>> good afternoon britain. it's 12:00 on monday the 5th of august. i'm emily carter and i'm emma webb. summer of discontent keir starmer cancels his holiday, calling an emergency cobra meeting. that's as violent protests continue across the country. we'll have the very latest from our home and security editor. but should parliament be recalled? >> one week on as as a community grieves the murder of three girls against the backdrop of a nationwide disorder, we will have the latest from southport. >> we will indeed . and in other >> we will indeed. and in other news, i haven't scraped the surface. those are the words of meghan markle discussing her mental health in the royal couple's latest sit down interview. what exactly was said ?

interview. what exactly was said? now you've been in this seat the past week. while i was away and it's quite extraordinary watching what's been going on in this country, many people have been throwing accusations, of course, across social media, blaming one thing or the other. and it's been very stressful. i think, for the majority of people in this country to see buildings set ablaze, to see violent riots on our streets, the likes of which we haven't seen for a long time, what do you make of it all? what do you make of the response thus far? >> well, i can't think of a rougher news week in a very long time. i think people are feeling really frightened, actually, by all of this. i think parents in particular are worried about the safety of their children. i think many people are feeling angry ' think many people are feeling angry , actually, at the prime angry, actually, at the prime minister's response, because i don't think he's handled this particularly well. but it must be really strange for you coming

back from, from holiday, to a country that has almost in some ways fundamentally altered. well, yeah . well, yeah. >> i mean, i mean, i hope you're wrong when you say it's fundamentally altered. a lot of people have been warning against civil unrest for a long time. it does seem to be that during the summer months, things like this can take hold. and of course, there was the most awful catalyst, in this case, but very distressing. keir starmer , of distressing. keir starmer, of course, made those two speeches outside downing street. lots of criticism, lots of accusations of two tier policing as well, which i don't think he handled or has spoken about yet . of or has spoken about yet. of course, this cobra meeting will be very interesting. what exactly are they going to do? is there going to be more authoritarianism, perhaps in to order clamp down on these types of protests? because what we have seen is, is pretty, pretty horrific. and it must be condemned. but how do we put the lid on this? >> i think people people are going to be wanting to know, why wasn't this cobra meeting called

earlier? so all sorts of, of problems and concerns around this and the way that keir starmer has handled it, but at least he's decided not to go on holiday. well, yes. >> and if there are wide reaching policy changes, essentially when it comes to policing, when it comes to surveillance, when it comes to social media, surely parliament does need to be recalled in order to debate these things before they happen. you know, there could be wide reaching consequences of what we've seen, so let us know what you think. gbnews.com forward slash. your say is the way to get in touch. is it time to recall parliament and what do you make thus far of keir starmer's response to it all? >> and is keir starmer dragging his feet? maybe you're not happy with the way he's handled things, but do send us your views, have your say. but now it's the headlines with sam francis . francis. >> very good afternoon to you. the top story just after 12:00 and a recap then of that breaking news. the prime

minister is promising those involved in violent disorder to face the full force of the law after hosting a cobra meeting today. it follows the weekend of unrest across the country. the committee has been meeting this morning to discuss the violence and what can be done to make sure it stops. police have now detained more than 400 people since disorder broke out more than six days ago in middlesbrough alone , officers middlesbrough alone, officers detained 43 people after protesters chucked burning wheelie bins at police and overnight in rotherham and tamworth. masked anti—immigration protesters were seen hurling wood chairs and glass bottles outside a hotel believed to be housing migrants. our reporter anna reilly is there for us. >> violence and disorder broke out in a protest made up of around 700 people who targeted this hotel as it was being used to house asylum seekers, bricks and missiles were thrown, fires were started and the hotel

windows were smashed. at least ten police officers were injured as part of this, and the clean up effort is continuing . up effort is continuing. >> anna riley there reporting for us. well, just a quick update then on the latest figures from rotherham. we now know that at least 12 police officers were injured in the disorder there last night and so far six people, police say, have been arrested . one person been arrested. one person charged at this stage and south yorkshire police saying they do expect more arrests to be made in the coming days. the defence secretary, john healey, though, has ruled out putting the army on the street after those six days of serious disorder. but shadow home secretary james cleverly told us he thinks the government's been slow to react. >> it was only yesterday afternoon we found out that keir starmer was going to cancel his houday starmer was going to cancel his holiday plans. cobra is only meeting today after many days of violence and disorder. why did cobra not meet last week? to make the decisions about mutual aid, support for police officers, extra funding

coordination and cross—government departments? the labour party have got to get used to the fact they are no longer in opposition. it's not just about what you say, it's about what you do. and they have been slow off the mark. >> in other news, this lunchtime, a major incidents being declared at queen alexandra hospital in portsmouth after what's been described as an unexpected and a serious loss of power there, the a&e department is now closed to new patients and phone lines are still down. patients with a serious medical condition have been told not to attend a&e, and instead to phone nhs one, one 1 or 9 nine nine, with bosses saying services are expected to be affected throughout the day . be affected throughout the day. in the middle east, family members of british embassy workers in beirut have been evacuated from the region amid fears of an all out war between israel and lebanon. the government's also renewing calls for all british citizens to leave immediately, with the military understood to be on standby to get people out of the middle east. tensions in the region are still high after

leaders of the lebanese militant group hezbollah and hamas were assassinated last week . here, assassinated last week. here, pharmacy bosses are urging people not to buy fake weight loss jabs online. they're warning of a possible explosion in unlicensed medication on the internet after shortages with ozempic, which are expected to continue until next year. the injections have, of course, become popular with social media and celebrities showing before and celebrities showing before and after pictures of their fat loss . in the and after pictures of their fat loss. in the us, vice and after pictures of their fat loss . in the us, vice president loss. in the us, vice president kamala harris is expected to announce her running mate later after interviewing three top candidates. her shortlist includes all white men. they have a record of winning over rural , white or independent rural, white or independent voters. the decision will be pivotal as harris prepares to challenge donald trump in the upcoming election. following president biden's exit from the race. the candidates are expected to be informed either tonight or tomorrow morning when they have been picked . staying they have been picked. staying in the us hurricane debbie has

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>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> well, it's 1209. good afternoon britain. and the prime minister has held an emergency cobra meeting today after what was a weekend of violent riots in rotherham. >> a hotel used to house asylum seekers was set on fire and another in tamworth has been targeted by anti—immigration protesters. yes, and clashes also broke out between rioters and muslim counter—protesters over the weekend. two now we're joined by gb news home and security editor mark white. what is the latest on this cobra meeting? >> well, that cobra meeting obviously has been taking place with a view to discussing just where they go from here. the hope will be that after seeing a weekend of disturbances and disorder in communities in multiple areas of the country, that we then get to the point where things will, you know, for the for this week, hopefully settle down, and the police can try to then must re muster the

resources because those public order officers will be exhausted. there's no doubt it's tough there in hot conditions wearing, you know public order trying to deal with this kind of disorder. >> and you've been following this all very closely. what have the police's tactics been so far? have they been going in aggressively? have they been holding off because we've seen all types of different tactics from the police in recent months and years , and years, >> well, it's depended on the situation they've been up against, you know, in some, some areas it looks as though the police have been, quite significantly outnumbered and have had to, you know, push back, try to keep the, the crowds back as well. and then just, withdraw from situations that have got too violent for those officers. but it's all decided by ground commanders at these different locations who

are, tasked with trying to manage the policing response. and they will, make those decisions based on what they're seeing face to face. >> presumably they'll be discussing the manpower issue because we've seen the footage of some instances where the police are obviously being quite robust, but then there are other, images that people will have seen of the police standing back and sort of letting the chaos unfold. presumably that's a manpower issue, but the government have also been talking about assigning security to places of worship, for example. so how are they, you know, is that something that we would be expecting some announcement coming out of the cobra meeting, how they're going to, how the police are going to handle this going forward? >> well, yeah. i mean, there was a broad announcement about extra security. what that didn't say to me was what that security will consist of. will it be police officers? will it be private security contracted by mosques? but if mosques, for instance, and other places of

worship decide to ask for additional security procedures, then that will be considered and then that will be considered and the potential is they will get that. i mean, i think the difficulty for the police on the ground in terms of the level of response , which sometimes has response, which sometimes has clearly been more significant, they have had more resources than in other places , is that than in other places, is that there was last count, at least 35 protests that were advertised. now, quite a lot of these protests, nobody turned up or very few turned up at. there wasn't any issues, but they probably had the so they probably had the so they probably had the so they probably had sorry. the so they probably, you know, had enough resources and some locations. but then there were other locations where they didn't have, an idea that there was

going to be a very significant number of people turning up. and as such, they were, you know, not fully resourced and able to cope with it. >> and i believe we can show something that's just happened very recently with the met police , chief mark rowley . police, chief mark rowley. >> yeah . so, so we got some >> yeah. so, so we got some images. this is after the cobra meeting, and we're working on another clip that can hopefully give us an indication of what actually went on there. that doesn't look like anything went on at all. but you can see him come out. he grabs a microphone from the pool reporter. so a reporter, acting on behalf of all the broadcasters , who asked all the broadcasters, who asked sir mark rowley about whether there was a two tier policing now to me that sounded felt like that was him angrily grabbing that was him angrily grabbing that microphone and pulling it away to the point where actually

the microphone was disconnected and you got no sound. >> it's not a good look, is it? i mean, is that not, you know, you're destroying somebody else's property. it's not a good look for the i mean, i don't know, do we have the full clip of. >> we don't have the clip, we don't have it yet. >> but what we can see is a very angry by the looks of it, mark rowley, or at least very frustrated to be asked about two tier policing. but this is something that people are accusing the police of. >> is this because he's ——— had quite a hard time presumably had quite a hard time in the meeting that he's coming from? >> i can't get inside his head. i'm afraid . >> i can't get inside his head. i'm afraid. i'm sorry, >> i can't get inside his head. i'm afraid . i'm sorry, but i'm afraid. i'm sorry, but i know that sir mark rowley is someone i've known for many years who is a very measured individual. this would to me seem really out of character. we have that clip now where you can listen to the reporter asking the question and then so mark rowley not responding, but clearly ripping that microphone out of the reporter's hand and the sound going dead . just have

the sound going dead. just have a look at it now . a look at it now. >> are we going to hear police arne slot . the >> yeah. so clearly what has happened there is obvious for all to see that he's grabbed that microphone so forcefully that microphone so forcefully that it's disconnected the cable. and as such, all of the sound that would have been recorded on that microphone suddenly goes blank. so you can't even hear what else is being said. but other reporters are pursuing the commissioner across whitehall , are pursuing the commissioner across whitehall, asking him other questions. he clearly wasn't in the mood to answer any kind of questions. and yes, it might be that he had a difficult time in cobra. he might be

feeling that it is a very difficult time for policing in the country, but i don't think there's any excuse for grabbing and forcefully ripping a microphone out of anybody's hand. i wait to see what scotland yard will say in the defence of the commissioner's action there, because they definitely need to explain what has happened . no reporter has happened. no reporter deserves to have their microphone ripped out of their hand by any one in. you know, the public never mind a senior pubuc the public never mind a senior public figure such as the top police officer in the united kingdom, that is quite shocking there to see clearly. >> very frustrated indeed . but >> very frustrated indeed. but that question, does it warrant that question, does it warrant that kind of behaviour? >> you wonder what was going on through his mind? >> well, yeah, exactly. and perhaps we'll find out a little bit more. thank you so much, mark, our home and security edhon mark, our home and security editor. of course, mark white. >> now let's head to rotherham, where hotels, housing, asylum seekers were targeted over the weekend. we're now joined by gb news reporter anna riley .

news reporter anna riley. >> yes, we're here at the houdayinn >> yes, we're here at the holiday inn express where the cleanup effort continues. i'm just going to step to the side here, just to show you behind us, there's a large number of council staff that have gathered just. oh, sorry. there's a large number of council staff who have gathered, just to deal with the disturbance. last night, there were 750 protesters that amassed. and they a number of them turned violent. the police were out in riot gear. they were hurling bricks, objects at at the police and at the lower tier that you can see here. window completely smashed through with chairs and other objects used. and they actually then set fire inside the building earlier today there was a press conference held by south yorkshire police in which they said that six arrests had been made and that 12 officers had been injured as part of what

happened. speaking of the violence that happened yesterday, south yorkshire police assistant chief constable lindsay butterfield said that there was a particularly sickening moment when a wheelie bin was pushed against the hotel and set on fire with clear intent to cause serious harm to the residents and staff. it was known there were people residing and working in the hotel, but the mindless individuals responsible had absolutely no regard for their safety, she said. it was ultimately a disgusting display of thuggery , disgusting display of thuggery, continuing well into the evening with the police operation only finishing at about 5 am. now we know that police all around from these riots that have been going on since tuesday, so six days into this now are clamping down hard on the people that don't go to peacefully protest, but that turn out to cause violence and disorder. with this cobra meeting that we've had this morning, and also keir starmer

giving two press conferences in which he's saying that police will come down with the full force of the law to those that are caught breaking it. force of the law to those that are caught breaking it . we know are caught breaking it. we know that there's been john healey here as well today. he's the defence secretary. he's come to speak to residents and make assurances and, and the south yorkshire mayor as well, oliver coppard just saying how unacceptable it was that there were 240 migrants that were being housed in this hotel behind us that feared for their lives , especially when that fire lives, especially when that fire began, feared that they might be set fire to. and that began barricading themselves in their rooms. they've now been moved to on another place of safety . but on another place of safety. but that police, police investigation and that cleanup effort continues . effort continues. >> well, thank you very much indeed, anna riley there in rotherham. truly shocking scenes there over the weekend. big questions about how the

government and the police and all the authorities and the establishment essentially are going to be able to put a lid on all of this. >> yeah, we've got ourselves into a real mess. well, now this all comes one week on since the tragic stabbings of three girls in southport. we're joined now by gb news reporterjack carson. by gb news reporter jack carson. jack, what is the latest from southport ? southport? >> well, i think the pictures probably speak louder than any words i could. i could say to you both. of course you can see behind me here the just extent really of this temporary memorial that's kind of been here formed of formed of these flowers. of course, these flowers. of course, these flowers started to be laid here, outside this town hall at the first vigil the day after, of course, that tragic attack where three girls bebe king, of course, who was six years old, elsie dot stancombe at seven years old, and nine year old alice dasilva aguiar of course, were killed, five others of course, injured in injured in that attack left in a critical condition, and two adults who were suffering critical injuries. now thankfully, it seems that those are going to be

okay. but of course, from that, what we've seen here, particularly in southport and even still today, as we talk to people here, that the outpouring of emotion here is still really, really raw. and the grief that they are feeling within this community is still really raw. i think because of the age of the girls. what we've heard from people that i've spoken to this morning is that they everybody here feels like they've got a connection to someone of a similar age, or they've had grandkids, they've had children themselves. they understand the feelings that of course, that those parents must be feeling right now, and they understand, you know, what exactly is , you you know, what exactly is, you know, this community is feeling as a whole, you know, today as people lay flowers here, continue to lay flowers here, continue to lay flowers here, continue to lay teddy bears here, those people are being met with support from sefton council. we've we've seen a member of that, council walk around with, with leaflets about how this community can offer support to them with different helplines, with different services that the council can

offer. and that's the other thing that we've really picked up on here. just this morning, a week on actually from some people, actually a surprise of how the community has come together , because one man said together, because one man said together, because one man said to us that before this attack he was wondering how much of a community was was really left here in southport. but he said this has shown that it is there for each other and comes out when it is needed. and we saw that of course, you know, after the riots and protests that were here in southport themselves, when those attacks, of course, took place on a mosque the day after, there were bricklayers that that have caused had taken time off work to rebuild the wall that was destroyed, that was destroyed in those protests. so that's how the community has come together here, and they continue to mourn the loss of those girls. >> well, thank you very much indeed. jack carson there in southport. thank you. it's been extraordinary seeing those flowers pile up over the week . flowers pile up over the week. >> yeah. huge, >> yeah. huge, >> a truly shocking. >> a truly shocking. >> and you know, people need to actually remember the deaths of those three, those three young girls while all of this violent

unrest is going on coming up, we're going to be bringing you more, of course, on the government's reaction, their ongoing reaction to these violent riots. plus meghan markle discusses her mental health in the royal couple's latest sit down interview. >> we'll have all of that after this

good afternoon britain. it's almost 12:30. >> yes. and meghan markle has said she hopes opening up about her suicidal thoughts and online bullying will help others. >> this was during an interview on the sun on sunday morning, where she and harry sat down for a talk about their new project. >> yes, the duke and duchess of sussex's project is to help support parents who have lost a child to online harm. >> the project comes three years

after meghan revealed her own mental health struggles. during an interview with oprah winfrey. >> well, joining us now is gb news royal correspondent, cameron walker. now, cameron, i understand this is the first, interview with them both since that fateful oprah interview , that fateful oprah interview, have they tried to avoid talking about the royal family here after how it went down last time? >> well, funnily enough, it was the same network that did oprah winfrey as well. it was cbs sunday this time, yes, in a nutshell, in a quick answer, they didn't talk about the royal family but meghan did talk about her suicidal thoughts when she was a working member of the royal family. so perhaps there was a subtle look back on her time as a working royal. but they did try and keep the spotlight actually on the parents network. the new kind of initiative they're launching with their charity foundation. and, as you said, connecting and offering help to parents who've lost a child through suicide. so very important topic. but i think meghan was actually a little bit taken aback when she

was asked about her own suicidal experiences. so let's take a look at what meghan said . look at what meghan said. >> is it a through line? i think, and when you've been through any level of pain or trauma , i believe part of our trauma, i believe part of our heaung trauma, i believe part of our healing journey, certainly part of mine, is being able to be really open about it. and i, you know, i haven't really scraped the surface on my experience , the surface on my experience, but i do think that i would never want someone else to feel that way, and i would never want someone else to be making those sort of plans. and i would never want someone else to not be believed. so if me voicing what i have, overcome will save someone or asks or encourage someone or asks or encourage someone in their life to really, genuinely check in on them and not assume that the appearance is good so everything's okay, then that's worth it . is good so everything's okay, then that's worth it. i'll is good so everything's okay, then that's worth it . i'll take then that's worth it. i'll take a hit for that . a hit for that. >> ooh, she's really teasing

that there's more to come out, isn't she? yes. >> only scratched the surface is what she says about her own mental health journey. i think there's kind of two points to this, really. on the one hand, because she is very famous, whether you like her or loathe her, her opening up about her own feelings could potentially help others. i think that's the first point, but i think her critics are going to say, why on earth are you bringing it back to yourself in this situation where the spotlight should really be on the parents who've lost their children through suicide? >> she hasn't really learned, has she, to not always make these things about herself, that that doesn't really go down well with the public. if she's saying that they've only just she's only scratched the surface. i mean, that must be a very big iceberg if that's just the tip of it. >> well, scratching the surface of her own mental health, but also perhaps scratching the surface of this new initiative, which really is in its very early stages. there's only about six, groups of parents who are part of it so far. it's open to any parent who's lost a child through suicide, in the uk, us and canada at the moment. so it's going to be a while, i think, before we see if there's

any tangible impact from this particular initiative. but what i am struggling with a little bit is the amount of abuse that comes from harry meghan's supporters online. i mean, me for example, just tweeting about this initiative, this morning, i got, i got i actually got a lot of kind of hate from prince and princess of wales fans. so i think there's a lot of there's two kind of deserve that camera. well, there's a lot of cult groups either very pro harry and meghan or very pro william and catherine, and they're pitted against each other online. all the time, hurling awful abuse against both meghan and it is very bizarre, isn't it? >> i mean, it is very much two camps and these social media people, these people online are vicious about it. but it's interesting, isn't it, because they're talking about parents and the importance of, you know , and the importance of, you know, helping your children with onune helping your children with online and helping to prevent them from, from being online and being online bullied and all of that stuff . but they both, don't that stuff. but they both, don't have relationships with. well,

harry doesn't seem to have a very strong relationship with his father at this moment. and meghan too, with her father, they are estranged. >> can't be terribly good for her father's mental health, can it? well, they certainly or indeed hers . indeed hers. >> well, they certainly didn't talk about their own fathers within the interview. what they did talk about was their own two very young children who clearly are too young to be on social media at the moment. but they were talking about the struggles or harry was talking about having to be a first responder to his own children, and that all parents need to be first responders because of the dangers of social media. so that's what they were kind of talking about. but i think it's just a real it's a really delicate balance. they've got to strike about it not making it about themselves and talking about themselves and talking about themselves and talking about the foundation. >> it's interesting. they've got this big columbia tour coming up and it seems as if they really are not particularly interested in leading much of a private life. >> well, well, well , cameron, >> well, well, well, cameron, thank you very much indeed. >> cameron walker, our royal correspondent. and we should say if you or someone you know is

struggling with their mental health, you can find links to help and advice on our website gbnews.com so you can get help and advice on our website . so and advice on our website. so there you go. >> now coming up, we're live from downing street as the prime minister holds his emergency cobra meeting. that's all to come after your headlines with sam . sam. >> very good afternoon to you from the newsroom just after 12:30. and the top story this lunchtime. that emergency cobra meeting has been taking place in downing street, chaired by the prime minister in response to ongoing unrest across the country. mps from all parties want to parliament be recalled, while over 400 arrests have so far been made in rotherham alone, six arrests were made last night and one person has now been charged. that's after at least 12 police officers were injured during disorder outside a hotel. south yorkshire police say they do expect that number to increase significantly in the coming days, and there has now

been six days of serious disorder following the murder of three small children in southport last week. sir keir starmer is promising those involved will face the full force of the law and say rioters would regret their actions. but shadow home secretary james cleverly told us earlier he thinks the government's been slow to act. >> it was only yesterday afternoon we found out that keir starmer was going to cancel his houday starmer was going to cancel his holiday plans. cobra is only meeting today after many days of violence and disorder. why did cobra not meet last week? to make the decisions about mutual aid, support for police officers, extra funding coordination and cross—government departments? the labour party have got to get used to the fact they are no longer in opposition. it's not just about what you say, it's about what you do. and they have been slow off the mark. >> meanwhile, malaysia is the first country to issue a warning to its citizens in the uk in response to violent anti—immigration protests and riots. the country's ministry of foreign affairs is now urging

people living in or visiting britain to stay away from any demonstrations and to stay vigilant. in other news, police investigating the suspected murder of a dog walker in suffolk have now identified two new areas of interest. 57 year old anita rose was found injured and unconscious in brantham on the 24th of july. she later died in hospital. cordons are now in place in the new mill lane area. three people arrested in connection with the incident have all been bailed . fears of have all been bailed. fears of a recession in the us have caused stock markets to fall sharply around the world. the ftse 100 was down more than 2% this morning as markets opened and in asia, shares closed with a big drop. the biggest fall since 1987. black monday and team gb have taken bronze in the triathlon mixed team relay at the olympics, after initially thinking they'd won silver. the photo finish revealed the british quartette. alex yee, sam dickinson, georgia taylor—brown

and beth potter finished just behind the us and germany, who took gold ? those are the latest took gold? those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sam francis back with you. just after 1:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash

>> well, it's 1239. >> well, it's 1239. >> good afternoon britain, there was obviously a disgruntled cobra meeting, perhaps a little stressful because the met police commissioner, sir mark rowley, grabbed a journalist's microphone when he was asked a question about two tier policing. i said .

policing. i said. >> are we going to end two tier policing, sir? >> right, so i think it's clear as day that he was extremely frustrated. perhaps from the meeting, but more likely from the question he was asked. >> not a good look, is it? i mean, mark rowley has the term has been coined rowley ism to refer to the sort of even handed approach that he's taken in the past, who's coined that? you know, i don't know who it was coined by, but it was in relation to islamist extremism. and whenever he would mention islamist extremism, he always had to name another kind of extremism, right wing extremism. so people started referring to that as rowley ism. and so i don't know whether maybe this two tier policing question has obviously really hit a nerve, but it's not a good look. is it? i mean, for somebody who's in such a senior , position and in such a senior, position and in many ways represents the law to effectively damage a journalists, camera equipment is, well , yes.

is, well, yes. >> i mean, serious freedom of the press is, is fundamental in this country or in any free democracy, and yes, you could argue that is damage to someone else's property too, as he as he i mean, a questions will be asked, i'm sure, but in one way, in one way. and grant me this in one way. i do have a little bit of sympathy, sympathy for those at the top of the police at the moment, can you imagine more of a stressful time at the moment, managing so many conflicting protests constantly, for one thing or another, that turn into violence in this case, with these protests that we're seeing up and down the country now, and it must be very tense. >> i think you're being very charitable. >> i you know what? i'm feeling charitable . i'm feeling charitable. i'm feeling charitable, but obviously that is not what you would expect from a police chief. no i mean, i think it's disgraceful behaviour, and i can't imagine what must have been going through his mind when he decided to do that, >> but the reason why i'm not as

charitable as you is because i think i have sympathy for those frontline police officers that we're looking at there who don't really have any, decision making power when it comes to the way that the police decide to police these protests, they're given orders and they have to, just go and police, as they're told i have much less sympathy for those at the top of the police who are in leadership positions, who are in leadership positions, who have protest after protest after protest, handled things badly. i think they're not handung badly. i think they're not handling this particularly well, although i think that's probably more on the prime minister than it is on them, but we've seen the way that they have strategically, you know, strategically, you know, strategic decisions they've made about policing previous protests that have led to these accusations of two tier policing, and i really do believe that that that approach to policing has made things worse because they were seen to be fleeing when there were riots in leeds, when a bus was set on fire and they wait until after the protest to arrest people because they don't want to cause a riot. but the ultimate upshot of that is that you end up with these situations where, the

pubuc these situations where, the public have become almost accustomed to expecting this kind of disorder on their streets. maybe not at this scale, but people have warned that two tier policing will lead to an escalation like this and weren't listened to. so i have much less sympathy with mark rowley and those who are at the top of the met and what happens now. >> i mean, there's obviously strong calls from within government. the home secretary, i believe, was talking about this this morning on the media round about how, you know, social media giants need to be taken to task. so your facebooks, your twitters, your instagrams, wherever information is shared. and of course, there is shared. and of course, there is a lot of misinformation. there is a lot of disinformation about there are a lot of people out there riling up some of the violence here. and some of these protests and egging people on. of course, there is censorship and more government regulation of these social media giants. the answer , though, because you the answer, though, because you could get into quite a dystopian a scenario really, where it is up to the home secretary to

decide what the truth is. >> yeah, we will be talking about that a little bit later in the show, but i think there are many people who are very concerned that this is going to lead to a crackdown on freedom of expression. i mean, yes, of course, like incite straightforward incitement onune straightforward incitement online is one thing, but we've already seen talk of those who are, labour mps and muslim groups who are pushing for that appg definition of islamophobia to be brought in that, would affect the parliamentary group that was looking into this. yeah, the all party parliamentary group, and so there's a huge concern there that this is going to lead to a crackdown on freedom of expression and other, you know, onune expression and other, you know, online behaviour. >> you can put the lid on these types of things, but you have to resolve what's beneath it. and that i don't believe has been tackled yet. we've got some views though, on mark rowley. >> we do indeed, james says footage has emerged of the head of the met, mark rowley, snatching a reporter's microphone and throwing it on the floor when asked about two tier policing. this is inexcusable, childish behaviour

from someone leading our most senior police force. what example does this set? >> very, very good point. good question. not a very good example. i would say , russell example. i would say, russell says talk about double standards. the prime minister calls protesters far right thugs due to their actions. mark rowley walks out of number 10 and rips a reporter's microphone apart. i would say i don't think there's a direct comparison, really, between ripping a microphone out of a reporter's hand and, setting wheelie bins alight outside a migrant hotel. but i take your point that there is bad behaviour being exhibited here. >> it does show a bit of a as i was saying, he's a representative of the law in many senses, and it does show a sort of disrespect for the law to, to treat somebody else's property like that. >> that is a very frustrated man. that is a very frustrated man. that is a very frustrated man looking at him, walking, storming off. i would say across the road there, he's got reasons to be frustrated, but i think he's definitely, got some questions to answer himself . questions to answer himself. >> so. >> so. >> well keep your yeah. >> well keep your yeah. >> maybe he was asked them and that's the reason why he's

frustrated. >> yeah. i mean as a head of a police being asked being having the suggestion that you're operating a two tier policing. yeah. is a very difficult one to reckon with policing very much with fear and favour. >> i think, is the accusation of this two tier policing. and it's something that has dogged the met for some time now, so i think probably under the circumstances they might be worried that perhaps their previous policing has aggravated the situation somewhat. >> wouldn't it be nice if just all criminals were treated the same and the police, you know , same and the police, you know, behaved in exactly the same way, regardless of whatever cause, regardless of whatever cause, regardless of what group you come from ? anyway, keep your come from? anyway, keep your views coming in. that's enough of us, gbnews.com/yoursay. we'll get to some more of your views, of course, later on the show. but coming up, we will be on downing street with our political editor, and also we'll have the latest on the olympic boxing row as algerian imane khelif cries, i am a woman after reaching the semi—finals. >> that's to come. after this

good afternoon britain . it's good afternoon britain. it's almost 10 to 1, and next up we're going to be talking about imane khelif, the algerian fighter who failed two gender tests and cried , i am a woman! tests and cried, i am a woman! after easily reaching the semi—finals in the boxing, she's called for an end to bullying following the ioc's decision to defend the fighter with organisers calling for a stop to the spreading of misinformation online. >> right? >> right? >> well, elsewhere in the olympics, china are currently leading in the gold medal tally, with the united states just one gold medal behind. and earlier this morning team gb were downgraded from silver to bronze medal in the triathlon relay following a review of the finish. >> dear dan, it's not what we

want to hear, is it? >> we're going to be joined now by sports journalist chris skudder to talk us through this , skudder to talk us through this, let's start with the boxing, then, because this has been absolutely everywhere we had this italian boxer essentially walk up, walk off, give up the fight, and then there's been a huge amount of controversy essentially over whether this boxer counts as a man or a woman. boxer counts as a man or a woman. where are boxer counts as a man or a woman. where are we boxer counts as a man or a woman. where are we now? >> we're exactly where we've been ever since the story broke. really, apart from that very emotional reaction from the italian, who since apologised, by the way , maybe under pressure by the way, maybe under pressure from the ioc, the international olympic committee to do so, listen, this is where we are, the international olympic committee do not recognise that alleged test that was failed by imane khelif. it's a political story now , unless they can come story now, unless they can come up with some concrete evidence that she failed a drugs test, not a drugs test, a gender test. then nothing is going to change. and they're basically not recognised anymore. this is the

problem here. it's a huge political row. the ioc are running these games and they say go away eba with anything to do with you. this is a legal boxer. she's female. she's done nothing wrong. and of course she's she's been able to not have to say any more about it apart from do her boxing. and she's won two bouts comfortably so far and she's guaranteed a medal. so unless the iba, who are discredited from running amateur boxing around the world, can come up with some proof that, khalife has the x, y chromosome. that's the allegation that she is a man, not a woman, then nothing's going to happen. the medal will remain hers. and she'll quite probably go on and win gold. >> chris, why has the iba been discredited , discredited, >> it's basically a political story about governance, about alleged, impropriety and running the sport. some dodgy results, if you like financial problems. and there's also because

there's, there's russian involvement as well. you can see where it's gone with this, allegedly khalife beat a russian athlete during the world championships last year, and it is thought maybe that they weren't very happy about that because, they thought that there was something not quite right there, but there's no proof of that, really. they say that their test was legally binding, but they they also say that it is confidential. so, you know , is confidential. so, you know, if they were to come forward and say, we can prove that she failed a gender test, then that would be they open to be sued , would be they open to be sued, however, if they were to prove it, they would be you know, they would be vindicated . but that's would be vindicated. but that's not going to happen. and the ioc are not going to let it happen as well. so nothing's going to change in my opinion. >> and chris, just very quickly, i'm just reading here that adam peaty is, slamming what he calls cheating chinese swimmers. what's happened there? just very quickly. yeah. >> well listen again, again,

there was 23 chinese athletes who were alleged to have failed a drugs test last year, and they were cleared by. they claimed that they had taken some contaminated food and it blew over basically. but the brits were beaten in the relay last night by the chinese and two of those who were implicated in that story were in that team as peaty, you know, hurting probably from not winning the individual, you know, listen, we don't know. but if the ioc say they're clear to run, that's to race. that's where we are with it. and until there are legal challenges, nothing's going to change. >> well, there we go. thank you very much, chris skudder, for bringing us all of that. sports journalist. indeed, coming up, we're going to have more on those violent protests that broke out across the country over the weekend, stay with . us. over the weekend, stay with. us. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news

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>> welcome back to good afternoon britain. it's1:oo. let's kick off this hour by heanng let's kick off this hour by hearing from the prime minister who's just been speaking following an emergency cobra meeting. here's what he had to say. >> meeting this morning, which was an opportunity that i took to thank the police for their work over the last few days to express my support for the police officers who have been injured and the communities impacted by this mindless thuggery. there are a number of actions that came out of the meeting. the first is we will have a standing army of specialist officers, public, duty officers, so that we'll have enough officers to deal with this where we need them. the second is we'll ramp up criminal justice. there have already been hundreds of

arrests. some have appeared in court. this morning. i have asked for early consideration of the earliest naming and identification of those involved in the process. who will feel the full force of the law. and thirdly, i have been absolutely clear that the criminal law appues clear that the criminal law applies online as well as offline. and i'm assured that that's the approach that is being taken . whatever the being taken. whatever the apparent motivation , this is not apparent motivation, this is not protest, it is pure violence. and we will not tolerate attacks on mosques or our muslim communities. so the full force of the law will be visited on all those who are identified as having taken part in these activities. >> prime minister, how quickly can this army of specialist officers you just told us about bnng officers you just told us about bring these violent protests to an end and where people are apprehended? do we have the courts to process them or the prison cells to put them in in

relation to the police? >> i am absolutely clear that we will have the officers we need, where we need them to deal with this disorder, and that is why the standing army has been set up. specialist officers ready to be deployed to support communities on the question of prisons . firstly, we're prisons. firstly, we're monitoring it on a daily basis. i'm appalled that we've been put in this position by the previous government. that is even a discussion. it's even a question that you have to ask me . but we that you have to ask me. but we will make this work and ensure that we've got the places that are needed to bring the perpetrators swiftly to justice. so on both those fronts, i'm confident that we can absolutely make sure that those engaged in this activity do feel the full force of the law. >> some mps have said that a recall of parliament is necessary. is that something you're considering? >> look, my focus is on ensuring that we've got the right people carrying out their duties to ensure that our streets are safe, for the public, that is

the first duty of government. and that's where my absolute focus is. >> so we don't need one at this stage. >> no, my focus is on making sure that we stop this disorder, that the criminal sanctions are swift and follow and be seen to be followed, which is why i've asked for consideration to be given to the earliest identification and naming of those that are involved in this. many have been arrested , some many have been arrested, some have been in charged, some of them are in court. now. we're entitled to know who they are so they can be identified at the first opportunity. but that's where my focus is. and i think the vast majority of people watching this would say that's absolutely where my focus should be. >> prime minister sir mark rowley, the met commissioner, left this cobra meeting and was asked a question by a reporter about two tier policing, which is an accusation made by some people, including the reform party. he grabbed the reporter's microphone and appeared to throw

it on the ground. is that an appropriate reaction? and what do you say to these accusations about two tier policing? >> there's no two tier policing. there is policing without fear or favour, exactly as it should be. exactly what i would expect and require. so that is a non—issue . the focus here is not non—issue. the focus here is not on the apparent motivation of anybody involved in this. this is not protest. this is violence . is not protest. this is violence. it's violence on our streets being inflicted and targeted on communities. and we're not going to tolerate that in this country. >> can i finally ask you about onune? >> can i finally ask you about online? you mentioned that in your cobra meeting , should your cobra meeting, should social media companies allow figures like tommy robinson, like andrew tate, to be on their platforms? >> well, the message from me this morning was very clear in the cobra meeting , which is the the cobra meeting, which is the law applies online. so if you're inciting violence, it doesn't matter whether it's online or offline . and therefore i expect

offline. and therefore i expect just as in relation to those that are directly participating on the streets, for there to be arrests and charging and prosecution . equally, anyone who prosecution. equally, anyone who has been found to have committed a criminal offence online can expect the same response. thank you very much . you very much. >> me? >> me? >> well, complete denial that there is any two tier policing, there is any two tier policing, the police are behaving in exactly the way that they should be, says sir keir starmer. >> i find, i mean, i find that astonishing, i think, i think many people will be quite shocked to hear him say quite straightforwardly, there is no tier , two tier policing and that tier, two tier policing and that policing is exactly as it should be. i think, keir, if policing is exactly as it should be, and this situation wouldn't have happened as it has, i think again, this is another example of him possibly not handling the situation as well as he could

have done, and a little bit of deflection there on the question of whether he plans to recall parliament, keir starmer saying my focus is on ensuring we have the right people to carry out dufies the right people to carry out duties to ensure streets are safe. >> he was pressed again. he said my focus is on stopping this disorder, that's very good. but if there are going to be changes to the law, surely that must be put before parliament very quickly indeed, particularly if they want to crack down on more speech online. >> i think he mentioned in the question there was specifically asked about people like tommy robinson and andrew tate, and he was very clear that people who are found to be inciting violence online will be prosecuted. so i feel like this is something that should warrant the recall of parliament, don't you? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, saying that the criminal law must apply exactly in the same way online and offline. so whether you've been involved in these violent protests and you've done these disgusting acts of violence, arson attacks , etc, targeting arson attacks, etc, targeting minority communities , that's the

minority communities, that's the same as inciting it online. that's very interesting how that will actually be applied in practice may prove a little more difficult, but there you go. and wanting to name and shame too, made a big thing of that. we're now joined by gb news political editor christopher hope live from downing street to help us digest this all, christopher, what were your takeaways there ? what were your takeaways there? >> i'm sorry i missed that. mr i'm sorry i missed that question. >> just your takeaways from what we heard . we heard. >> that's right. we heard there from the pm, didn't we? welcome to downing street. where behind me in the building behind me in cabinet office. the pm has been meeting with his cobra group of senior ministers. >> he met there with angela rayner , shabana mahmood, peter rayner, shabana mahmood, peter kyle, lord herner, who's the attorney general, darren jones, the treasury and yvette cooper, the treasury and yvette cooper, the home secretary, along with police and other senior figures. he's made very clear that there is no justification at all for this violence. he was asked saying that that that clip you saw there about double standards in policing. he says that does

not exist. he doesn't want to say anything, which would add any form of legitimacy to the violence. and he was asked in the briefing earlier about, was there any double standard between policing, maybe in parts of leeds took a few weeks ago and in, in, in other areas over the weekend? he says no, there's nothing at all to do with that. so he's been very clear on that, but we heard that we heard there that from the pm's spokesman. there's no likelihood at currently of recalling parliament that does cost lots of money to the taxpayer. privately, downing street officials make very clear they think they've got enough, powers that they, they need to ensure that they, they need to ensure that this country is kept safe. this new idea of surge policing is being deployed over the next few days, a specialist army , few days, a specialist army, deployed by the by the by the police and under the guidance or at least the or at least the allowance of the prime minister to ensure that any trouble emerging around the country, this week, there will be a surge of policing. there no plans to have the army involved in here. the chief of the army, general

radakin, was seen going into downing street earlier. that was nothing to do with this meeting at all. so the no, no, no session of the army will deployed on the streets, courts will be kept open later. we're told by the downing street they won't say when they've got 70 more prosecutors to ensure that the charging decisions are made very quickly. and the pm made very quickly. and the pm made very clear also, he wants to name any individuals charged as soon as possible. the idea is to try and get the community to almost a shame. those who are involved in the rioting. so attempts here by the by sir keir starmer to get a grip on the problem. and as far as we know, by the way, he's not going on houday by the way, he's not going on holiday this week. he's around all this week. there were suggestions in the weekend newspaper, the times, i think last saturday that he was planning a holiday that is not the case this week as as planned. number 10 say. >> yeah. christopher, the use of the word army was very interesting. he's not actually drafting in the army. at this stage, it is a standing army of

specialist police officers. i guess the question is, where are all these police officers going to come from? do we have huge numbers of police who are able to take on these extra duties to fulfil these specialist roles, and also that question that was put to him on prison spaces. we're hearing a lot about how there are only 700 spaces left in male prisons. if we've already got a couple of hundred arrests or thereabouts, it's going to be very tricky to manage . well, that's right on manage. well, that's right on both those matters. >> the government says there's no problem here. they have got the, the idea they're going to deploy. i think officers to, to parts around the country. so when there's problems emerging there, they can then deploy them very rapidly . they say despite very rapidly. they say despite the fact, as you say, that the prisons are close to, to boil to, to over overflowing the cells. they say there's no problem there. they can actually take more offenders in and hold them if they need to. and indeed it when sentenced , they can be it when sentenced, they can be jailed. that won't cause a

problem. apparently to the prison overcrowding issue. but yeah, on both those issues number 10 says no problem here. >> okay. well thank you very much indeed christopher. hope our political editor, live from downing street. please do bring us any further updates on the government's response there. it's interesting just on that two tier policing. i understand i think, i two tier policing. i understand ithink, i mean, it's two tier policing. i understand i think, i mean, it's either that keir starmer, you know, he may have his head in the sand, but also he probably wants to differentiate himself from the previous government because lots of government ministers spoke about the police sometimes in terms of, you know , they're not terms of, you know, they're not doing the right thing when it comes to this or that or whatever, and he probably wants to distance himself from that treatment. >> i mean, i know, i know that there is obviously they're a new government, but it's quite shocking to hear him deny the two tier policing when some of the arguments that were made previously, the reason why the police couldn't protest these big protests, couldn't go in in a more heavy handed way and just allowed things to take place as

they did, was partly because they did, was partly because they didn't have the resources to arrest and charge all of these people. but as we've seen, it is possible to step up the game to make that capacity and to redirect resources in order to, to, to arrest and charge more people. so the question is obviously, why was this not done before for previous protests? now, i know obviously this is on a completely different scale, but you do have to ask, would it have reached this point if those previous protests had been policed differently? >> well, there you go. let us know your thoughts gbnews.com/yoursay. but let's head to rotherham now because that's where hotels housing, asylum seekers were targeted over the weekend. we're joined now by gb news reporter anna riley, who's on the scene for us. anna, hearing that up to 700 rioters chose to target this particular hotel . yeah. particular hotel. yeah. >> that's it. yes. in a press conference today, south yorkshire police have said it

was 750 protesters that arrived here and a smaller number involved in the disorder that you can still see behind me now . you can still see behind me now. i'll just show you there. you can see those windows on the lower ground of the hotel just completely smashed through. you can see the curtains billowing out there that have been torn to shreds, and you can see the chairs as well that were used and hurled at the windows as well. we've been told that there was a wheelie wheelie bin that was a wheelie wheelie bin that was set fire to so the hotel set ablaze as well. and the hotel had 240 asylum seekers inside at the time, including children . the time, including children. reports that they were terrified when this happened. when this number of thugs came with the riot police as well. also targeted in this press conference, it was said that 12 police officers had been injured as part of what happened and that six arrests have been made

so far. and it is something that the police and the government have branded as far right thuggery. but earlier today we spoke to gary dawson. he was a protester that came here last night. and this is why he told us that he attended. >> he's to make a point just to support the local people that they shouldn't be here. they want to send him back home or send him somewhere else. but the trouble you can see has been done by a small minority of people, and most of them are peaceful people just making a protest . and this is what's come protest. and this is what's come at it. but which is wrong. so we've come down to support them just to set not cause any trouble, to just say what we think. and standing in this car park, he said. what we think . park, he said. what we think. >> and police have said that for those that did break the law, not just in this riots, but riots that started across the

country after that tragic incident in which those three little girls were murdered in southport on monday, and that the police would, make sure that people felt the full brunt of the law for those that are breaking it. but as you can see here, rather rather windy. but there's a crime scene investigation tape that's here. the c5! investigation tape that's here. the csi officers that are currently combing through the hotel, cctv being analysed, witness statements being taken and the police and the government saying that those found rioting and breaking the law are going to be punished . law are going to be punished. >> okay. well, thank you very much indeed , anna riley, for much indeed, anna riley, for bringing us that report live from rotherham, where that hotel became the target of some of these violent riots . these violent riots. >> now this all comes one week since the tragic stabbing of three girls in southport. we're joined now by gb news reporter jack carson. jack, what's the latest from southport ?

latest from southport? >> well, i think, you know, you can see the flowers and this temporary memorial that's been set up here in southport, of course, in dedication to those three girls that tragically lost their lives a week ago today, six year old bebe king, seven year old elsie dot stancombe and of course, nine year old alice da silva aguilar were all killed in that attack when they were attending that taylor swift dance class. they were making bracelets. they were having fun with their friends, of course. and then a man with a knife comes in and of course starts to stab people. i mean, the response from this community has just been this outpouring of grief and also love and support, of course, for those families directly affected, of course, by this incident. and these flowers here were started to be laid at the vigil that first took place after, of course, that attack and just piles and piles of more flowers. even still today, this morning, as we've been here, more flowers being laid here and people just taking a moment to reflect the people that we've

spoken to here, feeling that this is this is very much a place where they feel like they have to come in to order feel like they are doing something, feeling like they, of course, can feel close to their community once again. there had been concerns that from people we've spoken to, that maybe this place doesn't feel like much of a community anymore, but that certainly has been flipped on its head with the outpouring, of course, of grief and togetherness that this community has shown, of course, in supporting the people involved within that attack. take a listen to what a few people we've spoken to today told us about the tributes has been fantastic, but i think the protesters have ruined part of the grieving for the families. >> couldn't believe why are they doing this? it's not even people we know anything like that. i can't believe it. >> i can't believe these idiots going round with sort of mask on and everything, trying to just attack everybody. at the end of the day, we're all human beings and you want to make a life for and you want to make a life for a life. don't you? >> you know, still can't get

over it, you know, because my granddaughter's only five and she goes to a dance club and i think, gosh, you know, it could have been her. >> i think that last lady that you heard there pretty much sums up how people are feeling that they everyone here feels like there is some kind of personal connection to what's happened here. everyone has either got children, nieces, nephews or or grandkids that go to these kinds of dance classes, especially now, of course, during the summer holidays , of course, summer holidays, of course, where we're in now, these children are trying to spend time with their friends and enjoy the sunshine as well. and of course, we've also heard over the last couple of days from 63 year old, of course , john hayes, year old, of course, john hayes, who was one of those people that rushed in when he heard the screams of these children and heard that there had been an attack take place. of course, at that dance school, he said, you know, quite frankly, when the man with the knife ran towards him, he thought he was going to be killed. but of course he doesn't want to be considered a hero. he said the heroes were, of course, were those teachers within that school of course, that have been put in critical

condition in hospital after the attack that were trying to protect the children. so the feeling here very much on the ground a week on is still one of raw emotion, as you can see behind me, as people continue to lay flowers for these girls. >> well, thank you very much indeed. jack carson there live indeed. jack carson there live in southport. very moving to see all those, flowers and gifts. >> and i think it's also it's a reminder, isn't it, that it's not just the children who were murdered or the children who were stabbed, who have been affected by this , but also there affected by this, but also there would have been other children in that dance class who would have seen that happen, who are now having to face the murder of their friends. now having to face the murder of theirfriends. i mean , now having to face the murder of their friends. i mean , it just their friends. i mean, it just is impossible to wrap your head around. and of course, all of the children also who live in that area, or even around the country, who will be unable to escape this news. on country, who will be unable to escape this news. oh yeah , a escape this news. oh yeah, a chilling effect. it's just horrific. i actually don't like referring to it as tragic because i think it's much, much worse than the word tragic could possibly encompass. >> it's more than that, and as

far as i know, we're none the wiser of a specific motive why this dance class was targeted in this dance class was targeted in this way, but i'm sure that will come out in the fullness of time. >> but for now, that report from southport, they're just showing the outpouring of love and upset and support there in the community. very moving. coming up though, met police commissioner sir mark rowley has grabbed a journalist's microphone when asked a question about two tier policing. >> a spokesman has mysteriously said he was in a hurry to return to scotland yard to take action on the agreed next steps. more on the agreed next steps. more on that. he's just in a hurry. just in a hurry. >> nothing to see here, just perfectly normal behaviour

well good afternoon, britain, 123 is the time now. there was obviously a bit of a disgruntled cobra meeting, or a bit of a stressful one. because the met police commissioner, sir mark rowley , grabbed a journalist's rowley, grabbed a journalist's microphone when he was asked a question by the media about two tier policing . tier policing. >> now we're joined by gb news home and security editor mark white. what happened here exactly? >> well, the met commissioner was leaving that cobra meeting. now we've had a statement from scotland yard disputing that he was in any way disgruntled, i'll share with you what they said in a second, but let's just listen to sir mark rowley's reaction as he left cobra and was asked a question about two tier policing . question about two tier policing. >> are we going to end two tier policing, sir?

>> so, that looks pretty clear to me that he grabbed that microphone unnecessarily because he just walk. you can just walk past it. you don't need to touch the microphone, but he grabbed it clearly with such force that it clearly with such force that it ripped it from the handle. the microphone sits in, and then that disconnected the microphone from the cable. so the sound went dead. at that point, as the, press were pursuing sir mark rowley over the road. now, scotland yard have just said that the commissioner had a positive and constructive meeting with the prime minister and partners across government and partners across government and policing. they then said and presumably this is their explanation as to why he grabbed a microphone . he was in explanation as to why he grabbed a microphone. he was in a hurry to return to new scotland yard to return to new scotland yard to take action on the agreed next steps. >> they can't expect the public to believe that i mean, that's

if you're in a hurry. you don't grab the microphone from journalist. >> you're actually wasting time, aren't you? really? >> i it's it seems like an extraordinary i mean, it wasn't impeded in any way, shape or form in his ability to get across that road quickly. >> you don't want to answer the question. you don't answer the question. you don't answer the question as he didn't. he just said nothing. but it also, he just gave a little grab and a pull while he was doing that. i think to me it looks pretty clear that he didn't like being asked about two tier policing and maybe understandably so. you know, the police , senior know, the police, senior commanders, they're seeing what their officers have been up against in recent days. that's got to play on you. of course it has. and i'm sure they don't like being accused of two tier policing . but there's no way policing. but there's no way that that required a grabbing of a microphone and pulling it off. >> we've just seen keir starmer denying that there is two tier policing. but does that seem mark rowley pulling that

microphone there. does that not send the message actually that i mean this is the this is a senior person in the met. effectively you know assaulting freedom of the press, you know, it's quite a serious thing to do and to just to brush that aside and to just to brush that aside and say that it's just because he was in a hurry seems like an extraordinary thing to expect the public to believe. >> well, for me, what it says is you know, it's completely out of character of the man i know. i've known for quite a few years from the time he was in charge of counter—terrorism policing, always very measured, but that seemed to be just a little moment of what do they describe, a moment of madness, it might not go that far. >> minutes . >> minutes. >> minutes. >> a little bizarre interaction, but clearly, as i say, the, you know , he probably does take know, he probably does take offence at this accusation of two tier policing, but it's a live issue. people are concerned about what they see is maybe a

heavy handed approach to some groups when they're protesting and maybe not quite such a heavy handed approach. it does to other groups. >> it does feel a bit like the government are asking people to not believe the evidence of their own eyes and ears, doesn't it? i mean, both with the with the denial that there is any two tier policing and also with the idea that he just did this because he was in a hurry. yeah. >> well, indeed, as i say, that thatis >> well, indeed, as i say, that that is scotland yard's response to what he did. >> and he didn't even directly, reference it, but just said that he was in a hurry, but in terms of two tier policing, clearly people have a mind back to what happenedin people have a mind back to what happened in harehills and leeds when that rioting broke out there, police cars damaged an overturned a bus set on fire, bncks overturned a bus set on fire, bricks and other missiles thrown at those officers. now, a lot of that may be, you could argue, was put can be put down to them not having enough resources in place at that time. and being

caught by surprise. but it comes against a backdrop backdrop of what, you know , people do see as what, you know, people do see as a different approach. for instance , as a video that's got instance, as a video that's got quite a lot of traction on social media over the weekend. that shows a police liaison officer in stoke telling a group officer in stoke telling a group of muslim men there that they should, if they are planning to, to go and confront other protesters, leave any weapons they have at the mosque. which just seems utterly bizarre to me, that any police officer would even say that to a group. so may i ask? >> so we've heard from the prime minister now three times, i believe, in the last couple of days or so, and he hasn't mentioned any other violence , mentioned any other violence, protests, riots from any other community, as it were, other than the far right thugs, why do

you suppose that is? and is that a problem going forward in how they deal and handle with these types of outbreaks? >> well, the far right thugs is their narrative that they want to hammer home, that they believe that all of the disorder that we're seeing is, you know , that we're seeing is, you know, or disorder that has been brought about by the far right. >> and i think we said on this channel, on multiple occasions that that i think mischaracterises what's happening here. yes, of course, there are members of the far right in and about that and instigating and antagonising a situation. but what they are doing is they are moving into an area where they have fertile ground and lots of angry people for all of the issues that we've discussed before about people seeing a degradate degradation in the social fabric of their particular community, of issues

around multiculturalism and mass migration, that has got people very angry in different communities. now, there's no excuse for violence of course there's not. but it does come up against that background and that backdrop, which is difficult to discuss because you then get shouted down as somehow excusing the violence that we've just said is completely unacceptable. >> and the prime minister is, as emily said, you know, he's he's not mentioned the muslim groups who have been reported even in the in the papers as , as the in the papers as, as clashing with the, far right protesters. nor the possible far left elements within, the counter—protest, although obviously we've seen some of those seem to be carrying weapons. so whether we describe that as a protest, i, i don't know. but, he seems to be, you know, excluding that from his

communications with the public and hopefully that only adds to the perception, that the government are not, you know, being completely straightforward with the british public. >> yeah. i mean, it's a complex and difficult situation out there in towns , in multiple there in towns, in multiple locations now where some are just, protests that have spilled over into violence. some have clearly been orchestrated with significant numbers of known troublemakers, others are situations where rival groups and you mentioned the, anti—racism groups who are made up themselves of complex groups. yes. you've got concerned citizens in there, but you've also got, far left individuals , also got, far left individuals, antifa and, you know , lots of antifa and, you know, lots of other people within these, these

groups that are looking for trouble in the same way that those on the other side have elements that are looking for trouble and disorder, too . trouble and disorder, too. >> well, it's a very complex picture. thank you very much indeed. picture. thank you very much indeed . mark white, our homeland indeed. mark white, our homeland security editor there. now coming up, the bbc is looking at all options on whether huw edwards should turn the £200,000 he received after he was arrested and before he left the bbc. whether she'd give it back. i assume that's to come after the headlines with sam . the headlines with sam. >> very good afternoon to you . >> very good afternoon to you. 1:33. the top story this lunchtime. the prime minister says a so—called standing army of police will respond to disorder on the streets. sir keir starmer has been speaking after chairing today's emergency meeting of the government's cobra committee. take a listen . cobra committee. take a listen. >> in relation to the police, i am absolutely clear that we will have the officers we need, where

we need them to deal with this disorder, and that is why the standing army has been set up, specialist officers ready to be deployed to support communities on the question of prisons. firstly, we're monitoring it on a daily basis. i'm appalled that we've been put in this position by the previous government. that is even a discussion. it's even a question that you have to ask me. but we will make this work and ensure that we've got the places that are needed to bring the perpetrators swiftly to justice. >> and overnight in rotherham alone, six arrests have been made and one person has been charged after at least 12 police officers were injured during disorder outside a hotel that comes now six days after three girls were killed in a stabbing spree in southport. police also say they expect the number to increase significantly in the coming days . and it comes as

coming days. and it comes as a wave of other people have also been appearing in court in cities across the country charged with the ongoing unrest overnight in rotherham as i mentioned, there six people arrested, 12 police officers injured. meanwhile, a 14 year old boy we understand has also pleaded guilty to violent disorder in liverpool, while a judge in belfast has described scenes there as absolutely disgraceful . a hospital in disgraceful. a hospital in portsmouth has now reopened after having to close its a&e unit because of a power outage. the queen alexandra declared a major incident this morning, which led to a number of procedures being cancelled. phone lines also went down but they are now back up and running . they are now back up and running. police investigating the suspected murder of a dog walker in suffolk have identified two new areas of interest. 57 year old anita rose was found injured and unconscious in brantham on the 24th of july. she later died in hospital . cordons are now in in hospital. cordons are now in place in the new mill lane area,

and three people arrested in connection with the incident have all been bailed and team gb have all been bailed and team gb have claimed olympic bronze in the triathlon. mixed team relay today. despite initially being announced as silver medallists, officials changed their minds after studying the photo finish. elsewhere, though, there was disappointment for pole vaulter molly cowdrey, who failed to make the final . those are the make the final. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sam francis back with you just after 2:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts

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>> well good afternoon britain. it's1:39 and the >> well good afternoon britain. it's 1:39 and the government it's1:39 and the government wants huw edwards to return the £200,000 he received after he was arrested and before he left the bbc. >> it comes after the broadcaster begins to remove huw edwards from its archive. >> so i can't get my words out. it's archive footage after the former broadcaster pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children, so they're already removing him from the archives . removing him from the archives. >> interesting. we're joined by gb news reporter adam cherry live from downing street. adam this sounds quite the story. so the government are getting involved to say, hang on, you need to give back that money. >> yeah. so in the last hour, downing street explicitly condemning huw edwards for his for his actions, saying the prime minister is appalled by what he has learned and they think it's appropriate that or in some way they try and claw back some of the money that huw edwards was paid in between being arrested in november and actually resigning in april,

which, as you say, amounts to about £200,000. this is echoing the language we heard from the culture secretary over the weekend, who said she thinks it's appropriate that he that he repays that sum and has spoken to tim davie, the bbc director—general, on this, tim davie, saying it's going to be very difficult to claw back any of that money at all just because of the way things work. he was legally entitled to it and he claimed it. whether that was a moral thing for him to do is another question, but there we are. he also is entitled to a gold plated £300,000 a year pension , which he also looks at pension, which he also looks at to claim. so it's not all bad news for him, i suppose, and the downing street nonetheless said they are. they still have full confidence in tim davie. despite this, despite his knowing of huw edwards arrest in november and keeping him keeping him on the payroll until he resigned several months later. so there we are. so he will continue to

claim that money, he's still sitting on a hefty nest egg and, and the bbc don't feel like feel like they're in a position to do anything about it. >> now, of all of his moral failings, his decision to keep taking that money is obviously not up there, but it's quite bad, of course, that he continued to take that when he must have known that he was probably going to be found guilty because he knew what he had done. but you mentioned the pension there. what what can be done about that pension? because i'm sure licence fee payers are not going to be happy, to see their money continuing to go to, supporting the lifestyle of a convicted paedophile . convicted paedophile. >> you're right. i mean, it's absolutely shocking . and as absolutely shocking. and as i say the least, excuse me? the culture secretary, lisa nandy, has said to tim davie look at ways of cancelling that or recouping some of that. but at the moment it doesn't appear there is any mechanism to do that. so we are where we are. he

will continue to claim it . will continue to claim it. >> thank you very much indeed . >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. >> adam cherry, gb news reporter. with that news that the government wants huw edwards to pay £200,000 of his salary, back , i guess the issue with back, i guess the issue with this type of thing is that it's contractual . the money's already contractual. the money's already been paid. not much. if it's not against the law, then i guess it would be down to goodwill on the on the part of huw edwards to give it back. they can't just extract it from his bank account, but nonetheless, clearly, you know, governments wants to get involved in all this. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean it's surely it's got to reignite conversations about the licence fee and so on because people are going to be really, really unhappy about this money going to huw edwards, but like you say, there isn't a great deal that the bbc could legally have done. and if he had been found innocent, then they would have been in a lot of trouble if they had not paid him his salary. so i think it's a bit of a tricky one. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> not just the taxpayer, not just the government, but i

imagine the bbc newsroom too, having to report on all this and then also learning of that huge amount of salary that was still paid . while the bbc had been paid. while the bbc had been told about these allegations . told about these allegations. but there you go. that's how it goes. the huw edwards scandal rumbles on. but yes, the government wants huw edwards to repay this £200,000 of his salary. >> well, coming up, we'll be bringing you more on the government's reaction to the violent protests. >> plus meghan markle . she's >> plus meghan markle. she's discussing her mental health in the royal couple's latest sit down interview. since that fateful oprah one. that's to come very shortly

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weather on gb news. >> welcome back. it's ten minutes to two now on our last story that the government wants huw edwards to return the £200,000 that he received after he was arrested, graham says. what a shocking scandal. of course he should return the taxpayers money. of course, that was the news that huw edwards has pled guilty to making indecent images of children. >> yes, please do keep your views coming in. whether that £200,000 will be returned waits to be seen. of course, this stuff is all contractual, but moving on meghan markle has said she hopes opening up about her suicidal thoughts and online bullying will help others. >> this was during an interview on sunday morning where she and prince harry sat down to talk about their new project. >> yes, the duke and duchess of sussex's project is to help support parents who have lost a child to online harm. >> the project comes three years after meghan revealed her own

mental health struggles during their interview with oprah winfrey. >> okay, well , joining us now is >> okay, well, joining us now is royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. richard, thank you very much indeed for coming on the show this afternoon. this interview, the first of its kind since that fateful oprah interview, which i believe was interview, which i believe was in 2021. correct me if i'm wrong and what are they trying to do here? do you suspect ? here? do you suspect? >> well, i think that there are a couple of agendas at play. firstly obviously they're trying to do good with the parents network because there is a danger of an online harm . and danger of an online harm. and one has to say that i think it's a thoroughly laudable project. it links, however, to something else, and that is their proposed trip. it will be perhaps later in the summer, to colombia. now thatis in the summer, to colombia. now that is linked with a conference that is linked with a conference that they're holding in colombia, the international ending of violence against our children conference. and that is

they will be there will be attending events which will be leading up to that. apparently they've been invited by the colombian vice president. now, there are those who've questioned the security implications because harry has implied that it's too dangerous for him and his family in britain. yet they went to nigeria in may and colombia also is very, very questionable . is very, very questionable. although i have to say, britain at the moment is hardly an example that one would, so to speak, hold up when it comes to, matters dealing with civil strife. but there's no doubt about whatsoever that there's a difficulty here. i think , with difficulty here. i think, with the royal family, because normally, as you know, a royal trip abroad is something that's very, very important. and king charles and queen camilla and the prince and princess of wales would undoubtedly be doing them periodically as the late queen elizabeth did, and so

successfully. but sadly, king charles and the princess of wales are battling cancer. and therefore, though the king will be attending chogrm and also australia, but not new zealand in october, and the waleses have no future travel plans. there's little doubt that the sussexes are taking advantage of that. they might well be doing this anyway, but they will get an enormous boost so far as media coverage is concerned. i think, when it comes to colombia. so the two things, the charitable aspect of it and their travel plans , are linked. plus, in my plans, are linked. plus, in my opinion, an unnecessary clip from an oprah interview, which was very, very controversial and rocked the royal family. >> richard, they almost seem to be setting themselves up as a as a rival court. >> well, there is a sense, of course, in which there's rivalry

because, as you know, there's such a deep rift in the royal family. everything they do is news equally , since oprah, they news equally, since oprah, they haven't done that much . nigeria haven't done that much. nigeria was successful as a trip after meghan discovered she was 43% nigerian and nigeria just joined in the invictus games, which is harry's creation and it's hoping apparently to host it with colombia. the vice president said that archewell, the sussexes charity , was a world sussexes charity, was a world leader in the field of fight against online harm. i think since archewell was only founded in 2020 and that that is , an in 2020 and that that is, an exaggeration . exaggeration. >> and, richard, meanwhile, lots of reports that the relationship between prince harry and his father is all but non—existent . father is all but non—existent. reports that apparently the king simply isn't answering any phone calls that are coming from prince harry, and what's all this about , then? this about, then? >> yes, indeed. i think you're

referring to, sources who've been quoted in the magazine people, which is favourable to the sussexes and the implication is and a very strong difference on the issue of security, whereas harry apparently is said to believe that the king would or could intervene on his behalf when they stepped down as senior working royals, they knew they'd lose automatic security. equally, he's appealing against this decision and he's had the right to take it to the court of appeal right to take it to the court of appeal, so it's probably that, among other issues in the past, i'm afraid to. there are plenty of them. >> yes , absolutely. well, thank >> yes, absolutely. well, thank you very much indeed. richard fitzwilliams , always fantastic fitzwilliams, always fantastic to speak to you, royal commentator, it is awfully sad, isn't it, the way that their relationship has just, well become almost strange. no. no relationship with the grandchildren and or with their parents. >> i mean, they're completely isolated themselves. very, very

strange. i must say. that's one of the best backgrounds i've seen on any any zoom call. >> what? >> what? >> on richard's? yeah. he's always very smart, very grand, always very smart, very grand, always very smart and grand, as always very smart and grand, as always . richard fitzwilliams. always. richard fitzwilliams. we've got so much more to come . we've got so much more to come. now, this is a question. is unregulated social media disinformation wrecking britain? the former conservative mp miriam cates, is going to join us to debate that very question. there have been lots of accusations of social media whipping up the violent protests we've seen over the last few days, whipping up misinformation , days, whipping up misinformation, disinformation, causing flash points . is social disinformation, causing flash points. is social media to blame, or are people and politics and failures of government are to blame ? or government are to blame? or a bit of both? >> we'll see. when we speak to miriam cates a little bit later. >> i know miriam cates has written a pretty punchy article, punchy article on this, about how social media is fanning the flames. let us get your thoughts in. first, though, i want to

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well good afternoon britain . it is now afternoon britain. it is now 2:00 on monday the 5th of august. i'm emily carver and i'm emma webb. summer of discontent keir starmer says a new standing army of specialist police officers will be deployed around the country to crack down on rioters. it comes as he cancels his holiday violent riots escalate across the country. should parliament now be recalled. >> and one week on, as the community grieves the murder of three girls against the backdrop of nationwide disorder, we will be live from southport with the latest and i haven't scrapped. >> scrapped scraped the surface . >> scrapped scraped the surface. those are the words of meghan markle discussing her mental health in the royal couple's latest sit down interview .

latest sit down interview. yes, well, we heard a little bit from sir keir starmer, a little bit earlier and he made a few things clear, he obviously talked about how support for police officers who've been injured, support for communities affected, and this talk of a standing army of specialist officers , and also choice of officers, and also choice of words . yes. interesting choice words. yes. interesting choice of words as a standing army. no, we're not going to be drafting in the army at this point, but an army, a standing army of police officers, so many people have actually been calling for him to send in the army and i think many people like me will have initially misheard and thought , did have initially misheard and thought, did he just say that he's going to send in the army? >> no, he's not sending in the army. they are special. a special type of police officer that he's describing as his standing army. >> yes, it's interesting, isn't it? and then also the concern around spaces in prisons now , around spaces in prisons now, last time i checked, there were

only 700 spaces in male prisons in the entirety of england. that's not a lot. of course, there are a lot of other people committing crimes in this country that has nothing to do with these violent protests that we're seeing currently. so where are all these? it's going to come down hard. he wants to come down hard on anyone who's been involved in anyone who's been seen to be inciting this online to there could be huge number of arrests. you're going to come down hard, you're going to need prison cells. and of course, dunng prison cells. and of course, during those earlier protests, previous protests, one of the reasons they said of not, you know, not being able to make mass arrests is because there isn't enough space a bit like the nhs. >> you need to make sure there's a bed for you. there needs to be somewhere for these people to go. and they've shown now that actually the government does have the power to, to take some action to increase capacity, to be able to make those arrests. >> well, and come september, if you remember, the early release scheme comes into effect, we're going to have lots, thousands , thousands. >> so that's going to be prisoners or prisoners sent back out. >> i'm smiling when i could be crying. really, be released

early . some crying. really, be released early. some only 40% of their term in prison that they've served. so they'll be out. but interested to know your thoughts on all this, particularly what keir starmer has been saying. and also that clip that we showed you a little earlier of mark rowley, the met police chief, grabbing the microphone off the press, did you think he just looked like he was in a rush? >> that's the way people behave acceptably when they're in a rush. just a little rush. >> gb news communaute. but let's get the headlines with sam francis . francis. >> very good afternoon to you. just after 2:00, the top story this afternoon, the prime minister is warning that those inciting violence across england could face prison time. that's following a weekend of unrest dunng following a weekend of unrest during this morning's emergency. cobra meeting, sir keir starmer promised additional police resource and says they are being deployed nationwide in relation to the police . to the police. >> i am absolutely clear that we

will have the officers we need, where we need them to deal with this disorder and that is why the standing army has been set up. specialist officers ready to be deployed to support communities on the question of prisons. firstly, we're monitoring it on a daily basis. i'm appalled that we've been put in this position by the previous government. that is even a discussion. it's even a question that you have to ask me. but we will make this work and ensure that we've got the places that are needed to bring the perpetrators swiftly to justice. >> sir keir starmer is also warning that those inciting violence online is being taken just as seriously as offline. it comes as a wave of people have appeared in courts across the country, charged with the ongoing unrest overnight in rotherham alone, six arrests were made and one person has now been charged . that's after at been charged. that's after at least 12 people there, 12 officers rather were injured dunng officers rather were injured during disorder outside a hotel. meanwhile, a 14 year old boy has

pleaded guilty to violent disorder in liverpool, while a judge in belfast has described scenes there as absolutely disgraceful . a hospital in disgraceful. a hospital in portsmouth has now reopened after having to close its a&e unit earlier because of a power outage. the queen alexandra declared a major incident this morning, which led to a number of procedures being cancelled. phone lines also went down but they are now back up and running . they are now back up and running. family members of british embassy workers in beirut have been evacuated from the region amid fears of an all out war between israel and lebanon. the government's also renewing calls for all british citizens to leave immediately, with the military understood to be on standby to get people out of the middle east. tensions in the region are high after leaders of the lebanese militant group hezbollah and hamas were assassinated last week . pharmacy assassinated last week. pharmacy bosses are urging people not to buy fake weight loss jabs online. they're warning of a possible explosion in unlicensed

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cricketer and coach graham thorpe has died at the age of 55. he played 100 tests for his county in a 13 year international career. the england cricket team's remembered him as one of the finest ever players and a beloved member of the cricket family . those are the latest gb family. those are the latest gb news headlines for now , i'm sam news headlines for now, i'm sam francis. you're next update just after half past two for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> right good afternoon britain. it's 2:08 and the prime minister has held an emergency cobra meeting today after what was a weekend of violent riots. >> following that meeting, met

commissioner, met police commissioner, met police commissioner, even sorry sir mark rowley grabbed a journalist's microphone when he was asked a question about two tier policing. >> yes, well, we're joined by gb news home security editor to tell us more. mark white, what on earth happened here? >> well, this was completely out of character. i think , for the of character. i think, for the met commissioner , who is pretty met commissioner, who is pretty mild mannered to say the least. but he was leaving cobra that emergency meeting a little earlier , and he was asked by earlier, and he was asked by a reporter, a question about two tier policing clearly didn't like the question because he grabbed the microphone. you can see for yourself exactly what happened. >> are we going two tier policing, sir? >> so there's enough force there that it pulls the microphone from its handle and effectively, then pulls it from the cable as

well, and the sound goes dead. i know that reporter rob. who works with sky news, and you could see he was looking pretty surprised at just being left with the handle of his microphone there. we've had a statement from the metropolitan police who basically say that the meeting was very positive, so no suggestion that he'd had a hard time in the cobra meeting. and then with regard to not directly addressing the commissioner's grabbing of the reporter's microphone, they did say he was in a bit of a hurry to get back to scotland yard to begin implementing what they discussed at cobra. >> i know speculation is not something you'd never want to imagine yourself in. mark rowley's mind, but if he hasn't had a bad meeting and even if he is in a rush, doesn't excuse what he did. so if he wasn't just disgruntled because of the

meeting and sort of lashed out at this journalist, presumably was disgruntled by the question about two tier policing and the message that sends to the public, surely, is that the police don't want to be held accountable for the way that they're policing these protests and riots. >> well, the police have said, and yes, you're right, i think he will not like being asked about two tier policing because he is seeing his front line officers facing up to violent scenes in trying to manage protests. and he will argue, as he has always done, that the police, without fear or favour . police, without fear or favour. however, he can say that the prime minister can say that as he did again after that cobra meeting, saying there is no two tier policing, but there is a perception from many across the country that they've seen one group of people policed quite robustly at times . another group robustly at times. another group

of people who are dealt with with kid gloves effectively. >> in previous protests, one of the reasons given for why the police didn't, didn't interfere, intervene more robustly was because there were such large numbers. you know, it could have it could have actually triggered some kind of disorder, like the disorder that we're seeing, like the rioting. do you think maybe they miscalculated? there decision to actually be quite heavy handed initially with those protesting and it has then escalated in this way. and so perhaps in that cobra meeting, one of the things that they might have been discussing is whether they miscalculated what they expected to be the response of those protesters. and that perhaps they have sort of, strategically gone about this the wrong way. >> yeah. i mean , i think what >> yeah. i mean, i think what we're seeing in a number of towns and cities now is not really a response to the policing of those protests, per se . i think there's definitely

se. i think there's definitely elements within there and within those protests that were looking for trouble. but what we've always said in the week now , always said in the week now, really since this has become a really since this has become a real live issue, is that there is a backdrop to this. there is a well of anger building up in communities right across the country of what they see as a disintegration of the social fabnc disintegration of the social fabric of a feeling and an increasing feeling that they're forgotten, that life just isn't fair. and in that, given that backdrop, it makes any potential protest more volatile. if there are elements in there who are determined to cause trouble and to make sure that a protest kicks off, if you want to put it that way , then there's fertile that way, then there's fertile ground in there. there are angry people there, so situations can escalate . people can get caught escalate. people can get caught up in it, never having intended really to go out and cause

trouble. but the level of anger that communities face while, as i say all of the time, we've got to acknowledge there is no excuse for this kind of violence that we're seeing, there's also just this backdrop that we've got to be mindful of. it doesn't come in isolation. this has been building for a long period of time and does the prime minister understand that because he's been very good at condemning the violent outbreaks that we've seen ? seen? >> well, you'd like to called out the thuggery. >> yeah, but he hasn't spoken about anything to do with perhaps government failures or perhaps government failures or perhaps with underlying tensions. he's stayed away from that mark, which is not what he did with previous protests. >> he acknowledged the underlying reasons why there might be unrest. >> well, you're right, i think in the in the in light of the riots in harehills in leeds that were, you know, there was talks about, you know, the need to engage with the community and all of the above. you've not had

that same dialogue here because what you've got is a government trying to take control of the situation and very robustly saying there is no excuse at for all this. this is wanton violence, thuggish behaviour, and that is the narrative that they have adopted. there is no space at the moment from what the government is saying to acknowledge that there needs to be a wider conversation. now, it might be that once this situation is under control and we have a good few days or a week or so of no trouble , then week or so of no trouble, then you'll get the government able to engage in a more meaningful way about the wider issues. but he's not in that frame of mind at the moment. he's just purely talking about the need for law and order in these areas, for the police to get a grip of the violence in these towns and cities. >> yes, because you can crack down now and you can put the lid on things now. but preventing

this from happening again is a much bigger and much more difficult question. thank you very much. gb news home and security editor mark white. >> now let's head to rotherham, where hotels, housing migrants or asylum seekers even were targeted over the weekend. we're live joined now by a gb news reporter, anna riley . reporter, anna riley. >> good afternoon. yes, the clean up continues here at the houdayinn clean up continues here at the holiday inn express in rotherham, where 750 protesters gathered yesterday at this hotel, which was housing 240 asylum seekers. a small minority of those protesters turned violent. they attacked police who were in riot gear. 12 police officers were injured. one of them was rendered unconscious and so far six arrests have been made, with one person being charged. but south yorkshire police have said today expect

more arrests to come just in terms of the scene behind us, we can see that windows have been smashed through across the hotel. some of these windows have now been boarded up . have now been boarded up. earlier, the council and volunteers from the community gathered together to clear up the mess. we can still see behind us. there's a burnt out wheelie bin which was set alight and that was used to start a fire within the hotel as well as people here throwing bricks and missiles at the hotel, which had those 240 asylum seekers inside. they've now been moved on to another safe location. but it's left the community here quite rocked about what's happened and quite shocked we spoke to sarah knowles earlier. she was part of the cleanup and this is what she told us. >> i've come down because of the mess. the awful stuff that happened yesterday. my kids could see it from the house, so we thought we'd come down and help out with the clear up. it's

needed. >> how did it make you feel when you saw what was going on? what were the scenes? >> to be honest, it's the first time i've ever been scared in my house, and my children were upset last night. it took them a long time to get to sleep . it's long time to get to sleep. it's just really sad. really sad. what could you see from your window. i could see manvers way really clearly, so i could see the riot police across the road. and it was basically youths in balaclavas ripping trees down fence posts up and throwing them at the police. we haven't had any issues with the residents from the hotel at all, i think this was an excuse. this was just an excuse for violence and a lot of the people that came here today don't live off the estate, and they just wanted to come and cause trouble . come and cause trouble. >> resident sarah giving her account there of what she saw yesterday. and as well as that violence spilling out here at the hotel, she told us how it spilt out onto the street that she lived on with people's

windows smashed in houses as well as people's cars being targeted. and in fact, the whole road next to this hotel was shut off from the morning to the afternoon as that riot had broken out onto the streets with lots of debris and rocks being cleared by people like sarah and by councils as well. and with the police still having that message of if you were involved in this , we will find you and we in this, we will find you and we will punish you . okay. will punish you. okay. >> well, thank you very much indeed. anna riley, there , our indeed. anna riley, there, our reporter, up in rotherham. thank you. hearing that from that eyewitness there, you know, you're in your home, you think you're in your home, you think you're safe and then that's on the on the street corner. you can see it from your own windows. what do you say to your children now? >> it must be so frightening for children to not only hear that this has happened to other children in their area, but then to be faced with this kind of unrest. i mean, for a child, you'd think the world was coming to an end, wouldn't you? >> yeah. terrifying not surprised. it took her a while to get to sleep. gush anyway, coming up is unregulated social

media disinformation wrecking britain . that's the debate we're britain. that's the debate we're having after this

>> good afternoon britain. it is 2:23 now. former conservative mp tobias ellwood has accused the spread of online misinformation for fuelling the unrest and violence in the uk. yes, the former chairman of the defence select committee believes anyone using social media should be charged a fee for posting and therefore directly accountable for the messages they publish . for the messages they publish. >> yet some would argue that onune >> yet some would argue that online anonymity preserves the existence of free speech. >> now >> now joining >> now joining us >> now joining us is >> now joining us is former conservative mp miriam cates, who has argued in the telegraph recently that unregulated social media disinformation is wrecking

britain. and also with us is journalist and podcaster will kingston, who feels that social media companies are not to blame. so miriam , let's let's blame. so miriam, let's let's start with you. why do you feel that? this misinformation online is having such a negative impact on the country ? on the country? >> afternoon. >> afternoon. >> well, firstly, that wasn't actually my headline. >> i wrote the piece in the telegraph, put the headline in. >> i don't think it really captured what i was trying to say. >> so i do think disinformation is a problem, but i think it's more about how social media operates. >> and look, i believe in free speech. >> i absolutely support free speech. >> i was one of the mps in parliament who fought to get the free speech bill through that. labour have now cancelled, but the problem is that on social media, speech doesn't operate within the normal rolls at rules that human relationships do. so throughout all time. you can say whatever you like, but you have to face the consequences so you can say what you like in your marriage. but if you say everything, you think you probably won't be married very long. you can say everything you like in your workplace, but if you say everything that comes into your head, you probably won't have a job for very long.

and that's part of the natural accountability of human relationships and community and society. and it's really important you have to temper your speech and how you say it in order to preserve relationships and keep the peace. that's a good thing. you shouldn't not say what you think, but you need to do it in a good way. the trouble with social media is it removes all those natural human societal boundanes those natural human societal boundaries because you can be anonymous and you're not experiencing the body language and the emotions of the person you're speaking to. now, that might sound really soft, but actually good relationships are fundamental to a high trust society, and my feeling is that actual social media is a big part of wrecking the high trust society because we see all these horrible arguments, disgusting comments that people would neven comments that people would never, ever make to each other's faces and it just it just contributes to this kind of degrading of our discourse, as well as making politicians dumb down their arguments and not have proper debates. so it's not misinformation is a problem, but i think it's more about the unnatural way that discourse happens on social media and the way that that's poisoning debate.

>> i think that's a very good point on the impact on politics. i wonder sometimes whether mps and politicians would do things differently if it weren't for the existence of social media and the backlash they get for various things, but will that exact experience myself, where i've had a long debate with somebody on the on a radio program, let's say, and then the radio station chooses the clip, a 32nd clip that's completely unrepresentative of what i've said. >> it's then gone viral. i've had all sorts of abuse, and people misunderstanding and exactly that is exactly the problem with social media has a chilling effect. >> chilling effect, you have to be a very strong person to stand up against it, will kingston of course, this all comes in the context of what we've seen in this country in recent days . this country in recent days. widespread violent civil unrest, essentially, and violent crime. a lot of accusations coming from the government as well, that social media needs to get a grip on this because they're fanning the flames. do you buy into that narrative? >> not really. i'd start by

saying the bigger problem is dumb politicians, not politicians , dumbing things politicians, dumbing things down, but above and beyond that. >> this i agree with miriam entirely that disinformation is a problem. >> but as with almost every attempt to curtail free speech, which, make no mistake, this does. >> the cure would be worse than the disease. my argument is very simple. i think if we. >> this would lead to less speech, which in turn would take us further away from the truth, which is how we got into this mess in the first place. >> this would mean that less ordinary, everyday people would feel confident posting their thoughts on social media because they're afraid of woke hr department are going to come after them. this would mean that less political dissidence would be making comments online because they're afraid of an authoritarian, authoritarian government . and make no mistake government. and make no mistake that that is not just a third world argument anymore. that is an argument for keir starmer britain, particularly if we see islamophobia laws come down the pipe islamophobia laws come down the pipe for too long the problem has been a lack of speech, a

lack of debate, because people have been shamed into silence on the issues around mass migration, on the issues of a lack of cultural integration, because they've been told by a ruling political and media elite that it ruling political and media elite thatitis ruling political and media elite that it is racist to have these conversations. i understand the dangers around anonymity. i myself put my. >> but hang on, will. there was the accusation. >> there was the accusation though. was there not that dangerous misinformation had been put out and shared online after the brutal murder of those three girls, there was a lot put out about how the suspect was a recent asylum seeker who had just come over on a boat in recent months that turned out not to be true. that is the sort of thing that can be dangerous. surely >> sure. but as i said, the cure is worse. worse than the disease. and there are other things that we can do which would be more effective. the community note feature on twitter, i think, is a good step and can be improved. i think the algorithms can be improved and most importantly, i think the

mainstream media can do their job better, can report better, and then use social media channels to get the accurate information out there as opposed to leaving a vacuum for misinformation to spread. i think this is an argument for the mainstream media to do their job. miriam >> will's right, isn't he, that the cure may be worse than the disease that actually the medicine being prescribed here might be poisonous ? might be poisonous? >> well, i think the medicine being prescribed by some, which is censorship, or for the government or tech companies to crack down on certain forms of speech. i'm absolutely against that. i agree with will, because we all know which way it will go. you won't be allowed to talk about gender. you won't be allowed to talk about race. you won't be allowed to talk about religion. it will be silicon valley's version of what's sanitised to speak about. so i think we have to avoid that at all costs. but i think the way we do avoid that is to get people to take responsibility for their speech. and i think we just need to think back. two decades before social media, we did have free speech, but what most people didn't have was reach. so ordinary individuals

could say what they like. but it doesn't go further than the pub or their family or their community. and the people who did have reach the people who had power. politicians, journalists , broadcasters had journalists, broadcasters had serious consequences. if they abused that speech, they could be put in prison, they could be chucked out of parliament, they could be fined . and that's still could be fined. and that's still the case with mainstream traditional media. we haven't found a way of encouraging people on social media to take responsibility for their speech . responsibility for their speech. >> miriam, just on that point, just sorry to interrupt, but miriam, just on that point, because keir starmer has come out quite strongly today to say that if you are inciting violence or protest riots, online, then the law will come down on you just as hard as if you were there at those protests, setting things on fire and harassing people from minority communities. do you think that's right? do you think a speech online can ever be as dangerous as actually physically being there at a riot and

engaging in criminal activity? >> yes, absolutely. i think it can be more so because the reach is so rapid and so wide and this is so rapid and so wide and this is what we have to do with the internet. we haven't got our heads around this yet. we have to have the same rules, boundaries, consequences, norms and laws apply online as we do offline. and the same societal boundanes offline. and the same societal boundaries that that have served us so well for a millennium or more. we have to find a way of translating them online so that it's not such a wild west, so that predators and liars can't, rule over everybody else like they do at the moment. but if we don't sort that out by personal responsibility, which is essentially what i'm arguing for, we will have an authoritarian response. and i think we need to avoid that at all costs. but the only way to do that is for people to take responsibility for what they say. and they only way they will do that is if they are somehow can be found out for what they say, which is normal human relationships. that's how relationships. that's how relationships work . anonymity is relationships work. anonymity is not a kind of normal thing that's happened for all of time. well, just on that. >> well, may i just put that to

will because we're running out of time. will the anonymity question a lot of people will argue that actually that provides protection to people that would otherwise not be able to speak out. >> and that's exactly. and that's exactly right. whether it be the person who's afraid of being shamed at their job or the being shamed at theirjob or the political dissident, or even say , political dissident, or even say, the person struggling with their sexuality, who wants to have a safe to space speak to without revealing their identity. but i'd add one more thing, which goes to an authoritarian response. and that's how on earth do you actually implement this without turning into some sort of chinese style surveillance state with the social media tech giants owning all of your private information? even if everything we've said holds true? i can't see how you actually implement this in a way which isn't an enormous encroachment on individual liberties and privacy. >> well, thank you very much indeed. >> well, thank you very much indeed . former conservative mp indeed. former conservative mp miriam cates. thank you. and journalist and podcaster will kingston. lots of food for thought. there indeed. >> now coming up, the latest from downing street as met chief sir mark rowley rips a microphone from a reporter's

hand following that cobra meeting. that's all coming after your headlines with sam . your headlines with sam. >> very good afternoon to you . >> very good afternoon to you. 232 exactly the top story this afternoon. the prime minister says a so—called standing army of police will crack down on rioting on the streets, as he's today called for perpetrators to be named and shamed. sir keir starmer has been speaking after chairing an emergency meeting of the government's cobra committee . the government's cobra committee. >> in relation to the police, i am absolutely clear that we will have the officers we need, where we need them to deal with this disorder and that is why the standing army has been set up, specialist officers ready to be deployed to support communities. on the question of prisons, firstly, we're monitoring it on a daily basis. i'm appalled that we've been put in this position by the previous government. that

is even a discussion. it's even a question that you have to ask me. but we will make this work and ensure that we've got the places that are needed to bring the perpetrators swiftly to justice. >> sir keir starmer's comments come as a wave of people have appeared in courts across the country charged over the ongoing unrest . overnight country charged over the ongoing unrest. overnight in country charged over the ongoing unrest . overnight in rotherham unrest. overnight in rotherham alone, six arrests were made and one person has now been charged. that's after at least 12 police officers were injured there dunng officers were injured there during disorder outside a hotel. meanwhile, a 14 year old boy has pleaded guilty to violent disorder in liverpool, while a judge in belfast has described scenes there as absolutely disgraceful . a hospital in disgraceful. a hospital in portsmouth has now reopened after having to close its a&e unit because of a power outage. the queen alexandra declared a major incident this morning, which led to a number of procedures being cancelled. phone lines also went down but they are now back up and running . they are now back up and running. and team gb have claimed olympic bronze in the triathlon mixed

team relay. despite initially being announced a silver medallist, officials changed their minds after studying the photo finish elsewhere, though, there was disappointment for pole vaulter molly cowdrey, who failed to make the final . those failed to make the final. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm sam francis sophia wenzler. we'll have your next update at 3:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash

>> good afternoon britain. it is 2:38 now. the prime minister sir keir starmer, has said policing in the uk is conducted without fear or favour, adding that those engaged in the violence seen over the weekend will feel

the full force of the law. now let's get the thoughts of the head of public policy at christian concern , tim dyer. christian concern, tim dyer. now, tim, there's already talk of bringing in this islamophobia definition as a response to these riots. and many people will be concerned that will have negative impact on freedom of expression. what do you think about those concerns? >> yeah, well, i've been concerned about this for quite some time. >> emma. the appg definition, which is the definition that people are talking about, proposed by the all party parliamentary group on british muslims, reads that islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of muslimness, or perceived muslimness. and straight away you can see many problems with that. first of all, islam is not a race, so calling it racism isn't right, and secondly, it's talking about this vague term muslim ness, whatever that means. it could encompass all sorts of things, beliefs or practices, and then it goes to on say perceived

muslimness. so really, it's anything that somebody perceives to be islamophobic, which could well include criticism of islamic beliefs or practices, which, anybody who's not a muslim would, would, should be free to say, i disagree with islamic practices or disagree with beliefs or, for example, that mohammed is not a prophet, or mohammed did immoral things like fighting in wars and battles and kill lots of non—muslims and so on, so i'm very concerned that, making this definition law would effectively be an islamic blasphemy code. i wrote a report earlier this year for the free speech union called islamophobia banning islamophobia banning islamophobia blasphemy by the back door. richard dawkins wrote the forward to it. so it's widely agreed that this is a problematic definition. but another problem is it's been very widely adopted, and it's not least by political parties themselves. in fact, the labour party has formally adopted this definition of islamophobia, as part of its code of conduct. so any labour mp, any, any member of the labour party who says something that is, criticising

perceived muslimness risks being suspended from the party or disciplined for that. and so you already have an effective sort of blasphemy code or, you know, restriction on what people can say about islam in the labour party amongst the majority of mps in parliament. and that's already very concerning to me. >> you can see why this is coming up again, though, considering that in recent days mosques have been the target of violent protests and intimidation, worshippers in those mosques, feeling intimidated with, you know, mobs, mobs of thugs outside, i mean, what do you do to protect people exercising their faith in a free country without adopting such a prescriptive definition or the themes that we have seen across the country over the last weekend have been absolutely horrific and appalling and heartbreaking. >> and it's criminal activity,

whether it's violence or vandalism of any kind, it's already against the law . so what already against the law. so what we need to do is enforce the law as it stands against every person, no matter what their creed or race or age or whatever it might be. you know , everybody it might be. you know, everybody should face the full consequence of the law for this horrific scenes, that people have seen all over the country. and i hope they do. and i hope they face those proper consequences, what i'm concerned about is we shouldn't therefore, you know, come in and, and as a sort of knee jerk reaction, introduce something that would actually criminalise free speech or criminalise free speech or criminalise legitimate speech about islam as a religion , about islam as a religion, you've got to be free to criticise religions and ideologies. what is a good term is to say anti—muslim. and that is to say anti—muslim. and that is what some of these protests are very clearly anti—muslim. and that makes clear it's about the people rather than the ideology itself. you've got to be able to criticise the ideology whilst saying anti—muslim prejudice is wrong, and i'm very happy to say that. and let's say that, you know, but i really don't think we need

laws. what we do need is the laws. what we do need is the laws that we have existing fully enforced across the board. anybody who breaks the law wherever they do it, whenever they do it, however they do it, whoever they are, that does it should always face the full consequences of the law and that i totally hope we will see, as a consequence of these various riots and criminality that we've seen on the screens. >> and, tim, that that definition of islamophobia that you mentioned that also uses as examples , criticisms of the examples, criticisms of the islamic religion as being instrumental to attack muslims. so when you see keir starmer, who is being pressured to adopt this as a legal definition to make islamophobia illegal, when you see him talking about cracking down on things that people say online, do you think that this could have a serious, you know, more than a chilling impact on free speech, not just with respect to criticism of islam , but also for those who islam, but also for those who might be critical of islamism. >> yes , absolutely. and i really

>> yes, absolutely. and i really hope this does not happen . i hope this does not happen. i certainly don't want to support, incitement to violence and threats and incitement to violence should be and are already a criminal offence and should be properly dealt with. and i agree with that. but then it's where do they broaden it out to that. and that's what i'm concerned about broadening it out to criticism of islam as islam. islam as a religion. you're quite right. the report that the that goes with the definition actually included examples of even historical things like saying islam spread by the sword or even saying things about muhammad in some cases would be considered islamophobic. and that's wrong . islamophobic. and that's wrong. you know, i think it's anti—muslim that we need to use not islamophobia in general as a term. and i'm very concerned about how this could work out in terms of a threat to free speech. with a majority parliament of labour mps who've all agreed to abide by that code of conduct that adopts this definition, how will they stand up and say, we don't agree with this definition? you know, i think it's a very concerning thing. we could easily see an islamic blasphemy law in this

country, and we just need more and more people to realise the threat that this is, and to write their mps and tell them this is really must not happen across this country. as a result of these awful riots and violence that we've seen. >> okay. well, thank you very much, tim dup, you're from christian concern. really great to get your analysis on this one, it's tricky, isn't it, emma? because of course there will be calls for this because you want to be against stigmatising a group of people based on their faith. but there's much more to this, isn't there? well, i think, i mean, i think, as tim said there, you just enforce the law as it stands. >> there is no need to have an islamophobia definition. it could be more trouble than it's worth because it could effectively, as he put it quite rightly, i think bring in what is effectively a blasphemy law, and that, of course, could capture people, even minorities within the muslim community like ahmadiyya muslims who face a lot of discrimination within the muslim community. so this is something that i think would, would do a lot more harm than

good. and as tim said, you know, we already have laws that deal with discrimination or violence against particular groups. >> so it's interesting, isn't it, what we've seen from politicians, some politicians jumping on speech as the issue. it's actually what they did straight after david amess, if you remember, when david amess was was murdered by an islamist, immediately parliament turned their attention to talking about onune their attention to talking about online safety and things said onune online safety and things said online as if he'd been murdered by a rogue computer. >> rather than by a knifeman, so i think the reason i suspect the reason why the conversation often takes this turn is because it's easier. it's easier to deal with those maybe things, rather than the more complicated issues that we are sticking our head in the sands and ignoring. >> yeah, i think it's i think it's you can say that obviously things get whipped up online. i think that is indisputable. at this point. if you just log on to facebook or log on to twitter, you know, these algorithms can pump out, you know , misinformation. they can

know, misinformation. they can pump out, anger, resentment, etc, etc, etc. that can add fuel to the fire. but is that simplistic? is it more about years of growing tensions, years of growing disputes, and so on and so forth? does clamping down on speech and social media actually have the intended? >> well, you know, my opinion, intended consequences, clamping down on speech is always going to lead to negative unintended consequences. but there we are. >> well there you go. let us know. do you think we need to tackle social media. you know, is that, you know, we need to go to the elon musks of this world and say, hang on, you can't have all this stuff on your platform. crack down, crack down. anyway, coming up , the latest as met coming up, the latest as met chief sir mark rowley grabs a journalist's microphone when he was asked a question about two tier policing. we're going to be speaking to our political editor straight out after this. stay

us. >> good afternoon britain. it's 10 to 3 now. there was obviously a very tense cobra meeting as met police commissioner sir mark rowley grabbed a journalist's microphone when asked a question about two tier policing. >> yes, he seemed to storm out of there, this comes as downing street shuts down claims that keir starmer is going on holiday this week. instead of facing mass unrest across the country. >> now we're joined by gb. news, political editor chris hope. chris, what on earth was going on there ? on there? >> hi, i'm. >> hi, i'm. >> hi, i'm. >> hi, emily. well yeah, you might wonder. i'm sure we can share the footage now. this mark rowley leaving, 70 whitehall where there had been a meeting in the cabinet office briefing room about the riots. now number 10 won't admit or tell us that mark rowley, the met police chief, was in the meeting. but the question he was asked there by a pool reporter was, is there

any two tier policing in this country of, of the, of obviously about the riots and his response was to walk off and pull down the microphone, which may look like that was his answer. you can see it again on the screen now . now the hope, the home, the now. now the hope, the home, the met police , they say to us to met police, they say to us to just now that he was in a hurry to return to new scotland yard to return to new scotland yard to take action on the agreed steps. and he says he's got a constructive meeting with the pm and partners across government and partners across government and policy makers. so he's clearly trying to get on with the job. but if you're asked about two tier policing and the head of the police in this country does that, it does say something, i think, and that's the problem. he's got. >> yes, i think you put it well that that it appears that that was his answer to the question, but chris, there's been quite a lot of speculation about whether keir starmer's government may crack down in a major way on social media after there's been

disinformation and incitement to violence online. do we think that's a could could come to pass and also pressure to recall parliament? could that happen ? parliament? could that happen? >> yes. well, there's two things there, emily. on the social media side, the first thing, they will go after people who incite violence online. they've made clear whether they also go after the publishers of that. and that's a legally contestable area like twitter. now, x of course, and other social media platforms, are they in trouble for, for their users circulating? wrong information that may incite other , violence that may incite other, violence or riots on the issue of the parliament being recalled as things stand that will not happen back in 2011, it came back for one day to allow mps from all sides of the house to talk about the issue, but it is quite an expensive thing to do. it does cost tens of thousands of pounds to get parliament going again during a recess. there will be loads to do that

and the government's position is they've got all the powers they need. having parliament back won't do anything. it won't mean any new laws. it will merely be any new laws. it will merely be a talking shop, which frankly, is already happening already on places like gb news. >> well, it's certainly true that the honeymoon is well and truly over for the new labour government. thank you very much. christopher hope, gb news political editor. thank you very much indeed, and it's been lovely presenting with you this afternoon. so thank you . afternoon. so thank you. >> thank you for having me. it's been wonderful. >> always nice to women. why not? >> can't believe my luck. >> can't believe my luck. >> khalife your luck. yes well, please do continue with getting in touch. of course it is. now. martin daubney up next. on no, it's dawn neesom who's filling in for martin daubney. you won't want to miss that. stay tuned . want to miss that. stay tuned. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello again. i'm here from the met office with your gb news. weather forecast there will be some sunny spells. also

a few showers around as we go into tomorrow, but most of us will see a spell of more persistent rain for a time due to a front that is gradually making its way south eastwards across the uk. that has already brought some rain to parts of scotland and northern ireland, and will continue to bring some heavy rain, particularly to the borders dumfries galloway area as we go through this evening could cause some impacts here. also, some heavy rain across parts of northwest england and into wales as well. that front then pushing south eastwards so reaching the midlands and south west england as we go overnight ahead of the front in the south—east still quite warm despite some clear skies. something a little bit fresher behind the front towards the northwest. now as we go through tomorrow morning, do be aware there could be some heavy bursts of rain along this front, particularly around east midlands. could be some thunder in association with this as well. also a bit of a wet start across central southern england, but ahead of the front and behind it, something a bit brighter. so across parts of wales, northern england , wales, northern england, scotland and northern ireland it is generally going to be a fine

start to the day tomorrow. that being said, there will be a few showers around, particularly out towards the hebrides, and some of these could be a little bit on the heavy side. those showers are going to become more widespread as we go through tomorrow, so across many parts of scotland and northern ireland we are going to see a few showers developing as we go through the day. meanwhile, that front continues its progress eastwards across east anglia and parts of kent , eastwards across east anglia and parts of kent, but it's going to be mostly light by the time it reaches these eastern parts. again, temperatures are similar to today really, so mid 20s towards the south—east, feeling warm in any sunshine. a bit fresher than this towards the northwest . more showers as we go northwest. more showers as we go through tomorrow evening across scotland and northern ireland in particular. a few showers perhaps for parts of western england and wales. otherwise a largely dry night to come. a cooler, showery theme for many on wednesday. the heavier showers towards the northwest, then some rain pushing through at times later this week . at times later this week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb

>> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 3:00 on monday afternoon and i'm joel neesom standing for in the lovely martin daubney who's having a well—earned holiday. >> so another tall blonde person, just slightly different sex. now, after days of violent disorder that have shamed the uk, sir keir starmer has announced a standing army of specialist police officers will be set up to deal with rioting and unrest, and the prime minister held an emergency cobra meeting today. but he's facing growing calls to recall parliament and as the clean up operations continue, those responsible have started to face justice with one judge describing the scenes as absolutely disgraceful. we'll have the full story between now and 4:00.