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gb news. >> it's 9 pm. on patrick christys tonight. >> making sure we could work more effectively with our partners in taking down those gangsin partners in taking down those gangs in relation to the vile trade that sits beneath irregular migration across europe. >> irregular migration? starmer can't even call it illegal immigration. meanwhile, around 1000 illegals have just arrived in the last two days but reset with europe a reset with the eu. >> that does not mean reversing brexit. >> okay, what's really going on with starmer and the eu? and oh, i'm recently more mushy than wimereux madhyamik nato am
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recently a banana bro. it's not just the taliban who want to control what women wear. a man in bradford beat up three women for not wearing traditional asian dress. also these are my skills that we don't pay the bills or pay the bills. get your wallets out because nhs chiefs want another £3 billion to help cut the waiting list. we might as well just set that money on fire. plus i'm pretty chilled out about this actually. >> i've had five pints of guinness and my wife just left me for another man. i can't mention her name. jacqui. i'm sorry about that. so actually, you know , the fact that four you know, the fact that four hour delay on the flight doesn't bother me. well well, ryanair's boss wants a two drink limit at airports and find out how this plane ended up in the road. >> yep. i've got all of tomorrow's front pages with the director of the popular conservatives, the wonderful mark littlewood. we've got activist and businessman adam brooks and broadcaster nina myskow. oh yes. and what happens next here? if you look closely
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at the top of your screen, there's a woman just walking along the street. all right. what happens next there? i'll tell you. get ready. britain. here we go. the taliban's values rear their ugly head in britain . next. ugly head in britain. next. >> patrick. thank you and good evening. the top stories gb news can exclusively reveal that more than 20,000 migrants have crossed the english channel illegally so far this year. that milestone was reached this morning as hundreds more made the journey in small boats from france. it's after 526 people arrived illegally in uk waters in eight dinghies yesterday . in in eight dinghies yesterday. in other news, the prime minister says a new uk germany treaty will be part of a wider reset with europe. sir keir starmer has been in germany to launch
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negotiations on a new bilateral treaty, which hopes to boost business and increase joint action on illegal migration. speaking this morning during a joint news conference with the german chancellor in berlin, he described it as a moment of opportunity to deepen links between the uk and germany . the between the uk and germany. the ministry of justice says the immediate pressure on spaces in men's prisons in england and wales has eased significantly in the last 24 hours. the latest comments come following the release of new figures yesterday, showing there are just 100 spaces left in male prisons across england and wales. it comes after the activation of early dawn, where defendants in active court cases are kept in police cells until standard prison spaces open up. the prime minister has condemned the violent scene at notting hill carnival, which left over 60 police officers injured. sir keir starmer says i will condemn anyone using violence. that's as the man has been charged with
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attempted murder over the stabbing of a mother at notting hill carnival. 20 year old shaquille tebow has appeared in court today charged with the attempted murder of 32 year old chef maxime. she's in a coma in a life threatening condition after losing 20 units of blood, and she may also have to have her leg amputated. two other men have been charged in relation to the same incident. the three men are brothers . three people have are brothers. three people have died in a road collision in a welsh coastal town, north wales police says it responded to the incident in the town of beaumaris shortly after 245 this afternoon. police attended alma street, close to beaumaris pier along with ambulance crews. officers say they are continuing to establish the full circumstances of that incident. local conservative mp in wales, virginia crosbie, says my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families and their loved ones and the fbi says the gunman who tried to kill donald trump showed a
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mixture of ideologies and that the motive is unclear. fbi officials also say the suspected shooter, thomas crooks, had mounted a sustained, detailed effort to attack a major gathering of some sort before deciding to target the republican presidential candidate at that rally in pennsylvania last month. that shooting left an audience member dead and two injured. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez. >> more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello. good evening everybody. it's patrick christys tonight now lots on. so there was political outrage actually recently over the taliban removing women's rights to talk
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outside their own home. david lammy piped up he said oh, it's such a disgrace. yeah right. okay. we clutch our pearls about the plight of iranian women, sometimes brutally beaten or killed for not wearing the veil. but we need to wake up because this stuff is happening right here in britain. mohammad hassan was at a petrol station in bradford when he saw three women he knew who weren't wearing islamic dress. they also had makeup on. hassan attacked the three women. he grabbed one of them and bounced her head off a dashboard. and then he started punching the others. he also called them prostitutes. can you guess what the sentence is in britain for violently assaulting three women because they don't uphold islamic dress codes. so a six month suspended sentence, a £500 fine and some rehabilitation classes , rehabilitation classes, sectarian violence and brutality in bradford not worth a prison sentence. there is cctv of this incident and a mugshot of hassan. we actually asked for this basic stuff from the local
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police force. now they refused to provide it. they said to us it looks like he was given a non—custodial sentence so we wouldn't issue a custody image or a video in those circumstances. well i'm sorry, but i just don't think that's good enough. i also don't think that's true. actually, once someone has been found guilty, it is quite common for the cctv of still images of their crime to be published. we went back to them. we said, look, hey, we think it's in the public interest. this monster clearly poses a real and present danger to women everywhere, and his face should be put in the public domain. nothing. so this guy launches into a kind of blasphemy attack on three women in broad daylight. he swerves jail, he pays £500 and nobody's allowed to know what he looks like or see it for themselves. he's got away with it, though. really hasn't he? but for me, the bigger problem is this. okay, what does this say about women's rights in some pockets of the muslim community? and given that we're seeing a load of people come across the channel from places like afghanistan, etc, every single day , how do we know we're not day, how do we know we're not importing more medieval
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misogyny? now? our foreign secretary and others? can virtue signal about afghanistan ? i signal about afghanistan? i think they should be looking much closer to home. let's get our thoughts of my panel. this evening. i'm joined by. we've got the director of the popular conservatives, businessman and activist adam brooks. mark, i'll start with you on this. look, are you concerned about something that people don't seem to want to talk about, which is actually a lack of women's rights amongst pockets of the muslim community? >> yeah, it does seem to be a problem. patrick. what i a road i'm keen not to go down is to worry too much about motive. i mean, you've explained very well in your presentation there what the motive appeared to be, but this is no worse nor better than beating somebody up because they're wearing, i don't know they're wearing, i don't know the wrong football shirt or have a different view of politics. i agree with you. however, the two things i'm mystified about is why the cctv footage is not available. it no longer
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prejudice a court case. it's a matter of public record , and the matter of public record, and the second is the apparent leniency of the sentence we've heard in the news bulletin just now that the news bulletin just now that the prisons are nearly full. there's a few dozen spaces left. my there's a few dozen spaces left. my view is about 100,000 people in prison in britain. there or thereabouts. my view is there should probably be fewer people in prison for longer. that's to say, the total number of man hours would be about the same. and i would have thought custody should be principally for violent offences . you should violent offences. you should expect to get locked up if you've committed violence . and you've committed violence. and on the face of it, that's what's happened here. yeah. >> i mean, i suppose, nina, for me this highlights two real things. well, more than that, but namely, you know, really active misogyny and soft justice. >> the misogyny is just shocking, you know, but then how how is it different from domestic violence in that a man will beat up his wife or his partner because she's she's gone out wearing a low cut top and that's how you know you're mine. you don't dare, you don't flaunt yourself to others. this is the same thing, except you've put
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religion into the mix. i don't think i did put religion. no, no, no, he did because of the nature of his attack. fair enough. but then this, this whole domestic violence thing, the whole misogyny thing, you know, why are men particularly of this persuasion or using religion. so terrified of women that they have to demean them ? that they have to demean them? why are the republicans in america? they've taken away women's reproductive rights. why? you know, the taliban women now can't speak in public. they can't be educated. why are men so terrified of women that they have to hide them away? yeah, well, these particular groups of men. >> why? there's a bit of a difference between the republican party and the taliban. >> i'm not saying there are degrees and degrees, but. but it's all along the same line. >> i agree with you. certainly when it comes to things like the taliban. and for me, as far as i'm concerned, you know, it's small man syndrome. and that's basically what it is. you're telling me that your your wife can't be heard outside of the home? what, in case another man,
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you know, does something to her? well, i'm sorry, you've got a massive problem there. and but, adam, look, you know, i looked at this now, and i did wonder. you look at what's going on there. if he felt brazen enough to go and do that at petrol station in broad daylight in bradford, i worry severely about what's going on in his own home. and i also worry when i look at things like honour based violence in britain, and i see that there's an increase there. you know what that maybe says about integration amongst some people? >> look, i've got two daughters, patrick, and i've never been so scared of the future of britain. you know, i'm actively trying to see how maybe i can get out. i'm petrified for the future of my kids, especially my two girls. i'm pretty confident that if i left this studio now and went and randomly attacked three women, abused them, called them prostitutes and other names that i would be arrested and i would expect to go to prison. now, the fact that that hasn't happened is worrying to me. again, i think we're seeing two tier policing, two tier justice and we've got a two tier prime minister in this country and a
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two tier media. the way things are treated . yvette cooper said are treated. yvette cooper said they was waging a war on misogyny. why isn't she speaking out today? this this case is all over the newspapers. why isn't she giving a statement to say this is not on? no. she buries her head because she doesn't want to offend. give her. >> give her a chance. i mean, it's just happened, for heaven's sakes. >> she she hasn't. >> she she hasn't. >> you know, give her. give her a chance. >> she didn't say anything about the notting hill carnival, ehhen the notting hill carnival, either. and all the arrests. where is she? >> that's the same. you know. how many are there? i'm not saying. i mean, i went to the notting hill carnival once, 20 years ago, and never again. i hate crowds, and i thought, what am i doing here? you know, and i don't even like the music. so no, i don't, nor the food. all right. >> why did you go at all the alcohol? >> because it was at a review. >> because it was at a review. >> because it was at a review. >> because it was supposed to be fun. yeah, i just i was completely claustrophobic. but anyway , it happens every year. anyway, it happens every year. you get a million people together, you get a lot of booze, you get a lot of dope
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being smoked. you've got kids carrying knives, and something's going to happen and something did. yeah. >> all right. but adam's got a point, hasn't he, on this? that it does appear. i mean, particularly what patrick said about gb news trying to get this footage and being frustrated by the west yorkshire police. that is outrageous. this should now be freely available. >> can i just say with that, this this guy, i think, pretty obviously poses a very real risk to women. okay. and i also do think that he does have a relatively common name. okay. and if i was if i had his name, of which i imagine there are literally thousands of people with that name in britain at the moment, i would wager there's quite a few in bradford, actually, and i would be thinking, well, hang on a minute, it's not me. i don't want that out there. i think actually there's just a general sense of a public duty. this quy's sense of a public duty. this guy's and i, i must say, i do have i do wonder why they've decided not to put that footage out. i think it would have been very stark . i think it would very stark. i think it would have gone viral. and i think that they might have seen a potential problem to stoke racial tensions there. >> well, i think the thing is, you know, if the events of the last, you know, 3 or 4 weeks ago
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hadnt last, you know, 3 or 4 weeks ago hadn't happened , then there hadn't happened, then there might have been a different approach. but but it's like a, it's like a, it's like a tinder box, isn't it . so they've box, isn't it. so they've managed to douse we've got to have they managed to douse it down. and you know, we've got to have an open justice system. well absolutely. but you do not you do not inflame the situation. >> can i just say for me that on that right, the actual problem there is the crimes being committed. it's not actually just people's reactions to it. and i understand that we don't want to end up seeing people doing things like burning mosques down and all of that stuff. absolutely. obviously not. but actually what people really want is for this stuff to stop happening. and that's that's. >> well, then you stop domestic, you stop domestic violence happening as well, because we've got two and three year sentences being handed out for idiots that are posting pretty bad stuff on facebook or twitter. >> they're idiots for doing that. do they deserve to go to prison for 2 or 3 years? when we've got women beaters walking the streets, we've got rolex robbers, violent rolex robbers walking the streets, we've got paedophiles that download images ,
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paedophiles that download images, hundreds of images of babies, you know, in sexual positions and things, walking the streets, going into this is a two tier justice system . justice system. >> nothing to do with that. >> nothing to do with that. >> well let's, let's, let's rein it back in on, on on to this particular issue. now, now, i do have concerns, mark, about a very taboo issue that i think people are reluctant to talk about. nina is absolutely right. there is domestic violence right across the spectrum. and it's terrible. and it needs to be stamped out. but i do have concerns about domestic violence and the control over women amongst certain aspects of the muslim community. and i don't feel like we're necessarily able to have a proper conversation about that. >> i think that i think that is right, that we have become so desperate not to offend any sector of society that we don't want to pass any form of judgement . we are worried that judgement. we are worried that any statement we make will be taken as a stereotype or an overgeneralisation sometimes, by the way, stereotypes and generalisations are helpful to understand what's going on. as a
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general rule, they shouldn't doesn't mean you should apply them to everybody and in all circumstances. and i fear that's exactly what's happening, that there is a worry. as nina said, i quite agree with you. we don't want to inflame an already difficult situation , but if you difficult situation, but if you run away from the truth, if you are not willing to put on the table exactly what happened inch byinch table exactly what happened inch by inch footage, the whole lot, the pictures, then you have a real problem a suppression of information, data . i know gb information, data. i know gb news has been running a campaign to try and break down the nature of criminality by, you know , all of criminality by, you know, all of criminality by, you know, all of this data should be on the table and open for discussion. and the minute that we lean in to saying, oh no, you know , to saying, oh no, you know, people might derive the wrong conclusions, you no longer have an open, liberal and just society. >> it also prove that religion is one of the most explosive, most negative aspects of life today. i would very happily live
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in a secular and a secular state. i would very happily live in a well, all the all the so many problems , so many, so many many problems, so many, so many problems in the church of england have been caused by religious wars. look at ireland, catholic versus protestant. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> can i can i just say i am >> can i can ijust say i am deeply concerned that when we look and we're going to talk about this a bit later about the, you know, the illegal migrant crisis and everything, but, you know, i am concerned that what we see when we see people coming across on these boats and from the parts of the world that a lot of them come from, how commonly held these views about women are. and i've got a massive issue with that. no one wants to mention it. >> we don't necessarily know that a good idea. >> don't know. you don't know a goodidea >> don't know. you don't know a good idea because they're not a boatload of progressives. >> you you don't you don't know that you. >> absolutely. because they are because you know , if they're because you know, if they're coming from afghanistan, they are fleeing the repressing the women and children we're talking about at the end of the second world war, at the end of it, look, at the end of the second world war, when europe was ravaged and the economy of almost every european country
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was completely trashed, the men left europe, for instance, they went to australia . so the went to australia. so the hauans went to australia. so the italians went to australia. the greeks went to australia, and it was the men that went first and then brought their families over again . again. >> i'm an i'm an atheist. religion is not for me. but one thing religion does do is give a lot of people a lot of comfort in their lives. and i respect any religion, but not one. religion should give you a get out of jail free card to do what you want. i agree in society especially i agree and it's very rarely that you hear that it's some extremely violent buddhist who has carried out some action. >> the whole point of the buddhist religion . but the thing buddhist religion. but the thing is, i loathe the fact i'm very unhappy when i when i see women who are in some way enslaved to a religion or in some way enslaved by men, or have been indoctrinated, and they are not free. and that upsets me more than anything. >> all of you, thank you very much. a lively start, we love to see it now coming up, yvette cooper has clamped down on free speech continues as she considers strengthening hate crime laws to help her police
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nasty words. well, fair cop founder harry miller, who was investigated by police over a poem that he put on twitter. he's hitting back. he's on soon. but next keir starmer denies that his historic treaty with germany is the first step of a brexit betrayal. >> reset with europe a reset with the eu. that does not mean reversing brexit or re—entering the single market or the customs union, but it does mean a closer relationship on a number of fronts. >> do you believe him? is he secretly dismantling brexit? former tory mp and ukip leader neil hamilton is going head to head with political advisor pablo ohana. we also do have a big story for you at 10:30 pm. about something that keir starmer has said to reporters yet again, i think it might make you angry. so stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight . welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up, i'll reveal labour's latest assault on free speech. plus, at 10:30 pm, there is a big line coming out from sir keir starmer that many people will regard as tone deaf and inflammatory. it's embargoed until 10:30 pm, but we will be bringing it to you. but first, it's keir starmer secretly destroying brexit. it's time now for a head to head . so last for a head to head. so last night , the prime minister night, the prime minister arrived in berlin to meet with germany's chancellor olaf scholz, to agree terms on a brand new treaty set to be
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signed by early next year. but starmer claims this is not about reversing brexit. >> absolutely clear that we do want a reset. i have been able to repeat that here today, a reset with europe, a reset with the eu. that does not mean reversing brexit or re—entering the single market or the customs union, but it does mean a closer relationship on a number of fronts, including the economy, including defence, including exchanges. >> well, the pm's heading to paris tomorrow to meet with emmanuel macron as he plots a wider reset across the eu. so is starmer actually plotting to reverse brexit? joining me now to debate this is political advisor pablo ohana and former tory minister neil hamilton. thank you very much both of you. great to have you on the show neil. i'll start with you. and we kind of being a bit lied to here because i'm not sure that germany and france can, can unilaterally actually agree something. doesn't it have to be the eu that agrees new arrangements with us? >> yeah, that's absolutely right. so i'm all for bilateral
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agreements with other countries. that was part of the great benefits of brexit that we were enabled to enter into a favourable trade agreements with every other country in the world, which previously we couldn't do, because those decisions had to be taken by the bureaucrats in brussels. and, you know, we're now , in theory you know, we're now, in theory anyway, a sovereign, independent nation. tories didn't actually do very much to diverge from eu law. but what we are technically in a position to enter into such deals. germany isn't. and so schultz is a dead man walking anyway, he'll be out of office next year in the german general elections. he's on a popularity level of 17% in the polls in germany . and so, you know, germany. and so, you know, whatever starmer agrees with schultz is likely to be overtaken by events anyway. but, you know, it's all part of some kind of pr stunt, really, for starmer . kind of pr stunt, really, for starmer. he's been all talk so far since the general election. and, you know, they won't be able to achieve anything of their real objectives unless they decide to go back into the
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eu. maybe not in a formal sense, but certainly in an informal sense. you know, they've got even less desire than the tories to diverge from the corpus of eu law. and that's the real problem, that we haven't actually had a full brexit as yet . yet. >> okay. all right, pablo, i'll bnng >> okay. all right, pablo, i'll bring you in. yeah. look, maybe you have a different view on this, but, i mean, the general consensus appears to be that starmer can say what he likes about signing some deal with germany and france, but. but that pretty much can't happen unless the eu signs it off. so this is a new deal with the eu, isn't it? and that is watering down brexit. if it means closer relations on a variety of different things. no >> well, i mean, i would love it to be, but starmer has ruled out the single market customs union, freedom of movement. so i don't think it's destroying brexit. whatever the benefits of that are, that we seem to be worried about losing. but i do think that it's about strengthening alliances and cooperation and frankly, rebuilding trust with one of our closest european allies. i love our country, but
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we really have embarrassed ourselves on the world stage . so ourselves on the world stage. so this isn't about reversing brexit. >> so just quickly, sorry on that. no. why? >> why have we consequences? >> why have we consequences? >> can i just ask you, pablo? seriously, why have we embarrassed ourselves? we nearly handed gibraltar back to the spanish without a shot being fired. we allow eu citizens to come freely through our airports . come freely through our airports. they're the ones who are making us queue up in a different queue. even though to be honest with you, every time i've gone abroad, there's not even been a flipping queue. just don't tell lorraine kelly that you know. in what way have we embarrassed ourselves? >> we behaved like children dunng >> we behaved like children during the brexit negotiations. it took us nearly a decade to figure it out. and the ons, the government's own figures, show us that it's costing us a million pounds every single houn million pounds every single hour. that's the average . hour. that's the average. britain is £2,000 worse off. there are nearly 2 million fewer jobs because of brexit, with regions like the north being hit hardest. and that migration, which let's not forget, was one of the key themes of the campaign, is of more people coming into the uk. and obviously that was one of the big problems that we had with with putting remainers in charge
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of brexit, i imagine. >> but neil, yeah , just to just >> but neil, yeah, just to just on this, you know, starmer is talking about oh great. we've got a closer relationship when it comes to defence with our eu partners. well brilliant. didn't the germans just send what is a basically a load of rainbow coloured helmets to the ukrainians whilst we were sending them actual hardware for if it wasn't for us, putin would have probably rolled through europe, wouldn't he? >> of course, where britain was able to take a unilateral decision right at the start of the war between ukraine and russia to support the ukraine in a very material way. that couldn't happen in the eu because they had to have agreement, in the council of ministers to do that. all the 27 members that are left in the, in the, in the eu. so you know, we have acquired a freedom which the others have lost. and germany has been a great foot dragger. of course, they've signed up to, in words, to support ukraine. but all the way along they've been dragging their feet about a, the supply of weaponry and b the use that can be made of it by the ukrainians to prosecute the war
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which they never sought, and they're the victims of. so, you know, the last people that i would want to have on my side are actually people like olaf scholz, who are really so timid as to be a liability rather than an asset. okay pablo, if this is what it is going to be, a new treaty, starmer's, you know, championing it and he's saying that it should be ready by the end of the year or early into next. >> and it is a complete reset. again, his words, a reset with our relationship with the european union, shouldn't that be put to a public vote? >> i listen as someone as someone who campaigned hard for a second referendum for a people's vote, i would welcome it. i do think, i do think that we need to be careful about opening up conversations about referendums on absolutely everything because they are very, very divisive and even at the moment where we see 60% wanting to rejoin the eu, i think we still need to be careful around that because it's a really divisive experience. we saw that in 2016 and we saw what
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happened. when you don't clarify exactly what people are voting on, for example, people voted to leave the eu. we all know that we voted for departure, but there was no conversation about there was no conversation about the destination. we didn't know what life outside the eu was going to look like. so i think we need to be a bit careful about kind of throwing everything to a referendum . everything to a referendum. >> okay, look, neil, i do put it to you that you know what? if we do end up getting a slicker, better trade arrangement with the european union and that might turn out to be better for our economy. i mean, what's the problem ? problem? >> well, the eu doesn't do negotiation. you know , they're negotiation. you know, they're interested in giving ultimatums to people. sign here or else. that was the whole story of, you know, theresa may's ridiculous attempt to have a deeper relationship with the eu. it was never going to happen. the whole point about being out of the eu is that we could take these decisions for ourselves. we don't have to enter into negotiations. they want everybody to sign up to the corpus of legislation that they've imposed on their own people. one of the great advantages of brexit is we can decide to make laws in our own interests, not in the interests
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of others. and so , you know, of others. and so, you know, starmer doesn't sign up to that. you know, he wants he wants to be part of the global elite who are technocrats who run the eu in brussels. it's the reverse of democratic. and brexit is all about democracy, restoring the power of the british people to decide their own destiny. >> well, you know, keir starmer had that famous clip, didn't he, about preferring davos to westminster and all that stuff. he obviously never, never believed in brexit. fair enough. you don't have to believe in brexit. he never really said he did . so you know he's not really did. so you know he's not really necessarily lying to us about all of that. i think many people have concerns that this is just paving the way. the other aspect of it, of course, is he's not exactly a master negotiator, is he? just ask mick lynch and all the other union barons. but but there we go. look, both of you, thank you very, very much. the political adviser pablo ohana and tory minister neil hamilton. right. who do you agree with? is the pm secretly destroying brexit? elliott says i don't think so. we voted to leave the eu not to cut off all future relationships with them. there's no reason we can't be good friends. we just don't want to be roommates anymore for
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elliott, i love your optimism. i really, really do , jess says. of really, really do, jess says. of course he is. and given his record thus far, i can't say i'm even remotely surprised. right? your verdict is in 95% of you think that the prime minister is secretly destroying brexit, 5% of you say he isn't. again, i will say at 10:30 pm. this evening. so in an hour's time, starmer has come out with an absolute corker okay. an absolute corker okay. an absolute corker okay. an absolute corker that is incredibly revealing. i dare say it will probably be leading the news agenda on gb news tomorrow. so get it first here at 10:30 pm. tonight. but coming up as p.m. tonight. but coming up as nhs chiefs demand another £3 billion to stop waiting lists rising, do we need to just stop lobbing money at this health service now? we'll debate that shortly. plus, i'll show you what happened here as two pensioner pilots had a miraculous escape. so do the people in the cars behind them, for goodness sake. but next yvette cooper. well, her clampdown on free speech continues as she considers strengthening hate crime laws to police nasty words. fair cop founder harry miller, who himself was by over a poem that he put
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next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we've got more madness to serve. up to you now, i'm sorry to say, but yvette cooperis i'm sorry to say, but yvette cooper is considering strengthening hate crime laws. she says to tackle anti—semitic and islamophobic abuse, which i think we all agree we do need to clamp down on. however, there are massive fears about the potential effect on free speech, i.e. it won't really be used for
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anti—semitism and islamophobia. the home secretary is understood to be considering a new zero tolerance approach, which would see police officers encouraged to record more non—criminal hate incidents . the move would incidents. the move would reverse the tories changes to the law last year after they issued new guidance ordering forces to stop recording incidents just because someone was offended. and that is the point that i am making right now with harry miller, a former police officer who was investigated by police over a poem that he posted on twitter. and harry, look, they can they can dress it up as you know, clamping down on anti—semitism and islamophobia, which may i politely suggest, we already have laws to combat. what do you see this being used for ? see this being used for? >> i see this being used by the government and by the starmer police for clamping down and criminalising anybody who dares voice an opinion about which they do not approve. it's as simple as that. let's remind your viewers what i was investigated for. i pointed out
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that a trans person's trans woman's breasts are made of silicone, and their vagina goes nowhere. for that. i was in fact criminalised via the so—called non—crime hate incident. i also happen to say that sheffield women know the difference between lads and lasses, and this prompted a police investigation, which they said the police said that if i was allowed to carry on making statements like this, it would lead to get this genocide. they said it would lead to genocide and this is what yvette cooper is wishing to bring back. anybody that says that islam is more dangerous than tommy robinson is going to get criminalised by this government. it's that straightforward. i'll give you another example. if you happen to say down at the pub, you know what, i think the mighty wah was a racist. it barks at our amazon driver. he's a muslim. then anybody who hears that conversation has the ability to report you and the
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police will then record you as a non—crime criminal. not only that, they will probably recategorize your chihuahua as an xl bully and put that down as well . that's how crazy this well. that's how crazy this government is. it is . it gives government is. it is. it gives the police the opportunity to make malcontents of anybody with whom they disagree. and that is a direct threat against free speech. >> all right. now, look, hey, i'll be the first to say that some things, you know, are offensive, right? and i would put things that cause offence in the same bracket as i would put things that are impolite. all right, but we shouldn't be arresting people for being impolite. as much as i would like to. when someone pushes in front of me in a queue that i'm in. all right. but no, we can't live like that, all right? we cannot live like that. we already do have laws. so for racism, we've got laws for hate, for genuine hate crime, for physical attacks, all of that. we do have laws. okay. and you know, fine. maybe some of those laws should be enforced a bit more if people think there's a bit too much genuine racism knocking about out there. but,
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you know, given the times that we're in and given the fact that now ofcom apparently wants emergency powers to be able to clamp down on quotes on quotes, misinformation online, i mean , misinformation online, i mean, look, we've seen a few examples recently over the last few years of things that were deemed to be misinformation at the time, turning out to be true. not everything, but things turning out to be true, and people being castigated for that . is this a castigated for that. is this a step towards authoritarianism? do you think ? do you think? >> yeah, absolutely. it's a step towards authoritarianism. >> that's precisely what it is . >> that's precisely what it is. the government cannot stand to have people disagreeing with its pet policies. so what it does rather than reaching out and debating us and winning that debate, it takes the easy option, which is to criminalise us. that's what this is all about. now let's not forget that keir starmer, at his heart of hearts , is a prosecutor. now hearts, is a prosecutor. now what a prosecutor tends to do is to look at those with whom he disagrees. and he he instantly makes a judgement about their
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actions. their actions are wrong. he makes a judgement about their state of mind and says it's evil and he destroys any mitigation on their behalf. thatis any mitigation on their behalf. that is the role of a prosecutor . that is the role of a prosecutor. and unfortunately, keir starmer has brought his prosecutorial instincts to the grand office of prime minister, and he and yvette cooper are encouraging police forces, chief constables to do precisely the same thing. judge those people who are saying the wrong thing and treat them as criminals well, saying the wrong thing and treat them as criminals well , this is them as criminals well, this is incredibly serious, you know, andifs incredibly serious, you know, and it's interesting because because north of the border in scotland, humza yousaf, who was leader of the snp at the time, wanted to criminalise what you could and couldn't say in your own home. >> right. so you know, conceivably your grandma comes round for christmas dinner, you know, she's maybe she might have some views. you know, and she says them over the kitchen table and there's a 13 year old there who's had a very different upbringing from a very different time. he finds that offensive and the police knock on the door as a result of it. i think most people would agree that that is insane really, but there is a
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trajectory here for this stuff now. keir starmer and yvette cooper will no doubt say, harry and i put this to you. they will say, look, you know, if you don't say anything hateful then you've got nothing to fear. so is there any truth to that? do you think that's absolutely we, that if we want to criminalise hate, then let's do it via the ballot box. >> let's do it in parliament. unfortunately, the government definition of hate is dislike. ill feeling, and simply disagreeing with somebody. that is the police definition . is the police definition. >> can i ask you, harry, on this? sorry to sorry to sorry to cut you off, but actually just because i want to get this, this point in from you before we before we go actually i worry if they are, i wonder sorry if they are actually doing their best to deliberately create a climate of fear. we saw that with some of the prosecutions that took place in the disturbances that took place after the southport incident. et cetera. and the very public way in which they were done. right and i wonder if this is another element of that which is actually they hope that no one will do anything that
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needs to, that they need to be arrested for, as it were, because they're going to try and scare the living daylights out of people and now people, you know, seriously questioning, oh gosh, if i tweet that, am i going to get arrested? which is nuts, isn't it? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> you would be absolutely astonished at the number of phone calls meetings that i've had with people who are terrified about what they can and cannot say on on x . this is and cannot say on on x. this is all about generating a chilling effect so that the british pubuc effect so that the british public behave in a way that keir starmer and yvette cooper approve of. it has got nothing to do with whether you break or don't break the law . this is all don't break the law. this is all about social conditioning, social engineering and maintaining absolute compliance with a set of mores and rules which have erupted out of the brazier of keir starmer and yvette cooper. this is all about creating a chilling effect and creating a chilling effect and creating absolute obedience that way. >> okay, look, harry, thank you very much for your time this evening. it's always a pleasure.
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it's harry miller there who's a former police officer and was investigated, as i said, as well, there for a twitter poem , well, there for a twitter poem, which he did care to recite for us. so there you go. coming up, the prime minister is now refusing to call people who crossed the channel illegal immigrants, making sure we could work more effectively with our partners in taking down those gangsin partners in taking down those gangs in relation to the vile trade that sits beneath irregular migration across europe . irregular migration. europe. irregular migration. will the prime minister's eu deals have any effect on the migrant crisis ? well, they migrant crisis? well, they better do because we had quite a lot of irregular migrants crossing recently, haven't we? but next, nhs chiefs are demanding another £3 billion for their sacred cash cow. but isn't it time we just stop lobbing money at our sickly health service? officer for the for economic affairs? reem ibrahim is live
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight . welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, nhs chiefs have
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demanded another £3 billion so that they can hit waiting list targets. all right. apparently senior health leaders were left concerned by keir starmer's claims that the conservatives legacy was forcing him to do unpopular decisions . unpopular decisions. >> won't shy away from making unpopular decisions now, if it's the right thing for the country in the long term. our number one mission is to grow the economy to make sure that we are creating the money in the first place. that remains the number one mission. nothing knocks that mission. that's why it's really important that we have an nhs capable of getting through the backlog. >> so senior health leaders warned the prime minister that meeting waiting times targets would be almost impossible without immediate cash. to avoid the winter crisis. we've heard that before. we've heard it every winter, haven't we? i'm joined now by the director of communications at the institute of economic affairs , reem of economic affairs, reem ibrahim reem, thank you very much. so what will the nhs do with this £3 billion? does it need it? >> that is the key question, patrick. i mean, effectively the
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national health service and the department for health and social care altogether cost taxpayers just below £200 billion a year. so that is a huge amount of money. this £3 billion would be a drop in the bucket. the key question is where does all of this money actually go? how much of that is actually being received at the front line? now, if you talk to any doctor or nurse, any kind of clinician, they will tell you they feel as though the nhs is underfunded. when we're looking at this from a wider perspective, that is most certainly not the case. we are spending huge amounts of money on the nhs and it is effectively in my opinion, a bureaucratic black hole in which there are all of these middle managers and you don't see that kind of efficiency that you would see in other kind of healthcare systems. so i actually think that the nhs needs a huge overhaul. it needs to be sort of looking at these kind of european models in which social insurance models are more effective and actually allowing patients that kind of choice. so is our nhs underfunded? >> no. >> no. >> absolutely not. the nhs is not underfunded. we spend just
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below £200 billion a year. the point is that money isn't being received by other countries, because people in other countries often say to me, you know, oh, you know, you, you just don't put enough money into your nhs. >> so, i mean, do they put more in? >> so this is the point. so a lot of people will often claim that actually the solution to our broken public services is spending more taxpayer money. and again, you already know know better than i do that actually the amount of money that we're being taxed is enormous. i mean, the fact that we are spending huge amounts of money on the national health service and it's effectively a bureaucratic black hole, it is we are spending that money effectively putting it down the toilet. and at the same time refusing to reform it. now people have these conversations and i think that we need to have and i think that we need to have an honest conversation as a nafion an honest conversation as a nation and talk about the fact of the matter that the nhs just is not working, and we need to have those conversations in order to see meaningful reform. i want to see keir starmer. i want to see wes streeting actually reign it in and actually reign it in and actually see those kind of reforms being implemented. but unfortunately, i think the kind of political problems do tend to
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ensue. >> i mean, we actually hearing any kind of reason why this £3 billion is the number that they need to cut waiting lists. i mean, you know, we've already got what, however many million people it is, 8 million people or something on an nhs waiting list, you know, where have they got this arbitrary. give us another three bill. i mean, it's almost like we're being held hostage by a group of medics, isn't it? >> it does feel that way. and of course, we know that there are huge numbers of those particular individuals that are in unions that then end up negotiating with the government, i.e. tax payers for higher and higher pay- payers for higher and higher pay. and yet they don't turn up to work in the first place. this is the point. the national health service was established in the 1940s to provide universal healthcare that is free at the point of use, but when we are spending huge amounts of money on the national health service and being taxed to the brim, and it does not, certainly does not feel as though it is free at the point of use. and when it is almost impossible to get a gp appointment when we've got almost 8 million people on waiting lists, it is not universal for all. so the question is all of those
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principles for the national health service have entirely come under wraps . what is the come under wraps. what is the solution? i think we need some proper, meaningful reform to entirely overhaul the national. what i want to say about the nhs accountability. >> i want to see accountability. there is this layer and layer and layer of bureaucracy and what happens there. people die or people get bad treatment, or people actually find themselves getting worse before they get better. things get missed. and something that very easily could have been treated in the initial stages actually ends up being you know, frankly, a death sentence. >> we have some of the highest preventable deaths in all of europe. so i think i think even just on all healthcare parameters. so thinking about that, i actually maybe wouldn't mind if the nhs costed us that much if we actually had really great healthcare outcomes. that's just not the case. we have some of the highest preventable deaths in europe. there are certain types of cancers that if they were to be treated and found in european countries like the netherlands, there are many, many people that would have not lost their lives. so even these conversations about the national health service that tend to get very emotional, people accuse those that are campaigning against it,
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those that are arguing for reform, of attempting to privatise it for the sake of it. actually, we're talking about people's lives here. we're talking about the fact that many people in this country are not receiving the healthcare that they deserve. >> it should be the that should be the framing of a discussion when it comes about changing the nhs and reforming the nhs, it should be. let's have a conversation about how we save more lives, not about, well, you know, let's reform. i want to privatise this. i want to do that. you know, it should be it should be a life savers, really, shouldn't it? i've got to ask you, i suppose the £3 billion question is, is keir starmer going to find £3 billion to give to the nhs to stave off the winter crisis, which we're going to get anyway? >> no. and this is the point, right. if we were to get fill this, this sort of imaginary black hole that seems to have entirely popped up again, i don't know where these health leaders have actually found this exact £3 billion figure. it seems to have been plucked entirely out of thin air. and even just thinking about that from a wider perspective, we already have our debt to gdp ratio almost at about 100%, so we are already spending huge amounts of money. the state, as
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it's currently in its current form, is unsustainable . we have form, is unsustainable. we have to cut back somewhere we're obviously probably going to be seeing tax rises in the october budget. as per starmer's speech yesterday. but even thinking about where this £3 billion could possibly come from, i've already argued that we don't need it. and actually we need to see institutional reform. but save starmer has to give in to these demands because we know he is as weak as that, that actually the money would probably be coming from further tax rises. >> i do wonder when the when the breaking point when it comes to the public perception of the nhs is going to be right. every single person i speak to and this is, you know, a very unfortunate fact, but it is a fact. every single person i speak to has got at least one family member that has been, you know, saved brilliantly by the nhs and one family member who was, you know, borderline killed or something terrible happened to them. that's certainly in my family, certainly in most people's families. all right. what is the tipping point going to be for people when they see the amount of money we're putting in and the, the, the, the lack of results that we're seeing for that. but look, we
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will no doubt talk to you about this again very, very soon. thank you very much. director of communications at the iea. that reem ibrahim coming up. it's a big one. this tory mp and erg chief, mark francois , is live in chief, mark francois, is live in the studio to hit back at starmer's attempts to reset eu relations and put brexit under threat . next, though, around threat. next, though, around 1000 illegals. oh sorry, sorry sir keir . 1000 illegals. oh sorry, sorry sir keir. irregulars now irregular irregulars. anyway they've arrived or whatever they are in just two days and he can't stop banging on about the so—called far right. all right, i demand a plan and some common sense from our prime minister. can i also just say at 10:30 pm, starmer has dropped an p.m, starmer has dropped an absolute corker of a line that i know is going to enrage quite a few of you. i'll bring you that on the dot at 10:30 pm. stay tuned for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather
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update brought to you from the met office. thursday will be a breezy and showery day for northwestern areas. elsewhere. though dry and feeling fairly warm in the sun. but it is going to be a fresher day tomorrow compared to today as as this weather front is expected to clear away to the south and east throughout tonight , taking with throughout tonight, taking with it some rain which will affect northeastern areas of england, some eastern areas of scotland. through this evening. still a few showers across the north and west, but for many of us it will turn much drier and clearer overnight tonight. so that does mean it's going to be a fresher night. temperatures will fall away into single figures. rural towns and cities just about in double digits. so fresher but bright start to the day for many areas. however across the north and west there will still be some quite frequent and potentially quite heavy showers across many southern areas, we could see a few patches of mist and fog developing , particularly and fog developing, particularly across western counties of england. a few showers pushing into parts of wales potentially as well as northwestern england and northern ireland. but i think the most frequent and heaviest showers will affect the western isles, the highlands
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through thursday morning. the likely linger through much of the day. a drier start across eastern areas of scotland. but those showers will progress eastwards to affect these areas later on on thursday, as well as some eastern areas of northern england too. but elsewhere, as i said, it should be a relatively dry and fine day and it will feel fairly warm in the sunshine. as i said, it is a fresher day tomorrow compared to today. we'll lose that humid feel so temperatures just about 23 or 24 degrees at best in the south and east, widely in the high teens or low 20s. however, that's about average for the time of year. now, friday, we've got high pressure centred across the uk, so more widely settled day, plenty of sunshine through the day, away from the very far north of scotland, and it will feel fairly warm in the sunshine, but it could be another fairly fresh start. and that theme continues into the weekend. however, as we head towards sunday, a risk of showers does develop across the south and east. see you again later. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight. >> making sure we could work more effectively with our partners in taking down those gangsin partners in taking down those gangs in relation to the vile trade that sits beneath irregular migration across europe . europe. >> its irregular migration, now is it? starmer can't even call it illegal. around 1000 illegals have arrived in just two days, plus reset with europe, a reset with the eu that does not mean reversing brexit. what's really going on with starmer and the eu? tory mp and arch brexiteer mark francois is on. oh, and yes, at 10:30 pm. i reveal keir
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starmer's latest comments on the far right. you will not believe what he has to say. >> plus, i'm pretty chilled out about this actually. i've had five pints of guinness and my wife just left me for another man. i can't mention her name. jacqui. i'm sorry about that. so actually, you know , the fact actually, you know, the fact that four hour delay on a flight doesn't bother me. >> well, the boss of ryanair wants a two drink limit at airports. and talking of planes, find out how this plane ended up in the road . i've got all of the in the road. i've got all of the front pages with broadcaster nina meshkov, director of the popular conservatives mark littlewood and businessman and activist adam brookes. oh, yes. okay. and i want you to look closely here at the top of your screen, okay. and i'm going to ask you if you can guess what happens next at the top of your screen. keep your eye out on that. i'll tell you all. get ready. britain. here we go . ready. britain. here we go. keir starmer doesn't even want
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to call it illegal immigration. next . next. >> patrick. thank you. the top stories. gb news can reveal that more than 20,000 migrants have crossed the english channel illegally so far this year. the milestone was reached this morning as hundreds more made the journey in small boats from france. it's after 526 people arrived illegally in uk waters in eight dinghies yesterday . the in eight dinghies yesterday. the prime minister says a new uk germany treaty will be part of a wider reset with europe. sir keir starmer has been in germany to launch negotiations on a new bilateral treaty, which hopes to boost business and increase joint action on illegal migration. speaking during a joint news conference with the german chancellor in berlin this morning, he described it as a moment of opportunity to deepen links between the uk and germany . links between the uk and germany. bbc director—general tim davies
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says the broadcaster has been let down by several controversies, he says, which have rocked the corporation in recent months. mr davies said the bbc had been put in the spotlight following scandals, including allegations around the treatment of contestants on strictly come dancing and the sacking of presenter jermaine jenas after he admitted sending inappropriate messages to two female colleagues . meanwhile, female colleagues. meanwhile, the bbc also asked disgraced presenter huw edwards to return the estimated £200,000 salary he was paid between his arrest and pleading guilty to making indecent images of children, for which he awaits sentence . in an which he awaits sentence. in an email to bbc staff, mr davies reportedly said he wanted to acknowledge this has been a demanding period for the broadcaster and everyone who works within it . sir broadcaster and everyone who works within it. sir keir starmer has condemned the violence seen at notting hill carnival, which left over 60 police officers injured. the prime minister says i will condemn anyone using violence.
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that's as a man has been charged with attempted murder over the stabbing of a 32 year old mother at notting hill carnival . 20 at notting hill carnival. 20 year old shaquille thibou has appeared in court charged with the attempted murder of cher. maximum. she's in a coma in a life threatening condition and may have to have her leg amputated. two other men have been charged in relation to that same incident. the three men are brothers . now the billionaire brothers. now the billionaire founder of encrypted messaging app founder of encrypted messaging app telegram has been charged with allegedly allowing criminal activity on the app. french judges have barred pavel durov from leaving france pending further investigation, but he's avoided jail time with a ,5 million bail. durov was arrested in france on saturday after his private jet landed at le bourget airport, just outside paris. the russian born entrepreneur was questioned about allegations his platform was being used to exchange child sexual abuse material and by crime gangs for
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drug trafficking, fraud and money laundering. telegram has responded by insisting it abides by eu laws and its moderation is within industry standards and constantly improving. they say , constantly improving. they say, and the fbi says the gunman who tried to kill donald trump showed a mixture of ideologies and that the motive is unclear. fbi officials also say the suspected shooter , thomas suspected shooter, thomas crooks, has mounted, had mounted a sustained , detailed effort to a sustained, detailed effort to attack a major gathering of some sort before deciding to target the republican presidential candidate at that rally in pennsylvania last month. the shooting left an audience member dead and two injured. those are the latest stories. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. now, as patrick, for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> sir keir starmer doesn't even want to call it illegal immigration. how can we trust this to man stop the boats if he won't even name the problem? here he is today in germany, alongside another deeply unpopular leader, olaf scholz. finally taking a question on britain's border crisis. >> and i said before the election that i would invest political capital in making sure we could work more effectively with our partners in taking down those gangs. and that's why i'm very pleased today that we have had a substantive discussion, agreed to a joint action plan. thatis agreed to a joint action plan. that is the way to take effective action in relation to the vile trade that sits beneath irregular migration across europe. >> do you clock that? it's irregular migration now? well, we've actually had a large number of irregulars arrive in the last two days, haven't we?
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almost 1000 people will have come across the channel in that time alone, in the last two days. that brings the total for the year to more than 20,000. not only is there still no head of border command behind the scenes , we have the chuckle scenes, we have the chuckle brothers running the show. simon ridley leading a civil service migration and borders disaster , migration and borders disaster, and permanent secretary to the home office matthew rycroft. should we remind ourselves of these two? okay. they decided that it was great for the taxpayer to fork out for 5000 empty hotel beds just in case illegal immigrants needed them. >> secondly, we're making sure we've got a buffer of as close to 5000 beds as we can have so that we've always got, so that we've always got an outflow. so we're carrying a large number of empty beds in order to let us move people out. >> brilliant. unbelievably, matthew rycroft was given a £30,000 bonus on top of his £190,000 a year salary, despite presiding over the biggest
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calamity in modern british history. if he had any sense of self—worth whatsoever, he would hand that money back. it's your money that at the end of the day, the prime minister says a deal with germany might take about six months. okay, well, he can't even bring himself to call people illegal immigrants anymore. he refused to take gb news question about it. in the downing street rose garden yesterday, and all he can do is talk about the far right. more on that later. by the way, it's about 1030. at the same time, though, he's telling us stuff like this. >> there is a budget coming in october and it's going to be painful. those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heavier burden. >> well, this has led to memes onune >> well, this has led to memes online like this. there we are pensioners making sure they won't freeze this winter. it's a load of old ladies in a boat coming across the channel that hilariously suggests, doesn't it, that pensioners are better off coming across to the uk in a small boat so that they are
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actually cared for this winter? after starmer stops their winter fuel payments? look, hey, when you look at your tax bill every month or every year, i think you have the right to ask, what the heck am i paying for? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. writer and broadcaster nina myskow. we've also got director of the popular conservatives, mark littlewood, and we have businessman and activist adam brooks. mark, i will start with you on this. now this this , this phrasing now this this, this phrasing now gone from illegal to irregular, really not all the time. but he's rolling the wicket for it. in fact, cooper's done the same thing. do you think that's important in terms of trying to get into the public psyche about who these people are? >> yes it is. look he's misusing language here. there are there are three different things that we should look at. one is asylum seekers. these are people who claim to be fleeing for their lives and can't be sent home for risk of torture or murder or whatever. that's one category. another category are migrants who go through the normal
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process and say, you know, i want to come here and work as a hedge fund manager or as a brain surgeon or whatever it might be, a footballer. fill in the forms. that's legal migration. and then there is a vast swathe of people who are not seeking asylum , not who are not seeking asylum, not going through the normal route. and that is illegal migration. it is also irregular, i suppose , it is also irregular, i suppose, but he's suggesting that that means it's unusual. it's not unusual. it's common and illegal. and frankly, with him. look, i've got no problem with the prime minister meeting the german chancellor. great. they're an important ally. but i have not understood anything that has come out of this discussion. that's actually going to improve matters. i mean, i mean, we just heard a whole load of word salad from keir starmer, basically, what is the specific proposal that comes out of anglo—german relations thatis out of anglo—german relations that is going to make it easier tomorrow to tackle this problem than yesterday? >> nina, they are illegal migrants , aren't they? migrants, aren't they? >> well, they are illegal migrants, but are they are they regular migrants? no. so they are irregular migrants. it's
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just pure semantics. and another word we haven't heard for a long time is refugees, because there are people who are you? asylum seekers. yeah. asylum seekers . seekers. yeah. asylum seekers. they are refugees. and nobody can deny their right to find a place of shelter. >> loads of people can deny their right to find a place to shelter. because loads of people don't think they're telling the truth. well, i don't think a lot of them are telling the truth. >> you can. you can say that. but, but, but, but then, by definition, there must be people who are telling the truth. >> there are people who are fleeing dreadful situations. >> do you agree with me, nina? there are three. there are those who are seeking asylum status. there are those who come here through the normal process legally . and then there's legally. and then there's a batch of people who aren't seeking asylum but still come to these shores. >> why are we discussing words and semantics? why do we no longer call them refugees? >> well, i'm happy to call them refugees. yes, they are the same as asylum seekers because we are more attuned to look more kindly on a refugee. >> yeah, but that's exactly my point, nina . point, nina. >> just understanding their plight and where they genuine
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refugees, though. >> and i'm sorry, but a load of people . do you know that? well, people. do you know that? well, because, nina, we don't know who half of them are. we've got loads of them. get rejected at the first or second or third time, and then they end up getting allowed home. >> but there are they don't get deported. >> over 50% of them, over 50% of them are giving refuge. >> alright, adam, you know when you look at your tax bill, right? and you see this now and you think you know how much we're paying every single day for this, our taxes are all going up. the winter fuel payments going for some elderly people, etcetera. you know, you've got prime minister there who's really doing his best to now change the optics on this and call it irregular and not illegal. a softening of the stance. there do you think the social contract has been broken here when it comes to. >> of course it is. these mps are not listening to normal, everyday people. people like me, people that are struggling. we've got pensioners that could starve and freeze to death this winter because they can't afford to heat their homes or buy food. you've got people that are simply economic migrants. let's not lie and say these are all
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refugees and asylum seekers. >> they're not refugees. some are economic migrants. >> these men, 20 to 30 year old men coming over on dinghies. first thing, they get put in a hotel, a heated room, they get fed three times a day. they get local travel. if their teeth are dodgy, they get a dentist. they get to see a doctor. these poor pensioners now, right? this labour government is a disgrace . labour government is a disgrace. >> the tories were a disgrace as well under the tories. we've got to be very honest about it. it's true. >> but in only six weeks into the labour government, the number of the 20,000 that have arrived this year, the bulk of them are came under. >> let's just nothing to do with keir starmer, remember? >> let's just remember because let's remember. >> and the viewers need, need to know this. we have got warring factions in calais, from eritrea, from sudan. right. they are stabbing each other to death in these calais camps. they're on the next boat over here. we don't know their history. are you saying. hold on. yes this is
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the hold on, nina. >> i'm talking saying they're all stabbing each other. they're not nina. how many? how many deaths have there been? how many deaths have there been? how many deaths have there been? how many deaths have there been in the calais camps recently? >> give me. >> give me. >> i'm going to i'm going to put this back to you. we do not know. no, i'm not going to give you figures because you don't have them. >> you're just saying, nina, we have got exaggerating. >> no, they are . >> no, they are. >> no, they are. >> can i can i speak, please? >> can i can i speak, please? >> the facts speak. the facts are bad. >> we have got people that throw their id that lie from what country they are coming for. because they described this country as el dorado. if you go and interview, we've had people from here interview them in the calais camps. they call this el dorado because they think they're going to get a free house. they think they're going to get, free everything. but one thing. i've got one message to say to keir starmer and this government , normal, everyday government, normal, everyday people have had enough. we're not the far right. you're right. >> and stop labelling and going to what nina said. it is fairto to what nina said. it is fair to say that the government has been in office for under two months. you wouldn't necessarily expect any results yet, but i think
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over those two months we can therefore only judge them on what they say. we wouldn't expect any spectacular results in under two months, but what they've said leaves me rather cold. it doesn't seem to me they're going to get to grips with this problem. one thing that they promised to do was to appoint a new head of border force. that still hasn't taken place. how long is that going to be? another month or so. what is the language that they are communicating about this? rather disappointing. i'll give them another few months to see if anything happens. but early doors it does not look promising. patrick. >> usually a prime minister or a president is given 100 days before they're proper. >> well, he's more than halfway through . through. >> and look what he's done in those 50 days. >> no, no, he is not. he's not more than halfway through his 100 days. >> he is he's not 67 to 42, aren't they. >> he's been in power for. >> he's been in power for. >> no, no. he's been more than 50 days now. he's more than halfway through all right. >> halfway through i give you that. but the thing is you've got to allow them to, to, to get to grips with it. this is this has been 14 years of disaster, you know, and let's face it,
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brexit has had a lot to do with immigration. no okay okay okay. wait. >> under the dublin agreement, we returned hardly anyone. >> so please, let's not lie about the dublin agreement. >> i'm not i'm not talking about did i mention the dublin agreement? no, but that's what many people do. well stop preaching. >> we'll come back in 50 days and see if they've made any more progress than they did in the first 50. >> i'm about to say that is the argument that many people put with brexit. >> fine, but don't do it. >> fine, but don't do it. >> don't make your point. >> don't make your point. >> may i make my point? of course. how many people arrived in this country on boats in 2019? >> this is such a stupid argument. >> no people. >> no people. >> the answer from the remains. we've now got a global give me. we've now got a global give me. we've got a global immigration problem. >> we didn't have that in 2019. give me. >> why does it matter? why does it matter ? it matter? >> give me the answer. >> give me the answer. >> why? >> why? >> if germany got record amount of immigrants, why have germany got record amount of chim chim cher—ee? >> the answer? >> the answer? >> it's nothing to do with brexit. >> the answer i'll give you the give me the answer.
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>> so why have eu countries got the same problem? how is that brexit? don't be so ridiculous. >> just answer me a simple a number of thousands that you're trying to make, which is that brexit is to blame for the charles rae. no no no no. i'm saying brexit is a factor. why? because in 2019, the number of people who arrived here in boats was 1880. >> there wasn't a global, it wasn't that there wasn't global problems, but a global. >> why did it become easy? why didn't it become easier to get in after brexit? what's the rationale there? >> because our relationship with europe so deteriorated that there was not the cooperation. why do you think keir starmer is in germany talking to olaf? why do you think he's in macron? pr exercise it's not a pr axis he is trying to solve the problem. >> i'll tell you what, we'll put a pin in this. >> you have just shown yourself no big agreement so far. >> okay. all right. okay. well look, when we when we do come back, actually, at 1030, there'll be a lot more to go at because it ties in quite a lot with what we were just talking about there. and certainly in terms of keir starmer's rhetoric towards the quote unquote, far right, he's dropped an absolute
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corker. we will bring that to you at 10:30. but coming up, yeah , we'll have the first of yeah, we'll have the first of tomorrow's front pages as well. and i will show you what happens next here. yeah. just keep your eyes towards the top of your screen there. okay. well there we go. it looks like we've just shown you fantastic work in the gallery. and next, after keir starmer's historic new deal with germany amid plans for a wider eu reset. should brexiteers be worried? tory mp and arch—brexiteer mark francois is live and he's next.
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all right. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now we do have some big news coming your way at 1030. keir starmer has piped up again about something the far right. you're not going to want to miss that. but now keir starmer has described a new uk germany treaty as a once in a generation chance to deliver for working people in britain. in a press conference alongside the also deeply unpopular olaf scholz the prime minister denied that he was the first step towards reversing a brexit reset with europe, a reset with the eu. >> that does not mean reversing brexit or re—entering the single market or the customs union, but it does mean a closer relationship on a number of fronts. but we do not have plans for the youth mobility scheme, but we do have plans for a closer relationship between us and the eu as part of that, white said. >> right. it's very vague, isn't it? it's very vague. should
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brexiteers be worried? should britain be worried? i'm joined now by conservative mp, the chair of the european research group, leader of the five families. it's mark francois. mark, thank you very much. okay, so, should we be a bit worried here? by this, i mean, what's his what's his big grand plan here is conceivably, on the face of it, he should have a nice chat with olaf, and he'll have a nice chat with emmanuel tomorrow. >> yes. we should be worried. look, this is an opening gambit, and the long term aim is to take us back into the european union . us back into the european union. >> why do i say that? i sat in parliament night after night, week after week, for more than two years, and saw keir starmer call endlessly for a second referendum because he simply couldn't accept the verdict of the first. how dare the british people have the temerity to vote to govern themselves, right? starmer remains a remainer. that's where his heart lies. but he can't come out and say that
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because then labour would lose all of those voters . they've all of those voters. they've just won back in the so—called red wall, right? so this is an opening gambit and this is how it's going to go. i've got the government press release here. it talks about market access. well, that's not a million miles away from rejoining the single market. so eventually they try and take us back into the single market. and that means free movement. and then they say, well, perhaps we should look at rejoining the customs union. and then they do that and then they say, well we're almost back in the thing anyway. we might as well go the full hog. all of this without a vote, because they will make absolutely certain we don't have a referendum , despite the fact he referendum, despite the fact he kept calling for one, because last time we did, the british people gave them the wrong answer. so i'm absolutely convinced, having seen the guy in action for years in parliament, that this is the opening step in a plan to take
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us back into the european union within this parliament. so by the time we get to the next one, the time we get to the next one, the next general election, it's a fait accompli. >> okay. all right. now, keir starmer will probably say, well, you know what i'll do? i'll let parliament vote on it. oh, is that not the way of doing things? i mean, that would be bad news for people like you because parliament is now he's got a massive majority and it's stacked full of remainers. so, you know, is that not the way he might go about it? >> well, we had a referendum. we had a democratic decision to leave. you'd either only could overturn that with another referendum, which they're never going to risk. because if you remember right up to the last minute, the polls said remain were going to win and then and then leave the rules. >> sorry to cut you off. is that the rule? so what? you can only overturn the result of a referendum with another referendum? well, a moral argument. >> well, if you wanted, if you wanted, if you if you're a democrat. yeah. you'd need a mandate to do it. so you either do it in another referendum or you make it an absolutely central plank of your general
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election manifesto. you know, bods election manifesto. you know, boris said in 2019, we're going to get brexit done, right. there was a very clear democratic mandate in from that election to get us out and to complete the job of leaving the european union. are you with me? so it's one or the other. they didn't. they said very little about europe during this recent general election campaign. they didn't say they were going to take away the winter fuel allowance from pensioners ehhen allowance from pensioners either, did they? so i'm absolutely convinced that what they're going to do is do this via grandmother's footsteps. one little stage at a time. and then try and get it through without a referendum and then turn around and go too late. >> i mean, i've got a sneaking suspicion they might try and do something like rename the single market and the customs union. right? and then they can he can legitimately stand up and say, we've not rejoined the single market and the customs union. i've not i've not broken any promises. i mean, we've already had irregular migration. now they're no longer illegal. >> well, if you remember, blair renamed the european constitution the lisbon treaty, right, because they promised a
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referendum on the eu constitution, and then they renamed it the lisbon treaty to get out of having a referendum. i mean, i rememberi get out of having a referendum. i mean, i remember i was the shadow europe minister at the time. i remember this very well. we debated the lisbon for treaty 14 nights in the house of commons. we couldn't change a punctuation mark that for me, that was my epiphany. that's when i thought, we've got to get out of this. we don't run our own country. so i remember that very, very well indeed. >> but what i will say, though, and i think this is a perfectly legitimate question, and, you know, a lot of people out there might, might agree with this, which is, well, you know, brexit, i would argue, hasn't been allowed to be a success. all right. but it has not been a success tremendously. and, you know, there may well be a case for doing something like closer economic ties , a bit less red economic ties, a bit less red tape.i economic ties, a bit less red tape. i just wonder how this can happen without a sign off from the european union. as a whole. how can how can starmer unilaterally agree something now, as he's claiming to be doing with germany and presumably france without the sign off from ursula von der euanne? >> well, one of the things i've learned, having done all these debates and all these treaties down the years, is you've always
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got to read the small print. so if we actually get to the point of having an anglo—german draft treaty, we'll need to go through it with a fine tooth comb. that's one of the reasons they got rid of the european scrutiny committee a few weeks ago without a vote. >> oh go on, just just highlight that because that slipped under the radar. >> well, so the european scrutiny committee was a specific committee of the house of commons, chaired by sir bill cash, whose job was to go through anything that came from the eu with a fine tooth comb. they got rid of that a few weeks ago. all right. so that committee is now gone. so if we were to have a draft treaty, we need to look at exactly what the small print says . because if you small print says. because if you look at for the instance, theresa may's withdrawal agreement , the small print in agreement, the small print in that was fundamental. agreement, the small print in that was fundamental . so we need that was fundamental. so we need to see what they come up with. but my bottom line point is,
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having seen starmer in action in the commons for over two years, when we were fighting night after night, trying to deliver brexit, this is a guy that conspired with people from all parties to try and keep us in the eu at all costs in the end, mercifully, he didn't succeed . mercifully, he didn't succeed. he's now going to have another go at doing it, but he daren't say so openly. this is the opening gambit in that campaign. >> all right, mark, thank you very, very much. that's mark francois there. make sure that you watch this space when it comes to exactly what's going on on the continent at the moment . on the continent at the moment. and no doubt mark will be back on banging that drum for us again at some point soon. but coming up, should there be a two dnnk coming up, should there be a two drink limit in airports to stop drunken abuse on flights? so we're going to debate that. plus, i will show you what's going on here as pensioner pilots have a miraculous escape. but next, yes, i will have the very first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. but i've been promising this for a while now, and we have got it. keir starmer has said something that
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i think could be seen by many as inflammatory, and it's about the far and i'll bring that
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next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we are on gb news. now i'm going to rattle through some of these front pages for you. we're going to get to keir starmer's latest comments. so here we go. we're going to start with the daily express. farage not a word from our prime minister on the boats crisis. nigel farage has criticised keir starmer for failing to address the latest surge in boat arrivals. let's go to the mirror now. brexit reset pm to work with eu on migrants and trade. he insists britain won't be rejoining the union. you just heard, though, from mark francois, who takes a different view. let's go to the i newspaper . different view. let's go to the i newspaper. starmer must give way on youth migrant classic . way on youth migrant classic. starmer must give way on youth migration to get softer. brexit eu sources claim we could see this coming a mile off the old
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free movement for the under 30s. this will be a negotiation point for them. will he cave in? we'll have to wait and see. let's go to the independent. good news is gary lineker says that he's bored of twitter and he might not use it anymore. hurrah! let's have a street party! but starmer takes step closer to the eu but won't reverse brexit. thatis eu but won't reverse brexit. that is the independent's front page.the that is the independent's front page. the daily star is going off on a story that we're actually going to bring you in a little bit more detail, but it's a picture of a crashed light aircraft in the middle of a road with you can't park there, mate. i'll be telling you about the miraculous escape of two pensioners who. well, i was going to say flying the plane. they weren't flying it very well, were they? but the daily mail motorists face fuel hike under starmer's squeeze. fears of 5pa litre rise as the chancellor and the prime minister refused to rule out a string of tax raids . well, string of tax raids. well, that'll probably help them to tell you that you know, we need to search for greener energy soonen to search for greener energy sooner, don't it? but the daily telegraph, they've got off on the same story. fuel duty could be next in the tax grab. and there is another remarkable story that i'll bring to you in
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the next tranche of newspaper front pages. it's bad news for smokers, by the way. but before all of that , here is the story all of that, here is the story that i've been teasing you about. we can now, weirdly, finally report on how it's gone 10:30. i'll never understand why they're doing this. but anyway, keir starmer says that the uk needs to, quote, be alive to the rise of a german style far right political party in the uk. so it's not just the far right, you know, people anymore. he is now openly saying that we could have a far right political party if we're not careful. the prime minister also said he wanted to work with other progressive parties on mainland europe to take the fight to far right parties. starmer added i think that delivery and honesty is the best way of dealing with the snake oil of populism and nationalism, which is why i set out the tough measures i did yesterday in my speech . it is yesterday in my speech. it is something that occupies my time. i do think in the end, delivery is the way forward. it's about a disaffection in politics. the
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easy answer is appealing. if people don't think there's a better answer . and so better answer. and so progressives have to provide, the better answer, right? okay. so that is the line that starmer is now openly talking about the risk of britain developing a far right political party. arade dam do you think that the far right is becoming a red herring? >> it's an absolute disgrace that this rhetoric that he's saying, look, this is a man that's basically effectively labelling any sort of working class or lower social class of people that dares to speak out about illegal immigration or immigration or the things that affect us every day as far right. these are so far detached from the real people of this country. you know, it astounds me . he's got advisers and people me. he's got advisers and people there. the metropolitan elite. they don't know what what is happening in our towns and cities. yeah, it's not going to get better. >> it's even worse than that, adam that he if i heard that correctly, he said a german
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style far right party. well no no no no no, he wasn't talking about nazis. well, what is he talking? a german style far right party. what does that mean, party? >> the thing is, he didn't deliberately make this statement as something of intent. he was asked a question by journalists and answered with intent. and he. and he. and he answered that. and i forget what the party is called. some kind of acf or something . acf or something. >> the afd, you know. >> the afd, you know. >> so. so he was he so he was saying that that's what we don't needin saying that that's what we don't need in this country is an equivalent of the a.k.a need in this country is an equivalent of the aka the way that there's one area where i have a modicum of sympathy with him. >> if mainstream political parties do deliver, you don't tend to get rises in new insurgent parties. unfortunately, mainstream political parties, not just here but everywhere, have failed to deliver. so you get the afd in germany. i'd be interested in what keir starmer says when he visits italy . meloni in italy is visits italy. meloni in italy is from a populist right wing party. it might only be a few months before he's dealing with president trump, who you might say is a populist right winger.
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he's surely so populist. this is happening because mainstream politics. >> has trump got in? >> has trump got in? >> well, i'm just saying it's happening because mainstream politics has failed. >> yes. but do you think that are you saying that trump coming in would be a positive? >> yes, i think it's a positive thing. we certainly have less less conflicts in the sofa with two lunatics. >> well i have half of america is likely to vote for him. >> he's either going to just win or jessica. >> lisa. that's orjessica. >> lisa. that's offensive. nina. it's three lunatics. >> nina. three. you say leaving you out. >> it's just not on believable. >> it's just not on believable. >> you say you like facts. >> you say you like facts. >> unbelievable. >> unbelievable. >> under donald trump, the world was a much more peaceful place. >> can i just politely steer us like. like herding cats? like herding cats? can i steer us back to keir starmer's latest comments and just say , you know, comments and just say, you know, he's going to germany, where last week i think it was there was that syrian asylum seeker or refugee or whichever you care to call them, who stabbed three people to death at a festival of diversity. isis claimed responsibility for that. he's off to france next. every other week as a as a terrorist attack
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in france. they're trying to blow up a synagogue in montpellier over the weekend, just, you know, same old, same old as far as that's concerned. and starmer's response to this now is apparently to say, well, i'll tell you what, we can't we can't possibly have some kind of far right party. the solution lies in working with progressives. well, i'm sorry, but isn't that the opposite of what a lot of people are thinking? look, i'll come to you. i will come to you on twitter and on social media. >> you have a lot of these lefties that describe the reform party as far right. that is absurd to label someone like nigel farage far right, or someone like me as far right is such stupidity. these people do not realise what the actual far right are right is, and we're not going to get that in this country. normal everyday people like myself wouldn't allow the far right to rise up . we abhor far right to rise up. we abhor racism, we abhor all that sort of thing. it's not going to happen. this is a pr exercise to try and demonise normal . try and demonise normal. >> and there is, there is, there is no mate. there is no you're left wing. >> i'm centre right and i can be
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right wing on certain things. >> and there's no i mean encouragingly, in britain there is no meaningful fascist tradition. we had oswald mosley's blackshirts, but they got virtually nowhere very limited support. we haven't, unlike mainland europe, had much of a fascist tradition here. now, i'm not saying that we should take our eye off the ball, but adam is right. the far right is a minuscule proportion of the british electorate. it's tiny. the reform party is not part of it . nor tiny. the reform party is not part of it. nor are the 14 or 15% who voted for the reform party. they are a mainstream right of centre party . i think right of centre party. i think part of the problem for these so—called progressives is if you're a long way to the left, then everything looks like it's on the far right. and i think whatever nina might think about donald trump or maloney or anything else, we've got to get back to a scenario in which sincere people can honestly disagree without shouting at each other about how they're lunatics. and if you start shouting to people about how they're lunatics, people react quite badly to it. >> can i just ask you because it
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ties in with all of this? right. so if you've got someone like keir starmer who is readily lobbing out, you know, words about far right, and some people would argue fear mongering about this notion of there being an explosion of far right political act or political party. >> well, we saw that a month ago. >> that wasn't far right. >> that wasn't far right. >> oh, you mean left wing? no no no no no no, you're right. so there were some people there was a one bloke who was walking around with a swastika tattoo on his back, right. there were people who wanted to, whatever it was, firebomb, a mosque or whatever it was. yeah, 100%. i agree with you. there were people there who were the far right, but there were not millions of people who were members of the far right. and i just wonder if people feel silenced, nina or people feel unfairly demonised. right. so like i.e. maybe called lunatics or far right or nazis when they're not, does that not actually. then just breed hate. yeah. >> no i don't, i don't agree i think the thing is that if we had a fairer society where everybody felt they had a voice, they were being treated fairly, they, they there was we didn't have the economic crisis that we do have with the national health service that worked with trains
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that that ran , that were that that ran, that were affordable, that, schools weren't collapsing because of concrete failures. we had enough teachers because teachers, you know, 2000 a year or so ago, 43,000 teachers left british schools because because nina, nina, the problem is more and more people have reached the conclusion, rightly or wrongly. >> but nevertheless have reached the conclusion that they do not trust the mainstream political parties and the present political structures to fix those problems. they notice their tax bill is the highest it's ever been in peacetime governments years. government spending is the highest it's ever been. regulation is the highest it's ever been. the number of people working for the state is the highest it's ever been. and these problems persist. so more and more people, i think, are just sceptical that one more heave, one more tax rise, one more check written by the taxpayer will solve any of these problems. >> you've had 14 years where the tory government has spent its time raping this country financially, of instead of being
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for the people they are being for the people they are being for themselves and their mates and labour are going to rape it even more. you don't. >> so your solution is that, by the way, i don't vote labour. >> i didn't vote for keir starmer. >> but your view is that taxes need to be taxes and spending need to be taxes and spending need to be even higher. >> you think, well, yeah, it needs to, you know, you i'm not saying taxes need to be high. >> i'm not saying spending needs to be high. it needs to be. >> you want to see something fairer? >> i think i want something fairer. and you're talking about the nhs. >> a lot of people think the system isn't fair. >> everything needs to be reformed. >> fine. okay. good stuff. all right. now look, we will be back in just a couple of minutes, and we'll probably be picking back up on this. if you have just joined us that that statement at 10:30 pm. was that keir starmer has warned against the rise of a far right political party in britain. whether or not the question i was asking is whether or not you think that's fear mongering, basically. but anyway, look, here's something you don't see every day a light aircraft crashed into a busy road in gloucestershire with the pilot and passenger still sat in the cockpit looking a little bit bemused that they've made it out
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alive. actually, the road located next to an airfield where they were presumably supposed to land, was brought to a halt after the plane landed with a wing missing. debris covering the area . the pilot and covering the area. the pilot and the passenger, who were part of the passenger, who were part of the cotswolds gliding club, were taken to hospital. they only had minor injuries, thankfully. thankfully nobody else was hurt as well, i must say, so they got off lightly there, but remarkable pictures. but anyway, coming up the outspoken ryanair boss wants a two drink limit at airports. a good idea or more needless nanny state nonsense. we debate that when i crown tonight's greatest britain a union jackass. plus i will finally show you what happens next here again, right after i deliver more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. stay tuned
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for welcome back to patrick christys tonight . and you are christys tonight. and you are not going to believe what's on the front page of the sun. here it is. so, are you ready? no. cigarettes and alcohol .
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it is. so, are you ready? no. cigarettes and alcohol. ban on smoking in pub gardens. but wait. there's more. a leaked government document has apparently shown that smoking is going to be outlawed outside football stadiums, nightclubs, restaurant terraces and even in small parks. yeah, so that is apparently the leaked document that has come out of this labour government. they're going to ban you from smoking football stadiums outside the nightclubs, restaurant terraces, even in small parks and in the pub garden . so we'll talk about that garden. so we'll talk about that in a second. the guardian tories woefully understated. the cost of asylum claims think tank. i can believe that, to be fair, but i mean. yeah. anyway, they say that the home office has been accused of submitting woeful budget figures under successive conservative ministers that they , under ministers that they, under understated the ballooning cost of asylum and illegal immigration spending. fine. let's go to the times downing street. tensions grow over sue greys pick for prime minister's top aide. sir keir starmer is
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downing street team is now facing new divisions as the prime minister prepares to appoint his most powerful civil service aide. sue gray. the prime minister's chief of staff is said to be keen on one person discrepancies over who it should be. so there we go, and, let's go to the metro. three pints in. you're out. yeah, we're talking about that later . the scourge of about that later. the scourge of drunken violence on flights . the drunken violence on flights. the ryanair boss, michael o'leary, says he wants passengers to be restricted to two alcoholic dnnks restricted to two alcoholic drinks before boarding the plane . drinks before boarding the plane. those are your front pages. let's deal with what's on the front page of the sun. so apparently leaked documents appear to suggest that this labour government is thinking about banning smoking in pub gardens outside football stadiums , nightclubs and even stadiums, nightclubs and even small parks. mark >> absolute insanity. look, everybody in britain knows smoking is addictive . it carries smoking is addictive. it carries enormous health risks. there is some suggestion that if you smoke in an enclosed area, it perhaps mildly affects the people around you. the idea that you can't light up a cigarette
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in a pub, garden or a park , or in a pub, garden or a park, or within ten yards of a football stadium. i mean, the passing traffic will be polluting your lungs more than somebody lighting a cigarette. it is nannyism gone mad. and i would think for the hospitality industry a disaster. >> well, we have we have a representative of the hospitality industry here. >> so i wonder if keir starmer is trying to be the most hated prime minister in history , prime minister in history, because whoever is advising these people are just doing him up. but look, i own a pub. these people are just doing him up. but look, i own a pub . what up. but look, i own a pub. what right has the government got to tell me ? you know, what people tell me? you know, what people can do in my pub garden? if they want to smoke, they can smoke. it's outdoors. i pay my taxes. i pay my business rates. why shouldn't i have the call on what goes on in my garden? i'm a licensee . i'm trusted by the licensee. i'm trusted by the local authority to keep people behaving and to serve alcohol responsibly. what right have i got to go and tell you or whoever, to put the fag out in a
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garden? it's doing no harm. >> all right, so, nina, i mean, look like. what are you going? they're going to chase me around the park. are they? well, i'm smoking a marlboro gold. >> i have no idea. i've. i've absolutely no idea how they how they're going to police that. but i will say that you say it's bad for your health. it is the worst thing, the worst habit that you can have. it is the worst thing you can do for your health and fine smoke yourself to death in many ways. lungs, not just lung cancer. there's heart problems. there's all sorts of problems. very dangerous. all of that. it costs the nhs billions. >> no it doesn't, because tobacco, tobacco tax pays for it 3 or 4 times over. >> it does. it >> it does. it >> smokers pay for their health care 3 or 4 times over on tobacco tax is still . tobacco tax is still. >> and the thing is you don't. >> and the thing is you don't. >> they are subsidising non—smokers sell cigarettes. >> so why should you care? >> so why should you care? >> because there are the odd customer that will go to the garden and will smoke out the back. he was telling me your favourite tipple. well alcohol. alcohol, even though i sell it, is not good for people and does
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cost the nhs money as well. >> i agree that's very hypocritical of you to say that about smoking. >> no it's not. not to the same extent. absolutely not to. >> the tobacco tax pays for this many times over. >> you say that 3 or 4 times oven >> you say that 3 or 4 times over. all right. okay. as a punter, i don't smoke. i happily 9°, punter, i don't smoke. i happily go, i'd rather go in a garden than not because i like to be outdoors most of the time. as long as the weather's there. i do not like smoke drifting over. >> so that's one. >> so that's one. >> well, then, don't go to his pub enough. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> fair enough. it might not lie. >> a restaurant outside the same thing happens. >> this is going to kill. >> this is going to kill. >> why should i have secondary smoke? >> but. but you know. i'm sorry, but do you mind not eating while i'm smoking? nina? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that my eating does not affect you. >> whereas you're up to the landlord. >> fair enough. >> fair enough. >> all right. okay, okay. okay. right. okay. now it's time to wizards over to great britain. is it? greatest britain, union jack, or are we doing. yeah we are. all right, let's do that then it's time to reveal today's greatest britain. right who's your greatest weird one? >> this raheem sterling, one of the greatest footballers of his generation. can't play for chelsea anymore. has had the
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shirt number stripped from him. complained that he couldn't get into the chelsea team. might end up at manchester united. a worker looking to work hard, looking for an employer if he doesn't find a new team soon, i dare say keir starmer will nationalise him and give him a pay nationalise him and give him a pay rise. >> us agent mine is an honorary nomination. it's robert f kennedy jr for putting his democratic links in the past and backing trump in the presidential race. i think it's brave. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> honourable dead animals. he put it , he put >> honourable dead animals. he put it, he put it. he put the head of a dead whale on top of his car and a dead bear carcase, and he knows how to party about the deer carcase. tonight there's a new story. the head of a dead whale on top of his car. what is wrong with him? all right, well, okay. >> and it was your greatest president. >> well. >> well. >> it's honorary. this is michael o'leary. young mr michael o'leary. young mr michael o'leary. young mr michael o'leary of ryanair. and ihave.i michael o'leary of ryanair. and i have. i loathe ryanair, but he's opened up the debate. he's opened up the debate about drinking at airports and if you've ever been trapped on a
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flight with a, with a stag party or a hen, do as i was a year ago, coming back from crete, then my god, you , nina, you're then my god, you, nina, you're like the fun police. >> no, it's not the last time i was on a ryanair flight, someone got arrested on the tarmac at stansted airport. a woman was sitting off. anyway. right. so sorry. i'm sorry i'm getting shouted at here. and rightly so. today's winner of the greatest britain although i must say this was a hard one. was robert f kennedy jr. because, i didn't go for the others . there you go. for the others. there you go. right. who's your new jack carson, >> patrick, the fire brigade. get this. the fire brigade is my union jackass. they were called out in 2023 every four hours to deal with moving obese people who couldn't help themselves. they are not. they are not the fatness brigade, patrick. they are the fire brigade . five times are the fire brigade. five times higher than ten years ago. >> theirjob? higher than ten years ago. >> their job? yes. higher than ten years ago. >> theirjob? yes. theirjob is to put out fires. >> it's the fault of fat. so you should pay if you need that assistance. they are there to put out fires. if nina is worried about smoking, she should be also worried about obesity.
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>> rattle through. absolutely. rattle, rattle nomination is gary lineker who i'm blocked from on twitter because he doesn't like being not missing anything because he's moaned about twitter and elon musk, yet he promotes his podcast on there. >> he's a hypocrite. >> he's a hypocrite. >> all right. now we've got about 30s, the lner, the train company for failing tanni grey thompson in such a humiliating fashion. >> she went from leeds to king's cross. she should have had assistance when she arrived and had to crawl herself. >> yeah . shocking story, >> yeah. shocking story, shocking story. all right. well, actually three, three good choices there. i've gone for gary lineker to be honest with you. just just because really. but look, thank you very much everybody. i have really enjoyed tonight a really welcome addition. so thank you, thank you thank you thank you. it's headliners are up next. i'm having a great time doing these shows at the moment. i hope you're enjoying watching and listening to you. i'll be back with you tomorrow at 9 pm. for a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news, weather
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update brought to you from the met office. thursday will be a breezy and showery day for northwestern areas elsewhere , northwestern areas elsewhere, though dry and feeling fairly warm in the sun, but it is going to be a fresher day tomorrow compared to today. as as this weather front is expected to clear away to the south and east throughout tonight, taking with it some rain which will affect northeastern areas of england, some eastern areas of scotland through this evening. still a few showers across the north and west, but for many of us it will turn much drier and clearer overnight tonight. so that does mean it's going to be a fresher night. temperatures will fall away into single figures, rural towns and cities just about in double digits. so fresher but bright start to the day for many areas. however, across the north and west there will still be some quite frequent and potentially quite heavy showers . potentially quite heavy showers. across many southern areas, we could see a few patches of mist and fog developing, particularly across western counties of england. a few showers pushing into parts of wales, potentially as well as northwestern england and northern ireland. but i think the most frequent and heaviest showers will affect the western isles, the highlands ,
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western isles, the highlands, through thursday morning. the likely linger through much of the day, a drier start across eastern areas of scotland. those showers will progress eastwards to affect these areas later on on thursday, as well as some eastern areas of northern england too. but elsewhere, as i said, it should be a relatively dry and fine day and it will feel fairly warm in the sunshine. as i said, it is a fresher day tomorrow compared to today. we'll lose that humid feel so temperatures just about 23 or 24 degrees at best in the south and east, widely in the high teens or low 20s. however, that's about average for the time of year. now, friday we've got high pressure centred
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gb news. >> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer says the uk needs to be alive to the rise of a german style far right party in the uk. the prime minister has also said he wanted to work with other progressive parties on mainland europe to take the fight to far right parties. he added i think delivery and honesty is the best way of dealing with the snake oil of populism and nationalism, which is why i set out the tough measures i did yesterday in my speech this morning, the prime minister said a new uk germany treaty will be part of a wider reset with europe. sir keir starmer was in germany to launch negotiations on a new bilateral treaty, which hopes to boost business and increase joint action on illegal migration.
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