>> hello and welcome to gb news on your tv and on your digital radio. i'm andrew doyle, standing for in nana akua and joining me in the next hour is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and the broadcaster and author christine hamilton. coming up in a few moments, we'll be going head to head in clash of minds with gb. news, senior political commentator nigel nelson and political commentator suzanne evans. they'll be going head to head and violence has erupted across the uk this weekend from hull, liverpool, bristol, manchester, blackpool and belfast as demonstrations turned violent . demonstrations turned violent. algerian boxer mani khalife, the athlete at the centre of a gender eligibility storm, has advanced to the women's

semi—final at the olympics. six hopefuls are in the running to be the next tory leader, as dame priti patel has stated today that reform uk should should be defeated, not appeased. strong words indeed, and for outside. this week at 5:00 pm, i'm joined by british by british reality star and a businesswoman. can you guess who it is.7 now, star and a businesswoman. can you guess who it is? now, before we get started, let's get the latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> thanks, andrew. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top story this hour. masked anti—immigration demonstrators have smashed windows at a houdayinn have smashed windows at a holiday inn express in rotherham, throwing pieces of wood and chairs, injuring at least one. police officer comes after police warned further violence was likely following protests in england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes

between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. thenit officers attacked and injured. then it comes after three girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport on monday. speaking earlier on gb news, former scotland yard detective peter bleksley did not mince his words. >> no matter what somebody's concerns are, if you pick up a brick or you pick up a bottle and you try it at a police officer, you are an idiot. end officer, you are an idiot. end of story. and unfortunately, we face yet another evening of violence when more police officers were injured, something quite dramatic is going to have to happen here, because i see no sign at the moment of this unrest diminishing. in fact, i see it escalating and spreading . see it escalating and spreading. >> a supermarket owner in belfast says his business has been reduced to ashes after it was targeted during disorder in the city. bashir said muslim businesses were deliberately

targeted and is criticising police for their response to the violence. this morning, a clean up operation was underway in the donegall road area following last night's unrest, which lasted for several hours. bashir was asked if he would be able to reopen. >> i don't know, you have to ask the police about that. when they stop all of all of that, then we will talk about it. all of that happened and the police did nothing. i'm telling you the truth . what kind of police? truth. what kind of police? letting the people to burn everything down. i don't know where is the safety in that. but this is all rubbish. >> number 10, sources are disputing claims that sir keir starmer is planning a summer getaway on monday, despite the risk of further unrest. it comes after tory leadership candidate robert jenrick urged the pm to cancel his trip and get a grip on the situation. many more arrests have been promised in the coming days, as the prime minister said that the police

have his full support to take action against extremists. robert jenrick says sir keir must stay and deal with the problem . problem. >> well, look, i think it would be completely wrong for the prime minister to go on holiday whilst parts of britain are burning. this is a very serious situation and we need the prime minister to be leading the country. we the police, need our full support and they need to know that he is there supporting them, making sure that this situation is being handled from the very top. >> sir keir starmer is accusing protesters of attempting to sow hate by intimidating communities. reform uk mp rupert lowe says he needs to listen to the protesters concerns. >> what we need is an honest debate. i don't have a golden bullet for years and years of the elite's mismanagement of our immigration policy, but we've got to have a frank and honest discussion about it. there isn't always a sort of one one line answer to these things. it's extremely complex, but what we

can't go on doing is undermining the foundations of this great country. and not listening to the people who are now concerned about it, because they're right to be concerned. they've got every right to be concerned about what's happening to their country . country. >> the bbc is reportedly paying for the therapy of a woman who made complaints about disgraced newsreader huw edwards. according to the sunday times. rachel became friends with him on instagram in 2018, but made complaints in 2021 and 2022 after their relationship became , after their relationship became, quote, toxic. it comes days after edwards pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children. bbc has declined to comment. so far. in the us, florida is bracing itself as tropical storm debbie is expected to turn into a hurricane before hitting landfall. this evening. governor ron desantis has called up 3000 national guard and placed most of florida's cities and counties under emergency orders . under emergency orders. evacuations are also taking

place in those areas most likely to be affected. the national hurricane centre is describing it as a life threatening situation, with winds expected to build to 70mph and two metre high waves. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm ray addison more in half an hour with tatiana sanchez for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome! i'm andrew doyle. i'm standing in for nana akua live across the united kingdom on gb news. akua live across the united kingdom on gb news . violence has kingdom on gb news. violence has erupted in uk cities this weekend, with demonstrations turning violent just in the last houn turning violent just in the last hour. there's been a disturbance at a hotel in rotherham with hundreds of people gathering outside a hotel and there

clashing with police over the weekend. protesters have been arrested , with injured police arrested, with injured police officers being treated for injuries late last night, ministers were in talks with the judiciary to have courts operate 24 hours in order to fast track sentencing. the prime minister assured police of the government's full support to take all necessary action to keep our streets safe from thugs who sow hate. that's a direct quotation joining me now is gb news reporter adam cherry . adam, news reporter adam cherry. adam, thanks for joining me. news reporter adam cherry. adam, thanks forjoining me. do you thanks for joining me. do you have any thoughts on these latest developments ? latest developments? >> yeah, it's ugly stuff isn't it ? i mean, the as you say that it? i mean, the as you say that what we're seeing unfold as we speak in the last hour in rotherham is horrible. in fact, there's now there's a fire in that building. it looks like riot police. according to social media. again, this is all unfolding as we speak. it looks like the riot police are taking control of that. and the fire may be now extinguished. but still, this cannot go on. and obviously the immediate short

term response to this is necessary . it needs to be necessary. it needs to be serious. and so we saw some of that last night. the cabinet or at least senior members of the cabinet meeting to discuss that with the judiciary . and now with the judiciary. and now moving forward with plans to activate what's known as the additional courts protocol, which means opening the courts for 24 hours to try and deal with the deluge of people coming in. but also, i think we will need to have a serious conversation about the long term solution to this, not just the next week or or, god forbid, the next week or or, god forbid, the next few weeks. but why has this been allowed to fester and get so bad over the last few years? i think serious discussions need to be had on that as well. >> well, of course, adam, there's been a lot of chat about keir starmer saying that he might be going on holiday soon. this seems like the worst possible time to do that . but do possible time to do that. but do you really think these measures, the, you know, this 24 hour sentencing, keeping the courts open , is this really going to open, is this really going to achieve anything? sounds a bit like he's addressing the symptoms rather than the cause .

symptoms rather than the cause. >> yeah, i suppose so. i mean it is a short term measure. it did work in 2011 when keir starmer was the director of public prosecutions. it was activated dunng prosecutions. it was activated during the london riots and it was seen as ultimately one of the measures that that calm things down. a little bit, along with additional resources and policing on the streets, something which is also being discussed now as well. so, so perhaps as for keir starmer going on holiday, well, downing street are pushing back on this a little bit. there's a little bit of spin going on here because in the times where this was initially reported that it was initially reported that it was alleged that he would be going on holiday in a week's time. so, in other words, next weekend, well, downing street are saying, look, he's definitely not going on holiday on monday, which clearly isn't the same thing. and as ray addison said in the bulletins there you have robert jenrick and other leading conservatives say this is inappropriate. britain is burning effectively and the prime minister needs to be behind his desk. he will also face accusations of hypocrisy on

this because in 2021, he said the same thing when he was in opposition. when boris johnson and dominic raab, who were then in government, went on holiday dunng in government, went on holiday during the evacuation of troops in afghanistan, you remember parliament was recalled then. and as with now, there are suggestions that it should happen again. parliament should return having just gone on recess less than a week ago. so these are discussions which are being had. >> okay. adam cherry, thanks very much for joining >> okay. adam cherry, thanks very much forjoining us. really appreciate those thoughts. we're going to get started with the show now. welcome ever so much to my panel. we have gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. and we also have political commentator suzanne evans. okay. we'll start with you . suzanne. welcome to the you. suzanne. welcome to the show. hi. what do you make of all this? i mean, do you think that keir starmer going on holiday? i can understand what adam is saying there. there's a bit of confusion about precisely when he's going to go and how long he's going to go for, and the rest of it. but do you think that's a responsible situation? i mean, it does look like this is spreading from city to city and just getting worse. >> yeah. i mean, keir starmer i think has played this wrong from the start.

>> i think he's been tone deaf on the issues. >> really. >> really. >> what he's said i think has sparked the flames of division and him going on holiday now as adam cherry rightly pointed out, in opposition, he was always the first to complain when anyone went on a on a planned holiday with even the slightest hint that perhaps they should be staying in the country. he was right there, front and centre, and now he's potentially going off to do whatever he's going to do again, completely wrong. like i said, tone deaf. you know, his speech the other day, the violence is horrendous. it's clearly escalating, escalating. and i think that's in part because people it started because people it started because people it started because people felt they weren't being listened to. and now they feel even more. >> they're not being listened to because we've got a situation for instance, where they're talking about opening the courts 24 over seven, basically to try and try and prosecute quite rightly, prosecute the rioters. >> but the thing is , there's the >> but the thing is, there's the national audit office just two months ago was saying there's an almost 70,000 backlog of cases for the crown court. >> and yet nothing happened then. so you've got props hardened korean criminals who are kind of languishing on bail or whatever, or potentially on remand, and nothing's been done about it . now suddenly it's about it. now suddenly it's almost as though kind of middle

england is up in arms and up in flames, quite literally. and oh well, actually, now we can do something about it. so everything he does, everything he says, and i think yvette cooper the same is actually just flowing, throwing fuel on this fire. okay. >> well i'm going to bring nigel nelson in on this. do you think that suzanne is right about that? has keir completely mishandled this from the start? no. >> i mean, the whole thing is that these are the worst riots since 2011, >> the way that they were dealt with was a major police presence, a huge crackdown , and presence, a huge crackdown, and eventually they were able to be controlled . controlled. >> now you've got to take these things in stages. the first things in stages. the first thing to do is stop the rioters in their tracks. that is what keir starmer is doing, backing the police to get out there and deal with them, adding things like facial recognition technology, travel bans, all the things that might stop them actually doing it . then you move actually doing it. then you move to the second stage, which i think that suzanne was alluding to about dealing with the issues behind it, social media, that at the moment you've got a situation where these the far

right is not organised. hope not hate describes it more like a shoal of fish, because the organisations are more or less disappeared. so the result is you get one social media influencer who posts the date and time of a riot, and then it happens. that's all you actually need to make it work. so you must deal with social media. and finally, deal with the people themselves that these are people being manipulated by those who want to, who are out to destroy our country, that they feel so patriotic about. >> so, nigel, you you make the point, though , that obviously point, though, that obviously keir starmer has to divide this into short term solutions and then the long term problems that need to be addressed . but did need to be addressed. but did his speech really help? there were some who have argued that he is kind of lumped in people who are committing acts of violence, genuine far right activists with people who have genuine concerns about illegal immigration and sort of put them together. and in a way, he's kind of inflaming tensions, even more. >> well, i mean, i would argue against that. i mean, what we're

seeing at the moment is these are people from the far right that they were former followers of the english defence league , of the english defence league, former followers of national action, english defence , defence action, english defence, defence league has virtually disappeared. >> so you're talking about the rioters. you're talking about the people committing acts of violence. yes, but what about the broader problem of the generalised sense of resentment about the fact that nothing has been done to kerb illegal immigration? those should be distinguished, shouldn't they, from the rioters. >> they should. but i mean, those people are not going around torching police cars or setting fire to citizens advice bureaux. i mean that that that is a different thing. so if you start taking the things that the rioters appear to be complaining about, it is the murder of children. we're all against the murder of children. if they haven't got an answer to that, let's hear it. they talk about stopping the boats. they talk about, kerbing mass migration. absolutely. these are mainstream issues that the last government and the present one are tackling. if these guys have an answer to it, what is that answer? >> i'm going to bring suzanne in here. yeah. you chuckled a

little bit there. you're a bit sceptical. >> it was a chuckle. i was more sigh of, oh my gosh, where do we go? really? but i think the problem is, nigel, i think what you're failing to appreciate here is you're saying the government's this government and the last government were tackling illegal immigration. we're tackling stopping the boats. but they haven't. and you don't have to. you know, an idiot can see that they've not done anything about this. and this is the problem. there's problem. >> what i'm saying is no one is coming up with an answer to it. it's all very well to go on the streets and protest about and say, oh, something must be done, but nobody's coming up with the with what? is this something? what is it ? with what? is this something? what is it? that's with what? is this something? what is it ? that's the with what? is this something? what is it? that's the magic bullet. >> is there a risk here, suzanne, that the problem is that if you conflate the people who are obviously should be condemned, the people who are committing acts of violence, which nobody in their right mind would support, if you conflate that with people who have legitimate grievances and even, even even the grievances have been shared between those who commit acts of violence and those who don't. the problem is that if you conflate all of that, then in other words, you start to imply that the very idea of opposing illegal immigration is in of itself, far

right. >> and this is exactly. you've hit the nail on the head. this is exactly my concern about this. so on twitter or x as it's now called, you've got a hashtag called far right thugs unite, which sounds horrific, but when you actually look at what's happening under that hashtag, you've got ordinary people saying, well, you know, keir starmer thinks i'm a far right thug, but here i am, i'm a nurse, i'm a doctor, i'm a charity worker, one guy posted. i'm actually a protection officer at the house of commons or was until i've just very recently retired. so people are very angry that they feel they are being lumped into this far right thuggery bracket when they're not. they're just desperately ordinary people with ordinary jobs doing ordinary good things, very concerned about the future of this country. >> do you accept that, nigel, that the people that susanna is describing will be among those who are saying that this violence is reprehensible and can never be sure? >> and i don't think they're being lumped into the far right that we don't think that's happening. no, i mean, that is not what keir starmer was talking about. he was talking about the people who are taking to the streets, who are throwing bricks, who are injuring police

officers. he's not talking about general people or they're they're more general concerns about things like immigration. point i'm making is that the rioters aren't helping this situation. they're being dragged up situation. they're being dragged ”p by by situation. they're being dragged up by by people on social media who only want to do us harm. so on the basis of that, if they haven't got an answer, what is the point of going out on the streets and committing that violence? >> finally, suzanne, very quickly, do you accept nigel's point that actually the prime minister made a very good job of distinguishing between those violent protesters and the people who are merely have reservations about illegal? >> i don't think i did. and what concerns me is that, as so very often happens in these situations, the thuggery, the violence is going to be used to crack down and deprive ordinary people of freedom. you know, he's talking about restricting travel. he's talking about facial id . these are things that facial id. these are things that we know a lot of government criminals, not necessarily well so far. but, you know, we also had lord walney talking the labour peer talking about covid style lockdowns . that worries style lockdowns. that worries me. you know, the rioters have actually fuelling again also i

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welcome back here with andrew doyle standing in for nana akua on gb news on tv and on digital radio. algerian boxer amani khalife, the athlete at the

centre of a gender eligibility storm, has advanced to the women's semi—final after defeating hungary's ana lucia hamori yesterday and khalife was previously disqualified from last year's world championships over gender eligibility criteria, with boxing boss saying the olympics is destroying women's sports. now. the olympic organisers have doubled down on their decision to allow taiwanese lin yu ting, an athlete in the same position, and algeria's imani khalife, to compete. and the algerian olympic committee has filed a complaint with the international olympic committee over their treatment. so i'm bringing my panel back in now. welcome to gb news, senior political commentator nigel nelson and political commentator suzanne evans. nigel, i'm going to start with you . this is a bit of with you. this is a bit of a complicated one. the first thing to say, i think, is this is not an issue of transgenderism. it's got nothing to do with that. >> that's right. so what you're what you have here is imane khelif was born. a woman has lived like a woman, has competed a woman as a woman, all her

life. and as far as the international olympic committee are concerned, she is a woman. so where the complication arises is what the international boxing association did at the world championships and they this is all terribly murky. and that's why it all gets complicated. they're a russian led organisation. they're now banned by the international olympic committee over a load of irregularities. financial refereeing, judging, unfairness. they conducted a test, after imani beat a russian , a russian imani beat a russian, a russian woman boxer. so there's a lot of suspicions there. >> but let's leave aside the corruption thing, because i think those things are separate to the sex verification test, which have not been contested by either either of the athletes who participated. so it's not just that both individuals have x y chromosomes, but we don't know that. we do know that. yes. >> no, we don't know that. >> no, we don't know that. >> well, why are you saying that? are you are you saying

that? are you are you saying that the results are incorrect? well because the results are by the iba and those tests are so murky and you haven't explained exactly what they were, who carried them out and what the results were. >> they say they're going to do this on monday at a press conference. well, let's just be clear that the ipa has said that both these athletes have x y chromosomes, and they've also said that they have a competitive advantages over women, which implies that they also went through male puberty. >> they can't release the details of the results because they would be sued for that. they would be violating the privacy of the athletes . privacy of the athletes. >> well, they're going to make a they're they're going to hold a press conference on monday where they're going to are going to do just just what you say. >> i don't think anyone's disputing the test. i think what they're disputing, the disputing they're disputing, the disputing the test. well, you are, but i don't think many people the international olympic committee is disputing the test. >> well, no, the international olympic committee are saying that these people were born female as in assigned female at birth. >> yeah. grew up as girls. yeah. everyone knows that this is true. what seems very, very. >> and they're disputing the test because they do not know exactly how the tests were done, what tests were done and who carried them out.

>> so what we need is clarity, because at the moment the assumption has to be or the likelihood is that both of these athletes have dsd or a different sex development. >> they might have. >> they might have. >> and if that is the case, surely they in that case, nigel, if it is to be completely verified and determined that they do have dsd, should they be excluded from women's sports, well, then you get to get to a get to a completely complicated area about how different people have different hormones , have different hormones, regardless of their of their sex. okay, i'm going to bring in suzanne. >> so let's just not talking about hormones here, right? >> we are. >> we are. >> testosterone. right. >> testosterone. right. >> sorry, suzanne. so being very clear about this, it's very unlikely that the olympic committee will dispute that the actual results of the test, let's let's take that. i mean , let's let's take that. i mean, it is it is very unclear at the moment. and what would be really helpful is if the athletes themselves were to release the results of the test, they didn't contest it at the time. it would clear things up straight away. let's take the assumption then, which which is the assumption made by most people at the moment, given the evidence that we have, that this is a case of

dsc, dsd. yeah, in which case both of these athletes are male , both of these athletes are male, but they did not. but and they went through male puberty . yes, went through male puberty. yes, but they did not know they were male at birth and were raised as girls. now this happens an awful lot. and i think in those situations, such people do deserve compassion . deserve compassion. >> i you know, my heart cries out for anyone who's in that position. and i have had close friends who've been in that position and it's horrific. and yes, ultimate sympathy is awful. but at the same time, you have to protect sport integrity. you have to respect women. you know, nobody ever set at the olympics thinking that wife beating was effectively going to be an olympic sport. yeah and that's kind of what we're looking at here. i think, you know, when you have a top athlete like the italian boxer andrea carini, who literally has two punches and says, that's it, i'm out of here. she has trained for four years to get to the olympics. and just after 46 seconds, she is so in fear of her life, as she said, you know, i had to preserve my life that she feels she has to bow out of the

competition, that she has worked so hard to achieve. you think there is something horribly wrong here? it should not be allowed to continue. >> suzanne. if it were the case that the results were sort of brought out into the open, everything was transparent. all of a sudden . and in fact, were of a sudden. and in fact, were the case that both of these athletes are indeed female, that they were just a naturally strong or strangely strong, would you then say, okay, they should be in the sport? >> it's a really difficult one. i think if you've got such high levels of testosterone that you're put at a competitive advantage and are posing a danger to others , then i don't. danger to others, then i don't. i still don't think it should be allowed. personally, that's my that's a safeguarding issue, isn't it? >> it is. absolutely. >> it is. absolutely. >> so, nigel, this is the point. we're talking here about safety. but let's take a parallel example. the example of the athlete caster semenya, who is a middle distance runner who does have dsd. in fact is male but was raised as female. would you say, given your position on this, would you say that caster semenya should be able to compete in women's sports? >> yes, i would, because i mean, on what grounds? because she is a woman. >> what is a woman? >> what is a woman?

>> oh, i'm asking that seriously . >> oh, i'm asking that seriously. >> oh, i'm asking that seriously. >> okay. all right, obviously a woman is an adult female , but woman is an adult female, but then we start getting into the trans debate, don't we? and a woman , then, is somebody who has woman, then, is somebody who has chosen to live as a woman for two years. >> in this country, a woman mean all right. >> it means living in your acquired. if you wanted a gender recognition certificate in this country. yes. what it means is you must have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria . you must then gender dysphoria. you must then live in your acquired for gender two years. satisfy, a gender recognition panel. all those things have happened at that point. you are officially a woman for all official, purposes. so passport. passport. we're talking about wearing traditional women's clothing, behaving in traditionally feminine ways. >> that's right. wouldn't it be simpler for in terms of athletes, in terms of sports, for us to just dismiss it as follows and say a female is a someone whose body anatomically is predicated on the notion of developing large gametes and a

male body is one predicated on the notion of developing small gametes. and that would solve all of this, wouldn't it? because caster semenya is male. >> well, i mean, i would say that she's a woman. >> i mean that, but according to those definitions, according to the biological definition, she is. yeah. >> well, i mean, then we come to a we're now confusing two things because we're now getting into the whole trans woman. >> i'm not getting into trans at all. what i'm talking about is very clearly biologically designating that there are only two sexes. no one has ever changed sex. >> that's fine. we agree on that. >> and we agree, therefore, that caster semenya, with testes that did not develop as secondary sex characteristics remain inside the body. caster semenya is male. there's no there's no getting around that. that's a matter of fact. so my question is , do you think that under is, do you think that under certain circumstances, a male athlete can compete in women's sports, given that condition? >> yes. and it but obviously what it depends on a little bit is the sport. so if somebody who has been through male puberty is stronger than another competitor. yes. and that

matters in that particular sport. boxing for instance, like like boxing . yes. then we're like boxing. yes. then we're we're in a whole different ballgame . ballgame. >> so if it is determined definitely that lin yu ting and imani khalife did go through male puberty, you would say they shouldn't be in that box. yes. >> i mean, in the event that they are male, they should not be in women's sport. and that's my point earlier that's contested about the xy chromosome bit. >> but it seems from what we've seen, suzanne, so far , that it seen, suzanne, so far, that it is very, very likely that these two athletes did in fact go through male puberty. so by nigel's own definition, they shouldn't be in this match. >> i think that's right. and when you look at how tough a sporting community is on even kind of minor performance, performance enhancing drug abuse, and then you've got something like, like this happening, which gives you a massive, a, you know, advantage, then i don't really understand. this should even be a debate about this. >> but then, you know, from their perspective, they've grown up as female, you know, so , so up as female, you know, so, so to suddenly say to them, we have

to suddenly say to them, we have to take your whole vocation away. terribly sad. isn't that terribly cruel? >> it is terribly cruel and very hard. >> and if they were in america, the us boxing association would allow them to compete. >> okay, so ultimately, particularly, i think when you've got a sport like boxing, which is potentially very dangerous for, for their opponent, it can't be allowed. >> i'm sorry. i think the only sport in which men and women can really equate compete on an equal basis is equestrian sport, which they do, which they do. >> very interesting. okay. you're with nana akua on gb news. it's actually andrew doyle sitting in for nana akua in case you hadn't noticed, still to come, dame priti patel has stated today that reform uk should be defeated, not appeased. but first we've got the latest news headlines . the latest news headlines. >> andrew thank you and good afternoon. the top stories . afternoon. the top stories. >> anti—immigration demonstrators have attacked police and smashed the windows of a hotel as unrest across the country continues. >> masked rioters threw lengths

of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers outside a holiday inn express in rotherham . videos from social rotherham. videos from social media appeared to show demonstrators storming into the hotel, with reports of a fire inside. >> and it comes after police warned further violence was likely following protests in england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and also injured. it comes after three girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport almost a week ago . southport almost a week ago. number 10 sources are disputing claims sir keir starmer is planning a summer getaway tomorrow, despite the risk of further unrest . it comes after further unrest. it comes after tory leadership candidate robert jenrick urged the prime minister to cancel his trip and get a grip on the situation. many more arrests have been promised in the coming days, as the prime minister said the police have his full support to take action against extremists . the bbc is

against extremists. the bbc is paying against extremists. the bbc is paying for the therapy of a woman who made complaints about disgraced newsreader huw edwards, according to the sunday times. rachel became friends with him on instagram in 2018 but made complaints in 2021 and in 2022 after their relationship became , quote, toxic. it comes became, quote, toxic. it comes days after edwards pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children . the bbc has of children. the bbc has declined to comment , of children. the bbc has declined to comment, and in the us , florida is bracing itself as us, florida is bracing itself as tropical storm debbie is expected to turn into a hurricane before hitting landfall this evening. governor ron desantis has called up 3000 national guard and placed most of florida's cities and counties under emergency orders. the national hurricane centre has described it as a life threatening situation . threatening situation. >> and those are the latest gb news headlines. >> for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for

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break. welcome back. here with andrew doyle, i'm standing for in nana akua on gb news and on digital radio. six hopefuls are in the running to be the next tory leader. robert jenrick has launched his campaign and has blamed the tories election defeat on failure to deliver controlled migration and secure borders . meanwhile, dame priti

borders. meanwhile, dame priti patel has stated today that reform uk should be defeated, not appeased and she emphasised that nigel farage is a friend, but that she would not allow him to, quote, destroy the tories. very dramatic. who's going to be the next tory leader? let's ask our panel. we've got gb news, senior political commentator nigel nelson and political commentator suzanne evans. suzanne, do you have a favourite? >> i don't really know. i think they're all very good candidates, i think, i think probably it's going to be kemi. that's my gut feeling. but we shall see, >> she was overwhelmingly popular with the party membership last time and they completely went elsewhere. didn't they? >> yeah, i think they probably felt that she hadn't got enough experience at that point. but now, of course, she's done some time as a business and trade secretary, and i think she's done very well at that, who are the other candidates? well, we've got mel stride, who i think was a very good member, a chair of the treasury select committee . however, he's saying committee. however, he's saying he wants to be the unity candidate, which kind of makes me think that's not going to work, because i don't think what the party needs now is unity. i think it needs an attack dog. i

think it needs an attack dog. i think they're in opposition now. they need somebody who can really take the fight to labour. and i think kemi, at the despatch box has already shown she can do that. and of course the other thing, being a black female tory party leader will really annoy labour and i don't think there's any harm in that because, you know, they've never even had a woman leader, let alone a woman and a black leader as well. so that's another way in which i think she can wind them up and attack dog nigel. >> i mean, look, what is absolutely true about kemi badenoch is that she isn't afraid to have confrontation. she doesn't shy away from it, and she's always very well informed before she goes into a fight. so it's always good to watch. you know, it's yeah, i agree with all that. and do you think that she does now have the experience? do you think that those concerns have kind of faded away? >> well, i, you know, as you wouldn't be surprised to know i'm not a conservative party member and i don't have a vote in this particular election. i think the problem with kemi and the problem with robert jenrick is this idea that the tories must swing to the right. they've just been defeated by a left of centre party. overwhelmingly. theidea centre party. overwhelmingly. the idea they think that the

answer to this is to go further right, seems to be absolute nonsense. >> so you don't think that the voters are getting frustrated that the conservative party are no longer conservative? >> well, they rejected them so monumentally last time. and did they reject them because they were too left wing? you would have thought that's pretty unlikely. wrong suzanne. >> it's very much be more wrong. >> it's very much be more wrong. >> it's very much be more wrong. >> i disagree, mumbling over there. >> do you want to why do you think the electorate deserted them in droves, and particularly their typical support base? >> because it felt to me like 1997 all over again when the conservatives had failed so utterly and so abjectly and had become, in a sense, so complacent about their electorate. and we're doing such a bad job that people voted for tony blair, who i have to say was a much more charismatic leader, i think than than keir starmer was, which is probably why he only got 20% of the vote in real terms. if you look at the number of people who actually bothered to turn up to vote, labour only got 20% actually. but it feels like 1997. it wasn't that the tories lost the election, it was that labour won it because the tories

were so bad. well, sorry the tories did lose the election. i'm getting myself muddled up here. you know, they, they they actually caused labour to win . i actually caused labour to win. i don't think a lot of people who voted labour this time really wanted to, to be labour. i don't think they're particularly left wing. and i think you're utterly wrong that corrie's lost support because they weren't right wing enough. i think one of the things they were practically labour we've seen was the difference, nigel, that clearly from the last two results, the fact that you had tories with an 80 seat majority, this time you have labour 412 seats, but ultimately it means that all votes are always up for grabs. >> now, you can't rely on there being left wing voters and right wing voters. what we've seen very much is you've got to win the argument. don't you think, though, that someone like kemi badenoch, who is popular with the electorate, is that is that person? >> well, she's probably she may be popular with the tory party electorate. i'm not suggesting i don't think she's necessarily popular. popular with the electorate as a whole. and the point i'm making there is that if the tories carry on the infighting, and that's what happens if you have kemi badenoch and robert jenrick doing it, you're going to have a

problem. priti patel has an opportunity. if we're looking for a candidate who might break through the middle, has the opportunity of actually unifying both the right and the left and getting the votes of the membership. now, i know she had a chequered career at the home office, but at the moment, if you look at the various candidates who are there, you either go, tom tugendhat, left wing although he's leaving the echr thing is a bit odd. that's not. or you go mel stride james cleverly there safe pair of hands, then you've got pretty. you may have the attack dog that in fact that, susanna's just talking about. >> that's a good point. that nigel makes is that if priti patel does fall into that category of attack dog, insofar as, you know, she's pretty candid. >> yeah, she does, she she does actually. and i think again, she'd be a very good candidate and again, probably annoy labour for the same reasons that i said that kemi would as well. so, it's interesting. no, i'm not a member of the conservative party enhen member of the conservative party either. so i think both me and nigel are talking about things that we've not really got any skin in the game, but of course we've both got skin in the game about how our country turns out

and how it's how it's run over the next. it's not this five years and the next five years. >> we've all got skin in the game insofar as we have the future prime minister. it does affect us all, doesn't it? >> it is unlikely. and i think am. >> they probably won't go through all the way through to the next election. >> well, let's see, but i mean, i'd be very interested as well to see what you think of tom tugendhat and james cleverly as possible candidates. >> nigel, nigel said he's very left wing, so i don't think tom tugendhat would be my kind of prime minister and tory party leader, he says he's going to leave the echr. this is completely come out of the blue. this is not something he's ever said before. so i think there's himself as left wing. he wouldn't know. but i think there's a there's a huge amount of i think, cynicism about that statement among the conservative party membership as far as i can, as far as i can see. but otherwise i honestly think the others are all good candidates, really. you know, they all are. robert jenrick, i think is very sound, i think james cleverly is very sound. i campaigned with him for during the time of the eu referendum. we were both on the side of brexit. he was utterly brilliant. >> yes. i mean, this is actually good news for the tory party insofar as, you know, all of these candidates seem to have

their merits. >> oh yeah. i'm not suggesting that they don't. i just don't think that that any of them will actually go through to be the leader come the election time . leader come the election time. this is a temporary leader for the for this particular period . the for this particular period. what the tory party have to do is work out what they want to be. that's the job of the new leader. >> can i ask you as well, just the point that suzanne raised earlier, which i think is very interesting in terms of identity politics, which is something that labour like to talk about having a black woman as prime minister, as the leader of your party. it does put them streets ahead from anything that labour have ever achieved. >> yeah, i mean labour haven't had a woman yet and i think that the next leader ought to be ought to be a woman, whether that will be a black woman or an asian woman, whatever. but i think labour certainly needs a woman. and yes, you're right that the one thing the tory party have done, we've just had a prime minister of asian heritage. i mean, it should be. >> it should be on merit, obviously it should always be. and i think that's the difference actually between the conservatives and labour. >> i think labour were the ones that wanted all female shortlists. they're the ones that do it not on merit, whereas the conservatives against that

one. not not not entirely. okay. well true. but you know, i think it should it should be merit, as you say. >> we've got time for it at the moment. >> but next, the united states are set to deploy additional warships and fighter jets to the middle east. will we ever see an end to this conflict? don't go away.

welcome back. your eyes aren't deceiving you. i'm andrew doyle. i'm sitting in for nana akua. now. the united states are set to deploy additional warships and fighter jets to the middle to east assist israel's defence from potential attacks by iran and its proxies. tensions in the area are high following the assassination of hamas leader ismail haniyeh and a key hezbollah commander, the pentagon has prepared the missile defence forces for deployment, emphasising its ironclad commitment to defend israel. so are we ever going to see an end to this conflict? well, let's ask my panel. we

have gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and political commentator suzanne evans. nigel, i want to ask you about this . if hezbollah are about this. if hezbollah are involved, if the conflict with the lebanon escalates, this is very, very bad news. >> it is bad news. i mean, british citizens have been told to leave lebanon now and certainly not to travel there at the moment . certainly not to travel there at the moment. so yeah, certainly not to travel there at the moment . so yeah, the room the moment. so yeah, the room for escalation is huge. the big problem as always, and the one that israel most fears is iran. yes. so if iran comes into the war, then the whole thing really will escalate. well, they've sent missiles over towards israel before haven't they. they have. yeah. they didn't. it was a bit half hearted. >> well they were deflected. yeah. >> yeah, yeah . so, but i mean >> yeah, yeah. so, but i mean iran could still iran is the one that israel most fears. i mean , that israel most fears. i mean, israel is a bit like a house on a housing estate where all your neighbours are trying to throw bncks neighbours are trying to throw bricks through the windows. so everybody is after them. but they're particularly worried about iran, but particularly with hezbollah, because, you know, when we talk about the rockets coming over from the gaza strip, actually, in

hezbollah's case in lebanon, they have a lot more. >> there's they are much better armed. >> they're bigger, better armed, and again, thanks to iran and a much more worrying organisation so far, hezbollah have wanted to stay away from the from from the war, apart from making a, you know, a few rocket attacks or whatever. well, there were quite a few the other day. >> i think there were 50. >> i think there were 50. >> yes. i mean, this is where the escalation is coming. and so the escalation is coming. and so the danger is that israel will they've already been hit lebanon. but i mean that with this assassination. but they might hit lebanon, but it is iran, the big one. and when it comes down to the big question about america putting more hardware in the region, if that acts as a deterrent, yes, that is good. well iran has been very clear about this. >> i mean, they're saying that israel has crossed all sorts of red lines with this latest assassination. i don't know what they expected them to do, but i mean, this seems, you know, pretty par for the course during wartime. >> i mean, i think my reaction to this really is i'm quite pleased that america has suddenly again found its support for israel. there was a time i felt when the us was backing away from supporting israel, and now we have it back, front and

centre again, absolutely determined to support israel, which i think is which i think is very, very good news. i mean, joe biden was concerned about losing his support base. >> you know, when it comes to the israel question, i suppose he was. >> but whether it's a political decision or not, i personally think it's the right decision. nobody wants war, though, as well. >> i mean, the american position is still a ceasefire in gaza. release of the hostages. so that side of it hasn't changed. what they don't want is a big is a major war in the region and involving several countries. but what can happen at the moment? >> how can this be deescalated when obviously israel has to finish the job? >> yeah, it's got it's got to finish the job because if it doesn't, it's unthinkable, frankly, yes. if we have a hamas winning this war with the backing of hezbollah, with the backing of hezbollah, with the backing of hezbollah, with the backing of other rogue states in the middle east, then the world future looks very, very different. and actually very, very the solution doesn't have to be a win for either side. >> the solution has to be a ceasefire leading to a long term peace. >> but nigel, there was of those hostages. but it's finding that, isn't it? i mean, you know, hamas is committed to wiping

israel off the map. and there was a ceasefire before october. the 11th, before october the 7th last year, control of gaza at the end of all this, and at least if you've got the palestinian authority in control, they recognise israel , control, they recognise israel, israel's right to exist. >> and then we're on our way to the two state solution, which ultimately is the only way to bnng ultimately is the only way to bring peace to the area. >> what about the hamas leadership based in other countries? you know, in qatar, for instance , hamas will never for instance, hamas will never be be wiped out, but for instance, hamas will never be be wiped out , but they for instance, hamas will never be be wiped out, but they might be be wiped out, but they might be wiped out as a military force in gaza at the at the end of all this. >> either way, whatever the peace deal is for gaza, the next stage has got to to be make that ceasefire permanent and then head towards the two state solution that the west has been demanding for so long, but very troubling at the moment on that border. >> yeah. given this escalation. >> yeah. given this escalation. >> absolutely. and the thing is , >> absolutely. and the thing is, there are always going to be those rogue elements, even if there is a ceasefire and even if there is a ceasefire and even if there is a two state solution, there is a two state solution, there are going to want to keep this war going. and that's the problem. and as i've said all along, there would be a ceasefire tomorrow if those hostages were released, but they

just won't release them. >> well, that is something, isn't it? that is something that that could be done. >> yes, it is. i mean, whether or not it would work quite that way is the, the whole thing is that they have to work in tandem, quite clearly that, if israel guarantees that ceasefire guarantees, they'll move out of gaza for a set period of time. the hostages can be released, but from whatever happens, hamas cannot be in control of gaza in the future. >> okay, well, we're agreed with andrew doyle at the moment. i'm standing in for nana akua on gb news on your tv and on digital radio, and still to come, the great british debate. i'm asking who would you rather see in the white house? but first, it's the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello there , welcome to your >> hello there, welcome to your latest gb news. weather forecast from the met office. the north west south east split over the next 24 hours, turning

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before we get started, let's get the latest . news. the latest. news. >> andrew, thank you and good afternoon. >> the top stories from the gb newsroom. anti—immigration demonstrators have attacked police and smashed the windows of a hotel as unrest across the country continues. masked rioters threw lengths of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers outside a houdayinn at police officers outside a holiday inn express in rotherham. videos from social media appeared to show demonstrators storming into the hotel with reports of a fire inside. and it comes after police warned further violence was likely following protests in england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. it comes after three girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport almost a week ago. faith leaders across merseyside have released a statement this afternoon saying their murders shocked and appalled people of every faith.

they go on to say while this should be a time for quiet reflection and remembrance, since monday too many people have sought to use the tragedy to create division in hate. >> no matter what somebody's concerns are. if you pick up a brick or you pick up a bottle and you try it at a police officer, you are an idiot. end officer, you are an idiot. end of story. and unfortunately, we face yet another evening of violence when more police officers were injured, something quite dramatic is going to have to happen here because i see no sign at the moment of this unrest diminishing. in fact, i see it escalating and spreading. >> that was former scotland yard detective peter bleksley. there now, the police service in northern ireland says those involved in violence, which erupted following anti—immigration protests in belfast, will be dealt with using the full force of the law. it's after a supermarket owner in belfast says his business has

been reduced to ashes after it was targeted during the disorder. bashir said muslim businesses were deliberately targeted and has criticised police for their response to the violence. this morning, a clean up operation was underway in the donegall road area following last night's unrest. bashir was asked if he would be able to reopen. >> i don't know, you have to ask the police about that. when they stop all of all of that, then we will talk about it. and all of that happened and the police did nothing. i'm telling you the truth . what kind of police ? truth. what kind of police? letting the people to burn everything down. i don't know where is the safety in that, but this is all rubbish . this is all rubbish. >> number 10. sources are disputing claims. the keir starmer is planning a summer getaway tomorrow, despite the risk of further unrest. it comes after tory leadership candidate, former immigration minister robert jenrick , urged the prime robert jenrick, urged the prime minister to cancel his trip and get a grip on the situation.

many more arrests have been promised in the coming days, as the prime minister said the police have his full support to take action against extremists. robert jenrick says sir keir must stay and tackle the problem. >> well, look, i think it would be completely wrong for the prime minister to go on holiday whilst parts of britain are burning . this is a very serious burning. this is a very serious situation and we need the prime minister to be leading the country . we, the police, need country. we, the police, need our full support and they need to know that he is there , to know that he is there, supporting them, making sure that this situation is being handled from the very top . handled from the very top. >> sir keir starmer accused protesters of attempting to sow hate by intimidating communities. reform uk mp rupert lowe says he needs to listen to the protesters concerns . the protesters concerns. >> what we need is an honest debate. i don't have a golden bullet for years and years of the elite's mismanagement of our immigration policy, but we've got to have a frank and honest discussion about it. there isn't

always a sort of one one line answer to these things. it's extremely complex , but what we extremely complex, but what we can't go on doing is undermining the foundations of this great country and not listening to the people who are now concerned about it, because they're right to be concerned. they've got every right to be concerned about what's happening to their country . country. >> in other news now, the bbc is paying >> in other news now, the bbc is paying for the therapy of a woman who made complaints about disgraced newsreader huw edwards. >> according to the sunday times. rachel became friends with him on instagram in 2018, but she made complaints in 2021 and 2022 after their relationship became toxic . it relationship became toxic. it comes days after edwards pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children. the bbc has declined to comment and in the us , florida is bracing itself as us, florida is bracing itself as tropical storm debbie is expected to turn into a hurricane before hitting landfall this evening. governor ron desantis has called up 3000 national guard and placed most

of florida's cities and counties under emergency orders. evacuations are taking place in those counties most likely to be affected. the national hurricane centre has described it as a life threatening situation, with winds expected to build to 70mph and two metre high waves. winds expected to build to 70mph and two metre high waves . those and two metre high waves. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i am tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to gb news on your tv and on your digital radio. i'm andrew doyle, sitting in for nana akua. masked anti—immigration demonstrators have smashed windows at a houdayinn have smashed windows at a holiday inn express in rotherham, throwing pieces of wood and chairs, injuring at least one. police officer. it

follows similar protests across england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters , with police counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. the prime minister assured police of the government's full support to take all necessary action to keep our streets safe from thugs who so hate. so let's see what my panel have got to say about all of this. we have danny and christine, and we're going to start with you , danny. going to start with you, danny. thoughts on this? >> good afternoon. yeah. >> good afternoon. yeah. >> you know, driving down, it was a relief to hear gb news call the protesters anti—immigration rather than far right or right wing thugs. it's got nothing to do with right wing politics in liverpool. >> i'm a scouser by birth, and i can guarantee you the people who were rioting in liverpool are from labour households. more likely than conservative households. >> but irrespective of their politics, we have to condemn the use of violence. you know, peaceful protest is one thing, but once you're smashing up a houday but once you're smashing up a holiday inn, yeah , of course, holiday inn, yeah, of course, but i just wanted to clarify the position of this station, that they've got it right, unlike the bbc or or itv or lbc, who just

lazily label them far right, which is inaccurate and incorrect. >> this is spreading across the country, which is really worrying. and i feel so desperately sorry for the for the police officers who , you the police officers who, you know, normally run into danger and now they're being pelted by bricks. it seems to be just festering. and i think it's going to come to smaller towns, it's coming to cities. it's at cities. yes. it's in places like aldershot. it wouldn't surprise me if it went to like small towns, because people are being affected negatively. now. this is their perception about illegal immigration, that it's changing their landscape. it's making their towns unrecognisable. i use the word perception for a deliberate reason. >> so those frustrations, christine, obviously we can understand them in terms of we're dealing with people who feel as though their voices are not being heard. but surely as soon as you pick up a brick, as soon as you pick up a brick, as soon as you hit someone, as soon as you break the law in that way, you are, you have lost the argument. you have completely, gone too far. >> of course you've gone too far. what i think a lot of people forget very often is that police men and women, they are

human beings with families with feelings, with ideals and aspirations, and they daily know that they may have to face dangen that they may have to face danger. bricks goodness knows what. but they are underlyingly human beings and anybody who attacks the police in a free country is a criminal. yes, that's exactly what it is. there is no excuse. it is criminal. and the only way to deal with this is a to have an overwhelming police force. this is how we dealt with them in was it 2011? i think the right there was an overwhelming police presence and people knew they would be caught. and then they knew that they would get justice quickly. >> well, so keir starmer is what we've got to do. >> we've got to. >> we've got to. >> well, keir starmer gave a speech, obviously. he said he's going to open the courts 24 hours. he's going to deal with the people who are breaking the law. but he has been criticised within that speech, hasn't he, because it seemed to imply just tagging on to what you were saying earlier. he seemed to imply, that all of this is a big far right, that anyone who has a reservations about illegal immigration is a far right thug , immigration is a far right thug, whereas, of course, we have to make a very clear distinction,

don't we? between the people who are committing acts of violence and the people who are protesting peacefully or making their voices heard peacefully and have these same reservations? yeah. >> again, you know, the language is very important. rhetoric is important because you can fan flames, because people feel i'm going to put myself in their shoes, because i'm not in their shoes. i live in an area that hasn't been affected by, illegal immigration, but they feel that they're being silenced. and if they're being silenced. and if they raise any objection, then they're being labelled. almost some people are being called nazi. nazi scum off our streets. and i'm not on social media, but as i understand on social media, there's a hashtag that basically is just normal everyday sort of people, you know, lawyers, doctors, bus drivers, taxidermists, whatever, whatever trade you want. and they post a photograph of themselves and they do they copy in keir starmer or they put a hashtag, a far right thug. >> there you go. because they're mocking his exactly his misuse of language. >> when you're silenced and you're marginalised and you're backed into a corner, then some unhinged people react with violence. >> now, i should say that hampshire and isle of wight police and crime commissioner

donna jones has issued a statement following the removal of her statement calling for calm. this was a statement that she put up and then it was removed. it's very odd and she's clarified her position now on on the upsurge of violent protests. and this is what she says. i want to be clear that the violence that has erupted across the uk this week has been criminal, unlawful and senseless. i stand by my statement issued yesterday where i called for calm and for the country to work together to stop this mindless criminal behaviour. i fully support the police's response to stem the growth of these riots and those acting outside of the law should expect to feel the full force of it. the violence we have seen has endangered our communities and infected lawful protest on a much broader issue. as a country. this issue is something we should seek to understand without letting it divide us. i'm confident there will be a time and place for that discussion in due course. now, christine, this is slightly different from the original statement that donald jones put up where she very clearly said that your that keir starmer is effectively dealing with the symptom rather than the cause and that the, the cause here is actually a general resentment at huge degrees of illegal

immigration that are not being curbed, we don't know why she had to take that statement down and put it one with slightly different language. a lot of speculation on twitter about this, that she might have been pressured in some way or another. what do you think of it? >> well, i don't know what was in her mind when she said the first statement and why she changed it, but i think the dangeris changed it, but i think the danger is that we are beginning to tip the balance, or we're possibly at the beginning of beginning to tip the balance between order and chaos . and it between order and chaos. and it isn't far right. i am not a far right thug. i'm not even far right, for goodness sake. although a lot of people think i am, i am deeply concerned about immigration, like danny, i'm lucky enough to live in a part of the country where we're not affected by it on a day to day basis. >> but i spend enough time in cities and towns and perfectly normal , law cities and towns and perfectly normal, law abiding people are really worried about the future for their children. they're not taking to the streets, but quite a few of them will be pushed into doing that. they're not going to hurl bricks at the police, but they want to make peaceful protests. and if these riots get taken over by the far

right or the far left or whoever, well, any kind of thuggish element of any description, then it does a disservice to the vast majority of people who just want to make a protest. >> okay, we don't have any more time for this story , but we're time for this story, but we're going to move on. our british universities are becoming less popular. our student debt soars and graduate opportunities shrink. for the first time ever, the proportion of 18 year old applicants has fallen for a second year in a row. so our british universities in serious trouble. let's see. christine hamilton, i'm going to come to you first. this is bad news, isn't it? universities. >> yeah. very bad news for the universities because they're mega businesses. but i mean yes , mega businesses. but i mean yes, numbers are hugely falling, but the numbers are too great when i went to university in the excuse me, the late 60s, about 10% of people, school leavers, 10% went to university. now it's well, it's fallen, but it's, you know, knocking on to 50%. it's 41 or something. but isn't that strange? >> because there's apprenticeships, there's all the things people are suited to different things. >> people are suited to

different things. and the person who has led the way on all this, believe it or not, is you and blair. tony blair was the one who said, open the floodgates, everybody must go to university, which is ridiculous. i had free university education, but only 10% of people had university . 10% of people had university. yeah, you can't afford it. everybody. if nearly half the eligible go and the country has to pay for it . but you and blair to pay for it. but you and blair have set up this, i can't remember what it's called now, i do know, but i haven't turned the page. but never mind. he is making or will make an absolute fortune out of this because it's an apprenticeship scheme which seeks seeks to match school leavers with companies. yes, who want apprenticeship . they offer want apprenticeship. they offer apprenticeship schemes. so not everybody has to go to university. it's become de ngeun university. it's become de rigeur. you have to go and you're doing floral art and stuff like that. >> i mean, it's nothing wrong with floral art, but you don't need a degree in floral art. >> well, this is the point, isn't it? that a lot of people have been convinced that they need to go to university to get anywhere in life? actually, a lot of the people who go into other avenues end up earning a whole lot more than people who

90, whole lot more than people who go, and they don't have they're not saddled with this incredible debt. >> well, besides broadcasting, i have my own very successful business away from broadcasting and journalism. but at the age of 30, i actually stopped what i was doing and went to the university of central lancashire to train as a broadcast journalist. it cost me about four grand for the course and about six grand. this was for one year, about six grand. just living it up and renting all of that sort. of course, i was a 30 year old single lad and so i had i was saddled with all of that debt. now imagine being at university for 4 or 5 years and saddled with 40 or 50 grand. i wonder how many of our viewers and listeners have got a degree, and listeners have got a degree, and their job has absolutely nothing to do with that degree. and if you look back at it, what a waste of 4 or 5. >> well, there's a kind of snobbery about it, isn't it? because, you know, there are some people who are more academically minded and it would make complete sense for them to go to university. and the idea seemed to be that when labour were pushing this back in the day, that if you didn't go go to university, you should somehow be ashamed of that. but why? if your skill set is more in sort of different types of work, there's nothing shameful about that. >> of course there isn't. we're all different, for heaven's sake. and the euan blair's

company, by the way, i've now turned the page is called multiverse, multiverse, multiverse. and i think it's brilliant that the son of tony blair has turned his father's policy on its head and he's now making he's alleged to be even, will be even richer than his father. but it isn't just, british students. it's foreign students as well. and of course, universities rely to a very heavy degree on foreign students because whereas the british students pay whatever it is, about 9000, the foreign students pay about 9000, the foreign students pay 35. oh, yes. >> it's more than three times the amount. >> and they're down as well. so i mean, it is very bad news for the university. yeah. >> and they do need money, don't they?! >> and they do need money, don't they? i mean, ultimately they're struggling and we complain when we get given a tourist menu at a cafe in greece. >> don't we get charged more? i didn't really realise that foreign students were charged about 6 or 7 times. >> oh, they ripped off. >> oh, they ripped off. >> they really are. yeah. >> they really are. yeah. >> i mean, that's unethical, you could argue, isn't it, to charge someone foreign six times as much as someone who's because the any, as i was saying in the, in the good old days, british people who went to university, british youngsters got their fees, etc. paid for. >> so why should a foreign now they're not paying the full cost ,

they're not paying the full cost, they're not paying the full cost, they're only paying a contribution. >> it's like the tourist menu. >> it's like the tourist menu. >> it's like the tourist menu. >> i think. >> i think. >> it's not the full cost of a university education. >> do you know what? i'm not worried about the tourist money, because i think you have to make an effort to learn enough of the language to not be fooled by the tourist menu thing. >> why should the british? >> why should the british? >> a fair point, yeah. >> a fair point, yeah. >> why should the british taxpayer in any shape or form, fund the education of foreign students? >> yeah, it does kind of make sense. it sounds bad on the face of it, but it does make sense. okay, well, imagine having 30,000 extra pounds in your bank to play with this year. well, that could be yours in our latest great british giveaway as we're giving away our our biggest cash prize so far this summer. and i presume you want to be the next winner. and here's how it could be. you don't miss out on your chance to win a whopping £30,000 in tax free cash to spend however you like. >> it's extra cash that could really make a difference to your coming year. you could find yourself on that holiday you've always wanted to take. buy that treat that always seemed out of reach, or just send some of those day to day financial stresses. packing £30,000 could

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you're with andrew doyle for in nana akua on gb news, on tv and on digital radio. it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking who would you rather see in the white house? it says donald trump's son eric tells gb news ben leo that kamala harris lied to the american people. he also believes the media treat mr harris like she's, quote, walking on water. goodness me, eric trump went on to say. prince harry and meghan markle could be sent back to the uk if his dad becomes president again. so what i can tell you is my father had so much respect for the queen, as did i. >> my mom knew so many of them for years. i think you probably know that had a great relationship with diana and everyone else. and, you know, that's a very sacred kind of institution. and, you can happily have those two back. we'll happily send them back from america. you can have them back over here. but i'm not sure if you guys want them any more

than we might not want them anymore. they feel like they're on a little bit of an island of their own. but listen, you can always have bad actors in anything. you can always have, you know, spoilt apples. and in every orchard. but, the institution of the royal family is beautiful and, it's something that's really actually admired by, by a lot of americans. and, and i think that should be protected and so meghan and harry sent back. >> is that something you'd like to see, well , that's why we have to see, well, that's why we have now for the great british debate. i'm asking who would you rather see in the white house? and i'm joined by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and political commentator simon evans, and also former adviser suzanne evans and former adviser suzanne evans and former adviser to the bank of england and us political analyst roger gewolb. i'm going to start with you, roger. what do you make of those comments by eric trump? >> yeah , yes, i think they're >> yeah, yes, i think they're very apposite. >> i mean, there's no doubt that trump belongs in the white house, far ahead of kamala, who is , who was until eight minutes is, who was until eight minutes ago everybody's last choice. nobody would endorse her. she's got an abysmal record, and she's

just so unpresidential. although there is this wave now, because she would be the first woman asian, black, blah, blah , blah, asian, black, blah, blah, blah, nothing that any of those things have to do with being president, and sending harry and meghan back here. yeah. i could see the americans are probably getting pretty tired of them. >> well, i'm going to bring in now. we also have former adviser on britain to us congress , lee on britain to us congress, lee cohen. lee, can you hear me? >> indeed. i can. >> indeed. i can. >> lee, i want to ask you about this. now, roger has just made this. now, roger has just made this point that really kamala harris is running very much on an identity politics ticket. now, that didn't work out too well for hillary clinton when she tried it before. do you think that a similar thing is going to happen this time ? going to happen this time? >> well, what i think, andrew, is that biden's lack of leadership and poorjudgement has left the world a shambles. and i've just read that iran is a planning is planning to attack israel on monday , which could israel on monday, which could lead to a far more vast global engagement. america was was

prosperous in the world, far more secure under trump's leadership, and i might add, the us, uk relationship was far more important. >> america in the world need a strong, determined foreign policy leader who will not be run over roughshod by the most dangerous enemies of the west. thatis dangerous enemies of the west. that is donald trump. the last thing america and the world can afford is to have in the oval office. a radical who prioritises extreme policies over the concerns of middle america, including open borders, amnesty for illegal immigrants and significant government spending contributing to high inflation. trump must be returned in 2024 for many reasons. okay i'm going to bring nigel nelson in here. >> nigel, it is true, is it not, that kamala harris was one of the most radical, if not the most radical member of the senate, and we've had a strange kind of about face from a lot of democrats who were very, very critical of her. i mean, she had to drop out of her primary because she was so hugely unpopular, and they're now trying to elevate her as some

sort of new martin luther king figure. and they're sort of pretending that she's suddenly the most popular, the most accomplished political figure of all time. it doesn't really stack up, does it? >> well, i mean, they've got to do that. i mean, we didn't think a few weeks ago that she was going to be the candidate. so we were looking at joe biden. so i can understand the democrats needing to actually pump her up . needing to actually pump her up. trouble in the uk, as we know so little about her. she was very low profile as the veep, i mean, certainly on the foreign stage. and so we need to learn more. my preference would be, given that we've got a choice of the two of them, is kamala harris for president? because i don't want to see donald trump as president. >> suzanne, do you think that's a fair point, that actually it should be anyone but trump? >> no, i don't i think it's very interesting what we've heard. you know, eric trump talking about everyone thinks kamala harris walked on water. i think if donald trump walked on water, people would the democrats would just say he couldn't swim, i think he's absolutely right on that. i think also, it's a great

shame that kamala harris probably hasn't had a shot at being president. i think we all expected biden to fall out of the race much earlier than he actually did. and i think as vice president, she could have perhaps been given a chance before now to prove herself as president of the usa. >> and i think that would have that would be interesting because whenever kamala harris is speaking off script, i have to be honest, it doesn't come across too well. and roger, can i ask you about that? is that maybe the reason why joe biden is clinging on? i mean, a lot of commentators have said if he's if he's not, able enough to run for the election, why is he still in office at all? shouldn't he stand aside? >> i mean, this is the question that should be on everyone's lips . first that should be on everyone's lips. first of that should be on everyone's lips . first of all, that should be on everyone's lips. first of all, kamala harris, you know, was the last horse in the stable. as the series goes here. slow horses. i mean, just absolutely unqualified. nobody wanted her. but, president obama is in his third term now, and he

desperately wants a fourth term. so he was going to keep that biden cadaver standing up there until the fibres stop moving. but he ran out of road. and the democrats now, which have turned to a into just a dreadful party. are in the midst of damage limitation. and the only option they had quickly was to elevate kamala to sainthood , which they kamala to sainthood, which they knew would be hard to live with. and now she's there and, you know, she's got really no chance against trump. they can dig her up as much as they want, but i think it's all pretty. >> okay. well, let me let me ask lee about that very quickly, you know, it is the case. is it not, that kamala harris has closed the polls? it did look like for a long time, when biden was there, that donald trump had this in the bag, has this sort of wrong footed the trump campaign a little bit? might he now be regretting the choice of jd vance as his vp? >> well, andrew, the let's face

it, the democrats would have voted for an inanimate corpse , voted for an inanimate corpse, as they almost had done before. they would have chosen absolutely anything but trump . absolutely anything but trump. but i vehemently disagree with, what one of your what one of my colleagues just said, that, they didn't give her any important functions. biden gave her one very visible and important job as vp to address the underlying issues causing the immigration crisis. and he failed spectacularly. under biden and harris, there were significant increase in global illegal global crossings , 7.8 million. global crossings, 7.8 million. and that was on her watch. the one important and high profile job that she had, and she had limited engagement. her only visit to the border, which was her singular, most important job, was once during her tenure involving , and she she failed on

involving, and she she failed on engagement. she didn't prioritise the job. and the numbers were the opposite of success. they were failure. >> well, lee, i want to ask roger about that finally, because it does seem to me that, when it comes to kamala harris's record, the media are attempting to memory hole an awful lot of it. i mean, if she wins, isn't that a testament to the power of the media in terms of how they represent the candidates in an election? yeah, sure. and do you think that's the danger here? rogen think that's the danger here? roger, can i come to you on that? >> yeah, i mean, sure. i mean, they are trying to manipulate they are trying to manipulate the memory, but i mean, the border thing is what i meant when i said an abysmal record . when i said an abysmal record. it's just one of a number of things. but the real question i was about to say, andrew, that should be on everybody's lips is how can joe biden stay as head of the free world? the most powerful man in the free world, president of one of, if not the greatest country in the free

world from now until january. this is absolutely outrageous, i know that kamala would replace him and maybe that's a good thing for the trump campaign, but , you know, i thing for the trump campaign, but, you know, i think thing for the trump campaign, but , you know, i think they but, you know, i think they probably think and here's the reason why i suspect it would be worse for the country to have her running it than sleepy old joe. >> okay, well, look, that's all we've got time for in this section. you're with andrew doyle in for nana akua on gb news on tv and digital radio coming up, we're going to continue the great british debate. i'm asking, who would you rather see in the white house? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, christine hamilton and danny kelly. but first, let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon. the top stories. anti—immigration demonstrators have attacked police and smashed the windows of a hotel as unrest across the country continues. masked rioters threw lengths of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers

at police officers outside a houdayinn at police officers outside a holiday inn express in rotherham. videos appear to show demonstrators storming into the hotel, with reports of a fire. also inside. and if you're watching us on television , you watching us on television, you will see those scenes of them storming into the hotel and you'll also see pictures of two police officers coming to the aid of a fellow police officer. and they appear to be escorting her away from the scenes. and it comes after police warned further violence was likely following protesters in england and northern ireland at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters. it comes after three girls were killed in after three girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport almost a week ago. faith leaders across merseyside have called on communities to remain calm and peaceful in the aftermath of those killings in southport , which some people, southport, which some people, quote, have sought to use the tragedy to create division, division and hate . number 10

division and hate. number 10 sources are disputing claims that keir starmer is planning a summer getaway tomorrow, despite the risk of further unrest. it comes after tory leadership candidate robert jenrick urged the prime minister to cancel his trip and get a grip on the situation . many more arrests situation. many more arrests have been promised in the coming days as the prime minister said the police have his full support to take action against extremists . we can now go to the extremists. we can now go to the prime minister, sir keir starmer. he's going to give a speech to the nation. >> the police will be making arrests, individuals will be held on remand charges will follow and convictions will follow. >> i guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online. >> and then running away themselves . this >> and then running away themselves. this is not >> and then running away themselves . this is not protest . themselves. this is not protest. it is organised, violent thuggery and it has no place on

our streets or online right now. there are attacks happening on a hotel in rotherham, marauding gangs intent on law breaking or worse , windows smashed, fire set worse, windows smashed, fire set ablaze, residents and staff in absolute fear. there is no justification, none for taking this action and all right minded people should be condemning this sort of violence . people in this sort of violence. people in this country have a right to be safe . country have a right to be safe. and yet we've seen muslim communities targeted attacks on mosques, other minority communities singled out nazi salutes in the street attacks on the police, wanton violence alongside racist rhetoric. so no ,

alongside racist rhetoric. so no, i won't shy away from calling it what it is. far right thuggery to those who feel targeted because of the colour of your skin or your faith . i know how skin or your faith. i know how frightening this must be. i want you to know that this violent mob do not represent our country , mob do not represent our country, and we will bring them to justice. our police deserve our support as they tackle any and all violent disorder that flares up whatever the apparent cause or motive motivation we make no distinction. crime is crime and this government will tackle it. thank you . so two questions. rob . thank you. so two questions. rob. >> yes, we've seen, we've seen a hotel being set fire to being broken into. >> can you say that the policing operation has been a success?

>> and what more can the government do to stop this? >> well, as a government, we've had meetings all weekend , and in had meetings all weekend, and in the latter part of last week with law enforcement, with police, to make sure the necessary support and arrangements are in place. we do have standing arrangements for law enforcement, which means that we can get arrests charged , that we can get arrests charged, remanded in custody and convictions done very quickly . i convictions done very quickly. i myself was part of that in 2011 when i was director of public prosecutions and i'm determined we will do whatever it takes to bnng we will do whatever it takes to bring these thugs to justice. as quickly as possible. >> do you believe everyone is taking part in this disorder? >> is part of the far right, and does any of the scenes do any of the scenes we are seeing at the moment give you pause for thought about divisions in the country, or how you approach other broader domestic policy areas ? areas? >> if you target people because of the colour of their skin or their faith, then that is far

right and i'm prepared to say so. but it doesn't matter what apparent motivation there is, this is violence. it is not protest . it doesn't matter what protest. it doesn't matter what the motivation is , the the motivation is, the motivation for the vast majority is to see their street safe. and that's what i'm determined that we will deliver . that's what i'm determined that we will deliver. thank you, prime minister. is it possible that tougher sentences could be given out to rioters, as they were in 2011, to act as a deterrent? i think there needs to be the full force of the law, and i think it needs to be swift. what happened in 2011 was that we were able to see individuals who took part in violence arrested, charged, remanded and convicted very swiftly. standing arrangements are in place for that and we will do whatever it takes to ensure that the message is absolutely clear that if you're taking part in this violence , taking part in this violence, you will regret it and you'll be brought to justice as quickly as

possible. thank you very much . possible. thank you very much. >> okay . well that is keir >> okay. well that is keir starmer. there giving a statement about the disorder on the streets. that's occurring at the streets. that's occurring at the moment. i have my panel here with me, author and broadcaster christine hamilton and journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. danny, do you have any immediate response to what keir starmer was saying there? >> well, he's right, it is thuggery. and, you know, minority communities feel that they are being picked on. and when you're getting mosques attacked and you, you have rings of , of young attacked and you, you have rings of, of young men to defend mosques . and then there is mosques. and then there is a cultural clash here. and i think he's reluctant to talk about it. >> yeah. but i mean, surely, i mean when, when it comes to that case with southport, you know, there was evidence that there are people coming in from outside of the town who had nothing to do with the locals. i mean, the last thing the locals needed after this horrific knife attack is then to have their

buildings smashed up. and, you know, the mosque attacked. yeah. >> i was referring to a different riot where i can't remember the city or the town. maybe it was oldham, or maybe it was somewhere in lancashire. i think . yes, but so he's right think. yes, but so he's right and he needs to be really hard on these rioters because you can't go around like torching buildings, lobbing bricks at people. it has to stop. but he also has to have, you know, a conversation with people as to why they feel so angry. and this isn't a justification for violence . i'm not condoning. i'm violence. i'm not condoning. i'm condemning it. but these are young , angry condemning it. but these are young, angry people, and there are middle aged family people who are angry and, you know, there is an elephant in the room and he can't ignore it. >> is there a way, christine, that maybe that those those people who are, who do have these legitimate concerns that dannyis these legitimate concerns that danny is sort of outlining could almost take control of this situation to really distance themselves from the people who are committing acts of violence and say, no, this is a legitimate protest that we can that we can all get behind. >> well, i think it's quite difficult to distance yourself once, one of these protests gets going, it has its own momentum. i mean, to take the terrible tragedy in southport , they were

tragedy in southport, they were desperately trying to distance themselves, saying, this is not what we want. yes. do not do this in our name, as it were. so they were trying to distance themselves. i mean, i find it slightly difficult to hear what starmer was saying, but i think he kept using far right, far right, far right. surely what we need now is cohesion , need now is cohesion, leadership, not divisive rhetoric . these are criminals rhetoric. these are criminals and they are thugs. >> one of the things he said was that he doesn't. when it comes to people who attack people because of the colour of their skin or their religion, he will call them far right of course, those things have happened on the far left as well. well, precisely. >> he is determined to be divisive and tribal about it. i didn't hear him say some of them may be from the far left. >> i know he didn't say that at all. i mean that, but this is the problem, isn't it the point that when people raise these, when people do protest peacefully, they're also branded far right? yeah let me tell you so. 50. >> so. >> and i'm an everton fan and goodison park, if you're a follower of a football team who was black or if you're a player who was black, goodison park was an incredibly hostile and racist

environment. and this is in the 19805, environment. and this is in the 1980s, just as john barnes, who used to play for liverpool, who had bananas thrown on the pitch by keir starmer's logic, all of those fans were far right. yeah. and this is from a labour stronghold. this is liverpool. you can equally be racist and be a left winger and equally be racist and be a right winger. >> yes, but i mean, i would say i would say one together. >> everyone's a right winger when they're racist. i don't think he's wrong that there is a problem with the far right. >> and there's a problem with, you know, but but why this shouldn't be about that. should it really at this point, a problem with criminal thuggish behaviour. >> that's what it is. and they come from right across the spectrum. and i just think it's wrong for the new prime minister. yes. who i presume is not going to be going on holiday tomorrow. if he's not going, why doesn't he say so? by the way, why doesn't he stop all this silly speculation? just say i'm not going on holiday and off. i mean, there we are. >> it is difficult for him in a way, because he has to introduce some short term measures. one of the questions that was asked there is, are you going to implement longer sentences for these rioters? he didn't actually commit to that. well we've got i think roughly

speaking, we've got about 68,000 cases backlogged up. >> right. covid is obviously one of the major reasons for that. then there was the barristers strike. so the courts are under severe pressure already. yes, they need to put more money into they need to put more money into the legal system. i mean, i've got a lot of friends who are in various degrees of seniority in the legal profession, and they all say we cannot go on like this. we have got we need also the prisons, more judges we need. >> there's no room in the prisons for all these people. what are they going to do exactly? >> because i'm just sorry to interrupt, but yvette cooper has said we will have the prison spaces for them. he didn't say how she was going to do that. it was a couple of 24 hours ago on the telly. >> okay, well, it hasn't helped starmer as he scrapped the rwanda plan before a plane took off. lots of people were saying that there was talk in the camps of calais, that this was a deterrent. he scrapped it before a plane took off. so what you helped him. >> what you're saying is that there's a generalised feeling that that starmer and starmer's government isn't taking seriously the grievances of people when it comes to mass immigration. >> yeah . illegal mass

>> yeah. illegal mass immigration. right. rather than mass immigration, it's the illegal. it's the lads coming over on dinghies that people have got a problem with. >> okay, okay. very well. hang on a minute. >> i think people are upset about the enormous increase in legal immigrations. well, it isn't just the dinghies, but they are the worst. red rag to they are the worst. red rag to the bull. >> okay, well, you're with andrew doyle. i'm in for nana akua on gb news on tv and digital radio coming up in the next hour. our next great british debate. i'm asking what will it take to stop the protests ? interesting. are we

>> welcome back. you're with andrew doyle in for nana akua on gb news on tv and on digital radio. it's time for world view. we're going to tel aviv to speak to performer and mystifier uri geller. uri, what's on your mind? >> hey, andrew, thank you very

much for having me on your show. now, look, i have something really important to say about what's happening right now in the middle east. but before i do, allow me to just go off subject for one second, i'm actually in a counter—terror academy called calibre three near jerusalem, now in my museum nearjerusalem, now in my museum in old jaffa, there are thousands of items i've collected from famous people across my career, and i have a display dedicated to my old friend john lennon. >> now, just this week, a few days ago, i bought at auction in the uk a rare pair of john lennon's iconic round glasses. you know, you can google the story. i was incredibly excited. the glasses will be coming to my museum in tel aviv, so when you come to israel, visit. now, let me show you this photograph back to what's happening here. things are very, very tense, andrew. we're watching and we are waiting because we are about to

get hit by iran. but and i never thought i'd say this, i am shocked , andrew, and i'm ashamed shocked, andrew, and i'm ashamed about britain. your new government couldn't wait to turn its back on israel. david lammy , its back on israel. david lammy, your foreign minister, has introduced an arms embargo against israel. this is appalling and it is disgusting. you know , israel is fighting for you know, israel is fighting for its very survival. now america is sending warships, fighter planes to back us up . right now, planes to back us up. right now, they are powering their way to they are powering their way to the middle east. thanks god for america . but your left wing america. but your left wing government of imbeciles. yes, they are imbeciles. they're refusing to send things even like military radios and body armour . keir like military radios and body armour. keir starmer is stabbing us in the back, andrew. but just look at what's happening in britain. street labour has been

in power for five minutes. five minutes, and there are riots all over the country. labour can't even defend the streets of britain. i mean, you got what you voted for. here's another picture. and this is scary. this is shocking. one more thing and this is the final thing. i'll say. as i said, iran is about to attack us. hezbollah is probably going to join in. so are the houthis. no country, no country . houthis. no country, no country. andrew should wait to be attacked. i think israel should get in there first and deliver a knockout to blow all these enemies. in my view, israel should launch a pre—emptive strike against iran , blitz its strike against iran, blitz its missile bases and destroy its nuclear facilities. at the same time, it should bomb hezbollah off the face of the earth. lastly this is the this is the right of self defence, andrew. right of self—defence . and we right of self—defence. and we could be doing the whole world a

favour. listen, andrew, it was fantastic being on your show. do you have any questions to ask me? >> oh , just very quickly on >> oh, just very quickly on that, ari, because you're in tel aviv, obviously . is there aviv, obviously. is there a general sense that they think now that the escalation with hezbollah is inevitable? i mean, they've already been escalating it to a degree. is there any way that a conflict with lebanon can be avoided at this point ? be avoided at this point? >> i don't think so. in my opinion, is maybe iran will send missiles tonight or tomorrow. they might be waiting 2 or 3 days to keep us. you know, prepared. but we've got surprises. i warn iran, i warn hezbollah. you don't know what's going to happen. that's. that's all i can say. but, andrew, let's let's finalise with some positive words . i love you all. positive words. i love you all. isend positive words. i love you all. i send you positive energy from jerusalem. i'm right next to jerusalem. i'm right next to jerusalem . and, a big hug from jerusalem. and, a big hug from me. and let's pray to god that

nothing really serious will happen because that will shock the whole world. >> well, absolutely. amen to that, uri, can i ask you a different question? i introduced you, obviously as a performer and mystifier, but some people might be mystified as to what a mystifier is. what exactly does that mean ? that mean? >> look, andrew, i've been controversial all my life. people believe people don't believe. sceptics try to debunk me and so forth. now when i started off, i called myself a psychic . then i reinvented psychic. then i reinvented myself. i called myself a paranormalist. today i call myself a mystifier because look what is a mystifier? i mystify people, that's what i do. so it's on the fence. it's not here and not there. is that for okay you? >> that's that kind of makes sense. but people will be interested to know whether is there a supernatural element there a supernatural element there or is that what you're saying? there's a supernatural element to what you do or is it trickery? >> no, absolutely supernatural. listen, my first show was in 1972 on the on the bbc with

david dimbleby. i held a spoon in my hand and i looked into the camera and i shouted, everybody at home, go and get your spoons , at home, go and get your spoons, i'll burn them at home. andrew. hundreds of thousands of spoons bent all over england, and i'm going to leave you now with the bending of a spoon. watch me carefully. watch my arm, andrew. watch my arm very carefully. one, two, three. watch me bend the spoon . the spoon. >> ha ha! there, you did it. the spoon. >> ha ha! there, you did it . you >> ha ha! there, you did it. you bent the spoon in one way or another. uri geller, thanks so much for joining another. uri geller, thanks so much forjoining me. really appreciate it. >> thank you andrew. bless you. >> thank you andrew. bless you. >> okay. well we have our panel back in and we're going to be discussing our great british debate. i'm joined here by author and broadcaster christine hamilton. and i'm going to come to you first christine. our debate is on the white house. and whether we think that is kamala harris going to be a good president, is she going to win? i mean, it's the polls are closing. we thought it was a done deal. not so much anymore. right? >> i thought it was an absolute

shoo in. i still think trump will win. if i was a betting gal. absolutely i do, i mean, pamela, pamela, kamala harris, for a long time, she was just a laughing stock. she was derided amongst democrats. she was always kept under wraps because she couldn't be couldn't be put out to the public because she was so disastrous. suddenly, you know, she's the flavour of the month. she's been imposed on the democrats. they haven't really had any sort of democratic choice. she's made one amazing speech, apparently amazing in quotes. i haven't heard it. no, i haven't heard it. which is why i haven't heard it. which is why i put it in quotes. but apparently everybody's lauding whatever her speech was. but that's you know, one swallow doesn't make a christmas, as it were, or a summer , i don't think were, or a summer, i don't think that will be enough . and she's that will be enough. and she's having a tremendous bounce, obviously. >> yeah. well let's just finally, just quickly bring in danny kelly, broadcaster and journalist. do you think kamala harris has a chance? >> i do think she has a chance. it's going to be an interesting debate on fox. i think in september. and i think trump won't have an easy ride there. she's an articulate woman and

she's lucid more importantly, or more worryingly for the donald trump camp, is she that articulate though? >> i mean, she she's a i mean compared to buy or whatever the new yorker, the equivalent of a barrister is i mean, you've got to be intelligent and articulate if you're a public prosecutor or a public defender. >> so it's going to be really interesting. i don't think trump will will have a lot. >> i'm afraid we do. we are short of time in this section. you're with andrew doyle in for nana akua on gb news on your tv and on digital radio. still to come, i'll be speaking to a reality star and former big brother contestant and coming up in the great british debate i'm asking what will it take to stop the protests? but first it's time for the . weather. time for the. weather. >> and a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb. news on. gb. news >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast

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>> hello and welcome to gb news on your tv and on your digital radio. i'm andrew doyle, i'm standing in for nana akua coming up today on outside i'll be chatting highs and lows with reality star and former big brother contestant and for the great british debate this hour, i am asking what will it take to stop the protests? it has masked anti—immigration demonstrators smashed windows of a hotel in rotherham. police are warning of further violence across protests in england and northern ireland. but first, let's get the latest . news. >> andrew thank you. the top stories. while the prime minister has described the scenes of violent protest across the country as far right thuggery, and he's vowed to bnng thuggery, and he's vowed to bring those involved to justice.

it comes as anti—immigration demonstrators attacked police and smashed the windows of a hotel in rotherham. masked rioters threw lengths of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers. it comes after police warned further violence was likely following protests in england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. it comes after three little girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport almost a week ago. sir keir says those causing violent trouble will face convictions . trouble will face convictions. >> i won't shy away from calling it what it is far right thuggery. to those who feel targeted because of the colour of your skin or your faith , i of your skin or your faith, i know how frightening this must be. i want you to know that this violent mob do not represent our

country, and we will bring them to justice. >> news. just in this hour, mosques are being offered greater protection with new emergency security that can be rapidly deployed under new arrangements announced by the home secretary today. and that as the police service in northern ireland says, those involved in violence which erupted following anti—immigration protests in belfast will be dealt with using the full force of the law. it's after a supermarket owner in belfast says his business has been reduced to ashes after it was targeted during the disorder. bashir said muslim businesses were deliberately targeted and has criticised police for their response to the violence. this morning, a clean up operation was underway in the donegall road area following last night's unrest, which lasted several hours. bashir was asked if he would be able to reopen. >> i don't know, you have to ask the police about that. >> when they stop all of all of that, then we will talk about it and all of that happened and the

police did nothing. i'm telling you, the truth . what kind of you, the truth. what kind of police? letting the people to burn everything down. i don't know where is the safety in that. this is all rubbish. >> number 10. sources are disputing claims that sir keir starmer is planning a summer getaway tomorrow, despite the risk of further unrest. it comes after tory leadership candidate, former immigration minister robert jenrick, urged the prime minister to cancel his trip and get a grip on the situation. many more arrests have been promised in the coming days, as the prime minister said the police have his full support to take action against extremists. robert jenrick says the keir must stay and tackle the problem . must stay and tackle the problem. >> well, look, i think it would be completely wrong for the prime minister to go on holiday whilst parts of britain are burning. this is a very serious situation and we need the prime minister to be leading the country. we, the police, need our full support and they need to know that he is there

supporting them , making sure supporting them, making sure that this situation is being handled from the very top. >> the prime minister has accused protesters of attempting to sow hate by intimidating communities. reform uk mp rupert lowe says he needs to listen to the protesters concerns. >> what we need is an honest debate. i don't have a golden bullet for years and years of the elite's mismanagement of our of our immigration policy, but we've got to have a frank and honest discussion about it. there isn't always a sort of one one line answer to these things. it's extremely complex, but what we can't go on doing is undermining the foundations of this great country. and not listening to the people who are now concerned about it, because they're right to be concerned. they've got every right to be concerned about what's happening to their country . to their country. >> and in other news today, the bbc is paying for the therapy of a woman who made complaints about former newsreader disgraced newsreader huw edwards. according to the sunday times, rachel became friends with him on instagram in 2018,

but she made complaints in 2021 and in 2022 after their relationship became, quote, toxic. it comes days after edwards pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children. the bbc has declined to comment . and bbc has declined to comment. and in the us , florida is bracing in the us, florida is bracing itself as tropical storm debbie is expected to turn into a hurricane before hitting landfall. this evening. governor ron desantis has called up 3000 national guard and placed most of florida's cities and counties under emergency orders. evacuations are currently taking place in those counties most likely to be affected. the national hurricane centre has described it as a life threatening situation, with winds expected to build up to 70mph and two metre high waves. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez . more from me in half an sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com

>> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello. welcome back. i'm andrew doyle. i'm sitting in for nana akua live across the united kingdom on gb news. every sunday on this show at 5:00 nana is usually joined by a celebrity, a former mp, or someone who's had an extremely interesting career to take a look at. life after the job. so we normally talk about the highs and lows, the lessons learned, what comes next on the outside and this week the guest is an extremely successful businesswoman and reality star whose breakthrough moment came in 2006 when she entered the british reality television show big brother. she finished in third place, cementing her status as one of the most memorable contestants in the show's history. did you guess who it was? yes, i'm joined today by reality star and businesswoman ashlynn horgan—wallace. ashlynn, thank you so much forjoining me today. that's okay.

>> can i it's nice to be here. >> i want to go back right to the start. before you went on to big brother, before all this happened to you, you actually spent some time homeless. >> yeah, i was homeless from 15. i had to leave home, slept a night on a park bench. >> was in hostels. really like precarious hostels , and just had precarious hostels, and just had a really, really rough time in my teens. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> when did it from ? from there. >> when did it from? from there. because when how long was it before you went on to big brother? oh well, i didn't do big brother until i was like 26, but i was determined i had i had the thought in my mind that i was going to get off the streets and have a good life for myself , and have a good life for myself, one way or the other. so can i ask about that? must have been going through your mind when you appued going through your mind when you applied to big brother. what made you want to actually go onto this show? >> to be honest, i didn't apply to column. you didn't brother? no. so my friend called me up. i was really hung over. we'd been out the night before and she wanted to do the big brother auditions with me. okay. god's honest truth. and, she rang me up and i said, oh, no, my head. no, my head's i'm hanging. no, i'm not coming. yeah, she called

back 20 minutes later. she was like, please, it's the last day. i said, look, if you get your flatmate to come and pick me up in the car, i'll come. >> so she wanted some support. she wanted someone to come along and sort of help her to go on the show. yeah. >> the friendship kind of was. >> the friendship kind of was. >> but then you got it. >> but then you got it. >> yeah. sorry about that. are you still friends. >> oh, okay. let's not go into that. that's probably a bit awkward, but i'm very interested about it because presumably you knew the show. you knew of the show. you seen the show? >> yeah. yeah. okay. >> yeah. yeah. okay. >> yeah. yeah. okay. >> yeah. so you knew kind of what to expect? >> yeah, i used to watch it, andrew, and think, oh, god, look at these pathetic people. like crying. they haven't had a hard life. i've had a tough life. i'd go on that show, i wouldn't be crying. sure enough, got in the doonl crying. sure enough, got in the door. i was crying every two minutes. i was devastated. it was such an emotional, minutes. i was devastated. it was such an emotional , torment was such an emotional, torment tormenting show. >> is that because when you're in there? because i'd be quite interested to understand how it feels to be in there, because i think i would be supremely conscious of the cameras everywhere. but is it true that you sort of forget ? you sort of forget? >> honestly, you really do. like only if you hear them whizz and then you're like, oh my god, oh

yeah, we're being filmed . yeah, we're being filmed. >> like, aren't they plying you with alcohol and all sorts of things. yeah, loads of alcohol. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> to try and make you say something a little bit embarrassing. >> yeah. oh yeah. i said a lot of embarrassing things like, yeah, you wake up with the fear. imagine waking up with the fear on a normal day. yeah. but then to wake up with the fear, knowing that anyone who's watched you, anyone would say something over a period of a few weeks, you're going to say, honey, i was in there for three months. were you? yes. >> oh my goodness. well, you're bound to say something that you would regret. regret. but this time the cameras are on you. and i think this was at the time when big brother were transmitting all through the night. >> people could forjust hours. >> people could for just hours. >> people could for just hours. >> my nan used to watch me fall out of bed. really? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> just a lot, like, warts and all. and that's the difference with reality tv now. i think it's so sterile now. i wouldn't even call it reality tv compared to what i did. >> okay, well, let me ask you about that because back then there were very few safeguards. isuppose there were very few safeguards. i suppose they sort of in fact, there were a lot of debates aboutis there were a lot of debates about is this exploitative? you know, you're putting people on air who aren't used to being on tv. they don't really know all

the rules about what's going to happen. do you? did you share any of those concerns? >> so i didn't, because big brother completely changed my life and i was over the moon. but but i had a lot of people writing letters to me back then, because that was back in the old days. we didn't have like instagram and stuff like that, saying, oh, i should sue them. and like the torment that i was put through mentally and emotionally. but for me, what i'd already been through in life from the age of 15 onwards was so tormenting that even though, yeah, i did cry nearly every day in big brother, it it was it was a journey and it was a self—discovery journey. and it wasn't as bad as what i'd already been through. >> but you say you were crying every day, but was that because of what was going on in the house, or would that have been the case outside of the house anyway? >> no, i wouldn't cry every day outside. >> it was no, you must have tough cookie. >> it must have been then that you felt to a degree you were being exploited, or to a degree you were. this was a tough ordeal. >> it was just a tough ordeal. i don't think i was being exploited. i think, you know, back then you signed up and you

knew that, you know, they'd make a character out of who you were in the editing, you mean? >> yeah. right >> yeah. right >> but they can only edit who you are. so if you know you're having a bad day and you're mean to someone, they're going to put that in the edit and it's just the truth. >> but you got a lot out of it. i mean, i think that's fair to say that you this was a key moment in your life. some people don't, though. i mean, for some people it can be actually utterly disastrous. yeah. so do you have some sympathy for where they're coming from? >> i do, but i went in there with the expectations of i mean, i didn't even there was one point where i said, oh no, i don't know. i've got, i've got a big deal, i'm modelling thing that well, it was like five grand. like, i don't know if i want to go on this tv show, but i'm so glad that i did. but for others, it didn't work out, it's a bit of a gamble, right? yeah, i think because i went in there with no expectations. i didn't think, oh, i'm going to be the next, you know, madonna, when i come out of this house, i just thought i'd, i'd rinse it for all i could. yeah, yeah. and then 18 years later, i'm still getting asked to do work. so it's a win win. so for me, but

for others it hasn't been. >> so what are the key benefits after you come out of the big brother house? how has it changed your life? >> well, back then we were on the front page of every newspaper all the time. even when we were in the house. so that took you all across the uk. so people that didn't even watch the show would would have to read about you, because it was a bigger deal back then than the later series. i mean, i think my, closing night, my eviction night got 7 million views. and if you compare that to like love island , latest one got 1 million island, latest one got 1 million views. so it's a big deal back then, to change my life, it just it just i did one photo shoot and bought my first flat off that. so. >> yes. really very positive . >> yes. really very positive. >> yes. really very positive. >> big deal. yeah. >> big deal. yeah. >> then don't you have to adjust to being recognised? i mean if you, if you're. >> oh i loved it. >> oh i loved it. >> oh i loved it. >> oh you were fine with that. >> oh you were fine with that. >> i still love it. >> i still love it. >> okay, okay. no. yeah. >> okay, okay. no. yeah. >> well you wouldn't go on the show. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you wouldn't go on the show if you weren't. okay. >> i think because of my family issues and, like, just seeking acceptance. yeah. and then coming out and having so much love and acceptance. i mean, i

never got anyone confront me in a negative way. yes. so i think that's probably what i was seeking, some kind of validation. so i absolutely lapped it up. fair enough. i was shocked though. i felt like madonna coming out of there. i was like, go to my usual nightclubs and haunts i went to, and all of a sudden everyone wanted pictures with me. i was like, what is going on? so would you have any advice to people who find themselves in the pubuc who find themselves in the public eye? >> it's quite easy these days when people end up on reality tv or not even reality tv, just they end up known for whatever instagram or social media or whatever it is. do you have any advice for those people, >> just don't don't think that this is going to be the be all and end all to your life. always have a back up plan. yes, invest your money and just be yourself. i know it's a cliche and corny, but you just have to be yourself and if people feed into that and like that, then you're going to go far. but these reality stars these days, they don't really last that long. >> no they don't. >> no they don't. >> but of course you've gone into other avenues in business and that kind of thing. so what are your future plans now at this point? >> future plans? i'm i've got someone looking at property for

me. i mean, it's got to the stage now where i just send my advisor to look at properties. i'm very lucky. like, you can't imagine going from sleeping on a park bench to have someone go and look at properties and you're not even see it and buy it . so i'm just very, very, very grateful. >> yeah, very, very interesting experience you've had. ashley, thanks so much forjoining us on the show. really appreciate it. now we're going to go over the pond. we're going to go to america. of course, we're going to speak to the host of the politics people podcast, and that's paul duddridge. paul, are you there ? you there? >> i am here, how are you doing? >> i am here, how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. i wanted to just ask you about a topic we were talking about earlier, which is about who's going to be in the white house after the election. do you have any feeling? i mean, kamala harris has closed the polls, hasn't she?i has closed the polls, hasn't she? i mean, do you think this looks like it could be her year? >> she has closed the polls ? >> she has closed the polls? you're absolutely right. it's. it was trump. trump trump right up a couple of days ago. and now the polls have tightened. >> i've said it before. >> i've said it before. >> i've said it before. >> i think that they've picked the one candidate that trump can beat.i the one candidate that trump can beat. i think the democrats have

picked the wrong one here. this is feeling very hillary clinton. i think there's a lot of froth going on. >> this is feeling very 2016. there's a lot of froth. there's a lot of froufrou. there's not a lot of change in substance. >> the fact of the matter is that when they actually finally debate, we might start seeing some of the issues with kamala as a candidate. i do believe what you were touching on earlier, the reason she was actually selected is the word is, is that biden didn't want to go and in his resignation statement, he didn't mention who the next candidate would be. okay. >> and as a kind of retaliation to the dems for ousting him, he then tweeted that he was endorsing kamala about ten minutes later. and i think they've been left with a bit of a stick here. >> i think they've been left holding this baby and they're throwing everything at it . the throwing everything at it. the election is obviously going to be decided by the swing states, and that's going to be pennsylvania is probably the most important of the swing states that needs to be won. >> and that's probably why her

vp will be the governor, josh shapiro. >> but i actually think trump i think trump is going to win. and i didn't until they picked kamala. i thought that biden would still come through, but i think they've picked the one candidate that he can beat and now we were talking earlier to roger gewolb, who made the point that we should be asking the question , why is it that joe question, why is it that joe biden is still in the oval office if he's not fit enough to run for the election? >> is he really fit enough to be president? >> look, that's such an obvious question, isn't it? how can it be that he was sharp as a tack and is now still the most powerful man in the world until january next year ? the reason january next year? the reason being, again, part of the, part of the allegation, part of the rumour is that, look, we will let you. >> this was his own party. >> this was his own party. >> if you don't resign. if you don't resign, this campaign, we will invoke the 25th amendment, which is president, unfit for office. >> so the deal is you can leave with your dignity and complete your term.

>> that's the deal that he is, that he is living under and that's why we still have a person that cannot campaign, that has to drop out of a campaign, but can run the western world, apparently. >> of course, we should say that is speculation. we have no evidence that that was the case. this is what we assume is going on there. okay, but let me ask you more about cate hollis rumours. okay. fair enough. well, let me ask you a bit more about kamala harris, insofar as when she she wasn't a popular candidate, even amongst democrats, she did have to drop out early from her primary in 2020 because she was underperforming and didn't want the humiliation of receiving basically no votes. so what makes the democrats think that they can just metamorphosize metamorphosize this, this, this individual into this heroic, charismatic leadership figure when really even on the democrat side, they didn't have this sense of her just, what, ten minutes ago? >> absolutely right. look, they're garnering the not—trump vote. >> that's what they're running on. they're desperately trying to present her as walking on

water, as one of your contributors described earlier. >> but it is this is running on all the anti—trump. >> this is why tightening the polls isn't that impressive. >> you remember hillary on the day of the election in 2016 , was day of the election in 2016, was at 72% to win 72 to 28. now they're at like 50, 50, 49, 49 with some error of judgement. it's the very fact that she's only level with him is the panic with the democrats. >> it's like she should be 1015 points ahead because of her own innate popularity. >> and she isn't. and that's the that's the issue that they have. >> okay . paul duddridge, host of >> okay. paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, thanks so much forjoining us. really appreciate it. next, it's the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, what will take to stop these this is

gb news. welcome back. you're with andrew doyle. i'm sitting for in nana akua on gb news, on tv and on digital radio. so it's time for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, what will it take to stop the protests? sir keir starmer says if you're taking part in violence on our streets, you'll regret it and face justice. it says masked anti—immigration demonstrators have smashed windows at a houdayinn have smashed windows at a holiday inn express in rotherham, throwing pieces of wood and chairs , injuring at wood and chairs, injuring at least one police officer. it follows similar protests across england and northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. so for the great british debate, i'm asking what will it take to stop these protests? and joining me now to discuss this is former leader of ukip, neil hamilton. we have chief operating officer, conservative friends of the commonwealth, sunil sharma with me in the studio. and last but not least, we're joined by former labour mp stephen pound.

so i'm going, sunil, since you're here, i want to ask you first, how can we stop this? because it looks like it's spiralling out of control. it's escalating from city to city. what do we do? >> i think the way to stop this is to start to actually ask the question, why? why are these riots happening? we should obviously condemn them. >> we should condemn people attacking police officers, setting them, setting things on fire. >> but we need to ask the question is what has happened to this country that a large group of people feel silenced? they cannot speak. they cannot speak about the problems of mass immigration. and when you do, you're labelled even people on the right or left, you know, your common sense, people who want to have these discussions. you're labelled as a far right person. now we're actually seeing the real far right in this country rising. and the reason for that is they've been silenced for a long time. we ignore the fact that 80% of this country is actually white. we are constantly, not prepared to ask deeper level questions when blm riots happen in 2020, the media coverage, the social media coverage was all asking the question why? why do black people feel the way they feel in this country, in america? but no one seems to be prepared to ask

these questions towards these group of people. instead, they want to put them all in a box of crazy white edl far right people, rather than actually sitting and saying, what has happened to this country? will sir keir starmer actually wake up and actually do something to this, or will we turn into france where this is just going to keep on happening on a regular basis? so i think to stop these riots, we need to have a much more serious conversation about what how to stop crime in this country, how to stop certain, ethnic groups getting a, getting almost getting a, getting almost getting an advantage in terms of not being prosecuted by the police. we saw it in rotherham with those with those young girls who are getting exploited. we need to have some serious questions about this. until then, i don't think the riots will stop any time soon. >> i want to bring in stephen pound here, just off the back of what sunil was saying there. and, you know, he's alluding there to this idea of two tier policing. you know, we saw that keir starmer had a very robust statement about the far right when these riots kicked off. but with harehills the other week, there was a cursory remark about it really not on the same level . it really not on the same level. is it the case, do you think

that the police are being trained to prioritise what they call community cohesion over simply applying the law equally to everyone? >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> look, rotherham , rochdale, >> look, rotherham, rochdale, those horrors, that was a long time ago. we've learned a hell of a lot since then. >> we've learned from mps like sarah champion, the mp for rotherham, who was actually, you know, reviled at the time for making the comments about the asian grooming gangs. we've learned a lot. we learned that this two tier policing that possibly may have existed for maybe good reasons is out the window. now, look, we can't with the best will in the world. we cannot sit down and indulge in a months worth of navel gazing. now, while the streets are burning and while police officers, police officers, men and women are being brutalised and women are being brutalised and beaten, we simply do not have the time nor the luxury to actually sit down and start going to some great long analysis about where we are as a nafion analysis about where we are as a nation right now. we have to bang these people up, do it sharpish, and above all, we have to enforce the law . you cannot to enforce the law. you cannot wander around the streets of our country masked , causing mayhem country masked, causing mayhem and expect to get away with it. so if keir starmer is robust, i

have to say i'm robust on steroids when it comes to this. >> okay. stephen porter, i mean , >> okay. stephen porter, i mean, obviously everyone agrees that anyone committing acts of or criminal acts should be prosecuted. that's, that's that's sort of a given . but do that's sort of a given. but do you take the point that once these people are dealt with robustly, there is a conversation that must be have about the at least the perception that is that there is two tiered policing going on? do you think there's any merit in that, stephen, that conversation takes place all the time. >> i mean, i spent a great deal of time in northern ireland and very often, you know, i set out to interview people, you know, who had been rioting. and when i used to say to try to drill down and say, what exactly has brought you here, you know, what is it? economic reasons. and a number of people said, look, it's exciting. we used to call it's exciting. we used to call it recreational rioting. there are a number of people, and it's not detracting from the genuine, visceral anger that exists in this country. but there are still a number of people who think this is a damn good night out to have a bash at the plot and to actually get get lagered up and start being a being a star on social media. there are some people who actually think there's such a thing. god help

us. as recreational rioting. we've got to separate them out from the people that have been talked about. we've only been mentioned this afternoon who have a real, genuine underlying disconnect from the rest of society and the rest of the society and the rest of the society have a duty to reach out and bring them in, because we cannot have a good country for any of us to live in. and this is a good country for all of us to live in. >> neil hamilton, i want to bnng >> neil hamilton, i want to bring you in on this. do you think that stephen pound has a point, that a lot of this is pure opportunism from what keir starmer has described as far right thugs? >> well, i think he's deluding himself, sadly, this was entirely predictable and indeed predicted as far back as 1968, when enoch powell made his famous so—called rivers of blood speech. if you conduct a kind of laboratory experiment with the british people by imposing mass immigration upon them for which nobody explicitly voted, this is ultimately going to happen. at some stage. we have had a massive change in the structure of the population of the united kingdom in the last 30 years, when tony blair opened the

floodgates in 2004 to allow mass migration from eastern europe, that was merely the start of what has now become mass migration from other parts of the world. we added three quarters of a million people to our population last year in one year alone. so the social and racial and other ethnic composition of our population is completely changed in a very, very short time. that inevitably is going to destabilise the country. you can deal with the violent disorder with effective policing, of course , and no policing, of course, and no doubt that will be dealt with. but that isn't going to stop the process. and we've seen this, of course, throughout the whole of western europe and the elites have tried to pretend that their policy of mass multiculturalism, which nobody wants and nobody voted for, can be, surreptitiously imposed upon a nafion surreptitiously imposed upon a nation . but that isn't going to nation. but that isn't going to succeed. and this is merely, i think, a foretaste of what is to come if political elites don't wake up. i mean, starmer, of

course, exemplifies the condescending political elite who has absolutely no interest in the fears and resentments of ordinary people, especially if they're white and working class. labour party has completely lost touch with its original roots and is now effectively an identity politics party. although it's come back to bite him on the bum, isn't it? because in various parts of the country now, labour mps are being defeated by people who are even more extreme. >> but neil, neil, there are ways to protest peacefully against this kind of thing without trashing hotels and setting fire to police cars. i mean, surely these protesters are completely undermining some of the grievances that you've laid out there. if all they can do is riot ? do is riot? >> of course i'm condoning writing. of course, violent disorder must be suppressed and it will be suppressed . that's it will be suppressed. that's the least of the of the problems. in a way that's the simplest problem to solve. it's really what i mean. what what we do need to solve is, you know , do need to solve is, you know, the one. >> okay. very, very quickly, neil, i just want to finally

bnngin neil, i just want to finally bring in sunil on this. do you have any reactions to anything you've heard there from either stephen or neil? >> yeah, i think stephen needs to maybe look, wake up to the reality of what's going on in this country. two tier policing exists. we're seeing it wherever and not just two tier policing. we're seeing it with authorities. we're seeing it at government level. people are not prepared to talk about the issues of mass immigration. neil correctly points out the changes. before tony blair, we were around 10 to 20,000 people coming into this country. we're now talking hundreds of thousands. it's unsustainable. it's not going to work if you keep silencing people like that. this is the outcome . these riots this is the outcome. these riots are just the beginning. we should obviously condemn them. we should condemn some of the violent stuff that they're doing. but at the end of the day, until we actually allow this conversation to happen, until we stop labelling logical, common sense, rational people who want to have these discussions, if we keep labelling them as far right, this is just going to carry on. so i think we need a much more open and honest conversation. >> well, i wish we had more time, but unfortunately we are out of time. thank you ever so much to all my guests for joining me for this discussion.

you're with andrew doyle. i'm sitting in for nana akua on gb news on tv and digital radio coming up, we're going to continue our great british debate. i'm asking, what will it take to stop the protests? but first it's the latest news headlines. >> andrew, thank you and good afternoon. and as you've been hearing, the prime minister has described the scenes of violent protests across the country as far right thuggery. and he's vowed to bring those who are involved to justice. it comes as anti—immigration demonstrators attacked police and smashed the windows of a hotel in rotherham. masked rioters threw lengths of wood and sprayed fire extinguishers at police officers. police have warned further violence was likely following protests in england and in northern ireland. at least 90 people were arrested yesterday amid clashes between demonstrators and counter—protesters, with police officers attacked and injured. it comes after three little girls were killed in a knife attack at a dance club in southport, almost one week ago. sir keir starmer says those

causing violent trouble will face convictions . face convictions. >> i won't shy away from calling it what it is far right thuggery. to those who feel targeted because of the colour of your skin or your faith , i of your skin or your faith, i know how frightening this must be. i want you to know that this violent mob do not represent our country, and we will bring them to justice. >> the bbc is paying for therapy of a woman who made complaints about disgraced newsreader huw edwards. according to the sunday times, rachel became friends with him on instagram in 2018 but made complaints in 2021 and in 2022 after their relationship became toxic. it comes days after edwards pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children. the bbc has declined to comment . and in the us, to comment. and in the us, florida is bracing itself as

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welcome back. i'm andrew doyle in for nana akua . this is gb in for nana akua. this is gb news on your tv and your digital radio. so it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, what will it take to stop the protests at least 147 arrests have now been made after protest this weekend, and prime minister sir keir starmer says if you're taking part in violence on our streets, you'll regret it and face justice. he's pledged to, quote, do whatever it takes to bring these thugs to justice as quickly as possible. amid the violence which has spread since the southport stabbings. so for the great british debate, i'm asking what will it take to stop these protests? let's see what my panel make of that. so i have

here christine and danny. welcome back. danny, i'm going to come to you first because this hasn't happened in a vacuum. of course, it's not just about the southport stabbing. we've also had, of course, the incident at manchester airport, a perception that two tier policing is taking place. do you think there's anything in that? >> i think that the reality of that perception is more than a perception . i think the perception. i think the manchester airport, as i understand those two lads who were assaulted and who assaulted the police and it's a live case, but there have been no charges brought and i can only imagine that if i assaulted a copper at manchester airport, i think i'd have had a charge. well you'd be lucky not to be shot, frankly. yeah. that's right. they were fortunate. so? so that only adds fuel to the fire of two tier policing because people are saying, hang on, how come they haven't been charged? the whole world has seen them. that woman get get knocked on the nose and a bus knows. why have they been charged? >> christine, can i ask you about this? because i spoke to a labour and former labour mp, stephen pound. earlier. he was saying that there is no such thing as two tier policing at the moment, that there was maybe

back in the day when we had the grooming gang scandal. but that doesn't that lessons have been learned. we've moved on from that. do you believe that? >> well, i hope lessons have been learned because the grooming scandal was really was a scandal with a capital s? i mean, it was appalling. those they got away with it for far longer than they should have done because the police didn't dare name them because they were fearing race riots , because they fearing race riots, because they were asian, which is not the way that this country should be policed, is it? >> that is it still the case that that's going on, though, do you think? i mean? >> well, i think as danny has just said, the evidence is that, yes, it is. i mean, let's keir starmer says that that this will be stamped upon and everybody will be brought to justice. let's see what happens. let's give him the benefit of the doubt. we want him to succeed. we all need him to succeed. for heaven's sake, bring them all to justice. but i mean, going back to a slightly different issue, when we had the business in bristol of the colston statue being thrown into the harbour, nobody got a fine, nobody got anything, because the jury said not guilty. i mean, we've all saw them do it. now, if that isn't two tier justice, i don't

know what is. we've also you or ishoved know what is. we've also you or i shoved a statue into bristol harbour. we would have been jammed up. >> christine, i think we should do that as an experiment. let's go out and find a statue and do it. yeah, i think i'd love to do that with you, christine. i think you know what what we're heading for is. >> i mean, i remember well the winter of discontent in 1979. we are, i think, heading for a long, hot summer of discontent. >> yeah, but this is. long, hot summer of discontent. >> yeah, but this is . we're >> yeah, but this is. we're seeing it, aren't we? i mean, can i ask you, danny? we've also seen it on the pro—palestine marches in london, where we even saw at one point hizbut tahrir, a group that has now been outlawed in the uk, was outlawed in most arab states. yeah. calling for jihad in most arab states. yeah. calling forjihad on the streets calling for jihad on the streets of london, the police doing absolutely nothing about it. yeah. if that's not two tier policing, what is. >> well, maybe we don't know. maybe they've had their doors put in at four in the morning. it's a containment issue for the police when there's hundreds of thousands of people marching, whether to actually lift them out. you see, you do run the risk of actually of inflaming a situation which could then result in violence. maybe they've been lifted after that. >> but then similarly with harehills , we saw police running harehills, we saw police running away from the situation. so maybe a lot of stuff is going on

that we're not seeing. >> yeah, but they were i don't think they were in their riot geah think they were in their riot gear. were they weren't they just normal plod in their uniforms. so is that the problem? >> christine? we're not just we're just not seeing what they're doing. >> well, i think social media has got got a lot to answer because they highlight the things that they want to highlight. but i think to go back to the police, i can't now remember the statistic, but well over a third of the police have got less than four years experience. so there are some extremely inexperienced police out there who have never, ever experienced even a minor little riot. suddenly they find themselves and there was something on the television the other day, there was a young police woman who couldn't have been more than five foot four or something, and she was confronting somebody of danny's size. yes. and she was shouting in his face. i thought, well, good for you, mate. she hadn't got a riot shield on or anything. it's, you know, it's not sensible. you know, there are there are those concerns, aren't there, when the crowd is so large and, you know, obviously they're there to keep the peace as well. >> so i do appreciate all of that situation. but ultimately, danny, we have to be applying the law equally irrespective of skin colour, irrespective of

religion, whatever. you know, that's what's got to happen. >> i tell you what, mother nature may help out the police because there's 18 hours of thunderstorms coming . and if you thunderstorms coming. and if you ask any old bill when there's a pubuc ask any old bill when there's a public situation, they pray for inclement weather. yeah. and there's 18 hours of thunder and lightning. >> let's have the water cannon on. >> on. >> yeah, on mainland britain. on blimey. >> not blimey, let's not do that. okay well, look, the show is nothing without you and your views . let's welcome some of our views. let's welcome some of our great british voices this is your opportunity to be on the show and tell us what you really think about the topics we're discussing. so today i'm joined by four of my great british voices. let's start with lee webb from bedfordshire. lee, you've been listening to our debate . oh, what do you think we debate. oh, what do you think we can do to make the protests stop? >> right. i think what, keir starmer is do, for a start, is listen to the concerns of the white working class. now, this is happening in quite a lot of northern towns at the moment, not so much the southern towns. and what we've got to remember, the northern, the working class

up north, they've lost industry after industry after industry , after industry after industry, >> then places are being decimated. they're quite poor areas as well. so what do we do with a poor area? we put loads of asylum seekers in there. we've also nothing to do. and you wonder why at the moment it's all a tinderbox. and i think keir starmer needs to listen to those concerns. stop calling them far right, there are some far right elements in there, but most of them aren't far right. they're working class people who have got concerns about immigration, no jobs. their industry has been decimated. there's no shipbuilding there anymore. there's no coal mines open there anymore. you know, there's just no industry . and what's it been no industry. and what's it been replaced with? supermarket warehouses . and that's what warehouses. and that's what these white working class males now are doing . and, i think now are doing. and, i think that's where we've got to go is understand the concerns. >> okay. lee, thanks very much for your thoughts there. and we're going to move on now to alan cook who is in london. alan, can you tell us what you think we can do to stop these protests? >> hi there. andrew. sorry i

haven't been in the studio for your free speech nation recently, but i've had an election to fight, starmer. well, he's a fool. he's naive beyond belief. you know, in his speech, he's just said. he said if you make people feel unsafe due to their colour or religion, you are far right. but what about the jewish in london? how how many months have they felt unsafe in the streets of london due to the hate marches, and nothing has been done by the police? no 24 hour courts for them. so he's a hypocrite, he's divisive and he's wrong. you know, you can only push people so far and eventually they will crack . we've been promised, crack. we've been promised, immigration levels in the tens of thousands, you know, election after election, after election by the last government. and it's just lies, lies and more lies. so tax as well. we've been taxed to the hilt. and now thanks to lying labour, we're going to get hit even harder with wealth taxes. you know we're practically moving towards communism. theft time . so to communism. theft time. so to stop the riots it's quite easy. first you stop the boats, you

stop work , you stop the two tier stop work, you stop the two tier policing, you stop knife crime, you stop shoplifting, you stop government waste, you stop diversity managers from the pubuc diversity managers from the public purse. you stop 50 grand per rainbow level crossing. once a year you stop £8 million a day being wasted on people who we do not want here. give us a referendum on net zero. bring back freedom of speech. you'll like that one. these are the sort of things he needs to do to stop the riots. >> okay, well, alan and lee thanks ever so much for joining me today. really appreciate that. coming up next, a supplement sunday where my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that have caught our eyes. don't go

welcome back. i'm andrew doyle in for nana akua. now it's time for supplement sunday, where my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that caught our eyes. so let's see. danny, what

have you got today? >> well, this is a great story from down under, >> it's about a woman who was jailed for two months because the dog. i'm not sure what breed it is. it's so fat, i can't even make out what breed it is. it was so fat. she's been imprisoned for animal cruelty for two months. and it reminds myself a little bit. it reminds me a little bit about myself. you couldn't walk for ten metres without stopping for a breath. three times. its legs buckled under the immense weight of its body. and now, thankfully, it's been taken into care and someone's rehomed it. it's lost a lot of weight, but the owner, two months behind bars. >> goodness me. okay, well, it's a form of animal cruelty, i suppose that's exactly what she was nicked. all right, christine, can i just. >> it prompts me to ask danny, how's the diet going? >> well, the dog or me? no, you. >> well, the dog or me? no, you. >> i think she means you, danny. >> i think she means you, danny. >> well, i think if i had an owner, the owner would be in prison. put it that way. okay. >> blimey. let's not get too personal. no, christine, what do you think, >> we are currently celebrating roughly the 70th anniversary of the end of rationing. neither of you to remember rationing. i do.

it came to an it came to an end. in 1954. and we used to import in 1939. we imported 20 million tons of food. so this country was incredibly reliant on imports. we, half our meat came from abroad, 70% of our cheese. and yet war breaks out and hitler would do his best with the u—boats to disrupt the food convoys in the atlantic, etc, etc. so something serious action had to be taken. we started by rationing petrol and then one by one everything fell. butter cheese, eggs, milk, etc. four ounces of butter a week , four ounces of butter a week, four ounces, one ounce of cheese. i mean an ounce of cheese is what most people, they just take a slice and put it. i don't think about it. that's what you had for a week. so life was quite grim. even soap was rationed, for heaven's sake, which i think kids thought was wonderful. so when it came to an end, it was a cause of much rejoicing. housewives rushed into trafalgar square and out into the streets, tearing their ration books up in half. and i just think it's worth remembering the privations that went on during the war,

when people complain about being without this and without that, and without the other privations dunng and without the other privations during the war were very serious and very hard. i didn't eat a banana. i had never seen a banana. i had never seen a banana until i was six. >> yeah, i think we were all quite pampered these days. >> aren't we? or a lemon? couldn't have a lemon either. didn't have lemons. goodness me, goodness me, i didn't notice i was missing them because i didn't know about them. but you know, absolutely . know, absolutely. >> what would carmen miranda do? well anyway, now across to america, where prince harry and his wife meghan markle have been discussing online safety with tv network cbs. >> i think one of the scariest things that we've learned over the course of the last 15, 17 years that social media has been around and more so recently, is the fact that it could happen to absolutely anybody. i mean, we always talk about in the olden days, if your kids were under your roof, you knew what they were up to. at least they were safe, right ? and now they can be safe, right? and now they can be in the next door room on a tablet or on a phone and can be going down these rabbit holes.

and before you know it, within 24 hours they could be taking their life . their life. >> and if you're affected by anything that we've discussed, you can contact the samaritans on 116123. christine and danny, i'll come to you first. christine, online safety i mean, it is a worry for parents, isn't it, because it's not possible for them to monitor what their children are doing at all times. >> it's a huge worry and i don't basically take any notice at all of what harry says. but he's of course he's right. i mean, a child could be sitting there talking to you and have goodness knows what on their phone . you knows what on their phone. you could be talking to them face to face, a feet from them without realising what they've got on their phone. and i do think it's something that has got to be taken very seriously. i think we are taking it seriously, but whether there are any measures in the it's very difficult, you know, without kerbing people's freedom, well, this is the problem, isn't , you know, when problem, isn't, you know, when you have harry and meghan sort of raising these kinds of issues. >> i mean, my only worry is that it kind of opens the door to onune it kind of opens the door to online censorship, or at least there is pressure for that. really. it's a parent. it's the parent's responsibility. but how can they do it?

>> i think the world would be a better place without twitter. now i know you both are on twitter. oh yeah, but i hate it. yeah, so it does more harm than good.i yeah, so it does more harm than good. i think. i think social media does more harm than good, i really do. i really do. and if you look at the very valid concerns about what's going on in the country, the people who are opposing the riots very and this is justifiably, are saying that it's all been fuelled by certain characters on twitter. >> yeah, but but that genie is out of the bottle now. i mean, we can't just suddenly close down social media. >> that could happen. i mean, elon musk could just close it down if he wanted. and if he were to close it down another one, he's not going to because he's a multi—billionaire. there would be other platforms. >> there'll be another one would, would, would pop up instantly. >> my central point is that without twitter, i think the world would be a better place. >> okay, well, that's all we've got time for, i'm afraid. on today's show we've been asking, who would you rather see in the white house? and according to our twitter poll, 86.5% of you say trump and 30.5 say harris. thanks so much to my panel. author and broadcaster christine hamilton and journalist and broadcaster danny kelly for joining me today. thank you . joining me today. thank you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. the north west south east split over the next 24 hours, turning increasingly humid as we go through monday for everyone. a deep area of low pressure sits to the north—west of the uk. outbreaks of heavy rain pushing into parts of western scotland. in particular, the met office warning in force from this evening onwards . here we could evening onwards. here we could see 50 to 75mm of rain falling over 24 hours or so, leading to some local disruption. so the rain continues through the evening and overnight across scotland, northern ireland, england and wales generally dry with some clear spells in the east western areas generally cloudier with some patchy rain over the hills, but that humid air moving in so temperatures overnight dropping no lower than 15 or 16 celsius in places. so first thing on monday morning, a wet start across western parts of scotland, the bright colours

there indicating heavy rain. there could be some local disruption and that rain only slowly pushing north eastwards through the day. northern ireland seeing a cloudy start but further heavy rain quickly pushing in similar across north—west england. outbreaks of patchy rain. wales in the west country two. best of the sunshine to start the day across eastern and southeastern parts of england through the day on monday. further pulses of heavy rain continue to push their way north eastwards across northern ireland, western parts of scotland. the met office warning out until 9 pm. in the evening time so there could be some local disruption through the day, generally further south and east, drier and brighter, but quite a bit of cloud. a very humid day. temperatures 25 to 27 celsius in the sunnier spots. a little breezy across the north—west as well into the evening time on monday. this weather front just starts to slip its way south eastwards, but just still notice some heavy bursts running along it across western parts of england and wales, and then it's a mixed

picture. through the rest of the week. there will be some showers at times, temperatures on the warm side in the south looks like things are heating

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