oh well . oh well. >> good morning, and welcome to the camilla tominey show with me. olivia utley. >> whilst camilla is away on holiday, it's been a tragic week following the news of the sinking of the bayesian superyacht, sir david davis has vowed to campaign in memory of

mike lynch to scrap the extradition treaty between the us and the uk. >> he'll be joining me a little later to explain more. and the battle for the white house continues. i'll be speaking to labour mp for dover and deal mike tap, who's been in the us, speaking to kamala harris's team. we've already had 51 days of sir keir starmer as prime minister, if you can believe it, i'll be joined by former first secretary of state and minister for the cabinet office, damian green, to hear his thoughts on who he's backing for the tory leadership campaign, which we've almost forgotten about. and lieutenant general sir simon mayall will be here with the latest developments in the middle east and in russia and ukraine. finally, we'll be speaking to former mep patrick o'flynn on the immigration statistics that were released this week. former home secretary james cleverly was gloating on the conservative record whilst in office. but is he right to be so enthusiastic? to me, those immigration statistics look like a bit of a mixed bag. we've got 90 minutes of punchy politics lined up for you this morning, so don't even think of going

anywhere. and to go through the papers this morning, i'm delighted to be joined now by by john sergeant, former bbc chief political correspondent . now political correspondent. now john, very busy august sunday. we've got a really big trail for keir starmer's first big speech in downing street , which is in downing street, which is taking place on tuesday. it all sounds rather depressing for a brand new prime minister. >> it is depressing and of course, they're really having to confront the problem of what are they going to do in the budget on october the 30th? and that's pressing on them because people know it's going to be bad news. but from the government's point of view, he's laying it on about how bad it's going to be, saying, you know, tony blair used to say things can only get better. he says things will get worse before they get better. and there's a rot deep in the heart of britain. and he's going

on to say, if we don't take tough action across the board, we won't be able to fix the foundations of the country like we need. i won't shy away from making unpopular decisions. so i mean, it's pretty rough. and in the observer, they're saying pm digs in over winter fuel payments. so the people who think, oh, that can be a campaign. there'll be a u—turn. he's going to say apparently on tuesday, no, that's not going to happen. so it's all really very much the preparation, the battle for expectations. and of course, maybe it won't be so bad. we don't know. but the government is trying to make sure that don't think it's going to be good. it's going to be grim. and the sunday express is taking really the same point over bad news. really saying that because the prisoner release is planned. so the sunday express ministers failure to provide safeguards blasted by angry probation officers. so you've got the whole blame game really, about who's responsible. is it the tories after 14 years, or is it

keir starmer and his lot, what they've been doing in the last 50 days? >> i mean, it feels as though the ground is very much being laid for, for tax rises. >> but keir starmer and rachel reeves haven't given themselves very much wiggle room. i mean, over and over again during the campaign we heard that taxes on working people wouldn't rise, and he said that was national insurance , vat or income tax. insurance, vat or income tax. does that mean he's now sort of preparing the ground for a whole tranche of other tax rises? i mean, lots of talk about capital gains rise. >> yes. i mean, i think it may be that they're making it sound so grim so that it won't be so bad when we actually see the result. but there's no doubt that with the thresholds frozen, taxes are going to go up for all of us anyway. so i mean, it's really i think the centre of this argument is when, when a government loses an election as badly as the conservatives did. don't be surprised if people then say, well , that's because then say, well, that's because of the state of the country. and this happened before when labour lost in 2010. again, there was the feeling of, oh , labour, mess

the feeling of, oh, labour, mess it up. gordon brown was accused of being partly responsible for the international financial crisis of that time. so this battle over who's to blame is extremely important. and it may seem trivial to people, oh, they're going on like this. you know, they're saying this, they're saying that. but of course, if the tories are going to revive their fortunes, unless they can dispel the idea that when they're in power, things go wrong, they will not, in fact, get back into into office in any , get back into into office in any, in any reasonable time. >> i'm really interested in whether or not this narrative that everything's the conservatives fault will will stick. i mean. keir starmer, it sounds as though he's going to do a very visual speech on tuesday all about how the rot needs to be pulled out, not just covered up. it's all about fixing the systems from the bottom, etc. but won't quite a lot of people sitting at home think, well, yeah, the situation's not great, but the conservatives had a very rough ride. they had the war in ukraine to deal with. they had covid and the fallout of

lockdown to contend with shutting the economy for three years is obviously going to have consequences. and over the election campaign, we heard a lot of promises from keir starmer that he could make things better very quickly. do you think that the public will buy labour's message that the conservatives are almost entirely to blame for this, and that's why things are going to stay bad. >> well, some people will, some people won't. the trouble is that governments do tend to lose elections and they're blamed. i mean, it's just the unfairness of politics. if you're in government and you're unlucky as a government, that means the pandemic. that means the russian invasion of ukraine, not the responsibility of the government, our government. but it's luck and it's events and these things. people then do tend to get muddled because they they think , well, you know, why they think, well, you know, why have we got all this problem now? and it's partly because of all the borrowing which everyone agreed had to be made. there had to be borrowing during the pandemic. so that's one side of the argument. the other argument is, but what about growth coming back to the economy? surely that's good. but that takes ages

to come through to the system and gives you more revenue in order to spend money on the health service and all these other things. so at the moment, i'm afraid we're left with a political row going nowhere, but very important. and we all know we're all going to suffer. >> thank you very much, john. sergeant, a very depressing start to the day. it'll be really interesting to see how keir starmer's speech goes down with the public when we get it on tuesday, and we're now going to speak to david davis, a former brexit secretary, among other things , been around in the other things, been around in the conservative party for a really long time now. and he's been campaigning for civil liberties for pretty much his whole career. and now he's going to be mounting a campaign in memory of in memory of mike lynch to scrap the extradition treaty between the extradition treaty between the us and the uk. so, david, can you tell us a little more about that? >> yes. i mean, we've been we actually mike and i have been planning to do this. in any event before his terrible accident. but he had been he had

been, effectively paralysed in his career , for the last six his career, for the last six years, having some technical difficulties getting hold of david davis here. how'd you hear me ? hello? no can you hear me, me? hello? no can you hear me, >> sorry about this, john. some technical difficulties here, i wanted to get back. i mean, we're talking about the blame game. we've got massive overcrowding problem in british prisons at the moment. overcrowding problem in british prisons at the moment . and that prisons at the moment. and that the prime minister is now saying that he's going to have to release all sorts of prisoners early. that scheme is starting as early as the 10th of september. in to order address this issue. and obviously he's laying the fault of this directly at the former prime minister's feet. it's wrong to think that can be done to fix this problem anytime soon, because building lots and lots of prisons seems to be the answer. but again, that's not a quick fix. >> it takes time and effort. all

this trouble about using police cells, i mean, that is really that's almost a that is desperate because of course it means you have to keep them the magistrate has to agree to this, so it has to go back to the judicial system. you can't just simply say, oh, well, i'm going to put you into a police cell for a few weeks. it's not possible. so the whole system starts to snarl up. and that's where the problem lies. so inevitably what they're going to do is they're going to release about 5000 people early, and if any of those, if any of those prisoners then commit crimes , prisoners then commit crimes, violent crimes, people are going to say that is the government's fault . they shouldn't have done fault. they shouldn't have done it. they should have given more time, like the probation officers are saying, we should have had more time to put this plan of release into effect. so the government no on this, they are in charge of it. they get the blame. >> so i mean, the probation officers, this is a story in in the observer i think this morning probation officers are saying that they haven't been given enough time to to, help prisoners be in a situation where they can be released early. apparently they were told they were going to get eight

weeks to prepare prisoners to make sure they're not a danger to the public, and instead they've only been given four weeks. >> yeah, well, the trouble is, i mean, when things are going to go wrong and everyone knows they're going to go wrong, some people get ahead of it by saying, well, of course, if we'd had more time, i'm not sure more time would have helped very much. you can't build a prison in four weeks. you've got to get on with it. so the whole everyone knows there's a terrible collision happening here. and that more people are going to be released early. we know that definitely the moment that happens, as i say, the government are in danger. they are in serious danger. >> i mean, the government has said that violent criminals won't be eligible for this early release plan, but obviously there's, you know, there's a little bit of a grey area, isn't there? if someone is in prison for a burglary, they could be someone who at the next burglary would have used would have used weapons so that the difference between a violent criminal and a criminal who hasn't yet been violent might be quite slim in some cases. do you think there is quite a real danger of some

of these prisoners who are being released early, committing a crime and labour being held accountable for it? >> no, i mean, well, the government will be held accountable for it. the prison authorities will be held to account for it. the probation office will be held accountable for it. this is not the way to run a railway, not the way to run a railway, not the way to run a railway, not the way to run a prison. it really is just this is very, very tricky. and it made worse , obviously, by all it made worse, obviously, by all the people that have come in after the riots . so they're after the riots. so they're they're waiting or they're either waiting to go to prison or they're already in prison. but it means that all the possible places where they might go all the possible rooms they might have now they're being used up already. might have now they're being used up already . and the used up already. and the government, of course, are responsible for that. you know. did the sentences have to be so harsh? did so many people have to be arrested? all those issues might come up, particularly if there's no if there's no sign of any more riots and you'll say, wait a moment. that's sort of an old issue. and keir starmer was making it quite clear you have to move quickly so that people who are thinking of rioting realise that actually the moment

they do something like that, they do something like that, they will be arrested and the moment they're in trouble, they'll go to prison. >> i think that's a really interesting question about about the riots. and i can see it for exactly the reasons why you said why keir starmer acted so quickly. that said, some people suggested that he was behaving more like a sort of legal person , more like a sort of legal person, more like a sort of legal person, more like a sort of legal person, more like his former self than the politician that he is today. he would rather put as many people as prison possible than address the cause of the riots, which was immigration. do you think there's any truth in that? >> well, no, that's just the way it goes. i think everybody across the whole of the house of commons, once you get riots as violent as that , and we've seen violent as that, and we've seen the pictures, people don't know where this is leading to. so it's easy enough now to say, well , let's talk about well, let's talk about immigration. that's fine. and people have been talking about immigration for a very long time. so the idea that no one has mentioned immigration is pretty silly. but in terms of timing, when the riots were going on, i think people were terrified. i think people

thought , terrified. i think people thought, what's going to happen? and i think people in areas that weren't affected are still watching it on the screens in a way, they're watching it on television. almost more frightening than being there or being in areas which are quite near the riots because people going about their ordinary business. but for the rest of us watching it on screen, i must say i thought it was. i thought it was horrendous and not surprisingly, politicians of all sorts said this has got to stop. very few people were . they knew very few people were. they knew if they were encouraging the riot, people wouldn't forgive them for it. >> absolutely. i really, really tncky >> absolutely. i really, really tricky start for keir starmer in his first 50 days in office and having to having to put everyone in those prisons massively, massively exacerbating their overcrowding, problem has really going to cost him in the long run, really, really tough start . run, really, really tough start. >> and the issue now will rise. did they overreach themselves? there's always a problem in government when you come into government when you come into government for the first time, you start pulling the levers of power. nothing much happens. but if you pull the levers of power

and all these people are arrested and the whole system, we really have got power. so there's a danger. there's always a danger of governments if something goes well, if you like, in their terms of them overdoing it. >> thank you very much, john. sergeant, great start to the show . and coming up, i'll be joined sir david davis and labour

time well. welcome. welcome back. so much more to come. in the next hour i'll be joined by the labour mp for dover and deal. mike tap and former first secretary of state and minister for the cabinet office damian green. but first let's hear the news. the tatiana sanchez .

news. the tatiana sanchez. >> olivia, thank you very much. and good morning. the top stories. authorities say the suspect in a custody for a stabbing attack in western germany that killed three people and injured eight people, is a 26 year old syrian man. dusseldorf police say the suspect turned himself in and admitted to the crime. the islamic state terror group claimed responsibility for the knife attack, which happened in a market square, saying it was carried out by one of its members. and today a german federal prosecutor has confirmed that to be true . a church that to be true. a church service has been taking place today to remember and pay respects to those who lost their lives. four of the wounded are in a life threatening condition . in a life threatening condition. elsewhere, overnight barrages of missiles were fired from israel towards lebanon as the israeli military confirmed it launched strikes on hezbollah targets early this morning. israel has confirmed that it struck more hezbollah targets in southern

lebanon in the last hour or so. israel called them pre—emptive strikes after officials detected evidence of a large scale attack planned by iranian backed hezbollah . hezbollah has hezbollah. hezbollah has confirmed it started phase one of an attack on israel this morning, beginning by firing a wave of hundreds of rockets and drones towards israel. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, says israel would take all measures necessary to defend itself after hezbollah launched the airstrike on israel in retaliation for, they say, killing a senior commander. today's attack came as egypt hosts a new round of talks aimed at ending israel's war against hamas, now in its 11th month back home, sir keir starmer is set to warn that things will get worse in the uk before they get better. in a speech on tuesday. the prime minister is likely to say there are no quick fixes to remedy what he'll call the rubble and ruin left by the conservatives. he'll also continue to argue that the last

government concealed the true state of the public finances. but the conservatives have accused labour of fabricating a financial black hole to clear the way for tax rises, and have called for starmer to reverse his chancellor's cuts to winter fuel payments, arguing these would leave pensioners in the cold. well, chancellor rachel reeves began that theme in her statement before the summer recess, accusing the tories of leaving a £22 billion black hole in this year's budget and immigration enforcement officers have detained 75 suspected illegal workers as part of a week long crackdown. officers visited more than 225 businesses in the past week, particularly car washes, with over 120 receiving civil penalties for employing illegal workers, according to the home office . according to the home office. the home secretary, yvette coopen the home secretary, yvette cooper, says the government will ensure those who break the rules face the full force of the law . face the full force of the law. businesses found to be employing people illegally face fines of up to £45,000 per worker for the

first offence, and up to 60,000 per worker for repeat offenders . per worker for repeat offenders. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez, back at 11 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to the camilla tominey show with me olivia utley. lots more still to come in. just a minute. i'll be joined by the labour mp mike tap, where we'll be discussing his recent trip to america and how kamala harris is faring in her campaign. and i'll be pressing him on the controversy surrounding the government's decision to cut winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners. i'll also be joined by former first secretary of state and minister for the cabinet office, damian green.

who does he think will will emerge on the top of the tory potential leaders ? and after potential leaders? and after keir starmer's first 51 days, how hopeful is he for the conservatives chances at the next next election ? are we ever next next election? are we ever to see a peace deal in gaza at the moment it's looking further away than ever. lieutenant general sir simon mayall will be sharing the latest. and finally, i'll be joined by the former mep, patrick o'flynn, to discuss keir starmer's shambolic record on immigration. just 51 days into his premiership . but for into his premiership. but for now, i'm delighted to be joined by former brexit secretary sir david davis, mp for goole and pocklington, sir david. it's lovely to see you again now i want to talk to you today about this campaign that you're launching in memory of mike lynch to scrap the extradition treaty between the us and the uk . treaty between the us and the uk. can you explain a little bit more to our viewers about that ? more to our viewers about that? because this very, very complicated ten year battle for mike lynch, i just want to hear a bit more about the detail. >> well, it goes back even

further than that . the, the further than that. the, the labour government under tony blair shortly after 9/11 in 2003. introduced an agreement, a treaty with the american government to accelerate extraditions, supposedly in both directions, and supposedly for terrorist offences, that was you know, perfectly commonsense thing to do. but what's happened in the subsequent 20 years or so has been that it's been used by the american justice department for all sorts of non—violent commercial offences , if you commercial offences, if you like. and, mike lynch , who died like. and, mike lynch, who died earlier this week in a tragic accident or meeting of the weekend. tragic accident, had been caught up in this. he'd sold his company autonomy to, to hewlett—packard for, i think, about 11 billion. i mean, it was sold on the stock exchange. it wasn't the sort of private deal. and, shortly afterwards,

autonomy decided they didn't like the price they paid for it, and they accused him of fraud. it was a bogus accusation . and it was a bogus accusation. and but he spent the last ten years first trying to resist that accusation and then trying to resist extradition to the united states, unsuccessfully . it sort states, unsuccessfully. it sort of paralysed in many ways, much of paralysed in many ways, much of his business life. this is one of this is probably our best businessman, the man who's created more value in our economy than anybody else, and indeed any number of other people put together a fantastic software scientist, fantastic entrepreneur . and he was entrepreneur. and he was basically stuck trying to defend his freedom. and he went as far as i can understand. >> sorry. i just want to i just want to get get to the get to gnps want to get get to the get to grips with this, that your problem with the, with the treaty is that it's sort of lopsided in favour of the us. there are far more people in britain, british citizens who are being extradited to the us. is that the case and if so, why is that the case? why are we not

just doing exactly the same thing? >> well, that that is the case. i mean, partly because the americans have a constitution which protects their citizens, but also partly because the way british law works, british law takes international treaties very seriously. it makes them superior to most other law . and superior to most other law. and so when someone like lynch, comes along, instead of being tried here, for in the uk, after all, the company was a uk company, it was built up in the uk, it was sold in the uk, it was bought by a european offshoot of hewlett packard. it should have been tried here properly , they did it in the properly, they did it in the states and they insisted on it. and it's not the first time this has happened. any number of times. you might remember the natwest five, you might remember somebody called mike tapper, a whole series of people, and it's one sided and that one sidedness also reflects that it's unjust. i mean , it should never have i mean, it should never have been the case. that mike lynch went to america to defend

himself basically 12 months, in a trial, which would have ended up with him serving 25 years in prison if the americans had won, if the american justice had won. now, i don't want to scrap all extradition. what i want to do is to say, let's just reduce this to what it was first intended for, which is violent terrorist offences, not commercial offences, you know, but if somebody if somebody plots, you know , something plots, you know, something against the united states in the uk, then fair enough, we should extradite them. but if somebody simply engaged in normal business, then we shouldn't allow american law to apply. in britain, we're not a colony after all. >> is there a danger, potentially, hypothetically, of a british citizen being extradited to the us, to a country, to a state which still has the death penalty? >> yeah, i don't know that that's not really a danger. there's a there's an implicit

agreement in this that they wouldn't exercise the death penalty. and we've we've seen this with actual terrorist , this with actual terrorist, suspects in the past. so no, that's not really a danger. but this but this basically , i mean, this but this basically, i mean, you may remember, a little while ago, a man called harry dunn was ago, a man called harry dunn was a motorcyclist who was run down by a woman called anne sacoolas, and there was no doubt that she did it. she was driving on the wrong side of the road. it was driving without due care and attention, i guess. or dangerous driving, she admitted to that, but she fled the country and the americans wouldn't send her back.even americans wouldn't send her back. even though she was an american government employee. in fact, they said , oh, well, fact, they said, oh, well, because she's an american government employee, this doesn't apply. well you know, that's that's them interpreting the law to suit themselves, both with respect to their own citizens and to our citizens. it's very unfair. it's very uneven. it's very unfair. it has really, really serious consequences for individuals and also really serious consequences for the economy. i mean, why why

would you launch a tech company on the london stock exchange if you're going to have to, when you're going to have to, when you eventually sell it, probably to some big american tech company, do it under american law, why would you do that? why not just put it in new york in the first place? so that's going to do harm to. and we talked i talked all these things through with mike. and we were going to run a campaign together on this, and amongst others, now he's died . i'm and amongst others, now he's died. i'm going to i'm going to do it, as it were, in his memory. >> thank you very much. i mean, really good luck with this campaign. it sounds fascinating, and i hope it gets through parliament. can i just ask you very, very quickly before you go? we are in the middle of a conservative leadership campaign. who would you like to see come out on top? >> i haven't i haven't , publicly >> i haven't i haven't, publicly backed anybody yet. i'm waiting to see who is now at the moment, well, no, no, no , i want to see well, no, no, no, i want to see who's best at opposition. this opposition is very different from government. almost. i think almost none of the people who are standing have actually had offers in opposition . and i want

offers in opposition. and i want to see who's good at it. and so far they've all been very perfectly , perfectly plausible. perfectly, perfectly plausible. but i want to see them. somebody take keir starmer apart. when they do that, i'll vote for them. >> everyone's been perfectly plausible, a very tactful answer there from david davis. thank you so much forjoining us on the show. i'm now joined by mike tapp, labour mp for dover and deal tapp, labour mp for dover and deal. so you've been in the us for the last week or so. i think speaking to kamala harris's team, what have you been doing there? can you tell us a bit about your trip? >> it was a really interesting trip , essentially what we're trip, essentially what we're doing. we went over in january, a group of candidates at the time to learn from the americans and the democrats and looking at their campaign methods , etc. we their campaign methods, etc. we went back out, obviously, after our landslide victory, to impart some of our knowledge as to what we learn on the campaign trail and look at what they're doing with their campaign. it's really interesting, actually. and one of the big messages that i was taking over there was to ensure

that with their campaign, they do what we did, and that is listen to what working class, hard working people want. don't ignore them . and for me in dover ignore them. and for me in dover and deal are perfect. example of thatis and deal are perfect. example of that is worries and concerns around immigration. you know these people have valid concerns. they're not racist. we must drop that sort of rhetoric and deal with these issues. just like keir starmer and yvette cooper are doing. and it does look like kamala and her team are going down that route as well, which is great. i mean, yes, you did. >> you did a great job of winning dover and deal. i'm not not taking that away from you at all. but your majority now is you only got it because the conservative vote was split with the reform vote. is that something that you were at all worried about? you talk about being very serious about immigration reforms, being serious about immigration, and people are taking them seriously. do you think you need to take some lessons from nigel farage? >> i mean, you could also argue in dover, for example, that the green and the lib dem vote combined would give you over 50%. so it works both ways. but those voters who are concerned

about immigration haven't been ignored by me or by the party. and you can see that already with our immigration policy. remember, it's only 50 days. and, you know, there is a common sense approach to this that it doesn't happen overnight. we started recruiting for the new border security commander. we've already recruited over 100 new intelligence officers who are working across europe. we've conducted nine deportation flights. we're looking at 1000 officers being brought into a specific deportation unit. so there's a hell of a lot of work going on behind the scenes. but these things do take time to have a real impact. >> but i mean, the immigration statistics out this week, very, very complicated mixed bag. it did show that the small boat arrivals were beginning to go down under rishi sunak. and part of that may have been because although the rwanda plan wasn't yet up and running, it was beginning to deter people. your government doesn't really seem to have a proper disincentive to stop people wanting to come over here. isn't that going to be a bit of an issue? >> well, i think firstly, rwanda

was a gimmick that costs a hell of a lot of money. that was wasted and it would have taken up to 100 years to deport those that have crossed in that way. it simply wasn't a deterrent. look, you know, you could argue that with 25% lower because of the first 50 days in government, but that's not the case, right? let's be realistic here. we've got a lot of work to do. and the deterrent that we bring in is twofold. firstly, we're going to smash the gangs. we're bringing in the likes of m15 with those extra powers and tools to take the gangs, though. >> i mean, it's easier said than done.the >> i mean, it's easier said than done. the conservative government obviously wanted to smash the gangs. these gangs are very nimble. they move all over the place. there isn't some sort of big boss crime man who can just be got out of the way. absolutely. how are you going to do about it? >> i've worked against serious and organised criminals with the national crime agency, but also in a counter—terror role. so i've seen the difference that those extra powers and tools make. so bringing in m15 to this fight will have a big impact. of course, it's not the full answer, but we will be their worst nightmare. of course, it takes time to pursue and bring these evil criminals to justice,

and a part of that also is disruption. it's not all about sticking them in prison as much as we'd love to do that, meeting that evidential threshold is often very difficult, but there are methods to disrupt these operations, too. and if we're deporting more , that shouldn't deporting more, that shouldn't be here, which we already are. that acts as a deterrent in itself. >> i mean, all of this sounds great. it also sounds quite expensive. you don't really have very much money. sir keir starmer said over and over again dunng starmer said over and over again during the election campaign that he wouldn't be raising taxes on working people. you can tell from the trail of the speech that he's going to give on tuesday that he feels that the country's coffers are basically empty and yet you are giving these inflation busting pay giving these inflation busting pay rises across the public sector . there are estimates that sector. there are estimates that it could be worth about £13 billion. couldn't that money be better spent on, for example, winter fuel payments for pensioners or some of these fantastic measures to stop the gangs that you're talking about here? >> yeah. so we have inherited a

mess. the highest tax burden since the second world war. and borrowing is at its highest since the 60s. plus this black hole that we've inherited as suppuen >> you talk about the black hole. >> this is all quite easy to say. what about the public sector? >> the money that we're investing in the border security command is all fully funded by scrapping this gimmick rwanda scheme. and when it comes to things like winter fuel payments, i have a lot of sympathy with that . but they are sympathy with that. but they are targeted and means tested. so those that do need it will receive it. we're also looking at, you know, around 900 will need it, will receive it. >> we know that there are lots and lots of people who might be eligible for pension credits, but don't know they're eligible. >> 900,000 and what i've said to my constituents, and i say this to viewers, if you think you might be eligible, please get in touch with your mp or you know, use the internet to check that out, because there are around 900,000 people who are eligible. so there is that extra help. but there's also i must talk about there's also i must talk about the long term plan here. so there is short term support for people. but the reason this is happening is because we've

inherited an energy system that essentially means when there are, you know, the likes of putin who are causing the disruption that they do, the energy prices go up. if we can go fully renewable by 2030, which is our ambition, it does give us more control over those prices. so we do have long term plans here as well. and this is why keir starmer is going to be really clear. and he has been that we are inheriting a mess andifs that we are inheriting a mess and it's not easy. >> well, inheriting a mess. but we've seen ed miliband sort of running full, full steam ahead for net zero by 2030. laudable aim . but the truth is that this aim. but the truth is that this country is still very, very reliant on gas. it's still very reliant on gas. it's still very reliant on gas. it's still very reliant on fossil fuels. and it sometimes feels as though your government is sort of acting for the world that we want to be in, rather than the world that we're actually being. and for the time being, you know, there are times when wind energy only provides 1% of the energy that we need . 1% of the energy that we need. in those times we need our gas, we need our oil, and those pnces we need our oil, and those prices are going up. your government said that it was

going to do something about that. it said that it was somehow going to stop the energy providers charging so much. do you still believe that now you're in office? >> absolutely. so. so this takes time and wind is a part of the solution. there's also obviously nuclear. and what we're looking at doing is creating essentially at doing is creating essentially a self—sustained energy system. so the likes of putin can't have control over our energy prices. and that's really important. but in the short term, you know , in the short term, you know, there are pension credits and winter fuel help for those that need the help desperately. what we can't do is continue down the road that the conservatives have set us on, which is, you know , set us on, which is, you know, reliance on the likes of putin to provide us with our energy supplies. so this is a really positive way forward that will not only bring down costs, but also create thousands of jobs and growth. and we haven't had growth for a long time, over over a decade. well, minimal growth in lots of people, particularly people in port talbot, will be thinking or believe that when we see it. >> but yeah, you've got your time and now's your chance to shine another another issue. i mean, you talk about

overreliance on on putin, which is of course, deeply, deeply worrying. we are in a globally very, very unstable world. we need a proper army for that sort of world. we need a proper navy . of world. we need a proper navy. rishi sunak promised over the election campaign that he would raise spending to 2.5% of gdp, pretty much every senior army and navy official who i've spoken to thinks it should be even higher than that. keir starmer won't commit to 2.5%. why is that? and do you think he's right? >> well, firstly, i come from a military background. i know before going into serious organised crime and counter—terror work and we do need to raise that funding for the military. and keir starmer has actually been really clear that the ambition is to get to 2.5, be really clear that the ambition is to get to 2.5%. >> he hasn't put a time on that. >> he hasn't put a time on that. >> the conservatives didn't get to 2.5% >> the conservatives didn't get to 25% even. they had. they had 14 years. so you know we're not going to sit here and make promises that we can't deliver because the public are fed up of that. so what we're saying is when we fiscally can, we will raise that threshold to 2.5%.

and that's really important that we're realistic with that. >> i suppose the danger is that, you know, when we fiscally can, putin isn't going to be waiting around until when we fiscally can raise that defence budget. do you think that the labour government should raise the defence budget to 2.5% of gdp by the end of that five year term, yes or no? >> look, the answer is, is when it's fiscally when we are fiscally in a position to do so. and it's as simple as that. i'd love to be able to say yes, but we've got to be responsible with the nation's purse strings. simple as that. >> thank you very much, mike. really good to speak to you. thank you . and in just a minute, thank you. and in just a minute, i'll be speaking to the former first secretary of state and minister for the cabinet office, damian does he think the can make a comeback

and welcome back to the camilla

tominey show on gb news with me, olivia utley. and i'm really pleased to be joined now by the former first secretary of state and minister for the cabinet office, damian green. thank you so much for coming in to talk to us today. you until very recently were the were the mp for ashford. you lost that constituency by a pretty narrow margin. reform did quite well in your constituency. rishi sunak obviously decided to go to the polls in july, when he could have waited it out until the end of the year. and i've heard quite a lot of conservative mps saying, hang on, shouldn't he have waited it out? the economic picture is looking a little bit better. the immigration statistics out this week aren't actually that bad. it looks as though the conservatives are doing quite well. do you think if rishi sunak had waited until the autumn, you might still be an mp? >> i mean, the truth is we'll neven >> i mean, the truth is we'll never. well, i would still be an mp now , certainly. but more mp now, certainly. but more importantly, would i be an mp after october? for what it's worth, i always thought october was was was the best date to do it. we'll never know is the is

the honest answer because things could could have got worse. but but i if i had to, you know, come down on one side or the other, i would come down and say, yeah, we should have waited. partly because our own party was was slightly wrong footed by going early . so footed by going early. so i think we would have done better in october than we did in july. >> well, what's your instinct about why he did decide to go early? was it that he was worried about sort of farage being able to get his ship in order by october? obviously back in the summer it looked as though reform weren't very organised. do you think that was it, or was he worried about big numbers of small boats crossing the channel over the summer? >> mike, i don't know, but my guessis >> mike, i don't know, but my guess is that he was worried that the courts would find some way of stopping the flights going to off rwanda, and the government would then be involved in a long dispute with the courts. and there's an interesting political question there of whether that might not have been quite a good fight for the government to have in the run up to a general election, because as you say, the other

background, the economy has been gradually improving despite all the nonsense. rachel reeves is talking about the worst economic inheritance since the second world war. it just isn't. we've had the growth figures for the first six months of this year, andifs first six months of this year, and it's pretty good. so people would have recognised that tough decisions had been taken and had some beneficial effect. so yes, as i say, on balance i would have i would have waited. >> but ultimately, as you say, i mean it sounds as though rishi sunak went early because he was worried about that rwanda plan because he was worried about immigration. it feels he was sort of brought down on the issue of immigration reform is on the rise because of the issue of immigration. is anything keir starmer saying about his plans to tackle immigration? do you think are you feeling at all optimistic about any of that ? optimistic about any of that? >> no, i think the i mean, this government will benefit from the fact, from decisions taken by the previous government about legal migration. so of taking away a lot of the ability to have family visas. i think that will that is we've seen that that's reducing the numbers. but on illegal migration, on the on

the small boats, everything this government is doing is likely to make it worse. it seems to me that they've cancelled the rwanda scheme. they've got nothing to replace it. they keep talking tough about, you know, we'll have more people in some border command here. well that's fine, but actually all this criminality is happening in other countries where the british police is writ doesn't run. so that's pretty second order stuff. you need some deterrent . deterrent. >> well you need some deterrent. and also it feels as though you probably need her. his majesty's official opposition . you're official opposition. you're saying that that labour are not making a proper case on illegal migration, but it feels as though the conservatives are kind of missing in action. are they just waiting for a new leader? and who's that leader going to be? >> well, i mean, to some extent, when you're having a leadership campaign, it is quite difficult to prosecute normal opposition politics. and also , nobody wants politics. and also, nobody wants to listen to an opposition party that's just lost a general election big time. so let's be realistic about this. on on the

second question, i hope that the next leader is going to be tom tugendhat. i think tom has got the mixture. he's as security minister background in the military. he's he's absolutely up there on all security affairs, which is what really matters in a difficult and increasingly dangerous world. but also he's producing domestic policies that i think are really interesting. he gave an interview to the daily telegraph yesterday talking about family policy and how we need to find ways to use the tax system to effectively encourage people not to wait as long as they are now to wait as long as they are now to have families that actually would, you know, would we need to do something about that which all sound like very sort of sound conservative ideas. >> but the truth is rightly or wrongly, tom tugendhat has a has a reputation among the party membership and among more right wing conservative mps for being a little bit wet. do you think he can brush that off and how can he go about doing that? because at the moment it doesn't really look, even if he does

make it onto the final two as though he'll win with the membership, i think of all the accusations you can make against tom, the idea that somebody who, you know, was a senior official in helmand at the height of i'm not saying that's what i believe at all, but i think that this is the narrative which has somehow got through. >> it's the narrative that other people will put about it, but it's completely untrue. and he is having a very successful tour around the conservative membership at the moment so they can meet him and if you like, sort of prod him and test him on these things. and they are discovering that that's not at all true, but but the other, the underlying point i would make is that if we're going to the next leader of the conservative party, to be successful is going to be measured by whether they can win a general election. and to do that, you need 10 or 12 million people voting for you, not just our members who, you know, many of them, my friends, i won you know i love them dearly, but nevertheless, just because they're members of a political party, they are by definition unrepresentative of the wider electorate and the conservative party. one of the steps we've got to take are the

many steps we've got to take to make ourselves credible again is to look outwards rather than inwards. so i want the next leader of the conservative party to say, i'm going to assemble a wide coalition again of some people who hold very right wing views, some people who hold centre right views and that coalition is what makes us successful. and that's why i'm supporting tom. >> i mean, the conservatives have made mistakes before. i think it's safe to say the conservative membership on who to elect as leader liz truss being one that springs to mind. is there anyone on those that sort of final shortlist that we've got emerging of conservative leadership contenders? who you think would be a disaster for the party? who would you least like to see as the new conservative leader? >> and to be fair , until i know >> and to be fair, until i know who the last two are, then, i mean, i'm talking. >> but of the btec pretty patel. >> but of the btec pretty patel. >> no, i mean robert jenrick they're all old colleagues and friends of mine. i've worked with them all closely in the past , so i'm with them all closely in the past, so i'm not going to diss individuals . i, you know, i have individuals. i, you know, i have

chosen i think, the best of, of the bunch of quite a good none of them would be as bad as liz truss, for example. well, i think it's i mean, none of them will be prime minister, which i think is the key thing. i mean, i think liz is prime minister was a disaster. let's let's not wrap wrap that up. but actually their job wrap wrap that up. but actually theirjob is to become prime minister and to do that, to be leader of the opposition for five years, which is a more difficult job. everyone who's ever been both leader of the opposition and prime minister agrees that, funnily enough, being leader of the opposition is a worse job. certainly. maybe not more difficult, but worse job with and you need a particular talent set to do that job. well, the reform vote is the sort of elephant in the room here, isn't it? >> reform got 4 million votes, perhaps lost you your constituency. do you think any of the conservative potential leaders have the power to win back that vote? and is that all about immigration or is there more to it, perhaps the family values that you're talking about? tom tugendhat espousing is important there. >> i think there's a lot more to it than immigration. but even before we get to that point , i

before we get to that point, i think if we start aiming campaigns at a particular sector of the electorate, which, okay, it's 4 million, it's a lot. it it's 4 million, it's a lot. it it did certainly cost us some seats, probably including mine. but nevertheless, if we just start focusing on that, then we will lose the next election. you cannot win an election by focusing on a relatively small sector of the electorate . the sector of the electorate. the any sensible conservative leader will be aiming at 12 or 14 million votes. i think john major won in 92. we can we can do much better than that. and the danger is if we focus on one wing of the party or one sector of the electorate , then we are of the electorate, then we are condemning ourselves to being a minority party. and that would be terrible for the country and obviously fatal for the conservative party. >> keir starmer has this massive majority , majority, >> he's still relatively popular in the country. he's more popular than boris johnson was. two months after winning his election victory. are there any issues where you think the prime

minister is weak and where a new conservative leader could really tap in and get back some of that vote and show the prime minister what the conservatives are for. really. >> well, it's i mean , it's the >> well, it's i mean, it's the economy, stupid. >> in that famous clinton era phrase . and i think labour phrase. and i think labour having said they're all about growth, have taken a number of decisions already that are inimical to growth , closing all inimical to growth, closing all new north sea oil and gas licences, for instance, that is taking out a successful industry in scotland. that's insane. it's anti—growth . refusing to build anti—growth. refusing to build anti—growth. refusing to build an ai supercomputer. anti—growth. refusing to build an ai supercomputer . that's an ai supercomputer. that's those are the industries of the future. >> just on on that point about energy, do you think ed miliband is rushing too fast towards net zero? >> i don't think he's rushing too fast towards net zero. i just think he's taking all the wrong steps to get there. his his big idea is great british energy and i'm genuinely not clear what it is. it's not going to produce any energy . it to produce any energy. it appears to be some sort of bank. >> i mean , it sounds as though

>> i mean, it sounds as though you have quite a lot of ideas. >> it sounds like you've still got quite a lot left to give politics. would you like to make a return to frontline politics, perhaps in the lords? >> well, i think my future is a up in the air. i'm not sure what what i'm going to do yet and, and other things. it's decisions. >> you wouldn't run again at a by—election, for example . by—election, for example. >> i have no particular desire to get back into the house of commons. i had 27 years. it's enough. but but i absolutely want to support, as i say, i hope tom tugendhat. but whoever the next leader of the tory party is with ideas, with a thought of how the conservative party can make itself relevant again, it's got to do it on the economy. as i say, essentially. but also there are other issues. labour's terrible decision, on the winter fuel allowance has, out of the blue and with no , out of the blue and with no, forewarning at all, alienated 10 million pensioners. this government is vulnerable and over a few years will be vulnerable to a competent, well led tory party. >> this government is vulnerable. a very optimistic

message there from a former conservative mp. thank you very much , damian green. really, much, damian green. really, really good to speak to you. thank you . and coming up next thank you. and coming up next i'll be joined by lieutenant general sir simon mayall as the situation in the middle east seems to

us. and welcome back to the camilla tominey show on gb news with me olivia utley. now i'm joined in the studio now by former deputy chief of defence staff, lieutenant general sir simon mayall , thank you so much for mayall, thank you so much for coming in to talk to us. and obviously this is a very difficult morning. can you just explain to our viewers who might just be tuning into the news for the first time, exactly what's happened overnight? >> yes. well, certainly, according to the israeli defence forces, what they have done is launch a series of attacks on hezbollah, who largely dominate southern lebanon, which is on

the northern border of israel, .

that seems to have taken place. hundreds of more missiles have gone over, and the israelis have gone over, and the israelis have gone into, as they say, pre—empt an even larger attack, which is what hezbollah claimed they were going to do. >> and obviously, the worry is that this sort of extends to the broader middle east already is extending to the broader middle east, and then the rest of the world has to get involved . the world has to get involved. the dream solution is a ceasefire . dream solution is a ceasefire. it now is falling further away than ever. is that right? >> it is because what you've got, of course, is the state of israel a government in a country that's recognised by the un negotiating with the terrorist group hamas. of course, hamas are both a terrorist group and represent the palestinians. so the whole issue is very, very sensitive because the whole palestinian issue and hamas are still holding hostages. and netanyahu, of course , reputation netanyahu, of course, reputation is built on securing israel's border and getting the getting the hostages back. so everybody's sort of to an extent backed into a bit of a corner , backed into a bit of a corner, oven backed into a bit of a corner, over, over, over many issues to do with the long term underlying

problems of the, the gaza palestine—israel issue. >> well, exactly. i mean, israel has said that, you know, this war won't be over until hamas is destroyed completely. is it realistic ? is that a realistic realistic? is that a realistic goal for israel to destroy hamas entirely? >> well, no, it's not really. but up to a point, you can destroy the capability of hamas to do anything equivalent to the 7th of october. the worry, of course , is that hezbollah might course, is that hezbollah might do something similar, or iran might do do something similar. and the reality is, of course, for the hamas leadership is that they are being encouraged to come to a ceasefire and release the hostages . there's the hostages. there's conversations taking place in qatar as you know, doha, which is where the hamas political leadership were. haniyeh, who was killed in tehran, was based there, but all the leadership of hamas know that they are absolutely have a target on their back with the israelis that even if there's a ceasefire, even if hostages are released, that israel will never cease to hunt down the hamas leadership for the events of the 7th of october.

>> i mean, it feels as though that the global situation is getting more and more unstable. and just to get back to britain in all of this, our defence budget has been essentially hollowed out. if this war does get bigger, and obviously that's not what any of us want. are we? is britain prepared? is our army or are our armed forces generally prepared for this? >> well, i think as you with with mike touch, you said you know any admiral general air marshal has said we are underfunded. i'm not saying we spend our money as well as we should do. that's a that's a that's another important issue. but the reality is we have gaza. we don't want to see the hezbollah issue expand into a war between israel and iran to interstate war. we still have ukraine running. of course, we've given an awful lot of our own equipment, ammunition, supplies, missile supplies . i supplies, missile supplies. i don't think they've been properly restocked. and you are inclined to say, you know, the first responsibility of a government is security. >> and are you saying that then

that perhaps we were wrong to give away so much of our military arsenal to ukraine? >> no, i don't know. no, i think i think that was absolutely the right thing to do. but what a responsible government should have done is instantly make it clear that the treasury were going to we're going to restock those those supplies. and we fell out. you know, if you watch the bbc programme corridors of power about our intervention in libya, when these when these conflicts go on longer than we anticipate, we suddenly find we're running out of ammunition very quickly. these are very, very quickly. these are very, very logistically intensive operations. and that's where israel's prepared for this long haul israel's prepared for this long haul. and you could argue that we wouldn't be. and we'd have military men saying we can't commit because we're not fully equipped or restocked to do so. and that's bad if a government doesn't have that option. >> do you think keir starmer is taking defence seriously enough , taking defence seriously enough, because rishi sunak said that he was going to raise defence spending to 2.5%? >> he didn't do that in his 15 years in office. but keir starmer isn't even making that promise, he says. it's an ambition. we just heard mike sort of evading, sliding round

the issue. do you think he's taking the issue seriously enough? >>i enough? >> i think he probably is up to a point because he is now prime minister when he goes out to washington or he goes to berlin, or he goes to paris, or he goes to do i say , you know, tel aviv to do i say, you know, tel aviv or wherever, people will say, well, i hear what you're saying. that's very grand. and we love your diplomatic intervention and your diplomatic intervention and your sweet words, but where's the beef? what have you got? you know, the british military don't look as well balanced or as well equipped as they are. so he will find as a prime minister that he is he is going to be held accountable. and britain's place in the world depends on our capacity as a permanent member of the un security council, leading member of nato, great cheerleader for support for ukraine, that a certain stage that costs money and, you know, to govern is to choose, you know, where are you going to put that, you know, where are you going to put your spending priorities? >> well, thank you very much to simon mayall a message that we're hearing over and over again from to keir starmer to govern is to choose. he has a lot of very, very difficult choices on his plate. thank you again for coming in. now up next, i'll be joined by former

mp patrick o'flynn to hear why he thinks starmer's stance on immigration already after just 51 days crumbling

and welcome back to the camilla tominey show on gb news with me olivia utley. now i'm going to be joined by patrick o'flynn, a former brexit mep. patrick immigration is the topic of the week robert jenrick potential conservative leader is saying that he has what it takes to fix the crisis. keir starmer still seems to be treading quite lightly around the issue. who do you think of the conservative potential leaders has what it takes to to, fix this crisis, or at least to show keir starmer that there is another way .

that there is another way. >> good morning olivia. well, i think if you if you look back on the 14 years of conservative led governments , you would probably governments, you would probably have to say that that none of them are , because of the them are, because of the enormous scale of immigration, both legal and illegal, over which the conservatives presided, you know, in flagrant breach of their promises. i do think robert jenrick has got, a modicum of a case to present that, you know, he resigned from the government over his unhappiness , both on the volume unhappiness, both on the volume of legal immigration and the lax, arrangements that principally the boris johnson administration put in place, and also the limitations on the rwanda plan that he saw would mean it would never work at scale. and he was proven right on both cases. i have to say, though, that that sort of going back further than a year, robert jenrick seemed to be more of a sort of standard issue david cameron type of , of tory. and if

cameron type of, of tory. and if you look back to the 2022 summer leadership contest, kemi badenoch was the one who came out and sort of, made immigration and reducing it a big issue. so those are the two that have got kemi badenoch. >> sorry , sorry to interrupt, >> sorry, sorry to interrupt, but kemi badenoch there's been a speech that resurfaced from a couple of years ago when she talked about encouraging higher levels of immigration to this country. and as for robert jenrick , he said he's jenrick, he said he's a eurosceptic. he might be now. he did vote remain. do any of these people have what it takes to win back those 4 million people who voted for reform at the last election? and if not, is this just going to be a labour led country for the foreseeable future? >> well, look, i think all the political parties have problems and limitations. i think, you know , keir starmer, we read in know, keir starmer, we read in the telegraph , for instance, the telegraph, for instance, today is making a speech on tuesday where he will openly say things are going to get worse.

you know, the opposite of the tony blair, dream anthem before they get better, he says, but i'm not sure i see a way that things are going to get better under labour, because i don't think their solutions to the big problems will work. if you look at reform, they certainly at the moment i think would, would, would be the party that's, connected on immigration control . connected on immigration control. but they have limitations to do they really have a properly worked out policy platform. are they more of a kind of insurgency rather than any a party that could lead, country? >> well, that's the thing i mean, sorry, just i went to reforms , manifesto launch. all reforms, manifesto launch. all sounded lovely, but it all sounded, you know, completely unrealistic. very, very low taxes for almost everyone. huge amounts of child benefit, taxes for almost everyone. huge amounts of child benefit , for amounts of child benefit, for example, isn't reform at the moment just actually splitting the conservative vote and meaning that keir starmer will be in office for an awfully long

time ? time? >> no, i don't think so. i think many of those people who voted reform perhaps would have voted conservative in 2019, but weren't going to vote conservative, you know, come hell or high water at the last election, many more of them will probably have stayed at home if reform wasn't on the ballot. so i think the conservatives fundamental problem is even among their 121 remaining mps , among their 121 remaining mps, they're split probably 60% so—called one nation. as people like me sometimes refer to that as no nation because they're so averse to border controls. and maybe 40% more of a traditional pro—sovereignty element. and if you're asking, say, that the millions of people who voted reform and the many millions more who are who are now polling shows very alarmed by excessive immigration. if you're asking them to put their trust in a party, they're not really going to be attracted to a party who has 60% of its its parliamentary presence, who doesn't believe at

all in taking drastic measures to reduce immigration. >> i mean, the conservatives are in a pretty dire state. just really quick question. i asked the same to damian green. is there anyone who you think on there anyone who you think on the final sort of ballot list who would be a total disaster for the conservatives and will get them into an even worse state than they're in at the moment , moment, >> i don't think any of them, you would say will definitely lower the tory poll rating below its current average, which i think is averaging 22% in the five polls we've had since the general election. so i wouldn't dam any of them like that. but i but it's a long, long haul to get into the high 30s or 40, to win a general election. clearly. >> well, absolutely. i think it's an incredibly difficult situation for both the conservatives and of course, for labour and keir starmer today. thank you so much , patrick, and thank you so much, patrick, and to all my guests this week, camilla will be back next week. but up next it's andrew doyle

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afternoon, maybe some glimmers of sunshine just moving in across the far west of scotland. but for most of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, it's a fairly wet end to the day. some heavy outbreaks in places and also fairly windy here too. further south, across the rest of england and wales, some breaks in the cloud giving some breaks in the cloud giving some late spells of sunshine . some late spells of sunshine. also just the risk of some spots of rain, especially for parts of wales and south—west england. and in fact, that cloud and rain across wales, south—west england will gradually spread its way eastwards across the rest of england as the night goes on. still some cloud and rain for scotland. northern ireland and northern england. but either side of these areas of cloud and rain in the clear skies, it will turn chilly in the countryside. but i think for most towns and cities holding up into double figures. so we start monday, a bank holiday for some of us with some cloud and rain across the far south—east initially, but that will clear its way towards the continent and for many parts of the uk. actually, it's going to be a fairly dry day. still, the risk of some thicker cloud

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