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been learned? next up, lessons been learned? next up, notting hill carnival's family day saw three stabbings, including of a mother with her child who is now said to be in a critical a life threatening condition this weekend. the metropolitan police admitted that the carnival was seen as an opportunity to commit crime. is it time to ditch the carnival ? it time to ditch the carnival? so we've got an action packed menu there. please get in touch with all your thoughts. you know how to do it. go to gbnews.com/yoursay. there's your show as much as mine. first, though, here's your news headunes though, here's your news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank you and good evening . the top stories. evening. the top stories. italian lawyer nancy dell'olio has paid tribute to her former partner, who she describes as her ex—husband. the former england manager sven goran
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eriksson after he died at the age of 76. nancy says i choose to remember the good times we shared and the moments that brought joy to our lives. the swedish national became the first ever foreign manager of the england men's football team in 2001. sven also managed a series of high profile clubs like manchester city, benfica, roma and fiorentina. eriksson had pancreatic cancer and at the beginning of this year he revealed he only had a year to live at best. his former england captain david beckham, posted an emotional tribute on social media, saying we laughed , we media, saying we laughed, we cried and we knew we were saying goodbye. sven, thank you for always being the person you've always being the person you've always been. passionate, caring, calm and a true gentleman. thank you sven, and in your last words to me it will be okay. the prime minister has said he'll be remembered for his tremendous contribution to english football, which brought joy to so many over the years . and fa so many over the years. and fa president prince william also
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paid respects on x, saying i met him several times and was always struck by his charisma and passion for the game. my thoughts are with his family and friends. a true gentleman of the game. in other news, residents of an east london block of flats engulfed by what they call a nightmare fire say they've lost everything. everyone has been accounted for and no injuries reported. after a major incident was declared following the fire in dagenham. over 100 people were evacuated from the building, with two people taken to hospital. london fire commissioner andy rose says a full investigation into the fire and its cause will now be underway. he says there will undoubtedly be concerns around the fire safety issues present within the building, and this will form part of our report. a british man killed by a missile strike in eastern ukraine has been named as safety adviser ryan evans. the 38 year old was part of a reporting crew working with the news agency reuters. when the hotel they were staying at in kramatorsk was struck on
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saturday. the agency says they're devastated by his death and are now urgently seeking more information about the attack. the strike also put two other journalists in hospital, one of them remains in a serious condition , and a senior condition, and a senior metropolitan police officer says he's tired of saying the same words every year after a woman attending the notting hill carnival with her child was stabbed. three people were stabbed. three people were stabbed yesterday at the annual event. the 32 year old mother is in a serious condition in hospital. police have also said that 15 officers were assaulted and 90 arrests were made on the first day of the event. a heavy police presence is still in place this evening for the main parade, as it continues to pass through the streets of west london. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. now. welcome to gbn. tonight i'm martin daubney. now it's the sleaze scandal that simply will not go away. and now keir starmer's biggest personal donor is under fire for having unrestricted access to the corridors of number 10 after it emerged that lord alli was given a downing street pass despite having no official role in government. now it's the latest in a series of controversial appointments across government , appointments across government, with several labour insiders given plum jobs in the civil service despite whitehall's supposed commitment to impartiality. now labour were supposed to end the sleaze and cronyism, yet now it seems a few quid to the right people gets you through the door. is this rank hypocrisy, or just the way that whitehall works? well, to get our teeth stuck into this? joining me now in the studio is the former political editor of
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the sun, the legend trevor kavanagh, and the former labour adviser matthew torbett. gentlemen, welcome to the show. why don't we start with you, matthew? as a former labour adviser. well, it's only fair. in opposition, the labour party were screaming from the rooftops at every opportunity. cronyism jobs for the boys. a few quid gets you access to power. and yet, in power, it seems precisely the same rules apply to the labour party. is this rank hypocrisy? >> i don't think it's a good look. i think it was interesting in your intro you said, is this just the way whitehall works? i actually just think, and this isn't to downplay it at all. i think it's how the world works. unfortunately, i was sort of brought up assuming and was told that you work hard, you get you get where you need to be, and actually you find out in life and particularly, you know, in politics, it's more about who you know rather than what you know. sadly, i think, some of the appointments, you know, there's in a way indefensible, it seems. i think there's i've seen henry newman and others
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say, who know this world a little bit better. i only ever sort of worked in opposition. but if you were to go in as sort of a junior policy advisor role and you were most sort of attached yourself to a politician stuck with them, similar to a political appointee, that sort of by the by, i think some of the higher level ones and people that have given donations and stuff, it stinks really , and i think, you stinks really, and i think, you know, i think the lord ali thing , know, i think the lord ali thing, though, is slightly different, i would say only because, he's a donon would say only because, he's a donor, a lot of money is given a lot of money to the labour party. >> half £1 million over 20 years. absolutely. >> it's not bad if you can get it. but, he's he's a he's a labour political appointee as well. he's, he's a politician. so i think it blurs the lines a little bit, that he's a labour lord. and he obviously came to prominence during the blair era and has a lot of experience. and i don't know what these meetings were that he had to attend to or felt like he needed to be at. and i think that muddies the water a little bit. but yeah, no, it's not a great look. >> some of the detail, trevor, i think is what's causing a little
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bit of embarrassment. £55,000 personally to sir keir starmer, including this fella used to be the chairman for asos, the clothing website , and that clothing website, and that included 16 grand for work clothing for sir keir starmer and two and a half grand for multiple pairs of glasses. so we're getting the phrase passes for glasses and doesn't it sort of roll out the idea that it's typical hypocrisy from a party in opposition to have a pop. yet as soon as they're in power, they're just the same. >> well, it isn't quite just the same because what they've done is usurped the process of selection for the civil service, which is supposed to be scrupulously impartial. and there's a selection process which comes with, first of all, making the job available. and the fact that it's available, known by advertising it. and then you get all sorts of people and maybe some of those who have got the job could have applied. but there is a process which has been completely circumvented here in order to apparently get round sue grey's ban on some of the special advisers who she
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didn't want. and so they've been brought in the back door as appointees with civil service status. and, you know, this really devalues the civil service claim to be impartial. and i think an awful lot of senior civil servants are outraged by it. what do you think? >> i don't disagree, i'm certainly not here to defend the labour party. i'll always call out what i think is right or wrong, i think actually the more shocking thing is somebody that tries to be a little bit fashion conscious is that he's getting his suits from asos because they fall apart like a cheap suit. literally, i wouldn't, i wouldn't have bothered. i would say actually, keir's image has improved. i used to loathe the glasses, he used to wear and i think the rounded rims actually look a lot better on him. but no, i think it's, i just don't think i think this works regardless of who's in, i think the hypocrisy charge is fair because labour have called it out for five years and actually they've done similar if not worse, i just think, well, how do you clamp down on it? this this is as old as time. the fact that people will sort out jobs
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for the boys and for their friends. and we had it with, you know, stories coming out of number 10 where carrie johnson was getting her friends in round the back of dominic cummings. and it's all, to be honest, the fact that you're supposed to be running a country and this is the stuff that's going on is pathetic, really, considering the state of the country is in. >> and trevor, is that the point? you know, the viewers watching on this, this and the voters looking on might just draw from this, that just all the same they would. >> and you know, the story about carrie being bringing people into the flat and having parties and so on, they were disgraceful , and so on, they were disgraceful, frankly, and they should never have been allowed to happen. but that doesn't mean that everybody should do it once you start, because someone said a very, very bad example, and you write about the glasses , they've been about the glasses, they've been noted before we knew how they came about that he'd suddenly looked rather stylish. but i thought working clothes were boiler suits and overalls, and i think they are actually quite smart. i've never heard of asos, frankly , you're not missing out frankly, you're not missing out a promise on a serious point.
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>> is there something like donald trump has said if he gets back in power, that the civil service need to be, they should be politically aligned with the government of the time, because for a long time, one of the conservatives we've heard that the civil service, the home office in particular, were working against government policy, particularly on things like immigration. perhaps civil servants should be politically augned servants should be politically aligned to the government of the day. >> i think if you do it right, if you get the top mandarins as being genuinely impartial and independent and everything comes from the top, good management feeds its way down to the lower ranks. and if they're doing the job properly at the top, and i remember the time when for whatever reasons, you might criticise the whitehall system, it was pretty scrupulously impartial . and that has faded. impartial. and that has faded. and it began, i think, with the advent of the blair government, when alastair campbell came in and the first thing he did was to scrap the information service, which may have had people who were pro or anti one party or the other, but they
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were scrupulously determined to try and give the truth to the reporters who were asking questions, and suddenly they were all political appointments. >> do you think it's a fair point, though, matthew, to say that a lot of people will believe that the civil service in particular, are more aligned with the labour party on things like immigration or things like climate change, on things like social equality, net zero. and as a consequence, these kind of appointments now may have more of an impact because there is a feeling that the political alignment of the civil service of, of the home office especially, is more liberal, is more left wing. and so therefore, in a sense, the entire machine seems to be going against key things that matter a great deal to people at elections like controlling immigration numbers. >> i take the point and you look at statistics when people are degree educated or to a certain level educated, they maybe tend to be more liberal or going for jobs that are more liberal and whatever else i suppose if you break it down, the philosophical question is, is whether anybody
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is truly impartial. and i suppose the role of the civil service is sometimes to push back on politicians when things don't won't work or shouldn't work , or there isn't a way of work, or there isn't a way of doing such a thing. well philosophically is that then a political move from them to say, well, actually, we don't think this is the best thing you should be doing and who are they acting on behalf? are they acting on behalf? are they acting on behalf of the prime minister or on behalf of the country, on behalf of themselves and their political views, so i don't know how you get to the bottom of it, but certainly trevor made a fair point that just because one comes in and starts setting fire to the place, don't start putting petrol on it basically is this a major embarrassment for sir keir starmer, or is it so freshly into a new term of five years? >> there's still so long before a general election. it was simply fizzle out and won't amount to a row of beans . amount to a row of beans. >> well, it all depends what he now does about it. i think that the big problem for him is that a lot of things have gone not quite right in the first few weeks, and this has happened. alongside that, there is a whiff about it, which just doesn't quite square with what the
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voters, i think, thought they were going to get when they voted labour in the election. and i think this is spreading. all sorts of things have been implemented which weren't in the manifesto. in fact , nothing was manifesto. in fact, nothing was in the manifesto and a manifesto is what you govern on and you have the acquiescence of the voting public to do what you promised to do. if you haven't told them you're going to scrap the heating allowance for people with a means test. if you're going to suddenly do things with the economy that you weren't prepared to admit you were going to do on taxation and so on, then i think people start to feel altogether, this begins to give a bit of momentum to the criticism of an early government. no honeymoon. >> do you think the honeymoon is? can i ask you, matthew, do you think the honeymoon is well and truly over for sir keir starmer as we've had the riots, the perception of hard handed policing against the winter fuel allowance was dropped in as a 4 billion saving. but there's been a huge backlash to that, not
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just from pensioners groups and also the dropping in of 10 billion, billion quid for public sector pay rises and that's just the nhs and the teachers. is there a fear that the honeymoon is over? >> yeah, probably. i think they, you know they had a week or so did they, where you ride the wave over the weekend after the election. everything's great and you can promise there's a new dawn breaking and whatever else. i think, you know, they were labour were always going to find the government is a lot harder than opposition. and it's about political priorities. and i think i understand the political strategy of maybe rachel reeves and keir starmer of getting the bad stuff out of the way early. the problem is, and i said it earlier today, that people, people's parents, where i grew up, still see margaret thatcher as a milk snatcher and if you if you do something that sticks, that's your political, that's your political life. so they need to be very careful because old people do vote and they might not vote labour ordinarily. but you better believe me, those that do might well go out and vote with their feet. so i hope. i hope she u—turns. i hope she she she, you
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know, she says on budget day, i've listened, i hope, i hope we can move forward with this. and i think ultimately the pace of pubuc i think ultimately the pace of public sector workers is keeping your own voter base happy. >> and that's a fair point, isn't it, trevor? that that maggie thatcher milk, that's what i was allowed. and i used to get that milk. i used to love that milk. but is this notion of, you know, vote for rachel reeves and pensioners will freeze. is that mean spiritedness? is that an issue that you think will stick? do you expect, as matthew said, there could be some sort of u—turn or not? we should stand by our guns. >> well, i think there will be a u—turn, but the point is that none of this was made clear before the election, and i think that's they could have sold this policy, because there's a lot wrong with the idea that the gordon brown giveaway, which is really a bribe for older voters, it could have been dealt with sensibly because there is an argument for banning it. but to do that, just as you also discovered that the cost of fuel is going to soar by what, 140, is going to soar by what,140, £150 is going to soar by what, 140, £150 a year is going to soar by what,140, £150 a year at the time that you're losing your heating allowance? i think that just is going to hit an awful lot of people, really, where it hurts in their pockets.
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>> and i wonder if that's the sort of cynical ploy, because when we look at the demographics, pensioners typically are much more likely to vote for the conservative party. trevor matthew, thank you very much. now, still, to come as a fire engulfs an east london tower block, questions are raised over cladding safety once again and building regulations. who is responsible and what can be done to stop this happening once again
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you know, i've got some breaking for news you now, just coming in from the notting hill carnival and we're just learning there has been another stabbing at today's notting hill carnival that's followed on from three that's followed on from three that happened yesterday. one of those people is still in a critical condition and we're understanding there's been 41 weapons have been seized at this latest arrest . so that latest arrest. so that information is just coming in. as we get more in, we will break
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that to you. but just to repeat, there has been another stabbing at the notting hill festival that happened at 7 pm. and we're now hearing as well, two firearms have been seized by police and we understand 41 weapons, two firearms, another stabbing about 20 or so minutes ago that's coming in from the metropolitan police. and 41 weapons as we understand, that's 249 arrests. now, we believe so far to date at the notting hill carnival. we'll be covering that story later in more depth on the show. just to repeat, there has been another stabbing at the notting hill carnival. taking it now to four. and one of those is still in a critical condition yesterday. and that was a mother. 41 weapons seized tonight, including two firearms. more on that later in the show as we get more information . now as we get more information. now moving on. seven years after the grenfell tower disaster, our
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apartment blocks are still not safe, it appears because in the early hours of this morning, an apartment block in dagenham went up in flames. 225 firefighters and 40 fire engines responded with 80 people being evacuated and more than 100 people have been evacuated now and two taken to hospital . mercifully, there to hospital. mercifully, there have been no fatalities yet . have been no fatalities yet. this is more of a look and a coincidence than due to any preventative action. our work had started on this building after the cladding had been flagged as unsafe. it has also been reported that only 42% of buildings with the same cladding as grenfell have been changed or looked at since that disaster, and after the tragedy of grenfell, it begs the simple question why on earth was this allowed to happen again? and who is to blame for this , this is to blame for this, this problem, this devolution, this continuing problem? well, joining me now to discuss is i'm delighted to say, is a former
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labour mp for kensington , emma labour mp for kensington, emma dent coad. emma, welcome to the show. so you're the mp for kensington for just four days i believe when the grenfell fire broke out and many of us watching that felt that should be some kind of red line, some kind of moment where we finally address this. now, i know , emma, address this. now, i know, emma, you've campaigned tirelessly on this issue for many, many years. when you saw the situation in dagenham today, what were you feeling , feeling, >> the dagenham, the dagenham fire was absolutely terrifying. it was in the early morning and this is obviously a massive danger time because most people are asleep and it's an absolute miracle that people woke up in time, were able to alert their neighbours. and what we're hearing, obviously it will come out in the investigation. what we're hearing is that there were no fire alarms and i have heard nothing about waking watch . he nothing about waking watch. he should have been there awake and hammering on people's doors. but the fact that it happened in the
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early hours is terrifying . and early hours is terrifying. and there are 600,000 people across there are 600,000 people across the country living in unsafe buildings, and none of them are going to be sleeping tonight. it's very, very frightening. i'm still in contact with a lot of groups around the country, and our cladding scandal groups around the country living in these, these dangerous buildings that that building in freshwater road that we've been looking at today is going to be a skeleton. it will be like grenfell from what i can see, the fire is still going after 14 hours. and that's really very frightening. >> what do we do about this? >> what do we do about this? >> because i mean this apartment block specifically had been earmarked as being a danger, as being a very present and real dangen being a very present and real danger. it was on a huge list of other apartments as well, you know, and yet nobody ever seems to take responsibility. how on earth could it be the situation that all these years on an apartment block is identified? it's earmarked? we know there's a problem, and yet, seemingly
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the work is happening at a snail's pace. emma dent coad what do we do about this? and who's responsible ? who's responsible? >> well, and the government has acted at snail's pace. you know, i met in my brief time in parliament, i met five different secretaries of state and countless housing ministers. they really didn't take it seriously. and we know some of them are very much on the side of developers. actually developers are responsible for this. they've made a great deal of money. they should be made to put their hand in their pocket and pay for it. i mean, what some of the campaign groups are, as i'm in contact with them regularly, are asking for, is that the government pays up front and the government chases up the developers for to refund this money. and you know what? this is a matter of life or death. what is more important than that? we're in the middle of a housing crisis as well, hundreds of people are being moved out of unsafe homes and put in temporary accommodation that's happened around the country. and, and, you know, how are we dealing with this or is it still going to be done at
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snail's pace? we have all the evidence. we know what needs to be done. they just have to get a move on. and i really hope the new government does take this seriously and keep keep people safe because it's very, very frightening for people stuck in these buildings. and that's social tenants as well as private leaseholders and some of the leaseholders have bought under help to buy or shared ownership. they don't have a huge income and they will have to fork out the full amount if they're liable to pay the, the remediation costs, they'll have to pay the full amount, not just the quarter or whatever that they own . so it's this these are they own. so it's this these are government backed schemes, many of them, and they've they've missed the boat and they acted at a snail's pace. and people's lives are in danger if we don't if we don't tackle this really soon, more will die. and as i said, it was a miracle that people managed to get out from that building last night. absolute miracle. >> emma, you've been very, very vocal with very good reason. having witnessed this tragedy first. and your constituents, many of them were inside
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grenfell at that time , you've grenfell at that time, you've been exasperated by the snail's pace, as you call it, of parliamentarians, of housing ministers from the conservative side of government, now the labour party are in power. the local mp , margaret mullin, for local mp, margaret mullin, for dagenham and rainham, she's called for an investigation. but do we need another investigation? do we need another inquiry or do we need action? and now is it angela raynen action? and now is it angela rayner, who's the housing minister? are you hopeful that the labour party might finally push on in the way the conservative party didn't ? conservative party didn't? >> sorry, i missed your question . >> sorry, i missed your question. >> sorry, i missed your question. >> what i was saying to you, emma, is you are exasperated with the conservative ministers where he perceived didn't take enough action at the time. now the labour party are in power. the buck stops with them. angela rayneris the buck stops with them. angela rayner is the housing minister. will you be writing to her and trying to put pressure on the labour party, because can't blame the tories anymore for this. okay, i'm afraid we seem
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to have lost you, but thank you so much forjoining us there. as a former labour mp for kensington, emma dent coad, let's go back to my panel here. can i get your opinion, guys, on the stabbing at the notting hill carnival? just to repeat, if you're joining us, there has been another stabbing at the notting hill carnival. taking it now, i believe, to four in total . now, i believe, to four in total. and we just learned that there was a cache of weapons . 41 was a cache of weapons. 41 weapons today have been seized, including two firearms. so officers have now made 145 arrests as of 9:00 on this evening . matthew, an astonishing evening. matthew, an astonishing situation, very , very situation, very, very concerning. a lot of people very critical of the notting hill festival in terms of how it seems to be descending into lawlessness . yesterday was the lawlessness. yesterday was the family day. today was the day when they expected trouble. this is an enormous cache of weapons that has been seized. what's your thoughts? >> i think first of all, your your thoughts have got to be with the individuals that have been stabbed and i hope that they are okay and that we don't have tragedies, you know,
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marring this weekend. i think there's always a lot of a lot of emphasis. and this, this debate seems to come around every year with the notting hill carnival in, not in the same way that we see with events like glastonbury, reading and leeds. >> we don't get four stabbings at glastonbury, we don't get 41 weapons seized at glastonbury. is that a false equivalence? >> no, because actually, if you look at glastonbury , do was it look at glastonbury, do was it glastonbury and creamfields ? glastonbury and creamfields? creamfields has, 23 arrests per 10,000 people, but arrests for what type of crime this is? >> well, if you look at ticket touts and drug possession, this is severe criminality and firearms. you don't get firearms at glastonbury. you'd be surprised. >> i had a look earlier before there was weapons seized at glastonbury. there was fraud, fraud. arrests at glastonbury , fraud. arrests at glastonbury, there were sexual assaults. you have reading in leeds last year there was there was 110 sexual assaults with only 14 arrests. this stuff happens. and i think this is the problem. you've got a million people there, right? idiots are in all sorts of
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different crowds. i think it's wrong to tar people with similar brushes. and actually, the worst thing about this is, is the sadness that this is happening because the whole reason the notting hill carnival was set up was because of the racist murder of kelso cochrane in the 1958, and you had the 50s race riots. and west london had a particular reputation in the community, wanted to come together to try and celebrate that area of west london. >> that's not happening now, is it? >> no, and that's my point. it's sad that the whole reason it was set up to was to promote, essentially community, community cohesion. and we live in very divided times at the moment. we've seen that on our screens the last few weeks and what you do about it, i don't know, i think, you know, do we do we check people going in? do we, do we have metal detectors there, you know, is it should it be like any other sort of gig or festival or whatever else, i'm not sure, but i think it certainly isn't a false equivalence when you have the same arrest rate at glastonbury as you do at the notting hill carnival. and i think it's the
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same with royal ascot. you see, you see videos of royal ascot every year. people kicking two shades of whatever out of each other. and do they seize firearms? >> i mean, i appreciate what you're trying to say. you're trying to make the well—worn point that people pick on notting hill because it's a black festival. and so the numbers of arrests come out. no, no , no, that's the general mood no, no, that's the general mood point. trev, can i bring you in here? because two arrests, we're just learning here as well. one of the arrests was a gentleman wanted for attempted murder in hackney in july, who was spotted at the carnival and arrested following a successful stop. the firearm was seized at an entry point to the carnival and that includes a firearm being stopped there. so stop and searching. working, the spotting of individuals for previous crimes. working 41 weapons seized , four working 41 weapons seized, four stabbings, 145 arrests. i was speaking to mike neville earlier on, who's a former scotland yard
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copper who worked for many years on the notting hill carnival. and he was he was simply saying that this is an accident waiting to happen. he believes that two tier policing is happening at notting hill. the policing isn't tough enough, and it's only when they're stepping in to stop disasters like this that we're seeing the arrests. he believes that if we had robust policing, like you see at a football match at notting hill, actually the arrests would be many, many more times than this, up to a thousand. >> he said yes, and i don't think this is an accident waiting to happen. this was a predictable and predicted, and the police are on the record today of saying they're sick and tired of this having to police the crime aspect of notting hill. every year there have been suggestions about ways to deal with it. having it in, say, an area that's in one section instead of the streets of london. it's in a park. metal detectors seem to be a no brainer, and i think that these could be sprung on the on the pubuc could be sprung on the on the public as they come in and leave, so that people aren't expecting to go through a metal
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detector. and i think we might find a great deal more of these knives and weapons than 40. odd that you've mentioned already. and i think equivalence with redding and glastonbury simply don't wash. okay, there are incidents, and i've read brendan o'neill's item in the spectator only a few minutes ago saying that there have been sexual assaults, violence and other things, but this is really on a major scale when you're two stabbings in one concert or one festival and all of the other evidence of drugs and arrests and weapons , this is something and weapons, this is something thatis and weapons, this is something that is long overdue for proper police action. okay. >> and, matthew, we'll pick up that debate again later in the show. now coming up, multiple stabbings and dozens of arrests in the notting hill carnival. now
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welcome back to gbn. tonight
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with me. martin daubney. now, in a shocking statement, the metropolitan police have admitted that the notting hill carnival is seen as an opportunity to commit crime. and this comes as around 7000 officers were deployed over the weekend. now just a few minutes ago, i broke some news for you. let's just go through that now. let's just go through that now. let's go through the information. so you're fully up to date. so we have two interventions by police throughout the day, which led to two firearms being seized. the first one was a stop and search of a car in harrow, believed to be en route to the carnival, where a firearm was seized and two people were arrested. later in the afternoon , officers in the afternoon, officers carried out a search at one of the entry points to the carnival, seizing a further firearm. so that's two firearms seized, one at and one on the way to the festival . a man was way to the festival. a man was arrested for attempted murder in hackney in july was also spotted at the carnival. so previous crime a wanted man for attempted murder. he was picked up after a successful stop at the carnival.
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we've learned as well. in the last half an hour there's been another stabbing at the carnival and on top of those two firearms that have been seized so far today, 41 weapons, other than firearms have been seized. so we're assuming that means knives and other weapons on top of two firearms. that's 43 weapons seized in total. firearms. that's 43 weapons seized in total . and the arrest seized in total. and the arrest figure, the arrest tally is now 145 arrests as of 7 pm. monday. so that's like 40 minutes ago, 145 arrests, bringing the total so far over the two days to 249 arrests. and that includes 16 assaults on emergency workers , assaults on emergency workers, 40 possessions of an offensive weapon, four sexual offences and a whole raft of other charges. let's get some reaction now from my panel. trevor kavanagh. eye opening and astonishing and very, very concerning figures there. >> yes, but not a total
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surprise. i mean, this has been the sort of simmering process each year now for the last several years. and it is alarming to know and i've spoken to people who are ordinary, normal citizens who are afraid to come into london these days, not just because of the notting hill carnival, but because they fear stabbings, assaults, attacks, the sort of things that are now more or less daily occurrences. i mean , stabbings. occurrences. i mean, stabbings. it wouldn't have been notting hill if you hadn't had a stabbing, in a sense. and that's a terrible thing to have to say. london is now a knife crime city and also a gun crime city. so it's a dangerous place to live and to come and visit. and i think that's an indictment of all governments, all authorities and the police. and despite the fact that the police did very, very well on this occasion, this is a matter of just holding the situation. they are not pre—empting it. they are situation. they are not pre—empting it . they are not pre—empting it. they are not stopping the violence before it begins . begins. >> and matthew talbot, fair credit there to the police, it
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seems, in tail led arrests to spot a known and wanted perpetrator or attempted murderer from a previous crime in hackney in july at the carnival. that'd be like a super spot or an intel led arrest. so hats off to the police there. and the fact that an arrest was made on the way to the carnival in a car suggests that this individual was perhaps known and being monitored, and also the effectiveness of entry point searches into the carnival. and that that precipitated a firearm. so when the police are getting effective , it's having getting effective, it's having results. >> yeah. i mean , i've not been >> yeah. i mean, i've not been to notting hill carnival for about 15 years now, so i'm not sure how it is policed now compared to then, but i think one useful thing, credit to the police, who may well have saved a life for all we know, but i think you should. i would hope you'd have entry points at all different parts of the roads and whatever else. and that that for me is the is the most surest way of ensuring that things don't
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get into the sort of carnival that shouldn't be there. >> i don't think that's physically possible. it's a it's an open street. it's a street. it's a neighbourhood. it's not a controlled environment. as we would expect at a festival or a park. and to your earlier point, trevor, is that perhaps the inexorable, grim future of events like this, if you cannot contain the individuals there, if you cannot contain the flow inwards of wanted murderers, attempted murderers, you know, known criminals with weapons, even including firearms, is the only solution to somehow francis off and have those entry points to stop this happening in the first place. well, i do think, yes, there's got to be in an area that can be policed rather than spreading out through the streets of a suburb of london. >> and while we are praising the police after all, that is what they're supposed to be doing, and they've got the sort of facial recognition, or at least the technology necessary to do exactly what we're talking about. but i think that there need to be metal detectors
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placed all over the place on an impromptu basis so that people cannot see ahead, that they're going to be stopped or searched by mechanical devices. it needs to be the sort of thing that people are caught red handed before they get to the point of actually using those weapons . at actually using those weapons. at the moment, it seems that we are reacting to events rather than stopping them happening, and that's the point. at which we need to change our policy on these sort of events. >> and matthew talbot there, there will be inevitable cries now to stop this event happening in future years. there will be inevitable pushback from the community, from politicians. sadiq khan is very, very supportive of this event as a celebration of cultural diversity, of the heritage of the black community, particularly the windrush community. but the crime figures do seem to be particularly blighting. and when we have firearms like this, it's a different league to getting nicked for ticket touting or drugs. >> no, i agree, i think it's a
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shame because it ruins it for other people. my friends that have gone today will go and have a nice time, enjoy themselves and come home and not be any any more either. i think there is historical precedent for having the carnival elsewhere. i think when it was first launched in 58, they actually held it indoors at kings cross and even the bbc showed it. it was it was a sort of a thing that brought people together. whether that would work now, i don't know what the feeling would be, i don't know. and i, i would say, and this is to not ignore the issues.i and this is to not ignore the issues. i want to be clear that you can do two things at once. there does seem to be a particular focus on things like the notting hill carnival. i wouldn't say necessarily is because of race. i think there's a class element. i think we ignore things like festivals where sexual assaults happen, where sexual assaults happen, where violence happens, where people are arrested with knives and maybe not weapons, but certainly knives and other things, and people die and people take drugs and do these, these illegal things. but we get these illegal things. but we get
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the shame shots of the grand national of ascot of, you know, women with tags on and stuff like that. and it seems to be a class as well as a race thing at times where we focus in on this one particular thing, and i think therefore, when it has the same arrest rate as festivals or actually some festivals have far worse arrest rates, that that for me is therefore a bit of a blind spot. >> maybe that's because people don't take guns or knives into, like the last night of the proms or the opera. >> no, but that's not what cricket. but that isn't what i'm what i'm trying to equivocate equivalent to. it's things like creamfields. i've been to creamfields. i've been to creamfields and i was i was at a festival three weeks ago. people sneaking drugs, people sneaking all sorts of things. people fight. and actually it's interesting that we see festivals as a controlled environment. a lot of these festivals that i've been to have private security, it's not police. so actually i worry about who they're accountable for because actually they can be just as badly behaved as as some of the revellers in some cases.
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>> okay, matthew, thank you very much. now coming up, tourists in barcelona have been sprayed with water and worse and threatened with violent graffiti. are we speaking to a brit on holiday there
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welcome back to gb views tonight with me martin daubney now, after the anti—tourism demonstrations in barcelona this summer, graffiti including violent threats have been sighted throughout the city. phrases include why call it tourist season if we can't shoot them? and tourists, we spit in your beers. cheers. well, an unnamed tiktoker faced backlash from barcelona locals for posting a video of her posing next to the graffiti and thanking them for their very warm welcome. now this comes, of course , after tourists were course, after tourists were sprayed by local residents with water guns earlier on in the
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summer. you can only hope it was water inside those guns. now joining me all the way from spain is charlie mullins, the founder of pimlico plumbers. charlie, always an absolute delight. i understand you're in marbella now. have you been harangued by any anti—tourist protestors? and do you think they've got a point? >> no, i've not, i've not actually. but i know it's going off big time in barcelona, and you can sort of understand it because it's very overcrowded there. i think there's about 15 million tourists come there and it's a very small city compared with london, where we have 20 million, you can sort of understand where they're coming from. the spanish, you know, they're very protective in barcelona anyhow, and they don't want it overtaken by not just the brits, but all and everyone. but do i agree with it? the answer is no. of course we should be able to come there and spend their money. they need their money at the end of the day, that's where they get all their taxes from. is tourism. so, you know, i don't think they
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want to overdo it. but in the same token, i think they've got to control it better than what they than what they are. i mean, anything that's overcrowded is not going to work, is it? >> and you're seeing this as a growing movement. we've seen it in majorca, in tenerife, in ibiza, in athens, the graffiti is some of it a bit spicy, threatening to shoot people is a bit silly. i mean, you can understand their exasperation particularly. we see it in britain as well. charlie people, outsiders, a lot of londoners, a lot of wealth, buying up all those holiday homes , often off those holiday homes, often off plan. it means that locals are getting forced out of the area and in a sense, you can understand why they're a bit cheesed off. they can't afford to live there, they can't afford to live there, they can't afford to rent there. but is it really the right way to go to spray them, to tell them they're going to shoot them? >> look, no, of course not. i mean, they've got to be a bit more diplomatic about it, for sure. they need the tourists in there. but you're right, the pnces there. but you're right, the prices have gone skyrocket out here and you can't rent anything. and all of the letters have gone massive. they sort of want it in one hand, but in the in the other token, i think
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you've got many people that have obviously come from there and live there, you know, forever. and they just don't like the fact that you know, i think it's being overrun now by tourists and that's what's happened. i think 10 or 20% is going up this yeah think 10 or 20% is going up this year. last year was 10%, and i believe there's what, 90, 95 million people going to be visiting spain this year. so it's a lot of people, of course, they're not necessarily going they're not necessarily going the best way about it. but you know, i you know what what can they do ? i think i think the they do? i think i think the government needs to control it more. and just maybe let a certain amount of people come there at certain times of the yeah there at certain times of the year. but they certainly wouldn't survive without tourism , wouldn't survive without tourism, that's for sure. >> well, isn't that the point? they want to bite the hand that feeds them. they say tourists go home if the tourists go home, charlie, they'll all be broke. these these economies are often founded on a huge bedrock of seasonal tourism. and isn't that the point? these people are hypocrites. >> well, yeah, i'm sort of agreeing with you, but i'm saying i'm out here myself. i live here now, and you know,
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when you get it's packed out with tourists and with the tourists and the roads, you can't get anywhere, you can't get in the restaurants, you can't get in the in like venues, like it's just it is overcrowded is what i'm saying. and i'm just saying is i think that we need to control it better or they need to control it better out here and just, you know, allow a certain amount of, you know, tourism per month or per week allowed to come in because anything that's going to be overcrowded is obviously going to be a problem. and you know, it's going to be the same. in britain. we're overcrowded with many things. it creates many problems, and i say, you can't sort of drive anywhere at the moment. the the, the prices are going up in all the restaurants. you can't get in the restaurants. but, you know, in one hand they should be saying we're booming and maybe make the most of it. >> all right, charlie mullins, thanks for joining us >> all right, charlie mullins, thanks forjoining us and enjoy your holiday. don't let those pesky protesters get you down. let's quickly go back to the studio here. now, matthew, i understand you just got back from barcelona. i think a lot of
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these protesters are pesky socialists. did they bother you? >> i've not just got bad the last i've been 2 or 3 times. and charlie's right. i think the problem is in barcelona is the main tourist attractions are all concentrated in one area, which is the ramblers. concentrated in one area, which is the ramblers . and for those is the ramblers. and for those that have not gone, it's just like a mile, mile and a half long strip of road, all sorts of bars, restaurants and things to do. and you're walking in the road like it is rammed there. and this movement was started in the last time i went about six years ago. and you saw bits of, sort of graffiti and whatnot. i think part of it is they probably can't. gentrification, can't afford houses, 40% youth unemployment, you know. and that was before the socialists , was before the socialists, before you start again. yeah. okay. >> thank you. thank you very much, matthew and trevor kavanagh jacob rees—mogg has hove into view like a splendid vision. you're on state of the nafion vision. you're on state of the nation next. what's on your menu? >> what are we going to be talking about? >> labour, sleaze. the question of whether the chancellor of the exchequer broke the ministerial code with failure to declare a £5,000 donation before an appointment was made, then a peer who gets access to downing street, who of all things, gave the prime minister money so he
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could have a makeover, a makeover that nobody noticed. well, i don't think anybody knows it. >> have you noticed the body beautiful of sir keir starmer in recent weeks? >> well, i certainly haven't. >> well, i certainly haven't. >> apparently the gentleman here noficed >> apparently the gentleman here noticed he got slightly different spectacles. >> he's made a spectacle of himself. that's certainly true. >> and that's about it. so. >> and that's about it. so. >> but it's fascinating because they accused the tories of doing things. and as soon as they're in office, they find that the muck is hitting them because they are experts in sleaze. >> so perhaps they're all the same. jacob rees—mogg is coming up next. of course. state of the nation. thank you again to matthew talbot and trevor kavanagh. my superb panel. i'll be back tomorrow at 3 pm. martin daubney show three till six. thanks for coming. have a fantastic rest of your evening. stick around for this fellow jacob rees—mogg. first though, it's your weather. have a fantastic evening . fantastic evening. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest weather forecast for gb news from the met office .
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news from the met office. northwest southeast split developing with our weather wet and windy weather pushing in from the atlantic across the north and the west, but turning quite warm as high pressure holds on across southeastern parts of the uk. and you can see this weather front moving in through monday evening, overnight into tuesday, bringing some wet and windy weather. in fact, cloud and rain increasing already across northern ireland, western parts of scotland pushing north and eastwards, the rain turning particularly heavy as we head into the early hours. the met office warning across southwest scotland for some heavy bursts of rain, some travel disruption first thing tuesday morning . elsewhere tuesday morning. elsewhere generally dry with some clear spells, winds coming up from the south so no problems with temperatures. so a wet start across scotland on tuesday morning. outbreaks of heavy rain in places. there will be some tncky in places. there will be some tricky travelling conditions , tricky travelling conditions, some brisk winds around the coast and over the hills as well. temperatures around the mid teens. cloudy and wet across parts of northern ireland as well, but the heaviest of the rain here. starting to clear. heavy rain across cumbria through the morning. brighter further south and east wales
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generally dry, but rain soon approaching from the west and the rest of england dry and bright to start tuesday morning with some hazy sunshine through the day. this weather front only slowly pushes a little further south and eastwards, so rain continuing across southern scotland, northern england pushing into parts of wales and perhaps the west country at times two bright skies following behind across northern ireland. scotland fresh here ahead of it, though dry , warm and sunny. though dry, warm and sunny. temperatures reaching around 2526 celsius on wednesday. this weather front still across central and western parts of england and wales , though england and wales, though starting to fizzle out. warm and sunny ahead of this. further showers and rain pushing across northern ireland and scotland rather fresh here and temperatures in that sunshine in the southeast reaching around 2829 celsius. settling down by the end of the week. temperatures a little lower. see you soon! >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news
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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight , sir keir starmer nation tonight, sir keir starmer is set to announce he needs ten years to make britain better. but in just 50 days he has already found himself mired in sleaze, with the chancellor accused of breaking the ministerial code. but in a state of the nation first, i will be giving the prime minister fashion advice as a donor has paid for him to look beautiful when social services claimed to be underfunded . why did they be underfunded. why did they take time? waste time quizzing kirstie allsopp, relying her 15 year old son to go interrailing labour's occasion with
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be discussing the occasion with a top royal journalist of his generation, robert hardman . generation, robert hardman. state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. went by my. i'll also be joined by my panel historian david bolt and the author and broadcaster emma nicole turner. as always, it's a crucial part of the program. i want to hear from you, mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's time for the news of the day with tatiana sanchez . the day with tatiana sanchez. >> jacob, thank you very much and good evening. the top stories. the metropolitan police says a person has been stabbed at notting hill carnival today , at notting hill carnival today, resulting in non—life threatening injuries. the force says they stopped a vehicle believed to be en route to the event as well, and the car was carrying a firearm. they arrested two people there. another firearm was seized at
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