on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours will be debating discussing it. at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, former labour party adviser matthew laza and also political commentator lynn, my coming up in the next few hours , are you in the next few hours, are you having buyer's remorse after your purchase of sir keir starmer, or do you believe he's doing a grand old job.7 also in my nick gibb, i couldn't help feeling a little annoyed that it seems only now sadiq khan has noficed seems only now sadiq khan has noticed just how dangerous his london is becoming because it's affecting him and dame andrea jenkins will be joining me for the interview later in the show. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sam francis . francis. >> now, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. >> 3:01, the top story from the newsroom this hour. >> his majesty the king has

called for mutual respect and unity after riots across the country. >> he's been speaking out for the first time since the unrest began. king charles thanked the police and the emergency services for their efforts to restore peace, and he welcomed how communities have countered the violence. it comes after the prime minister, sir keir starmer, said the police should remain on high alert going into the weekend despite the violence easing so far. >> well around 15,000 people are taking part in an anti—racism rally in belfast following that week of unrest and disorder in the city. >> the demonstration began at writers square and made its way to city hall, where speeches have been taking place. gb news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie has more . beattie has more. >> for the second week in a row, belfast city centre is now closed down because of protests . closed down because of protests. this one, though, is pro—immigration , fronted up by pro—immigration, fronted up by the trade unions of northern ireland, gay pride and amnesty international .

ireland, gay pride and amnesty international. but more importantly, the political classes have joined in and many in those working class areas that are facing the majority. the biggest amount of undocumented immigration now feel that their political voice has gone . this parade will, due has gone. this parade will, due to end in the next hour, but it remains to seen what will happen in the coming days. >> our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie there. >> well, police forces across the uk are on standby this weekend with a cabinet office minister saying that the government is in a state of high readiness for the prospect of any further disorder. readiness for the prospect of any further disorder . protesters any further disorder. protesters are out in their hundreds in manchester, rallying against racism, though no reports of any disorder at this stage. more than 740 people have now been arrested over rioting, according to the national police chiefs council, of which 302 have so far been charged. merseyside police says two more people have also been charged following violent disorder in southport

and in liverpool, bringing the total number of people now charged there to 24. >> and that comes as a section 60 order is now in place for 12 hours in liverpool city centre , hours in liverpool city centre, and the family of six year old bebe king, who died after being stabbed in southport, said she was full of joy , light and love was full of joy, light and love and that she will always remain in their hearts. >> and they say she was sweet, kind and a spirited girl that they adore. that statement was released by merseyside police earlier today. released by merseyside police earlier today . of course, she earlier today. of course, she tragically died along with seven year old elsie dot stancombe and alice dasilva aguiar, who was nine. >> meanwhile, up to 500 mourners have attended the funeral service of teenager jay slater, who touched the lives of so many people. >> that quote from his family, the british teenager died whilst on holiday in tenerife . those on holiday in tenerife. those who attended the service wore blue in his memory. a post—mortem examination found the 19 year old died of

traumatic head injuries that they say were consistent with a fall from height. the spanish civil guard in tenerife said mr slater could have fallen in the steep and inaccessible area where he was discovered . an where he was discovered. an investigation has now been launched after a plane crashed in the state of sao paulo in brazil last night, killing all 61 people on board the black box. the special device that records the flight data was found late last night. there were 57 passengers and four crew on board. if you're watching on television, you can see here that dramatic scene of the plane spiralling out of control, falling through the air, crashing through trees, eventually landing in a large plume of smoke. that investigation into what took place now underway . dozens of place now underway. dozens of people have been killed in a strike that targeted a school turned shelter in gaza. that's according to the palestinian health officials there. according to gaza's civil defence agency , more than 100

defence agency, more than 100 people were killed, with dozens more injured. israel's military, though, said it struck the location yesterday, describing it as a target of hamas command centre. embedded in that school . centre. embedded in that school. and in sport. the men's team gb 400 metre relay team has come away with bronze at the paris olympics. the quartette of great britain's zharnel hughes, nathaniel mitchell—blake , louis nathaniel mitchell—blake, louis hinchcliffe and jeremiah azou finishing strong at the final in paris in the four by 100. that is, of course, after the women's team also won silver in their four by 100 relay and team gb's nathaniel mitchell—blake spoke to reporters after that victory and praised his team—mate zharnel . it's been an enjoyable zharnel. it's been an enjoyable experience for kind of just learn from each other and go through this process together. >> so i think that makes it even more special . >> so i think that makes it even more special. he's the >> so i think that makes it even more special . he's the fastest more special. he's the fastest man in british history, so having them as a part of our quartette will always go well

with us and always give us an opportunity to elevate the possibility of success. and for him to put his health literally on the line . for all of us to on the line. for all of us to achieve a medal, we're very grateful for that . grateful for that. >> and a big congratulations to both the men's and women's relay teams. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sam francis back with you in just over half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you sam . welcome. if >> thank you sam. welcome. if you've just tuned in i'm nana akua. this is a gb newsman live on tv, online and on digital radio. here's what's coming up in this hour. now king charles calls for unity and he praises the community spirit that countered the riots over the

last week as police remain on a high alert. as for the great british debate, this i'm asking are you having buyer's remorse when it comes to sir keir starmer.7 boris johnson has hit out at the prime minister over failing to address the root cause of the unrest. just how is keir starmer's premiership shaping up in your eyes? and royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio to give us the latest from behind the palace walls, including harry and meghan's latest venture and algerian boxer iman khalife or iman eve khalife clinches olympic gold , hitting clinches olympic gold, hitting back at critics, saying i am a woman . i'm back at critics, saying i am a woman. i'm asking back at critics, saying i am a woman . i'm asking should the woman. i'm asking should the boxer be stripped of the medal that's coming up in the next hour? and don't forget to send me your thoughts. post your comments dup news.com forward slash. you'll say . right? so slash. you'll say. right? so king charles was called for

mutual respect and unity following the riots across the country. he spoke out for the first time since the unrest began.the first time since the unrest began. the king also thanked police for their efforts to restore peace, as well as the communities who came out to counter the violence . and all of counter the violence. and all of this comes after the prime minister told forces up and down the country to remain on high alert going into the weekend. so gb news national reporter charlie peters is live from reform uk's headquarters. what's happening there? charlie >> good afternoon. nana. well it's significant. protesters gathered here, hundreds strong under the stand up to racism banner to protest outside the reform uk headquarters and specifically against nigel farage, with many people here associating reform uk and mr farage with some of the riots and violent disorder. we've seen over the last couple of weeks. and in reaction to this protest, a reform uk spokesperson spokesperson has said that this

office, the victoria street office, the victoria street office, has been a postal address only for a number of years. this demonstration and the invasion of our offices in previous years by extremist left wing campaigners , has for the wing campaigners, has for the security and health of our staff, meant that we have had to do this. they went on to say the head office is not in london and you will understand why we are not going to reveal its whereabouts given what they describe as the thuggery and aggression of the far left, who's only thought to democratic opposition is to bully and an attempt to intimidate into silence. that is the reform response to this gathering here, accusing them of being a far left group associated with thuggery and violence and sort of intimidation that reform has faced at its hq in recent years. now there are all sorts of people gathering at this protest. it's quite a broad mix. earlier i spoke to some people from the turkish marxist and leninist communist party. and

just to my left here, if i can take you with me, we've got representatives from the marxist—leninist party of germany say mlpd on that banner there, workers of all countries unite on a yellow banner to the right as well. a man i spoke to you just there moments ago told me that they had travelled to london specifically for this event. thinking that they needed to gather anti—fascists internationally to target what they described as the rise of they described as the rise of the far right in england . well, the far right in england. well, i think many people in england will hear that and be quite disturbed that there are far left activists travelling to britain to protest against democratically elected politicians. but perhaps we'll hear some perspectives on your say later today in reaction to that. say later today in reaction to that . but say later today in reaction to that. but it's a say later today in reaction to that . but it's a significant that. but it's a significant gathering here, and it comes as more demonstrations are occurring in newcastle in glasgow, birmingham, manchester and of course, here in london, where people are standing outside the reform uk headquarters protesting against what they describe as

inspiration for the violent disorder and rioting we've seen earlier. and during some of the speeches, i don't know if you can just about hear it in the distance. it's still ongoing. they were chanting nazi scum off our streets, associating perhaps reform uk with fascism and the far right people i spoke to earlier in the crowd told me that they thought that while many people had been going through the legal system for inciting violence and whipping up violent disorder, they also thought that mr farage should also be held accountable for what they said were his roles in inspiring that disorder. again, i imagine a claim and accusation that mr farage would reject very severely and beyond just the turkish and german communists here. we've also got this flag here. we've also got this flag here of a swastika, a nazi symbol and it's a sort of anti—fascist football symbol. there you see the england flag. on the other side of the flag is a man putting a swastika into a

bin. perhaps. then again , bin. perhaps. then again, protesters here associating reform and nigel farage with nazism, very stern reform and nigel farage with nazism, very stem and strong political messaging here. i've also seen a flag for sirsha don palestine, which is a irish pro—palestinian group, potentially another controversial far left inclusion into this demonstration because last week, sir don palestine held a demonstration in dublin to mark the death of ismail haniyeh, the leader of hamas. very controversial, obviously, for that to be going on. and they also were holding some flags of hezbollah and hamas at that demonstration. but here in central london, the target and the discussion is not what's going on in israel and palestine , going on in israel and palestine, but nigel farage and the reform party, that's what they're focusing on here. i'm just going to come round and show you that swastika from this side as well. this demonstration here pretty stern language, pretty stern demonstration, pretty powerful political imagery, charged stuff here. smash fascism and racism

by any means necessary. that's the message of the socialist workers here. and that's the message they're putting towards reform uk. >> all right, charlie peters, thank you very much. i just don't get it. how that's not sort of seen as sort of intimidatory. i mean that's truly protesting outside the political offices in that way. and literally implying that everybody or anyone who voted for them is, is maybe a nazi or some sort of fascist. it does seem a bit bit odd that they're allowed to be shouting such things and that's okay. but joining me now in the studio is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley. olivia, we were talking about the king, he is calling for unity. do you think he should just i mean, should he be really getting involved in this? is this normal behaviour for a to king be involved in something like this? or some people might want him to wind his neck in. >> well, that's a really interesting question. is it normal behaviour? i mean, on the face of it, king charles's comments are pretty innocuous, even banal. he says he congratulates and praises the emergency services and the police who pulled together. but then he also congratulates the communities who are combatted.

the racism on the streets. well, what exactly does he mean by that? because i think a lot of people reading that would think he means the counter—protesters , he means the counter—protesters, who, as we've just heard from charlie's report, there , are charlie's report, there, are quite controversial in themselves. there have been reports of free palestine being shouted of phrases like from the river to the sea being shouted at these counter—protests. and of course, there was the labour councillor who's been suspended from his for , job for suggesting from his for, job for suggesting that the throats of far right protesters should be cut. so is king charles. giving sort of credence to what these counter—protesters have been saying? i mean, i'm sure buckingham palace would say not. and that is probably pushing it a little bit too far. but it could be that the monarch's words are read like that. which does make you wonder. i mean, would his mother, queen elizabeth ii, have have waded into an event like this , into an event like this, >> and just briefly, apologies for some of the language that you may have overheard in that live stream there. obviously it's live. it's beyond our control. and some of the images that you may have seen as well, that you may have seen as well,

that you may have seen as well, that you may have found offensive. so king charles getting involved in this, i mean, you know, and he's talking about the communities, a lot of people might be looking at this and feeling that the, the it's not allowing people who may be feeling somewhat disenfranchised due to the massive levels of immigration, they don't have voice. >> well, that's sort of the point that boris johnson, the former prime minister, was making in his very punchy daily mail column today. he was saying that yes , of course, the rioters that yes, of course, the rioters who've resorted to violence and intimidatory behaviour should be imprisoned. and that is what keir starmer is doing . but he keir starmer is doing. but he makes the point that 34%, according to one poll of brits agree with that, have sympathy with the protesters causes if not with their means. so i.e. 34% of the country think that it is a massive problem that immigration has has reached both legal and immigration. illegal immigration has reached an all

time high. is keir starmer going to talk about that? is he going to talk about that? is he going to address it at all. well politically that is very, very difficult for him because labour has this absolutely enormous majority. it's quite a fragile coalition. you've got plenty of labour voters who are perhaps your more classic left wing labour voters of the jeremy corbyn mindset, who think that even talking about, about getting a lid on immigration is sort of racist in itself . and sort of racist in itself. and then you have quite a lot of people who voted labour at the last election who are actually quite conservative in their mindset, might have voted conservative all their life before, but felt fed up with the conservative government and thought they would give labour a chance. keir starmer needs to keep both those constituents of people on side and how is he going to do that? how is he going to do that? how is he going to do that? how is he going to toe the line on immigration? at the moment, it seems like he'd basically rather talk about anything else it does because he was given a question. >> it was a with regard to it, he evaded it. he did not answer the question . he said he was the question. he said he was focusing on communities and all of that sort of thing . but the of that sort of thing. but the bottom line is, people will

still continue to feel disenfranchised. it will be interesting to see how keir starmer moves forward with it. olivia utley, thank you very much . right. well, i'm also now much. right. well, i'm also now joined by the former sergeant harry tang. all right. harry welcome. thank you very much for joining me. harry. look some people are the purchase that we've just seen outside the reform uk headquarters. i don't know whether you've been keeping track on that. yeah, there were some, you know , some things that some, you know, some things that were really probably not acceptable in terms of how they were protesting, in terms of the language that was being used at that protest. yet they are supposedly the counter peaceful protesters, and they're actually outside an hq and implying that everybody or anyone who voted reform is some sort in some way sort of racist. is this how we should go about our business these days? because i'm worried about people who actually don't actually want to talk about the mass immigration in this country. >> yeah, i think they're just easy insults to give, aren't they? >> of racist far right. it's far right, left, right and centre. >> it's the narrative. >> it's the narrative.

>> it's the government. >> it's the government. >> and then you of course, you've got the far right who are doing all these protests. no, they're just a bunch of yobs who would have found any excuse to have a go at policing. and it's great. i love the fact that these photos are coming up and suddenly the impunity has gone. the safety in numbers. and these yobs are being locked up one by one. my concern , of course, is one. my concern, of course, is that, they by the left, the militant left in particular, are rubbing everyone up into the same group because it's easier and it means they can put their opposition in one neat pile. but what we've got here, you've i've just realised basically it's come down to you've got your either your globalist in your left sort of thing who believe there should be a free for all and they're not worried about three quarters of a million. immigration every year in this country of just 65, 67 million. i it astounds me how they're not concerned about that. i'm astounded that they aren't worried at all by the change of what's happening in our streets

with all these machete fights, and which is day by it's day after day. now, these stabbings, they're not concerned . more the they're not concerned. more the merrier. so it's really , really merrier. so it's really, really worrying that there are huge numbers of people such as myself, who do not feel obliged to wander along to a protest and throw a wheelie bin at a police officer. thank you very much. i think that's not helping at all, andifs think that's not helping at all, and it's nothing to do with the subject. but i am deeply concerned and i tend to think those on the left probably live in slightly. shall we? leafy areas probably have their own insurance for their medical care, or they have private insurance and they don't have to worry about it yet because it doesn't directly affect them. and it's other people it's directly affecting, but they don't. i think your correspondent said earlier, the irish one, they they've lost their political voice. there is nowhere to put it now and they still can't refer to violence because they don't want to. i don't want to , but i think no don't want to, but i think no one's listening and i'm being named as far right. thank you very much. i've been a police officer for 30 years, upholding the law. and i didn't get

disciplined once, you know. so and i was on the front line on shifts. so, you know, it's frustrating. and we've got a huge divide in this country. those who are patriots, you know, in the true sense of the word, they're patriotic. ironically, the king who i looked after many times actually is a vip protection officer. you know, you probably find that the patriots want to keep the royal family and yet, you know, if we want to put it in a nice, easy package, the globalists think, what are they there for? and i get what you're saying. >> and a lot of people will be heanng >> and a lot of people will be hearing that. and as was pointed out , at least hearing that. and as was pointed out, at least over 30% of hearing that. and as was pointed out , at least over 30% of the out, at least over 30% of the people agree with the sentiment that immigration needs to be dean that immigration needs to be dealt with. what will the police officers be told with regard to these protests? because, i mean, i don't know whether you've been policed to protest before, but what kind of things will they be told to be doing and looking out for? >> yeah, i was level two public order and, mutual aid and things like that as a past as well, so they will be briefed, they will be told basically they have few resources to, to take, make arrests at that point. so you're

only going to target those real specific troublemakers. and so to be honest, if people are holding flags about, they're going to be very cautious about going to be very cautious about going to be very cautious about going to them, arresting them, taking them away. and then creating a disturbance at that point of where they haven't got the resources to back it up. now, in an ideal world, that would happen because it's got to be seen to be done and it's no good doing everything behind closed doors and knowing, heanng closed doors and knowing, hearing about it. because then you get this, these accusations, and i don't know anymore whether there's this two tier policing and this side of things. so it's really important to be seen to be fair. but i can also see those police officers who are very stretched and they need basically they need muscle and brawn on the streets to stop those bricks through the shields. and they can't have two people going off with every prisoner at that point. so it's a real difficult predicament, and they've got to think ahead . and they've got to think ahead. of course. yeah, so i think it's probably the best way. i love the fact that they're publishing these 12 photographs. they're advertising that where these people have been put in prison .

people have been put in prison. but it'd be lovely if that amount of effort from the government and judicial system could happen for knife crime on our streets, that would be good as well, wouldn't it? >> well, wouldn't it just wouldn't it just. okay. well, listen, harry, thank you very much. really good to talk to you. that's harry tang. he's a former police sergeant. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, boris johnson claims the prime minister has failed to understand the public's concerns over immigration. i'm asking, are you having buyer's remorse now? sir keir starmer is in power. he's only been doing it for a month. and look at the state

good afternoon. if you just tuned in where have you been. that's right. you've only missed 25 minutes. it's all good. you're with me i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are live on tv, onune gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's online and on digital radio. and wsfime online and on digital radio. and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, are you having buyer's

remorse? former prime minister bofis remorse? former prime minister boris johnson has hit out at sir keir starmer over failing to understand the root cause of the unrest across the uk. he also accused starmer of being deaf when it comes to concerns over immigration, whilst condemning the government's decision to close the bibby stockholm barge that housed 400 asylum seekers. and with all the ongoing trouble, do you regret putting sir keir starmer in number 10? so the great british debate, sir, i'm asking, are you having buyer's remorse? did you keep the receipt? although you don't need one if there's a fault. well, joining me now is former labour adviser matthew laza and also political commentator lynne may. well, we'll come straight to you. matthew laza. as a labour man. >> so i certainly don't have, i certainly don't want to take the labour government back to the shop. >> i think he's done a really good job and i think that actually the rest of the team have as well. i think we've seen really strong performance both by yvette cooper as home secretary. but also and shabana mahmood as justice secretary, but also some of the feisty female team as well, diana

johnson and who is one of the home office ministers. and heidi alexander has come back into parliament as well. and they couldn't have been firmer. >> and i'm sorry, i just >> and i'm sorry, ijust disagree with boris. boris and the tories left a terrible situation. >> they left a totally broken asylum and immigration system. so they've got some gumption, as my name would have said, for saying that it's that labour's been deaf to concerns labour's been deaf to concerns labour's beenin been deaf to concerns labour's been in power for five weeks and of course it will. it will it will it listen to its concerns on asylum, immigration. but last week the priority was stopping the thuggery on the streets. >> okay, lin lin mei, is it lin mei or lin mei? lin mei lin may may like the month. i've got it, >> i tend to not really support labour or keir starmer purely based on economic reasons. however i think he's done a bunder however i think he's done a blinder on this. if i'm to say that reason being is as a person, an ethnic minority who has conservative ideals, who voted for a reform, who voted for brexit, who understands i work in housing, that we have a huge immigration challenge on our hands . huge immigration challenge on our hands. however, i have huge immigration challenge on our hands . however, i have never

our hands. however, i have never heard the conservatives have anything of tangible effect for immigration yet we've heard yvette cooper come out and say she's willing to raid nail bars, raid car washes, take a real hardened approach on immigration. we have had the opportunity. i've had seen conservatives, what have they done now, my thing is this i don't think that keir starmer should open the debate with regards to immigration when it comes to the riots, for the simple fact that we often say when ethnic minorities come here, we do not like the fact that they do not integrate this suspect who committed a heinous crime on the contrary, his family were very integrated. he his family is actually the beacon of immigration that we actually want . where they come actually want. where they come in, they integrate. >> he was even on a bbc video, wasn't he? >> this is just a heinous crime that's gone horribly wrong. >> but we never. but there's no connection with that crime and immigration and people. exactly, exactly false information. exactly. but i think we should park that for a moment and just focus on, okay, this was the instigator that people used as

the excuse to then initiate, but you can't indulge people on the excuse even if it's a. yeah, i'm just saying that that is just the excuse that people use, but it doesn't hide the fact that there is tension regarding immigration and now is not the time to talk about exactly. now is not the time. >> i'll tell you why. now's not the time. >> i mean, because, you know, because it's not good to do anything on false information. it's totally wrong. we know that. we accept that. but the bottom line is the bubbling cauldron that is the immigration issue is really bringing it to the top, of course. >> and that needs to be discussed. but if we if we discussed. but if we if we discuss it now, why not? we are giving rise to the behaviour of these rioters. now you i've heard. no you're not. >> let me i've heard you say, and i agree with you and i agree with many when we say, you know, this is the country of democracy, we are the country that spread across the world, law and order. >> we are the country that likes to sit and have a conversation. we don't want to turn into a third world country, as it were. did i say all that to just to just write that up? >> i'm saying in terms of

democracy and the brilliant values, the british values now , values, the british values now, if we talk about those, if we talk about those brilliant british values that we hear so often , we cannot give rise to often, we cannot give rise to smashing of buildings. >> nobody's hurting police officers . officers. >> nobody's talking. >> nobody's talking. >> so we can't link the two. >> so we can't link the two. >> no, no, no, nobody's saying that that's acceptable. but what i am saying is that there is a bubbung i am saying is that there is a bubbling cauldron of real upset with regard to the situation with regard to the situation with immigration. and i'm asking when sir keir starmer going to tackle it. he was asked the question, do you not evaded it completely? yeah. >> but do you not think when he came in as well as when they were faced in the house of commons against the conservatives, they did say they're going to take an arden approach. i think a part of when they've come. >> why won't he answer the question then? >> because if he answers the question well, he should. >> it gives them if we link it to the conversation around the riots, we are actually suggesting that they're justified in their actions and their actions are racist and they are violent. >> and they were i don't agree that that is conflating for with that that is conflating for with that with that , if he's simply

that with that, if he's simply being asked a question as to how he's going to tackle immigration, i think it's an important question. >> and he needs time. i mean, it's an important question that lots of people were asking before the riots and will be answered, will be answered again. i mean, for example. well, he dodged it this week because he doesn't want to talk about immigration. he wants to talk about this week because he wants to because the number one task this week is it is no matter where people are coming from, is to get thuggery off the streets. and that's why this idea of two tier policing, it could be smashed because we've got a labour councillor, quite rightly in custody at the moment. we've got other people in custody who are counter—protesting the so—called counter—protester or allegedly peaceful protests that not many people were arrested from, but many more should have been under his own. well, some people are being arrested. for example, two counter—protesters who threatened, some white guy are being are, i think, in court this morning. so it's i mean there's a feed through because it takes a slight lag time. the problem is that anybody who has an issue with regard to the way immigration has been handled, either both now by sir keir starmer and also by the previous government, i mean , they're not government, i mean, they're not he's not dubbing them. yeah. i'm

sorry. >> you don't know what i'm going to say. right. so if people have that issue, what is effectively done, i would argue is silence those people and actually increase the pressure of that cauldron. >> i think it's can i just quickly ask you a question as well? >> when it came to the blm ? >> when it came to the blm? >> when it came to the blm? >> i know you'll humour me on this. >> when it came to the blm marches or it came to the riots in 2011, i was completely against them. even if there were was to be evidence of, you know, a police officer killing a black person . i said, this a police officer killing a black person. i said, this is no a police officer killing a black person . i said, this is no way person. i said, this is no way to handle it. would you agree? >> i just don't agree with black lives matter in any way, shape . lives matter in any way, shape. okay, but just my direct question. >> answer my direct question when i condemned blm and i'm sure you have many times before nobody allowed. if there was, if there was a police officer that was guilty of killing a black person, would we justify would we then open the conversation to say we need to listen to their violence? >> no we would no no no no. hold on. you've asked me a question, so i'll answer it because you're answering your own question. now so if a police officer killed

anyone, irrespective of colour, yes. then i would want an investigation. that's . i investigation. that's. i wouldn't actually focus on colour. i'd find out why. why and what. and as regard to black lives matter, i thought it was. the terminology was divisive. black lives matter. it should be all lives matter. but these riots are no no no no no. but but the black lives matter riots were not acceptable either. and thatis were not acceptable either. and that is not a good response. >> i don't think you've had the same energy to these riots, to the blm. >> you don't know how much energy i've put into anything. i don't agree with rioting, but i don't agree with rioting, but i do think that you need to address the root cause of the problem. and i don't think sir keir starmer has done that, but what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay? i'd love to hear your thoughts on the way prince harry and meghan open up about the dangers of online bullying. royal biographer angela levin will be in the studio to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with sam francis . news headlines with sam francis. >> very good afternoon to you. just after 3:30, the top stories this hour, it has been revealed the older sister of a southport stabbing victim witnessed the

attack and managed to escape. lauren and ben king say their six year old daughter bebe king, one of the three girls killed at a dance class last week , was a dance class last week, was sweet, kind and spirited. they've also paid tribute to the strength and the courage of her older sibling, jeannie, who was able to flee that attack. well, that stabbing spree sparked waves of anti—immigration demonstrations across england and in northern ireland in the last few days. more than 740 people have now been arrested over the rioting, including the wife of a northamptonshire conservative councillor, 41 year old lucy connolly has been remanded in custody. she's accused of publishing material onune accused of publishing material online to stir up racial hatred . online to stir up racial hatred. up online to stir up racial hatred. up to 500 people have attended the funeral service of jay slater in lancashire. family and friends packed the chapel at accrington crematorium rather with others watching outside. most were wearing blue in memory of the 19 year old who fell to his death in a mountainous region of tenerife in june .

region of tenerife in june. israel says it has targeted hamas militants operating out of a school that was sheltering displaced palestinians in central gaza, though it's disputing the gazan health ministry's claim that over 80 people were killed in that strike. we've heard today that two chinese warships have passed through uk waters twice in just three weeks. the royal navy says that they were watched closely by a british frigate as they travelled to and from russia . travelled to and from russia. and just a quick update for you from the paris games. great britain's noah williams has won bronze in just the last few minutes. that's in the men's ten metre platform diving at the paris games. he only squeezed through qualifying in 12th, but of course saved his best dives for the final, claiming that bronze medal china taking gold and with the silver medal going to japan, congratulations to him. well, those are the latest gb news headlines for now i'm sam francis back with you at

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>> well, there's always something going on in the royal household, and this week has been no different than every saturday. as ever, i love to give you a rundown. who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin, right? angela what's on the menu? what do we got? well, the starter on the menu or the most important thing really , is the king who has really, is the king who has mentioned for the first time about what his own feelings were about what his own feelings were about what's going on with all these terrible things. >> we experience mutual respect and understanding, you know, will unite the nation. >> he praised community spirit for britain. you know all that. but my feelings are slightly different from this. and i think we need him desperately. i don't

want him to just say something we don't hear. we read it on the newspaper. we need to see his face. >> he needs to talk to us. >> he needs to talk to us. >> this is what his late mother did. >> and i thought, i remember very clearly during covid that i was lost at the beginning. >> couldn't go out, couldn't do anything. and she came on and she said, things will change. >> things will be different. it will stay with us. we can help you . and i did feel better and you. and i did feel better and there was a bit childish really, but it was sort of a grandparent in in enlarged. and i thought that that was brilliant. >> now i hope he does the same. and if he doesn't, i'm going to go in and march myself because i know that our prime minister, keir starmer, doesn't like the monarchy and he possibly won't want him on at all because he is the one them oh no, he hates it. he tried to get rid of it. he wanted to get rid of the monarchy some years ago. >> well, he also wanted to get rid of the house of lords, didn't he? but yes, but i mean, he's not a monarchy man. >> and i think that, you know,

we have to be careful there. but king charles can give him advice . king charles can give him advice. this is what he might not like. you know, he's been waiting for his position for decades. and actually, he knows and he can help. he knows he's not in control, but he can give a good idea because of his own experiences. and i and i hope that our prime minister will actually listen to him and obey what he's saying, because it seems to me utter total chaos and very, very scary because a lot of people think he is doing a good job. >> but i'm looking at it and thinking, in four weeks, if all of that happened in someone's under someone's watch, i mean, you can't blame it all at his feet. but, you know, i suppose he's quelled the protests. the protests appear to have come down and people are being arrested . so in some respects, arrested. so in some respects, yes, but i don't go for that one ehhen >> people who are arrested , >> people who are arrested, they're going to let out people who've been murdering people and things like that. i don't know, i know i know a lot about the prisons because i worked with them for ten years on and off, as a just because i like to see

people who are not just royals . people who are not just royals. and, i thought that, you know, you have to you can't. all the prisons are very , very busy and prisons are very, very busy and full, and people have to have two in a room. and that makes them fight. and it's not a very good idea. and so to get people in prisons, what are you going to do with the people who have to do with the people who have to come out? i mean, that's another huge problem, which is not really talking about. >> right? well let's move on back to some royal stuff. >> yes , there's been a lot of >> yes, there's been a lot of response to meghan markle and her husband, prince harry about this. he's taken up another job this. he's taken up anotherjob called the parents network. she did it on her birthday last sunday, and this was actually so that people she could help people whose children have died through , online nastiness. through, online nastiness. that's basically what she's going to do , so, you know, i was going to do, so, you know, i was listening to this and for goodness sake, meghan started

talking about her own alleged, killing herself. right? i don't actually believe it, but that was it. and, she she was talking about herself all the time, and it reminded me of the things she was doing before that, chatting to other women. and it was all about me. i don't think she's the right person to do that , the right person to do that, because someone who wants to kill themselves isn't the right person to help a family who've lost a child. >> you never know. i mean, i don't know whether i agree with that, but, if she's that concerned about online bullying, then maybe she might want to have a chat with the sussex squad who are sort of behaving in a very bullish manner. in particular towards princess kate, you know, that would be a great start. >> that was my next, saying and absolutely right. they are still enjoying having people attacking members of the royal family. >> i don't know whether they're enjoying it, but otherwise they'd get rid of them. >> they'd get rid of them, quite frankly . okay. not enjoying frankly. okay. not enjoying them, but to get rid of them, they don't. and a lot of people

have been really hurt. and upset by these people who threaten them. i mean , i've been them. i mean, i've been threatened to be raped and killed and all sorts of things. i don't have any proof that it's from them, but i don't know. but there may not be any no, i don't yeah, it might not be any, but i'm not sure why. i'm not sure who it is. >> there's no connection. i mean, there's no guaranteed. >> no, no, they don't sign it underneath. but the bottom line is they could , if they wanted to is they could, if they wanted to use some of their power, make a message to the sussex squad and say, please stop behaving like this. >> yes. in our name loudly. >> yes. in our name loudly. >> make it loudly. so we all hear. >> make it loudly. so we all hear . we never hear any of their hear. we never hear any of their comments about this. to say, oh, this is just terrible. let me help you. i don't think either of them are the right type, but let's go on about a wonderful person in the royal family. and that's, princess chris. princess. catherine. and she's gone to scotland to be with the family. and i think this is a huge move, not only because she's obviously not well yet and

that she's gone over, but because it shows that she very she feels very comfortable with the royal family, that she's very happy with the king and the queen and that she can she knows they will understand if she has to rest and that she can say what she likes and be, very warmed. and i think that's wonderful that she that she will do that the children will love it because they've got lots to run. >> now, do you have one more with regard to american riviera orchard? very briefly , yes. time orchard? very briefly, yes. time for one more. >> yes yes yes, yes, very quick, meghan's american riviera orchard next year. we haven't had the strawberry jam yet. if you're an ordinary person, but there's a huge setback to a trademark setback. they've got a loads and loads of irregularities that also include yoga, blankets, picnic baskets and recipe books. and it'll cost £9,000 to sort out. and it will take 14 months to get it sorted so it can come out. >> so no sales until then.

>> so no sales until then. >> angela no, no jam madame. >> angela no, no jam madame. >> no no no, not that i'd buy it, but thank you very much. thank you so much for joining me. well, of course we did talk with regard to suicide. so if you've been affected by anything that we have discussed, then you can contact the samaritans on 116123. that's 116123 if you just tuned in. welcome. it's coming up to 47 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua on the way. imane khelif wins olympic boxing gold amid the ongoing gender row. i'm asking should eamonn be stripped of the medal that's coming up in the great british debate? don't go

i'm sorry, i shouldn't laugh because this is a very serious issue. it's time for the great british debate. the sound i'm asking should the gold medal be stripped from eamonn khalife? i noficed stripped from eamonn khalife? i noticed if you take the name down, take the office. i man

khalife gender raw boxer eamonn khalife gender raw boxer eamonn khalife won gold in the women's welterweight title in paris. khalife has been at the centre of a media storm with reports suggesting the boxer possesses male x y chromosomes. is he ? was male x y chromosomes. is he? was he fighting another man as well? was it two men in the fight? they had that. >> yeah. the same chromosome challenge. >> i shouldn't laugh so apologies are right. so as well as having the excess of testosterone , the great british testosterone, the great british debate this year, i'm asking, should the gold medal be stripped from himars and khalife? joining me, former labour adviser matthew laza and political commentator lin mei. lynn, we have to start with you on that. so there were 22x wires. yeah, i mean, i'm all right with that. i'm all right with the two of those fighting. >> but when it comes to them fighting women. no, i completely disagree. i know many people have used the argument. you know, some men are higher that like , taller than others and like, taller than others and have a stronger bone density , have a stronger bone density, whatever. but if we get into the minutiae, we'll be here forever. but we can see here in terms of

biology x, y chromosome, he's a man. yes. he's lived his life or she's lived his life. if she wants to be referred to she i don't mind that. but when it comes to boxing sports, we have to protect a contact sport isn't a female sport, especially as it's a con. now, where is this going to end? if we allow this, we open the floodgates to anyone fighting anyone, especially when it comes to the protecting of women and when it does, it take someone, a woman, to have to die because of the type of punch that they receive. for us to all rethink it and say, oh, we shouldn't have done that. >> well, i just i'm going to come to you. matthew laza is this okay? >> well, i think it's a very difficult situation because because this this isn't because this isn't because because this because she lived as a woman, a whole life. she is a woman. she, you know, live as a cat. let me let me just finish nana she and but clearly there is a challenge in terms of the extra power that gives her in the ring . so what gives her in the ring. so what we need is a proper set of rules

with a proper set of tests for contact sport like that. which means that if people have excessive testosterone, then they are not fighting people who don't because otherwise that's unfair. just as we have lightweight and middle way and all of those, you know, that, khalife should not have fought in the women's, i think i think she's i think it's fine for her to be classed as a woman. i then think it's up to the boxing, the boxing authorities to, to ensure that she's in an appropriate category . disqualified. well category. disqualified. well thatis category. disqualified. well that is by a very dodgy organisation which , which has organisation which, which has huge links to, to the putin regime. but i mean it is clearly a very uncomfortable situation . a very uncomfortable situation. but this isn't a trans issue, which obviously we've debated lots on this show. >> i mean, why, in your view, is it not a trans issues? >> because she's not she's she's not trans. she's not transition. it's yeah. it's a woman who's probably intersex. >> why is no one caring about the women in this sport it seems. >> no, i agree with you. the conversation is all about her feeling. >> she's come from impoverished country. how will she feel if she's stripped? what about the women that she has to go into

the ring and face every. >> which is why i need to be a proper senator. i agree the conversation about us. there needs to be a proper set of tests and a proper set of rules. >> let's be clear, though, intersex people used to call it hermaphrodite. there's no real such thing as that because. but it's where the organs have not fully formed either way. yeah so if that person was meant to be male , it's gone wrong. that's male, it's gone wrong. that's all that's happened. so this is all that's happened. so this is a version of a man who has gone wrong, or a version of a woman who's gone wrong, which is why it becomes intersex. okay. so that's i'm not. >> yeah. it hasn't got i wouldn't say gone wrong. it hasn't fully, fully gone to. >> no no, no, it's gone wrong. i will say what i'm going to say. don't tell me what i wouldn't say. what you wouldn't say. that's what i'm saying. but would you say people places have gone wrong? no. hold on. this is where things have gone wrong. medically. yes. something has gone wrong in the birth. whilst the child is in the womb, something has gone wrong. which is why there becomes a medical condition. so it's a medical condition. so it's a medical condition. so it's a medical condition. so within that medical condition there is the ability to work out which way it should have gone. and if that's the case, the de—man khalife has x the case, the de—man khalife has x y the case, the de—man khalife has x y chromosomes , then imane x y chromosomes, then imane khelif should not be fighting against people with x xx. that's

just what i see. >> there needs to be a clear set of a set of rules that everybody, that everybody seeks to agree with. >> i will say to you. next up, london mayor sadiq khan weighs in on the unrest around the country. stay tuned for nana. nigel. that's in just a moment. weather now with catherine chalk . weather now with catherine chalk. >> it looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news hello! welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. some late evening sunny spells in the north. cloudier in the south before turning hot and humid sunday and more so into monday. so looking at the bigger picture then we've got this waving feature and this is responsible for the areas of cloud today. but higher pressure situated towards the south. so through the rest of today, then that cloud should generally melt away , generally just staying away, generally just staying along the southern coast of england. so murky here, elsewhere, clearer skies developing. any showers across

scotland generally fading as we go through the night. so underneath the clear skies could turn quite chilly for some of us in rural spots. but underneath this cloud, a humid , this cloud, a humid, uncomfortable night with some muqqy uncomfortable night with some muggy conditions here. so to start monday morning, then , like start monday morning, then, like i said, a lot of cloud around, especially across parts of devon and cornwall and along english coast, some low cloud here, elsewhere, some sunny spells perhaps turning a bit hazy with the sunshine across northern ireland and parts of northern england as well, and across scotland. sunny spells mixed with just a few showers still coming in from the west. so through the rest of sunday, hopefully most of this cloud should start lifting and breaking in that low cloud retreating back towards coastal areas elsewhere, many places seeing plenty of sunshine, showers fading across parts of scotland as well. and for many of us it is going to be a warm if not very warm and humid day. highs in the southeast up to 27,

possibly even 29 degrees. so then as we go into sunday afternoon and evening time , that afternoon and evening time, that cloud generally melting away, plenty of clear skies on offer. but notice low pressure out towards the west and that could bnng towards the west and that could bring a focus for some quite heavy, thundery showers on monday . going to be feeling very monday. going to be feeling very hot as well. highs of up to 32 on monday, but by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb

>> hello. good afternoon. it's just coming up to 4:00. welcome to gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on the big topics hitting the headlines. right now, this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it is

yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . joining me for the cancelled. joining me for the next two hours, labour party adviser matthew laza former labour party adviser matthew laza aslef. political commentator lin mei, coming up in the next few hours, i'm asking, are you having buyer's remorse after your purchase of sir keir starmer , or do you sir keir starmer, or do you believe he's doing a good job? thatis believe he's doing a good job? that is the question on x, please check it out and answer. also up next nana nigel, i couldn't help feeling a little annoyed that it seems only now sadiq khan has noticed just how dangerous london is becoming, only because it's affecting him. also, dame andrea jenkins will be joining me for the interview later, but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sam francis . news with sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. 4:00 and the top story from the newsroom. it's been revealed the older sister of a southport stabbing victim did witness the attack,

but managed to escape. lauren and ben king say their six year old daughter bebe king, one of the three girls killed at a dance class last week, was , they dance class last week, was, they say, sweet, kind and spirited and they've also paid tribute to the strength and the courage of her older sibling, jeannie, who, as i say , was able to flee that as i say, was able to flee that attack and the incident in southport sparked waves of anti—immigration demonstrations across england and in northern ireland. more than 740 people have now been arrested over the rioting , have now been arrested over the rioting, including have now been arrested over the rioting , including the wife of a rioting, including the wife of a northamptonshire conservative councillor. 41 year old lucy connolly has been remanded in custody accused of publishing material online to stir up racial hatred. well, in belfast, 15,000 people are taking part in one of those protests. an anti—racism rally following a week of disorder there. the demonstration began at writers square and made its way to city hall, where speeches have been taking place today. gb news

northern ireland reporter dougie beattie has more for us for the second week in a row, belfast city centre is now closed down because of protests. >> this one, though, is pro—immigration, fronted up by the trade unions of northern ireland. gay pride and amnesty international. but more importantly, the political classes have joined in and many in those working class areas that are facing the majority. the biggest amount of undocumented immigration now feel that their political voice has gone. this parade will due to end in the next hour , but it to end in the next hour, but it remains to be seen what will happenin remains to be seen what will happen in the coming days. >> meanwhile, the king has called for mutual respect and for unity after those recent riots, he's been speaking out for the first time since the unrest began more than a week ago. king charles has thanked the police and the emergency services for their efforts to restore peace, and he's welcomed

how communities have countered the violence. it comes, of course, after the prime minister sir keir starmer, said the police should remain on high alert this weekend despite though the violence easing. so far . a 32 year old man has been far. a 32 year old man has been charged today over a shooting in east london in may, which left a nine year old girl seriously injured. she's still in hospital but in a stable condition after the attack at a restaurant in dalston in london. javon riley, from farnborough, appeared in court this morning accused of four counts of attempted murder. he's now been remanded in custody and we will we understand he will appear at the old bailey next month . old bailey next month. meanwhile, up to 500 people have attended the funeral service of jay slater today in lancashire. family and friends packed the chapel at accrington crematorium with others watching from outside, most attending wore blue in memory of the 19 year old, who sadly fell to his death in a mountainous region of tenerife in june . concert goers

tenerife in june. concert goers in cornwall have been left with broken bones after what's been described as a terrifying crowd surge at boardmasters music festival, which saw speakers fall into the crowd there. a number of people, including children we understand were caughtin children we understand were caught in that crush, with some taken to hospital. however, devon and cornwall police have confirmed today there were no serious injuries and it's understood that festival will continue . dozens of people have continue. dozens of people have been killed in a strike that targeted a school turned shelter in gaza city, according to the palestinian health officials there. according to the civil defence agency in gaza, more than 100 people have been killed, with dozens more injured. israel's military, though, says it struck the location yesterday, describing it as a target of hamas command embedded in the school . an embedded in the school. an investigation has now been launched after a plane crashed into the state of sao paulo in brazil, killing all 61 people on

board. the black box was found late last night to recover the flight data. there were 57 passengers and four crew on board. if you're watching on tv , board. if you're watching on tv, you can see there the moment that that dramatic scene of the plane spiralling out of control crashes through the trees and eventually lands in a large plume of smoke . two chinese plume of smoke. two chinese warships have passed through uk waters twice in just three weeks. the royal navy has said that they were closely watched by a british frigate as they travelled to and from russia . travelled to and from russia. and a quick update on the olympics team gb have won their first medal of the day today at the paris games, thanks to the diver noah williams. he secured bronze in the men's ten metre platform final and they could also be some more british medals to come in the taekwondo, with kayden cunningham and rebecca mcgowan in contention later and earlier. sadly, erin mcneice missed out in the climbing, while emile cairess finished

fourth, just missing that bronze in the men's marathon. those are the latest gb news headlines . the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm sam francis. your next update at 4:30 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> hello. good afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. sadiq khan said he no longer feels safe in london as an openly muslim politician. well, welcome to the club. i don't feel safe in london as an openly woman woman. i haven't done in particular in the last five years, sadiq said that he had felt triggered by the events of the last week, and was heartbroken that his children's generation had felt scared. it's not just your

children's generation, it's all of us. what i can't work out is how he has the gall to say that with a straight face. after all, he's been in charge as mayor of london since may 2016, and part of this has to be related to how he's gone about running the city. he can't absolve himself of all responsibility for the state of it . under of all responsibility for the state of it. under sadiq's guidance, london has seen record knife crime, an epidemic in burglary and sky rocketing attacks on women and girls . try attacks on women and girls. try being a woman, a black young male or anyone who lives in any form of accommodation in our great capital. so that's pretty much everyone were all afraid, sadiq, he says he feels unsafe because he's a muslim . really? because he's a muslim. really? well, what about how the jewish people feel they have had to put up with ten months worth of pro—palestine protests every weekend, which many have called peaceful? i would argue, chanting for the river to the sea and free palestine and chanting allahu akhbar in an aggressive manner whilst waving the palestinian flag can be very

intimidating, in particular to jewish people who have had to hide their identity for fear of attack, many leaving london on the weekends to avoid being embroiled in the protest. there's plenty of evidence to show that in the interests of jewish people's security, it was best for them to stay away from the capital. what did he do about that? he didn't appear bothered. these protests have been going on for almost a year, but yet it seems only now it's affecting him. he's noticed, yet he's had private protection and he's had private protection and he's got a security cavalcade . he's got a security cavalcade. none of us have any of that. so whilst no one wishes ill of him andifs whilst no one wishes ill of him and it's not nice to be scared . and it's not nice to be scared. welcome to the club, sadiq. the question is, what are you going to do about it? what are you going to do about the safety of all londoners ? you seem more all londoners? you seem more concerned putting up cameras that will catch people in the ulez zone, the ones that will catch perpetrators of real crime. now you've woken up to the dangers that even you are

now facing in our great capital, the city that you are in charge of . what are you going to do of. what are you going to do about it? what are you going to do about keeping us all safe ? do about keeping us all safe? well, before we get stuck into the debates, here's what else is coming up today. king charles calls for unity and praises the community spirit that countered the riots over the last week. as police remain on high alert. the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is vat on private schools a false economy ? parents schools a false economy? parents of children who attend private schools are being told the state sector is full, as many attempt to get their kids on before the fees go up. and in the pulse, i'm asking, can you train your brain to beat chronic pain? we'll talk to top health expert about living with long term conditions and later, are we asking should huw edwards be forced to pay back the £200,000 salary after pleading guilty to making indecent images of children? now that is all coming up in the next hour. don't

forget. send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com forward slash. you're safe . but forward slash. you're safe. but i'm now joined by mr uri geller. uri, welcome to the program. i hope you heard what my thoughts on sadiq khan's comments. i'm wondering if you have any views yourself . yourself. >> well, first of all, welcome back and i'll simply continue your monologue and i have a solution for sadiq khan. >> wait till the end. >> wait till the end. >> okay. look nana, while you've been away, i've been watching the scenes of chaos. chaos unfolding on the streets of britain, this terrible tragedy in southport has caused your streets to boil over. >> and by the way, this amazing painting behind me in my museum is from southport . it's by painting behind me in my museum is from southport. it's by a wonderful artist called daniel adler who lives there. look here in the middle east, we're used to seeing unrest, but now we're wondering what's going on in britain . things have got so bad

britain. things have got so bad that even the mayor, like you said of london sadiq khan, says he no longer feels safe there. as a muslim . well, i'm genuinely as a muslim. well, i'm genuinely sorry to hear that. but for ten months the mayor has turned a blind eye. like you said , to blind eye. like you said, to jewish people and other ordinary londoners who have not felt safe because of the pro—palestinian marches in london, which the mayor has not lifted a finger to stop. look, in my opinion, sadiq khan has let london become toxic while hundreds of thousands of islamists marched through the caphal islamists marched through the capital. jewish people, like you said, felt intimidated and threatened. why didn't the mayor speak up then? in fact, sadiq khan actually praised the marches for allegedly being peaceful. well, nana, they were not peaceful. if you were a

jewish person or an israeli visitor , they were frightening visitor, they were frightening and aggressive . i'd like to and aggressive. i'd like to remind you that sadiq khan criticised jewish londoners when they said central london had become a no go area forjewish on saturday. now the mayor says he now says he is. it is not safe as an openly practising muslim. he says that now here is coming to my solution. let me grab this photograph . let me grab this photograph. let me tell you something shocking. nana racism in britain does not come from just the right, but these days the biggest racists are on the left. the so—called anti—racist marches are led by groups which do not recognise my country , israel, and who think country, israel, and who think any jewish person who supports israel is not welcome. that nana thatis israel is not welcome. that nana that is racism. it is ironic.

look, wait, wait. it is ironic that here. okay, let me just tell you the solution. >> i'll give you 10s quickly , >> i'll give you 10s quickly, >> i'll give you 10s quickly, >> this guy yousef and khan, i have an island off the scottish coast. they can go and live there. there's no racism there. they live there among the puffins. i will allow you to immigrate there . immigrate there. >> it's such a pleasure. thank you so much. of course, those are euros thoughts. sadiq khan is not here to defend himself. he would say that he's protecting this great capital. but from what i've seen and what you've seen, you can make your own judgement. but right now, gb news national reporter charlie peters is live. he's following the protests as they marched through london. there were they were at the reform london hq. charlie, where are we now? what's happening ? what's happening? >> well, we're now in whitehall . >> well, we're now in whitehall. nana marching towards downing street, where the to stand up racism protest is moving in. you can hear the chanting behind me. say it loud, say it clear . say it loud, say it clear. refugees are welcome here. they are protesting outside the reform uk headquarters . earlier,

reform uk headquarters. earlier, many people there saying that nigel farage was to blame for much of the violent disorder and rioting we saw earlier this week. now we've also seen some comments from people here associating fascists and nazis and the far right with much of the rioting we've seen saying people chanting nazi scum off our streets, which of course is quite charged political commentary considering it's being delivered outside the reform uk london office. now, reform uk london office. now, reform told us a spokesperson said that that area was not a specific location that they used. they keep their actual headquarters hidden because of concerns from far left thugs. that's their language now. riot police just moving across here as the territorial support group of the met police move in to ensure this demonstration continues peacefully. and it comes as there are marches across the country. we've seen them in birmingham , manchester, them in birmingham, manchester, cardiff, newcastle, glasgow , cardiff, newcastle, glasgow, edinburgh and also here in

london. this is probably one of the biggest we've seen in the country today. the lure of protesters . now attracting protesters. now attracting additional numbers arriving just in front of downing street. now some of the protesters moving opposite a classic protest position in the capital. and this comes, of course, as the police were on high alert for additional protests and demonstrations this weekend, 6000 specialist officers put on duty to be deployed nationwide if needed. the crown prosecution service also have an additional 100 prosecutors available for the courts. the courts are working this weekend. many magistrates are dealing with charges and sentencing today. for some of the scenes we've witnessed in the last fortnight, but here this has been a peaceful protest by stand up to racism . other groups present as racism. other groups present as well. we've seen turkish and indeed german communists present at this protest. those from the party had flown in from germany to support what they described

as the anti—racist anti—fascist movement in london. so significant protests taking place at this location, as it is across the country today, additional police on duty. and also there were comments in the week, i think , leading up to week, i think, leading up to quite a nervy weekend from the police with the met commissioner, sir mark rowley , commissioner, sir mark rowley, on thursday praising it appears the significant demonstration that took place on wednesday night, saying that it was a show of unity from our communities. but he was sort of rebuked by cabinet office minister nick thomas—symonds, who said that he did not want to encourage any demonstration. was a big demonstration. was a big demonstration here in the end. hundreds marching now on downing street, having gathered outside the reform uk headquarters earlier. now, there haven't been any arrests here, but there were any arrests here, but there were a few in newcastle earlier today. one man arrested on suspicion of possession of a weapon, a hammer, was reportedly removed from him at that location. that was a standoff

between anti—migration and anti—fascist protesters. no counter—protest here by contrast, just stand up to racism's presence as they they were standing outside the reform uk headquarters chanting that nazi scum had to go off their streets and now they're going to be gathering outside, downing street. >> all right. thank you very much, charlie peters. he's there at the anti—racism or anti something protest. thank you so much. well okay so that's what's been going on. let's bring in my panel been going on. let's bring in my panel. labour. former labour party adviser matthew laza political commentator mid—may. right okay. so let's start with sadiq khan. >> yeah. well let me defend sadiq. i mean, i think it's perfectly reasonable for sadiq to say that he's felt uncomfortable as a british, a british muslim this week, but, you know, i mean, clearly as mayor of london, it's his duty to make sure that we all feel safe on our streets. i mean , one safe on our streets. i mean, one of the things, actually, i mean, let's not forget what happened in southport. one of the things that we do need to concentrate on is knife crime. crime overall, including violent crime, is going down. but knife crime, is going down. but knife crime is a real scourge and more

needs to be done. and he needs to have the leadership of that as mayor i wouldn't say he's done nothing, but there is. there is clearly more to be done. >> name one thing. >> name one thing. >> well, he's he's there. the various initiatives on knife crime, he's got a new commissioner of the met, for example , because specifically on example, because specifically on knife crime, what they what they were trialling is the approach that worked in glasgow, which is to treat note to treat it as a, as, as, as a social problem, and as, as, as a social problem, and a health emergency, which is, which actually worked in glasgow. >> nothing . it won't help. lynn. >> nothing. it won't help. lynn. >> nothing. it won't help. lynn. >> yeah. that that approach will not help. we've seen cuts across the board. public sector hasn't had the funding. so that's not going to work. and we can see i often do charity work with young people and i can see even young black boys are fearful of their own lives . this black boys are fearful of their own lives. this is black boys are fearful of their own lives . this is not black boys are fearful of their own lives. this is not something a red herring or anything, and as you previously said, i doesn't matter what race you are. i've spoken to nearly every sort of person from every background. i don't know how he managed to get in. i don't know anyone who supports him, really. obviously there must be some.

>> he's he did. i mean, he won a bigger majority than his previous victory. >> it's who conservatives put up against him. but that my major point is we have heard overwhelmingly things about, you know , colourful crossings. we've know, colourful crossings. we've heard about ulez, we've heard about things that really damage and attack the working class person where we need to be feeling safer. and now it's taken him. i don't want to. you know, talk down his feelings. they're very valid. i do think many muslims right now are fearful and they have every right to be. when we've seen what's happened over the last week or so, however, he's coming from a place of privilege. he's got security. and for him to now recognise, i'm fearful. what, like you said, what about the rest of us? however, when it comes to, you know, the jewish community, i will have to correct this because i grew up alongside the jewish community in stamford hill and they were came out in their vast numbers that many of these protests. so i don't think we should just lump them, no, no communities together and say they don't feel safe at these marches. so many of my jewish friends were there and visibly looked jewish.

>> i'm doing it. and they were there. i'm doing it based on the information that i've seen. also based on what gary mond from the national jewish assembly has said. so if you were jewish, you probably you would be a risk for you to go to one of these processes because you wouldn't know whether they are this is one where there are more nicer people there or there more people there or there more people who aren't. so many people who aren't. so many people did stay away. many jewish people did stay away from central london and they have been and they still are when the protests. >> well, i think in the early days of the protests, there may have been guilty of something of a light touch. we have seen charges quite rightly emerge for people who used threatening language and behaviour, even though they claim they were doing it in the name of gaza. if you do, threatening behaviour, whatever your cause, you will be dean whatever your cause, you will be dealt with by the full force of the law should be. >> and very briefly, because i've got about about 30s your thoughts on the protests now, they were protesting outside where they thought was the reform hq. they're blaming nigel farage. yeah. >> i can't accept this. if you're an adult, you should take full accountability of what you do and it doesn't matter what you say. and the same with trump and the, you know, capitol hill. how can you as a person, if i hear someone say, as a mixed

race woman, get out and take your sword on the streets, am i going to do it? i'm not saying that nigel said anything remotely similar, but stop blaming political figures and people take accountability. we're removing accountability from these people that engage in riots. >> it was great to see communities coming together peacefully, which and which they did in the most part. what we don't want is rent a crowd. we don't want is rent a crowd. we don't need people flying in from germany. to add to this quiet on the street. >> well, the rent a mob seems to come to all these things, including the current thing that's going on now. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. next, it's time for the great british debate. this unmasking is bat on private schools a false economy. don't go

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it's digital radio. i'm nana akua and wsfime digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time for the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking is that on private schools a false economy as parents of children who attend private schools were being told the state sector is full, as many attempt to get their kids out before the vat is added and that's as others are informed that's as others are informed that they can apply for transfers midway through the yeah transfers midway through the year. but only one month in advance, according to reports . advance, according to reports. some families are being forced to sell their homes in order to keep their children in the private school system. and with fees set to soar to nearly £20,000 a term in some places. so for the great british debate this year, masking is vat on private schools a false economy. well joining me now former labour party adviser matthew laza, also political commentator lin mei lynn, may i just think this is non—progressive. >> it's not aspirational. and i think we're in a time now where so many people have benefited from social mobility, where they manage to have just enough money to be able to want better for their children, send them to private school. and it actually alleviates the pressure for

spaces on public schools. sorry, pubuc spaces on public schools. sorry, public sector schools. and for them to do this , the reason why them to do this, the reason why their policies annoy me so much is because the people that seem to be getting hit the most are those middle earners are those ones that are maybe from ethnic minority backgrounds, from poorer backgrounds, and they've managed to really claw their way out of poverty, and they're hit with these types of policies. now, it's not going to be the uber rich that are going to be affected, and it's not going to be the people who you know, don't have any aspiration of sending their children to these private schools . private schools. >> also, for the private schools, it might be some of those ones because the bursaries, the private schools will get rid of the bursaries. >> well, not just that, as well. we have so many parents who have children with certain disabilities that private schools are the only schools that accommodate those disabilities, and they've managed to just save enough to be able to. and they're going to be able to. and they're going to be hit now. and when asked in interviews time and time again, labour cannot answer how this will raise enough, how they'll get the teachers and how they'll

be able to create and magic up these spaces. now that people are going to have to take their children out of private school, it's going to raise, i think, about 1.7 billion. >> and that is there's about 650,000 people who were in private schools , that is falling private schools, that is falling as people, as the independent sector are noticing that people aren't going matthew laza are you going to defend this? yeah, absolutely. >> because it's because it's totally aspirational, >> because it's because it's totally aspirational , because totally aspirational, because labour's aspiration is for every child in britain to have a good school in their neighbourhood. and 93% of britain's children go to state schools, during the years of austerity under the tories, those state schools had to take serious cuts. and so actually it's up to the it's up to the private schools themselves to find economies, to find ways. maybe they have to postpone this. you know, the shiny new drama block for a yean shiny new drama block for a year, well, they , well they year, well, they, well they well, they do it again. it's not the politics of envy at all. >> drama block even you're saying it. >> why should why should 93% of kids subsidise the other 7% clear they're not subsidising

the other 7%. >> they just explain to you very briefly the parents are paying for children at these schools. so it's about £7,500 a head that comes out of taxes from each to subsidise each one of these kids at a state school. not only are the parents paying for that, they're also paying for their own kids private education. they're actually taking the strain off the private education and off the state system. and i think they should be given some sort of rebate. but listen, we've got to go to this gb news national reporter charlie peters is live from a counter protest march. what's happening there? charlie, are you okay, yeah. >> i'm okay. i'm cosy. it's just >> i'm okay. i'm cosy. it'sjust another day in central london. but i don't know if you saw. but as we were just broadcasting live at the end of that shot on downing street on whitehall, just behind me , as the crowd just behind me, as the crowd started to gather in front of number 10, a group i think recognised that we were gb news and a few had noticed us before , and a few had noticed us before, perhaps that is the nature of gb news. we are hated, adored but never ignored. and when they saw who we were, they started chanting gb news off our streets. that came after they

were chanting nazi scum off our streets and that quite heated atmosphere, including a couple of the people who were on the march, saw a man come towards us and try to block our broadcast, touching the camera and our cameraman. i think we might be able to show you that in a clip, and also attacked another member of my team, hit him as he came forward to try and move him away from our excellent cameraman, who's done a fantastic job in difficult circumstances today, surrounded by many people who don't want us to be here. i think we can show you the clip now of what happened. take it away . that's me. that's that's away. that's me. that's that's me, i will. >> he's touching me right now. film it. see yourself in the back, back, back. >> my job is your safety . no, >> my job is your safety. no, no, no. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you. is that your bag? >> thank you. is that your bag? >> yes. this is. >> thank you. is that your bag? >> yes. this is . oh, well, he >> yes. this is. oh, well, he was taken away from us by the

police there. >> who very helpfully swarmed in on the situation . and that was on the situation. and that was that. that was an unacceptable , that. that was an unacceptable, really, an unhappy ending to the to stand up racism march that was outside the reform uk headquarters. we came to cover it, as we always do , impartially it, as we always do, impartially and balanced. looking towards these protests, understanding what they're about. but it . what they're about. but it. seems that some people here don't want gb news to be covering it. some people don't want freedom of the press at their marches, but that won't deter us and i look forward to attending the next march. >> thank you very much. charlie peters out there at the to stand up racism march, which ended with that briefly to you , with that briefly to you, matthew laza you see that these are supposedly peaceful protesters supposedly meant to be on the side of the good, the hashtag be kind brigade. and there you see that it's completely unacceptable. >> i'm very glad to see that the police did pounce on him in significant numbers. who knows if they will take further action, but they'll certainly, i hope, be discussing it further with the guy involved who was

causing the trouble. we don't want rent a mob on our streets from any angle. >> now your thoughts? >> now your thoughts? >> yeah. i think these things can't be accepted across the board. and you know, i don't see why there's so much hatred towards gb news when people should be allowed to express their various opinions . however, their various opinions. however, what we saw today is nothing like what we've seen in terms of the riots. so, you know, i still think it's overwhelmingly positive and peaceful. >> well , positive and peaceful. >> well, yeah, it may not be anything in terms of the riots. and i would do agree with that. but that's how these things start, don't they? a lot of them start, don't they? a lot of them start peacefully like that. but we don't want people aggressive like that on the streets behaving in that manner. but stay tuned. loads more still to come. we were talking private schools. your thoughts on this ? schools. your thoughts on this? gbnews.com/yoursay? i'm going to read some of those in a few moments time. and we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. but can you train your brain to beat chronic pain that is coming up in the pulse? stay tuned. first, let's get your latest news headlines with sam francis .

news headlines with sam francis. >> very good afternoon to you. just after a 4:30. and we start with a recap then of that news we've just heard from our reporter charlie peters, that anti—racism demonstrators have taken to the streets of london, countering almost two weeks now of anti—immigration protests and riots across the country. thousands of campaigners have been seen carrying signs supporting refugees and opposing racism and islamophobia. it follows widespread unrest sparked by false claims that were linked to the knife attack in southport. authorities are hoping the violence is subsiding, but thousands of specialist officers remain out on the streets. more than 740 people have now been arrested over the rioting, including the wife of a northamptonshire conservative councillor . well, conservative councillor. well, it's been revealed that the older sister of one of those, southport stabbing victims witnessed the attack and managed to escape. lauren and ben king say their six year old daughter, one of the three girls killed at

a dance class last week, was sweet, kind and they say spirited. they've also paid tribute to the strength and the courage of her older sibling, jenny. up to 500 people have attended the funeral service of jay slater in lancashire today . jay slater in lancashire today. family and friends packed the chapel at accrington crematorium, with others watching on from outside . most watching on from outside. most attending were wearing blue in memory of the 19 year old, who fell to his death in a mountainous region of tenerife in june . israel says it has in june. israel says it has targeted hamas militants operating out of a school that was sheltering displaced palestinians in central gaza. it disputes the gazan health ministry's claim that over 80 people were killed in that attack. two chinese warships have passed through uk waters twice in just three weeks. the royal navy says they were closely watched by a british frigate as they travelled to and from russia, and in the last

hour or so, great britain's noah williams has won bronze in the men's ten metre platform diving at the paris olympics , though he at the paris olympics, though he only squeezed through qualifying in 12th. but saved his best dives for the final. china took gold and the silver medal went to japan. congratulations to noah. well, those are your latest gb news headlines for now i'm sam francis much more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash

>> and a bit on the. >> and a bit on the. >> you just tuned in where have you been? it's just coming up to 38 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. this is gp news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio now. broadcaster kirsty young has opened up about living with the chronic

condition of fibromyalgia, and this causes her to feel pain all over her body. and according to statistics, around 2.8 million people are out of work due to long term illness and with around 43% of people suffering from some form of chronic pain. today i'm asking, can you train your brain to beat this type of illness? well, joining me now is health expert lucy johnston. lucy. so talk to me about this, this particular bit of research. what are they saying ? what are they saying? >> well, i think the point is we know that chronic pain has traditionally been treated with painkillers, powerful painkillers, powerful painkillers , including opioids, painkillers, including opioids, sedatives and sort of nerve blocks. >> and we know now the latest research shows that these very disappointing in results. >> it doesn't tend to help people in pain. and actually very often it's doing more harm than good. so as, the broadcaster has said, you know ,

broadcaster has said, you know, doctors are very quick to write prescriptions and just send people away. and these prescriptions for painkillers are, we know, doing many people more harm than good. 80% of people, for example, on the opioids, the powerful opioids are having side effects and about a third of them are developing dependence and addiction. so that's just one example. and pain is we don't really understand pain. and this chronic pain is when the body is giving missed wrong messages. the algorithm in the brain is just misfiring for some reason and is causing pain signals. and that pain is real. people genuinely are feeling pain. but what we're learning now is that a lot of learned long term conditions, including pain , are conditions, including pain, are mixed up very much with social factors. so trauma, stress, social isolation, poverty, the cost of living crisis. and so if we can look at patients with

this in mind, this sort of composite, kaleidoscopic picture and also get to help them understand that the pain doesn't necessarily lead is not about harm , it's about the brain going harm, it's about the brain going wrong. we can perhaps do better to help people rehabilitate slowly and to improve their lifestyles and lives, >> that's the thing with chronic pain , isn't it? if you suffer pain, isn't it? if you suffer from it, it's so debilitating. and also, i mean, i had a knee injury and literally i can always feel the knee. you can basically feel the thing that's in pain all the time , talk to me in pain all the time, talk to me about you wrote a little piece. in the times, talk to me about your piece that you wrote , your piece that you wrote, >> well, the, i are you are you on pain? >> on pain? is that. yeah. so, i haven't written i have written quite a bit on this subject and mostly focusing on the overuse

of drugs and the overuse of opioids, and it's become a huge problem in this country. and we know that 1 in 4 people now is on long term painkillers, which is a huge cost to the public purse. and also it is not it's not doing most people, you know, it's doing most people more harm than good. and i think the, the thing that we need to do is to get doctors to review prescriptions for people on those long term drugs and to just look at them. and if it's not working to stop and to look at other things, we have a whole new movement that the government's trying to promote, something called social prescribing, getting people into dances and art classes , which is dances and art classes, which is fine, but not necessarily any good. if your house is going to be repossessed tomorrow. so we've got to look at people as individuals and work out what's best for them. but we do know that for most people with long term conditions, this is when

the brain has gone wrong feeling that pain, you know, more than three months after an acute injury will mean that you're suffering from chronic pain and that that pain is not, is not corresponding to harm or injury. it's now something else is going on.and it's now something else is going on. and so we need to look beyond that and deeper into it and help patients move on with their lives and improve their lives, which we can see from research. and i think the government is well aware of this is more effective than just writing out prescriptions for people, which is still we're doing too many of those, >> all right, lucy johnson, thank you very much. really good to talk to you. thank you so much . right. well, keep your much. right. well, keep your thoughts coming to gbnews.com/yoursay. lots of people have been getting in touch with their views, maggie says we've been talking about the, the riots, but also the protests. and maggie p says shows the power of just listening and watching. the left wing can't help but prove their

true colours and resort to violence and then act as the victim, this person says, let's see what else i've got here, lots of you getting in touch. keep them coming. the fantastic, brilliant gb news reporter charlie peters was assaulted by a man who also assaulted the cameraman. it comes as no surprise whatsoever that the, that the attacker was at one of these so—called peaceful marches . these so—called peaceful marches. so lots of people are saying their thoughts. catherine says , their thoughts. catherine says, well done, charlie, saying stand up well done, charlie, saying stand up to racism in all its depths, and then janet says , just shows and then janet says, just shows how peaceful the lefties are. well done, charlie, and team the troublemaker look completely crazy and dangerous. graham says, thank you charlie. you're a credit to the profession and to gb news. so lots of you are getting in touch with your thoughts. as charlie peters and the cameraman were assaulted at the cameraman were assaulted at the stand up to racism or the anti—racism march. and there, as you can see on the on your

screens now so—called peaceful protests, nigel says charlie was extremely fortunate that he wasn't attacked more severely. the guy was unhinged with rage. so that's what we're talking about. so any whatever your right to the left, all the extremes, either one, they're dangerous. and it doesn't matter where you are. any protests can turn violent if you've just tuned in. welcome. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the great british debate in the next houn great british debate in the next hour, i'm asking, should huw edwards hand back the £200,000? don't go

good afternoon. 47 minutes after 4:00. welcome. i'm nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate this, and i'm asking, should huw edwards pay back the bbc the £200,000, the bbc have told the former presenter huw edwards to give it back as if give back the part of

his salary that he pleaded guilty after he pleaded guilty to possessing indecent images of children. now he's thought to have earnt roughly 200 k following his arrest and this comes after the culture and media secretary lisa nandy also called up the 62 year old to hand back the money. so for the great british debate, this, i'm asking should huw edwards pay the bbc back ? basically pay us the bbc back? basically pay us back because we pay the bbc. so joining me, lynne may and also matthew laza lynne may. >> yes, i think he should pay it back.i >> yes, i think he should pay it back. i think he should pay more back, he's, he's he's essentially his . this is the essentially his. this is the thing. there's two different sides to look at this. there's the hr policy, the confines of the hr policy, the confines of the law or policy legislation. and there's the moral high ground. and i think, yeah, if he wants any form of chance of redemption, this would be a very tiny step forward . but then, you tiny step forward. but then, you know, if he's not getting a

salary anymore, he's not going to be employed by anyone. i think probably from his own point of view, and looking out for his family, he's probably not going to be willing to part with any money at the moment. and i wish a judge could and would mandate him to have to give money back. >> but what would that serve if he gave the money back? well, i think he's done his crime, which is disgusting. >> absolutely. well, because i think because clearly the bbc, i'm glad the bbc has done done this because there was some scepticism that the bbc would do it, and i'm glad that they've done it. i'm glad that lisa nandy has led calls for it to be done. it would, it would. it's absolutely morally right for the bbc to demand it because, you know, he's taking the you know what? because it was he was still being paid. he was ill. while the earlier and it wasn't charges it was more the early incidents were investigated, but once he was charged with these horrible offences then clearly he shouldn't have been paid from then. i mean, sadly, as you say, as if, i mean, he's not going to handit as if, i mean, he's not going to hand it back. i mean, i wouldn't have thought, who knows, maybe he'll want to get a little bit of decency back by. by doing the

right thing. let's hope so. >> but this means that there's no remorse as well. so i think if there is on the cards, a custodial sentence, this should strengthen it. if he's not willing to give it back . willing to give it back. >> but i just you know, i don't think he should have been paid it in the first place. it had been me. yeah with to be honest, i don't get why he got a pay rise. >> what was extraordinary was he got a pay rise. you do not. i mean, you you and i both worked at the bbc. you don't automatically get a pay rise. i don't know what was going on there. >> well, i mean, the bbc have got form for not really looking into things deeply enough. i mean, they had the whole affair with jimmy savile. yeah. that that went under the radar and we don't know who knew what. there you had martin bashir and his the behaviour with the letter from princess diana. >> that's a good argument for the licence fee once again. >> exactly. and then you had the russell brand not not russell wilson name and what's his name? russell. russell brand . russell russell. russell brand. russell brand, jonathan ross, jonathan ross. yeah. so you had that incident as well. and there have been other things, you know, that have gone on the bbc. i just don't get why they manage to sort of because they've literally said, oh, nothing. >> i understand why they're playing catch up weeks. >> it took seven weeks to even

address this properly. when the parents went to them, there were clearly questions to answer. >> and on the on on the issue, i don't understand why. once he was charged and the bbc was told about it because they met, informed the bbc why his why his salary wasn't instantly frozen at that point. obviously, if the bbc had been forced legally to pay bbc had been forced legally to pay it, they would have had to do that. but they should have started proactively stopped paying. >> well, as we ask our great british voices, because this show is nothing without their views, let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. and today i've got two of you, mark sheridan from chester, and also jackie samson. mark sheridan, i'll start with you , huw edwards. you, huw edwards. >> yeah. the bbc, he needs to pay >> yeah. the bbc, he needs to pay that money back on on honesty and decency, >> i just read that he's worth 3.8 million. it's like somebody, a millionaire going into court and, for the people out there, 200,000 is a lot of money for him. it's peanuts . so the him. it's peanuts. so the morality side of it. >> but i also look at the bigger picture. >> how long did they know or go he went on notice that he was

actually a paedophile , so he actually a paedophile, so he could be in a position to spill the beans if he's forced to pay back money. and we all mentioned about his pension before. it's, it's 300,000 pension. the decency there would for them because he's not honoured his contract to basically say, well, you're not going to get 300,000 a year, you're going to get 150,000 and 150,000 can go to a children's charity. that would give the bbc some credibility back of, you know, the things that have gone on in the past. how long did he go, you know, unnoficed how long did he go, you know, unnoticed on the bbc? we watched him for many, many years , you him for many, many years, you know, i sat down and i watched him on a programme on the bbc and he was discussing how to, give advice to, school reporters and the words he used was accuracy and honesty and trust. and he's telling these school kids that, you know, the one thing the bbc prided themselves on is obviously making sure that things are accurate and, you

know, and truthful, and we find out that it's not truthful . out that it's not truthful. >> well, that seems to be the way jackie sampson, what were your thoughts? >> hello. >> hello. >> i think it is morally the right thing to do for him to return the money. and if he has any remorse as your analyst said, he will, >> and i think it's the right thing for the bbc and the government to expect it as licence payers already so much of our trust has been undermined in the bbc and i think there's a hornet's nest there of things that could well come out about people, people things are happening in the past. i think huw edwards won't be the last one. and i think this, them asking for it , it's the right asking for it, it's the right thing. and he would be doing the morally right thing. >> i'm not sure he will, though . >> i'm not sure he will, though. mark sampson and jackie , jackie mark sampson and jackie, jackie samson and mark sheridan. i was sort of married to you, but not sort of married to you, but not sort of married to you, but not sort of in an odd way. thank you very much. my brilliant, great british voices. well, in the same, the bbc previously said after huw edwards pleaded guilty that if he had been charged

whilst he was still an employee , whilst he was still an employee, they would have sacked him. that's what they're saying , but that's what they're saying, but that's they still carried on paying that's they still carried on paying him. he gave him a pay rise . you're with me. i'm nana rise. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, former mp andrea jenkyns will be joining me to discuss all things politics in the interview next. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news hello! welcome to your gb news, weather update from the met office. some late evening sunny spells in the north. cloudier in the south before turning hot and humid sunday and more so into monday. so looking at the bigger picture then we've got this waving feature and this is responsible for the areas of cloud today. but higher pressure situated towards the south. so through the rest of today then that cloud should generally melt away , cloud should generally melt away, generally just staying along the southern coast of england. so

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>> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 5:00. this is a gb news. we're live on tv , online news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics

hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, former labour party adviser matthew laza, also political commentator lin mei. in a few moments time, we'll be speaking to dame andrea jenkyns, plus loads more still to come . my big loads more still to come. my big quiz. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sam francis . sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much and good evening to you. it is exactly 5:00, and the top story tonight is that anti—racism demonstrators have taken to the streets of london, countering almost now two weeks of anti—immigration protests and riots across england. thousands of campaigners have been seen carrying signs supporting refugees and opposing racism and islamophobia. authorities say they do hope the violence is subsiding, but thousands of

specialist officers remain on the streets this weekend. more than 740 people have now been arrested over the rioting, and that includes the wife of a northamptonshire conservative councillor . well, the family of councillor. well, the family of one of the girls killed in the southport stabbings that have triggered much of the unrest have revealed her older sister saw the attack and managed to escape. b.b. king's parents say the six year old was full of joy, the six year old was full of joy, light and love and they have also praised their older daughter jeanie's incredible strength and her courage . strength and her courage. meanwhile, in belfast, strength and her courage. meanwhile, in belfast , thousands meanwhile, in belfast, thousands of people have been taking part in another anti—racism protest there, after those southport stabbings sparked anti—immigration protests in recent days. police in northern ireland are promising a significant and visible policing operation and our reporter dougie beattie has been in belfast today for us for the second week in a row. >> belfast city centre is now closed down because of protests .

closed down because of protests. this one, though, is pro—immigration fronted up by the trade unions of northern ireland, gay pride and amnesty international. but more importantly, the political classes have joined in and many in those working class areas that are facing the majority. the biggest amount of undocumented immigration now feel that their political voice has gone. this parade will due to end in the next hour, but it remains to be seen what will happenin remains to be seen what will happen in the coming days. >> in other news, a 32 year old man has been charged over a shooting in east london in may, which left a nine year old girl seriously injured. she is still in hospital in a stable condition after that attack in a restaurant in dalston .javon restaurant in dalston. javon riley, from farnborough, appeared in court this morning accused of four counts of attempted murder and he's been remanded in custody and will appear at the old bailey next month . up to 500 people have

month. up to 500 people have attended the funeral service today of jay slater in lancashire. family and friends packed the chapel at accrington crematorium with others watching from outside. most were seen wearing blue in memory of the 19 year old, who fell to his death in a mountainous region of tenerife in june . concert goers tenerife in june. concert goers in cornwall have been left with broken bones after what's been described as a terrifying crowd surge at boardmasters music festival, which reportedly saw some of the speakers fall into the crowd. a number of people, including children, were caught including children, were caught in the crush, with some taken to hospital. at this stage, it's believed around seven have so far been discharged from hospital. however, devon and cornwall police have confirmed there were no serious injuries and it is understood that festival will continue . israel festival will continue. israel says it's targeted hamas militants operating out of a school that was sheltering displaced palestinians in central gaza . it disputes the central gaza. it disputes the gaza and health ministry's claim

that over 80 people were killed in that strike. however, the eu's foreign policy chief has condemned what he calls the massacres, arguing there's no justification . we've heard today justification. we've heard today that two chinese warships have passed through uk waters twice in just three weeks. the royal navy says a british frigate kept close watch as they travelled to and from russia, and they were also assisted by vessels from france and from belgium . an france and from belgium. an investigation has now been launched after a plane crashed in the state of sao paulo in brazil last night, killing all 61 people on board. the black box was found late last night with some of the flight data. there were 57 passengers and four crew on board. you can see here the dramatic scenes of that plane spiralling out of control as it fell through the air and crashed through trees eventually, and very sadly, landing in a large plume of smoke . here, a sixth banksy

smoke. here, a sixth banksy artwork has appeared in london. the latest in a series of animal themed images around the caphal themed images around the capital. the new painting, a silhouette of a cat stretching, is in cricklewood. if you're interested in going and having a look, a fresh image has sprung up overnight. every day this week , including outlines of a week, including outlines of a wolf, a goat, elephants, monkeys and pelicans. i'm sure i could paint something like that and team gb have won their first medal of the day at paris , medal of the day at paris, thanks to the diver noah williams. he secured bronze in the men's ten metre platform final, and there could also be some more british medals to come in the taekwondo and rebecca mcgowan in the contention for that medal in taekwondo tonight. earlier, erin mcneice missed out in the climbing sadly, while emil kyrees finished fourth ever so close to bronze in the men's marathon. those are the latest gb news headlines for now i'm sam francis. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign

up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you sam. welcome back. you're with me i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and digital radio. now here's what's coming up in this hour . this hour. >> that's me, that's me. i will. >> that's me, that's me. i will. >> that's me, that's me. i will. >> that was the dramatic moment our camera operator appeared to be assaulted during an anti—racism protest in westminster. we'll get more on that coming up. former mp andrea jenkins will be in the studio to talk all things politics in the interview. and then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking who gets your vote, trump or kamala? the race to the white house continues with some polls showing kamala harris in the lead. that's coming up in. as ever. don't forget to tell me what you think. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so

comments gbnews.com/yoursay. so king charles called for mutual respect and unity, and following the riots across the country, he spoke out for the first time since the unrest began. he also thanked the police for their efforts to restore peace, as well as the communities who came out to counter the violence. this all comes as the prime minister told forces up and down the country to remain on high alert going into the weekend. so no. joining me is retired scotland yard detective mike neville. mike, thank you very much for joining neville. mike, thank you very much forjoining me , your much for joining me, your thoughts then i want to ask you your thoughts on keir starmer, how well he's progressed in terms of keeping law and order and keeping our streets safe in the last sort of five weeks? >> well , i the last sort of five weeks? >> well, i think it's right that, thugs who attack the police and damaged property and attack people , whether they're attack people, whether they're white, black, asian or whatever , white, black, asian or whatever, those people are rightly and swiftly put into prison. >> it does sort of. it doesn't really amuse me, but it strikes me that every time i come on

these programmes and say, look, these programmes and say, look, the way to deal with criminals is to put them in prison. there'll be several left wing professors telling me that prison doesn't work, but suits as soon as, working class white people start to do things wrong. it seemingly that prisons do work, and i just think that whilst it's good in the short term to deal with rioters and put them away, the error that's been made here is in previous riots where it's used have been ethnic minorities been involved. there's been a great deal of understanding . there's been an understanding. there's been an inquiry afterwards to establish what the problems were. >> and why did this boil over with this, set of, disorder that we're just simply told that the people involved are right wing thugs. >> everybody there is a racist. of course you've got anti—racism marches going on, which implies that anybody on the other side is a racist, which i don't believe is true. and what the problem is here is that there's an enormous boil building up lord sewel, who's a very eminent, black member of the house of lords, of course, wrote a report saying that working

class, communities are being left behind. and of course they are. they're their opinions on immigration because they're the ones who have to send their kids to school where there's 20 different languages being spoke. they're being ignored. and i fear that if it's not addressed , fear that if it's not addressed, these sort of riots will occur again. you're putting a sticking plaster over a boil, and of course, it's the frontline police officers who have to take the rocks and bricks being thrown at them, and the politicians who are ignoring the problem. they can safely sit in the house, house of commons and do nothing about it. so that's the real problem. the long term issues, in my view now is the big issue here. >> but in terms of keir starmer, then do you think that what he's doneis then do you think that what he's done is good because he hasn't actually mentioned anything about how he's going to tackle the sort of the sort of burning ember, which is the problem with mass immigration, be it legal or illegal. >> well, i don't think he has dean >> well, i don't think he has dealt with it. i mean, you only have to look at the popularity that's been reported in the press. it's gone right down because he simply dismissed

people who had concerns as all of them being right wing thugs and you do get this issue of two tier policing, which we're told is nonsense and ridiculous. and anybody who says to me that two tier policing is ridiculous and i challenge them to do this, go to the notting hill carnival at the end of this of the end of this month, you'll see people openly smoking drugs. they'll dance with the female officers to the point of what's been called in the past sexual assault. there'll be gangs marauding , stabbings and all marauding, stabbings and all sorts. copy that behaviour. going to a millwall football match on a saturday and see what the police situation is . and it the police situation is. and it will be a completely different reaction to whether you were at the notting hill carnival. so the notting hill carnival. so the idea that the police, police different events, in certain ways is absolutely true in my view. we've seen it time and time again. and this is just exacerbated the whole situation. >> all right. mike neville, thank you very much. he's a retired scotland yard detective. really good to talk to you. well, joining me now is gb news national reporter, charlie peters. he's made his way away

from that, and he's now here in the studio . charlie, they're the studio. charlie, they're supposedly a peaceful protest. was it a peaceful protest? what was the energy at the atmosphere like there? >> well, the energy was quite aggressive outside reform uk's headquarters, it kicked off about 230. the stand up to racism protest and the language used was very much chanting against what they described as fascism, the far right and nazis, nazi scum off our streets. now walking around the protest before the speech started, i spoke to members of the turkish marxist—leninist communist party and also german communists who'd flown in specifically for this week of what they described as anti—fascist action. now, as you know, there have been many demonstrations across the country since some of the violent disorder we've seen at anti—migration protests that suddenly turned into riots from southport. also down into into aldershot , manchester, leeds. aldershot, manchester, leeds. it's been a big problem. and in plymouth, even on tuesday night, just gone . but the atmosphere just gone. but the atmosphere

today at this anti—reform march by stand up to racism, it was mostly peaceful at the beginning. people were sat around but as the speeches started and as the rhetoric kind of ramped up, yeah, i think some people would have looked on in concern at hearing elected politicians being described as nazis. now, many people there said that nigel farage was behind some of the violence that we've seen . now, mr farage has we've seen. now, mr farage has rejected that claim , and reform rejected that claim, and reform spokesperson told gb news today that that address that they were protesting at is just a postal address. they can't give away the actual address of their real headquarters because they're afraid of, in their terms, far less thuggery and extremist. that's what they told us earlier today. that's what they told us earlier today . but marching away from today. but marching away from the reform uk location, they then walked down victoria street and past westminster parliament square towards downing street. and you came to us at that point about an hour ago, we were broadcasting live through that march as they were again making those chants about nazis and

fascists off our streets, just as we finished our live hit with you. and perhaps thinking that we weren't live on air, that they could speak to us. finally, a group that was around us, maybe about 7 or 8 people, suddenly started chanting gb news off our streets, switching from nazi scum and fascists to gb news. perhaps there's a link there that should be explored among these people. and in that process, our excellent cameraman filming that, and while they were doing so, suddenly one man went for our cameraman. we can show you a clip of that. >> now let's take a look . that's >> now let's take a look. that's me. that's that's me , i will me. that's that's me, i will he's touching me . he's touching me. >> film it. steven film it. >> film it. steven film it. >> max , my. >> max, my. >> max, my. >> my job is your safety. no, no, no . no, no. >> you're good. thank you. >> you're good. thank you. >> is that your bag? yes >> is that your bag? yes >> now, there have been a lot of conversations, haven't there, about two tier policing, about the police using different

powers and different approaches to different protests. earlier this week, i had the great joy of being in yardley and meeting with people who'd experienced the mob descend on their pub on tuesday night, and they told me, point blank, two tier policing was alive and well in birmingham because the police failed to monitor that masked mob. some of them were seen brandishing weapons earlier on the march, descending on the mob, saying that the edl were in there and attacking them inside, trying to break into the pub they barricaded their way in. i have to say, in london, from what i've seen so far of these demonstrations , they have done demonstrations, they have done a firm and serious job dealing with all sorts of different protests. at another incident in walthamstow earlier this week. they have. they did act swiftly to arrest a man, but here, unfortunately, we had to face this, this assault from a protester. but thankfully the met were there and they acted very swiftly. >> well, they acted swiftly. i wonder if they're going to police some of the language as well. that's been you know, rallied about in those protests as well. charlie peters, thank you very much. brilliant reporting. you've had a lot of

love on gbnews.com/yoursay people saying how brilliant you are. nothing for me. >> best feeling in the world. >> best feeling in the world. >> we're very grateful for. >> we're very grateful for. >> we're very grateful for. >> we are very grateful for to them. thank you very much. charlie peters. he was outside the reform uk's headquarters or the reform uk's headquarters or the postal address where the anti—racist march was taking place, right 15 minutes after 5:00. stay tuned. up next it's time for the interview. difficult conversations. i'll be joined by former andrew jenkins. i'll talk all things politics. do not go anywhere

good afternoon. it's just coming up to 18 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's now time for the interview. i'm struggling with the name. i want to call it difficult conversations, but the interview will do that, shall we? but it's with former conservative minister dame andrea jenkyns. now. she was elected in 2015. she unseated the then shadow

chancellor, ed balls , and went chancellor, ed balls, and went on to serve in the cabinet as an education minister under boris johnson, who knighted her and gave her a damehood in his resignation honours. so in last month's election she was also unseated by labour in her west yorkshire constituency. but i'm delighted to say she joins me now. so dame andrea , it's ended now. so dame andrea, it's ended this wonderful run that you had, you had a very good constituency. i think you did a good job. >> thank you. nana. >> thank you. nana. >> yeah, but how are you now . >> yeah, but how are you now. because obviously you're not doing the. >> no, i'm fine to be honest with you. i mean, within 24 hours of losing my seat, i'd updated my resume because i'm one of these. >> whatever god puts in your plan, you meant to deal with, in all honesty. >> yeah. so never look back. i always think that. >> so what are your thoughts now? so are you. are you still in the conservative party? are you still going to try? >> and i am at the moment. you are at the moment. i mean , i are at the moment. i mean, i think it all depends. nana if we pick the right leader, right. if we see a lurch to the left, of the party, then i think it's

possibly game over. >> unfortunately, because tom tugendhat, he's chucked his hat in the ring . in the ring. >> i know he was nice guy, but. but not necessarily my politics. >> yeah, and you've got robert jenrick. yes, i think he's. >> yeah, i used to be robert's pps actually. yeah. it is very bright. good guy. i mean i'm supporting pretty pretty. yeah. she's amazing. and what i like about pretty nana is she's a conviction politician. you know , conviction politician. you know, lots of people say this rhetoric out there that they're going to do this, but look at their voting records. it's completely different . i mean, if you look different. i mean, if you look pretty fellow spartan as well , pretty fellow spartan as well, she voted against sunaks, sell—out windsor framework. she's voted against net zero stuff and she's decent woman and a true thatcherite conservative and a lot of the conservative party were sort of talking as though they need to move more to the centre, and they were already in the centre, which is why they lost. >> they don't seem to see that. i'm amazed at suella braverman isn't on on their list. >> no, but i think if you look at the numbers, actually it's

about numbers at the next stage, isn't it? it's mainly the left of the party, the one nation group who's left. they've got the majority . so it's going to the majority. so it's going to be a tough fight to get through to that next round. >> because whilst we're all deaung >> because whilst we're all dealing with keir starmer, who has really taken taken the reins and you know, he's getting rid of all sorts of things and making it difficult, i think in my view, for people to actually protest legitimately about immigration. >> absolutely. and online as well online and silencing free speech, isn't it ? speech, isn't it? >> yeah. so surely there's a role for the conservative party? i know they're busy internally combusting again or internally digesting their failure. yeah but surely there's a role for them now where is rishi sunak? i mean, i mean, i know well is in california at the moment, isn't he . he. >> yes. >> yes. >> pictured at a surprise restaurant . a nice move. restaurant. a nice move. >> i mean, i hope i mean the, the oldest party, i think the members are choose somebody like pretty, but it's getting through this next stage. i just really

hope that the mps wake up and smell the coffee of what the general public want, >> but right now , even though >> but right now, even though they're again looking internally, we want them to be doing something, saying something about what's going on. no nobody thinks the conservative party seems remotely interested in what's happening. >> i mean, i've been speaking out as a former mp, but yeah, it's they're not they're just not doing anything. no, i think the issue is, though, i mean, we've seen with a lot of the national newspapers the rhetoric , national newspapers the rhetoric, what's out there, it all seems to be very . much the same. so to be very. much the same. so i think there's a fear of speaking out. actually, i mean, look, what happened in farage is outside farage's office today. it's ridiculous. >> the post office. yeah. and they were they were all blamed. a lot of them were blaming farage and shouting fascists and all sorts of things. >> well, he was been trending on twitter for a week, hasn't he? farage riots. i mean, that is crazy , but how is that allowed crazy, but how is that allowed if sir keir starmer is clamping down on misinformation, this should be one of the first things it should be. i mean, what i've pointed out publicly only in the last week, how can the health secretary have previously called for, actually

a dm, a daily mail former journalist ? yeah, exactly. and journalist? yeah, exactly. and a dutch politician to be thrown under a train. i mean , that's under a train. i mean, that's the thing i really dislike about the thing i really dislike about the left is the hypocrisy now. >> well, he also wrote calling, those who voted for suzanne hall, white supremacists and that sort of thing. and that was recently, and he didn't seem to be any apology within his delivery afterwards. he sort of thought it was fair game. >> i think it's going to get worse as well, don't you, nana under this government, unfortunately. >> well, we'll see. i mean , i'd >> well, we'll see. i mean, i'd like the conservative party to say something. i know they're at the moment they seem to be paralysed by their own internal troubles, but the some of them are i mean, they were elected, some of them were elected and still out there. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> now, listen, earlier we were talking about fibromyalgia, and i know that you are somebody who has to deal with or you have experience with it. >> for over 20 years, actually. and i also have adhd. that's my why i tend to sort of, blurt things out sometimes. do you

that it's a good excuse. anyway isn't it? yeah, and, and i also have trigeminal neuralgia, which is neuralgia pain. so i've lived with pain every day for over 20 years, actually . and but i'm one years, actually. and but i'm one of these. i don't take medication. i literally have got a strong mind and i just block it out. but it's when you get home on a night and you laid in bed and you're on your own and you realise what pain you're in, it's i'm mentally block it out, but it's exhaustion as well because you just do not sleep well. >> how do you what do you do to sort of mentally block out the pain, >> just keep busy. really? that's right. >> yeah. take the focus off it . >> yeah. take the focus off it. focus on something else, and suddenly you forget about it . suddenly you forget about it. absolutely. so it's true. the mind is very clever. >> the mind is an amazing thing. yeah, absolutely. >> so now, looking at the state of british politics, what do you think is the future for the conservative party? because i'm looking at them and i'm not sure they're relevant anymore. >> no, i mean, as i said , nana >> no, i mean, as i said, nana i'm deciding about my future in the party, depending on the leadership and whether i go into

politics again or not. that's what i'm sort of deciding. i mean, i'll always be fighting on the sidelines, but it's quite nice to have this time out as well for reflection. but i will they be relevant ? they've took they be relevant? they've took a major knock, haven't they ? and, major knock, haven't they? and, i mean, i was finding on the doorstep actually during the election , people were saying election, people were saying that they just don't want to go out and vote. so it's that apathy. and this is why we've got the labour supermajority, isn't it? it was the apathy we form split the vote as well, and people stayed at home. so are they irrelevant? yes, they are relevant. but not if they stay silent on these major issues for too long. they've got to really start talking out , and standing start talking out, and standing up for the british public because we need them now. >> we need them to be speaking now. they may still be looking for a leader, but nobody has said there's literally no voice apart from reform. exactly making any noise about the rules that have been put in place the

way things have gone. keir starmer has thrown out the rwanda plan. but yet by doing that. but then he's gone really tough on people in protest, which shows that if you just imprison a few people, it can affect the many . and his affect the many. and his argument was that rwanda wouldn't work. there's not enough. it's a gimmick. there's not enough places. there's only 200 people would go, but again, the same principle would apply, surely. and it was working . surely. and it was working. >> absolutely. and also it's the aspect that they're going to release all these prisoners because there's no spaces. so why are they locking people up for what they've put on social media? this is to me is about control and trying to silence freedom of speech . i think that freedom of speech. i think that is. and so the conservatives really have got to start speaking up because the public needit. need it. >> we do need them. and the liberal democrats, i haven't heard a word from them either. they're quite quiet. >> parliament is very homogenised at the moment. it's so many same voices , isn't it? so many same voices, isn't it? and i think that is the issue. >> this is this is a real problem. now i want to talk to you about the olympics, and i

want to get your thoughts on eamonn khalife. now this is the, the intersex person who identifies as female, but apparently, as we know, has x, y chromosomes, which makes eamonn a male biologically. and there were two biological males fighting against each other in the women's boxing, both of the x, y chromosomes. >> i think it's bonkers. nana. to be honest, i mean, i've got no problem. you know, if you had a specific category or a special olympics for those who, you know, are trans, i've got no problem. but we should not have. i mean, it was it was awful seeing that that female knocked out, wasn't it . and i just out, wasn't it. and i just i just think it should not be allowed . but again, under allowed. but again, under a labour government, i just think it's going to get worse. >> well they were talking about making it easier for people to identify as a different gender. >> and i really worry. i mean, i know you're a mum nana as well. we've got a child the same age , we've got a child the same age, haven't we, our worry what they're going to get taught in schools as well because that is

a concern. >> critical race theory as well. we'll be back on the agenda and all those other things. but then, you know, the labour party , then, you know, the labour party, are you not slightly, though, impressed with the fact that keir starmer has managed to silence things and take control? i mean, you know , whether you i mean, you know, whether you agree with his politics or not, he has in some respects taken control, even if you don't agree with what he's doing and how he's done it. >> no, i mean is took control, but that's for the moment. things have still be bubbling, won't they? there's a lot of people unhappy and i really don't like him. and blaming it on one group of people, you know, we've seen that society's been unhappy for a long time and illegal migration is and there's no excuse. i mean , i said even no excuse. i mean, i said even dunng no excuse. i mean, i said even during the blm protests where the blm protests, they pulled down a statue in leeds of queen victoria. during the just stop oil protests. anything what causes criminal damage? there should be locked up. so i think that's great, but it's got to be

a fair system where whatever your cause, whether you're left wing or right wing, you're equal under the rule of law. >> i would absolutely agree with that as well. and most people would. so finally , andrew, where would. so finally, andrew, where are we going to see you next? and what have you got planned? could you say you're going off on holiday somewhere? is there something you're doing? you're going to write a book. are you going to write a book. are you going to write a book. are you going to do anything, >> what am i going to do? well, i've got my fingers in a few pies. so you don't like to reveal too much to you, i mean, book wise, maybe. i've seen a lot the last decade from even being in the whips office, so i'm thinking about it, i mean, also , i'm. i want to go back also, i'm. i want to go back into business again because i've sort of got director level board experience. and so, yeah, i've got my fingers in a few pies, but but i'll keep always coming forward and speaking out. nana. even though i'm not an mp anymore. >> and your thoughts of your time as an mp? >> how what a journey. i mean, right from the moment where i called it my get balls out campaign, trying to oust ed

balls. i mean , i'm not as good a balls. i mean, i'm not as good a dancer as him. nana i have to say so. and i would be like ann widdecombe and if i'd have gone on strictly, i wouldn't be anything like ed, but no, i mean, it's been an amazing if you think through the brexit years, been i'm proud to have been one of the spartans to have stood up for brexit, calling for theresa may to resign . and i've theresa may to resign. and i've made some really good friends. and boris and pretty are two of them. and so i don't regret a moment. >> they mentioned jenkins. thank you very much for joining me. really good to talk to you. thank you . brilliant. that was thank you. brilliant. that was dame andrea jenkins. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio, just coming up to 31 minutes after 5:00 on the way. the great british debate this hour. i'm asking who gets your vote? trump or kamala? the race for the white house continues, with some polls showing kamala harris is in the lead. that's up on next. but first, let's get your latest news with sam francis .

news with sam francis. >> very good evening to you. it's just after 5:30. the top story from the newsroom tonight. anti—racism demonstrators have anti —racism demonstrators have taken anti—racism demonstrators have taken to the streets of london, countering now almost two weeks of anti—immigration protests and riots across england. thousands of campaigners were seen carrying signs supporting refugees and opposing racism and islamophobia . speakers at the islamophobia. speakers at the rally earlier condemned elon musk, the billionaire owner of x, and accused reform uk's nigel farage of spreading racism. it follows widespread unrest sparked by false claims linked to the knife attack in southport over a week ago . authorities over a week ago. authorities hope the violence is subsiding but thousands of specialist officers are still out on the streets . so far, more than 740 streets. so far, more than 740 people have been arrested over the rioting, including the wife of a northamptonshire conservative councillor . well, conservative councillor. well, it's been revealed the older sister of one of the southport stabbing victims witnessed the attack but managed to escape .

attack but managed to escape. lauren and ben king say their six year old daughter, bebe king, one of the three girls killed at a dance class, was sweet and kind and spirited. they've also paid tribute to the strength and the courage of her older sibling . up to 500 people older sibling. up to 500 people have attended the funeral service of jay slater in lancashire today. family and friends packed the chapel at accrington crematorium with others watching outside. most wore blue in memory of the 19 year old who fell to his death in a mountainous region of tenerife in june. israel says it has targeted hamas militants operating out of a school sheltering displaced palestinians in gaza. it disputes though the gaza and health ministries claim that over 80 people were killed in that strike. two chinese warships have passed through uk waters twice in just three weeks. the royal navy says they were watched closely by a british frigate as they travelled to and from russia .

travelled to and from russia. and if you haven't heard already, well, where have you been? great britain's noah williams has won bronze in the men's ten metre platform diving at the paris olympics. he only squeezed through qualifying in 12th but saved his best dives for that final, adding now to his silver that he collected alongside tom daley in the synchro event. earlier in the games, gold again went to china, giving them a clean sweep of diving medals. those are giving them a clean sweep of diving medals . those are the diving medals. those are the latest gb news headlines for now i'm sam francis. your next update from the newsroom at six. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward alerts

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been? this is the last bits of the show. 21 minutes to go. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , nana akua. we're live on tv, onune nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate this year. and i'm asking who gets your vote? trump or kamala? the battle for the white house continues. the former president, donald trump arrived to address the republican masses at a rally in montana, and the republican nominee arrived as bozeman, montana , after his plane was montana, after his plane was reportedly diverted to a different airport due to a mechanical issue. but despite his delay, donald trump still had time to criticise kamala harris . harris. >> once again, kamala is grossly incompetent and in my opinion, has a very low iq, but we'll find out about her iq during the debate . okay, let's find out debate. okay, let's find out about her right. >> so the great british debate sza i'm asking who gets your vote, trump or kamala? well, joining me now , former labour joining me now, former labour adviser, matthew laza and political commentator lynne may matthew laza. >> well, it's not going to be a surprise. harris, all the way ,

surprise. harris, all the way, harris was all the way and i think it's great that actually there's now a proper contest because clearly, biden had come to the end of a distinguished career. and it's right he's not the candidate. and now it's a real fight . there were some new real fight. there were some new york times polls just out this afternoon that show her four points ahead in three key states. that's within the margin of error. so it's nobody should take anything for granted. but it is a proper contest. now if she ever does is laugh. it's all he ever does is say incredibly rude things. >> that's not all he does. he's already been president once before. >> kamala harris i'm going to say trump by a long shot, i think kamala harris, to be honest with you, has embarrassed me quite a lot for the simple fact that i don't know why this seems to be a major thing in america. but you know what? on earth was she thinking bringing a rapper who just wants to shake her bum all the time? as a representative of why we should vote for her? >> and i think that was bratz, wasn't it? >> or no, it was, megan the

stallion. >> no. that's it. megan thee stallion and all these sorts of, you know, another time. >> oh, i've got timberland boots on. oh, i can cook a mean chicken. it's like when it comes to ethnic minorities, it's insulting, you know, and not just that i can't really name any of her rock solid policies other than, you know, i'm a black woman. i'm this i'm that very, like, driven by race, dnven very, like, driven by race, driven by identity politics. when i say trump, we need to remember he brought industry back into america. 7 million jobs, record unemployment . and jobs, record unemployment. and he's he's taken the chance to actually go and sit with many, ethnic minority groups where, you know, biden didn't even do that. >> and that's to kamala. she's been very silent behind her. biden, though, matthew . biden, though, matthew. >> well, in terms of has she beenin >> well, in terms of has she been in terms of whether he should restand or not? well, i mean, you're somebody's deputy. you can't you can't publicly call for them to go because that's just plain rude things . that's just plain rude things. >> or, you know, she's not known for anything. i mean, i don't, don't know anything about her. >> we haven't seen her. >> we haven't seen her. >> well, i think i think she had a difficult start to her time as

vice president, but i think she has grown into the role. and look, you know what? she said? nothing. well, no, i don't, i don't, i don't she, i mean, the problem you've got in american politics is because trump is so because trump just is so toxic, and fills the space. so much are clearly a lot of what you're doing is strategically messaging against trump. but i think what she's actually done and that was a lot of what biden was doing. biden was saying he's a threat to democracy, etc. and what they've done is, is brilliantly her and the team around her, which is why they went for walks , which is why they went for walks, as the vp is to say that those guys are weird. we are mainstream and we're in touch with mainstream american values. >> how can you trust a party who have tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes? i mean, look, i could see in plain sight that the man was obviously going senile or there's something going on. why on earth would they wheel him out and try and pretend that he was capable? when we could all see he wasn't? they're not genuine, are they? >> no. i think i mean, look, i don't think he's he's seen out. he clearly has moments.

something wrong? there's something wrong. which is why it's right that he's not restanding. i think he's capable of doing the job. he's actually giving some very coherent interviews, and i'm worried for all our safety. >> if trump wins, why is she taking over? >> because he's because he's now too old to do it. and that's and of course age and trump is trump. there have been lots of questions about trump. and i would love to see trump and her take an iq test, because i think we know who'd win and it wouldn't be trump. oh, i don't know about that. >> it's not about age, though, is it? >> i just think you know, when i ask people, what is it about kamala harris that you actually like, not that you hate trump? what is it about kamala harris you actually like, prior to biden stepping aside, can you give me even three interesting points that she came out with flooring. >> she came out with the best line ever in her first speech, which was, you know, she's got experience . she's in her first experience. she's in her first speech as the nominee. can i speak, which is the which is the, which is that she has experience on the front line of being a prosecutor going after criminals, going after a

convicted felons and convicting felons, and of course, her opponent is a convicted felon. >> so just like, well, hang on a minute, that's a bit. i mean, she's got a record. no, hold on a minute . he is a she's got a record. no, hold on a minute. he is a convicted felon under very shaky ground where other other other presidents would have actually got away with it. and if they were to apply that same logic to people like hillary clinton and not at all, and joe biden, joe biden would also, probably not at all. >> we saw joe biden not kicking up a fuss when his son has been felon under the rules that they've only seen her raise her head. >> now she's been silent, she's been non—existent. apart from that one phone call. biden, we've done it. we've done it since then , years ago. since then, years ago. >> we don't see as much of them here. she's she's done a good job as vice president and she's going to win. >> she hasn't done a good job. >> she hasn't done a good job. >> she's going to make sure the world is protected from trump. and that we see nato, we see nato, we see we see commitment to nato maintain. we see the transatlantic alliance, which is the basis of our security in britain, maintain that he did not want to commit to nato. >> he said, no, no, no. what he said was that they should pay their fair share. otherwise if something doesn't, if they

don't, then they're not going to. >> he's also said he's also said that he's against that made everybody pay. he's he's he's said various things. that is one of them. and that's why now 20 nato countries are going to be paying nato countries are going to be paying the 2% of trump. >> most of what he didn't say. >> most of what he didn't say. >> i think more because of putin invasion of ukraine, to be honest, what trump said . honest, what trump said. >> god, they've been quiet. >> god, they've been quiet. >> oh, we thought you were. we thought we were waiting for you. we i thought we're so used to being told to be quiet. >> we thought we were doing it ourselves, was pick up my cup of tea. >> i know it's interesting that body language does it. >> it's the gb news and that was the end of it. well, listen, stay tuned. coming up, my quick mind quiz, i test the panel on some of the stories that caught my eye this week, but next, loads more still to the olympics and all that

good afternoon . welcome. this is good afternoon. welcome. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on

digital radio. it's time now for my quick fire quiz. and it's an olympic special. so this is the part of the show where i test the panel, an eye on some of the other stories that are hitting the headlines right now. so joining me, former labour party adviser matthew laza your buzzer, please. matthew and also political commentator lin mei your buzzer please. lovely. right good. please play along at home. question one name the 19 year old who won gold for great britain in sports at climbing. is it a peter williams? b tobi roberts or c andrew si king matthew laza b tobi roberts lin mei pressure buzzer don't answer andrew stevens , andrew stevens andrew stevens, andrew stevens let's see if they're both totally wrong . the answer is totally wrong. the answer is tobi roberts b well done. how did you know that? >> i actually did know that the only one you did possibly there was tobi roberts. >> there he is beau biden medallist. well done toby. right question two. closest answer wins. team gb have bagged 14

gold medals so far. so how many silvers have we won? matthew laza 1818 lynn. may 20th. i'm press the buzzer. i can only take your previous point though. all right, let's see. i don't know whether we'll let her have that if she's right, it's 20. oh my god, she can have it. she can have it. it's one all. all right . have it. it's one all. all right. this is an open question. please play this is an open question. please play along at home. how are you doing? okay. so many celebrities have been spotted at the paris olympics this year. but which celebrity was recently spotted wearing an equestrian kit ? lin wearing an equestrian kit? lin mei, snoop dog david beckham . mei, snoop dog david beckham. let's see. who was it? it was in fact, snoop. >> hey , hey, did you did you >> hey, hey, did you did you actually see that? >> i did , yeah, he was in the >> i did, yeah, he was in the audience. it was hilarious. >> yeah, he was there. >> yeah, he was there. >> what was he watching? was it gymnastics or something? >> i'm not sure, but he was with someone, i think a famous, jockey. and she was feeding him, tea and biscuits, and he was having a whale of a time and

everyone. >> crikey. yeah. >> crikey. yeah. >> snoop dogg, they weren't concentrating on the action, were they? they were the different sort of action. >> right? question four true or false ? team gb won 64 medals at false? team gb won 64 medals at the tokyo 2020. >> false. oh, sorry. >> false. oh, sorry. >> matthew laza true . she said >> matthew laza true. she said it's false. all right, let's see. is it true or false? it was 5050. it's true. yes, it is true. in fact, they won 64 medals, including 22 golds to finish fourth in the standings. it's also school so far. did you get it? he's two one. yeah it's two one. it's 21! knew matthew i pretend i didn't know because i knew matthew would be there. i see one right, question five. final question. where are team gb currently sitting on the medal table, i have started to finish. is it a second, b fourth or c sixth? matthew laza sixth c? lie—in mate. yeah. >> i'm going to go with the same. >> no, don't do the same just in

case he's wrong okay. four did you say fourth is b? she says b. yeah. we knew it was sixth. oh it is in fact six. yes. we were behind china, the usa, australia japan and france. so very interestingly so. so today we've been talking on today's show. we've been asking you, do you have buyer's remorse or sir keir starmer competes in his first month. and according to our twitter poll, 71% of you say yes, 29% of people say no. >> i wonder how many of that 71% they did actually vote for keir starmer, so they might not be having buyer's remorse on their for themselves for saying that people who did vote labour should have done. >> yeah, but we had a large portion of people that said that they would vote yes when we compared. >> this is the thing that frustrated me . many people say, frustrated me. many people say, oh, do you know, he's not really mandated to like, lead the country? hardly anyone turned out well. why not? you had the opportunity to take part and go out and vote, and many just didn't. >> and what do you make of that on private schools? we never quite finished that discussion. >> yeah. oh, i was hoping so. >> yeah. oh, i was hoping so. >> let's get back to . a very

>> let's get back to. a very briefly matthew laza. it is a failing false economy policy that will end up costing more money. >> now i think ultimately it will save money. i'm slightly confused why it's being done halfway through the school year, which makes the issue of people if they need to transfer places into the state sector more complicated than it perhaps needs be. so don't needs to be. so i don't understand why it's not being done at the beginning of the beginning. at the beginning of the school year. think it's the school year. i think it's absolutely sensible that one thing they have done, though, is stop people who trying stop people who are trying to get like ten years get in and pay like ten years worth of fees for little johnny, who's just started on day one, so you can't now pay in advance. it's going to apply to any future year's fees. >> just want to quickly ask, >> i just want to quickly ask, okay? when labour was asked multiple times, okay, how are they going to create these extra spaces? one answered. do you spaces? no one answered. do you have the there are, there are. >> it depends where you are in the country. there are actually some spare places in the secondary system at the moment. depends on the country. and frankly, all of the people, because it's not going to be all of the people. it's going to be a very small percentage, actually. >> there's a report that says that a lot of the secondary schools and the schools are full, so they're saying they're full. they haven't got space for these pupils that are coming out of the independent. >> it varies across country, >> it varies across the country, but area to area. >> but this is a counter

problem. so what are there any word from the labour camp as to how that will be. well i mean, you know, the money, the money that's being raised will help fund it. >> so i mean, a bizarrely, those people . oh well because, people. on well because, because, because the commitment to spend the money from vat on private school fees is to go and create additional teachers and additional capacity in the state sector, where 90% plus of britain's kids are aware that the money that they are supposedly expecting to recoup 1.7 billion is slowly coming down as all these people leave the. well, we'll see how many people leave in the end, but it will still be over a billion. >> they haven't got space in the private schools. >> it still will be over billion. >> yeah. and i think as it's happening very quickly, i don't think labour are going to be able to create these schools train up enough teachers, build additional parts of those schools in time, and we're going to see that. >> we are going to see i would be surprised if, as many people leave the private sector as a saying , well, at the moment saying, well, at the moment we're seeing a trickle. people are saying they're going to let's see how much, because the private schools need to make economies just like state schools did. you know, that's not really the answer, though. >> the aim of the policy was to

raise money. and if it doesn't do that, then why do it? >> it will do that because even the worst case scenario says about 10% of people are going to transfer 1.7 billion, which is a drop in the ocean. >> the school it's not a drop in the ocean for the budget for schools is 116 billion, right? yeah. 1.7 billion. they're raising from that. that's pathetic. >> it's not pathetic when it's going to create thousands of extra teacher places in the state sector. a lot of teachers are leaving the profession because they aren't, because schools can't afford to employ them, because their schools budgets have been hollowed out under the tories 6500 teachers over the parliament, which is 0.3 of a teacher for each of the schools . well, they'll be schools. well, they'll be targeted in the schools they need the most. nana they're not going to go to the schools which have got scared bare capacity. they are going to go to the schools where class sizes are too big. so the class sizes are under 30. in every state. schools like, let's come back and see how few people have actually left their private school. and how has a lot of people crying wolf. >> i think the problem with this policy is that it's going to affect the lives of young people who don't deserve it, and especially in the middle of a term in the school year, it's madness. so our twitter poll ,

madness. so our twitter poll, anyway, earlier in the show, i asked you whether you're getting buyer's remorse. according to the twitter poll, 71% of you say yes, 29% of you say no. thank you so much to my panel. former labour adviser matthew lazar. thank you. and also political commentator lynn mei, and thank you to you, dame andrea jenkyns and all of you out there. up next, we have the saturday five next, we have the saturday five next minute. >> it is . >> it is. >> it is. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news hello. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. some late evening sunny spells in the north. cloudier in the south before turning hot and humid sunday and more so into monday. so looking at the bigger picture then we've got this waving feature and this is responsible for the areas of cloud today. but higher pressure situated towards the south. so through the rest of today then that cloud should generally melt away , cloud should generally melt away, generally just staying along the

southern coast of england. so murky here, elsewhere, clearer skies developing. any showers across scotland generally fading as we go through the night. so underneath the clear skies could turn quite chilly for some of us in rural spots. but underneath this cloud are humid, uncomfortable night with some muggy conditions here. so to start monday morning then like i said, a lot of cloud around , said, a lot of cloud around, especially across parts of devon and cornwall and along english coast. some low cloud here elsewhere, some sunny spells perhaps turning a bit hazy with the sunshine across northern ireland and parts of northern england as well, and across scotland. sunny spells mixed with just a few showers still coming in from the west, so through the rest of sunday, hopefully most of this cloud should start lifting and breaking in that low cloud retreating back towards coastal areas elsewhere , many places areas elsewhere, many places seeing plenty of sunshine , seeing plenty of sunshine, showers fading across parts of scotland as well . and for many scotland as well. and for many of us it is going to be a warm,

if not very warm and humid day. highs in the south—east up to 27, possibly even 29 degrees. so then as we go into sunday afternoon and evening time that cloud generally melting away, plenty of clear skies on offer. but notice low pressure out towards the west and that could bnng towards the west and that could bring a focus for some quite heavy, thundery showers on monday. going to be feeling very hot as well. highs of up to 32 on monday, but by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb

and benjamin butterworth. tonight on the show does katie price highlight the hypocrisy of celebrity starmer's orwellian nightmare begins? britain has betrayed its working class boys. >> is elon musk now the official opposition to the labour government and britain's so rude sandwich sellers need spycams. >> it's 6 pm. and this is the saturday five. welcome to the start of day five with me, darren grimes. i'm back in the hot seat after a little break, and i couldn't be happier to be reunited with my favourite sparring partner, mr benjamin butterworth. now, benjamin's our resident environmentalist. he's so committed, in fact, that he travelled all the way to iraq by carbon neutral canoe . or at carbon neutral canoe. or at least i hope he did, because, well, he wouldn't want him

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