improvements can't be made, that there are certain parts of the country where there are very intense forms of racial and religious segregation, that's certainly the case in the spring of in a string of post—industrial northern english towns, for sure . i'd think about towns, for sure. i'd think about blackburn in lancashire, for example, dewsbury in west yorkshire. but i think we also have to talk about integration. i don't really like the term assimilation, to be honest anyway, because i think that makes a demand that you should just shed all aspects of your heritage, which i don't think is right, but we'll be asking people to integrate into. i

think that's a question, and i think that's a question, and i think that's a question, and i think that in a sense that we've lost our own way in terms of what it actually means to be british in a sense. now, an interesting point. i think so. and i think that if you're talking about integrating more socially conservative minorities, if you look at the sort of rates of family breakdown, that sort of loss of community spirit, the sort of rise in materialistic individualism , disconnection individualism, disconnection across the generations, loneliness among the elderly, for example, you know, it's a big problem. and those aren't necessarily qualities in the mainstream that make it very attractive. for more socially conservative migrants to integrate into. and i think that's an important part of the conversation. >> what does it mean to be british by the way? >> well, i think that because people often come up with the joke about, oh, you need to go morris dancing, i mean, what doesit morris dancing, i mean, what does it actually mean to be british these days? >> well, i think that there has i think one thing for me, which is very important is having a solid understanding of british heritage , history and traditions. >> and that's not to say that we should adopt an uncritical view of british history . absolutely

of british history. absolutely not. but there's also elements of british history that i'm very proud of, even from an anti—racist, working class perspective. for example, the 1862 manchester mill workers refusing to work with american origin slave picked cotton, then you had the battle of bamber bridge in world war two, where engush bridge in world war two, where english pub landlords in lancashire in lancashire said no, sorry to american commanders, no , we don't have a commanders, no, we don't have a colour bar here. so i think that those kind of things would be worth promoting for sure from a history. >> i'm just going to read a little bit of what came out, she said. kemi is in this interview saying you look at all the tension that we've been seeing in the country over the last few days in southport and hartlepool, and everybody is quiet. they don't want to upset the cultural establishment that wants to present that nothing is going on. kemi quite clearly thinks there is something going on. there is an underlying problem in this country. many, many viewers who are getting in touch agree with her on this. what do you say to that, michael, >> well, i basically agree with everything raqib just said. my concern with kemi is that what

she's doing is connecting what could be a useful conversation to have with people who i think are extreme , unrepresentative are extreme, unrepresentative group of violent thugs , essentially. >> so i think for kemi to say we need to talk about integration because some people threw a brick at a mosque , is coming at brick at a mosque, is coming at this the wrong way round . on the this the wrong way round. on the general multiculturalism question. i mean, i one, i maybe i'm biased on this one because i've come from a very multicultural place . my school multicultural place. my school was very, very multicultural, you know, sort of a third black, third muslim, third white, lots of turkish people as well. and it was fantastic. you know, we sung christmas songs, we sung diwali songs, we sang eid songs. it was all very harmonious. i now live in hackney, which again is incredibly multicultural and all works pretty well. you know, you have afro—caribbean carnivals, you also have people out with flags watching the football, big england flags, whatever . so football, big england flags, whatever. so i'm multiculturalism has worked well for me and it's worked well in the areas i have. there are some

people i do understand. >> michael, sorry for interrupting that. yeah. because you live in london, as do i, and as did the previous panellists. we live in east london. it has been like that for many, many years, but there are lots of people that don't live in areas that are as integrated, where the communities do get on together and people will point out that that this is where you're getting the tensions again, it's that london centric westminster or east london bubble that, you know, we're not listening to the people that don't live in areas like we live. yeah. >> so i suppose what i was going to say next is that i think my life has proven to me that multiculturalism can work. that doesn't mean it is working everywhere. yeah. so i'm very open to the idea that there are some parts of the country where you don't have people with experiences like mine, but in fact, the two different groups or different groups go to different schools and they aren't doing the same thing and singing the same songs and going to the same street parties. so i think a conversation about integration and how we can make multiculturalism actually work everywhere is welcome. i'm not sure about the framing, sort of connecting it with what we've seen over the past week. >> do you think she's wrong to

connect? i mean, that's a quote. i mean, you know, we have seen what's, you know, the tension, in the last few days in southport and hartlepool, she said, we're not talking about that. we need to talk about it. >> well, those are two predominantly white british areas, two parts of the country, if you wanted to talk about integration, express your concerns over integration. i'd refer to places like blackburn and dewsbury where you have communities there. they live side by side with at times very limited social interaction. and i think the issue is, is when there's a lack of social interaction, there is that perception that you have you breed that suspicion of the unknown in a sense, and that can be very damaging from a social cohesion perspective. and but i just think that we can talk about islamist extremism , and i about islamist extremism, and i don't think we need to use, far right thugs chucking bricks at a mosque to, you know, as a catalyst to discuss that. we've been discussing i've been discussing that for years, to be honest. >> you have indeed, and very eloquently as well. can i just can i get round to this? lots of

people on here saying, look, you know, i'm not out rioting. i know, i'm not out rioting. i know i'm just very quickly running out of time. i'm not out writing. but what kemi is saying and i'm worried about immigration, does that make me far right? michael, what would you say to those people that are saying, why am i being tarred as far right? >> well, i'm not tarring them. >> well, i'm not tarring them. >> i'm not saying you personally are. >> okay, well, i'm not sure who people feel like they are. >> well, i think if people feel like they are, that's a shame. >> i think people should be entitled to have concerns about immigration and concerns about integration without being deemed far right, but i mean , i suppose far right, but i mean, i suppose ihope far right, but i mean, i suppose i hope that that person emailing would put a big dividing line between themselves and someone throwing a brick. >> many of them are pensioners. they're certainly not out chucking bricks. >> so i don't think people with those concerns should be deemed far right. but i think the people throwing bricks at mosques should be, you know, interesting, right? >> well, let's know what you think. i'm dawn neesom sukh gb news. and there is loads more to come on today's show. but first it's like it's time for a bit of ray, isn't it? with those news headunes.

headlines. >> ratio 1:33. top stories northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night . videos posted online night. videos posted online showed a former police office ablaze while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with police throwing rocks and bottles. five officers were injured , four had officers were injured, four had to be hospitalised and ten people were arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary. the uk's most senior police and crime commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration following rioting and civil unrest. donna jones is calling for sir keir starmer to address protesters concerns as the country faces more than 30 demonstrations this weekend alone. she said the announcement of the pm's new violent crime unit has led to an accusation of

two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters . the 17 year inflamed protesters. the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert. then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis back in 2018 and telling viewers how best to raise money. a spokesperson for bbc children in need said they'd removed the video out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. two men have appeared in court charged in connection with an alleged arson attack on ukrainian linked businesses in london. 22 year old jakeem barrington rose of croydon and 19 year old eugenius asahina of wandsworth have been charged with aggravated arson. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. met police believe the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group . behalf of russia's wagner group. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct

to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray. now remember you've heard what my brilliant panellists think on this . what do you think? so much this. what do you think? so much to say on these stories. we're discussing today. have your say by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join in our conversation. and you're really not going to want to miss this coming up later tonight. we are speaking exclusively to the son of donald trump. that's eric trump, who has just weeks after his father was almost assassinated. remember that's this evening from 9 pm. and you really don't want to miss it. it's going to be a cracking interview. and there's loads more coming up on today's show. before that , even today's show. before that, even olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them

from injuries amid the gender boxing round. it goes on. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom. this is the weekend andifs dawn neesom. this is the weekend and it's gb news, britain's news channel. don't go

welcome back to the weekend with me dawn neesom now yes, we are going to talk about boxing again. the international boxing association will award italian boxer angela carini the prize money she would have won if she'd become olympic champion . she'd become olympic champion. carini has been in the spotlight after abandoning, tearfully abandoning her fight against controversial algerian boxer imane khelif. the athlete at the centre of a gender illegibility storm. i think storm is putting it mildly, given some of the debate we've seen on social media. well, we're not doing it

on social media. we're doing it live on your telly. and i have michael walker and rakhim the seine to talk me through this one. gentlemen, i'm going to give you a choice on this one, because i don't even know who wants to go first on this one. >> go on then, sean. >> go on then, sean. >> michael. >> michael. >> right. i wasn't going to nominate myself. it's like he was nominating me. i shall i shall take this on. so in terms of the question of should gender tests be introduced quite plausibly, i don't know. i'm not an expert on these things. i don't think we should have people with male advantage fighting people who are females in the female categories. we have protected categories for a reason. what i do feel more confident about is that the way eamonn khalife has been treated, especially online, is quite horrible. i think, she, in this competition has complied with the rules. she has been allowed to fight and now she is fighting and i think if you've got an issue with what's going on, take it up with the ioc. do not take it up with the ioc. do not take it up with boxers who have followed all the rules, have met

the eligibility criteria. as the ioc have said, so that's what i'd say. focus on the rules, not the people. let's depersonalise this a little bit. >> yeah, this is social media. and of course that genie is out of the bottle. unfortunately raqeeb, i mean, the problem with boxing is it's so many governing bodies, so many different belts at every levels. you know, it's like it's a very confusing sport. so the problem we've got here is we've got one governing body, the iba, saying these two boxers, the other boxer is lin yu ting, who i believe fought yesterday , have both tested to yesterday, have both tested to have x, y or male chromosomes and therefore are banned from fighting in the women's category. meanwhile, the ioc in charge of the olympic boxing are saying they were born female. they have female on their passport. therefore we are okay with them fighting women . it is with them fighting women. it is a mess. it's very confusing . a mess. it's very confusing. boxing are regulation is confusing. in general. so what?

what do you make of where we are now ? and the reason we're now? and the reason we're discussing it again today is iman is due to fight again today against hungarian anna luca hamari. >> well, this should have been sorted out well before the commencement of the paris olympics. and i think it really shows how fragmented governance is in boxing. more generally now. imane khelif to my understanding, she's, undergone, sex related testing, and through that testing, it was decided that testing, it was decided that she could by one authority that she could by one authority that she could by one authority that she can't actually compete in female boxing competitions . in female boxing competitions. now, we have this problem here, where she is competing in the women's boxing competition at the paris olympics. but i think what this really shows you need a joined up approach to regulation in boxing. this should have been sorted out a long time ago, well before the paris olympics started. but i think the fact that you have another boxing association award floating the possibility of

providing, angela carini, the italian boxer who fought against simon khalife, that's an admission that something might not have gone quite right. so i think it's all an almighty mess, and it needs to be avoided in the future because i think the. >> so there's a there's an all out war. i think, between the international boxing association and the international olympic committee, because the ioc excluded the iba because they had concerns about their governance. so the fact that the iba is now sort of running into this and saying, we'll award her the prize money to me, that probably seems a little bit cynical, but at the same time, i do think people's concerns over this are perfectly legitimate, but that it shouldn't be taken out on this competitor who, to my mind, hasn't done anything wrong , wrong, >> now, we don't know, for sure, but because the iba say they can't release the medical tests, but the thinking or is that both of these fighters are dsd, which is differences in sexual development, which which which

leads to, it's a very rare condition involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs. but both of them, from what we know, have have tested for x, y chromosomes, which makes them men so. well, it's well, i suppose it makes them men because they might still have the genitalia of a woman. >> so sort of when we have these discussions, often people say, oh, how can possibly a woman have a penis or a man have a cervix if we're calling them men, they probably also have cervixes. so i'm just saying it's complicated. it is complicated. >> that's what i'm saying. it is a very rare group of conditions. but they they are. >> and i'll make this point the differences in sex development here, i think we would be correct in saying it does provide them to a degree with a biological advantage when competing against other when competing against other when competing with females. >> so in the boxing fighting, in my view, the two boxes that we're referring to, they shouldn't be in the female boxing competition at the olympics. i would probably be consistent. yeah probably. >> i think this should be dealt with sort of. i think the rule

should have been sorted out earlier. of course. essentially i do. so i have been sort of reading about sex development sort of disorders. yeah. so apparently it can be the case that you are born with xy chromosomes and don't get male advantage because one of the reasons of you have this sex, one of the reasons you end up intersex is because you have the xy chromosomes, but your body can't really process the testosterone. this is not me pretending to be a doctor who knows about this. this is me saying, this is complicated, and we might have to leave it to the medical experts, but, i mean, it's. >> so you're not sure whether they should be fighting women or not. it may be down to the individual. >> i think people with who benefit from sort of male advantages shouldn't be fighting women. >> no , i don't feel qualified to >> no, i don't feel qualified to say whether or not these people do. >> perfect. thank you very much, michael and ricky. thank you very much . as i said, huge very much. as i said, huge debate, very big debate, and lots of opinions coming in on that. so thank you so much for being so honest and robust today, now we are running out of time as usual. we have to move on. i'm dawn neesom. this is the weekend on gb news and there's loads more coming up on today's

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oh welcome back to the weekend with me dawn neesom hope you're having a fantastic saturday afternoon out there. now, a bit of light relief with the royals , of light relief with the royals, shall we? the duke and duchess of sussex have announced a tour to colombia at the invitation of vice president francia marquez. prince harry and meghan markle are expected to highlight the threat posed to children by the internet. why they have to go to colombia to do that? i'm not entirely sure. however, this is literally within a week of saying that they harry saying he

can't come to london. he doesn't feel it's safe to bring his wife meghan to london because, you know, he fears for her personal safety. and colombia to my reckoning, is one of those countries where the government advise you not to even go in. okay. joining me now is royal broadcaster and commentator rafe heydel—mankoo to explain what's going on here. rafe. hello. lovely to see you. >> hello lovely. >> hello lovely. >> as always, a bit of comic relief here. yes, you're quite right, you know, literally just days after prince harry declared that he couldn't bring his wife to britain because of the potential risk of an acid attack or knife attack, they've now announced that they're going to go to colombia, one of the world's ten most dangerous countries. right? a nation riven with political assassinations, with political assassinations, with murder , with kidnappings with murder, with kidnappings and gun crime. i mean, the hypocrisy is mind boggling. and it just comes a few months after they went on another trip to nigeria, another world leader in murder and political kidnappings. now, look, no one is saying that they're going to be putting themselves into

harm's way. they're going there at the invitation of this radically left wing government. and of course, we've had successful royal tours of colombia in the past. just last year , sophie, duchess of year, sophie, duchess of edinburgh, went to colombia ten years ago. our current king and queen also had a successful trip to colombia, but that's rather the point . if members of the the point. if members of the royal family are able to go to the world's most dangerous nations, the idea that they can't come to the uk because it's too dangerous is simply absurd. you know? i mean, they have 27. the murder rate in colombia is 27 per 100,000. in the uk it's only 0.9%. >> it doesn't seem a good comparison. did harry not consider the optics of this one? >> well, i think actually harry is making mischief here. i think prince harry is trying to embarrass is using this excuse, i would say, to try to embarrass his father's government and hopefully try to apply pressure to have the decision not to grant automatic royal protection to his family reversed. and i think we can all clearly see

what the even bigger issue is here. and it's simply that meghan's primary concern is her image and her reputation. and she sees the britain and the and the british tabloid press as a direct threat to that. her popularity rating in this country is at rock bottom, and i think she is quite genuinely petrified of the response. the reception she'll get here and the mischief that could be made out of that by by the press itself. so i think it's a combination of those factors. >> so to be fair to meghan and harry, i mean, they are going there for a conference, aren't they? which is talking about in particular the mental health of children and the dangers of the internet. so they do have a legitimate reason for going rather than just making mischief. >> oh yeah. no, no, the mischief is about saying that they can't come to the uk because, as i said, there have been royal visits before, but the very fact that they're able to go to such a dangerous country, of course they're going to the safest parts of that country puts, i think, you know, puts a lie to the argument that britain is far too dangerous for them to go to as you say, they are going there

for this ministerial conference that's going to be taking place. there's an interview with harry and meghan taking place with prince harry going out tomorrow on america's cbs. will they be talking about this further ? but talking about this further? but the idea that britain blighty is somehow more dangerous than the most dangerous places in the world is for the birds. >> windsor or columbia? well, i know which one i'll be choosing. rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you very much for joining rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you very much forjoining us rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. well, i'm dawn neesom, this is gb news it's the weekend and there's loads more coming up. but you want to know what the weather is doing don't you.so what the weather is doing don't you. so here's greg with all the details for you . details for you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it starts to turn more unsettled over the next few days, particularly across the north—west of the uk, with some heavy rain in the forecast, particularly by monday. but for now we do have

weather fronts across the engush weather fronts across the english channel giving some outbreaks of rain here. england and wales generally dry with some sunny spells. early rain clearing but a scattering of showers for northern ireland and scotland as we end the day . but scotland as we end the day. but generally overnight, it turns dner generally overnight, it turns drier for a time, but then thicker cloud will bring patchy rain in across northern ireland. western parts of scotland generally stays dry across england and wales for everyone. temperatures staying in double figures but lower than recent nights, so a little more comfortable for sleeping. so a mixed start to sunday. a lot of cloud across the uk. if we take a look at scotland first thing in the morning, you can see outbreaks of rain across western areas a bit brighter across parts of aberdeenshire. some sunny spells here, the rain extending into parts of northern ireland, western parts of northern england too, but generally light and patchy. some bright skies down the east coast of england, and then some hazy, sunny spells across parts of england and wales. but the cloud thick enough even across parts of wales, over the high ground for 1 or 2 splashes of rain as we move through the day, we'll

continue to see outbreaks of rain pushing into northern ireland, northwestern parts of scotland , some heavier bursts scotland, some heavier bursts possible at times. a few showers developing across the rest of scotland into northern england , scotland into northern england, perhaps wales later as well. the best of any brightness holding on across east and southeast england. here temperatures rising to around 23 or 24 celsius for most, nearer to average, though feeling cooler than recent days. highs around 18 degrees as we go into the evening time. some heavier rain developing across parts of northern ireland into western parts of scotland, which will continue through into monday as well. met office warning in force for here that heavy rain followed by showers as we head into tuesday and wednesday. temperatures starting to come down to that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> thank you very much, greg lester. the temperatures coming down though, my love. there's lots more coming up on today's show. another night of serious

violence on the streets as protesters attack a police officer, a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland. all of that and much more to come. this is news, britain's news channel, and you're watching the weekend with

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them from injuries amid the gender boxing row, which goes on and on, i'm dawn neesom and this isindeed and on, i'm dawn neesom and this is indeed the weekend . is indeed the weekend. and we have got a cracking last hour for you with a brilliant, brilliant panel. i have to say, they're all being very naughty, but this show is actually not about them. it's about you. and it's nothing without you and your views . so let me know your your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today. really simple. visit gbnews.com forward slash your say and join our conversation . slight introduce conversation. slight introduce them then shall i introduce them? do you want to know who they are? these two very. i don't know what i've done to deserve this, to be honest with you, keeping me company this houris you, keeping me company this hour is former labour mp stephen pound and former conservative special adviser charlie rowley. thank you very much for joining me, both looking incredibly

dappen me, both looking incredibly dapper. and i have to say, in particular stephen loving the blue very , very goes with your blue very, very goes with your eyes. >> it is not particularly indicative of anything. >> no, no, no, it's just very summery, but before we get stuck into the stories we are talking about with these two, let's go to the equally dapper ray anderson who's got your news headunes anderson who's got your news headlines for you . headlines for you. >> thanks, dawn. 2:01. top stories northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night. videos posted online showed a former police office ablaze, while a mosque was also targeted . vehicles were targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with officers throwing rocks and bottles. five police officers were injured, with four hospitalised and ten people arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary. chief superintendent mark hall issued this warning to rioters make no mistake, if you

were involved last night, expect to be met with the full force of the law . the law. >> i want to make it absolutely clear that the disorder, violence and damage which has occurred will not be tolerated . occurred will not be tolerated. >> the uk's most senior police and crime commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration following rioting and civil unrest . donna jones is and civil unrest. donna jones is calling for sir keir starmer to address protesters concerns as the country faces more than 30 demonstrations this weekend alone. she said the announcement of the pm's new violent crime units has led to an accusation of two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters . the 17 year inflamed protesters. the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert. then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis back in 2018, telling viewers how best to

raise money. it's understood the teenager was found for the video through a casting agency . a through a casting agency. a spokesperson for bbc children in need said they had removed the video now out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. two men have appeared in court charged in connection with an alleged arson attack on ukrainian linked businesses in london. 22 year old shakeem barrington rose of croydon and 19 year old eugenius. excuse me , 19 year old eugenius. excuse me, as meena of wandsworth, have both been charged with aggravated arson following the counter terrorism investigation. rose also charged with possession of an offensive weapon, two counts of that the met police believe the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group. police have launched a murder investigation following a fatal stabbing in norwich. officers were called to paragon place last night where a man was pronounced dead at the scene. norfolk constabulary believe it's an isolated incident with no wider risk to the public.

they're appealing, though, to anyone who may have witnessed the incident to get in touch , the incident to get in touch, and donald trump has agreed to debate vp kamala harris. he's accepted an offer from fox news for a televised face off on september 4th. not yet known, though, if the presumptive democratic nominee will agree to take part. although she has previously said that she is ready for such a challenge. trump says the debate will feature a full arena audience. are all more coach spokesperson for republicans overseas told us trump's annoyed and he's calling the shots. >> he agreed to do two debates with president biden, but unfortunately, president biden didn't have the ability to go the length, the full length of the length, the full length of the distance. and he donald trump feels a little bit cheated that he spent all of this money and campaigning against somebody who is obviously a zombie candidate in addition to that, he's got a current litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc, and so he no longer feels that since the terms have changed, that he should have to do the debate there. and it looks like as of this morning, per his own messages on truth

social, that there will be a debate. it will be in pennsylvania, and it will be two days before early voting starts. >> those are the latest gb news headunes >> those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm ray addison moore. in around half an hours addison moore. in around half an hour's time for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, ray and crazy rabbit. hi. crazy. if i can call you that. thanks very much for watching. are you keep asking for our comments, but you never read any out. well, i've just read yours out. i'm trying to get through as many as i can, i really am, but there are so many coming in and we've got such a packed show for you. but keep them coming in. i will get into them. right. let's get straight into today's story, shall we? now, another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police office, set a car on fire and

surround a mosque in sunderland. the demonstration in sunderland, as i said, was one of more than as i said, was one of more than a dozen that had been planned across the country this weekend. that's as the prime minister warned protesters they would face the full force of the law in a bid to crack down on the violence. this all comes after the horrific murder of three girls during a stabbing in southport. joining me now is our gb news reporter, adam cherry, who i believe is in london, where we are expecting several protests march this afternoon. adam, can you bring us up to speed on what's happening where you are, please ? you are, please? >> well, at the moment it's the palestinian solidarity campaign that's marching through central london. they will finish at downing street and they have been to told disperse by 430. now, of course, whether they adhere to those section 12 and section 14 notices is another matter. there's a counter protest which has been confined to a smaller section of central

london as well. again, the question remains whether those two collide and whether those section 12 and 14 notices are ignored . now, the a lot of ignored. now, the a lot of questions for the prime minister here. how is he going to deal with this is his rhetoric going to be met with action? and of course, the times newspaper is now reporting that he may be going on holiday next week . and going on holiday next week. and don't don't forget the house of commons is already in recess and has been since tuesday. so the question is, will they be recalled early? in fact, priti patel, who's now a tory leadership hopeful, has called for parliament to return to debate this in the next few days. and as i say , it's a very days. and as i say, it's a very contentious, delicate tightrope to walk . to walk. >> okay. thank you very much. adam cherry, who will be bringing us up to speed on what's happening in london as we go through the afternoon. thank you very much. and i think it's a very interesting point, isn't it? our you know, we've heard

from the government saying , oh, from the government saying, oh, you know, we, we, we will not we will not put up with this. we will not put up with this. we will sort of like more police on the streets, you know, prison cells are ready for you. and it's like, well, how we don't actually have enough police officers and our prisons are fit to bursting already, and our politicians are all on recess. yay! good luck everybody, joining me now is gb news reporter anna riley to bring us up to speed, where she is . anna, up to speed, where she is. anna, can you actually bring us up to date? what's happening where you are, please ? are, please? >> yes, dawn, we're here in liverpool at pier head, where a protest has begun. i'm just going to step out of frame for you, just so you can see behind us. >> us. >> oh, right . okay. >> oh, right. okay. unfortunately, we have lost anna. we've got her back now. yeah, anna, we've got you back. >> oh, you can still hear me, can you? we can. yeah so i was just explaining there, as you can see, the. yeah the edward the seventh statue behind us, that's where there's been a

large congregation of people. i'd say around 100. so, so far we can hear them chanting. they've got signs. some of the signs read, stop murdering our children. and you can just hear them chanting . now, i'd say them chanting. now, i'd say around 100 people. it's been largely peaceful. so far, but police are on alert. we saw them earlier. they do have gear on them. they have helmets just in case anything does intensify. but that's the scene at the moment here in liverpool. we know so far in blackpool and in manchester there's been dispersal orders put in place for the protests going on there, with around 30 protests planned across this weekend. >> anna, thank you very much. that's anna reilly in liverpool at the protest there. and anna will be staying with us throughout the show to bring us up to date on anything that that does happen. but so far, thankfully, seemingly very peaceful, which is exactly what

we hope it will stay right now. let's see what my wonderful panel make of this, i have stephen pound and charlie rowley with me, and these two usually get rather frisky. i think it's fair to say, now this mrs. we see what i mean . we saw we saw see what i mean. we saw we saw some horrible scenes last night in sunderland, didn't we, with, it was a riot and there's no beat about the bush. it was, you know, people torching buildings and cars, etc. we saw it in harehills in leeds beforehand, didn't we, stephen, what do you make of what you saw last night and what is potentially a threat happening over the weekend? >> look, i think that kemi badenoch is actually wrong to try to do a read across between sort of integration and community cohesion and these riots. >> i think there is a factor about immigration and integration in this country , integration in this country, which, you know, would be stupid not to talk about, but that is not to talk about, but that is no direct read across. certainly equally, there is nothing from southport to sunderland. >> there is no particular connection. >> we were talking more about kemi's reaction to it and her

interview later on, but what do you make of the fact that it did kick off so much in sunderland when i spent years and years in belfast interviewing people who had been rioting in the streets, because it's part of my job, and we had an expression which was called recreational rioting. >> there are a number of people, and i can remember sitting as close as i am to people say it's exciting. >> it's really exciting, you know? >> and i say, you know, for god's sake, you're causing millions of pounds worth of damage. >> police officers are being beaten to within an inch of their life. >> places have been put on fire and you see this as recreation. >> there are some people, sadly , >> there are some people, sadly, and what the police used to say there, what we're really waiting for the person we really want to see on the streets is pc thunderstorm because it's the rain will be the real helper here at the moment. >> we've got a long, hot summer, and i think the fact that we don't actually read the riot act anymore needs to be a time when anymore needs to be a time when a magistrate would actually stand on the town hall steps and read the riot, which meant that if you didn't, you know , wind if you didn't, you know, wind your neck back in the army would be called out. >> what's that? the prime minister, who i very much doubt will be going on holiday next

week, has, in effect read the riot act. but let's say there are underlying causes of dissatisfaction which we can talk about. and there are issues in southport which we can talk about. but to say that sunderland is the result of something dreadful happening to a town, a city that is 99% white anyway, is, for me is risible. >> why do you think, charlie there is this undercurrent of unrest in this country at the moment. i mean, we have got other marches planned around the country today . demonstrations. country today. demonstrations. and people do seem angry. >> they do. >> they do. >> and i need to say we'll talk about the kemi intervention later on. >> but i do think there is crossover there. >> and i think ultimately, look, there is a fake news that came out of the events in southport , out of the events in southport, which prompted a lot of people to congregate around the local mosque to do what they did in southport, which is totally, totally unacceptable. and the police have been put in a very, very difficult situation. you know, the police don't get it right all the time, but when they are and you see those images, when they are literally bodies on the front line defending a community that's

gone through absolute hell against the violence and the thuggery that we've seen , thuggery that we've seen, there's no justification for that. but there is a tension in this country, and there has to be a conversation about integration. there has to be a conversation about how do we how do we live collectively as a society. but the tensions that there are out there, because you've seen week after weekend, perhaps protests taking place, perhaps protests taking place, perhaps pro—palestinian protests that take place where you hear a lot of hate speech that comes from those protests where you think the police might have been a bit soft intervening in some of these people. with those people, you can be absolutely pro—palestine. of course you can. of course you can protest in this country. but when you see, you know, the united kingdom being brought to a standstill , effectively weekend standstill, effectively weekend after weekend by a particular section of society that is going to cause pushback. >> and now you are seeing a lot of people who perhaps are on a far right scale. there are lots of people who are not far right taking part in these protests by the way, but those that engage in the violence and the thuggery that we do see against the

police do tend to be of that nature. >> but they are articulating in entirely the wrong way the tensions that i've just outlined by sections of society being able to protest weekend after weekend, bring the country to a standstill. and this is part of the reaction . the reaction. >> do you think charlie's got a point here, stephen? i mean, we saw you know, after the initial, riots kicking off, we saw keir starmer call police chiefs from around the country to that meeting at number 10 downing street, and that was after the riots that he has described as far right, lots of people on on here are saying, well, i, you know , i'm angry. i'm not far know, i'm angry. i'm not far right, i'm not out rioting, but why am i being described as far right and lumped into all this? do you think there is a situation of two tier policing in this country? many people are saying there is. it's like, you know, how come you saw the harehills riot where the same things happened, but there was no keir starmer emergency meeting? >> i was going to actually come back to that. you quite rightly referenced harehills, which is

actually to do with roma and romanian families in leeds, where a child was being taken into care because there was a risk that the child was going to, or two children were going to, or two children were going to be taken out of the country, that was a completely different issue. and i don't think that there's actually a great deal of connectivity there. but i think what's happening today, what's happening in sunderland, what's happening in sunderland, what's happening in sunderland, what's happening in south wales, actually demeans and insults the parents of those children, of course, who were killed. no, of course. and i think there's a significant point there. but to actually then say everybody who's on the street is somehow a neo nazi, swastika toting fascist, it's equally demeaning and insulting. and i'm sorry, we actually need to be serious , actually need to be serious, sensible and grown up about this. the rule of law has to apply this. the rule of law has to apply to everybody, everywhere we see. we just have to look over the channel to france to see what happens. if you have the ultimate divided community where you have the outside, you know, the in the peripheral areas of paris, the banlieue, where you have no other language being spoken other than maybe arabic and so we know how to do it wrongly. we also need to know how to do it rightly, because i think i can't remember who it was who said that this country cannot be a good place for anyone to live in, unless it's a good place for everyone to live

and we have to actually think seriously about this. i have to say, the introduction of the engush say, the introduction of the english language test for immigrants to this country was a really, really sensible piece of work . and now they they have to work. and now they they have to speak the english language because , you know, certainly in because, you know, certainly in my early days in parliament, i had many constituents coming to me. he couldn't speak a word of english, and the interpreter would often have an interpreter. those that's changed also, they have the english language or. the life in the in england test, to be honest, which i, i don't know if you've ever i have and i tried it the other day. >> it is quite difficult. >> it is quite difficult. >> it is quite difficult. >> it is quite difficult, very much so. >> but the key point just to what stephen was saying there is. that's right. the law has to 6my is. that's right. the law has to apply fairly to everybody. absolutely. and i think for too long it's felt that if you are frankly, you know, white middle class british, you've not been able to call out things in other communities where actually there might be issues. so going to the rochdale grooming scandal, for example, that was a systemic failure amongst social services, the police, the local authority, because nobody wanted to speak out through fear of being called racist or or fear of being called divisive in any way . when called divisive in any way. when you see the protests weekend

after weekend, as i say, the pro—palestinian protest where there has been hate speech in there has been hate speech in the uk and the police appeared to have done nothing, and going back further, we saw it in the blm and the blm. yeah, exactly, exactly. and therefore that has created a tension where you're now seeing a reaction, a wrong reaction. and you're right, there are people who are not far right who are equally who feel that tension, but don't feel that tension, but don't feel that they don't have a voice. the palestinians that are rioting, the palestinian protest, they can protest in a lawful way, just as we see other. >> but i observe the first 2 or 3 palestinian protests with the police on one occasion, and the people on that were overwhelmingly white, middle class people. i mean, you know, the guardian readers on a weekend out, it's an extraordinary thing. so i don't think there's any simple solution here. i think we're actually doing it. people say navel gazing is a bad thing. i think a bit of introspection to and actually look at and say, you know, where are we as a country? and i think, dawn, you put your finger on it earlier. what is it? is there something systematic, systemic within the nafion systematic, systemic within the nation at the moment that we are ignonng nation at the moment that we are ignoring at our peril? >> and i think that's right. and just very quickly on the back of that, i think, you know, the snapshots of what you see versus the reality of maybe those protests or what you see on

social media, obviously highlights it brings us to social media. exactly. which is exactly why we saw the first riots in southport, because the fake news that was circulated coming from a russian account. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> so we have to be extremely careful when we when we are protesting. what are the facts? >> social media is a spark in the tinderbox . the tinderbox. >> it's very dangerous. unfortunately, we've run out of time for that particular bit of the debate, but there is more of this to come. for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much more, please do go to our website which is gb news.com. now let's give you some good news shall we? imagine having £30,000 extra in your bank to play with this year however you want. well, it could be yours in our latest great british giveaway. get elected as we're giving away our biggest cash prize so far this summer, and you could be our next big winner. and here's how you do it. >> don't miss out on your chance to win a whopping £30,000 in tax free cash to spend. however, you like. it's extra cash that could really make a difference to your coming year. you could find

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leadership hopeful kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that integration is working. does she have a point , though? does she have a point, though? all of that and much more to come. this is gb news. the weekend and it's britain's news channel. don't go too far

we should put that conversation to start during the break out. but maybe after 9:00 at night, welcome back to the weekend with me. that was a real tease , me. that was a real tease, wasn't it? it was. wasn't it coming? yeah. the uncensored, the uncut version of the weekend with me. dawn neesom nissan uncut. okay. enough. right stephen pound and charlie rowley are still with me. as you can probably hear. stop it right now, tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch says the country can't pretend that integration is working . the shadow minister

is working. the shadow minister says we just pretend that everything is fine and it's a few bad apples, which is sometimes the case. but if you want to have a successful multiracial country, you need to make an effort to do that. and as you've heard them already, i mean, you can't shut stephen up to be honest with you being honest here, so i'm going to come to you first on this one, charlie. now, this is an interview that kemi badenoch who's just thrown her hat into the ring to be the tory party leader, in the telegraph saying today that integration isn't working , but, the westminster working, but, the westminster bubble is scared to tackle it, and they are ignoring what people outside that bubble are concerned about. and this is potentially triggering some of the unrest in the country we are witnessing at the moment. what do you make of what kemi has had to say? >> i think she has a point. because i think for too long you're absolutely right. the westminster bubble has always said that the problem with it's not immigration that's the problem at times, but it is the integration and yet we still

seem to have the tensions that we were just talking about in the last section. so integration is a factor and the integration seems to have failed in particular areas. the only pushbacki particular areas. the only pushback i would have is that when you see something like we saw at southport at southport, where if you are protesting, if you are rioting because you feel as though that you know the country is being overrun or taken over or whatever your motives, to go and do what the people did there in southport the very next day, the local community in southport were actually out there. yes, rebuilding the bricks. >> absolutely. yeah. >> absolutely. yeah. >> the local mosques and saying that this is not actually reflective of the community that we that we live in. so if that isn't integration and supporting your local, then i'm not quite sure what is. so there is a very, very good example that happenedin very, very good example that happened in southport of clearly an integrated. yes and a happy and, well, obviously not happy at the moment, obviously for the horrific reasons that we've been talking about the last few days. but a strong community nonetheless, versus perhaps other areas where there isn't that integration. i don't think it's necessarily maybe integration, but it's just

having the ability to be and feel equal in society. so you can equally call out things that go wrong or where there are , go wrong or where there are, whether it's criminal activity or whether it's gang violence, whether it's against a black community, whether it's against a pakistani community, whether it's against a muslim community, whether it is white, yobs in other communities. everybody has to have a stake in society to be able to call out the things that are going wrong. and i don't think that there is still that sort of, that, that equity in the country. >> and this is the problem, stephen, isn't it? i mean, i think paraphrasing kimmy here, she is saying that, you know, this westminster bubble, they are ignoring the genuine concerns of people out there in particular, sort of like people who are worried about immigration as well as health care and education and the cost of living, etc. but these, they feel like they haven't got a voice. and if they dare to try and have that voice, they are being demonised as being the far right when many of them certainly are not the far right. they're just concerned . this is,

they're just concerned. this is, i think, what kemi is trying to say here. we're not having the conversations we should be having and this is what's causing this feeling of unrest and anger. >> well, hang on a second. kemi badenoch surely is a perfect example of how integration does work with her family. have come here. they emigrated to this country, made a huge success, and she's now a potentially going to be a candidate for the leadership of the country. so look, when i was ten years old, i remember coming home from school and walking into the notting hill race riots, and i was coming home from school and those race riots were and it was the first time i'd ever i was ten years old. what did i know about it? and that was entirely against the west indian community, the caribbean community. yes. there was a perception that they were getting the jobs on the buses over local people. well, the local people didn't want the flipping jobs on the buses. so there's a lot there's a lot of economics at play here. but look, i think what what's kemi badenoch is it may be actually talking about the illness, but what is her prescription? what is she saying we should do? we can't turn the clock back to the 19505. can't turn the clock back to the 1950s. we can't go back to black and white television and dixon of dock green. we've got to somehow live with a world that we have today. and how do we do

that? because simply to say it's all awful and it's not working, you know that that's reasonable. you can't do that. so what we need to do is to say, what are the core issues here? if it's recreational rioting, let's deal with it. if it's an absence of policing, let's deal with it. if it's job opportunities. but to say that people are too scared to speak up, well, i have to say every second of every day that gb news is on the air, there is proof that you can speak out in this country, which is one of the reasons one of the three of us are sat here today. >> absolutely. and i think, look, you know, it might not be about particular communities or but it's about just who we are as a society. so as a, you know, as a society. so as a, you know, as british, you know, what is the best of british philosophical question? it is about being open, tolerant, diverse, equal, you know, allowing opportunity for all. but when you see things that take place in this country, whether it's sort of violence against women and girls, perhaps within a particular religion or culture, if it's, you know, fgm that takes place in certain communities, whether it's honour killings, whether it's forced or arranged marriages, things like that that are not british, that are not, you know , if you are, are not, you know, if you are, you know, if you go down, well , you know, if you go down, well, walk down any street,

particularly in central london. but if you're maybe from the lgbt community, if you're gay, you know, we have same sex marriage in this country. that's the right thing. but if you are, then a facing an attack by someone that might be from a different part of the country or someone that's actually come into the country, that's an immigrant, that is a homophobic or racist or, you know , we need or racist or, you know, we need to be able to call those people out, charlie, because we don't have that integration at times and people don't feel safe. and that's where you have to be able to say, hold on, this is britain. if you want to be in the uk, even if you're born into the uk, even if you're born into the uk. you said something incredibly, you said something incredibly, you said something incredibly important. >> earlier on. you actually mentioned the rochdale grooming gangs. you mentioned rotherham, you actually mentioned that was an example of how not to do it. that was when the police and the local authority, let's be honest, actually stood back because they were terrified of accusing a group of entirely asian men, mostly taxi drivers, of raping and abusing and addicted to drugs, young teenage girls. they stood back because they were too scared . we must they were too scared. we must neven they were too scared. we must never, ever allow that to happen again. exactly. people like sarah champion, who was the mp for rotherham, was was, you know , for rotherham, was was, you know, absolutely abused up hill and down dale because of calling it

out. and so we must never ever go there again . but out. and so we must never ever go there again. but i think out. and so we must never ever go there again . but i think that go there again. but i think that is what jess phillips as well, in her election nights of being heckled by, you know, you know, this particular community we thatis this particular community we that is the integration. >> and clearly you can protest. of course you can. you can have a political view about things, but where it is not, you're not upholding the values that we hold dear as a great common standards to everyone. >> there has to be one law for everybody. and there wasn't in rotherham, there wasn't in russia. >> and that's why there are tensions in society. that's why we haven't had the integration. >> i think we've solved it. yes >> i think we've solved it. yes >> yeah. well that's it. both stephen and charlie, i mean they've got my vote actually, as i said, strong opinions there. i let us know what you think about all this. do you feel your voice is being heard? do you think politicians are actually listening to you ? are you listening to you? are you frightened to actually speak out at the moment? i think that's what kemi badenoch is trying to say in this piece. in the telegraph today. anyways, i'm dawn neesom and this is gb news. it's the weekend and there's lots more coming up on today's show. but first, it's the highlight of my day. it's the news headlines with ray .

news headlines with ray. >> 231 top stories protests are currently taking place in several parts of the country in hull , around several parts of the country in hull, around 100 people have gathered outside of a migrant hotel being guarded by police, where a window has been smashed. meanwhile, police in riot gear were deployed in belfast amid tense exchanges between protesters and an anti—racism rally with a small number of fireworks being thrown. more than 30 events are expected to take place across today and tomorrow . northumberland police tomorrow. northumberland police have accused protesters of unforgivable violence and disorder following rioting in sunderland city centre last night. videos posted online showing a former police office ablaze while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with police throwing rocks and bottles. five

officers were injured, four with hospitalised and ten people arrested for offences including violent disorder and burglary. some of the video we showed at the start of that report was actually from sunderland, right? the uk's most senior police and crime commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration following rioting and civil unrest. donna jones calling for sir keir starmer to address protesters concerns as the country faces more than 30 demonstrations this weekend alone. she says the announcement of the prime minister's new violent crime unit has led to an accusation of two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters . and, quote, inflamed protesters. the 17 year old, accused of murdering three girls in southport, once starred as doctor who in a bbc children in need advert, then 11 year old axel rudi cubana can be seen leaving the tardis in 2018 and telling viewers how best to raise money. a spokesperson for bbc children in need said they'd removed the video out of respect

for those impacted by the shocking case. okay, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much. he's such a flirt , isn't he? right. such a flirt, isn't he? right. there's plenty more coming up on today's show, but before i tell you what we have lined up on this show for you. this is random. the wonderful andrew pierce has joined me in the studio. who is standing for in nana akua this afternoon. i didn't see this one coming. i have to admit. hello, andrew. lovely to see you. what? what delights have you got for us this afternoon? >> lots of delights and delightful to see you, too. >> of course we. obviously we're talking about the unrest, which appears to be spreading throughout the country, but also

dunng throughout the country, but also during the programme with the algerian boxer who's provoked all this controversy. she'll be back. all this controversy. she'll be back . she or should we call her? back. she or should we call her? >> he will be back in the ring this afternoon, you know that the italian boxer withdrew from the italian boxer withdrew from the fight after just about 40s claims she'd never been hit so hard before. >> we're having that debate. >> we're having that debate. >> should somebody who effectively is represented as a male be able to compete in female sport? the culture sector has got herself into all sorts of lather about this lisa nandy. i think it will be a fascinating debate, not least because the fight takes place while we are on air. so stay tuned for that. >> yeah, absolutely. that sounds a real cracker. and yeah, it's andrew pierce. i mean, come on, what's not to like? his show starts at three straight after this. thank you very much, andrew. now remember, let me know your thoughts on all the stories we've been discussing today by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay and join the conversation. and there's even more coming up tonight. you're not going to want to miss this

one. tonight we speak to the son of donald trump. that's eric trump, literally weeks after his father was almost assassinated. that's this evening from 9:00. and it's going to be a cracker . and it's going to be a cracker. you really want to miss that one. but there's lots more . one. but there's lots more. shush. there's lots more coming up on today's show, including him . honestly, he won't shut up. him. honestly, he won't shut up. that's our stephen pound by the way. okay, olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them from injuries amid the gender boxing row. all of that, and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom . this is the dawn neesom. this is the weekend. it's gb news, britain's news channel. you can put the kettle on but don't go too far

welcome back to the weekend with me dawn neesom now. okay, the story of the week from the olympics overshadowing all the

marvellous achievements . the marvellous achievements. the international boxing association will award italian boxer angela carini the prize money she would have won if she'd become olympic champion. carini has been in the spotlight after abandoning her fight against controversial algerian boxer imane khelif. the athlete at the centre of a gender eligibility storm. i think storm is putting it mildly, now i say you have stephen pound with me. you may have heard him several times, and the very restrained charlie rowley to talk about this subject. now it is a complicated story. it's not a transgender issue. this is someone born with an incredibly, as far as we're aware, incredibly rare, genetic, it's called differences in sex development. i'm coming to you first on this one, charlie, the reason we're discussing it again is because, khalife is fighting again this afternoon. a hunganan again this afternoon. a hungarian boxer by the name of anna luca hamari, what do you

make of the situation here? >> well, as you say, it's incredibly complex and complicated and i think because of the way in which if you're competing in the olympics and testing that takes place in the olympics is different to maybe if you're competing in other international competitions . so international competitions. so it's the european championships or something like that. the athletics championship versus the olympics. there's different testings, different procedures and protocols, which is why this algerian fighter has been able to compete in the olympics, i think. but you're you're absolutely right. when you have an opponent in and you want your sport to be competitive by the way you want it to be, fair also. and when you've got an opponent that's had to withdraw after 46 seconds because of fear of her life, because she's up against another opponent who clearly has a genetic or a test? ironic, if that's a word, it is now , a level that is unfair and now, a level that is unfair and puts you at an overwhelming disadvantage or advantage if it's you that you have those

particular genetics, then of course there has to be a conversation. so where you have, featherweight, lightweight , featherweight, lightweight, middle weight heavyweight in terms of boxing, do you have to have a test to make sure that actually testosterone levels are equal? do you have to have maybe height levels ? i don't know, i height levels? i don't know, i don't know enough about the sport in general, but what people want to see is just fairness. and when the system doesn't seem to be fair, and in this case, it clearly has thrown up those questions, then the olympic committee and we have to the sporting authorities need to look. yeah, i mean, the problem is that boxing world is ruled by different committees. >> and this is the eba who have banned these two fighters. the other fighter being lin yu ting, who are , taiwan from taiwan, who who are, taiwan from taiwan, who she fought yesterday or they fought yesterday and won. but the iba have said both of these fighters have xy chromosomes, which makes them male . therefore which makes them male. therefore they cannot fight in a female category. the ioc, which is the olympic governing body, have said they were born female. they have female on the passport.

they can fight in this category now , aside from the fact all now, aside from the fact all this should have been sorted out a long way ago. it. what do you make of what's going on here? >> well, i think you've broken a pretty interesting story here that i don't think anybody else has picked up this business about giorgia meloni the italian prime minister and the italian government offering angela carini the boxer, the money that she would have won. now, what little i know about her and angela carini, she's a police officer. she's a very courageous and very proud italian woman. i should imagine she would actually be quite insulted by being given that money, because she what she wanted was a fair fight. john, this is an interesting point. i had a lot of boxing when i was younger and under the old aba rules, which you had to stop when you were 30, which in my case was a very, very long time ago. but, you know, we fought in different weight categories. now, if i'd gone into the ring in the fulham baths against a heavyweight boxer when i was a lightweight, i would have been knocked across the river, you know? so you can't do that. i think there's a fairly simple test you talk about. i have to say, you know, the complicated factor that these this is not a transsexual

thing. this is this is like caster semenya. do you remember the south african sprinter? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> who suffered from this particular situation ? you can particular situation? you can take a swab test. when i was boxing, we had to give a urine sample. we had even back in the 50s and the 60s, we had a swab test from the inside , the buccal test from the inside, the buccal test from the inside, the buccal test inside the cheek. very, very simple. you can identify very, very quickly the level of testosterone and the chromosome. let's keep it simple. now the problem is, and i'm afraid to say you put your finger on it yet again when you've got five different belts you can fight for. yeah. and everybody talks about a unified champion because what that means is you fought in five different, you know, world federation of boxing world. you know so and so how are we going to pull it all together. and i think as the problem has come to its head in the olympic arena, it's up to the olympic committee to actually take the lead on this and say, look , this however this and say, look, this however you look at it, this cannot be right . when you just look at the right. when you just look at the pictures of those two people together. this cannot under any circumstances be right. and i bit worried about this hungarian woman this afternoon because angela carine said she'd never been hit so hard in her life now

that she actually. >> and angela is a winner. that she actually. >> and angela is a winner . she's >> and angela is a winner. she's won medals before, by the way. she's not like a good tough boxer. >> yeah. you know, and you know, being a policewoman in italy is not a particularly easy job ehhen not a particularly easy job either. so what's going to happen today? and kelly, i mean if you just look at the pictures, dear god in heaven, you know, honestly i mean she, she has she may be in a very unusual position, but she should quite simply should not be using that to actually dominate a sport to which otherwise she wouldn't have been entitled. >> this is the interesting point. we are running out of time, unfortunately on this one. but both of these, these boxers, know genetically what they are because they have been tested and they have been banned. they both know that as they can't fight, you know , under eba fight, you know, under eba rules. so why are they still why i'm a bit suspicious as a woman. why are they still insisting on fighting females in the olympics ? fighting females in the olympics? >> well, because it's easier. >> well, because it's easier. >> do you think it's that simple? do you think it is? it's cheating. then basically . cheating. then basically. >> that's not not a word. i think it's probably. i think it

is, to be honest. yes. you're taking a an advantage for something which you've not earned because they know they have this advantage. >> charlie. >> charlie. >> well, i don't know. i mean, if you're an athlete, you want to, you know, beat the best by competing. you want to be a sportsperson. you want surely you're just turning up. and so it's a question for them how they identify. but what what you said earlier on is just absolutely right is how has it got to, to this stage so late in the day that we're talking about it now when there are all these other committees boxing and in all these other sports, they should have dealt with this before it even got to that fight the other day, including the one this afternoon. so why that hasn't happened. that's a failure on behalf of the i think, the boxing authorities. >> well, let's just hope that the hungarian who is taking it on khalife this afternoon, anna luca hamari, is not her and it's a good fight. >> what happens after that? then who's the next boxer ? well. and who's the next boxer? well. and how do you think they're feeling? >> and are you depriving a female of her medal because she should be in that place, i think, than a biological i think so, yeah. >> i think it's an unfair advantage. >> okay. thank you very much.

that's stephen pound and charlie rowley are strong opinions. there thank you very much for joining me this afternoon , god, joining me this afternoon, god, right. and now we have to move on. i'm dawn neesom on gb news. this is the weekend and there's loads more coming up on today's pack show. phillip schofield is the odds on favourite to make his tv comeback on an itv flagship programme. stay tuned to find out more about that one. all of this and much more to come. this is gb britain's news channel and this

welcome back i'm dawn neesom and this is the weekend and i hope you're having a blooming good one out there now. former itv presenter phillip schofield is looking to make his comeback on british tv . words you never

british tv. words you never thought you'd hear yourself say . thought you'd hear yourself say. the daily mirror is reporting his favourite for this year's i'm a celebrity get me out of here line up. he hasn't been seen on our screens since his unwise but not illegal his words affair shattered his career last year , joining me now is showbiz year, joining me now is showbiz supremo daniel mason to explain . supremo daniel mason to explain. daniel, this is, i think, one of the most great exclusives by the daily mirror, but one of the most shocking showbiz stories, i think i've read this year. yeah. >> i mean, phillip has been tipped to come back, so he describes it as an unwise but not illegal affair with a man that was 34 years. >> he's younger now. he's been tipped by the mirror. a couple of other people have spoken out that he's tipped to go in the jungle this year. now, we were saying if i was a producer, i would more than likely book him , would more than likely book him, because i'm looking at the viewing figures for you and i myself would be very interested to tune in. so i don't think it

would be a bad move . would be a bad move. >> but i mean, he come back on. >> but i mean, he come back on. >> so he's had a year out over a year now. so he left this morning, may 23rd. he started posting on social media again for the first time. interesting. may 23rd. right. may 24th. sorry he started posting, but he has got support out there still. he's got a lot of support and there are celebrities backing him, >> i mean, you've had james corden's been reportedly backing him. >> jeremy clarkson, rylan clark, they all support his posts, so, you know, there's offers on the table there. i think it's a great idea from a producer's point of view, but the british pubuc point of view, but the british public are forgiving. so it could work well in his favour. i mean, he's been dipping his toe very lightly in the water to see he's been spotted out with deck and decks . maher maaroufe. he's been spotted out with deck and decks. maher maaroufe. he's been spotted out with, deck having dinner and having a

laugh. so he's in there with, you know, and these things don't happen by accident. do they? we know how it works. it's like, oh, you know, it's like just not. it's probably organised by somebody . yeah. so, ben shepherd somebody. yeah. so, ben shepherd and cat deeley obviously took the place of holly and phil, holly has gone off to do a celebrity stint, where she's going to be the host of a netflix documentary in the jungle, which is bear grylls. so she's gone off doing that. she's still doing her dancing on ice. phil's obviously stepped away from dancing on ice as well, but i think this could be a big comeback for him. and i've got to say, you know what the industry's like, dawn, you know, fickle to say the least. >> very, very fickle. >> very, very fickle. >> it's not the best industry to be in. you've got people that really are supporting you. and as soon as you get that bad bit of press , that's it. they're of press, that's it. they're dead against you. do you genuinely think he can turn it around? could we, for instance, see him back on on a mainstream programme like this morning again? well, i think he's done

all the pr stunts, that is necessary to put him in a good light again. so i do think he's played the game right. you know, he's come out in the bbc, he's put it laid it all out there. you know , whether it's truth or you know, whether it's truth or not, we don't know. but he has done the right things. he's stepped away. i think there possibly could be another chance for phillip schofield out there. wow that's interesting daniel mason we shall wait with bated breath to see whether that actually happens. thank you very much, daniel. thank you. well, i've been dawn neesom i still will be dawn neesom later on. by the way, this is gb news. it's the way, this is gb news. it's the weekend. and thank you so much for joining the weekend. and thank you so much forjoining me , there's much for joining me, there's loads more coming up on today's show, though. we. andrew pierce standing for in nana akua. and we've got a great donald trump some interview coming up at 9:00 tonight. john and mr but before all of that, importantly, let's get the weather with greg. see you soon. you 500“. >> you soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb

news . news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it starts to turn more unsettled over the next few days, particularly across the northwest of the uk, with some heavy rain in the forecast, particularly by monday. but for now we do have weather fronts across the engush weather fronts across the english channel giving some outbreaks of rain here. england and wales generally dry with some sunny spells. early rain clearing but a scattering of showers for northern ireland and scotland as we end the day. but generally overnight, it turns dner generally overnight, it turns drier for a time , but then drier for a time, but then thicker cloud will bring patchy rain in across northern ireland. western parts of scotland generally stays dry across england and wales for everyone. temperatures staying in double figures but lower than recent night, so a little more comfortable for sleeping. so a mixed start to sunday. a lot of cloud across the uk if we take a look at scotland first thing in the morning, you can see outbreaks of rain across western areas a bit brighter across

parts of aberdeenshire. some sunny spells here, the rain extending into parts of northern ireland, western parts of northern england too, but generally light and patchy. some bright skies down the east coast of england and in some hazy, sunny spells across parts of england and wales. but the cloud, thick enough even across parts of wales, over the high ground for 1 parts of wales, over the high ground for1 or 2 splashes of ground for 1 or 2 splashes of rain as we move through the day, we'll continue to see outbreaks of rain pushing into northern ireland, northwestern parts of scotland, some heavier bursts possible at times, a few showers developing across the rest of scotland into northern england, perhaps wales later, as well. the best of any brightness holding on across east and south—east england. here temperatures rising to around 23 or 24 celsius for most, nearer to average, though feeling cooler than recent days. highs around 18 degrees as we go into the evening time. some heavier rain developing across parts of northern ireland into western parts of scotland, which will continue through into monday as well. met office warning in force here for that heavy rain, followed by showers as we head into tuesday and wednesday.

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>> hello and welcome to gb news on your tv and on your digital radio. i'm andrew pierce, standing in for nana akua. joining me from 4 pm. broadcast and columnist lizzie cundy and former labour party adviser matthew laza. >> and coming up sunderland protest another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police officer. >> they set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland . surround a mosque in sunderland. gender boxing row olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them from serious injuries. but the olympics chiefs say those expressing such concerns are part of what they call a witch hunt. the fallout