some some massive racists. plus some some people have run away . yeah, so people have run away. yeah, so that's the aftermath of a terror attack there. and our new home secretary thinks misogyny should be a terror offence. has she lost the plot.7 >> part of the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice . found her voice. >> megan is mercilessly mocked for those comments about her three year old on my panel tonight. it's express columnist carole malone, journalist benjamin butterworth and ex—chairman of the tory party, sir jake berry. and ex—chairman of the tory party, sirjake berry. and i ex—chairman of the tory party, sir jake berry. and i want you sirjake berry. and i want you to tell me what happens next here. please does hanan wall have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> get ready britain, here we go .

>> get ready britain, here we go. it's not far right to be anti—mass migration. next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00. your top story this hour. british tech tycoon mike lynch and his daughter are among six tourists missing after a luxury yacht sank in a tornado off the coast of sicily. the british registered 56 metre bayesian had 22 people on board when it went down. a body believed to be that of the vessel's cook has been found. divers are now combing the waters as search efforts continue around the wreck. 50m underwater. so far , 15 people underwater. so far, 15 people have been rescued, including the wife of mike lynch and a one year old girl. it comes just weeks after mr lynch was cleared of all charges by a us jury in the high profile fraud case related to the sale of his software company autonomy to

hewlett—packard in 2011. meanwhile mike lynch's ex—colleague and co—defendant in his us fraud trial has died in hospital after being hit by a car just days before the tech tycoon went missing. that's according to his lawyer. it's understood stephen chamberlain, who was vice president of finance at autonomy alongside chief executive mike lynch, was hit by a car in cambridgeshire on saturday morning and was then placed on life support. in other news, the us has called on hamas to agree to a bridging a proposal for a ceasefire in gaza after it gained the backing of israel . earlier, the us israel. earlier, the us secretary of state said the latest push for a deal was probably the best and possibly the last opportunity, urging both sides towards agreement. speaking after a meeting with israel's prime minister, antony blinken said benjamin netanyahu had agreed with the proposal, which would lead to a ceasefire and see the return of hostages .

and see the return of hostages. back in the uk, in manchester, a 43 year old woman has died and two others are in a critical condition following a triple stabbing. a 22 year old man, believed to be known to the victims, has been arrested on suspicion of murder. greater manchester police are appealing for witnesses as they continue their investigation into what they say is an isolated incident . they say is an isolated incident. meanwhile, there will be no punishment for anyone handing zombie knives and machetes into police stations ahead of a new ban. restrictions come in next month. the government stopped short of making ninja swords illegal, but insists that will soon happen. policing minister dame diana johnson says the pubuc dame diana johnson says the public should do the right thing and surrender any dangerous weapons . prisons minister lord weapons. prisons minister lord timpson claims he's inherited a justice system in crisis as plans to address overcrowding in jails are activated in northern england . operation early dawn england. operation early dawn will see defendants who are

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forward slash alerts. >> welcome along. it is starting to look like the worst crime you can commit in keir starmer's britain is wanting to stop the boats. here was a very small protest in bournemouth yesterday against mass immigration. how many economically broken . home? many economically broken. home? >> ms val coleman phones 4u. how >> ms val coleman phones 4u. how >> yeah i mean that was literally it. can you guess what happened? they sent five different police forces to attend that . five. yeah. dorset attend that. five. yeah. dorset police, which had already been armed with extra search powers, were joined by officers from the met. thames valley, hampshire . met. thames valley, hampshire. avon and somerset and devon and cornwall forces. it was remarkable, isn't it? keir starmer has just launched operation early dawn. in a nutshell, this means that the labour government, who wanted to release people from prison early to free up space, are now coming up with ways to lock people up. well, today , a mother of six who

well, today, a mother of six who threw a brick at police in hartlepool was jailed for two years. now that's bad. obviously that's bad and probably deserves prison. but then also today, a man with a history of violence who tried to suffocate a pregnant woman with a pillow was given a two year suspended sentence. i mean, which one would you rather have locked up? meanwhile, starmer thinks everyone who protested in belfast was a racist. >> the disorder is intolerable. >> the disorder is intolerable. >> it is incapable of justification. it's clearly racist and it does not represent the modern, forward looking northern ireland that i know that this place is . that this place is. >> but the fact is, the boats are still coming. 500 came over on saturday alone. shall we check in and just see how that interview process is now going for the new border command operation? should we have a little look ? yeah. isn't it little look? yeah. isn't it remarkable the levels this government will go to not

acknowledge the problem, instead of just dealing with it ? acknowledge the problem, instead of just dealing with it? a acknowledge the problem, instead of just dealing with it ? a new of just dealing with it? a new poll has even revealed that more than half of people think britain is moving in the wrong direction now. and starmer's approval rating has plummeted seven points from plus 7 to 0 since the election. that is hardly surprising, is it? let's get the thoughts of my panel. we've got broadcaster and journalist carole malone, journalist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster as well. benjamin butterworth and former chairman of the tory party. we have got sirjake berry. carole, i'll start with you. do you think the worst crime you can commit under keir starmer's britain is to say, you know what, i'd quite like you to stop the boats, man. >> well, that's what it's looking like. >> you know, it is incredible. that thing of the weekend, that protest. you know, i wish they had five police forces for some of the pro—palestinian protests, where there are tens of thousands of people on the street and yet no one gets arrested. and you mentioned some really good examples there. you know that they were not rioters at that protest. they were peaceful protests and the people

making the most noise were they stand up for racists, which was they were across the road. there was 80 odd of them. they were the ones doing the shouting and. are you laughing at me? >> are you laughing? it's stand up against racism, not stand up for racists. oh, yes. >> well exactly that. >> well exactly that. >> yes, i correct benjamin, but give it time right now. >> sorry, people. you know what i mean? anyway, so. yeah. so i just think, you know, it's not racist to speak out about the huge numbers of people who are coming here illegally. it is not racist to want to stop the trafficking. it's not racist to want to stop the gangs. but starmer doesn't want to. he thinks much of immigration law in this country is racist. he said it when he was dpp. he thinks it's racist to deport people who are here illegally. so how is he going to solve this problem you just said he had on saturday? how is he going to tackle this? >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, thatis >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, that is the reality. it's all very well. and good now, you know, locking a load of people up.and know, locking a load of people up. and it's fine to say that a woman, regardless of whether or

not she's a mother of six who threw a brick at a police officer and i think i'm right in saying, was seen handing another brick to a child. i think many people would think, oh, you probably that's the kind of thing you might go to prison for. >> or maybe it's the sort of thing that you might get a suspended prison sentence for, but a clean record, because this is it, because then you look at the other person who was sentenced today to a suspended sentence, who was a man with a history of domestic violence, who tried to, well, smother a pregnant woman with a pillow. >> and you think, well, that quy's >> and you think, well, that guy's got a suspended sentence, and i do, i do wonder, benjamin here, if, you know, realistically, is it now seen as the worst crime to just be against mass migration? >> well, i don't understand is why so many people like carol with more you with mainstream questions about immigration, are trying to tie yourselves to far right racists, which these people are, because we don't know why you don't want to claim them. >> do you seriously think those people, those people born with a far right racist? seriously? well, what happened then? seriously? >> what happened there is that the police were concerned about what had broken out in the rest of the country. and i think, you know, as a former scout, be

prepared. is the is the resolution that police should 20 people who sat on a step with a flag wrapped around their shoulders, what are you talking? the issue is that riots are a social contagion. they spread, they cause a level of damage and disorder and disruption out of proportion with any individual protest or attack. and that's why you can't let it go out of control. so many right wingers, benjamin making a protest about something that lots of other ordinary people. >> i want to make one other point. >> first of all, you stated in your monologue that he wanted to release people from prison. that's not true. there was no choice. there were 700 cells vacant on july 5th. >> sorry, sorry, but the bulk is now put in charge of prisons. has gone on record in the past and said that about half of the people who are in prison should not be in there, which implies to me that he does want them out of prison. >> and the second point is that to talk about the case you did, which got a suspended sentence, you know, the judge making a conclusion on that is not thinking about another judge deaung thinking about another judge dealing with a riot in a different part of the country for entirely different. but it wasn't false. >> i wonder if it implies that

those those prosecutions and the justice and the sentences being handed out now are political in nature. >> well, look. so it's right that if this woman lobbed a brick at a police officer, that she has been sent to prison because an attack on the police is an attack on society, it's an attack on all of us, actually. so that is the right thing. it sounds like the wrong sentence with the serial domestic violence woman abuser who tried to smother a woman. but let's just take a step back about the big mistake i think keir starmer is making here. the reason the conservatives lost the election. so badly is for election after election. we promised that we were going to get a grip on immigration. we didn't. the british people punished us and i think they will do the same with keir starmer, because he's almost not quite there, but he's almost not quite there, but he's almost saying to be concerned about immigration, you are racist. you are not. he's not said that, but it's what it feels like. the implication of what he is saying. and i'm concerned about immigration and i'm not racist. and then the final point i'd make is i'm actually really worried about the violence we're seeing from these counter—protesters, from these counter—protesters, from the hard left who are going

along to these, you know, 20 people turning up in bournemouth to protest quite peacefully. i look like an england game, didn't it? more than any sort of protest. then you have these hard left protests where there has been a lot of violent disorder, particularly in london. what is happening to those people? i'm not aware of any arrests, and this plays into this narrative of this two tier policing, which i think is corrosive for the country. >> so when the when it all first started kicking off very quickly, it was all far right this far right, far right, this far right, that and then we got whopping great big numbers of arrests, whopping great big prison sentences, brackets up to it. and now keir starmer has openly stood up and used the word racist and racist. you are a racist if you do this stuff, you know, he said you're racist if you went to the riot, if you went to the riots, if you went to the protests. yeah. which which implies that anyone who i think anyway, you might want to go and protest very peacefully about something like mass immigration could now be it opens the door for them to be smeared to and try to put people off. >> you know, we've had it rammed

down our throats while the pro—palestinian protests are in full force. we had it rammed down our throats. the peaceful process. we have to have it. it's very important now. this was a peaceful protest. this was not a riot and yet it was treated like a riot. so he can't have it both ways. either people are allowed to or they're not. but i think that there are there are certain very favourable protests, and immigration is not one of the ones that are favourable to this government. well, if his popularity is going down at the current rate, it is, you know, it will be less popular than rishi sunak soon enough, won't he? >> benjamin? >> benjamin? >> he's into minus now. >> he's into minus now. >> yeah. i mean there's nothing unusual about that. and you know that's because he's making decisions right. the fact is i find it extraordinary how so many people that were saying that, people that sat in the middle of a road, which i don't think is a good thing, but that did peaceful, incredibly peaceful protests for just did peaceful, incredibly peaceful protests forjust stop peaceful protests for just stop oil that they should get five years in prison, suddenly found themselves two weeks later, in some cases saying people that threw bricks at mosques or they should get a suspended sentence. why are they going to prison? benjamin? rioting is a benjamin is a danger to us. all these people are extremists. they are

racist. they are far right. they are organising online. what do you think you shouldn't be having a grey area with just stop oil. >> are there extremists? they don't care. their leader has actually said it's not his fault if someone it's not his fault or the protesters fault. if someone dies on the way to hospital, they can't get through those protests. they've said that and what are they? >> and i started off by saying an attack on the police is attack on all of us. people should go to prison if they attack the police. but you cannot get away from the fact that people in the o2, cannot get away from the fact that people in the 02, i think today or yesterday chanting intifada with a palestinian palestinian process, the protests we saw in leeds, there was very little policing of those, despite the fact that a bus was set. well, intifada has various means , but the oxford various means, but the oxford engush various means, but the oxford english dictionary is an uprising calling for an uprising, normally a violent uprising. they're saying from london to gaza, we want an intifada to me, that is very, very concerning. and if you look at the other news that's broken today about prisoners being released early so space can be found for these protesters, what you can have is people who've robbed your house, nicked your

car, got in a violent assault outside a pub. they're going to be released early. so someone who's retweeted something on the internet can be sent to prison. thatis internet can be sent to prison. that is not the case. >> that's the other aspect of what i said at the start. is it the worst crime in britain at the worst crime in britain at the moment to have, you know, strong views about immigration? are some of those views are unacceptable? one of the people, for example, i've said this numerous times who was sent to prison, tweeted an emoji of a foreign person and then a gun. right? the other person that we've had today, mum of six, threw a brick at a police officer. now i do get that those people should probably have some kind of custodial sentence. i'm not disputing that. but when you look at the idea that we might be allowing certain people out of prison early who have done things, you know, unspeakable things, you know, unspeakable things, so that, you know, julie from number 42 tweeted something or put something on facebook with which she is now apologised and realised and deleted straight away in many, many cases go to prison. >> she sound incredibly lax on crime. >> she was the sole carer for her very sick. julie was the sole carer for her very sick

husband. she had no criminal record at all and yet she gets sent down for 18 months. that is shocking. that is just criminal. no it's not. >> and why are you so weak on crime? >> and this rioting is dangerous because it spreads. what i was saying that happened in the week last week where a report was released that said criminals, habitual criminals who have committed up to 100 crimes were in court for the 101st time and got a suspended sentence slap on the wrist . that cannot be the. the wrist. that cannot be the. >> so do you want to see? do you want to see trade union leaders who are organising these counter protests? should they be sent for prison, for inciting people for prison, for inciting people for violence? if there is a violence, if there is violence at the counter protest which we have seen already, would you like to see trade union leaders sent to prison? is that being tough on crime? anybody who inches tough on crime? anybody who incites violence or incites riots should face the full force of the law, but the idea that woman should have thought about her circumstances before she acted in that way, and i'm not going to lose sleep over people that are so stupid and so dangerous as to smash up businesses. >> and she didn't. she tweeted something you talk about british

people. i tell you what. what about the british people had their businesses smashed up, their businesses smashed up, their town centres ruined, that were scared in their own homes. those are the reasons why all these rioters should i do hope i do hope that if somebody who has committed a serious violent crime is allowed out. so, so jacob built some prisons, then maybe they would still be there. >> well they did. >> well they did. >> you keep on saying that the tories have built two prisons 20, 20. >> we're going to we're going to we're going to whiz it on. we're going to whiz it on. coming up as harry and meghan's trip to colombia comes to an end with nothing but guff like this to show for it, part of the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice. she's found her voice. a couple of years ago, she she found her teeth. and then just before that, she found her feet, didn't she? she's just a child, really, isn't she? but anyway, was the whole thing a pointless pr exercise? royal commentator caroline aston offers her expert analysis on that, and the latest prince andrew controversy soon. but up next is home secretary yvette cooper, right? that misogyny should be treated like extremism. journalist and author

peter lloyd goes head to head with social commentator joana jarjue.

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up was harry and meghan's columbia trip a pointless pr exercise? royal commentator caroline aston gives her scathing analysis , but her scathing analysis, but first, it's time for the head to head. first, it's time for the head to head . misogyny will be treated

head. misogyny will be treated as a form of extremism under new plans, being drawn up by the home office. home secretary yvette cooper has ordered a review of the uk's counter—extremism strategy to determine how best to tackle threats posed by, quote, harmful ideologies . threats posed by, quote, harmful ideologies. so threats posed by, quote, harmful ideologies . so the analysis will ideologies. so the analysis will look at hatred of women as one of the ideological trends that the government says is gaining traction, as well as the rise of islamist and far right extremism, cooper said. the review will identify any gaps in existing policy as part of a crackdown on people pushing harmful and hateful beliefs and violence. right. look, what do you think about this? is home secretary yvette cooper, right? that misogyny should now be treated like extremism or terrorism. let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews. while you're there, go and vote in our poll. but going head to head on this right now are journalist and author peter lloyd and entrepreneur and social commentator joana jarjue. both of you, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. peter, do you think that

misogyny should be treated as some form of extremism or terrorism? >> no, i think it's absolutely an orwellian attack on free speech. and i think it's a completely sexist move by this labour government. firstly why should only misogyny be classed as a hate crime? why not misandry? according to the ons, men are 70% of all homicide victims year after year after yean victims year after year after year, but there are no government initiatives to tackle that. that is sexist and it's another example of two tier justice under keir starmer. secondly, who in the labour party is even going to be able to define what extreme misogyny is? those clowns can't even define what a woman is. so quite frankly, none of them are qualified for the job. and thirdly, i would say there are much bigger fish to fry in this country . the terror threat in country. the terror threat in the uk is currently noted as substantial. that means another terrorist attack is very likely .

terrorist attack is very likely. okay, just just just let me say 90% of mi5's okay, just just just let me say 90% of m15's watch list , 90% of 90% of m15's watch list, 90% of mi5's 90% of m15's watch list, 90% of m15's watch list are islamic extremists. they are the priority. they are the problem that needs to be tackled, not people like andrew tate. >> okay, well, look, joanna, what's your view? i mean, i don't know. have you ever been on the on the wrong side of some quite severe misogyny? did you feel as though that should be treated in the same way as, you know, extremism or terrorism? >> well, first of all, i'm offended and just wondering, how dare the other commentators say that we've got bigger fish to fry when we've got 2 million women a year? >> of course you're of course you're offended. you're a feminist. >> sorry, i'm still talking. was i talking when you were talking? yeah. 2 million women are subject to violence a year with men. and this starts somewhere. and it is very rich for a man to be sat there saying, we need to protect our free speech. we need to. if you don't act in a particular way that crosses the line towards women, then you've got no problem whatsoever with

any type of legislation. i don't understand why we're, you know, minimising this when we're actually having women suffering at the hands of men. and we're actually seeing an epidemic of misogyny and women dying. so if you're going to have something that's a specific ideology, which is where it actually stems from, and then, you know, snowballs into a bigger position where women are literally dying and being raped, then i don't understand how you could even pretend as if it's just a matter of free speech. you know what the stats are on rape in the uk. you know, every single day we're seeing a different woman. declined. yeah. by a man. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> rates of rape . why are you >> rates of rape. why are you minimising that? >> then? why are you. why are you minimising that? and making it sound as if this is a free speech thing? >> well, because it is partly a free speech thing, but also rape statistics in this country have declined over the last few years, which is, you know, kind of impressive given we should be really lucky about that. >> it's declining. oh my gosh, i'm so grateful for that. it should be at zero. >> well, well yeah. unless you want more women to be raped. is that what you want? >> that's obviously not what i

want. what i'm saying is that you're making a justification and basically saying, oh, well, but it's declining. so you know what? my free speech is worth than actually protecting women and actually going the furthest that we can to protect women. it's the ideology. do you know what it is? >> do you know what it is? >> do you know what it is? >> sister? are you going to tell me it's muslim men? go on. >> well, i mean, the pakistani rape gangs, they're pretty substantial problem. but actually, i think you didn't hear me when i said that 70% of homicide victims are men, not women . men. and i am sorry if it women. men. and i am sorry if it burst your bubble, but women are not special. they do not deserve special laws. they should be treated equally. but so should men. you do not deserve your own laws. okay jo white jo white to come back to that when you've got women being attacked specifically because of because they're women, and specifically because there are some women, some men without within our society who have an ideology that women are either fair game or, you know, they're entitled to a woman's body, which is

exactly what a person who would go and rape somebody would be thinking. >> you're obviously entitled to access to a person's body whether you want that, want it or not. that is very specific to a very specific group. and genden a very specific group. and gender, which is why i said 2 million women a year in this. >> no, actually, i'm sorry you're wrong. there >> actually, the most violent. >> actually, the most violent. >> no, you're wrong there then. >> no, you're wrong there then. >> also no, no men also get raped. >> and actually, if you look at the headlines in most newspapers recently, there is a scourge of female teachers grooming and raping male minors. and you know what? because you've got female privilege. women can't be charged with rape. it's only a crime that can be thrown at men. so actually, sister, you've got female privilege in spades. it's about it's about time the law was equal across the board , was equal across the board, whether you like it or not. >> actually, you made a point earlier about, you know, the grooming gangs. and actually in terms of that model of abuse , of terms of that model of abuse, of sexual abuse. yes. south asian men are, you know, overrepresented. but when you actually look at sexual assaults overall in the in the uk and the

majority, the vast majority of them are by white men. so i don't really understand. my main thing with this is, well, yeah, because we're a majority white country, you moron. why do you think your free speech is worth more than a woman's safety? because why do you think just being able to keep your ego and being able to keep your ego and being able to say whatever you want to an extent. so you want to basically open yourself up and just be free to say whatever you want with the woman without about a woman without having any accountability. is that what you're saying ? you. accountability. is that what you're saying? you. i'm accountability. is that what you're saying ? you. i'm letting you're saying? you. i'm letting you're saying? you. i'm letting you speak. >> oh, okay. all right. let's not let's not let's not get personal. >> free speech is the bedrock of western civilisation. people like you, commie feminists like you want to shut it down because you want to shut it down because you don't like criticism, and you don't like criticism, and you want a policeman that isn't a no, i'll tell you. >> i'll tell you. actually, i'll tell you what this commie feminist wants. and it's to make sure that we have some parameters that protect our society from inflammatory language, make sure that our young boys aren't drilled online to take women and become incels. that's what i want to do. and i

would hope that if you have a daughter one day, one day, or have any women in your lives that you would want to protect them. can i ask, can i can i just ask on this then and we'll round it off by by talking about this. >> i'll put it to you. johanna. where is the line with this? so is some kind of cack handed comment by a bloke down the pub about, you know, his wife cooking him dinner? something along those lines, right. you know, the kind of stuff i'm talking about that you know, should that be treated the same? is that is that is that misogyny or are you more on the grounds of, like, you know, someone who's actually wanting to physically harm a woman? because, i mean, the thing is, there are already laws against that, right? so what do you think, johanna? >> well, i think that there's certain figures, especially online, that we need to look at. you know, you can never police, you know, somebody being outside of the pub, even though you know, the sexual assault happens all the time, whether it's seen as minor or not. you know, people don't like, for example, catcalling to an extent. but that's not even what i'm talking about. what i'm talking about is that we've got some key figures right now who are really big on

the internet, like andrew tate, and people that have made a mockery and talked about women and even said allegedly, things like, you know, he's entitled to his female partner's body. he allegedly also said that one of the reasons why he moved to romania was because the police force was more lenient when it comes to rape charges there. so i'm just saying that there's certain things that we really need to make sure, because we've got such a massive, such a massive influence, especially on young boys and actually, now the latest reports have been saying that there's been a massive upfickin that there's been a massive uptick in younger boys now committing certain crimes towards women. >> all right. and peter, i'll just round it off with you. i will be fascinated to know who yvette cooper and the labour party really go after here or, or are desperate for our justice system to go after because there is rather a lot of misogyny in certain other religious groups, aren't there? misogyny is everywhere, and i don't want anyone to accuse me of trying to ignore that. but there are actually quite a large aspect of people would argue misogyny in certain in certain parts of the country with a, you know, with kind of a, you know, in certain

just groups, aren't they within the muslim community, there have been accusations of misogyny, you know, women not being necessarily allowed to work or things like that. so i wonder if the labour party might go after them a bit. >> well, in your dreams, but i would i would challenge you there because misogyny, contrary to popular belief, is not everywhere. we are not operating in a mist of misogyny, bad things happen to women. that doesn't make it misogyny. bad things happen to men. but that doesn't mean it's misandry, right? but here's a tip for labour if they want to stop misogyny rising , if they want to misogyny rising, if they want to make women safer, here's a top tip stop importing tens of thousands of men from the third world with regressive attitudes to women. that'll sort it. >> i've just told you that the majority of people who actually have been convicted of sexual crimes in the uk are actually white men, and the majority of people, women that report crimes as well, it's people who were closest to them. domestic abuse as well is through the roof. so it's not just a one size fits

all. i'm not saying that there isn't other communities who have been overrepresented when it comes to certain sexual crimes, but you can't pretend that it's because of the influx of migrants. you can literally just go on google and find this out . go on google and find this out. >> all right, guys, look, i'm really sorry about this, guys. we're gonna we're going to have to we're gonna have to knock it on the head. we wanted a head to head. it was indeed a good head to head. look, thank you, both of you, very, very much. and points well made on either side there. that was journalist and author peter lloyd. and entrepreneur and social commentator joana jarjue. that obviously could have rolled on for at least another half an houn for at least another half an hour. but we've got some other great topics for you. so who did you agree with? is home secretary yvette cooper right that misogyny should be treated like extremism? mark. mark does make the point that peter made, which i look forward to a defining it. i mean, are you a misogynist now, if you were. well, i suppose if you criticise a bloke wearing a wig, but jeff on x says only if they address misandry equally as well. devo on x says, i have a feeling that the margins of what is and isn't misogyny will change, and more people of lesser offences will be dragged into it. with the

inflammatory rhetoric we've seen lately, i can see how it will be abused. right? okay. your verdict is in 7% of you think that yvette cooper is right to say that misogyny should be treated as extremism, 93% of you say it shouldn't. coming up as a christian volunteer who was arrested for praying outside an abortion clinic has actually won abortion clinic has actually won a big payout. is labour's planned total ban on the peaceful practice another attack on our basic freedoms ? former on our basic freedoms? former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. he's live and unfiltered shortly. but next is meghan markle is mercilessly mocked for this comment about the sussexes. columbia jaunt. >> part of the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice . found her voice. >> yeah. where was she anyway ? >> yeah. where was she anyway? was the couple's long weekend visit to the crime and corruption ridden country a total waste of time? are they how a stock? royal commentator caroline aston is live and

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now harry and meghan's little jaunt around columbia has come to an end, thankfully. but after four days of glossy pr pictures, we're all left asking the same question, aren't we? what was the flipping point of that bar? one hand—picked journalist from the us publication harper's bazaar. the media weren't invited on the couple's quasi royal tour as they toured the crime and corruption and kidnap ridden south american country, attending events dedicated to onune attending events dedicated to online safety, female empowerment and the invictus

games. prince harry tried to endear himself by apologising for slavery. good lad has her before. meghan hailed her husband as a great example of how men can empower women by presumably just doing everything that they ever asked them to do. she also gushed about how their daughter lilibet, an afro woman power event, has apparently apparently found her voice. i think we can hear the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice and we're so proud of that because that is how we, as i was saying, create the conditions in which there's a ripple effect of young girls and young women knowing that if someone else is encouraging them to use their voice and be heard , that's what voice and be heard, that's what they're going to do, and they're going to create a very different environment than so many of us grew up in, where our voices were meant to be smaller. so that's a one way of saying that their daughter has now learned to talk, isn't it? but the

couple aren't well known in colombia, and singerjustin valdez asked the very fair question who is meghan? as they arrived for one visit. they were also accused of being political pawns for a dodgy regime, not for the first time. so what did the couple gain from swapping california for colombia for a long weekend? try and answer that. i'm joined now by royal commentator caroline aston. caroline, thank you very much. we heard a heck of a lot of guff from meghan. now, she said that lilibet has found her voice. i mean, presumably a year or so ago she might have found her teeth and then before that she might have found her feet quite literally. she learned to walk a little bit. was she on about? >> well, let's hope the first word that that little girl speaksis word that that little girl speaks is yes, because it would appear that sussex is like to be surrounded by people who say that. and if they don't , well, that. and if they don't, well, that. and if they don't, well, that revolving door on the staff room at camp montecito spins round and ejects people . and of round and ejects people. and of course, just before this much discussed trip to colombia, it turned and ejected of course, josh kettler, after only three months in situ as harry's grand

sounding chief of staff, he was gone. even though he'd been with them in nigeria. know gone. even though he'd been with them in nigeria . know what gone. even though he'd been with them in nigeria. know what i would say is if the makers of south park aren't sharpening their pencils as they watch and listen to this, they must be mad. i have here the sussexes ripe for lampooning and harpooning again. but really, what you're watching here is that old party game called who is using who. on the one side you have the sussexes with their brand tanking. really having lost direction. and of course meghan having been given a lot of raspberries, is making jam and cooking and trying to reinvent herself as a wholesome mom figure. and on the other side, you have, of course, the colombian government, as you say , colombian government, as you say, crime ridden narco terrorism, a very unsafe place with a danger warning on it, yet somehow much safer for the security conscious sussexes to go and visit and of

course, they hope the government of that country , although of that country, although i would say the president did not put in an appearance, it was the vice president all the way who said she'd fallen in love with meghan after watching the six episodes of the netflix documentary. so we've got two people here, two groups each hoping to ride on the back of the other. well, good luck with that. >> yeah , it's, it's also a >> yeah, it's, it's also a little bit odd, though, isn't it, that conceivably harry could have done all of this? they both could have done all of this from within the royal family probably. they could have done much more of it, actually. i mean , what was the what was the point? >> well, bang on the money there of course. and don't forget, if we go right back to megxit, they wanted to be half in, half out, half in. i suppose when you wore tiaras and uniforms. good photo opportunities there. that would enhance a brand they were hoping to build in royalty. fascinated

america, and ever since then there's been a kind of huge case of sour grapes. we didn't get what we want . we're going to go what we want. we're going to go our own way. i happen to think they might just be exploiting they might just be exploiting the gap on the balcony, as it were, of the depleted royal family. they know that the numbers are down. what an ideal time to get out there and show the world how they could have done the job had they deigned to share their gifts with us. >> yeah, well, i dare say that that could be it. and i think going especially in focusing on the afro side of the colombian country there, i think really emphasising, you know, this is the kind of thing that meghan markle might have been able to offer to the royal family on the world stage, and perhaps the way that wills, wills and kate can't. but can i just bring us slightly closer to home and talk about prince andrew? actually because, all right. because the king appears to be stepping up pressure on prince andrew to leave the royal lodge after axing the private security guards who provide protection at

the residence. so buckingham palace has refused to comment. but the issue was reportedly a hot topic as the pair spent the weekend together in balmoral. i can imagine. so i mean, look, assuming this is true , is the assuming this is true, is the king right to stop funding andrew's security and perhaps other aspects of his lifestyle ? other aspects of his lifestyle? >> well, at the root of this lies the problem that you have this huge house worth about £30 million or so royal lodge that desperately needs renovation. now, andrew can't afford to pay for that himself. so the king is really saying, come on, i need you out. there's this beautifully renovated, modernised place. frogmore go and live there and we'll sort royal lodge out. but you know, i happen to feel that the one thing that prince andrew always used to cling to, the times used to say, my mother, the queen, the queen, my mother. that meant so much to him, his royal status and basically all he's got left now is the sign on the door of his house, royal lodge. that's why he clings to it. in my

opinion, it's what it says on the tin. >> yeah. now, caroline, really insightful stuff. actually. i hadnt insightful stuff. actually. i hadn't really necessarily thought about that. i thought maybe he just liked it because it was big, but i think, yes, absolutely. the status side of it. and you know, now if he's out and, you know, let's be honest, i think if charles gets him out of there, he probably won't let him back, will he? so, there we go. well, look, thank you very much for that. great to have you on the show. i do hope to talk to you again soon. caroline aston there. coming up, labour ministers have received nearly half £1 million from their union paymasters. that's since 2019. so should we be at all surprised that they are now dishing out bumper pay rises? well, i tackle the cronyism in the labour party at ten. a certain sue grey's son has been implicated in all of this too, and there's much more to it than just that as well. jobs for the boys in some cases as well. give the labour party a load of money. get yourself a job in the civil service. if the tories did this, people would be absolutely going berserk, wouldn't they? but next, as a christian volunteer was arrested for praying outside an abortion clinic has won a payout. now

it's labour's planned total ban on the peaceful practice , on the peaceful practice, another attack on bafic freedoms. the editor of the sun,

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight only on gb news now, a christian charity volunteer has been awarded a £13,000 payout and an apology from police after being arrested for praying silently outside an abortion clinic. isabel vaughan spruce issued a claim against west midlands police for two wrongful arrests and false imprisonment. assault and battery in relation to an intrusive search of her person and for a breach of her human rights. in 2022 to 2023. officers from west midlands police told her at the time that engaging in prayer was the offence after she insisted that she was not protesting, but labouris she was not protesting, but labour is reportedly now planning to introduce controversial legislation to criminalise silent prayer

outside abortion clinics. is it just me or is it all getting a little bit authoritarian? very very quickly? former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, joins me now. kelvin, why are labour wasting our time now telling us you can't silently pray outside an abortion clinic because they they are equivocal in their thought about freedom of speech, and now they've extended that concern to freedom of thought . concern to freedom of thought. >> the bottom line on the bottom line on this is that that as long as they're liberal socialist views are embraced, you can protest as much as you like, so you can have thousands of people chanting the most vile things in relation to gaza. and that's fine. but you get somebody not saying anything, not punching anybody, not throwing any bricks, just one person actually protesting in a

silent way because there still was a protest, i think. and it's a prayer . they don't like it. a prayer. they don't like it. and why don't they like it? after all, abortion is not embraced by everybody in our society . no. all right. the society. no. all right. the majority of people, the majority of people, the majority of women in our country are massively in favour of it. but there is a silent minority who aren't. why can't we embrace them ? after can't we embrace them? after all, we embrace every other , all, we embrace every other, every other thought process in life. why should it be that we have to be 100%? and what is it about the labour party that says we can't have anybody brook our liberal views of life? >> yeah, i mean, look, just so far tonight, we've dealt with the idea that basically anyone who wants to protest mass migration is a massive racist. apparently you've got some incredibly fruity conditions there with people being sent to prison and some other crimes not being punished. we've just had a yvette cooper apparently wants misogyny to be treated like

extremism and terrorism, and now you can't pray in your own head outside an abortion clinic. and they've only been in power for about six weeks. but a spokesperson for west midlands police said a public space protection order was introduced by birmingham city council in 2022 to deter protesters and protect the public from intimidation that their presence causes. following numerous complaints from residents on that particular road, a member of the public who have been arrested on suspicion of breaching the pspo subsequently made a civil claim for unlawful arrest. we have now settled that claim without any admission of liability. but now, kelvin, all six conservative leadership candidates have backed a daily express campaign to force rachel reeves to u—turn on her winter fuel policy . here reeves to u—turn on her winter fuel policy. here is reeves to u—turn on her winter fuel policy . here is the fuel policy. here is the chancellor announcing it . well, chancellor announcing it. well, physically, i'll tell you what. i'll voiceover it. i'm going to tax the living daylights out of pensioners. no, she didn't say that. but anyway, kelvin, will labour cave in to the pressure ? labour cave in to the pressure? >> oh, as you well know, is that

the is that the price of energy is now going up. it's going up by about 9%, which can be quite a lot of money, actually, to be honest with you. and therefore at the same time as there as the price of energy is going up at the same time, the, the, the handout of £300 is, is going to disappear. and i think, i think that their problem now is that they don't know what to do for. right. they love giving away other people's money. so the middle classes can expect to be funding all kinds of nonsense. now over the next five years before this lot are thrown out. but right now i find the conservative party after all, when they they were accused by labour of thinking of doing this when they were in power and they were being attacked for it, and it didn't happen. now labour in power are saying actually we are going to do what we were attacking. people for only only attacking. people for only only a few months ago. honestly these are a collection of charlatans

and unfortunately the whole thing is beginning to fall apart amazingly quickly . the imagine amazingly quickly. the imagine what this is going to be like over the next five years. it's impossible. i think that they will come to some kind of deal in the end. will they give a little bit of the £300 back so they might give back? we'll say £150, whatever the rise in the new energy prices means, i think they will possibly hand that back and it will happen when, as she as rachel reeves stands up on october the 30th and announces, i'm afraid we're going to tax the living daylights out of you, having actually shouted from the rooftops when the tories hit it . rooftops when the tories hit it. we're now hit a new high of 70 years, right? this is going to go back 10,000 years, i imagine. >> well, i mean, look, there was that quite famous incident, i think, wasn't there, of tony blair being slow clapped by the women's institute. and i wonder whether or not this is going to

happen just en masse now in pubuc happen just en masse now in public with anyone of a certain age really coming out against the labour party. but we will have to wait and see. as far as they're concerned, of course they're concerned, of course they're going to say, oh, well, we have to balance the books and the tories have left us with this absolute mess. and this is one of the trade offs that being in government has to, has to be done. but anyway, thank you very much. sorry to cut you off, but we're bang out of time. kelvin mackenzie, former editor of the sun. coming up, remember when labour's prisons minister actually was talking about how he was going to remove people from prison early? well, labour have jailed so many rioters that they now have to come up with a new way of locking people up. but next i expose the cronyism and scandal in keir starmer's labour party. stay tuned for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello. very good evening to you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. plenty of showers as we go through tomorrow and some blustery gusty winds too. but before then

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parts of england, although in the far southeast that front will be lingering here for a time. so a grey, damp start to the day for some before that front clears away. by the afternoon behind it. for many, it is going to be a showery day and some of those showers will be heavy and there are some gusty, blustery winds to watch out for too, especially in the northwest, making it feel a little bit cooler for some. but there will also be some sunny spells. and in the east southeast in the sunshine, feeling quite warm with temperatures in the low to mid 20s. wednesday gets off to a fine start for many of us, but some very wet and windy weather is going to feed in from the northwest as we go through the day , particularly affecting day, particularly affecting scotland and perhaps northern ireland too. now the rain is going to be quite heavy and will last as we go into thursday, and it's all due to the remnants of what was hurricane ernesto, the other side of the atlantic. i'll see you again soon. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers , sponsors of up. boxt boilers, sponsors of weather

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in the firing line. plus, the disorder is intolerable. >> it is incapable of justification. it's clearly racist. >> so, keir starmer thinks anti—mass migration protests are racist . cindy yu van—tam. good racist. cindy yu van—tam. good stuff. so will it mean that thugs in prison like those people walk free? so, dorothy can go to jail for mean facebook posts? plus part of the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice . three she has found her voice. megan is mercilessly mocked for those comments about her three year old. and on my panel tonight, it's express columnist carole malone, journalist benjamin butterworth and ex—chairman of the tory party, sir jake berry. oh yes, and sirjake berry. oh yes, and please can you tell me what happens next here? does hayden wild have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> get ready britain. here we go .

>> get ready britain. here we go. corruption, cronyism and scandal in keir starmer's labour party. next . next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 10:00. your top story this hour british tech tycoon mike lynch and his daughter are among six tourists missing after a luxury yacht sankin missing after a luxury yacht sank in a tornado off the coast of sicily. the british registered 56 metre bayesian had 22 people on board when it went down after being struck by the tornado. a body believed to be that of the vessel's cook has now been found. divers are now combing the waters as search efforts continue around the wreck. 50m underwater so far , 15 wreck. 50m underwater so far, 15 people have been rescued, including the wife of mike lynch and a one year old girl. in

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asylum hotel while she was pushing her child in a pram. and chief medical officer professor chris whitty has met with ministers to discuss the uk's preparedness to respond to mpox. it's after the world health organisation declared it a pubuc organisation declared it a public health emergency. it comes as a new strain was found in europe. the clade one b strain has been confirmed in sweden after first being detected in the democratic repubuc detected in the democratic republic of congo. it's believed to be the most dangerous version of the disease so far. to be the most dangerous version of the disease so far . those are of the disease so far. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler moore in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> labour is now embroiled in an

alleged corruption and cronyism scandal. sir keir starmer's cabinet has accepted £480,000 in cash and donations in kind from labour's trade union backers that since 2019, and of the 404 labour mps, 213 took a total of 1.8 million from the unions since the general election was called in may. remember when keir starmer said this? >> i invite you all to join this government of service. >> what was he talking about? serving as union paymasters. they've now given massive pay rises to the unions, not forced them to work any harder for their money. and they're going to make it easier for them to strike. health secretary wes streeting received £14,286 in support from unions in the past five years. reportedly, this includes £3,143 from unison given to cover the costs of printing his campaign leaflets.

now, one of the bosses at unison said it wasn't paramedic's fault if patients died during strike action. so that's. that's good, isn't it? transport secretary louise hague also received a total of £24,289 in union support since 2019. reportedly, she's just given the train drivers 15% allowed them to still take the absolute mickey, with spanish practices like starting their lunch hour again if their boss dares to say hello to them during it, and they will be back out on strike again soon. home secretary yvette cooper has received ten grand from gmb. apparently, sue grey's son liam conlon, who, by the way, i think you're going to be heanng way, i think you're going to be hearing a heck of a lot more aboutin hearing a heck of a lot more about in the coming months and years, is also embroiled in this scandal. within days of his election, he was appointed as a parliamentary private secretary at the department for transport. oh, i don't know. maybe he knows someone at the top of the labour party. he accepted £4,000 from aslef, then his department offered an inflation busting pay rise to them. labour are about

to make it easier to strike by repealing the trade union act, so basically kind of anyway, as it stands, 50% of the vote has to choose to strike. and then for important sectors like the nhs, there has to be about a 40% turnout. so those are those are roughly the rules anyway. looks like they're going to scrap all of that. does that not have the whiff of corruption to it? labour would clearly deny that. but is that not the kind of thing that the tories, if they'd done it, the bbc, sky news, etc, they'd all be hammering them for it, won't they? cronyism. corruption. dada. dada dada. and what about the jobs for mates scandal? yes, emily middleton was made a director general in the department for science and technology just weeks after a £67,000 donation to the labour party was revealed. and a chap called ian caulfield, a former banker who donated more than 20 grand to labour, including a £5,000 payment to chancellor rachel reeves, has shock, horror been given a top job in the treasury? when people said what

i like about labour is now the adults, they're back in the room. presumably they didn't mean the kind of adults who would sell an entire country out for a few quid. does labour not have serious questions to answer about cronyism? right at the heart of government? let's get our thoughts on my panel now. it's broadcaster and journalist. we've got carol maloney. we've also got journalist benjamin butterworth and the former chairman of the conservative party, sirjake berry. carol, if the tories have been getting up to this, it would have been all over the front pages, wouldn't it? i mean, is this cronyism at the highest level? >> can you begin to imagine, you know, if the son of a tory minister or an mp or the son of a tory grandee had been paid this kind of money, four grand before an election by a union, there would have been hell to pay- there would have been hell to pay. there would have been screams for resignations. whatever you know, this is this just reminds me of countries that we call banana republics, where rich people with power and influence buy into the

governments with power and influence. and that's what's happening here. and, you know, it is outrageous. you you read some figures out there more shocking since 2020 that the unions have given the labour party £36 million. people like people like lisa nandy have had 96 grand. people like angela raynen 96 grand. people like angela rayner, 144 grand since 2019. these are now what are they doing in return for that money? because pay rises, isn't it? well, it's pay rises now. but it wasn't necessarily pay rises in 2019 when there were big what they were buying their way . and they were buying their way. and they were buying their way. and the next thing they're going to do. so they've done, they've they're going to you know, they've bought the pay rises now they're going to buy off the strike laws, which means that anyone now can go on the way the law stands currently, you have to have 50% of the workforce wouldn't to go on strike. they're going to scrap that laboun they're going to scrap that labour. so it means you can have five people vote for strike in the whole country. can we? >> look, this this is this is old school stuff, isn't it? is it not? you know, it's got the massive whiff of here's a brown

envelope with a bit of cash in it. can you do what we want? i mean, shock, horror. they've given them the cash. now they're getting what they want. >> well, let's hope none of these people have libel lawyers, because that's a completely absurd statement with no basis in fact. first of all, for context, you know, trade unions formed the labour party over 100 years ago. the clue is in the name. trade unions get their money from millions of individual workers who volunteer to be a member of that trade union, who make donations in many of those trade unions, it is now a choice whether they have a donation, go to the labour party or not. this is a mass movement democracy, and it is entirely legitimate. now, £4,000 to what was a marginal seat that liam conlon, the tory. pardon me, the labour mp ford well in the election now be in a position . no no no no no no. position. no no no no no no. >> let me finish. should he be in a position weeks later to be able to essentially sign off on whether or not that same union gets a pay rise? really? >> he didn't sign it off because a parliamentary private secretary is the most junior ministerial post, and it will not have been his decision in any way. it will be the prime minister's decision.

>> liam conlon didn't just get four grand, he got 20 grand from various unions, as did pretty much every labour candidate in a winnable seat. >> that's the point. >> that's the point. >> we're making that buying influence. >> but i'm saying that's complete nonsense. i would much rather millions of people who join trades unions support and fund a political movement than the fact that the tories had 40% of their funding from people unked of their funding from people linked to fossil fuels and wanted to keep drilling for oil. do you not think, do you really think, when the strike laws are abandoned? >> do you really think when the so the thing is about those strike laws is i voted to bring them in. so i know a little bit about them. they were brought in in 2016 under david cameron's government, and they were brought in to tackle the fact that you've recently, i think it was in 2014, a couple of years earlier, you'd had a strike in the nhs, where less than 20%, only 19% of the workforce bothered to take part in the ballot. and then the nhs was was shut down. so those strike laws, they're not tory leadership. well those strike laws are not particularly onerous. they, you know , are reasonable to say that

know, are reasonable to say that you're going to rip them up and go back to square one. you are putting the hand, the power back in the hands of the trade union to hold this government, this country, to ransom. this is important. >> do you think that the pay rises and the decapitation of the strike laws is being done now, because unions have paid labour quite a bit of money? because benjamin would say no. right. fair enough. he would say no. well it doesn't pass the smell test, does it? >> and people would say, you know, half £1 million almost given to the cabinet. the cabinet making these very difficult decisions about who should pay for these pay rises, taking money away from pensioners, stripping their winter fuel payments away from them. it just doesn't pass the smell test. and let's not forget, we live in a country where only 17% of the working population actually work in the public sector , so the vast majority of sector, so the vast majority of people work in the private sector, paying increased taxes to pay for these bumper pay rises. you have you have a minority. the 17% of the uk's workforce effectively holding the rest of the country to

ransom by going on strike. and the labour party is giving them more power to do so. that is wrong. >> when the strike laws are abandoned and it means that workers don't have to vote to go on strike, it means a handful of union barons are running this country. so that's where the power is going to be. it's not with the workers. no it isn't. that's exactly what's going to happen. >> there were considerably fewer strikes in the 14 years of conservative government than the previous 13 years of labour government. and that's because when you have a government that actually listens to organisations that stand up for workers, then you don't get the scenario where they have. so benjamin begum, to be able to talk to basic quality of life and you talk about, hang on, you've had your comments. no, i haven't had my comments about how that private sector paying their taxes. well, actually private sector workers have had bigger increases in the last couple of years than public sector to about 2 to 1. talking about anyone in the public sector struggles to pay their bills. >> the whole show, the you you you don't know history, the 70s. this happened in the 70s where there were pay increases and where every union went on strike to get a bigger pay rise than

the last one. and that ended with 25% inflation and erected cost. and it shows how do you know what do you know what the. >> so the reason we didn't settle with the train drivers when we were in government is that we won't we won't settle you that we won't we won't settle you pay that we won't we won't settle you pay deal until we've dealt with your working condition. the spanish practices you refer to, we link the two together. the labour party came in and said, you can have whatever you want. here's your 21%. so you're earning an average of £80,000 a year plus to drive a train. and then they're going back on strike about the terms and conditions. this is just a disaster for british business and people who are working hard. you are basically got the government. you know, the public sector isn't meant to be a job creation scheme. it's meant to serve us. it's meant to be a pubuc serve us. it's meant to be a public sector that works for britain. what we're at now with this labour government is britain is having to work for this job creation scheme. it's not about service. you know, if train drivers should be paid more, they should drive you know, pay them to get the trains running on time. that's what they should pay more for, not

just for turning up and doing theirjob badly. their job badly. >> the theirjob badly. >> the trains did not run. in the last few years. it has been an absolute nightmare. and people like people like former tory mps, like sirjake, they tory mps, like sir jake, they were more interested in political grandstanding to try and make arguments, create fights to win points than they were to resolve issues. no. >> that's wrong. >> that's wrong. >> we realise the biggest problem our country has is that wages for most people have been stagnant since 2008, and it speaks volumes. >> well, according to everyone in the private sector, we realise that public services are about delivering services to the british people for a good value. what we've got now is a labour government that thinks that it's a job creation scheme, whether the services are good or bad, you should all be paid more. it is putting the british people in the service of the public sector rather than the other way round. >> we have a chancellor who's actually said strikes cost more than, strikes cost less than settling. and that's correct. what she's done. no, it is not correct. because is that not correct? because the train drivers are going to go on

strike again next year, having just been given a 14% pay rise. tell that you've said it already. >> three people have been affected by the junior doctor strikes, which they had to do to get a basic salary. >> we should feel sorry for train drivers who work a four day week. no weekends, and they actually get a grand a year plus if they work a bit of overtime. seriously, have you ever looked a train driver? >> does or do you know about a train driver's work life? >> well, i know it's not a lot. i know it's not an awful lot. for 100 grand a year that these people make. >> they make them go in a straight line on rails. >> you can see into the cabin, you can see what they're doing. >> benjamin. it's a lever, actually. >> i think, you know, maybe the case of the london underground, but it's not the case on most trains across the country. >> the most reliable service in london, the dlr, no train drivers. it's all electronic. >> here you have, you know, two millionaires laughing at people trying to get a basic salary to cover the cost. both of you. this is what labour does. >> this is exactly what labour is. they try and they try and people off. i'm not a millionaire. i don't know about him, but i'm certainly not a

millionaire. how dare you say that to us? to try and denigrate our argument. because by saying that we might live in these people. >> these people? >> these people? >> what people? we've got doctors who can't even afford to rent a flat on their own, live, you know, extremely qualified. there are doctors in the third yean there are doctors in the third year, 60 grand. >> plus they are not on the bones of their backside. >> i'll just get the have had years of smallest violin in history out of my pocket. the poor 60 grand a year workers. >> they laugh at you. no, i'm not laughing. my workers didn't vote for your lot. >> most train drivers earn more than i do. i can tell you that. >> well, we'll see what we. we'll see what happens. i think it's true. >> that is. that is true. >> that is. that is true. >> i just think you are. >> i just think you are. >> i just think you are. >> i just think there is something a little bit whiffy about the idea that if you've received money from unions consistently and repeatedly for a number of years, i think it's six weeks in and you're giving them not just big pay offers, but there's no strings attached to them and all sorts. and then you're going to make it easier for them to strike. and you think, oh, come on, if there is something a little bit odd about that. however, a labour party spokesman has reassured us all

that all donations are declared in accordance with parliamentary and electoral commission rules. oh, i thought they'd give us a slightly longer statement than that, but. all right. well, there you go then. fair enough. maybe they went on strike and it's all fine. >> then i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. >> plus, i'll show you what happens next. here does hayden wall have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> but next, remember when labour's prisons minister said this? >> we're addicted to sentencing. we're addicted to punishment. so many of the people who are in prison, in my view, shouldn't be there. a lot should, but a lot shouldn't. >> well, labour have jailed so many rioters and mean tweeters that they've actually sparked a fresh prisons crisis . fresh prisons crisis. ex—prisoner turned social campaigner winston davis is live and he's next.

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, tomorrow's front pages are on the way. and i must say, i've just seen the front of the daily mail and it is absolutely box office. so we'll try and get to that quickly. but first, the government's draconian sentencing for rioters and people who posted online about the riots has sparked fresh prison crisis . operation fresh prison crisis. operation early dawn, previously triggered for a week in march, has been enacted again with the means. sorry which means that police must release suspects on bail if there is no prison space available. ministers insist that no one who poses a danger to the pubuc no one who poses a danger to the public will be released, but the pfisons public will be released, but the prisons and probation minister, lord timpson, said we inherited a justice system in crisis and

exposed to shocks as a result, we've been forced into making difficult but necessary decisions to keep it operating. look, i'm joined now by ex—prisoner and social campaigner winston davis. winston, great to have you back on the show. great to see you again. and so look , is this a again. and so look, is this a bit of a crisis of labour's own making do you think? i mean, i suppose they didn't have to try to lock everybody up for as long as they did over the course of the riots, or do you think maybe they did? >> look, 100%, labour have inherited an issue, this problem from the conservatives, rishi sunak, when he was the chancellor of 2020, he was told that there was going to be a prison crisis in 2022, 2023 if he didn't take action, they didn't take action. labour have inherited and inherited it and now we've just had the riots. what i did, i had a look back at the london riots and we had 2011, the average sentence in 2011, the average sentence in 2011 was 17 months for someone involved in the riots. that compared to 33.7 months in a comparable crime from the year before. so it's over four times more harsh than what they were

the year before. the sentence is given out. so far, 130 people have been sentenced so far and they've got average sentence of two years. now, on the face of it, it looks like they've been more harshly dealt with. but then when you look at the average sentences increasing by 50% in that same time frame, they're actually quite comparable. so both of them are harsh. 100%. and it was for the government to send a message . government to send a message. and was it needed again, stop it. stop the riots, >> well, yes. so there's two ways to look at that. aren't they really? one is that it stopped the riots. the other way to look at it was that that maybe these people were in some cases idiots, and that the overall threat of the far right was maybe slightly overblown. you know, we may well never know the true answer to that because, crucially, the riots have have stopped. but when it comes to keeping people in police stations, as opposed to sending them to prison and things, maybe for a bit longer, are there any issues around that? do you think that's because the other side of it, they've said is there's a one in, one out system going to

happenin one in, one out system going to happen in prisons now? and i think people are concerned that labour might be more willing to let people who have had a violent past out so that they can make way for people who've maybe, you know , put something maybe, you know, put something on facebook. >> yeah. look, they've said that the most violent people, most anyone who poses a danger won't be released. i mean, it's very, very difficult. i wouldn't want to be in any of their positions right now. you saw earlier you put, timpson's, interview up . i put, timpson's, interview up. i wouldn't want to be in their position trying to trying to manage that. you know, end of the day, you've got to show your sternness. but at the same time , sternness. but at the same time, we've only got limited population of our prison space capacity. and we're busting at the seams at the moment. so, you know that one in, one out. yeah. there is there is the risk 100%. there's a risk that we're putting the british public at danger to, you know, the chance of someone committing a serious, serious crime. but then the other question is, what are the chances the people that have gone out causing these riots, that have been inciting the riots, you know, they could have caused a murder, they could have

caused a murder, they could have caused a murder, they could have caused a serious, serious crime, and that has had to be shown a deterrent. i was looking at some yougov polls and it was saying that, 75% of people don't agree with people that committed the unrest of the riots. however, one thing i saw was and it was and it needs to be looked at is 40% of people agreed with people protesting. yeah. and that's that's striking, patrick, because it's like, you know, for whatever reason why they're feeling like that, whether it's the media or whether these are genuine fears that are not being listened to or spoken about, we can't ignore it. >> yeah. no you can't i mean, look, i think it's going to be interesting to see what happens. i mean clearly labour's intention is to try to free up some prison space and to, you know, with that they're prepared to take what they may view as a calculated risk, aren't they, that some people come out? there's an ideological position there as well. i think it's unquestionable that timpson and he's put his money where his mouth is with his own business and the things that he's done there, he ideologically does not really think prisons work. fair enough. but then it will be interesting to see if anything,

if anything bad does happen for the people they let out in this versus some of the people they've got in. just quickly, winston, if that's all right, do you think it would have been enough of a deterrent to give someone who's got involved in these riots, who doesn't have a criminal record before? so he's never really looked into the white of a judge's eyes before, right, to have given them a suspended sentence and said, you have got very lucky here. do you think that would have been enough of a deterrent? >> well, here's the thing. 2019 minister of justice own report says that, shorter prison sentences do not work . so the sentences do not work. so the fact is, the ones that are getting the shorter sentences know that, you know, potentially they shouldn't have been sent to prison. potentially they should have been given a community order, a suspended sentence. but it depends on the severity of it. you know, like i said, if someone's committed a crime that that needs to go to prison, 100% are there. but you've got they've got to listen to their own, their own reports, their own, their own reports, their own, recommendations. >> okay , winston, look thank you >> okay, winston, look thank you mate. great to see you again. and take care. all right. winston davis, the ex—prisoner and social campaigner right now . and social campaigner right now. coming up. well, we know that meghan markle was mocked, wasn't

she, for this comment about her three year old part of the role modelling that that i certainly try to do as a mother is to encourage our daughter, who at three she has found her voice . three she has found her voice. but i'm about to tell you that there is a much bigger royal story in town, i'm afraid, and it has just landed. on the front tomorrow's daily mail, and i will bring

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. it's time to bring you the very first look at tomorrow's front pages . and tomorrow's front pages. and there are a couple of, well, very revealing ones. we will start with the metro storm sinks £14 million boat off the coast of sicily . this is the tycoon of sicily. this is the tycoon missing in yacht horror. there is a, another story coming out about this of the young mother who held her baby above her head for an hour in the water. it's only a month old, i think, or

something like that. and, and they managed to both be rescued. so there is that side of it as well. let's go to the i. crime suspects left on streets under one in, one out prison crowding plan. we've spoken about that just now, actually, about whether the public could be in danger because of that. millionaires in yacht tragedy says the times. hunt for britain's bill gates and oxford bound daughter off sicily a baby held aloft by mother survives, let's go to the guardian, again, british tech boss among missing after superyacht sinks off sicily, and yeah, unfortunately, they've gone for actually, i must say, a very graphic picture on the front here. the aftermath of a tragedy. rescue workers bnng of a tragedy. rescue workers bring a body ashore as the search continues for the missing people on that super yacht, i'm going to whizzes to the telegraph now again. tech tycoon feared dead in family superyacht tragedy. there is an interesting other dynamic to this story, isn't there? which is that the quy's isn't there? which is that the guy's former business partner. i think it is also died last week

in a car after being hit by a car , i mean, it's an astonishing car, i mean, it's an astonishing coincidence, a very morbid coincidence, a very morbid coincidence, but it is an astonishing coincidence nonetheless . now, this one, the nonetheless. now, this one, the daily mail all right, this is a royal world exclusive from the daily mail. the queen said that trump was, quote , very rude, but trump was, quote, very rude, but get this astonishing claim revealed in new book, which also reports that the late monarch believed that the president must have an arrangement with his wife, melania. queen elizabeth found donald trump quotes very rude. a sensational new biography is claiming the sovereign, who hosted the ex—us president twice during her reign, is said to have particularly disliked the way he looked over her shoulder as if in search of others. more interesting, she also mused over his relationship with melania and said she believed he must have some sort of arrangement. the astonishing claim is being made by craig brown in his new book, a voyage around the queen, which was a bit weird and which is being serialised in the daily mail. he reports the conversation occurred at a lunch

weeks after one of mr trump's visits. he says over the course of her reign, her majesty entertained many controversial foreign leaders, including bashar al assad and robert mugabe. idi amin, donald trump and emperor hirohito and vladimir putin. there we go. right. well, carol, what do you make of that? then the late queen thought trump was rude and had some kind of weird arrangement with melania. >> i think our late queen was a very astute woman, and i think i think you know, the very fact that he would look over her shoulder in search of someone more interesting is beyond bizarre to me, because she's the most interesting person and was the most interesting person in any room, and he is such a royalist. he loves the royal family. in fact , he'd be looking family. in fact, he'd be looking beyond the queen is just bizarre. but and the fact that he had an arrangement with melania, well, she would have seen the interaction between them, which would have been none. so it's not it's not. it's interesting, isn't it? yes. >> the thing is, the only thing i will say about this is like, is it true? >> right? i mean, i don't really

know much about craig brown's history when we've seen trump. i mean, i think trump kind of quite unashamedly, he's royalist, loved the queen. >> right. well yeah, i think it's a bit odd that that maybe the queen would have come out and said this stuff. >> and also it wasn't really like our to queen say things like our to queen say things like this, i don't think. >> was it? so i think the late majesty queen elizabeth ii would be absolutely mortified by this. she was, you know, famously the most discreet woman in the world. i don't know where these claims have emerged from, but i don't think that if she were still alive, obviously still much missed, she would be pleased about this. at all. and i think it's actually a bit of a pity i think it's actually a bit of a pity that these obviously the most interesting thing that's said in this book, because it's being serialised in the paper, your first day, get the really good stuff out there to try and persuade people to buy the newspaper and probably the book as well. i just think that it's as well. i just think that it's a great shame that it's come out. >> yeah. what do you what do you recommend? >> i mean, craig brown is very highly regarded. so, you know, i've no doubt that this is well sourced and tested from somebody that, you know, would be able to

work out whether something's likely to have happened. i mean, look, if she was saying that he was rude, that he was distracted, that their relationship looked implausible with melania, you know, she would be making observations that many other britons have made. so it is certainly plausible. i think , you know, i plausible. i think, you know, i can believe he was looking over his shoulder because if there was a mirror anywhere nearby, i think donald trump always thought he was the most interesting person in a room. and but patrick's right. >> she she wouldn't necessarily have repeated that to people. yeah. >> she was who she was talking to. well. >> well it depends. and whoever it was and if they if it was dunng it was and if they if it was during the repeated this well you know, shame on them. but it is she wouldn't have done that i wouldn't i just i don't quite believe. >> well more shame on the person. whoever she did, maybe she thought she was with friends. maybe she did repeat these things. but more shame on these things. but more shame on the person who, after her death, has decided to spill their guts to somebody who's writing a book. i think it's a great pity she's more likely to say to people's faces than she is behind their backs. >> i mean, i think she didn't. i think she once said a thing about vladimir putin where

didn't david blunkett's guide dog bark at him or something? >> and she said, dogs are very perceptive or something along those lines. >> a subtle way can believe it's not, it's not. >> it's not the same as saying, oh, he was looking in search of someone more interesting then, you know, being the queen and having been the queen for a very long time. >> by this stage, she probably was. would be taken aback by someone that is distracted. that's not interested in her, that's not listening. that would be a pretty noteworthy reaction that she's not used to. >> yeah, possibly. i mean, i shudder to think what she used to say about macron, but you know, but he he is a massive royalist. >> he gave the most beautiful commendation after her death. >> yeah. he did he look back at this footage though don't you. and just really remember how absolutely tragic it is that she's no longer here. i mean, that was, you know, britain . that was, you know, britain. britain just is not the same. >> it's not the same. you're right. and as good as charles is, and i think, you know, he's making a good fist, i think. i think he's got he's not like her. she brought the world to her. >> so what made the difference was she was the most recognised person in the world. she was

recognised all over the globe. but it was the length of her service to her country and the fact that she had met you know, every world leader repeatedly she'd seen. i can't remember how many, but probably over a dozen or so prime ministers. she just had that very, very long view. and she was a constant through all of our lives. and that is why she is so deeply missed. as much as we love king charles, she is still deeply missed by her subjects. >> i think she was the last monarch that was able to truly believe she'd sort of been chosen by god. i think the younger ones, you can see it, they don't quite believe themselves and that that passes on, you know, you struggle to believe. william thinks that he was chosen by god . and i also was chosen by god. and i also think that because of the era she was from, she was able to escape the sort of media transaction that charles and william have to do. and so we truly have no idea what she thought. but whereas charles and william and harry, you know, none of that is possible. but the great thing about was she transcended eras. >> that was what was incredible. you know, you know, old and young adored her and they

respected her. and i think they respected her. and i think they respected her. and i think they respected her because of her dedication to duty. i don't know, it was because, you know, she believed she was chosen by god. i think just everywhere she walked into, people were mesmerised by her in a way there will never be mesmerised by charles, not even wills and kate. actually, you know, when you have, you know, 70 years of service behind you and her reputation, never ever a moment's controversy in her life, that's why people respect you and no one can build that up again in the royal family. no one. >> and the reason this daily mail front page is so remarkable is because her discretion was her superpower. >> well, that's it, isn't it? and it's. yeah. yeah, exactly. i mean, although as you you made the point though, didn't you? you know, that look, this could well be the most sensational. the daily mail are serialising this, you know. so this is they have obviously paid for the serialised version of this . they serialised version of this. they are it will be well within their nature to want to, to say no, you don't have to rush out and buy the paper because you can watch this show and hear all about it. well, this is it indeed. indeed all right. well,

well, look, that is the probably the most shocking of the front pagesin the most shocking of the front pages in a salacious sense, anyway. of course, all the other stories really on the front pages are about this, this tech tycoon, sadly feared dead and family superyacht tragedy, yeah. this is, this is mike lynch. he's among, they say his six people still missing, apparently, as it currently stands on the superyacht. can i just say with this quickly? yeah. how just fundamentally , yeah. how just fundamentally, thoroughly unusual this story seems to be. i mean, a hurricane off the coast of sicily that's hit this boat, seemingly. >> exactly. i think it was technically a tornado . and it's technically a tornado. and it's unked technically a tornado. and it's linked to the very, very hot weather. they've been having there. there's a bit of speculation about what may have caused this. there's speculation that the yacht, which i think is mast was over 50m, was struck by lightning. obviously it's an aluminium mast. it really conducts electricity. there's also speculation that it was hit by a water pipe whipped up by a typhoon, which overwhelmed the yacht. it's extraordinary weather that's been created by this very , very hot spell that

this very, very hot spell that they're having off the coast way for anything to happen to you. >> in a sense, yes. i mean, this, you know, who knows? if he's still with us, it's going to emerge. but he just finished a 12 year legal battle in the us. he'd been sent there in cuffs, and he'd been freed. he'd given an extensive interview to the times only last month about regaining his freedom and his voice. and now tragedy potentially strikes his former business partner, him and his business partner, him and his business partner. >> yeah, in a in a in a car accident, which, you know, is a remarkably morbid coincidence. isn't it? but. yeah. coming up, coming up, coming up, what happens next . coming up, coming up, what happens next. here coming up, coming up, what happens next . here does hayden happens next. here does hayden wall have something to give back? >> he looks behind. >> he looks behind. >> yes, but before that, i've got a few more front pages for you, so stay

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. it's time to

reveal some more front pages for you.so reveal some more front pages for you. so here we go. we start with the daily mirror hero mum saves baby in sea house. this is the british mum who saved her baby's life as this superyacht sankin baby's life as this superyacht sank in a tornado tragedy. apparently she's called charlotte galonski. she's 36. she actually lost sight of the baby, so it got washed out of her arms. she's then managed to regrab this baby and hold it above her head for an hour or so. i mean , it just absolutely so. i mean, it just absolutely astonishing story. well done. well done for her. but you know , well done for her. but you know, look, let's be honest. unfortunately it is looking like increasingly bleak news for mick lynch. sorry, mick lynch, apologies mick lynch and his daughter and i think the four others who are, missing in this tragedy. let's just go to the daily express tycoon and daughter missing in yacht tragedy again. yeah. mike lynch and his daughter sadly missing, amongst others , have also got amongst others, have also got priti patel, their labourer, robbing pensioners. she's gone for, and i'm going to just go

back to the daily telegraph because a couple of decent other little stories here on the bottom of it, keir starmer backs working from home to boost productivity , and welsh or the productivity, and welsh or the welsh are warned over racist buildings, so welsh librarians should avoid holding meetings in quotes. racist buildings. apparently, decolonisation experts have arrived of advice libraries across wales have been given the task of becoming anti—racist, in line with the devolved labour government's pledge to eradicate systemic racism by 2030. is this tosh, carol? >> it's total tosh, total stupidity. i mean, you know , if stupidity. i mean, you know, if you look at any city in this country, it would have been built on slavery. you know, slavery happened. you know, it was disgusting. we know that now. but at the time it was happening, it was happening not just here, but all over the world. it was it was a fact of life. and if you go if you go around every city in route, out the buildings that were built

on, on money from slavery, well, you wouldn't be able to go anywhere. you'd have to. >> you couldn't visit the colosseum in rome. >> oh, exactly. well, yes, actually. well, there's i mean, loads of places. >> yeah, but this mindset is stupid. i mean, this achieves nothing. you know, they think they're they're actually they're fuelling the fight against racism. no they're not, they're fuelling the fight against division and stupidity. >> we've also apparently now going to have starmer benjamin telling everyone to work from home. in a way sir keir starmer is back. more working from home after number 10 warned a culture of presenteeism is bad for productivity. would you agree with that? >> i mean, one of the big problems that we have in this country is that people are pretty miserable. they haven't been paid properly and their work lives aren't as satisfying as they often found them 10 or 20 years ago. and i sofa all day, i think a really good attitude for well, i wish they would. they might watch you and ask, well, that's what most of them do. >> sit on the sofa and watch telly. this morning we can complain about the most watched programme, funnily enough, but you know, people working from home. >> i think this is a good thing

because people need to get their quality of life back. i think we've become an unhappy country and we know that lots of experiments with four day working weeks have found that productivity is higher than five days. >> also, tosh, because lots of councils have done they've done reports and they try to say that it worked and it turned out they didn't. >> why should people be paid for working five days a week? and the only thing i would say is, having worked in law firms and other businesses, i actually think it's particularly younger people who are entering the workforce who really suffer from this working from home culture because they miss the opportunity to create social networks with people who are more senior in the business. they lose the opportunity to learn via osmosis, listening to other people and their interactions in the office. and actually lots of them don't have actually lots of them don't have a nice , expensive garden office a nice, expensive garden office that they can put in there in a one bedroom flat. they've got nowhere to study. so actually, you know, we need to understand that going to work and people's mental health, a lot of it is about the social interaction that you can get in the office environment. and if you rob that away from workforces by shutting the office, it doesn't help

people. whether they're productive or not is a different question. it's actually just bad for britain and bad for britain's workforce. >> i do actually agree with all of ofwat. well, there we go. >> it's the first time for everything. >> but what i would point out is that a lot of young people live quite if they work in a big city, they probably live quite a long way away. so it's, you know, it can be two hours commuting there and back each day. so that's a lot of time. so you can understand they don't love that. but also you've got people who have young kids maybe care for relatives, elderly people in their lives. for them, flexible working to be able to be at home can have a massive impact on their quality of life. and i don't think we gain anything from dragging them away from their kids. >> now, just just to return quickly, if you don't mind, to a story i covered with a guest a bit earlier on, which is about whether or not it's right that yvette cooper has said that misogyny should be treated as a form of extremism. okay. and do we think that that's that's a good thing? so, jake, what do you reckon? >> well, i think it's very dangerous. misogyny is an appalling worldview and viewpoint and nothing that anyone with a brain should ever

agree with. but if you start designating people who you disagree with as terrorists, or that viewpoint represents terrorism, it's very, very dangerous. and it's not right. we all know what terrorism looks like. it's the campaign by the ira. and, you know, irish republicans in the in the 1980s, the appalling terrorism attack we've seen in manchester at the at the ariana grande concert, it is not the same thing. people saying vile and horrible things about women. that is appalling. but it's not terrorism. >> no, i mean, this is it. so i mean, they're doing a lot of leaning on this terrorism stuff. benjamin. so they want to smash the gangs by using counter—terror laws. i think some of the things that we've seen with the protests, etc. again, are using the terror laws there. now, there's talk of misogyny. you know, we're going to use it as a basically a terrorism extremism law. i mean, you know, starmer's britain is everyone who doesn't agree with him. a terrorist. >> well, i think being strict on law and order is something that most people would be glad of. i don't really understand why they would want to use or apply the rules around terrorism, because that's the most extreme form, and i think it maybe is a bit

inappropriate, but the idea that you should include misogyny among things like racist and homophobic hate crimes, i think is right. that is right. >> but it's not terrorism. >> but it's not terrorism. >> it's a toxic thing and it is used . it demeans terrorism. used. it demeans terrorism. >> this is the thing. >> this is the thing. >> it certainly demeans women. >> it certainly demeans women. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, i do understand. but i think the idea of it dilutes is the best word i should have put if it dilutes terrorism. we all know what terrorism. we all know what terrorism looks like. it looks like the top of a bus being blown off on seven over seven. it looks like the tube strikes. it looks like the tube strikes. it looks like the, you know, westminster bridge. that's terrorism, right? it's not, you know, andrew tate or even even so i don't know is it, you know, terrorism. some bloke down the pub saying that, you know, making a joke, a lazy joke about, you know, how his wife will have dinner on the table for him when he gets home. you know, it's that kind of stuff. is that really terrorism? >> you know, i kind of. i just think it's really odd. you know, men are always talking about what's good for women. it's you. none of you three would ever know what misogyny looks like or feels like. but the bottom line is most women can handle it.

it's stupid men who who? you know, i get it all the time, and it's just stupid men who can think if they can't pull your arguments down. like when we talk, they'll. they'll say something about the way you look, the way you are about the fact you're a woman, the fact you're old, you're fat or whatever. that's what blokes do all the time, and they're stupid blokes. and i think most women recognise that. and you don't need a terrorist law. we don't need a terrorist law. we don't need it. >> yeah, but if being a stupid bloke made you a terrorist, then i think every that's 51% of the population is. >> it's not terrorism, it's stupid. you know, neanderthal blokes who have a certain worldview of women, which is the wrong view , obviously. but wrong view, obviously. but they're not terrorists. they're just idiots . just idiots. >> right. well, we'll have to see. we'll have to see how yvette cooper cracks on with that, of course. but right now, i want you to try to tell me, please, what is wrong with this celebration from team gb's gold medal winning triathlete alex yee . yee. >> alex yee, they're both running sub three minute kilometres easily. has alex got it back? he hits the front again now. has whale got something to give back? i don't think he

does. the kick comes again just as it did in paris. >> it's going to happen again on the black carpet here in boston. does hayden wilde have something to give back? he looks behind alex. he's not going to be comfortable, but he is going to be the winner. and he claims it again. >> and hayden wilde does not like that. >> he did not like that. why not like that? >> he did not like that apparently. so he beat that same opponent in similar fashion at the paris olympics just a few weeks ago. so no wonder that that opponent was fed up . i that opponent was fed up. i don't know if i mind about that, i don't know, does anyone think that it just looked like an idiot? >> look at him. he looks like a truculent baby. >> well, the guy who's complaining about yee. >> well, this one. >> well, this one. >> yee yee . >> yee yee. >> yee yee. >> the guy for folding his arms. he probably thought it was cool. there's not many triathletes that you look at and go, gosh, you're cool. and we probably wouldn't have heard of him that wasn't cool. >> that was just, well, i mean, he did win an olympic gold medal as well, so he probably would have heard it as my old mum would say, there is only one

thing worse than a bad loser, and that's a bad winner. okay? and i think you've got to be you've got to be a good winner. >> well, we're about to find out who's a winner on this because we're going to have to rattle through this. but can i please quite quickly have your greatest britain. >> all right. this is a bit off piece. jeremy clarkson in his hit show clarkson's farm, has showed us all the hard graft that the farm has put in to bnng that the farm has put in to bring us all food, but the great, the great advantage now is that, students applying to do agriculture degrees and to work in farming has gone up by 20% in the last three years, which is incredible. >> lovely stuff. mine is paul spiers, a street cleaner who the local residents got together to fund him finally going on houday fund him finally going on holiday and then they council tried to block it. the local mp, liam conlon, from earlier stepped in and managed to get a big company to give him the free holiday, and he's finally enjoyed it. best of british. >> all right, cash for holidays. my >> all right, cash for holidays. my hero of the week is hedgie harry who is a young man. i think he's 8 or 9 years old who is cycling 2000 miles across the uk to raise money to look after hedgehogs at the tiggy winkles

wildlife hospital. >> zigi winkles wildlife. right. lovely. so today's greatest britain is jeremy clarkson. oh, good. yeah. now we have one minute left on the show. oh, come on, it's the royal tiger thatis come on, it's the royal tiger that is prince andrew. >> he's consistently refused to get out of royal lodge. charles has finally found a way to kick him out. he's just getting rid of his ten strong security guard. so now he's going to have to move probably into a 3 or £4 million cottage. frogmore estate. it's not hot. >> my union jackass is the trolls that attacked jay slater. his mum has spoken to the sun yesterday and today. you know, as if it's bad enough losing your son. tragically, she's been abused endlessly online and those people are sick very, very quickly. >> so for the 10th and final time, liam conlon, who has been who has been sue grayson, who's been involved in a scandal of allegedly taking money from a union where he did take the money, but then then being involved in the pay negotiations, allegedly, i will, i will, i will reiterate labour deny any kind of wrongdoing here and to accuse him of any of that would be bang out of order. >> today's winner of the union

jackass is liam conlon. hey, sue grey's son. right. and i went last week , but it was cut off. last week, but it was cut off. thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank you to everybody. it's headliners next week in a bit of a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. very good evening to you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office . plenty of the met office. plenty of showers as we go through tomorrow and some blustery gusty winds too. but before then there's a lot of cloud. there's a lot of rain because of a frontal system that's already made its way in from the west. and as we go through the next 12 hours or so, it's going to continue to push east and southeastwards, bringing quite a wet story across many parts of england and wales for a time, with that rain feeding into the southeast as we go through the early hours of tomorrow morning behind it, there will be some clear skies around, but also some showery bursts, especially across parts of scotland. temperatures not dropping a huge amount. in fact, in the

southeast it is going to be another warm night, some places only falling to lows of around 17 or 18 celsius. as we go through tomorrow morning, though, there will be some hefty rain across the far east of scotland and the northern isles also plenty of showers feeding into western parts of scotland into western parts of scotland in between. something a little bit drier and brighter for some, but also more showers across northern ireland. some parts of northern northwestern england and in fact down the western side of england and wales. there will be some showers feeding in something a little bit drier and sunnier for more central eastern parts of england , although in parts of england, although in the far southeast that front will be lingering here for a time. so a grey, damp start to the day for some before that front clears away. by the afternoon behind it. for many, it is going to be a showery day and some of those showers will be heavy and there are some gusty, blustery winds to watch out for too, especially in the northwest, making it feel a little bit cooler for some. but there will also be some sunny spells. and in the east southeast in the sunshine, feeling quite warm with temperatures in the low to

gb news. >> good evening. from the newsroom at 11:00. your top story this hour. british tech tycoon mike lynch and his daughter are among six tourists missing after a luxury yacht sankin missing after a luxury yacht sank in a tornado off the coast of sicily. the british registered 56 metre bayesian had 22 people on board when it went down after being struck by the tornado. a body believed to be that of the vessel's cook has been found. divers are now combing the waters as search efforts continue around the wreck. 50m underwater so far , 15 wreck. 50m underwater so far, 15 people have been rescued, including the wife of mike lynch and a one year old girl. the us. has called on hamas to agree to a bridging proposal for agree to a bridging proposal for a ceasefire in gaza after it gained the backing of israel.

earlier, the us secretary of