has been accused of broadcaster has been accused of airing a sympathetic portrait of nottingham triple killer valdo calocane. we'll speak to the mother of barnaby webber, one of the victims and a 32 year old romanian citizen, ewan pentarou, of no fixed address, has been charged with stabbing a girl eight times in leicester square. >> we're outside westminster magistrates court . magistrates court. >> now 5000 crossings since labour came to power. it's a problem. it's a problem for the prime minister now. he spoke tough, didn't he.7 in prime minister now. he spoke tough, didn't he? in the run up tough, didn't he? in the run up to the election, he said he'll be able to smash the gangs. the home secretary will be able to do the same. we don't need rwanda as a deterrent. won't work anyway. but what exactly is the plan now? what exactly is the plan now? what exactly is the plan? >> well, we've heard that

there's this new taskforce that's been set up and good. i mean, as many task forces as you can shake a stick at, i'm sure i'm sure they'll do something on the margins, but i think it's disingenuous for any politician to claim that the last government wasn't trying to smash the gangs. we reported on many gangs smashing visits, people arrested, boats seized. i mean, a depots in turkey that were found by british intelligence, all of the rest of it that was going on. but that was only half of the picture. you need a deterrent as well, was the argument of the last government. this government says you can do it all on that side of the ledger. but 5000 crossings in just a few weeks starts to make me think that perhaps something else needs to be done and we'll never know if the rwanda plan would have worked, because it never actually happened, did it? >> would it have acted as a deterrent? it really depends on who you speak to. some experts say absolutely not. just a gimmick. others say actually, it's the sort of thing that more and more european countries are

actually going to try . actually going to try. >> yeah, i mean, i think probably there's some truth somewhere in the middle here. i mean, if rwanda really only did send 200 people off there, then, then probably not the biggest deterrent in the world. but if you were able to send what rishi sunak used to call a steady drumbeat of, of flights continually with hundreds and thousands of people going, well, then you can start to see how it becomes more of a deterrent. >> well, we're going to be speaking to mark white, who is in dover, i believe, to tell us exactly what is happening. we'll have live pictures, of course, of the channel to bring you. but please do get in touch . please do get in touch. gbnews.com/yoursay what do you make of number ten's plan? do you know what it is? let us know gbnews.com/yoursay. but let's get the headlines with sofia first. >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> emily. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone 12:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the families of the victims of the nottingham

stabbing attacks say those responsible for failings in valdo calocane care have blood on their hands. that's after a new review found an nhs trust played down kalakani's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details , including omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis . his symptoms of psychosis. calocane, who has paranoid schizophrenia, fatally stabbed 19 year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley—kumar before killing 65 year old caretaker ian coates in june 2023. a man has been charged after an 11 year old girl was stabbed in leicester square, the met police have confirmed . 32 met police have confirmed. 32 year old john pinnock , of no year old john pinnock, of no fixed address, had been charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article . possession of a bladed article. it was initially thought that the girl's mother had also been hurt. however, it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter's injuries had been mistaken for injuries of her own . mistaken for injuries of her own. in other news, nearly 5000 small boat migrants have crossed the

channel since labour came to power. that's as the former head of border force tony smith, told gb news that sir keir starmer's plans to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve . very difficult to achieve. >> expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs if you like, without some form of international collaboration, where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice and to prevent people and goods crossing borders, etc, rather than the uk being able to do this on their own . do this on their own. >> tory leadership hopeful tom tugendhat will call for a national conversation about the root causes of the recent riots dunng root causes of the recent riots during a speech later today, the former security minister will argue that britain's social fabnc argue that britain's social fabric has deteriorated and criticised a culture of denial . criticised a culture of denial. mr tugendhat is expected to accuse the prime minister of a failure of leadership, and urge the police to use uncompromising force in dealing with violent

disorder in the us. donald trump has called joe biden's decision to quit the presidential race a coup. during a talk with tech billionaire elon musk. the interview finally got underway on x with more than 1.3 million people tuning in after a delay, which musk blamed on a cyber attack . trump confirmed he will attack. trump confirmed he will return to butler in pennsylvania in october after surviving an assassination attempt there. the us presidential candidate also criticised the eu and his democratic opponent, kamala harris . harris. >> i can tell you this we cannot have a democrat. we cannot have her. she's incompetent. she's as bad as biden in a different yeah, he hasn't done an interview since this whole, scam started. and say what? you want. this was a coup. this was a coup of a president of the united states. he didn't want to leave. and they said, we can do it the nice way, or we can do it the hard way. >> ukrainian president volodymyr

zelenskyy has told russian leader vladimir putin that the war is coming home in his most direct challenge to putin. yet that's a week after ukraine first stormed the kursk region of russia in what is the largest counterattack on putin's territory since the war began, ukraine's top commander has said. kyivs forces now control 1000km2 of russian territory . meanwhile, of russian territory. meanwhile, all of ukraine is under air raid alert amid russian drone attacks and two ballistic missiles . an and two ballistic missiles. an inquest into the death of former england cricketer graham thorpe has opened today , after his wife has opened today, after his wife revealed the sportsman tragically took his own life, the inquest heard. graham thorpe died after being struck by a train at a railway station in surrey. tributes flooded in for the late cricketer after his death on august the 5th. his family have since revealed he had been suffering from depression and anxiety . the uk depression and anxiety. the uk unemployment rate has

surprisingly fallen, according to official figures . data from to official figures. data from the office for national statistics shows the percentage of people who were out of work and looking for a job dropped to 4.2% in july , and art lovers 4.2% in july, and art lovers were surprised at london zoo this morning as the latest banksy artwork in nine days has been unveiled. the gorilla is the ninth animal themed piece. the elusive street artist has claimed. it follows sunday's artwork, which was piranhas on a police sentry box which has now been removed from near london's old bailey court to preserve it. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> well good afternoon britain. it is 12:08 and we're going to start with the attack in central london yesterday. a man has been charged with stabbing a child who was a tourist eight times. and he's appeared in court. >> well. gb news, national reporter charlie peters was there for us. and charlie, what have we learned today ? have we learned today? >> more? hello there tom and emily. well, joan pinter, age 32, appeared at westminster magistrates court in the last half hour and in a hearing that lasted no longer than 15 minutes, he was remanded into custody after being charged with attempted murder and possession of an offensive. article a blade with a sharp edge and those charges come after reports yesterday of a stabbing of an 11 year old girl at 1136 yesterday morning at leicester square. now, the court heard that the

tourists, the 11 year old girl, was allegedly repeatedly stabbed eight times in leicester square. the popular tourist destination in the centre of the capital. the court was told that she was stabbed eight times into the body where she sustained wounds to the face, shoulder, wrist and neck area, the district judge in the court said. fortunately members of the public intervened, which prevented any further injury being made to the child. and michael snow, the district judge in the court at westminster, added officers were called and found the defendant being held by members of the public. he was detained and searched and found a knife on his person in relation to the complainant. she was taken to hospital . she is still hospital. she is still undergoing treatment. now yesterday we heard from the police that she had serious but not life threatening conditions. but this romanian citizen, johann pentarou, aged 32,

remanded into custody on charges of attempted murder and possession of a bladed article. he will next appear at the old bailey on the 10th of september by video link. and the district judge said that he must remain in custody until then, pending his next appearance. because of the nature and seriousness of the nature and seriousness of the allegations, we heard yesterday that the alleged offender and the victims were not known to one another, and there was also further clarification from the met yesterday that the mother of this 11 year old girl was not injured. the blood that she was found on her body was from injuries allegedly sustained by the child. the 11 year old girl, the child. the 11 year old girl, the alleged victim of that stabbing attack in leicester square yesterday . square yesterday. >> charlie, thank you so much for bringing us that shocking, that shocking detail really there, it's a terrible case. and as charlie says, 10th of september is the next hearing for it.

>> yes, at the old bailey, well, we're going to move on because gb news can exclusively reveal that nearly very close to 5000 small boat migrants across the engush small boat migrants across the english channel since labour came to power. >> well, it comes as the former head of the border force told this channel that sir keir starmer's plans to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve and rely on the complete cooperation of many other countries. >> let us say 5000 labour came into power on july the 5th, so basically a month, month and a week 5000. wow. our home security editor, mark white, is reporting from the compound where many hundreds of seized small boats are stored at a compound on the outskirts of doven >>a doven >> a sobering illustration of the scale of the task facing the new labour government in their efforts to end the channel migrant crisis. row after row of small boats, hundreds of them, many now deflated and rolled up

as we filmed, contractors dropped off more dinghies. the latest to have made the illegal crossing into uk waters. this is for rishi sunak. sir keir starmer's focus is on going after the people smugglers, who've now sent thousands more migrants across the channel. since labour came to power. but the former head of border force says tackling international criminal gangs will be extremely difficult without full cooperation from many other governments. >> these are very, very big. ask i think, to expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs. if you like , without some form of like, without some form of international collaboration where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice to and prevent people and goods crossing borders, etc. rather than the uk being able to do this on their own. >> tony smith says there is no

indication so far that the appetite of the smugglers and their customers has been in any way diminished since labour came to power . to power. >> this is a hugely lucrative business. there is an unending supply of migrants pervading the eu border, many of whom are in various member states very keen to get across to the uk, who are prepared to mortgage their lives effectively to get a place on a very dangerous vessel to get themselves into uk territorial waters. that narrative still exists, i think across europe and beyond . so the pull factor and beyond. so the pull factor is very much there for now at least. >> the migrant boats will continue to stack up here, as even the government acknowledges it will take some time for its new approach to impact the organised criminal gangs, making millions from their trade in human misery. mark white gb news >> well, our home and security

edhon >> well, our home and security editor, mark white joins us now live from dover. and mark, the numbers are ticking up. we're expecting 5000 illegal migrants that that threshold to be passed today. >> yes. it could have been passed today. there was a small boat that left dunkirk a couple of hours back. it was out in the channel trying to make headway, but it was so overloaded with migrants that it was making no headway. and it's just turned back to dunkirk. and what we're expecting now is conditions which are still a little bit on the choppy side in the centre of the choppy side in the centre of the channel, to start to die down overnight, and we will see significant numbers crossing tomorrow. border force and their french counterparts preparing for that because they know the time every time that conditions are flat calm in the channel. that's when the people smugglers

take the opportunity to push out these boats in significant numbers . and you're right, i numbers. and you're right, i heard emily doing her calculations just into my report there. i mean , it's less than there. i mean, it's less than six weeks since labour came to power, and we are now reaching that 5000 mark. and if we get a busy few days in the channel, we'll be pushing 6000. it ticks up. so quickly. >> mark, from your assessment, what exactly is number ten's plan when it comes to this and the home office? i'm reading here that keir starmer and giorgia meloni are planning to make the eu police force focus on tackling illegal migration. that sounds as though it is, again, the focus on smashing the gangs. again, the focus on smashing the gangs . any indication that there gangs. any indication that there might be a deterrent as well ? might be a deterrent as well? >> well, it was like tony smith, the former head of border force, was saying in my report, they're really the issue around law enforcement of course, which is

the main focus for sir keir starmer going forward, smashing the gangs is all well and good. when you give the new border security command counter—terrorism powers, in the westminster parliament, good in the uk, on uk soil and uk territory. the second you go extra territorial to other countries then it's very difficult and you have to rely on complete cooperation from those countries and you're just not going to get that depending on where a lot of the countries are that the migrants are transiting through on their way to europe. so it will be enormously difficult. yes. they're trying with the italians who share the concerns that the uk has, that the numbers, in fact, every eu state really now is very concerned at the numbers coming into their eu borders. but whether they would be willing to grant law enforcement

officials from the uk that kind officials from the uk that kind of access to operate more fully in their countries, i think is, is ngannou. >> it is a very shocking situation. and mark, i have to say, the sea looks bright turquoise even behind you , you turquoise even behind you, you say that in the middle of the channel it's relatively choppy as things stand, but, these things can change. when is the next boat, by your reckoning, going to come across , going to come across, >> overnight tonight into tomorrow. we're expecting quite a few boats to come across. i'll tell you, on a gorgeous day like today, it's really difficult to think that we are in the epicentre of a migrant crisis that has confounded authorities for more than six years now, in terms of their efforts to solve this. if anything, all it has

doneis this. if anything, all it has done is grown in its intensity, and that is what sir keir starmer is finding out. less than six weeks in office, just how difficult a problem this will be to fix. >> yes, and just how hugely expensive it has become for the rest of the country. thank you so much, mark white. you're in dover for us. thank you very much indeed. our home security edhon much indeed. our home security editor. it'sjust much indeed. our home security editor. it's just a massive, massive issue and you can really see the scale of it . see the scale of it. >> looking at that depot with all of the boats , all of the all of the boats, all of the deflated week, broken boats that are designed to be, overloaded and collapsing. so they're out of humanitarian instinct. people have to go and rescue those upon them. it emphasises the callous nature of this trade, but also the scale of it. yes. >> and we've had heard reports of people literally fighting

each other to make it onto these boats. some people don't have enough money to pay the people smugglers, so it becomes each man for their own, essentially to try and get on one of these boats. they're becoming bigger and bigger, more and more people in them. we've got people dying in them. we've got people dying in them. we've got people dying in the channel. i believe there's been 175 in the past year or so. deaths in the channel. it really is just both a humanitarian crisis and of course, a crisis for our border controls and our country. it really is, we shall see what the labour party come up with. but as it stands, smashing the gangs. >> well, we'll be back in dover throughout the programme. this is good afternoon, britain on gb news. lots more coming up on today's programme . today's programme. >> yes. the families of the three people killed by valdo calocane in nottingham have said an nhs trust has blood on its hands after warnings he could become a killer were ignored three years before he carried out his attack. stay with

us. right. well good afternoon britain. it is 12:23 now. the families of the three nottingham stabbing victims, barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates are criticising the mental health services who dealt with killer valdo calocane in the lead up to the attacks , the lead up to the attacks, saying they have blood on their hands. >> it's as a review published today finds that an nhs trust played down calocane's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis. >> yes, in the last few minutes, health secretary wes streeting has said the report is deeply distressing. >> well, joining us now is our east midlands reporter, will hollis, will it seems that there was just failure after failure after failure . after failure. >> yes. well, it's more than a

year ago that valdo calocane killed his victims. grace o'malley. kumar. barnaby webber andian o'malley. kumar. barnaby webber and ian coates on the 13th of june, 2023. and at the start of this year, the attorney general ordered a special review into the failings at nottinghamshire health care trust here in the city. and that review has now been published by the cqc, who said that the risks of valdo calocane to the public were minimised or omitted. and that's from the mentor in the review conducted about the mental health trust that was treating calocane . in the review, it calocane. in the review, it described how over eight different risk assessments in the time that valdo calocane was being cared for by the nhs trust risk assessments highlighted psychosis and those sorts of symptoms, as well as calocane

refusal to take the medication , refusal to take the medication, and the cqc highlights how those risks were downplayed between that period of may 2020 and september 2022, when over that penod september 2022, when over that period valdo calocane was sectioned four times, three of them here at highbury hospital. the cqc says in this report that falcons records make it quite clear that he was acutely unwell throughout that two year period. now, in responding to this today, the families of calocane victims have said that the medics and the doctors that cared for calocane in that two year period have blood on their hands. but they say that after meeting with the health secretary, after meeting with the attorney general, they now have been promised a public inquiry that they've been campaigning for since valdo calocane was sentenced to a hospital order for an indefinite penod hospital order for an indefinite period of time at ashworth, high

security hospital in merseyside. we've got a statement here from nottinghamshire healthcare nhs foundation trust, which says from a spokesperson we acknowledge and accept the conclusions of this report and have significantly improved processes and standards since the review was carried out . the review was carried out. well, well , thank you so much well, well, thank you so much for bringing us that from from nottingham. >> i think the whole community there must be very shocked as well. and i know that you've been reporting on this throughout the last 12 or so months. >> i mean, there's so many questions here. aren't there, what went wrong, why was he let out so many times despite failing to take his medication and despite, some people in the profession knowing that he could potentially be a risk. i mean, what systemic changes can be made now? do people need to be held accountable? do they need to be named and shamed? people at the top , and also the bbc,

at the top, and also the bbc, the bbc panorama, which some of you may have watched , lots of you may have watched, lots of questions about whether that was suitable to potentially arguably shine a bit of a sympathetic light on valdo calocane family and him himself well painted as and him himself well painted as a victim, painting him as a victim here, of course, clearly suffering mental health issues. >> but how many people who've committed murder in cold blood or sorry, who have killed people in cold blood? how many of those people can you say are truly right in the head? i mean, i think there are questions here about how we talk about people who have killed other people. i mean, the fact that we're not legally, legally, it's not correct to call valdo calocane a murderer. yeah, that's not legally right because he was convicted of manslaughter . it convicted of manslaughter. it doesn't sit right with me. i don't think it sits right with many people in this country. and there was a proposal , many people in this country. and there was a proposal, around many people in this country. and there was a proposal , around the there was a proposal, around the time of the election, actually,

that we start to introduce different degrees of murder like they have in the united states, rather than just this binary. was it murder or was it manslaughter? surely it would. it would sit better with people. it would sit better with people. it would sit better with victims if there were different degrees of murder and that we could call this murder. >> and i think the most important thing is how to try and ensure this doesn't happen again. and i know the victims families really, really want this report and also a potential pubuc this report and also a potential public inquiry to really address this. so this type of thing can't happen. and we're going to pose these questions to emma webber, who is the mother of barnaby webber. of course, one of the student victims only 19 years old when he was , killed in years old when he was, killed in nottingham. and she's going to join us very shortly. so do stay with us. >> but let's get to some of youn >> but let's get to some of your. oh, we've got some views. gp news exclusive that 5000 migrants are expected now to have crossed the channel in small boats since labour came to power. >> okay. well mary has got in

touch. he says i'll probably be slated for this, but why does starmer get all the leaders from all the other parties round a table to come up with a solution to the migrant problem ? i don't to the migrant problem? i don't know why you'd be slated for that. it sounds a good idea. we need a cross party consensus whether it would ever happen. i think there's a slim chance. >> i think therein lies the problem. i'm not sure that you're going to get. carla denyen you're going to get. carla denyer, the leader of the greens and stephen flynn from the snp, and stephen flynn from the snp, and nigel farage and nigel farage sitting around a table singing kumbaya. i'm not sure it's going to happen. >> i mean, it's quite good at getting the europeans together. they've been having lots of little joint communiques recently. apparently he's to talking giorgia meloni, the italian leader. so perhaps he can make some progress in that way. i'm being quite generous here because all these european countries are failing to address this problem. >> well, elizabeth says, i agree with nigel farage. it's about time the conservatives realised that they lost the votes for their ineptitude and lack of courage to stop the boats. badenoch and the rest are out of

reality. all parties want your vote when they when we give it, they abuse it and do not carry out as promised before the elections. >> yeah , it's true, we are >> yeah, it's true, we are sometimes lied to. >> but i guess a politician would say things change. the conditions change. >> emily carver are you saying that politicians sometimes don't tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> that's okay. i'm not accusing any individual , so i'm on safe any individual, so i'm on safe ground there, but yes, the 10,000. remember that. anyway please do continue to get in touch. gbnews.com/yoursay have your say. >> but coming up, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has warned vladimir putin that the war is coming home to russia as ukraine continues its incursion into that country's territory. that's after your headunes territory. that's after your headlines with severe . headlines with severe. >> tom. emily. thank you. it's 1231. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the families of the

gb newsroom. the families of the three nottingham stabbing victims have criticised the mental health services who dealt with killer valdo calocane, saying they have blood on their hands. that's after a new review found an nhs trust played down kalakani's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis. calocane, who has paranoid schizophrenia, fatally stabbed 19 year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley—kumar before killing 65 year old caretaker ian coates in june of 2023. a man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11 year old girl was stabbed eight times in leicester square. the 32 year old romanian citizen johann penacho , of no fixed address, penacho, of no fixed address, has also been charged with possession of a bladed article. it was initially thought that the girl's mother had also been hurt, however, it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter's injuries had been mistaken for injuries of her own .

mistaken for injuries of her own. donald trump has called joe biden's decision to quit the presidential race a coup . during presidential race a coup. during a talk with tech billionaire elon musk . a talk with tech billionaire elon musk. the a talk with tech billionaire elon musk . the interview finally elon musk. the interview finally got underway on x with more than 1.3 million people tuning in after a delay, which musk blamed on a cyber attack . trump on a cyber attack. trump confirmed he will return to butler in pennsylvania in october after surviving an assassination attempt. there and art lovers were surprised at london zoo this morning as the latest banksy artwork in nine dales days was unveiled . the dales days was unveiled. the gorilla is the ninth animal themed piece in the elusive street artist's work. it follows sunday's artwork of piranhas on a police sentry box, which has now been removed from near london's old bailey court to preserve it. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news

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>> good afternoon britain. it's 36 minutes past midday now , 36 minutes past midday now, president zelenskyy of ukraine has warned vladimir putin that the war is coming home. that's as ukraine's surprise assaults into russia continues . into russia continues. >> yes, thousands have been forced to flee their homes in the kursk and belgorod regions, with the incursion being the first time russia has ceded territory to a foreign power since the second world war. >> well, the attack is also being seen as a major test for the russian president, but he has sought to downplay the gravity of the situation simply by claiming kyiv was trying to gain a bargaining chip for the future. negotiations to end the war with the help of its western

masters. those are the words of vladimir putin. >> okay, well, let's get the thoughts now of member of the ukrainian parliament andrey osadchuk. andrey, thank you very much for taking the time to speak to us. what exactly is the state of play as we speak? how much russian territory has the ukrainian military taken here? >> good afternoon. thank you for having me here. so based on the official position of ukrainian top leadership, we control something like 1000km2 of russian territory. and based on my understanding, the ukrainian troops continue its progress. they continue to move inside of the russian territory. simultaneously, different reports are saying that ukrainian army was able to capture something like 1000 of russian soldiers and officers. so for a while, the counteroffensive on russian territory looks pretty much efficient and successful for ukrainian armed forces. and in fact, it is the seventh day of

counteroffensive. and we see that russian federation still cannot do nothing serious just to stop ukrainian army. >> this is hugely embarrassing for vladimir putin having to cede 1000km of his own country, having that that video of his own soldiers surrendering to ukrainian troops, people running away . hugely embarrassing for ukrainian troops, people running away. hugely embarrassing for a man who sees himself as as sort of the head of a global power. but, but what is the actual purpose of this invasion into russia? is this a bargaining chip? so that no one can say, we must freeze the lines where they are? is it so that you can swap this for crimea later down the line, or is it simply to take russian troops away from the pressure points in the south and get them defending their own territory in the north? >> there are there are a number of objectives, but fundamental objective is that in each fight,

if you are not attacking , you if you are not attacking, you will lose, it's impossible for ukrainian army to keep symmetric war. if you want . definitely. war. if you want. definitely. russian army was and is much bigger . they russian army was and is much bigger. they had much more people, much more military ammunition. so that's why we had to create something different , to create something different, to create something different, to act asymmetrically, to act with creativity, to do something unexpected for russian forces. and that's exactly what ukrainian army is doing for second time. because if you remember, in october 2022, we had very successful operation in liberation of kharkiv region . liberation of kharkiv region. now we also did very unexpected move for russia because they never expect that we can be so brave and aggressive to attack russian territory. but again, for us, this is the only way how we can fight for strong position in possible theoretical dialogues with ukraine, with russia. sorry. because still today the official position of russian federation is unchanged since the beginning of big war. they want ukraine surrender

together with the west. putin wants to put the west on the knees and that's his target. and the only argument which he understand is force. so he must feel pain. and that's exactly what we are doing now. so we are changing the picture of this war. and from another side we confirm that we are not just consuming the western support. we are extremely efficient in fighting with russian federation. >> just on that point, what, ammunitions and military equipment have ukraine been using? >> because this is an offensive and as i understand , britain and as i understand, britain does not want our ammunitions or military equipment to be used for something that is considered an offensive rather than on ukrainian territory . ukrainian territory. >> it was absolutely brutal and ridiculous . position of the ridiculous. position of the west. during first 30 months of the war. so it's impossible that the war. so it's impossible that the war. so it's impossible that the war can happen only in ukraine. it's impossible that russian population are watching war on their tv, listening propaganda. it's impossible that

russian forces are attacking ukraine from russian territory and ukraine is limited in using military capabilities which we receive from the west. we must receive from the west. we must receive the right to win this war. we cannot conduct this war dunng war. we cannot conduct this war during years. we have huge losses and the time plays against us. so that's why for the moment, we are working with all our partners and clients, partners and allies to agree that the only limitation for ukrainian army shall be the international humanitarian law, which we fully comply with. the rest shall be legitimate targets for ukrainian military. if we want to finish this war in upcoming future. >> it does seem strange that there's been this taboo that the russia's allowed to sort of fire from its own territory, but somehow ukraine isn't allowed to go into russian territory to stop them. but but i wonder, of course , western leaders have course, western leaders have been very timid about this , been very timid about this, worrying about escalation, worrying about escalation, worrying about escalation,

worrying about the words of mr putin and worrying about mr putin's nuclear button. is there not some risk that this will lead to escalation, that vladimir putin could come down far harder on that and spread this war well beyond the locality that it is currently present in? >> from april 2022, we heard the word escalation. no one defined. what does it mean? but a lot of leaders and political actors are repeating escalation and escalation. since that time, all red lines which were set up by putin was crossed by ukraine and by our allies. remember that himars was a red line, leopards and abrams tanks was a red lines. so there were dozens and dozens of red lines which were crossed by ukraine. but at the same time, during 13 months of war, russia continued mass missiles attack all over the territory of ukraine. russia killed hundreds of dozens of

thousands of ukrainians, and the only way to stop them is force. so we have this force and we demonstrate to the world that we are not afraid of them . just are not afraid of them. just give us the chance to finish this war and it will give a big opportunity for the west to build a new architecture of safety and security. as for the europe, as for the world. >> okay. well, thank you very much indeed for your time. andre osadchuk, you are a member of the ukrainian parliament. thank you very much for speaking to us this afternoon . this afternoon. >> i quite like the audaciousness of this sort of the idea that, the idea that you can sort of do for the first time since the second world war, attempt something that that defeated napoleon in the end and that's to invade russia. >> you're not worried, though, if there is a push to use western military equipment, western military equipment, western missiles, british missiles to attack russia in its own territory, that that is rather alarming from a national

security sense or indeed, from a moral sense. no russia's already killed people in the united kingdom, but with our weapons, i think with our weapons, i think that there has been a risk of timidity here, where western leaders have been saying, oh, if we if we give the wrong sort of weapon or if we give the wrong sort of aeroplane, i mean, for the first, for the first six months of this war, the only thing that the germans would give was helmets. but do you not think the goalpost of goalposts have shifted here? yeah, but i think no one was expecting. at least as far as i know, it wasn't being spoken about anyway, that ukraine would do something like this. yeah, and i'm saying that that that original sort of, view those limits to, to this have have clearly hurt ukraine's ability to fight back. >> i mean, what what other war in the world do you say that the invaded party can only operate within a certain sphere, whereas the other party, the invader, can operate in lots more territory? >> i think my concern is not that it's the use of western capabilities and our ammunitions and missiles. i mean, the uk government , as far and missiles. i mean, the uk government, as far as i

and missiles. i mean, the uk government , as far as i know government, as far as i know have are still holding to ukraine. can't use these specific missiles for that purpose. whether that will change, i don't know. let us know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay are you worried? do you see this as some kind of dangerous escalation, or do you think actually this is exactly what ukraine should be doing? i mean, could could this in the end if ukraine scare them into retreat , if ukraine ends in the end if ukraine scare them into retreat, if ukraine ends up taking a larger chunk of russian territory, could this be the beginning of a deal? >> could this end the war? could they just do a swap? >> see, you know, i mean, that's that's the hope from i guess, from the west perspective. yeah. and that way it's sorted. but how realistic is that this is. good afternoon britain. we're on gb news. we've got lots more coming up. >> well meghan and harry lose yet another senior employee. yes. their chief of staff, john kettler, has quit after barely three months in the role. this comes just before the couple begin their quasi royal tour of colombia .

>> right. it is 1249 now. good afternoon, britain. now, prince harry and meghan markle's chief of staff has reportedly quit just three months into the role . just three months into the role. >> yes. josh cutler, who joined harry on his visit to london to celebrate the anniversary of the invictus games, is said now to have suddenly quit. >> but this resignation might not come as a complete shock, tom, because the sussexes have reportedly seen at least 18 staff members leave since their marriage in 2018. it does seem to be a bit of a revolving door you're in and then you're out and is it mutual or can they not stand working with the duo ? stand working with the duo? >> well, let's try and get, beneath the top line of this.

now, the thoughts of former royal correspondent at the sun , royal correspondent at the sun, charles rea charles, thanks for joining us. pleasure. this seems like a pretty sudden resignation. well, it is, and we don't really know if it is a resignation or a sacking. >> one assuming it's a resignation. and to quote the old queen song, it's another one who bites the dust. i mean , who bites the dust. i mean, emily's just mentioned about 18 to 20 people have left the sussexes employ, since they, got married and went to, buy the palace and now in california, and the duchess still can't get hold of anyone, to take on a key role in her, what is it? american riviera. riviera or something? >> yes. >> yes. >> yeah, something like that. some notable tosh, >> she can't, she can't get someone to take on that job despite interviewing a number of people, >> i mean, when princess diana went through a phase of getting rid of a lot of people, she

became known as princess p45. belem. i think, you know, harry's equally becoming known . harry's equally becoming known. now known as the prince of p45. because nobody wants to work for them. and you can understand why it is a difficult job. they are known both of them are known to be very, very difficult people to work with. >> yeah, i mean, charles, haven't there been bullying allegations in the past specifically referring to meghan? here about staff within the palace and the like there have, emily of course she denies all that. >> but there are there are documentary. there is documentary. there is documentary evidence which apparently is locked away in a in a safe somewhere at buckingham palace that, against allegations, particularly against meghan and the way she treats people , it does seem treats people, it does seem strange that people would be there for such a short period of time, given particularly in the united states, the couple's relative popularity, particularly in in california and los angeles. >> there are certain parts of

the and we can see this in surveys particularly. i mean , surveys particularly. i mean, people align with their politics. i suppose. and if you live in a very blue part of the united states, you're likely to be a big fan of this couple. >> well, i think the their, their popularity in, in america is going downhill. >> don't forget, don't donald trump is threatened or his son has threatened to have them deported when and if he becomes, when trump becomes president. so that's how popular they are. it's not going to happen. that's it's not going to happen. that's i mean, that's being facetious. you can't you can't, deport meghan for a start. she's an american. she's an american citizen , citizen, >> but they're not as popular as you as you think, tom. their their popularity is definitely on the wane in america . on the wane in america. >> yeah, tom, stick with it. you're not looking at the popularity ratings, but, charles, i mean, this just before they're going on this mega tour to, to, colombia isn't exactly great timing, is it? perhaps he just couldn't bear to go with them.

>> well, no, kettler went with them to the tour of nigeria as well, >> so he, as chief of staff, you are supposedly are the key personnel that you need by your side to guide you through any, booby traps that may be there or whatever, just to make sure it all supposedly runs smoothly, and with him not being there , and with him not being there, who's going to step into the breach? i'm sure they'll find someone. but who's going to step in? who knows who's going to step in? >> hey, charles, don't fancy the job. thank you very much indeed . job. thank you very much indeed. >> they couldn't afford me, emily. >> they couldn't afford you . >> they couldn't afford you. absolutely not. they could not afford you. charles rae. thank you very much indeed. former royal correspondent at the sun. i quite like my own chief of staff. yes, like my own? yeah. >> although , i don't know, sort >> although, i don't know, sort everything out for me, i think. i think before you have a chief of staff, you have to have some staff. >> yeah, i just settle for a pa. yeah, there we go. >> well, lots more coming up on the show. don't go anywhere. the man accused of carrying out yesterday's stabbing in leicester square has been

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>> well good afternoon britain. it is now 1:00 on tuesday the 13th of august. >> i'm emily carver and i'm tom harwood, a 32 year old romanian citizen. >> uon pentru of no fixed address, has been charged with stabbing a girl eight times in leicester square. we're outside westminster magistrates court and a gb news exclusive tonight. >> 5000 migrants are expected to have crossed the channel in

small boats since labour came to power. that's despite a promise to smash the gangs. arrivals are now accelerating. what exactly is number ten's plan ? is number ten's plan? >> and bbc comes under fire. the state broadcaster has been accused of airing a sympathetic portrait of nottingham triple killer valdo calocane. we'll speak to the mother of barnaby webber, one of the victims and a pro fox hunting group, says that fox hunters should be protected under equality laws in the same way as the roma community or lgbt people. >> are they right? well, we'll be hosting that foxy debate . be hosting that foxy debate. >> this is so funny. >> this is so funny. >> it sounds mad , but there's >> it sounds mad, but there's some method to this madness. >> go on then, make the case.

make the case for making fox hunters a protected minority under equality law. >> under equality law , people >> under equality law, people with philosophical beliefs, deeply held philosophical beliefs are protected in the same way that people with religions are protected , vegans, religions are protected, vegans, for example, are protected under the equality act, and of course, we mentioned that is crazy. >> that is crazy that vegans just which is just a preference thing . thing. >> well, yeah. well exactly. >> well, yeah. well exactly. >> well, yeah. well exactly. >> well you're not born with it. >> well you're not born with it. >> one could argue any philosophy is a preference, right? one could argue any religion is a preference. and there's, there's where you get into the, the thorns of this. you know, if you're going to protect someone for being christian or for being muslim or for being buddhist, then surely you're going to protect someone for being zoroastrian or atheist or the church of the flying spaghetti , austrian zoroastrian. spaghetti, austrian zoroastrian. >> all right. okay, yes, i might, i might look into that. yes. >> well, but here's the thing.

you're not born with a religion. you're not born with a religion. you grow up in a society that's going to influence your religion, but, but but equally. >> well, in some cases, you can be born into a religion. for example, if you're jewish. >> yeah, but that's a race. yeah, well, it's a people. >> yeah, people. >> yeah, people. >> but, but, but but here's the thing. you can you can change your religion, right? you can join a religion. you can freely choose to do that. that's protected under the equality act . protected under the equality act. although it's deep set and it's held very deeply in people's hearts and their culture and their history. surely fox hunting, something that's happened for thousands of years on these isles that seems to be such a deep part of people's identity and their community. can't you argue that that sits in a very similar place? under the terms of the equality act? now, you could argue the equality act is a load of bunkum. and maybe in some parts it is. >> well, maybe this maybe this demonstrates that. but yes, we're going to be talking to ed swales, who is the chair of

hunting kind. and he wants to take this, you know, he's got a legal battle here. >> well, you know, we'll hear all about that after your news headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon. it's 1:03. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the health secretary has said the deaths of barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates at the hands of valdo calocane could have been prevented. wes streeting was reacting to the findings of a review of calocane care. the review of calocane care. the review found an nhs trust played down calocane risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis. he was a paranoid schizophrenic and he fatally stabbed 19 year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley—kumar before killing 65 year old caretaker ian coates in june of 2023. a man has appeared in court charged with attempted

murder after an 11 year old girl was stabbed eight times in leicester square. the 32 year old romanian citizen johann pinnock, of no fixed address, has also been charged with possession of a bladed article. it was initially thought that the girl's mother had also been hurt. however, it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter's injuries had been mistaken for injuries of her own officers. in kent searching for a missing girl from sittingbourne have released a cctv image believed to show her in canterbury. 12 year old katie spice was reported missing after last being seen in sittingbourne high street at 4 pm. on sunday, the 11th of august. police have now released a cctv image believed to show katie getting off a train at canterbury east railway station shortly after 5 pm, wearing black leggings and p.m, wearing black leggings and a pink top. police are urging anyone with information to come forward . nearly 5000 small boat forward. nearly 5000 small boat migrants have crossed the channel since labour came to

power. that's as the former head of border force, tony smith, told gb news that sir keir starmer's plan to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve. >> we expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs. if you like , to smash the gangs. if you like, without some form of international collaboration where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice to and prevent people and goods crossing borders, etc. rather than the uk being able to do this on their own. >> in the us, donald trump has called joe biden's decision to quit the presidential race a coup. during a talk with tech billionaire elon musk, the interview finally got underway on x, with more than 1.3 million people tuning in after a delay, which musk blamed on a cyber attack. trump confirmed he will return to butler in pennsylvania in october after surviving an assassination attempt there. the us presidential candidate also

criticised the eu and his democratic opponent, kamala harris. >> i can tell you this we cannot have a democrat. we cannot have her. she's incompetent. she's as bad as biden in a different yeah . bad as biden in a different yeah. he hasn't done an interview since this whole, scam started. and say what you want. this was a coup. this was a coup of a president of the united states. he didn't want to leave. and they said, we can do it the nice way, or we can do it the hard way. >> ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has told russian leader vladimir putin that the war is coming home in his most direct challenge to putin yet that's a week after ukraine first stormed the kursk region of russia in what was the largest counterattack on putin's territory since the war began. ukraine's top commander has said kyivs forces now control 1000km2 of russian territory . meanwhile, of russian territory. meanwhile, all of ukraine is under air raid alert amid russian drone attacks and two ballistic missiles . an

and two ballistic missiles. an inquest into the death of former england cricketer graham thorpe has opened today, after his wife revealed the sportsman tragically took his own life. the inquest heard graham thorpe died after being struck by a train at a railway station in surrey. tributes flooded in for the late cricketer after his death on august 5th. his family have since revealed he had been suffering from depression and anxiety . the uk employment rate anxiety. the uk employment rate has surprisingly fallen, according to official figures. data from the office for national statistics shows the percentage of people who were out of work and looking for a job dropped to 4.2% in july , and job dropped to 4.2% in july, and art lovers were surprised at london zoo this morning as the latest banksy artwork has been unveiled. the gorilla is the ninth animal themed piece. the elusive street artist has claimed this week. it follows sunday's artwork, which was

piranhas on a police sentry box which has now been removed from near london's old bailey court to preserve it . those are the to preserve it. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's now 1:08, and let's start with the attack in central london yesterday. and a man charged with stabbing a child tourist eight times has appeared in court. >> well, let's cross to our national reporter, charlie peters, who's been at the court for us this afternoon. charlie, what did we learn today ? what did we learn today? >> well, 32 year old romanian citizen johan pinter, who has

been remanded in custody after being charged with attempted murder and possession of an offensive blade that comes after a knife attack injured an 11 year old girl yesterday in leicester square at 1136 in the morning. that busy central london tourist destination . now london tourist destination. now this 11 year old girl was allegedly repeatedly stabbed in the body where she sustained wounds to her face, neck, shoulder and wrist area. the court heard that the alleged victim, that 11 year old girl, is a tourist who was there with her 34 year old mother. now the girl is still being treated in a london hospital with serious conditions but not a life threatening condition. thankfully, now at the time of the detention of the suspect, the detention of the suspect, the metropolitan police did say that both the 34 year old and

the 11 year old had been injured, but they clarified last night that it was only the 11 year old girl who had sustained injuries . now, during the 15 injuries. now, during the 15 minutes of proceedings at westminster magistrates this morning, the district judge, michael snow, said fortunately , michael snow, said fortunately, members of the public intervened, which prevented any further injury being made to child. officers were called and found the defendant being held by members of the public, and he said that a knife was found on his person. the complainants , his person. the complainants, the judge said, is still being treated in hospital . but 32 year treated in hospital. but 32 year old johan pinter, that romanian citizen, has been remanded in custody after those charges. he will next appear at the old bailey on the 10th of september via video link. >> well, charlie, thank you very much for bringing us that. the news that we will be following in september. >> yes. and in other news, gb news can exclusively reveal that nearly 5000 small boat migrants

have crossed the english channel since labour came to power just last month. >> well, it comes as the former head of the border force told this channel that sir keir starmer's plans to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve and rely on the complete cooperation of many other countries. >> yes, our home and security edhon >> yes, our home and security editor, mark white reports from the compound, where many hundreds of seized small boats are stored at a compound on the outskirts of dover. >> a sobering illustration of the scale of the task facing the new labour government in their efforts to end the channel migrant crisis. row after row of small boats, hundreds of them, many now deflated and rolled up as we filmed , contractors as we filmed, contractors dropped off more dinghies. the latest to have made the illegal crossing into uk waters. this is for rishi sunak. sir keir starmer's focus is on going after the people smugglers, who've now sent thousands more

migrants across the channel. since labour came to power. but the former head of border force says tackling international criminal gangs will be extremely difficult without full cooperation from many other governments . governments. >> he's a very, very big ask. i think , to expect the uk to be think, to expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs. if you like , without some form of like, without some form of international collaboration where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice to and prevent people and goods crossing borders, etc. rather than the uk being able to do this on their own. >> tony smith says there is no indication so far that the appetite of the smugglers and their customers has been in any way diminished since labour came to power . to power. >> this is a hugely lucrative business. there is an unending supply of migrants pervading the

eu border, many of whom are in various member states very keen to get across to the uk , who are to get across to the uk, who are prepared to mortgage their lives effectively , to get a place on a effectively, to get a place on a very dangerous vessel, to get themselves into uk territorial waters. that narrative still exists, i think across europe and beyond. so the pull factor is very much there for now at least. >> the migrant boats will continue to stack up here as even the government acknowledges it will take some time for its new approach to impact the organised criminal gangs, making millions from their trade in human misery . millions from their trade in human misery. mark millions from their trade in human misery . mark white millions from their trade in human misery. mark white gb news. >> shocking to see it all laid out before us like that, but mark white of course, our home and security editor joins mark white of course, our home and security editorjoins us and security editor joins us live from dover and mark, we're expecting perhaps tonight. the 5,000th migrants to cross since the labour party came to power.

>> undoubtedly. i think we might have crossed that threshold earlier today. a boatload absolutely packed with migrants left dunkirk a little earlier this morning. it was out there for a couple of hours trying to make headway, but because of the sheer weight of numbers on that flimsy vessel, it couldn't make any headway and was forced to turn back. but what we know from this crisis is those on board that vessel will simply be packed onto another vessel that will either go out later tonight or tomorrow, or the next day, but at some point they'll try again and probably be successful in getting across to uk waters in getting across to uk waters in being picked up and then adding to that total over 5000, that were approaching now and then really within days we could be at 6000, then up to 7000. we're in the flat, calm weather conditions , of course, the

conditions, of course, the height of summer when they do come across in very significant numbers, >> and mark how high up the priority list for the new labour government. do you sense that this issue is ? this issue is? >> well, it's certainly a priority in that it was a big issue in the lead up to the election. a while rishi sunak probably created a bit of a hostage to fortune in saying that he planned to stop the boats as one of his five key pledges . i boats as one of his five key pledges. i think likewise, sir keir starmer was very , very keir starmer was very, very pubucin keir starmer was very, very public in his commitment to smashing the gangs. that's his slogan . so yes, he'll be given slogan. so yes, he'll be given some time because clearly it's got to work its way through with the creation of this new border security command and for it to be fully operational. but, you know, as the months tick on and there is no letup in those coming across the channel, patience with that administration and with its plan

to smash the gangs, is likely to. i think we're pretty thin . to. i think we're pretty thin. >> well, mark white, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there. it seems like it's a never ending story and no doubt an increasing one. >> yes, well, this is good afternoon, britain. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. now, this question should pro fox hunting groups be protected under equality laws in the same way as, say , the roma the same way as, say, the roma community is or lgbtq+ people are? we're going to be hosting that debate after this

welcome back. it's 1:20 now. a little bit earlier, we were discussing ukraine's incursion into russian territory 10,000km,

1000 square, i think. oh, sorry, 1000km2 of territory in russia that they now have control over. lots of you getting in touch. tony says, emily seems to think that ukraine using western weapons to target russian territory is an escalation . territory is an escalation. emily, did you forget the drones suppued emily, did you forget the drones supplied by iran , munitions supplied by iran, munitions suppued supplied by iran, munitions supplied by iran, munitions supplied by north korea and other items supplied by china, which hit targets in ukraine on a daily basis? why ask to ukraine fight with one hand tied behind their back? very good point tony makes there. >> yeah, i think that there's been a lot of, a lot of perhaps timidity with regard to the sort of western response for the first six months, the germans refused to give anything other than helmets to the ukrainians, saying, oh, we can't give anything other than defensive. i mean, what is defensive and what is offensive? i think we've moved past that considerably now, and, i do just quite like the ballsiness of this move. i

mean, putin is a strong man who doesn't respect anything about sort of international order or anything. and and, and he has been so humiliated here with a town after town after town surrendering. he's been pretending that the ukrainians have been retreating. well, now he can't pretend that his country no, he can't has been invaded by another country successfully for the first time since the second world war. >> there are some other views. dec says the problem with giving ukraine our weapons is that it will make our weapons less effective for when we need them . effective for when we need them. russia will be collecting data about the performance of our weapons and no doubt sharing that information with its allies. god forbid the day we need our weapons, only to find out that they're now redundant. but neil says , wake up, you too. but neil says, wake up, you too. ukraine must use every weapon they have to push russia out of ukraine. emily, stop bleeding on about what weapons they have. did putin stop using north korean missiles to kill women and children ? did they stop and children? did they stop using iran made drones to kill innocent people in ukraine? they did not. they have to use the

weapons at their disposal. a strong stuff there from neil. and, stephen says, why give someone weapons in support of the struggle and then tie their hands a lot of support, it seems. i would say the majority of people getting in touch this afternoon believe that ukraine have every right and should do exactly that, make use of the weapons that they have. yeah, >> i don't want to drag this debate down, but i do think it's also just quite funny. funny? he's funny. he's quite funny. i mean, but putin's sort of been pretending that he's been winning. and now suddenly it's like, you really haven't, mate . like, you really haven't, mate. >> well, there you go. please do continue to get in touch, gbnews.com/yoursay. but we're going to move on to this rather bizarre story, because a pro fox hunting group says it's preparing a legal case that will argue they should be protected under equality laws in the same way as, say, the roma community or lgbtq+ people. >> well, while this would not lift the uk hunting ban, it would mean that employers were not able to discriminate against employees with pro hunting

views. the former labour minister mike foster hit back on twitter , saying it's an example twitter, saying it's an example of people who've lost the plot. so should fox hunters become a protected group in the united kingdom? well, delighted to be debating this. now we're joined by the chair of hunting kind ed swales, who feels fox hunters should be a protected group, and pip donovan, the founder of action against fox hunting, who thinks that they shouldn't, my goodness me, where do we start with this? well, ed, you're making the case. what is it? >> thanks very much indeed. >> thanks very much indeed. >> hopefully i'm not losing the plot, we've investigated with, with senior legal people in this country, lawmakers, governors of law and specifically, we've just looked at the equality act 2010 and looked at the protectable characteristics of minorities. as you mentioned, there , roma, as you mentioned, there, roma, lgbt, plus all the rest of those. and we've thought, well, how could we? because we feel that we are a group of people

who are being eradicated, and our way of life is about to end very, very possibly with labour legislation. and we thought, well, we're going to have a look at the law and see if the law can work for us. >> just just on that point, what a labour looking to introduce. i thought a fox hunting was already banned. >> yeah, sure. no, fox hunting was banned by act of parliament in 2004. so tony blair's government invoked the parliament act and went past the house of lords. parliament act and went past the house of lords . and i think he house of lords. and i think he used something like 700 hours of parliamentary time to debate that, followed up by a quick, sneaky seven hours to go to iraq, because everybody was quite happy with him by then because he'd banned fox hunting. so that's been banned since 2004. what labour now keir starmer has decided to include in the manifesto, to ban trail hunting, which has been the replacement activity that we were actually advised to do by labour back in 2004.

>> well, goodness me, pip, does this not sound like there is a group here, who are being discriminated against their way of life being eradicated ? of life being eradicated? >> well, their way of life involves taking a pack of hounds out into the countryside and either deliberately or accidentally killing an animal. if you think about the stag hunts , since the stag hunts hunts, since the stag hunts season started on the 1st of august, they've killed three stags that we know of, they've pursued them for hours, and then they killed them . so the reason they killed them. so the reason why people don't like fox hunters or stag hunters or hare courses or hare hunters is because of the animal cruelty involved, they say they . involved, they say they. >> could i ask you a parallel question? yeah. would you say that amazonian tribes should

move out of the rainforest and not attack animals in the rainforest and go and move into cities and stop living their traditional lives? >> not at all, the point about fox hunting and any other type of hunting that we're talking about here is that it's recreational animal cruelty. it's a sport. and the fox hunting ban came in because it was considered unethical to pursue an animal, a wild mammal for sport. and we know we all know that the reason why the government now are planning on banning trail hunting is because the hunting act 2004 has been disregarded by the hunts, and we all know that. and it really is time that we all admitted that, because until we admit that we none of us can move on, none of us can move on, >> none of us can move on, >> ed, to a lot of people, it might sound a little bit

ridiculous to put pro fox hunting views in the same sort of, i don't know, group or idea as , as, as legislation to as, as, as legislation to protect minority characteristics like your sexual sexuality or, or your race. i mean , gareth's or your race. i mean, gareth's gone so far as to say he's got in touch. he says foxes should be a protected group, not the pompous killers who hunt them. that's gareth's strong view. what do you say to that? >> well, i think that hits the nail on the head. >> well, i think that hits the nail on the head . thank you. nail on the head. thank you. because, the lack of understanding and let's say sort of prejudiced discrimination based on a bit of a lack of or quite a lot of lack of understanding of our way of life, makes it very, very to easy discriminate. and looking at those lovely pictures you just had on of, of foxhounds, if that's what they were, they might have been staghounds, i don't know, in a community, as part of the life of rural communities, that's a, that's a thread that's been going on for i know since man was running around, in cave paintings, you know , with dogs chasing deer,

know, with dogs chasing deer, let's say, and so through our literature and our art and our culture and our relationships with each other, with our landholders and our farmers, we've developed over millennia these really deeply held strong views, and opinions about ourselves and our way of life. and i think you can if you don't confuse questions like race or sexuality with ethnicity, which is essentially just people grouping together based around their shared beliefs and identifying with each other, that's , i think, essentially it, that's, i think, essentially it, then you can look at the, the qualifications for that. and see that we very closely fit that. so we've got a long and shared, cultural history, which is distinct from wider society. we've got distinct customs of our own. we've got a common geographical origin because we all you know, i live in northumberland. my family's been here 500 years. indigenous

british people , not not wishing british people, not not wishing to say anything else about anybody else. i'm just saying that's what we are. and we do have common ancestors, common language and common literature. so those things qualify, whether anybody would agree with what we do or like what we do, those things qualify us for that protected status. >> yes. >> yes. >> i suppose it does sound silly on the face of it, but, perhaps the legislation has been badly written and is and is silly in the first place, but pip pip donovan, i wonder there is let's, let's let's try another comparison, muslims living in the united kingdom aren't born with their faith now. it's a huge part of who they are. it's held very deeply with them. but they would say that the right to slit the throats of animals in order to produce halal food is protected under the equality act. is that not similar to what we're hearing here with this argument about fox hunting ?

argument about fox hunting? >> i don't think it's similar at all, i think what you've got to bearin all, i think what you've got to bear in mind that, ed thinks it is okay to take a pack of dogs out into the countryside and allow them to tear a fox apart. thatis allow them to tear a fox apart. that is what he's trying to protect, i have no problem with them going out on their horses. ihave them going out on their horses. i have no problem with them, riding across the fields. i have no problem with them dressing up in their pinks. i don't mind the only thing i object to is taking a pack of dogs out into the countryside and allowing them to tear an animal apart. that is wrong. that is morally wrong, the muslim issue is quite separate, and i don't think i'm qualified to comment on it. >> but why? >> but why? >> why not though you're saying that it's unnecessary? fox hunting and all the rest of it, even though it's a it's a deeply held, tradition that many people in the united kingdom believe in. it's also a very deeply held

belief for muslim people that in order to correctly kill an animal, you slit its throat while it hangs. now, a lot of animal rights activists say that that's wrong, but that is protected under the equality act because it's a belief that is protected . is there a big protected. is there a big difference ? difference? >> yes, a huge difference, one is being done for food, the other is being done for fun. >> okay, well, you've both made your cases very strongly. thank your cases very strongly. thank you very much indeed for your time. really appreciate it. ed swales, who is the chair of hunting kind, who is potentially taking this legal action to make pro fox hunters a protected characteristic, and also pip donovan, the founder of action against fox hunting. get your views in. they're already coming in thick and fast, really, but i think it is a fascinating it is actually it says more about the legislation doesn't it. >> well, absolutely. because it's about these parallels and perhaps the perhaps the sloppy way in which the equality act has actually been written. >> well, there you go , this is

>> well, there you go, this is good afternoon, britain. we're on gb news now. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. we're going to be talking to emma webber, the mother of barnaby webber , who died in the barnaby webber, who died in the nottingham attacks. first, though, a news update with sophia wenzler. >> emily thank you. it's 132. >> emily thank you. it's132. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. a 13 year old girl has become the latest youth to be convicted for her part in the widespread riots after admitting threatening unlawful violence outside a hotel housing asylum seekers. the teenager, who cannot be named due to her age, sat with her parents as she admitted the offence outside potters international hotel on the 31st of july. the crown prosecution service said she was seen punching and kicking the entrance to the hotel. she will be sentenced at basingstoke magistrates court on the 30th of september. the families of the

three nottingham stabbing victims have criticised mental health services who dealt with killer valdo calocane, saying they have blood on their hands. that's after a new review found an nhs trust played down kalakani's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis. calocane, who has paranoid schizophrenia, fatally stabbed 19 year old students barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar before killing 65 year old caretaker ian coates in june 2023. a man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11 year old girl was stabbed eight times in leicester square. the 32 year old romanian citizen johann pinochet, of no fixed address, has also been charged with possession of a bladed article . possession of a bladed article. art lovers were surprised at london zoo this morning as the latest banksy artwork has been unveiled. the gorilla is the ninth animal themed piece. the elusive street artist has

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>> okay. welcome back. it is now 138. now the families of the three nottingham stabbing victims barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates are criticising the mental health services who dealt with killer valdo calocane in the lead up to the attacks, saying they have blood on their hands. >> well, it says a review published today finds an nhs trust played down calocane's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including symptoms of psychosis. >> well, let's hear from the health secretary, wes streeting, who spoke a little earlier. >> what the care quality commission have uncovered is deeply distressing , most of all deeply distressing, most of all for the families of grace , for the families of grace, barnaby and ian, who in addition to having to deal with the unbearable and unimaginable grief they're going through, are doing so in the knowledge that this could have been prevented

and should have been prevented, that there wasn't a single point of failure, but multiple and fundamental failures on the part of the nhs to manage valdo calocane treatment in a way that not only kept him safe, but most importantly kept others safe . importantly kept others safe. >> that's why, in advance of the publication of this report, the nottinghamshire trust have already been acting to implement some of its findings and act on its recommendations, particularly in terms of the supervision of patients, medication and, crucially, discharge. >> and i've also ensured that what we've seen in the case of nottinghamshire results in action right across the country. nhs has already instructed trusts not to discharge patients who don't attend, which is what happened tragically in valdo calocane case. and there will be further action and i'll be seeking regular updates because we've heard so many times before, lessons must be learned. actually, what we need to see is lessons acted upon, not just for the benefit of people in

nottinghamshire, but right across the country . across the country. >> goodness me . well, delighted >> goodness me. well, delighted is the wrong word , but it is the wrong word, but it honoured, perhaps, to be joined by the by emma webber, the mother of the nottingham attack. nottingham attack victim barnaby webber. thank you so much for coming into the studio and it must be a pretty difficult day to be reliving it all and hearing, frankly, the repeated failures . that's what happened. failures. that's what happened. >> it's horrifying, isn't it? i mean, it's horrifying for people who are aware of the situation and have been following it for the past year or so, but yeah, being in being that family and, you know, hearing how many times that monster could have been stopped, by so many different individuals, departments and actually organisations, because it's not just the nhs , there's it's not just the nhs, there's leicestershire police force and in nottinghamshire police force who failed as well. but yeah, it's devastating.

>> and do you get the impression that there has been any accountability taken. do you believe that it is important for individuals who have been involved in some of these multiple failures to be named? >> absolutely. it's not a witch hunt, but when you read the reports, if anybody is reading the report or even reading the headlines, you can see that there was gross negligence , and there was gross negligence, and catastrophic failures which directly led to this individual not being treated properly, not being sectioned properly, even , being sectioned properly, even, and being released out into the community, if you're at that level, if you're a senior decision maker in the nhs, in, in medicine, i would say the same within police forces as well. and you don't do your job properly, then you have to be held to account. you have to be. and it's like i said already, it's not a witch hunt. but

without holding people to account, i don't think change will happen because this is as was said, it's happened again. it's happening again and again and again. and ever since bonnie was murdered, it's happened. how many times in this country have there been people can't put their children into holiday clubs without worrying. you can't put your child on the school bus without worrying. you can't walk through leicester square in broad daylight . you square in broad daylight. you know, it's so much has to change. it's not just mental health, but i think accountability for agencies who are public servants, who are there and employed and paid well to keep us safe and to keep us well, if they don't do their job, then yes, of course, training and all of that . but if training and all of that. but if you if you're at the top level, you if you're at the top level, you need to go. >> there were so many agencies involved with this and valdo calocane bounced between them . calocane bounced between them. and it's almost as if they weren't following up on their own work. it's almost as if,

because there were so many different agencies, it was always someone else's problem. yeah, there was always sort of thrown off to the end. oh, yeah, of the road. i mean , how is of the road. i mean, how is that? how is that fixed? i mean, accountability, i suppose is, is one avenue. >> i think it's i think it's an inqu >> i think it's i think it's an insult the way that we've been deau insult the way that we've been dealt with by quite a few of those agencies and the decision makers within their i would say there's some very narrow shoulders and some very long, pointy fingers, because that's what happens. the only route to getting these answers is a proper inquiry, because it's not just about this moment in time. this tragedy. it's about uncovering , the source of the uncovering, the source of the problems and actually fixing them properly. i many people aren't aware that the cqc report that came out today, this section 48 urgent review, that's the first time the cqc have ever been instructed to do a section

48 on an individual patient and his care. it's in the past that level of senior serious reporting and investigating is done into a hospital, a care home, a trust, you know, an organisation . so i think that organisation. so i think that just shows and what that's uncovered illustrates, so this process is a shock to the system then. >> yeah . not used to this level >> yeah. not used to this level of potential. potential accountability. >> yeah. and i think when the independent nhs england findings come out in the next month or two, they'll be even more because that goes a bit broader than the cqc. and as you said, it's about that . it's about it's about that. it's about that. where's the cohesion, where's the sort of joined up thinking, just doing your job properly? you know, in a hospital, especially in a mental health trust , there should be health trust, there should be a police liaison officer that is the conduit between the two. so dangerous people that have committed offences and are at risk, the public, the police are

aware of them. calocane had an outstanding warrant and he was released. yeah. i mean, who who got that so wrong? who was who was not doing their job properly. i understand resources, i understand limitations, i understand pressure, however, to the people that would say that to me, i would say, imagine losing your child in the most brutal, horrific way you would ever imagined. it's stuff of nightmares , and then come back nightmares, and then come back and say you think you're under pressure. pressure. >> i mean, reading, that a doctor had warned that this man could be a killer. i mean, how does that make you and the other families involved in this field just to know that there was this warning that this man could do something like this years before, sickening. >> right. it's sickening. and it's. i mean, my instinct would be to, to question and say, well, what did you do if you think someone's going to be, what did you do? but because we weren't given the opportunity to partake in the panorama,

documentary in any way, shape or form , we weren't able to put form, we weren't able to put anything on camera or off camera, behind the scenes, across to the team and there. i think there's some very big omissions in there. there's some inaccuracies and we're hugely disappointed with the panorama team and they know that now. >> but this is the panorama programme that aired last night. last night. yeah. and they spoke with the family, the calocane family . they sat down with them, family. they sat down with them, painted quite a sympathetic picture of, of the calocane family and spoke about their problems and, and, and, and the mental health side of things. it must have been . well, did did must have been. well, did did you watch it? did you were you able to see any of it or was it too hard? >> it's too brutal. >> it's too brutal. >> it's difficult maybe for most people to understand . but people to understand. but speaking quite frankly, as i've always done , to see the family always done, to see the family that brought that individual into our into this world and into our into this world and into our into this world and into our country is very traumatic to hear those voices. and as we feared, we were told

on the 26th of july, from nav, who is one of the bbc reporters involved in it, he was he was sort of on the programme a lot last night that this was done. it was in the can. it was with the lawyers. and that some of the lawyers. and that some of the big questions and whether you've asked are going to be answered. people that have never spoken before are going to speak on camera, including the calocane family. and that moment i can remember i was actually in the middle of taunton town centre speaking to him outside the bank and that's when you get that feeling that, oh, so the natural question is, okay, well, can i ask why we've not been at least made aware of this prior? or been asked to contribute or you know, or at least have our thoughts considered? and i was told that we were involved in the long form news piece that was done in january. that was very much our side of the opinion. and this is their side of the opinion. and, you know, i do think that the calocane family will have questions more

than last night to answer in due course. i don't want to personally attack them. i don't even want to think about that family. however, it is an insult that it comes across as they did. they really do everything, everything they could. do. >> you think it was right that they were given that platform? >> i don't think that it's so my background is, is media and communications and everything. so i'm all for investigative journalism, broadcasting. you know, it's there is a duty to the public. there's a duty to report, panorama didn't i don't believe , had a duty of care to believe, had a duty of care to us as families. i think it would have been a fairer, program and a better program had they spoken to us and fact checked some stuff with us. they said that we asked for an unduly lenient sentence. we didn't. that was the attorney general . that's the attorney general. that's significant because that you'd asked. yeah. last night on the programme, they reported that the families had had pushed for this unduly lenient sentence, which was a really awful trauma. in the spring of this year. that

wasn't us. that was the attorney general that called for that . general that called for that. >> it had to be almost relitigated looked at how it was gone through, and they decided that the original sentence, because they had to go with what they were presented with and what we've been uncovering. >> there's two words treatment resistant, which came up in the programme last night, and you'll hear a lot the, the, the chief doctor expert for the prosecution said in court at length for about 15 minutes that calocane is treatment resistant and therefore being so treatment resistant. he's so dangerous he can't be in a prison because he must be in a mental health institution, a secure institution, a secure institution, because the level of medication that he will need can't be given in a prison . and can't be given in a prison. and it's much, much more than that. and don't go into detail. so that's actually not true. he wasn't that makes it sound as though he was resistant and the treatment didn't work. no he was wasn't taking. no he was he was resisting treatment . so he was resisting treatment. so he was resisting treatment. so he was resisting taking the tablets. so he had his medication

occasionally. he'd taken it most of the time he didn't. but he tookit of the time he didn't. but he took it and he stockpiled it. he lied . he, he he pulled the wool lied. he, he he pulled the wool over many of the mental health professionals eyes to say that . professionals eyes to say that. and so for me, it's such an inqu and so for me, it's such an insult that we had to sit through that awful sentencing and hear that. and it's not true. yeah. >> i remember when it well, the whole of the country was , was whole of the country was, was watching and listening to the sentencing then and to hear manslaughter, excruciating. i can't imagine how you would have felt at the time. but looking forward with this public inquiry, what are you hoping to come out of that? >> okay, so we've been assured of the public inquiry, but what's really, really important is that it has to be statutory judge led inquiry, because that's the only way that the people involved in all of this. right. the way from right, the way to will have to give evidence and we'll have to give the truth . so that has to happen. >> otherwise, could they dodge it? yeah. >> i mean, for example, iopc do

investigations, police officers that are interviewed for that can give a no comment answer. how's that helpful to uncovering things? we're not on a witch hunt as i keep saying, but what we have to do is get answers. and the big questions like so. so talk about drugs. we talked about the medication for schizophrenia. what about drugs ? schizophrenia. what about drugs? drugs? no one has ever tested him for drugs that we can see. so if you're sectioned four times you've got you're in psychosis . why know that we've psychosis. why know that we've been able to find the police didn't bother doing it. they did full toxicology on my son, but they didn't take any toxicology on calocane. they took it on grace. they took it on ian. this is a whole different thing. but that's why we have to have the pubuc that's why we have to have the public inquiry, because we have to get these answers . because if to get these answers. because if it's the last thing i do on this earth, and i would say the same for, for grace and ian's family , for, for grace and ian's family, we will make sure this happens. >> reading around this case, seeing the multiple flats that valdo calocane had broken into

in the years prior. oh yeah, the woman who jumped from a fourth third story window to flee for her life all before he was still able to roam the streets, not locked up , not put able to roam the streets, not locked up, not put in a able to roam the streets, not locked up , not put in a secure locked up, not put in a secure hospital prison behind bars just away. yeah, i, i wasn't aware until until today. >> most people aren't some. it's eye—watering of the scale of his history of offending. he's the most dangerous . it was always most dangerous. it was always going to happen. that's why i questioned some of the things that were said by his family last night. he the girl that that that jumped out to save her life. she suffered spinal injuries . she was probably too injuries. she was probably too scared. i don't know , making scared. i don't know, making making assumptions. but he wasn't prosecuted for that. the cps should have prosecuted him. that's in the public interest. we sat in a meeting with the cps and asked about all the various offences, all the times he'd been arrested before, why he hadnt been arrested before, why he hadn't been charged, and we were

told by sam shallows of the cps in east midlands because it wasn't in the public interest. well yeah, it was actually, goodness me. >> well, thank you so much. yeah. for coming in to the studio today. it must be an extremely difficult day and just you're an inspiration in terms of the being such an advocate for your for your child , thank for your for your child, thank you very much indeed. we really appreciate your time. >> well this is good afternoon britain on gb news. there's lots more to come up in the show. we're going to be right around the country. so please do not go anywhere. not least catching up with mark white with the latest from dover. we'll be there after this . this. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news hello. good afternoon . news hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. cloudy and breezy through the rest of today across western areas but warm and sunny in the east. there will be some rain for some areas as well, particularly where we

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>> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on tuesday the 13th of august. i'm tom harwood and i'm emily carver a gb news exclusive. 5000 migrants will today cross the channel in small boats. since labour came to power that threshold being passed despite a promise to smash the gangs, arrivals are accelerating. what exactly is number ten's plan? >> a 32 year old romanian citizen? pintauro, of no fixed address, has been charged with stabbing a girl eight times in leicester square. we're outside westminster magistrates court and the bbc is under fire after

the state broadcaster was accused of airing a sympathetic portrait of the nottingham triple killer valdo calocane . triple killer valdo calocane. well, lots of you have been getting in touch, well, to show your support, sympathy, empathy with emma webber there, the mum of barnaby webber, one of the victims of valdo calocane , she's victims of valdo calocane, she's such a brave woman. absolutely and such a fantastic advocate for her son, the way she holds herself, the way she won't let go of this. she's going to continue until changes are made. >> and she's already won that inquiry . she's now fighting to inquiry. she's now fighting to make it. judge led so that witnesses can be compelled so that people can't lie. they'll have to swear on oath. if. of course, it's all all judge led, she's really fighting for the

truth to be heard and for lessons as as wes streeting the health secretary was saying a little bit earlier today. not just that lessons are learned. it's always said lessons are learned. no lessons need to be acted upon , acted upon the way acted upon, acted upon the way she's furious, but also so constructive and forward looking in, trying to improve the situation for other people. >> she spoke about other horrific crimes that we've seen on the streets of the uk, and how so often we find out that they've been through mental health facilities in this country. they may have been sectioned in the past but allowed to, you know, roam free in this country and they'll have had brushes with law enforcement. >> no doubt, and we spoke about all of the different instances , all of the different instances, oven all of the different instances, over, over the last. well, it's been over a year since, since the nottingham attacks now, but time and time again we see more and more attacks. >> yeah, i think lady jess sums it up. what a courageous lady. very dignified. i hope she gets the justice deserved for her

son. so sad the people involved letting this monster out on the street should be investigated. i think a lot of people would agree with you. there has to be some sense of accountability. you can't just say, oh, it's the nhs fault or it's one agency's fault. oh, it's the police's fault. oh, it's the police's fault. oh, it's this or that or the other. the criminal justice system , whatever. it's important system, whatever. it's important to know exactly how these decisions were made and who made them. i think. >> yeah. well keep your thoughts coming in. gb news.com forward slash. your say is the way to get involved. but that's got a very busy programme for you after your news headlines with severe . severe. >> tom emily thank you. good afternoon. it's 2:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the health secretary has said the deaths of barnaby webber. grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates at the hands of valdo calocane could have been prevented . wes could have been prevented. wes streeting was reacting to the findings of a review of

calocane's death care. the review found an nhs trust played down calocane's risk to the pubuc down calocane's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis, what the care quality commission have uncovered is deeply distressing , uncovered is deeply distressing, most of all, for the families of grace , barnaby and ian, who, in grace, barnaby and ian, who, in addition to having to deal with the unbearable and unimaginable grief they're going through, are doing so in the knowledge that this could have been prevented and should have been prevented , and should have been prevented, that there wasn't a single point of failure. >> but multiple and fundamental failures on the part of the nhs to manage valdo calocane treatment in a way that not only kept him safe, but most importantly kept others safe . importantly kept others safe. >> now, a 13 year old girl has become the latest youth to be convicted for her part in the widespread riots after admitting threatening unlawful violence outside a hotel housing asylum seekers. the teenager, who

cannot be named due to her age, sat with her parents as she admitted the offence outside potters international hotel on the 31st of july. the crown prosecution service said she was seen punching and kicking the entrance to the hotel. she will be sentenced at basingstoke magistrates court on the 30th of september. a man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11 year old girl was stabbed eight times in leicester square. the 32 year old romanian citizen johann pinato , of no fixed address, pinato, of no fixed address, also has been charged with possession of a bladed article. it was initially thought that the girl's mother had also been hurt. however, it was later confirmed that blood from her daughter's injuries had been mistaken for her own. officers in kent searching for a missing girl from sittingbourne have released cctv images believed to show her in canterbury. 12 year old katie spice was reported missing after last being seen in sittingbourne high street at 4

pm. on sunday. the 11th of august. police have now released a cctv image believed to show katie getting off a train at canterbury east railway station shortly after 5 pm, wearing black leggings and a pink top. police are urging anyone with information to come forward . information to come forward. nearly 5000 small boat migrants have crossed the channel since labour came to power. that's as former head of border force tony smith told gb news that sir keir starmer's plans to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve. >> we expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs, if you like, without some form of international collaboration where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice and to prevent people and goods crossing borders , etc, and goods crossing borders, etc, rather than the uk being able to do this on their own. >> now, in the us, donald trump has called joe biden's decision

to quit the presidential race race a coup. during a talk with tech billionaire elon musk, the interview finally got underway on x, with more than 1.3 million people tuning in after a delay, which musk blamed on a cyber attack. trump confirmed he will return to butler in pennsylvania in october after surviving an assassination attempt there. the us presidential candidate also criticised the eu and his democratic opponent kamala harris. >> i can tell you is this we cannot have a democrat. we cannot have a democrat. we cannot have a democrat. we cannot have her. she's incompetent. she's as bad as biden in a different yeah, he hasn't done an interview since this whole, scam started. and say what? you want. this was a coup. this was a coup of a president of the united states. he didn't want to leave. and they said, we can do it the nice way, or we can do it the hard way, or we can do it the hard way . way. >> an inquest into the death of former england cricketer graham thorpe has opened today after his wife revealed the sportsman

tragically took his own life. the inquest heard graham thorpe died after being struck by a train at a railway station in surrey . tributes flooded in for surrey. tributes flooded in for the late cricketer after his death on august the 5th. his family have since revealed he had been suffering from depression and anxiety , and art depression and anxiety, and art lovers were surprised at the london zoo this morning as the latest banksy artwork has been revealed. the gorilla is the ninth animal themed piece. the elusive street artist has claimed. in nine days. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:08 now. gb news can exclusively reveal nearly 5000 small boat migrants have crossed the english channel since labour came to power. >> yes, this comes as the former head of border force told this channel that sir keir starmer's plans to smash the gangs will be very difficult to achieve and rely on the complete co—operation of many, many other countries. >> well, our home and security editor mark white reports from the compound, where many hundreds of seized small boats are now stored at a compound on the outskirts of dover. >> a sobering illustration of the scale of the task facing the new labour government in their efforts to end the channel migrant crisis. row after row of small boats, hundreds of them , small boats, hundreds of them, many now deflated and rolled up as we filmed, contractors dropped off more dinghies, the latest to have made the illegal crossing into uk waters . this

latest to have made the illegal crossing into uk waters. this is for rishi sunak. crossing into uk waters. this is for rishi sunak . sir keir for rishi sunak. sir keir starmer's focus is on going after the people smugglers, who have now sent thousands more migrants across the channel since labour came to power. but the former head of border force says tackling international criminal gangs will be extremely difficult without full co—operation from many other governments. >> these are very, very big. ask i think, to expect the uk to be able to smash the gangs. if you like , without some form of like, without some form of international collaboration where powers can be used by other countries on their jurisdictions to bring people to justice to and prevent people and goods crossing borders, etc. rather than the uk being able to do this on their own. >> tony smith says there is no indication so far that the appetite of the smugglers and their customers has been in any way diminished since labour came to power.

>> this is a hugely lucrative business. there is an unending supply of migrants pervading the eu border, many of whom are in various member states very keen to get across to the uk, who are prepared to mortgage their lives effectively to get a place on a very dangerous vessel to get themselves into uk territorial waters. that narrative still exists, i think across europe and beyond . so the pull factor and beyond. so the pull factor is very much there for now. >> at least. the migrant boats will continue to stack up here, as even the government acknowledges it will take some time for its new approach to impact the organised criminal gangs making millions from their trade in human misery. mark white gb news >> just astonishing to see those hundreds of boats, but mark white gb news homeland security editor joins us now from dover. and mark, what's the situation been on the channel this morning ?

been on the channel this morning? >> well there was a bit of activity this morning when a boat absolutely packed out with migrants left dunkirk. it had come down the river in dunkirk , come down the river in dunkirk, which is a tactic that the people smugglers often employ. they take a boat with just a few people down the river, out into the sea, and then dozens more wade into the sea and jump on the boat. but it was absolutely packed out to the extent that it just didn't make any headway. it tried for a couple of hours to get properly out into the channel get properly out into the channel, but didn't succeed and turn back. but we know because we've seen it for six years now, that those that don't get through today will try tomorrow or the next day, but eventually they'll probably get through. >> so mark, essentially those boats that are failing to make it across is in part because they're so overloaded at this

stage . stage. >> yes. and it has been a bit choppy in the middle of the channel. we've had a bit of wind which whips up the waves, and then it can take a while, even when the winds die down for the waves to subside. but what we're told is that tomorrow is more likely to be sort of flat calm, even out in the middle of the channel. and we are then likely to see significant numbers of small boats pushed out by the people smugglers and some of those will make it to that halfway point into uk waters, where the routine , of course, where the routine, of course, much to the annoyance of many people understandably, is border force waiting for those boats, picking them up and then taking them right here to dover harbour . them right here to dover harbour. >> and mark, is it fair to say that we're experiencing an increase now in small boat

crossings ? crossings? >> no, we definitely are. there's no doubt about it. but that's probably more to do with just the season we're in in the hot summer months , where it is hot summer months, where it is much calmer in the channel than traditionally. of course, over recent years we've seen a big upsurge in the numbers coming across and that's no different this year. it doesn't matter who is in office. but of course, sir keir starmer now in office, is finding out the hard way just how difficult it will be to get to grips with this small boat crisis. now, as far as sir keir starmer is concerned, he has maybe tied himself to the same hostage to fortune that rishi sunak did in terms of pledging to stop the boats and tying himself to the rwanda scheme well in the run up to the election. so keir starmer was adamant that the way forward was to smash the gangs. that's his mantra that he still repeats. so

let's see in the months ahead how successful that endeavour will be. but everything i've seen over recent years tells me it will be enormously difficult to actually make any meaningful impact on those criminal gangs who are highly organised, who are making many millions of poundsin are making many millions of pounds in a good week in the engush pounds in a good week in the english channel, and they have international reach. and as a uk law enforcement agency , it's law enforcement agency, it's very difficult to work in any meaningful way in these other countries unless you have very well—rehearsed co—operation between other governments that are going to allow british law enforcement operatives to are going to allow british law enforceneditorperatives to z are going to allow british law enforceneditor there. es to z are going to allow british law enforceneditor there. thank , you. >> we're going across to westminster now, where the shadow security minister and conservative leadership candidate, tom tugendhat, is about to give what he's billing

as a pretty seminal speech. he's expected to call for a national conversation on the underlying causes of those recent riots we saw and the rising criminality on our streets. so, yes , we are on our streets. so, yes, we are viewing that live. >> this is the room where he is due to speak any minute now. but let's get the latest from our . let's get the latest from our. okay. well, he's expected to say that there's been a bit of a, a culture of denial that moves on too quickly from acts of serious violence without addressing, as tom said, these underlying causes and the identity and motives of the perpetrators. so it looks as though he's going to get stuck in to the discourse around the recent riots. perhaps he'll address concerns over immigration or poverty, deprivation, illegal migration, migrant hotels ? i'm not sure. absolutely. >> our very own home, our very own political editor, christopher hope, is there in

the audience for us. but this is , the audience for us. but this is, of course, one of these rare events, i suppose, on what has seemed to be a very stuttering conservative leadership campaign. we know that it lasts for many, many months. there's only going to be two of the six candidates whittled out before the before october. and but here is tom tugendhat. let's listen in. >> good afternoon my friends. good afternoon everyone . i want good afternoon everyone. i want to get straight to the point. the disorder we have seen on our streets in the past two weeks is completely unacceptable. every single perpetrator and instigator must be investigated, prosecuted and severely punished . prosecuted and severely punished. and as a country , we have some and as a country, we have some serious soul searching ahead of

us. it would be easy to take solace, as we so often do at moments like these, in the small acts of kindness , of service and acts of kindness, of service and humanity, amid the anger, pain and destruction . the people who and destruction. the people who ran towards danger to shield those innocent little girls who were attacked by a knifeman. the courageous police officers who stood firm against the malicious mob, against the thugs and rioters . the volunteers who rioters. the volunteers who picked up the pieces swept streets and quite literally mended fences and walls . they mended fences and walls. they protected and restored that old principle of law and order. the king's peace . it's true that all

king's peace. it's true that all those people deserve our gratitude and respect. and of course, they do represent the best of us. but we cannot use these rays of sunshine to ignore those whose actions reflect the very worst of our society . the very worst of our society. the racist thugs who attacked a mosque in southport. racist thugs who attacked a mosque in southport . the mosque in southport. the sectarian gang who burned down a muslim owned shop in belfast. the mob who set fire to a hotel housing migrants in rotherham. we need to ask ourselves how we got here and what we must do about it . too often over the about it. too often over the last two decades or more, we have avoided being brutally honest about the underlying social unrest across society, preferring instead the warmth and false comfort of denial and

complacency. bombs have been detonated and we've moved on. attempted terror attacks have gone without much comment. wicked and violent crimes have taken place with little said or done. taken place with little said or done . in may, a nine year old done. in may, a nine year old girl was shot in a drive by attack in london. two weeks later , three little girls aged later, three little girls aged six, seven and nine, roughly the age of my own children, were stabbed to death as they danced to taylor swift in southport . to taylor swift in southport. the nile has taken many forms, from displacement to forgetfulness. my friend sir david amess was murdered nearly three years ago by a fanatical islamist. and instead we found ourselves , for no related ourselves, for no related reason, debating online civility. and then four years ago, three gay men were murdered

in an unprovoked attack in a park in reading. and we were told that we would debate what happened and why after the trial . happened and why after the trial. by happened and why after the trial. by the time the attacker was in prison, the country had moved on.and prison, the country had moved on. and of course, we never did have that conversation. sometimes the problem is partisanship. those who should know better are blinded by politics and fail to respect the hard won british right of equality before the law . after equality before the law. after the attack on those little girls in southport, nigel farage claimed the truth is being withheld from us. later, he justified amplifying this false information by saying he had believed influences like andrew tate and chose to condemn the breakdown of law and order preceding the riots, but not the

riots themselves. now, i want to be clear this is not leadership. it is deeply irresponsible and dangerous. later, when gangs of masked men gathered in birmingham brandishing weapons and live on camera, threatened female journalists and attempted to slash the tires of broadcast vans, jess phillips, a home office minister, chose to justify their behaviour instead of condemning it because these were not far right hooligans, but young muslim men . one man but young muslim men. one man attacked by these vigilantes ended up in hospital . this was ended up in hospital. this was a failure of leadership, just as surely as that of nigel farage. and it is not the only failure of leadership by keir starmer's government over these last two weeks. today i want to talk about the future of our police and criminal justice system and

the problems we face with violence, extremism and social trust . this violence, extremism and social trust. this isn't violence, extremism and social trust . this isn't about the trust. this isn't about the state. this is about who we are as a society. but first, i want to consider the issue of leadership. this has been the government's first real test, and the prime minister fell short when we needed a strong government. we got a party in the mindset of opposition . we the mindset of opposition. we needed a leader. we got a lawyer waiting for the case to reach court. these are early days for the government. and government isn't easy, but government isn't a game either. it is more than press releases and retweets, and you can't be wise with hindsight. something labour mastered in opposition. you have to be determined and aware throughout. you have to be ready to do the job from day one. pubuc to do the job from day one. public order is too precious to

essential to all of us to be taken for granted . i have taken for granted. i have personally seen the cost of failure too often around the world, and know that we simply cannot afford to allow chaos to grow, but peace and order does not come about spontaneously. it's made possible by the rule of law , reliable justice, and of law, reliable justice, and the willingness to use force where necessary. it rests upon intangible assets, social trust, reciprocity , respect for the reciprocity, respect for the fairness of the law and the knowledge that we all have a stake in our shared security. as conservatives, we understand that order is not the product of freedom. rather, our freedom depends on order. none of us are bystanders . we don't have that bystanders. we don't have that luxury once lost. public order can be difficult to regain, and social unrest can rear its head ,

social unrest can rear its head, which is why the police response to disorder must always be swift and determined . for officers on and determined. for officers on the street policing a violent crowd is a dangerous job. we sometimes hear of the need to go softly, softly and to make arrests later. but visible lawlessness is radicalising. it encourages others to join in and to commit crime . this was to commit crime. this was a problem that reared its head dunng problem that reared its head during the pro—palestine marches. as security minister, i constantly had to encourage the police to make arrests on the day as crimes were being committed, rather than waiting until after the protest had finished. once people crossed the line, they need to be met with immediate and uncompromising force . uncompromising force. sophisticated capabilities need to be deployed, of course, and instigators need to be made an example of. but on the street , example of. but on the street, sheer numbers, physical force and a willingness to deploy it

determine whether order prevails or not. during a time of national disorder, the police need the total backing of the government in substance, not just in rhetoric . just in rhetoric. >> tom tugendhat there, the shadow security minister setting out what he sees as failures, failures of institutions, but indeed of the public as well in terms of trust in institutions and how we can handle the security and what, frankly , security and what, frankly, feels like a breakdown in security in this country. >> yes. very interesting that he's chosen to centre his first speech in this leadership campaign on the recent disorder and some of the failings there that he sees. but we're going to speak to gb news political correspondent, i should remind you that our political editor is there in the room, and he'll be asking a question very shortly. but first, let's get the reaction from political correspondent olivia utley. olivia, thank you very much indeed. tom tugendhat talking about a culture of denial, a

culture of denial. >> those are tom tugendhat words in that speech earlier today. i mean, this is tom tugendhat , one mean, this is tom tugendhat, one of his many pitches for the leadership, as we've seen before from tom tugendhat. he seems to be trying to, to, to, to get the sort of centre ground in the conservative party. he was critical of keir starmer there for failing to act swiftly enough for failing to be harsh enough for failing to be harsh enough on the rioters. but he also talked there about some of the motives for violent crimes and the way that britain sometimes moves on too quickly from violent crimes and brushes the motives under the carpet, which i think we can be, which can read as a as a quite a, a subtle, a bit of a veiled hint that he thinks that we of the conver about immigration, which so far doesn't seem to be having . this doesn't seem to be having. this is also a pitch by the conservatives to kind of get back that ground of law and order. traditionally, the conservative party were the

party which was stronger on policing and law and order. but over the course of the election , over the course of the election, we saw that all turn around. in fact, it became clear that keir starmer was more popular with the public on issues of policing, and that was buried out in poll after poll. tom tugendhat, as the former security minister, clearly thinks that he is in a place to talk now about sort of traditional policing, respect for the police, respect for the institutions, all of these traditional conservative ideas which were seemingly lost in the last few years of the previous government here. >> it's interesting that the number of targets in this speech going after nigel farage, also going after nigel farage, also going after nigel farage, also going after starmer, saying when we needed a leader, we had a lawyer. and that's one of the lines that will stick. but perhaps one of the ones that i felt was was most, pertinent was when he spoke about his friend, sir david amess david amess, of course, murdered by islamist

terrorist three years ago , he terrorist three years ago, he pointed out. tom tugendhat pointed out. tom tugendhat pointed out. tom tugendhat pointed out that in the wake of that islamist terror, we started talking about whether people should be nice to each other online. again, moving away from the substance of what went on into perhaps the comfort ground of politicians . of politicians. >> i thought that was a very powerful point from tom tugendhat to i think it struck a lot of people around the country as strange that so quickly after david amess murder, the conversation shifted to safety onune conversation shifted to safety online rather than the actual motives of the murderer. and thatis motives of the murderer. and that is something which tugendhat is clearly very keen to pick up on. the idea that britain too often sort of brushes the motives of violent crimes under the carpet. and, you know, you could argue in another way that that that this is the same as what's happening now. we're having the riots. why are those riots happening, the far right riots. we're seeing people on the streets furious

about immigration. and yet again , about immigration. and yet again, it's sort of the other side of the same coin. we're not talking about the causes behind those riots , the root of why they are riots, the root of why they are happening at all. so that is something which tom tugendhat seems to be willing to address head on. as you say, tom, there were a lot of targets in this speech from nigel farage to keir starmer. it seems as though what tom tugendhat is wanting at the moment is to get enough support from conservative mps who on the whole , that rump of the whole, that rump of the conservative party that is left tend to sway a little bit more towards the centre of the party. so it looks as though tugendhat is hoping to pick up some of those votes which will get him. but hopefully for him onto that final two of the ballot paper. now, what happens from there is a is a very different story because as we've seen time and again, the conservative membership, those voters at home who signed up to the conservative party tend to be more on the right of the party than their counterparts in the parliamentary party. so at the

moment, kemi badenoch is the front runner and tom tugendhat, for now is languishing a few places behind . places behind. >> very interesting. thank you very much. olivia utley. our political correspondent there from westminster , i mean, he may from westminster, i mean, he may well have have had some worthy things to say and some sensible things to say and some sensible things to say about the situation. it'sjust things to say about the situation. it's just a question of whether, you know, the oomph is there. >> i don't know why he was doing it. standing in front of a brown paper bag as well. >> i mean, the aesthetics weren't there, i don't think. not that that's what should m atter. >> matter. >> a nice oak panelled room, a nice oak panelled room. >> yes, that would be nice anyway. the trivial focusing on the trivial. there a little politics is trivial. politics can be very trivial . can be very trivial. >> yeah. communication, communication, communication. >> you had to sort out his , his, >> you had to sort out his, his, placards, didn't he ? his material. >> yes. he did this. material. >> yes. he did this . this is, >> yes. he did this. this is, his original was something rude? it was unite. revive deliver. but his name's tom, so it

spelled t u r d o. but his name's tom, so it spelled t u r d 0. he changed it from deliver to win. so it's it now doesn't say turd. turd yes. that that was that was the unfortunate, initial logo for tom tugendhat campaign, >> well, that's enough of that because we've got lots more coming up on today's show, get this. three white police officers have won a discrimination case. an employment judge has ruled that they were passed over for promotion because of their race. cufious promotion because of their race. curious this is more on that. after your headlines . after your headlines. >> it's 232. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. the health secretary has said the deaths of barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates at the hands of valdo calocane could have been prevented. wes streeting was reacting to the findings of a review of calocane's care. the review of calocane's care. the review found an nhs trust played down his risk to the public by

potentially omitting key details, including his symptoms of psychosis. >> what the care quality commission have uncovered is deeply distressing, most of all for the families of grace barnaby and ian , who in addition barnaby and ian, who in addition to having to deal with the unbearable and unimaginable grief they're going through , are grief they're going through, are doing so in the knowledge that this could have been prevented and should have been prevented, that there wasn't a single point of failure , but multiple and of failure, but multiple and fundamental failures on the part of the nhs to manage valdo calocane treatment in a way that not only kept him safe, but most importantly kept others safe . importantly kept others safe. >> a man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11 year old girl was stabbed eight times in leicester square. the 32 year old romanian citizen johan pinto, of no fixed address, has also been charged with possession of a bladed article . a 13 year old girl has article. a 13 year old girl has become the latest youth to be

convicted for her part in the widespread riots after admitting threatening unlawful violence outside a hotel. asylum seekers were staying in. the teenager, who cannot be named due to her age, sat with her parents as she admitted the offence outside potters international hotel on the 31st of july. she will be sentenced at basingstoke magistrates court on the 30th of september. the uk unemployment rate has surprisingly fallen, to according official figures. data from the office for national statistics shows the percentage of people who were out of work and looking for a job dropped to 4.2% in july. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. sam francis will have more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts

>> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:37. now the families of the three nottingham stabbing victims barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates are criticising the mental health services who dealt with killer valdo calocane in the lead up to those attacks, saying they've got blood on their hands . they've got blood on their hands. >> yes it has. a review of published today finds an nhs trust played down calocane's risk to the public by potentially omitting key details, including the symptoms of his psychosis. now emma webber, barnaby's mother, spoke to us a little bit earlier. have a listen. >> you read reports if anybody is reading the report or even reading the headlines, you can see that there was gross negligence, and catastrophic failures which directly to led this individual not being treated properly, not being sectioned properly, even, and

being released out into the community, if you're at that level, if you're a senior decision maker in the nhs, in, in medicine, i would say the same within police forces as well. and you don't do your job properly, then you have to be held to account. >> well, it was , it was moving >> well, it was, it was moving to hear what emma webber had to say. and if you want to catch the whole interview, it's available on the gb news youtube channel. >> absolutely. and i must say, there's been a deluge of messages saying how remarkable, emma webber is and how much of a fantastic advocate she's been for her son. lots of you saying that, valdo calocane should not have been out on the streets at all and should have been locked up many years ago, but there you go. now we're going to move on because three white police officers have won a discrimination case after an employment judge ruled that they were passed over for promotion because of their race, because they were white. >> well, the officers argued that thames valley police had

deliberately overlooked them to boost its diversity in senior ranks. >> yes, the tribunal heard that a superintendent from the force was told to make it happen by appointing an asian sergeant to the rank of detective inspector. >> goodness me. joining us now to discuss this is the director of don't divide us now, alka sehgal. cuthbert, alka, i struggle to get my head around this. i mean, it sounds , like this. i mean, it sounds, like a sort of crackpot conspiracy theory , but this. this is theory, but this. this is according to the employment tribunal, verbatim. truth >> yes, yes, i mean, i think it's, the logical result of, that years of, policy making and, governance or lack of governance. i should say, where whereby, you know, the state effectively has been fragmented , effectively has been fragmented, so there's no accountability in the way you, you know, emma webber was just referring to and

what we've had instead is increasing attempts to impose ideological conformity through eqtu ideological conformity through equity , diversity and inclusion, equity, diversity and inclusion, multiculturalism and, identity politics. so, you know, i'm really glad that these men have won their case because it's no more right that they should not be, that they should be excluded because of their skin colour, despite all their experience. thenit despite all their experience. then it would be were the ethnicities reversed . but the ethnicities reversed. but the point is, underneath this is sitting a whole, a whole kind of multitude of confusion and fragmentation where divisions along ethnic lines are being normalised in all aspects of our lives, including primary schools, there's a real kind of rejection and a stigmatisation of anyone who wants to question the goods of multiculturalism and argue instead for a more integrationist policy and outlook that's considered to be racist by many, and it's

increasingly clear. clear, as i said before, that you know, the state, you know, this this employment tribunal is the recourse to employment tribunals, which have increased and often people blame the 2010 equality act. but that wasn't really the cause of it. you know, the fragmentation had happened long before, and that officialised a way of treating social relationships. according to tick box identities. that's just been so corrosive and it obscures it legitimises the kind of rejection of established procedures of accountability, of selection, of meritocracy that most people of a certain generation have become used to. >> that's what that's why i'm that's why i'm surprised that these, police officers actually won their case. because surely under the equality act, i don't i don't remember being white, being a protected characteristic. it is. is it? yes it is, it is. >> and nationality is. >> and nationality is. >> oh, there you go. prove me

wrong. put me in my place. >> the thing is, is that what it was won on was the fact that the police had. not really, made their case that this was a proportionate way of dealing to get to a legitimate aim, that's the kind of caveat in the equality act that is all too often ignored. and it needs to, you know, i mean, really the whole equality act needs a proper review of there's lots of places in it which are very conceptually and logically baggy and are being utilised by activists and people who reject the idea of, of a us being a, well, a united nation, you know, a kind of a people of all colours and all ethnicities and sexualities and what have you, who can still share a love of country and that's, you know, like such a big no no today. i think that forms a backdrop and against which, you know, and people in their frustration, we can't rely on, you know, just from making a phone call to the gp to never mind emma webber's

case of trying to complain about the, you know , the heinous the, you know, the heinous culpability of the state in their treatment of them and the murderer, their patent and increasing inability to actually do anything in any effective way causes frustrations. and we will see more recourse to lawfare in this situation. and that might offer individuals some benefit. but it's not a way of organising or ruling society, really. it's very potentially very divisive. >> so how do we move on from here then ? here then? >> well, i think we it's there's no easy solution. i do think though that we need you know, we really do need to be clear that we need to reject identity politics in our public institutions because the public institutions because the public institutions is where most of the mistrust, most of the difficulties and, sources of grievance on all sides is being cultivated as being bred. so

they need to be taken in hand, but , you know, in they need to be taken in hand, but, you know, in a they need to be taken in hand, but , you know, in a way that but, you know, in a way that really kind of looks at first principles, you know, can we leave the job of, of social solidarity and political and changing the culture to ordinary citizens in politics? that's what we're here to do. that's what we're here to do. that's what politics is for. and can we look at the institutions and think, get them back to their first principles, you know, instead of them, instead of your doctor, instead of your teacher, instead of your bus driver trying to it seems our institutions often there for some kind of social engineering rather than their principal job of whatever it is. >> also, we're going to have to leave it there, but really appreciate your input on this story. alka sehgal, cuthbert director of don't divide us . story. alka sehgal, cuthbert director of don't divide us. i mean, as if okay, so you're told all we need to have more diversity in this police force. oh, i know to what do. just don't promote these candidates because they're white. i mean, is that seriously the best they can do to try and make the police force more diverse and yet just chop off your legs, just, you know, and yet what we

have, what we've constructed in this bizarre sort of way in this country is law. >> and expectation that you must have the most diverse and balanced senior teams, but you're not allowed to use quotas to get there. how are you supposed to? i mean, you're going to be you're going to be criticised and punished if you don't arrive at a certain outcome, but you can't use quotas to get there. have fun. >> i mean, tom, try and go for a pubuc >> i mean, tom, try and go for a public sector job. you >> i mean, tom, try and go for a public sectorjob. you have to public sector job. you have to fill in, you know, sheets of paper with all your different characteristics and everything. >> if you appear on who wants to tell their employer that about their sexuality, if you appear on a bbc programme, you have to fill out the forms and ticking all these different boxes so that they can fill their their requirements. >> you need to know if you're 93!!- >> you need to know if you're gay. they need to know if you're, your race, your ethnicity, you know, where your grandma lived. i don't know. anyway, coming up, we'll talk to a former army officer who has argued the current ukrainian offensive will harm russia in three ways. what are they

>> good afternoon. britain. it's coming up to 10 to 3 now. president zelenskyy ukrainian president zelenskyy ukrainian president zelenskyy ukrainian president zelenskyy that is has warned the vladimir putin, that warned the vladimir putin, that war is coming home as ukraine's surprise assault into russia continues . continues. >> thousands have been forced to flee their homes, with the incursion being the first time russia has ceded territory to a foreign power since the second world war. now, writing in the telegraph, our next guest has argued the current ukrainian move will harm putin in at least three ways. >> well, what are they ? well, i >> well, what are they? well, i want to know. i've got some guesses, but why don't we ask the man himself, the former british army officer hamish de bretton—gordon gordon, hamish. three ways. enlighten us. >> yeah. hi. >> yeah. hi. >> good afternoon. before i go into the three ways, i think the

other really important thing that this counter move has done has shown how incredibly poor the russian military are. the only thing slowing down the invasion at the moment is the amount of russian soldiers who are actually surrendering. >> and the other element is it shows the chain of command, in other words, how those troops are actually directed is so poon are actually directed is so poor. in fact, it would appear that president putin is virtually the only one that anybody will listen to , which anybody will listen to, which eight days into this invasion, there is yet to be a counterattack by the russians, which is shocking, but i think you know what i've written about in the telegraph. you know, the real impact it's going to have is, firstly, it's going to the russians are going to have to divert troops, you know , this divert troops, you know, this this is a hugely impressive counter move by the ukrainians. i think, quotes are 6000km2 of russia are now in ukrainians hands and russia is really, you

know, really pushed in this war, although there's 600,000 troops in ukraine, most of them are conscripts, most of them are untrained and whatever the russian bots and the propaganda coming out of russia is saying russia is holding on by its fingernails. russia is holding on by its fingernails . the second thing russia is holding on by its fingernails. the second thing is the destabilising impact on the russian people . as you said in russian people. as you said in your intro, this is the first time russia's been invaded since hitler , since the nazis in the hitler, since the nazis in the second world war. and putin, you know, the public in russia have been fed on a diet of putin's military brilliance. but we're now seeing i mean, of course, he's not a soldier. he's a spy. so a lot of his decisions are too not unsurprising, but he can't even protect, you know, mother russia and the third element is kursk itself, you know , kursk was the great battle know, kursk was the great battle in 1943, which in effect , in 1943, which in effect, changed the whole shape of the

war. and was really the beginning of the end for hitler and curse, the battle of kursk, which hundreds of thousands of russians perished in, is in the dna of russian people, it is absolutely. you know, there, there it's the trafalgar of the british navy. it's the waterloo, it's the el alamein of the british, you know, army. so it is absolutely ingrained. and this is and the other element to this is and the other element to this is and the other element to this is that it's now been reported in the media. in russia. people are suddenly waking up and thinking, crikey, the special military operation that putin was going to, you know, regain for ukraine us has actually gone completely the other way. and people are now realising all these body bags coming back. you know, it is true, the fact that they're having the ruble is worth absolute peanuts is because of putin's ineptness. so putin himself i think is clinging on. and it's absolutely important. i think i may have said at the

beginning, attack is the best form of defence, but they must keep going. they must keep the pressure on, and they can only do that if we keep supporting them. and it's a chance for our new leader to show his mettle and absolutely give the ukrainians everything they need , ukrainians everything they need, because peace in europe actually is the most important threat to our security. and we really need to back it with everything we've got. >> well, hamish, we're going to have to leave it there, but you've covered a lot of ground with your answer there. really appreciate your expertise on this, hamish de bretton—gordon, who, of course, is a former british army officer. yeah. seems as though this is a very what appears to be a good move from ukraine for now. anyway >> goodness me. looking forward to seeing what's going. we've run to the end of the show. i can't believe it. tsitsipas completely gone away hoping we could talk to hamish for a little longer, but at the end of the show. >> so there you go. >> so there you go. >> well, of course martin daubney is up next. he's from three until six, so stick around for that. but before all of that, it's the weather with annie shuttleworth .

annie shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb. news hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. cloudy and breezy through the rest of today across western areas but warm and sunny in the east. there will be some rain for some areas as well, particularly where we do see this weather front moving in across the west parts of scotland, western areas of wales, southwestern england, as well. most likely to see the rain through this evening and the rest of this afternoon. could be some heavier bursts in there, and it is going to be quite breezy across the west, but particularly across northwestern scotland, where we're closer to that area of low pressure. overnight tonight, that rain will sink into more central areas of england, and it will turn much clearer from the north and west. and as the winds do ease, temperatures could fall as low as 4 or 5 degrees rurally in parts of northern ireland and

scotland, but up here it will be a fine start to the day and wednesday is looking fairly fine generally, particularly for northern and western areas, so plenty of sunshine in particular across eastern areas of scotland, across the west. we do have a weather front not too far away, and that could just bring the risk of some showers to the western isles, as well as the far west of northern ireland. but by and large a pretty nice start to the day. and temperatures around 14 or 15 degrees. sunshine likely for parts of wales as well if that rain has cleared away nicely overnight, but a fairly grey start to come for central and southern areas of england, as well as some eastern areas too, well as some eastern areas too, we could see some outbreaks of drizzly rains, most likely across the morning, will likely turn a bit drier into the afternoon for these areas, but there's still a risk of some rain. so much cloudier and a cooler day across eastern areas. temperatures just 2324 degrees across the west. temperatures around average, but with lighter winds it will still feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine to end wednesday. the next weather front will arrive from the north

and west. further south and east, though that rain and cloud will eventually clear, so a dry and clear night for many areas. but the wet weather will continue to spread in from the north and west through thursday, bringing some fairly persistent rain that will sink into the southeast for friday. but it's looking fine on the weekend . looking fine on the weekend. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb

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