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high alert. sir keir starmer, thanks the police and wider criminal justice system at his third cobra meeting since violent. tonight that. sorry, i do apologise. he also said that there was no doubt that levels of policing in the right places and swift justice over the past week, including sentences, have acted as a deterrent to the disorder . who we really are. disorder. who we really are. former presidents trump has agreed to debate vice president harris on television in a race to the white house. it's been confirmed the republican nominee will debate democratic rival kamala harris on the 10th of september on abc. but trump told a news conference at his florida home this evening he wants to add two more debates on fox and nbc. the us presidential hopeful also warned of dark times ahead. >> a lot of bad things coming up, you could end up in a depression of the 1929 variety, which would be a devastating thing. took many years, took decades to recover from it , and decades to recover from it, and we're very close to that, and we're very close to that, and
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we're very close to that, and we're very close to a world war, in my opinion. we're very close to a world war. we have people that don't know how to handle it. they're not respected all over the world. they're laughed at the final child injured in southport stabbings has been discharged from hospital and will continue her recovery at home, according to merseyside police, three young girls died after a mass stabbing at a taylor swift themed dance class in the seaside town last week. >> the family of the injured victim discharged today, expressed gratitude to the royal manchester children's hospital for its support and care during what they called this challenging time . police forces challenging time. police forces across the country have issued further cctv appeals to identify people in connection with the widespread disorder over the past week, detectives investigating disorder in merseyside issued images of 11 people earlier today after a separate appeal helped identify individuals. yesterday, greater manchester police has issued a very similar appeal for information. they're asking the pubuc information. they're asking the public to contact them directly or crime stoppers anonymously if
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they recognise any of the people pictured . former glamour model pictured. former glamour model katie price has been arrested at heathrow airport tonight for failing to attend court, and has been remanded in custody to appear before a judge tomorrow. the metropolitan police has told gb news. a 46 year old woman from surrey was arrested at heathrow airport at 7:45 this evening. an arrest warrant was issued for price last month after she failed to attend a court hearing related to her bankruptcies . and finally, great bankruptcies. and finally, great britain's ellie aldridge has become the first ever olympic gold medallist in kite surfing at today's events in marseille. the discipline, which sees competitors fly above the water at up to 40 knots, powered by huge kites, is making its games debut this week . 27 year old debut this week. 27 year old aldridge, from dorset, powered her way to gold by winning both races in the final series. today with those are your latest gb news headlines. for now i'm cameron walker. now it's time for headliners for the very
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latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> and welcome to headliners. >> and welcome to headliners. >> it's your first look at friday's top news stories with me , andrew doyle and two rather me, andrew doyle and two rather wonderful comedians cressida, far right wetton and josh. i'm always right. >> howie, how are you both.7 >> howie, how are you both.7 >> fun time at the riots .7 >> fun time at the riots? >> fun time at the riots? >> yeah, just he actually has been to the ones in liverpool haven't you. >> well i got, i got locked into a board game shop with my son. did you really. yeah we were like. they were like, we're closing. >> we're closing the shop because they were afraid the riots were just coming down the road. and then. so we had to have an extra lie—in bar. is that right? that's. that's my riot story. what a pretty crazy. >> well, i once got trapped in a pizza express at a pride parade, which turned nasty because members of the far right turned
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up and it all kicked off. >> but that was back in the day when pride was interesting. >> back in the yeah, look at us with our crazy riot stories. >> i didn't know you too at all. >> i didn't know you too at all. >> no, you've no idea. >> no, you've no idea. >> it's a big there's a lot you don't know about me. cressida wetton. we will discuss later. anyway, we're gonna have a look at those front pages. the telegraph is running with khan. i'm no longer safe as a muslim. the daily mail has riot thugs jailed and shamed on tv as courts get tough, the eye has reeves to order ministers to make major savings amid defence cuts, and the daily express is running with labour. man held over call to cut rioters throats. the guardian has laws to stop. fake news are not fit for purpose, says london mayor and the daily star has some bizarre story about a hairy wolf man. those were your front pages . man. those were your front pages. okay, so we're going to kick off with the front cover of friday's daily mail. christa wetton has the details . the details. >> riot thugs jailed and shamed on tv as courts get tough. so
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we've now got a total of 32 years handed to 17 people who've been involved in the riots. right? >> i'm not good at maths, but that's quite a lot. >> it is. it's well, it's that's quite a lot. >> it is. it's well , it's over that's quite a lot. >> it is. it's well, it's over a year each. yes. i mean, obviously they won't serve all of it because i'm sure you've heard the prisons are full. they are full. but anyway, not any more. >> they've kicked them all out. get these rioters in. there's going to be a temporary change of prisoners. >> something like that. right. so the big deal is that some of these, these courts that was televised and we don't do that , televised and we don't do that, that's very, very rare. you might do it for a murder. so keir's really getting into sort of. wow. i'm going to say orwellian a lot tonight. >> judge judy territory right there. right? >> right. yeah, exactly. so it's now entertainment as well. well, well , but you know, if you now entertainment as well. well, well, but you know, if you break the law, smash stuff up, expect to go to prison. >> that's the way i see it. well, yes. >> yeah, but we have a sort of game of thrones thing. they've implemented now where people have to walk through the streets with bell. shame shame. this is the new thing. and then they're going to have like, excrement thrown at them. >> that's such a bad idea. >> that's such a bad idea. >> yeah. and also it would save
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on the prison time if you can just make it back to your house. yes. i mean, we're just we're just floating ideas. we're just. we're spitballing. >> i don't think we have a concept of shame in this country anymore. that's part of the problem. >> yeah, that'll probably go on, big brother. yeah, that'd be a great idea. >> we could have a shame festival instead of a pride or both. >> yeah. so it's interesting to find out the lives of some of these. some of these far right rioters. yes. of course, some of them were far right rioters. two of them. the first ones i saw about, though, were two gay gentlemen. they were out playing bingo during the day. and then it seems like they kind of got caught up in the altercation and got a bit excited. >> are you making this up, john? no no. >> there's two. yeah. on the way. gay bingo. bingo. >> yeah. they got caught up in it and they've now got prison sentences. >> so i think there was definitely a far right contingent there. but i think a lot of the people there weren't far right in fact, i point out that a lot of them were probably far left. >> and lots of bingo players and lots of bingo players as well. dangerously marxist danger of daytime bingo. yeah, that's probably part of it. and there was, some brothers who looted a burnt out library. and i got to say, if that. that's probably the worst place to loot. yeah.
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is a burnt out library. i don't know what what you're getting. >> yeah, but as with all of these things, whenever these things put out books. well that's it, it kicks off and they end up like, you know what starts with a black lives matter protest ends up with people stealing, you know, shoes. yeah, but i can i can understand shoes, i can understand. >> but a burnt out library that just makes it's like, what is it like alexandra kwasi and they're hoping these manuscripts will be worth a lot in a couple of thousand years time. it doesn't make sense to me. of all the things to lose, there would be any manuscripts left. >> it's a library. it's full of papeh >> there might be some half. >> there might be some half. >> okay. >> okay. >> you know, you're happy enough with, with people going to prison for destroying public property. >> surely i am happy enough for criminals to go to prison. andrew yes, but what doesn't seem to get mentioned? well, come back to this a lot tonight is the legitimate concerns of some people who weren't the 17 that have gone to prison. >> yeah. so there's a, there's a thing here, isn't there. there's there's, there's people who behave illegitimately and criminally and they should face the full brunt of the law, the full force of the law. and, you know, as the phrase goes, but then you've also got people who
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have do have legitimate concerns. that and the risk is that those legitimate concerns will get overlooked because they'll be conflated with the people who break the law. right? absolutely. that's the worry here. >> and those legitimate concerns are not going anywhere. >> no, of course they're not. and there's a variety of things that are getting blamed from drugs to the russians and all these bingo . these bingo. >> no, bingo. what's not being discussed? gay men is the legitimate concerns. not that they justify violence. no. >> you're obsessed with this. bingo idea. >> i don't know, i've just. yeah. >> is there an element of islamophobia? because it's mecca. mecca? bingo. ooh. >> hello. someone's got some jokes this evening. >> well, no, i'm actually just pondenng >> well, no, i'm actually just pondering . anyway, let's move on pondering. anyway, let's move on to the front cover of the express. josh, what's going on there? >> labour man held over call to cut rioters throats. now he's been arrested. he's since been charged. so that limits what we can talk about. but there's a few interesting things. i think we can talk about this. the first thing is this is a clip that went out on social media, this morning. this was from, i believe, walthamstow last night. and it turned out the man was a
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labour councillor. he was suspended. he's been since been suspended. he's been since been suspended by labour. yes. the question is one is if this hadnt question is one is if this hadn't been for social media, i don't think this arrest would have happened. >> no, we wouldn't know about it. >> we wouldn't know about it. and the other thing that i think is interesting is, is this evidence of not two tier policing. yes. is it that the police felt like they had to step in to prove that they weren't hypocrites? >> well, it was a pretty extreme example and in the clip, he's standing with all these people who look a little bit surprised, but still go on to cheer when he says, i mean, what troubles me about that sort of stuff more than anything is the cheering is when people sort of clap along. >> there was a woman there for amnesty. >> it was almost colic, wasn't it? the pr for amnesty. i mean, i know they've gone they've somewhat strayed from the values they might have had decades ago, but amnesty definitely . but amnesty definitely. >> so even if you're only a little bit about amnesty, you know, they're against the death penalty and they're against violence, or at least they should be. i mean, it might be the case that maybe who knows, we shouldn't comment on it. >> but then he's he's leading a chant for free, free palestine.
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and that seemed to have excited everybody. yeah. the conflation tool. of course i can't really figure out what, but free palestine has to do with riots in the uk. >> there is a broader point here though, as you say, this wouldn't have come about if it weren't for the footage being shared on x. a lot of commentators talking about how we need twitter to be taken down, musk needs to go and we need more online censorship. but, you know, to be fair to musk, you know, his community notes have been fantastic. i mean, they picked up the guardian, put out an article which was completely full of misinformation. the community notes yesterday completely nailed it. you know who's going to deal with the misinformation if it's not for people on social media pointing out where the media pointing out where the media get it wrong? >> absolutely. that's why i think we need elon. and good luck to starmer trying to have an argument online with elon musk. >> i think i know he really shouldn't, but i will say is 100% is. >> this clip would not have gone out on bbc or sky or anywhere else unless it been called attention to no. >> okay, well let's move on now. we've got this one. this is the telegraph. you got this one, chris. >> yeah . khan chris. >> yeah. khan i'm no longer chris. >> yeah . khan i'm no longer safe >> yeah. khan i'm no longer safe as a muslim. so sadiq khan is feeling bad for himself and for his family, mayor of london, triggered by violence as police
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warn more disorder at weekend, so it's another call for safety, which is . i mean, what's he which is. i mean, what's he actually calling for? well, what's he actually calling? >> i mean, he's saying that he's not feeling safe because there have been there was there was some attacks on a mosque, there have been people saying openly unpleasant things about muslims. yes, of course, the jewish community has had this kind of thing for quite some time, and people haven't really done . people haven't really done. absolutely. but my point would be no one should have to deal with that. but on the other hand, i worry that all of this stuff becomes a preset, a pretence for censorship. >> really? yeah. and it's difficult to argue that. i mean, i saw nigel farage talking, in the last 24 hours about his need for more security under the circumstances. so it's not like it's just one side. you know, this is why a high trust, low crime society is brilliant because we're all safer, you know? i mean, there's all sorts of reasons why people might feel unsafe about the way that things are reported, the way that things. >> you know, i mean, you could
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say that gay people felt quite unsafe when those gay men were stabbed to death and no one would say who the perpetrators were, you know, for fear of causing unrest in certain communities. well, you know, we can all play this game. >> you can also say that certain that in certain areas, like, for example, in birmingham, where a group of, muslim men met with machetes, that, the white people or non—muslims might have felt unsafe. one of them, a white man, was beaten up in his liver, lacerated outside of a pub. yes. so that community could feel unsafe. yes, >> and then you had that awful video of the police officers sort of saying. yeah, well, we met with community leaders and we decided not to arrest people with machetes. yeah, he didn't quite say that, but you know what i mean? it's like it's like this. it's all a big mess, isn't it? just i go back to this point, apply the law equally to everyone, whoever they are. and problem is solved. i would have thought, right? >> yeah, but maybe also get a time machine and do it way back. >> yeah. do it before rotherham. >> yeah. do it before rotherham. >> yeah, maybe decades ago. i don't know, maybe like two years ago when a group of men drove down to london, from luton and
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screamed, that they were going to rape jewish daughters. >> yeah. and then no, no, they were not charged. and they had all the evidence and whatever. and the jewish community are still trying to find out the reason for the cps making that decision. i think it was disgusting. >> unbelievable. okay. well, we're going to move on now . we're going to move on now. >> that triggered me, by the way, mr khan. not that he had anything to do with it. i'm just saying. >> well, if he's triggered, been triggered, everyone's been triggered. exactly lots of triggering going on. okay, well, let's move on to the cover of the daily star. and josh, i'm not even going to begin to pretend that i understand what's going on here. >> okay, well, that's because you have no body hair. shame of the hairy wolf men, i don't know if that's. i mean, who are they talking about? they're talking about men like me. >> oh, we've got a particular. >> oh, we've got a particular. >> no, like a certain particular about a lazy man like myself who has lots of body hair and her suit man. her suit man. but also not ready for the beach. so i'm going on holiday in a week and a half. am i going to take my t half. am i going to take myt shirt off the beach? i'm a little bit overweight at the moment. i haven't timed my diet very well, so this is just body
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shaming. it's body shaming for every body. disgusting men like myself. >> the thing is, there's nothing unhealthy about being hairy is that we always talk about body shaming and we say, no, no, obesity is dangerous. but as far as i know, being hairy, not dangerous. >> it's very bad for candle wax. >> it's very bad for candle wax. >> it's very bad for candle wax. >> i really don't want to know how you know that. >> i just heard unbelievable. >> i just heard unbelievable. >> okay , well, that is a >> okay, well, that is a horrible image. i apologise, i apologise one on, but we're going to end it nevertheless. but coming up in part two, we've got america on the and some good old fashioned anti—semitism. well,
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welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at friday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle. i'm still joined by adult human female cressida whetton and women's olympic boxing hopeful josh howie. will you go the distance, josh? thank you. i think you will. anyway, we're going to kick off with friday's telegraph. a woman has been arrested for spreading false information. have you been
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trying to sell your magic crystals again? cressida. >> brilliant woman arrested for spreading false information about southport attacker. there's no crystals in this story . so 55 year old woman has story. so 55 year old woman has been arrested after allegedly spreading false information. so when the stockport stabbings happened. yes. fairly quickly, some false information appeared on the internet quite a lot. yes. >> and was spread by a lot of people. >> exactly. it went viral. can you say that about a piece of misinformation? i suppose you can. so it was claimed that he was a muslim illegal asylum seeker. yes. >> on the m16 watch list. >> on the m16 watch list. >> and none of this was true. and, you know, i'd even seen this sort of stuff just casually, not even looking for it, just there. so it must have been a lot of people. this person's been been charged, so we can't say anything about this particular case. but it does raise the point, doesn't it? if we start arresting people for misinformation online, where does that end? because there's going to be there's going to be thousands of people who spread this, the guardian has spread false information before the bbc, didn't the bbc do something about a hospital in israel that was completely false? although you could say, well, that wasn't
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deliberate. i would say that the guardian article about the wii spa example was a deliberate was deliberate misinformation. they must have known that that was not true. so who do we not arrest? do we do journalists get arrest? do we do journalists get a free pass to lie? >> it's a very it's a great question, isn't it? >> who's the person watching the watcher and all of that? >> well, it's a slippery slope. it's intent, there's this idea of incitement to hatred. so in what context are put out? of course, because there are some people who probably retweeted it saying this isn't true, but their content is still safe. so but, but so the that is. but then you have someone like, hope not hate where they tweeted about a acid attack against a muslim woman, which was that was false. now, you could argue that that would incite hatred. >> but he said he didn't know it was false. >> yeah. no, no. exactly. so but whether this person knows it is false either surely. >> but but but also, you know, but there's a danger here because even if you do know something is false, you're going to be arresting an awful lot of people. i mean, the great thing about elon musk's community
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notes is precisely this when someone puts something out false, it gets checked. it gets fact checked then. and i don't mean bbc verify fact check, i mean bbc verify fact check, i mean proper fact check. >> yeah, right. exactly the more of this stuff we cover, the more i think you're right. and it's all about free speech. have absolutely free speech and let everybody bring their version of it does come out. >> this is the thing. and the people who are caught lying are shamed. and you know , and shamed. and you know, and rightly so. and, you know, i think it's despicable if anyone would put out completely false information about such a serious crime like this, those people are scum. as far as i can see. but once you start arresting them, i worry about the precedent that sets in terms of free speech, i really do. no, ho. 110. >> no. >> sure. but then the argument, of course, goes that this information, this deliberate misinformation could be something that had led to violence. >> no. but again, the people responsible for violence are the people committing violence. you know , it's a very like in know, it's a very like in america, they've got the brandenburg test, which is about incitement to violence, where they say that in order to meet that threshold , it has to be that threshold, it has to be direct, imminent threat , insofar direct, imminent threat, insofar as a demagogue in front of a crowd pointing at someone ,
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crowd pointing at someone, saying, everyone now kill him, that would be basically the threshold. someone sort of tweeting out, oh, i wish they'd go out and kill someone. that's not, that's not, that doesn't count as and there wasn't as far as i know, there wasn't any, they weren't imploring them to do anything. >> they were saying. this is what i think they were. this is who i think did this right. >> okay. but i think there's a broader principle here, which is that we just have to defend fryston. yeah. i mean, it means the right to be wrong. >> yeah. my brain sort of. when you mention brandenburg cake. like, then i started thinking about battenberg . battenberg? yeah. >> i didn't know battenberg involved in this. >> i didn't take in anything you said after that point. if you could both repeat everything, that would be great. >> i mean, it is a delicious cake.i >> i mean, it is a delicious cake. i will give you that. >> so delicious. >> so delicious. >> it's one of the best. i mean, it's ridiculous. >> i have to go to bingo and then go to some riots and then go and eat some battenberg. >> yum, yum. well, that's josh's weekend sorted out. we're going to move on now to the guardian on friday we see the manchester airport incident. another twist. what's going on, cressida? >> so, second police officer under investigation after manchester airport incident, so
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yes , it's a second. this is the yes, it's a second. this is the incident that happened on the 23rd of july. initially we just had a very short clip of a police officer stamping on and kicking in the face. somebody on the floor. yes. >> which is abhorrent as far as i can see. absolutely. there was also context we didn't know about. >> well, there was so within the next few days, we got some more footage about what had happened just before that. and the police officers had been attacked. it was pretty brutal. we know that one of the female officers had a broken nose. i think that's right. have they been arrested yet? the people who well, they have. so there's two things going on at once here. so greater manchester police are also investigating the people that hurt the police in the first place. right, i mean, they should clearly be i don't know if they have been arrested. >> have they? they still they're out and about. the two, the two brothers also, there was a press conference, the other day with a lawyer. so i don't know if they actually parallel. >> greater manchester police is investigating investigating, but that's not the same as being arrested. >> i mean, it's it strikes me as absolutely astonishing. and also given the current anxieties
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about two tier policing, you would think they would be pretty clear about nailing these people who committed such horrible acts of violence in an airport. you would think it would just happen automatically. yeah, it would happen anyway. >> so there was another video footage of two bystanders filming. yes. and then being kind of maced and they were like, no, no, no. and then but but look, police are rocking up on the scene. they're seeing their colleagues on the floor, broken noses, people taking whatever they're seeing people. they're they're making a split decision. now, whether that was the wrong decision, i guess that's what's now being investigated. right. but it's a tough job being a police person, and, because, you know, i'll criticise them whichever way , criticise them whichever way, >> you're making an important point. that is a really difficult thing to judge, isn't it? as as a civilian who's never patronising josh, i mean, the closest i've come to violence is working with lewis schaffer. i've got no idea what that feels like. >> wow. that's not even coming close, tobias. that's outright violent. i saw you throw that kettle at his head in the kitchen. >> he deserved it, >> he deserved it, >> anyway, yeah, very difficult job for the police. >> oh, well, let's move on. now, this is this story about the.
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what's this in the daily mail? the labour council. you got this one, josh? >> oh, yes. no jewish worshippers beaten. alleged arson, attack on a property and religious ornaments vandalised. report reveals record levels of hatred towards british jews as hamas attacks drive up anti—semitism. so yeah, this is the community service trust, which is a charity jewish charity. they recorded nearly 2000 anti—jewish hate incidents in the last six months. yes that's not very good. >> oh, it's not very good, is it? and some would say it hasn't really been, taken seriously. no. well, including. >> yeah, including assault. there was a pregnant woman who was had a bag put over her head. there was a young boy who was nearly kidnapped, who was attempted attempted kidnapping . attempted attempted kidnapping. there's a bloke in a supermarket running around with a knife in a kosher supermarket. so these are real. well, i find physical impacts. >> we talk a lot about minorities. and if there's only. is it? it's less than 300,000 jews in the uk. 30,000? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> there's not a lot of them. so they really, really are a minority. >> but half of them are my
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family. >> yeah, exactly. but the thing is it is disturbing. i mean, this sort of stuff is, you know, it has echoes of fascism. you know, why are people not more worried about this ? well, maybe worried about this? well, maybe they are. i mean, i've missed it. >> you know, i'm surrounded by people who are. but i mean, the home yvette cooper is making noises towards this, but it just doesn't fit all the examples you've just talked about, it doesn't feel the same, does it? it doesn't feel like it gets the same coverage. >> no, it really doesn't. >> no, it really doesn't. >> and when you have the, you know, the, mayor, can he put out a tweet yesterday saying, call youn a tweet yesterday saying, call your, your your coloured, people, friends of colour and call your muslim friends and see how they all are. and you're like, well, mate, we've had ten months of feeling like, you know, scared and intimidated in our own city. >> is it to do with the fact that most of the media is pretty much ideologically captured by this, what we would call the woke ideology? and within the intersectional hierarchy of the woke, they believe that jews are not oppressed. they put them in
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the oppressing class. right. and that this has actually filtered down to such an extent that really this might explain why we're not getting the necessary coverage for these kind of things. is that part of it? yeah, absolutely. >> it doesn't fit the narrative that this hierarchy and the reality is that, the amount of hate that we receive per capita or whatever you want to call it is just it's off the scale and the fact it's increased and the fact that so much of it is in a sort of seemingly by like people who would call themselves even anti —racist. >> but anti—racist. >> but i don't understand why people aren't more disturbed by this. i mean, the day after the october the 7th pogrom, you have people out cheering like cheer, celebrating a pogrom . you know, celebrating a pogrom. you know, that is, by the way, would have been a great time to arrest people and maybe televise it and make a big thing of it so that we all know it's not on. so, i mean, that is just horrific. yeah, i agree. and anyway, anyway, talk about this for a long time. but we won't. we're going to move on to this, this final story in this section. this is trump who has been left questioning his performance. well, all blokes do that, don't they ? they? >>i they? >> i didn't think trump did.
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trump upset by kamala harris? kamala, i still can't say it. surge in us election polls so suddenly she's getting some attention. she's doing really well. they've got £310 million of donated dollars in july, which is more than trump's getting. so they're trying to make out here that he's really unnerved. he's a bit shaken. he's looking at his team. i don't think he is. i think what's happened is she's just the new girl on the block. and so she's getting a lot of coverage. yes, probably a lot of time on the television and so on and so on. and i think it's temporary. and there's this guy, jeff lord, which is such it sounds like a swear word, doesn't it? jeff lord, i love it, he says, don't panic. you know, i just think it's like a neighbour's swear word that used to having soaps that you could use. it's not real. okay? are you a cake taker? it's one of those. anyway, he says this happens all the time. and he, he worked in the reagan white house, and he says, calm down. it's just that she's new, you know ? know? >> well, i mean, look, she's got the weight of the media machine behind her trying to amplify her as the next mlk, which is hilarious because she's such a mediocre politician. yeah. what
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do you make of this, josh? >> yeah, i mean, i think it's also amplified because, well, the juxtaposition is because it was it seemed like it was such a foregone conclusion after the trump, the assassination attempt against him. he just seemed to be riding so high that it just seemed like that was that. yeah. so the fact that she has come back, the fact that in this poll, she's got a six point lead, that's a big deal. trump is obsessed. always obsessed about, the numbers of his yeah crowd. and he's saying, you know he's and he's right that he's saying look a thousand people are you know, she gets a thousand people and the media is like, oh, look at the huge things. but i get 100,000. they don't care. but the thing donald trump, as i say, it's not about crowd size. it's about how you use it. >> there we go. well that's it for part two. but do join us after the break for social media . and the government's fetish party is over , fetish party is over, apparently.
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your first look at friday's newspapers. we're going to jump straight back in with friday's times. now. good news for fans of censorship. >> indeed, especially north of the border , social media giants the border, social media giants must kerb lies that fuel disorder, says swinney. he is the first minister of scotland. scotland is a, a little town nonh scotland is a, a little town north of, york. >> it's up there, isn't it? >> it's up there, isn't it? >> it's up there, isn't it? >> it's up there somewhere. >> it's up there somewhere. >> yes, it's above hadrian's wall, i think. >> yes, hadrian's wall and, but they but they've had no riots so far. there was talk of a, riots in glasgow, but there has been no riots. so. >> yeah, but this is, this is great scotland, the snp, i mean, they're very, very authoritarian aren't they. >> well i get yeah. do you think that's the reason why rubbing their hands and licking their lips like we're going to get some soon. some 500“. >> some soon. >> we're going to have a reason we'll get in. >> so the article is not really about this social media element at all. it's more about how they've sort of gathered together community leaders and, and, and this is how they're basically i think they've just been lucky. yeah. so to avoid all this stuff , but the one all this stuff, but the one thing, one of the many things he
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talks about in this is how social media giants should, you know, have some culpability . know, have some culpability. >> how does he propose to do this? >> well, then, interestingly, he doesn't mention that andrew know the point. >> what it ultimately means is, please, can you censor everyone onune? please, can you censor everyone online? exactly. and then we don't find out about what's really going on. yeah you know, a lot of the gangs that we saw, people with machetes and the like, we wouldn't have seen any of that. no, we wouldn't have known that that was happening if it weren't for x. >> i mean, ijust think it weren't for x. >> i mean, i just think this is this is this has been going for on years, hasn't it? i mean, when we had the anti—lockdown stuff that was downplayed on, on the mainstream media and then people would post their clips and bits and pieces to x and. >> yeah, and we really have to sort of question this narrative that when you have statements being made on social media, it automatically leads to action. there's no evidence for that. like there really isn't. i mean, there have been six decades of study into media effects theory. we know that there is no correlation, but of course, the politicians want to be able to point the finger at the
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supposedly easy answer. >> yes, as opposed to some of the harder questions, which is what are they doing wrong ? yes. what are they doing wrong? yes. and what actions have they done wrong? in the past it was like when the politician was that politician was murdered two years ago or whatever. yeah, again, it was like it was all about social media. >> it was incredible. that was sir david amess when he was shot to death by an islamic fundamentalist. yeah what happened was instead of saying, how do we solve the problem of islamic fundamentalism and radicalism in the country, it became a discussion about how can we censor tweets , mean can we censor tweets, mean tweets. it had nothing to do with it. so what i'm saying is politicians do take seem to take every opportunity, particularly authoritarian politicians who seem to dominate the labour party. how do we take any opportunity to censor and control speech? and this will be another example. >> but to push back on your point about it not having any relationship, presumably what social media does enable is for people to have conversations. yes it does. yes. and to get the information out there . so it's information out there. so it's kind of a thin line, isn't it, between you can see why they would argue that it's dangerous,
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but really what it means is people have access to information. >> they have agency as well. you have to completely agree . people have to completely agree. people don't act in a hateful way unless that hateful, element is already part of their character, if they're already predisposed to it. in other words, they know this even about propaganda. propaganda only works when the people it targets are predisposed to act or think that way. already >> but what it could do is inspire somebody like me to take an interest in a political cause and vote at the ballot. you know, vote, vote the way they don't like. no one's denying . so don't like. no one's denying. so i think they're pointing at these few far right people who've genuinely been violent and belong in prison. fair enough. and sort of conflating the two. yes. so that i can't you know, see what's going on on x. >> well there's that okay. we're going to move on now to the telegraph. and this is cressida civil servants being kept on a tight leash. civil no longer literally civil servants cannot wear fetish gear to work. >> minister confirm outrageous oppression. it is oppression. this is staff at the dwp. they've apparently they've objected to the clothes of one of their colleagues. this is a
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trans woman called sasha amethea. tweedlee tweedlee tweedlee truedale. >> not their birth name. >> not their birth name. >> not. well, i'm willing to bet it's. it's a very fancy name, isn't it? and some very fancy clothes going on. sure likes an outfit. >> well, let's say fishnet tights. fetish i think there's a pentagram involved. well, it says here that at best, it's an evening wear. but i think that's being generous . it depends where being generous. it depends where you go for the evening. see, that's what women wear. >> that's what women. >> that's what women. >> that's what makes you a woman. revealing fishnets. that's just a womanly thing to do. >> just what? that's what real women. they love it. prerogative big high heels and yeah. absolutely. >> baroness, jenkin has asked two questions. she's asked about the policy on civil servants wearing fetish clothing in the workplace . yes, but she's also workplace. yes, but she's also asked whether bondage , asked whether bondage, domination, sadism and masochism known as bdsm is considered to be a protected characteristic under the equality act, and that
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question thus far has not been answered. >> i mean, why is it that you know, when it comes to these men who identify as women, they never dress as like a frumpy librarian? you know, that kind of thing with the sort of angora rollneck stuff like that . it's rollneck stuff like that. it's always like fishnets and sort of revealing tight leather pvcs. do you remember the teacher in canada who wore those massive prosthetic fake breasts? >> i've still got those pictures. >> yeah, yeah, a kind of astonishing. and, you know, and there was a big debate about should a teacher be able to wear big prosthetic breasts. i'm like, no, because you can't wear fetish. i used to be a teacher, right. they wouldn't let me wear fetish gear to school. i don't see why they should let him. but you know what? >> this is a serious question that she asked. and very clever question asking about whether bdsm is a protected characteristic, because the argument goes that making fetishes into a protected characteristic has been sort of part of the end game all along, because then the argument goes that , well, because then the argument goes that, well, you're a paedophile and that's a protected characteristic. and that seems to be the fear that that many people are fighting gender
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ideology and lots of people, you know, lots of the first people who started gender ideology have this connection to paedophilia. >> so that's where you think it's going. >> well, this is what and this is what she's trying to sort of hold out for, because, you know, if that and because the fact is the el—sisi suggesting that this person is, you know, no, no, no, but but she is asking a very. but the baroness is asking a very interesting question because the lgb part has nothing to do with the tsha plus. >> plus will never understand that very basic point. josh, i've been banging on about that for months. >> for years. but it is. but at the same time, look, it is good that it has been, you know, stated that this kind of outfit is not appropriate. and i just wish that hr had told me in the first week or so. >> i wish they had, because i had to look at it. >> yeah, well i'm sorry. >> yeah, well i'm sorry. >> anyway, we're going to move on now to the express. and josh, this is the biggest gender related controversy of the olympics. >> yeah, this is crazy. yeah bbc olympics commentator corrected after misgendering non—binary athlete in a mask. after misgendering non—binary athlete in a mask . so, he after misgendering non—binary athlete in a mask. so, he said
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live. he's talking about raven saunders, who is a shot putter. right and she's kind of famous. she. they know she's it's them. she. they know she's it's them. she she she she's a lady. she's a woman, is was wears this big mask thing. now she talks about it being a hulk like hulk. bruce banner form. >> do you have to wear them out? >> do you have to wear them out? >> no. but the whole point, she she puts on the whole costume, she.then she puts on the whole costume, she. then she becomes the hulk by wearing the costume. >> it sounds kind of fun. it's kind of interesting. >> i refuse to call they him or they them. they whatever. i don't believe a non—binary. i don't believe a non—binary. i don't care. >> are they in the women's category? >> yeah, surprisingly so. shock, horror, she's a bird. >> fair mistake. well, yeah . >> fair mistake. well, yeah. >> fair mistake. well, yeah. >> it's not fair enough. >> it's not fair enough. >> yes, she's a bird . well, i >> yes, she's a bird. well, i find more confusing is that she's an olympian and i think. haven't you got. i it was my own prejudice. i'm confessing here. i think people that are into discipline and compliance and rules become olympians. not people that say i'm not to prepared observe gender. >> but what's funny about this
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is also like the presenter correcting the other one like it's them, they them, they are the sorry, i'm fresh out of gold stars, but if i had any you'd get one. >> but you know what that means. that means the bbc probably has a list of athletes with their gender identity. yeah ready to go. so she could be like, oh, you obviously didn't look at the document that says raven is a they them. >> which is exactly why i wouldn't be on the bbc because i'd be correcting their grammar, saying, come on, i actually think about it is not a plural raven is she's she's a big woman. >> and thinking about it, she could beat me up so they them all the way. >> oh, there we go . fear >> oh, there we go. fear prevails. yes. anyway, we're moving on now to the daily mail for friday, and, they're discussing the new trend of under consumption . what's that under consumption. what's that gen z aussie mocked for under consumption core, which involves rewearing clothes using bags for life, not upgrading your phone and having a basic skincare
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regime. >> basic skincare. >> basic skincare. >> soap. >> soap. >> something like that. yeah. yes exactly, so this is an article apparently there's some influencers are saying, oh my god, guys, i've had this totes amaze idea. yeah, reuse your bags. it's called being poor. yeah. and so they're sort of fetishising being normal, i think, and not spending loads of money. i mean, it is quite radical because presumably a lot of influencers, their income must be linked to products that they push. these people aren't doing that. they're selling normalness. >> okay. yeah. but also what is being normal because they're coming from a generation which had the disposable clothing and whatnot. so for them, of course, for us it seems normal wearing a top twice. >> but for them, josh, this woman has invented an idea where she she creates meals based on what's already in the fridge. okay radical. it's crazy, but that's it. >> because they're you. because the generation before was just eating out. all. yeah, that's right. so this is them. this is the drift. >> apparently. good for them. i mean , it's saving money isn't
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welcome back to the final section of headliners it's your first look at friday's newspapers. we're going to jump straight back in with friday's daily star. could cocaine be fuelling the race riots? to be fair, i did hear someone chanting white powder quite aggressively. what's this ? aggressively. what's this? >> dynamite. >> dynamite. >> cocaine could be fuelling the race riots sweeping across the uk. expert says. i mean, it could . i've worked in a lot of could. i've worked in a lot of pubs with working class men. this is humblebrag, part of it is isn't cocaine more an upper middle class media know? it used to be. but you know, it's like i mean, some of these people have
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got to get in a van at 5 am, you know, i'm not saying they will do that, but my experience of riots, which is not very much, people don't really need substances to , to get into. substances to, to get into. great point, andrew. very good point. but this is arguing that the claim is that cocaine wants the claim is that cocaine wants the society drug. your point of choice now holds some cachet in the burgeoning far right movement . well, that's. movement. well, that's. >> yeah. sorry. >> yeah. sorry. >> well, they are they i'm on coke. >> sorry, sorry. >> sorry, sorry. >> i'm very much for all of this stuff. like talking about social media impact. now, you know , gas media impact. now, you know, gas or whatever they want to call it. it's everything. all of this stuff is always trying not to blame people for their own actions. if you commit violence, yes, you should be blamed. don't blame it on drugs. >> don't blame it on twitter, but you blame for taking drugs. but here's the thing. number one, let's look at the evidence that coke is a far right drug. number one, it's white. yes. okay. number two, hitler did it. i've recently read a couple of big books about hitler. he was big books about hitler. he was big into amphetamine, and then this article. really? this expert? i don't really want to go into his name because i don't
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want to be sued. but let's just say he knows suspiciously a lot about the effects of cocaine. >> i don't think he does. i think he sounds like somebody gave him a can of cider at university, and then he panicked and hasn't touched anything since. >> i don't know, i think he's also saying that if you smoke weed, that that's like a left wing thing. so lefties smoke weed and i, i can't keep up. >> i think just don't do drugs. >> i think just don't do drugs. >> dogs are bad. >> dogs are bad. >> we're going to move on to the independent now, labour mp this is some offence archaeology going right now. >> this is well this is i love this story okay. new labour mp lauren edwards accused of racism over saying effing estonians tweet this is brilliant because i love this for a few reasons. number one, it shows that labour has come a long way because a few years ago, when labour mps would when you'd uncover their tweets, it would be like, you know, jews around the world and, and are responsible for all bad things and this and that and crazy anti—semitism. if this is the best that can be, that they can come up with now. >> so saving estonia doesn't sound good. josh. >> no, it doesn't. but then. but the reaction has been insane to
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be accused of racism. estonians are not an ethnicity to my mind. to my knowledge, their nationality. i love estonia, i say it's xenophobic, but even then it could be just like, oh, there's a state, there's estonians. but the idea this mp has to apologise to all of estonia . estonia. >> not only that, there's another word that begins with r. that's also not, well, that's not so great, but. and she's been asked to get in touch with disability groups and estonia and to educate herself on the benefits of a diverse society. >> this is complete offence archaeology, which is what they you know. yeah. should there be i think toby young made the suggestion there should be a statute of limitations. so you can't actually have a go at someone for a tweet that's like over ten years. >> i disagree with you. i think, archaeology, whatever you're calling it, is a good thing. what the point of this article is that they've done some archaeology and they found like archaeology and they found like a £0.02 coin from three years ago. yeah. >> but josh, you know, we've had things like who was that cricketer with andrew who got in trouble for something he tweeted as a teenager like, yeah. >> but the point was that he was arguing about how he was a victim of racism and he himself
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had been racist. so there was hypocrisy. and it wasn't when he was 14, it was more like when he was 14, it was more like when he was late, like, no, i'm talking about ollie robinson. i'm talking about the he said something when he was genuinely a teenager and he got he had to go through training. what about age then you cut off anything for 18 when you agree it's okay. >> and when you don't it isn't. >> and when you don't it isn't. >> i mean that's yeah, i think i think, you know, that's exactly the way i want it. chris gunter josh, people can make mistakes. and by the way, i've seen some of your old tweets. pretty outrageous. yeah. >> but i think some of your recent well, you know what? i had a lot of that archaeology stuff. and they went in and they found an old joke i did about, gaza strip was a brazilian that went wrong. and they were like, wow, look at you here. look at you. you i was like, it's just a rubbish joke i wrote ten years ago. it's a joke. >> yeah. this is the danger. okay? we're going to move on to the daily mail now. and, easyjet. what's this about, josh? i like a good easyjet story. >> yeah. fancy spreading your wings. i don't know why i did it in that accent. i apologise, easyjet planning to hire i don't know, i can't stop it now. an army of over 50 to join its cabin crew. now it's getting campaign. sorry, i don't know
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what's going for you. yeah, done too much. >> what's the story, josh? >> what's the story, josh? >> the story is that easyjet are hiring a bunch of old people or older people in their 50s. yeah, and they're appealing to over 50. they've doubled the amount of over 50s. they've quadrupled the over 60s. and what they don't say here is i think it's because they can't hire young people anymore because it's a bit of a tough job. >> yeah. it is, it's really tough. >> well, and you're not supposed to get involved with flying and oil. and even though half of just stop oil are in there, you think there's the i think it's a bit of fun. the idea of greta having to to stand up 60 year old people rather than than young people, they might have a bit more grit. >> okay, we're going to move on to this one. this is the telegraph, cressida. this is a story about people stealing from their workplace. and i think we all do that. i've only ever taken a mug and that microwave. that's all i've taken. what about you? i've seen you taken. taken some stuff. do you know what i've got? >> i've got a very fancy, christmas decoration. >> have you a bauble? oh, i got one of those. >> that's not ironically feeling sorry. >> outrageous. >> outrageous. >> a lovely sparkly bauble, the shocking statistic that reveals britain is a nation of workplace
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cheats . outrageous. mostly. as cheats. outrageous. mostly. as you said, it's just pens here and there . relax. but it goes to and there. relax. but it goes to on say that 18% of people have taken a pack or two of printer paper home. and when i read that, i wrote no , next is too that, i wrote no, next is too much. and the next sentence is 50% of people found the theft of the latter a serious matter. i'm inclined to agree. >> i think a pack of printer papeh >> i think a pack of printer paper. that's proper theft, but i think it's like when you stay at a hotel, you can take the wee bottles of shampoo, but you can't take the bulbs out of the lamps. you know, you've got to you got to know where to draw the line people very quickly. >> josh, i just want to say sorry to the person. i used their butter in the fridge @gbnews. i apologise. i'm sorry. >> josh, can you do this story in 30s? yes, yes. so, chess poison. go. >> chess player poisoned rival by smearing piece of mercury before match. this is two women, but one woman, a russian chess star. they take it very seriously. she put mercury all over the person's chess pieces . over the person's chess pieces. wow. and that's how much she hates her. and she's probably going to prison. and it just shows that women can be psychos as well. well, it just says chess players can be. >> i always thought that about chess players because it's all machiavellianism. i've got to
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think ahead. you've got to be evil, to be good at chess. i think that's right. don't you think? >> yeah, probably. i think this is five d chess now, isn't it? yes. really. >> i mean, how did she got caught? yeah, she got caught, mate. >> yeah. check mate. hey, there we go. bit of sass from josh again there. the show is nearly oven again there. the show is nearly over, but let's take another quick look at friday's front pages. so the telegraph is leading with sadiq khan saying i'm no longer safe as a muslim . i'm no longer safe as a muslim. daily mail has got riot thugs jailed and shamed on tv. as courts get tough, the eye is leading with reeves to order ministers to make major savings amid defence cuts. the daily express on friday is going with labour man held over call to cut rioters throats . the guardian rioters throats. the guardian has laws to stop. fake news are not fit for purpose, says london mayor and the daily star is attempting to body shame her suit . men attempting to body shame her suit. men lying on the attempting to body shame her suit . men lying on the beach. suit. men lying on the beach. those are your front pages . those are your front pages. that's it for tonight's show. thanks ever so much to cressida whetton and josh howie. i'll be back here tomorrow at 11:00 with leo kearse and jonathan kogan. and if you're watching at 5 am,
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>> it's 9 pm. on patrick christys tonight . disgusting. christys tonight. disgusting. nothing better. >> and we need to go that route and get rid of all. >> a suspended labour councillor is arrested on suspicion of encouraging murder at last night's protests. radical far left groups , the pro—palestine left groups, the pro—palestine brigade, they were out in force . brigade, they were out in force. >> but the show of force from the police and frankly, the show of show of unity from communities together and defeated the challenges that we've seen as the world now been pulled over our eyes with these protests . protests. >> also. >> also. >> get back at me. come on, get back. get back! i'm not. >> three years in prison for him . >> three years in prison for him. no charges yet for the men involved in the manchester airport incident. but now a second police officer is under investigation . investigation. >> and i think the way to stop the boats is to smash the
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