with europe. sir keir reset with europe. sir keir starmer was in germany to launch negotiations on a new bilateral treaty, which hopes to boost business and increase joint action on illegal migration. speaking during a joint news conference with the german chancellor in berlin, he described it as a moment of opportunity to deepen links between the uk and germany. sir keir starmer has condemned the violence seen at notting hill carnival, which left over 60 police officers injured. the prime minister says i will condemn anyone using violence. that's as a man has been charged with attempted murder over the stabbing of a 32 year old mother at notting hill carnival, 20 year old shaquille thibou has appeared in court charged with the attempted murder of cher. maximum. she's in a coma in a life threatening condition and may have to have her leg amputated. two other men have been charged in relation to that same incident. the three men are brothers . the billionaire brothers. the billionaire founder of encrypted messaging app

founder of encrypted messaging app telegram has been charged with allegedly allowing criminal activity on the app. french judges have barred pavel durov from leaving france pending further investigation, but he's avoided jail time with a ,5 million bail. he was arrested in france on saturday. the russian born entrepreneur was questioned about allegations his platform was being used to exchange child sexual abuse material and also by crime gangs for drug trafficking, fraud and money laundering. but telegram has responded by insisting it abides by eu laws and its moderation is within industry standards and constantly improving. it says . constantly improving. it says. and the fbi says the gunman who tried to kill donald trump showed a mixture of ideologies and that the motive is unclear . and that the motive is unclear. fbi officials also say the suspected shooter, thomas crooks, had mounted a sustained , crooks, had mounted a sustained, detailed effort to attack a major gathering of some sort before deciding to target the republican presidential

candidate at that rally in pennsylvania last month. the shooting left an audience member dead and two others injured . and dead and two others injured. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. now it's time for headliners. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . gbnews.com. forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at thursday's newspapers. i'm steven allen. joining me tonight we have cressida wetton who is a woman, and nick dixon who is a man. and they say we don't do balance. are you both doing feeling good. >> very good. thank you for that great diversity. >> it is a good example both a man and a woman. yeah. and what are you. >> well, i mean , as host, i'm >> well, i mean, as host, i'm not committing to either side. >> non—binary. >> non—binary.

>> yeah. i think that's what they call it these days. look, look how very modern we've become all of a sudden, isn't it? become all of a sudden, isn't it.7 look at us. so, no, i'm not used to chatting to people. and when it's not the weekend. so you might have actually done something worthwhile. anything happen on your wednesday? >> you're not used to chatting to people when it's not the weekend. >> if i'm not here, like hosting, saying, oh, i see, how's your day? >> very specific mental disorder. >> no, ijust disorder. >> no, i just talked to a two year old. that's what i do as a parent and he's not doing anything all day. >> i didn't even know it was wednesday until you just said then all days are the same to me. >> well, miss havisham, isn't he? >> happy he? >> happy times he? >> happy times all right, let's crack on and take a look at thursday's front pages. the express goes with farage. not a word from our pm on the boats crisis. the times mass release of inmates rolls, the dice on crime and downing street . crime and downing street. tensions grow over sue greys pick for pm's top aide. the guardian tories woefully underestimated the cost of asylum claims. think tank the daily mail motorists face fuel hike under starmer's squeeze and the sun know cigarettes and alcohol ban on smoking in pub

gardens. and finally, the daily star . you gardens. and finally, the daily star. you can't park there, mate. miracle escape as glider crash lands on busy roads. and those are your front pages . those are your front pages. let's work out what some of that was about then. cressida what are the sun going with? >> no cigarettes and alcohol. it's a crazy situation. they say. apparently the government's going to ban smoking in pub gardens. what? and other places as well. they're going to ban it from pub gardens as well as outside football stadiums. and nightclubs. nightclubs. how can you ban smoking from outside nightclubs? i mean, that's the smoking area is a really key part of our society. in my opinion. so this is all part of the wider plan to bin cigarettes. i know they're trying to phase out by age, aren't they? so that if you're born in when is it the 90s or something, you will never be able to buy cigarettes. and this, of course, as the sun are pointing out, is just as oasis

have got back together. >> yeah. so actually i think you pronounce it wrong. it's a crazy situation, sian. you got to get that in there, isn't it, yeah. you're right. if we don't have smoking in nightclubs, the faff of, like, going. and if i go out, can i get back in again? you have a hand stamp? oh, you're the bouncer. and where are they going to go? >> they're going to have to just 90, >> they're going to have to just go, like to the next street, or there'll be a border somewhere eventually, unless you can ban it in the entire nation, in which case, you know, they'll be like radio caroline happening again. >> it's never going to work. >> it's never going to work. >> well, yes, i do go to a lot of nightclubs, steve, and, to enjoy myself with a range of people. and we have drinks and beverages and whatever their dips. i don't know what happens . dips. i don't know what happens. >> i suppose you don't pronounce it nightclub. yeah >> i can't calm down. i'm not jacob rees—mogg. the point is, steve, people are going to hate me for this. they always hate me. i get so many tweets. i get as many tweets as josh gets if i talk about this. but the point is, he always says, i'm going to get the tweets. but i'm being like, louis, i'm not getting to the point. the point is, i'm so

against smoking. i'm almost in favour of this because i'm so against smoking and it goes against smoking and it goes against my base. they don't like it. and, you know, smokers are often more interesting people, but i hate smoking so much that i'm kind of like insane about it and almost fascistic about it. so but i hate myself for it. i'm torn. >> your chance to shine. this is your chance to show that you shine. shine to show that you will allow things that you don't like. >> yeah, there's so many things i don't like being allowed . i i don't like being allowed. i mean, this is the only thing i actually agree that the regime does because i hate everything they do. but this thing, i'm like, sort of i'll like keep quiet about it. if it was me, they'd be like, why is nick not raising that in the house of commons? and i just sort of let it pass. it'd be terrible. but i will say james murdoch was putting it to his constituents on twitter, as he likes to do. he's a reform mp, and i just saw someone reply to him, woke nonsense, james. now i'm the king of calling things woke. but is it actually woke? is it kind of woke or is it more health and safety safety ism going anyway? >> isn't it. it's something that governments do, isn't it? historically, when the people are kind of getting to a point where they don't believe in something anymore, then they

outlaw it. but i think they're just a bit early with this. >> although, i mean, you could actually gain some points back by pointing out this isn't a starmer thing, it's a rishi sunak thing. this was the first thought of by rishi sunak, with his weird way of banning everything, including vapes. so it's just following through on that. >> i always thought it was silly when sunak had so many pressing problems. they were talking about smoking. so before i get the tweets, i'm not saying i'd literally ban it. i'm just saying it wouldn't be my number one priority because i hate smoking so much and can't even be around it. >> yeah, and one thing on the list if you read the article, i never go out. they obviously the front page is all about banning it in beer gardens don't make any sense. they also want to ban it in kids play areas. and i'm like yeah, yeah okay. like that should have been done. >> yes, they should allow it in beer gardens because i'm not going to be there anyway. maybe after he played football. but that's fine. you're in the open air. so presumably these gardens are outside steve. so that's not so bad, is it? i don't think we should be using the state for this. >> i think we should be using harnessing the power of shame, which is why you don't smoke in a children's play area. that's true. >> although today i was in the park today because the two year old and there was somebody was

there with the kids and she stood outside. this is an open air park anyway, but she stood outside of the gate to smoke and like you stood there, love, this is literally less than a foot away because you're on the other side of a metal fence. >> it's tricky if you think about comedy clubs. if they still allow smoking in pubs and clubs, we'd all be dead. >> that's true. yeah. all right. on that happy note, we can move on to nick the cover of the telegraph. what have they got? >> we can and we will, steve. they've got. well, they've got one about fuel duty. could be the next in the tax grab. but we've also got, we've all been let down by genius. and edwards says bbc chief tim davie. and this is sort of a grimly amusing story where they try and tie together a man who essentially groomed a young man and sent or received images of child pornography with a bloke who flirted a bit via text message. these are not the same thing. you can't really go. and jenas is first, not even second. it's not edwards and genius. it's genius and edwards. oh yeah, he did something as well. poor genius. like he just texted. i'm not saying it's great, but it's not saying it's great, but it's not comparable, is it? but it's their way of scapegoating. genius. and just trying to say, oh yeah, we'll tackle all that genius edwards stuff. he's been so unfairly, harshly done by. i saw a report the other day and

they said, and jermaine genius was being groomed by gary lineker, and it was like a pause. and i was like , sorry to pause. and i was like, sorry to be the new match of the day. i was like, oh, okay. because at the bbc you've got to finish that sentence quite quickly . that sentence quite quickly. >> yeah, there are some verbs. you should just leave now that someone else owns them. yeah, yeah, yeah. you can't even go near a horse with a brush these days. >> true. >> true. >> i thought genius was being brought back. isn't he on a lower salary? have i seen that? that's not in this. this piece. perhaps i've allegedly. no, i might have that completely wrong. i thought i read that earlier today that he was kind of being brought back, but not in the same. >> i love you're so worried about ofcom or getting sued like, allegedly he's being brought back. would he really like sue? i'm not being brought back. that's such a weird lawsuit. >> i don't i don't want to mislead people. i just thought i read that on twitter today or in a newspaper somewhere. >> one of the taxi or one of the taxis? >> yes , for legal reasons. >> yes, for legal reasons. >> yes, for legal reasons. >> that was a joke as well. >> that was a joke as well. >> he might say a joke. >> that was a joke as well. >> he might say a joke . clearly >> he might say a joke. clearly a joke. yeah, yeah. it's ridiculous. >> it's not grooming. if you if you want to receive the message, maybe it still is. i don't know . maybe it still is. i don't know. >> well, don't get me started on that unsolicited messages with a consenting adult, which is i don't. but anyway , that's

don't. but anyway, that's another topic. >> fair enough. the front page of the we've done the telegraph, aren't we. which which one? we went on to. now let's do the guardian. the guardian is what we're going to go for. christopher duffy. >> that would be my choice, the main story is tories woefully understated. the cost of asylum claims think tank. but we're not doing that. we're looking at this one down here. uk youths experience happiness , recession. experience happiness, recession. so more 15 year olds are reporting low lifestyle life satisfaction in britain than almost anywhere else in europe, we're not happy. we're not a happy bunch here. so i don't know why why europe is so much happier than us. >> did they dup than the dutch? >> did they dup than the dutch? >> did they watch keir starmers speech? was that it? things are going to get worse and be horrible. they're already bad and they'll get even worse. do you think that pushed them over the edge? i didn't think, no, i can't do that one over the edge just with that. yeah. i mean maybe, maybe it's because maybe they're white and everyone hates young white men. that's just a guess. but there's not much to not to be happy about. is there? there's so many things telling

you. doom and gloom in the climate. some of them, they believe that. so they're miserable about that. starmer everything else nuclear weapons. russia. i'm just naming countries now israel as a country. palestine. >> the question then would be why the dutch so flipping happy? >> they've always been a bit annoyingly happy, haven't they? it's because they tell the truth and they just they're just to us. they're rude. >> very interesting. >> very interesting. >> and we're not encouraged to do that in our society. they get it out and put it on the other person. >> we put it on the inside, just like steve, i don't like your tie today and then just walk off. >> you're like, why did you say that? yeah, because i'm dutch. >> i didn't like the dutch. >> i didn't like the dutch. >> yeah, it's the worst. >> yeah, it's the worst. >> you're absolutely right. we've done that in the ovens. and then finally we can go to the what's the star, nick? >> i don't think the dutch ovens were the worst ones historically, but never mind. can you can you say that at 5 am. or any time on television? >> let's make a bake off. >> let's make a bake off. >> we don't know, anyway, it's been nice working here for a couple of years, but, daily star has miracle escape as glider crash lands on busy road and they've gone with you. can't

park there, mate. and i haven't looked into this story in depth, steve. i haven't had the time because it is quite a big story, but this is one of those stories where because the people are safe , you can say, oh, you can't safe, you can say, oh, you can't park there, mate, but otherwise it would just be horrific tragedy. >> they're safe. but they both got taken to hospital and different hospitals, which tells me you probably shouldn't even be saying that presumably had different needs unless it's just so bad. there was only one space in each hospital. this is near where i grew up. i don't think i know them. you sound like ricky gervais. >> different hospitals for different needs. remember the office? but yeah , that's if office? but yeah, that's if you're right. >> if they are, i don't know if they are okay. i'd be surprised if they were. it's because they've fallen out of the sky. >> yes. and it's a bit of a flippant headline if they're not okay. >> yes . maybe they were just >> yes. maybe they were just separated like naughty kids in class . like they don't want them class. like they don't want them to go into the same hospital in case they get up to this kind of nonsense . right. nonsense. right. >> well, that's true, they have going off in gliders and stuff. >> yeah , that's this is the >> yeah, that's this is the problem with gliders. >> they don't have an engine. >> they don't have an engine. >> yes. in the name isn't it. >> yeah. it's normally you say they fell out of the sky. that's what gliding is. it's slowing out, falling out the sky slowly. and they just did the speed

wrong. >> it happens to the best of us. >> it happens to the best of us. >> it happens to the best of us. >> i don't understand these kind of hobbies. it's not for me. it's not, is it? >> it don't make any sense. put an engine on it and then you could fly away from the an engine on it. >> call it a plane. yeah. >> call it a plane. yeah. >> so honestly, these people have not thought it through. that's the front pages covered in the next bit. are we rejoining the eu? are rejoining reform and are the middle class joining the working

next. welcome back to headliners. i'm stephen allen with cressida wetton and nick dixon. cressida the guardian to starmer have plans to send our young men to europe and to get german ones coming over here. i've made that sound like world war ii. sorry about that. >> you have. starmer appears to leave the door open for potential eu youth exchange scheme, so he's not saying they will, but he hasn't exactly said they won't. he's talking. so he's been to have a chat with the german chancellor and the talking about how we can improve

the relationship. we're not going back in the eu, but how can we improve the relationship? there's lots of talk about bilateral agreements between specific countries not going back into the eu as a whole. and this thing about youth exchange scheme keeps coming up. so he obviously likes interrailing as much as kirstie allsopp , or more much as kirstie allsopp, or more than possibly , but yeah, i mean, than possibly, but yeah, i mean, obviously people's concerns are that this is him edging back towards the eu, he says that any future talks with the eu over an improved post—brexit deal would be based on red lines, including no return to the free movement of people. and if people can move around, it's going to be time limited. so it's like a like a working holiday visa for australia. you know, you can go for a limited amount of time. you can work, experience the culture and then you've got to come home is what he's saying at the moment. yeah. >> pupil exchange was never the big problem, is it. that wasn't the reason people were going. i'll tell you what, i wouldn't have voted brexit if it weren't for those 12 year old germans coming over here for a few months. >> no, you're right, but one does worry because he's saying

no single market, no customs union, no free movement, no going back into the eu. but he also said no tax increases. he also said no tax increases. he also said no tax increases. he also said he'd put country before party, which he totally hasn't done even a little bit. so you go do i trust starmer? obviously not. so who knows . and obviously not. so who knows. and once you're in the single market, once you're effectively acting as if you're in the single market, then at some point some guy in brussels is just going to go just go back in the single market. and then that's what's going to happen. if you speak to people in the blob and the extended blob, as i call it, the deep state, they all want this. they all were desperate to get starmer in. they all hated boris because they all want to go back in the eu. and this is if starmer is in for long enough. that's what will happen, i think. annoying in all but name. maybe, maybe not in name. yeah. >> carry on. no annoying flip side that will get me the tweets on this one. isn't this what people voted for when they voted for brexit? the idea that you take back control and then whoever is the prime minister of the time gets to make decisions about which countries they have deals with. it just so happens one of this country is also in the eu . the eu.

>> yeah, and it depends on the deal >> yeah, and it depends on the deal, doesn't it? it depends because we know what we know what the eu are like. steve, if we start trying to have deals with germany, access to the single market, brussels is going to step in and say, what are we getting out of it? you know, like kind of like shaking us down like we're there, tony soprano and we're running a small cigar shop. they're going to come and say, we want our cut. i don't know if that's in the sopranos, but, but so there's that. but yeah, maybe there's that. but yeah, maybe there's something in your point , there's something in your point, but the i'm more worried now about currently about the echr to be honest with you, that's the that's the big one because that's that's the boat we've come out of the eu. it turns out to do nothing while you're in the echr because you can't do anything about the boats because they, they all just you lose a legal case, they all come back. >> you know, the human rights word, which has all the echr stuff folded in for us, is the reason the silent prayer woman was allowed to silently pray. it's a protected thing in isabel varne spruce. >> yeah . interesting. yeah. >> yeah. interesting. yeah. >> yeah. interesting. yeah. >> so if we leave the echr, then, yeah, you could clamp down on the silent prayers. >> isn't that weird? the idea. i mean, we came up with all these rights, the idea that we need to be in europe to allow someone to pray in england. >> counterintuitive. it makes me

want to go and have a google. all right. and i think. >> no. yeah. steve, google just spreading misinformation and malinformation, which is true. >> but stuff we don't like that's you're spreading malinformation on on gb news with your lefty malinformation. >> yeah, the things that are true, but you don't like actually i should have that tattooed on me. that's exactly what i tried to nick the daily mail. a labour government might want richer people to pay more tax than poorer people. what? why weren't we warned about this? it's so shocking. >> i see what you've done there, steve. with your lefty propaganda. yeah, it's. keir starmer has been accused of plotting a tax raid on the middle classes after he admitted that the looming budget will be painful and we touched on this last night, of course. but this is more detail. last night, of course. but this is more detail . we know pretty is more detail. we know pretty much what he was saying. we know he's going to increase, you know, capital gains and inheritance tax. that's what we think anyway. some people say he's making it sound so bad now, lowering expectations, almost a sort of suicidal levels. and then he'll pick us back up when it won't be quite as bad as we thought. it's a risky tactic, but presumably that's what he might be doing. but the sort of

update to it is all the responses from the tory leaders. remember the tories? they're back again. they didn't have any comment. yeah, it's a minor party. they didn't have any comment on the riots. i know it's in the old two tier thing and all condemning half the population, but they're back now to talk about tax. so kemi said keir starmer is taking the british public for fools, but his dishonest analysis won't wash. he campaigned on promises he couldn't deliver and now he's being found out and she's saying it's going to be a tax rate on the middle classes. jenrick says that he is not. starmer has not taken to long show his true colours. 53 days after entering downing street on read my lips. no new taxes . downing street on read my lips. no new taxes. he's now downing street on read my lips. no new taxes . he's now already no new taxes. he's now already planning to break his promise, so even the union bosses are saying stuff like that though as well. so everyone's saying this is bad and grim and it's going to be tough on everyone. >> okay, you won't like this, but it's true. his promise wasn't no new taxes. his promise were like vat, national insurance , income tax, no insurance, income tax, no increases on those ones that you listed. he won't break that promise, surely? >> well, i wouldn't like to say, but even so, i mean, it's not in the spirit of what was promised, is it? it's not. have you met

politicians? >> have you heard of politicians? >> shocked. i'm shocked, well. okay. fine but what irritates everyone is when they say we've just looked in the cupboards and there's nothing in there, and everyone's like, how did you not know the state of things? >> yeah, they're invited to the meetings before. anyway, they knew the info. >> i couldn't believe that james o'brien, he said they didn't know about that black hole, the 22 billion whatever. so he goes in many ways that gives him a free pass. a free pass. does it just give you a free pass ? even just give you a free pass? even you wouldn't say that, would you, steve? >> not at all. and i disagree with the idea that it's a surprise to them. there are clips of them saying it was a £40 billion black hole before the election. so they they got it wrong and they've erred on the side. they should be happy. they should go, oh guys, it's only 20 billion. yeah. >> let's all cheer up. i didn't like this thing. we have no other choice, which is another thing starmer said. and the entrepreneur daniel priestley picked up on this on twitter with quite a good point. he's like, there's always a choice. he's like, we've got places like dubal he's like, we've got places like dubai, which are fast growth, low tax. he's like, why can't we copy those places? he's saying we should have the highest gdp per capita in the world, potentially. he talked about us having a perfect time zone , mild

having a perfect time zone, mild climate. he laid the whole thing out. and you do wonder why. climate. he laid the whole thing out. and you do wonder why . why out. and you do wonder why. why do we have to be so poor and rubbish? >> it's only short term pain so we can have long term pain, long term, slightly less pain. well, maybe not even that. cressida, the telegraph oaps have to fill in a massive form for the winter fuel payments. but on the plus side, those big forms will burn for a while if you need to keep warm. nice >> pensioners forced to answer 243 questions to claim winter fuel payments. challenging 22 page form discourages retirees from signing up for pension credit. so this sounds awful, doesn't it ? on the surface, some doesn't it? on the surface, some of the questions, there's this question they have to answer. does your partner agree to your application? i don't know what to make of that. i know people do argue about thermostats, but that's not really relevant here, so they're having to fill in all these forms and everything. but i think people on benefits probably have to do this anyway. right. and somebody from age concern has said it's actually not a particularly long form.

it's not as complex as others. as forms go . so i think this as forms go. so i think this might be a bit of a non—story. i mean, it's just highlighting the fact that pensioners have got to jump fact that pensioners have got to jump through hoops to get it, but i don't think the form is really that big a deal. >> don't say non—story. if we say it one more time, he appears , say it one more time, he appears, but, you're right. i mean, the i was amazed at the byzantine complexity of the benefit system. so it's actually sadly true that 243 questions is like a chill form by their standards. but yeah, they're saying old people. i'd actually like to believe that this was to put old people off just because they'd at least be some sort of intent then, rather than just the fact that bureaucracy is just out of control. i mean, at least there'd be some sort of thought behind it. the likely reality is just that it's just a mess. i'm not saying i'd like it, but i'm saying that's probably giving them too much credit is a better way of putting it. >> yeah. and the bit in the story where they say, like, if all the pensioners are entitled to this credit sign up, it would wipe out the savings that will make by scrapping winter fuel. good. that would be a better thing, wouldn't it? if all the people who are entitled to it get it, and all the people who don't need it, don't get it,

forget about your black hole. that's a better situation, isn't it? >> it's a good system. taxing the most fraud , whatever. the most fraud, whatever. >> the ones with the broad shoulders isn't the idea that there will be people who really can't cope, for whom it's much more difficult and i guess the idea is they think those people will fall off the edge and. and steve webb is the pensions guy is telling everyone to call the dwp. i think they might be busy. i mean, imagine trying to get through at the moment to speak to these people. >> yeah , well, let's move on to >> yeah, well, let's move on to the telegraph. nick and other tories and reform the new mcbusted. there's a reference. >> great reference. so 4 in 10 tory members back reform uk merger . this tory members back reform uk merger. this was yougov and they found that 51% of tory members opposed a merger with. i was going to say just with farage. that's what it is really, isn't it. it's farage merging with the tories and 42% supported it. so it's fairly close and it's and it's fairly close and it's and it's also 25% of conservative voters switched to reform at the election, which is massive. so basically they do have to do something like this because there's only two choices, really. one, the tories adopt

farage, at very least in spirit, ideally in his actual person . or ideally in his actual person. or the tories have to be crushed and reformed, become the opposition . because if the right opposition. because if the right is split, we're going to get more and more painful starmer forever. so they have to sort it out, they have to do something. and it's interesting that 68% support leaving the echr. so that's a big of the 910 tory members surveyed. so that's a massive point. and listen to this. more than half, 56% would have a freeze on all migration into the uk. oh no, sorry, 57% would have a freeze on all migration into the uk for the next five years. so it shows how kind of, you know, fairly radical people have become on immigration. so the tories need to get wise to that. and either, like i say, incorporate farage or they'll be destroyed. >> but so if 51% don't like the idea, if they merge, 51% stop voting, they could lose 51% of the tory vote and gain all of the tory vote and gain all of the 5 million people who voted for reform reform think they're going to gain some labour votes, don't they? >> and that's been borne out. there was a survey last week, 14%, i don't know exactly what the question was, but they were

asking labour voters who would they put second. and they said tories were only 6% of those people. and reform were 14, which is. that's pretty crazy. i mean, it doesn't necessarily mean, it doesn't necessarily mean those people will vote for reform, but yeah, surely i mean, you wouldn't need to merge them ehhen >> you'd just nick their best policies . policies. >> yeah, i agree, but then when you said maybe they just need to become like farage, i can't see that happening. >> no, because they don't have anyone either with anything like the charisma. so and it's interesting like kemi badenoch mel stride and james cleverly have ruled out merging, but jenrick's being a bit more generic, did say, well, he did try and destroy the party so he couldn't really see it. but i noficed couldn't really see it. but i noticed priti patel, she's basically mates with farage, she's not said anything and tugendhat is playing a kind of clever game where he's pretending to be right wing. so he's not said anything interesting. let's see. i can see you want to move on. yeah, well that's the part two. >> but in the next section , >> but in the next section, non—crime hate incidents are to be monitored, which at least means someone will be watching this show and gary lineker might leave x i always knew he was

next. welcome back to headliners cressida, the express and a man who threw cement at nigel farage doesn't go to jail, even though they had concrete evidence . they had concrete evidence. >> yes, that's why they pay you some money. >> man avoids jail after throwing cement at nigel farage dunng throwing cement at nigel farage during election campaign . so during election campaign. so this is the guy from derbyshire who was 28, who threw cement at nigel farage, who was in this building, site, area and he just grabbed something, threw it at the bus, the battle bus. it became a battle bus. and he's been given six weeks in prison, suspended for 12 months. so he's not going inside. he did it. he said he did it. we saw him do it, he's also got to carry out 120 hours of unpaid work and some other bits and pieces. rehabilitation activity days. that sounds fun. and pay £85 court costs and a surcharge of £154. but he's still he's still

at large. >> yeah, well, nick, to be fair, he didn't tweet about it. >> and that's the key , isn't it? >> and that's the key, isn't it? we've got people in the riots. they're tweeting things that are misguided , but they they're misguided, but they they're getting three years in jail. and there was one young man got three years in jail. he went to prison in two days. he tweeted something very misguided about, you know , i don't care what you know, i don't care what happens to the migrants, but still, there's a world between that and throwing a thing of cement at farage's head. and that gets you an £85 fine and a surcharge of £154 suspended sentence. it completely tweeted it's called two tier folks. it's pure two tier. and particularly ridiculous is that there's an element of setting an example. why is starmer punishing all these people horribly is to set an example. he wants to deter people doing it right because otherwise it's out of control. but this is an example. this is saying that you're allowed to

left are good at i will say the left are good at that. starmer is just not that starmer runs all the courts, but the regime is punishing its enemies and rewarding its friends. >> he didn't hit nigel farage with it because the guy has got no aim, so i reckon that somehow saved him. >> yeah, i guess it did, but it's not really the point , is it? >> no, it's not as though he wasn't trying. that's this is not good at something. >> the fact that it was farage probably saved him. although, you know, there is an argument that, weirdly, politicians haven't taken that seriously. threats against themselves still, you know , they they still, you know, they they talked about it. the speaker of the house was concerned about it. but when we had jo cox murdered, we have sir david amess murdered. you think, when are they going to start taking this really seriously? >> would say, what are your discontinuation criteria? there's nothing else. could you do that would make people take action? >> that was the best impression this show has ever seen. of all the ones, it was strong. >> he just did it. trump did you see it? i'd like to see you doing all the voices in these interviews. >> cressida to the express gary lineker says he doesn't like tweeting since elon musk took oven tweeting since elon musk took over, proving he didn't read his

comments before them. >> gary lineker whinges that he's been silenced by odd bloke elon musk after backlash . well, elon musk after backlash. well, this is a sad story, isn't it? gary lineker no longer finds sharing his thoughts pleasurable, which is funny because lots of people haven't found that pleasurable for a long time. gary, will he be missed? i don't know, so yeah, he thinks that used to be fun on twitter. used to be able to have little chats with people. he's complained about the fact that he used to be able to have little chats with people. he either followed or were blue tick people, but now everyone's got a blue tick, so that doesn't work anymore. so it's like gary complaining about lack of boundaries, which is sort of funny, isn't it? unvetted people coming into his space. >> nice. yeah, it's a very snobby mindset. it's like, who let this riff raff into the vip area? oh, everyone's got a blue tick now. you only talk to blue tick. so it's so snobby and it's also. yeah, the idea it's very unpleasant. now, you used to no longer a pleasurable experience because people tell the truth in their replies. and that used to be censored. and all the people that told the truth were banned from the platform. so you won't like that. and one thing i find particularly distasteful is this

idea that elon musk is a very odd bloke. i mean, maybe it's true, but he is neurodivergent. i thought the left cared about such things as much as he has asperger's. i thought, you know, what happened to that? because really, the left hide behind this idea of like, oh, we're so nice . and virtue signalling nice. and virtue signalling really just comes down to old fashioned bullying, where the in—group where the cool people and you can come in if you have and you can come in if you have a blue tick, but not if you're a weirdo like elon musk, who runs 3 or 4 massive companies and just a total loser. it's just pathetic, isn't it? just on that level, just kind of bullying? >> well, musk is quite disturbing in that way, isn't he? because there's lots of things about him that traditionally wouldn't have been celebrated by the human race. and yet he's this mega successful guy with a ton of kids and a lot of success with women. and it's what tech's done to the world, isn't it? it's made unlikely. men really successful. >> revenge of the nerds. >> revenge of the nerds. >> yeah, yeah , that's that's >> yeah, yeah, that's that's always been the good side. >> i read this story and just didn't see that as an insult. i own it, yeah, be a bit odd. i think i'm odd. i'm not like, richest man in the world. odd. i wish i were odder if it would get me some more of this sweet cash. >> well, that's what i mean. you know, sort of where, like, the hater gb news people or

whatever. and but it comes down to that, it comes a lot of this movement comes down to just a hatred of outsiders and a very conformist thinking . right. conformist thinking. right. >> well, we'll move on to the daily mail to australia, where a male paedophile became a female paedophile while awaiting jail. like in jurassic park, where the dinosaur swapped gender. life finds a way. >> yeah , life finds in this case >> yeah, life finds in this case a fairly horrific way. its notorious female paedophile, which the daily mail got to be either trolling or should be very ashamed of themselves. inmate dubbed leader of the pack , inmate dubbed leader of the pack, is accused of running a child abuse ring from behind bars at men's jail as police reveal shocking new allegations. so they keep calling this person herself, which i refuse to do . herself, which i refuse to do. this person is calling him. basically, he's calling himself jessica now, but his real name is dean. angus bell would be called the dead name in in whatever circles. but you look at the pictures, obviously a man i mean, it's completely absurd. >> we haven't got the picture, but if you see the pictures, i don't think the daily mail are joining in with this ideology at all. i think they're just poking you to say what? it's clearly a

bloke. and i would argue that dean bell is . well, sorry, dean bell is. well, sorry, what's the current name? jessica is not a trans person, not a good faith member of the trans community at all, but somebody who's, well, a child abuser who's, well, a child abuser who's in prison and probably has all sorts of strange mental things going on and has i don't. what i don't understand is, how can you do this in a male prison and not expect a lot of personal grief for that? i don't know how prisons work. maybe they're kept by themselves. i don't know what. >> if you're going by the if you've given yourself the nickname of leader of the pack, surely you're not in solitary. >> yeah, and that is a weird. it's got a sort of gary glitter and my gang vibes is what came to my head. but it's a completely sick crime. the crimes are so horrific, you sort of get distracted by the obscenity of the wilderness, but the crimes are absolutely horrific. it's like sharing. it's like they shared letters detailing real life experiences, abusing children. i mean, it's as sick as it could be. and then you've got this secondary obscenity of pretending to be a woman. the whole thing is disgusting . disgusting. >> and if this were written in a different way in different

newspapers, it should be the case that if you are all about the trans rights, you should hate this story. >> absolutely. yeah, yeah. if i were a trans person reading this, i'd cringe and i'd hate it. yeah >> chris skudder the telegraph. someone who hates climate change, now in charge of an art gallery. something, something, something. just stop. oil on canvas. >> climate campaigner appointed national portrait gallery director. so this is victoria seidel. seidel. i don't know how to say it. she's the first woman to say it. she's the first woman to have held the position. and as far as i know, she's the first climate activist to have held the position as well. i wonder if they let her bring suit to work for lunch. lol she. so she's she's previously been involved in creating this climate change manifesto, that one of the things they're interested in, she does all the stuff you'd expect. she looks at carbon footprint, keeping the heating, ventilation and air conditioning to a minimum, all that stuff. but she's also interested. or their manifesto was in looking at where the sponsorship comes from. and, of course, the art needs to be paid for. and later on, it even says they looked at transport of the

people coming to see the art. and they suggest visitors driving to the galleries are a problem. this is not a good business model. >> it's weird, isn't it? it must be tough. she's like, she's a climate person running a gallery. she doesn't know whether to protect the paintings or destroy them. she must. does she toss a coin like two—face or that guy from no country for old men ? like, let's see what the men? like, let's see what the coin says. and then she, like, just destroys it. yeah, insanity. but it's not that much of a surprise that the people into art galleries and stuff are also the people into climate. right? so it's that same demographic basically middle aged women with some money, isn't it? >> are they going to find out shortly that actually being against sponsorship is a problem. it's problematic. >> well, this will be the first time when indirectly her wages get paid by sponsors. >> yeah. i wonder if it will change her politics. >> i feel bad for saying it's middle aged women when it's the activists. it's either art students or really old people, isn't it? >> yes. >> yes. >> just to get that in, i get a lot of tweets because one of those is your your target market. >> yeah. i want to upset one of

them. i won't say which one, nick, the telegraph, the church has been prevented from becoming a mosque. i mean, for now. >> yeah. i mean, you think that's a good thing? church of england stops grade two listed church being converted into mosques. this was a georgian church. the georgian church, in fact, of saint john's in hanley, and it was built in 1788. but there was a clause in there. it was a restrictive covenant placed on it, meaning that you can't make it into a mosque. they were going to have a multi—faith library, a women's only gym. i mean , i mean, they only gym. i mean, i mean, they were going to do the whole works, but they can't . and the works, but they can't. and the church may even take legal action if it's challenged . of action if it's challenged. of course, you shouldn't be able to turn church into a mosque. it's just so i mean, normally when you conquer a civilisation, you know, it's not that you don't like. we don't do it for you. we don't just, like, sign over the deed. it's very michelle welbeck in submission. if you read that book, i don't know what i can say here. that's not going to get me lots of i think i've already said it. but there's something very wrong about there's just something very wrong about converting churches into mosques. it just it just strikes me as well. i'm not going to go i'm not going to go over saudi arabia either and try

and make the mosque into churches. i think that's fair. >> so balanced. nick. thank you. i don't know, it's a case of use it or lose it, isn't it? churches aren't being used. and it says here that in between this and when it was a church, it's been a cafe and an antiques centre, which is great, but now it looks a bit of a state. all the windows are missing. it looks sad. it looks like it needs an episode of grand designs to come in and revamp it. >> i do like the fact it was it wasn't used as a church because they had concerns over its structural integrity. then it was used as a cafe because they don't care about those people. you might die having a coffee. oh, what's your shame? antiques centre. well, they ain't got long left anyway. you know, as someone who is not really religious, i do think i don't know if there is a god and which of those gods it would be, but either way, using the same building for two seems like you're going to upset them. whoever it is will be like get a new building or keep that building the way it is either, you know what i mean. >> yeah, it's a strange choice, isn't it, to want to retain a building like that because the costs of it, i mean, that's one of the problems with churches, right? not a 1970s church. that would be okay. but these old

pretty churches, really expensive to maintain. so it would make more sense to build a new one. >> just the final section to go then, and we have the mile high pub salad and wearing your wife's

welcome back to headliners cressida, the daily mail. is airport drinking a problem? if i was going to get on a boeing and hope that the doors stayed on, i'd need a softener. >> wetherspoons boss slams ryanair's ceo, calls for two dnnk ryanair's ceo, calls for two drink limits at airports and says passengers are actually getting drunk on flights rather than in terminal pubs. so the wetherspoons guy is saying, hey look, we stopped doing shooters years ago. apparently you can't get shooters and shots and stuff in airports. there's no drinks deals. it's all very sensible. and he says the bulk of their sales comes from food and soft dnnks sales comes from food and soft drinks anyway, in which case, why are you worrying about this, but yeah. so the ryanair guy has said that people shouldn't be able to have more than i think.

is it two drinks in an airport because people are misbehaving on flights? >> yes. wetherspoons versus ryanair. it's the fight we all wanted to see and it's what you would see in wetherspoons or ryanair would be fighting. yeah, and someone tag in b&m bargains and someone tag in b&m bargains and then that is right up my brands. yeah i've got that's actually all i had on this, >> apparently you can still fly is you can still get loads of booze on, on the flight. >> yes. they banned shooters at the airports, which is good. never want shooters at airports. is that call me old fashioned or it's from the 90s. >> i don't know , i don't know. >> i don't know, i don't know. >> i don't know, i don't know. >> well, the flip side would be to say, you know, if you're selling alcohol on a plane, bringing in a two drink limit before you get on the plane would, help you make a little bit more scratch. >> so cynical, so true. >> they should just let people bnng >> they should just let people bring their own drinks on. i think that's my position. that's quite radical liquids. yeah, it solves several problems at once. you get rid of that whole nonsense about the 100ml liquids. bring as much liquid as you want. get drunk. i think people would drink less if they could bring their own on. that's my. because they wouldn't have

to pack it all in at the airport, right? >> it just shows that you never go out. >> i don't, but i'm just. i'm just thinking out loud of how i would ruin airports and flights. >> why do they need to drink on a flight? why do you want to be in a pressurised container with drunk people who get violent? >> very good question. >> very good question. >> isn't that a comedy club? steve, you just described that . steve, you just described that. >> the air pressure without the air pressure. yeah. all right, fair enough. nick, the times sexual harassment at spain's la tomatina. you meant to grab a tomato, not a juicy pear. >> yeah, and this is a big, important story. how spain's tomato flinging festival stamps out sexual harassment. so for 76 years, tens of thousands of revellers have descended on the valencian town of bunol, which may well be the pronunciation. and. and in recent times , and. and in recent times, however, a rotten core has become apparent . core, steve. become apparent. core, steve. like a fruit tomato. >> yeah , tomatoes really have, >> yeah, tomatoes really have, cause i don't think of them in that sense , that sense, >> pull the fruit. >> pull the fruit. >> things to say. >> things to say. >> yeah. anyway so 22 000 people

spend an hour throwing 120 zero zero zero kilograms of overripe tomatoes and naturally, sexual harassment ensues. i don't i don't really quite get it, but, they say they mentioned asian countries quite racistly. they say people descend from all over the world in particular asian countries who wear swimming goggles . countries who wear swimming goggles. none of countries who wear swimming goggles . none of these sentences goggles. none of these sentences make sense together. it's like a william burroughs novel. i don't know what's happening. anything on this? cressida >> well, you've got to talk to the mobile purple points, which is i mean, would you have called it that? these are the grown ups in the room if you think you've been sexually assaulted, you should go and tell a mobile purple point. >> it's a really bad title because if someone's about to sexually harass you and you say, ineed sexually harass you and you say, i need to get my hands on a purple point, they might provide you with one, therefore making it worse. >> yeah, and they need him because of this. did you see this? there was, someone was this? there was, someone was this reporter was harassing her from the event as male participants repeatedly pinched her bottom. what's that got to do with tomato throwing? >> i assume it's just a crazy atmosphere and they don't . oh, i atmosphere and they don't. oh, i see, like notting hill makes it right. it's horrible carnival. >> but with tomatoes.

>> but with tomatoes. >> i just think the purple points was a mistake , points was a mistake, >> not the first time you said that cressida , the daily star. that cressida, the daily star. would you share a toothbrush with your partner? i wouldn't, i don't know where her mouth's been. >> one third of brit lovers share toothbrushes and socks in strange love rituals, study share toothbrushes and socks in strange love rituals, study claims. it's not that strange. claims. it's not that strange. they're making it sound more they're making it sound more exotic than it is, apparently exotic than it is, apparently people share stuff like people share stuff like toothbrushes. bit gross. but toothbrushes. bit gross. but also jewellery is a big one. and also jewellery is a big one. and shoes and underwear. do they shoes and underwear. do they mean straight people or gay mean straight people or gay couples? i mean, how do you. how couples? i mean, how do you. how do you borrow underwear that do you borrow underwear that doesn't fit your body? i don't doesn't fit your body? i don't know, tends to work only one way know, tends to work only one way around, isn't it? >> i think, you know, especially around, isn't it? >> i think, you know, especially when you start a new when you start a new relationship. if there's that relationship. if there's that moment where, like, your moment where, like, your girlfriend will wear a shirt or girlfriend will wear a shirt or your boxers. oh, isn't it cute? your boxers. oh, isn't it cute? you do it once the other way you do it once the other way round, and the next thing you round, and the next thing you know, you've ruined their family know, you've ruined their family christmas. christmas. >> yeah, the daily mail's >> yeah, the daily mail's calling you the wrong gender. calling you the wrong gender. yeah it's. this toothbrush thing. is not that weird, is it? yeah it's. this toothbrush thing. is not that weird, is it? in an emergency? i don't think in an emergency? i don't think that's that weird. this is that's that weird. this is weird, though . men are raiding weird, though . men are raiding weird, though. men are raiding weird, though. men are raiding their partner's jewellery box in their partner's jewellery box in record numbers , with nearly record numbers , with nearly record numbers, with nearly three quarters of blokes record numbers, with nearly three quarters of blokes

admitting to it wouldn't in admitting to it wouldn't happen in the north. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> well, when i read that, i thought , oh, >> well, when i read that, i thought, oh, that's very brick lane, east london hipster. but apparently then later it claims it's all the over 60s, which i mean, that doesn't seem. >> and they borrow rings. what kind of girly female fingers

know, >> where's ken? i don't know, i'm very sexist. to me, this is only for girls, but maybe i'm wrong. >> but if you're if you're young enough to be a barbie fan, get away from phones. or if you're old enough to have a phone, grow up and stop playing with barbie. >> but isn't barbie now? isn't it on? adults are banned because of the motion picture. >> maybe, but at the same time, if you're detoxing, just get well. there was a survey in here as well. the bit at the end that said like what people want their phones to have for their kids and it has messaging apps. well that's your problem. that's where the bullying happens. there's gps . by the time you got there's gps. by the time you got through it, you're like, oh, you want a smartphone? because that's all they want. a non—smartphone that does all the smartphone things . smartphone things. >> they want a smartphone where they just don't go out and commit crimes and become addicted to the internet, although that is impossible. and then you're back to the brick it is. i can see why they've ended up there. >> yeah, yeah, we don't put barbie on it. it makes absolutely no sense. >> true. yeah. put snake on it though. >> the. yeah, a snake too was the nokia 6210. that'll keep you busy. stop you getting in trouble wouldn't it? well, with that piece of timely advice, the show is nearly over. so let's take another look at thursday's

front pages. we start with the express and farage. not a word from our pm on the boats crisis. the times goes with mass release of inmates, rolls the dice on crime and downing street. tensions grow over sue grey's pick for pm's top aide. the guardian says tories woefully underestimated the cost of asylum claimed think tank the sun. no cigarettes and alcohol ban on smoking in pub gardens. and finally the daily star. you can't park there mate. this is the miracle escape as a glider crash lands on a busy road and those were your front pages. that's all we've got time for. thank you to my guests nick and cressida. back tomorrow at 11 with some other people doing it. if you're watching at five, stay tuned for breakfast and until the next one, have a good one. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather

update brought to you from the met office. thursday will be a breezy and showery day for northwestern areas elsewhere. though dry and feeling fairly warm in the sun. but it is going to be a fresher day tomorrow compared to today as as this weather front is expected to clear away to the south and east throughout tonight, taking with it some rain which will affect northeastern areas of england, some eastern areas of scotland through this evening. still a few showers across the north and west , but for few showers across the north and west, but for many of us it will turn much drier and clearer overnight tonight. so that does mean it's going to be a fresher night. temperatures will fall away into single figures. rural towns and cities just about in double digits. so fresher but bright start to the day for many areas. however, across the north and west there will still be some quite frequent and potentially quite heavy showers . potentially quite heavy showers. across many southern areas, we could see a few patches of mist and fog developing, particularly across western counties of england. a few showers pushing into parts of wales potentially, as well as northwestern england and northern ireland. but i think the most frequent and heaviest showers will affect the

western isles, the highlands through thursday morning. the likely linger through much of the day , a drier start across the day, a drier start across eastern areas of scotland. those showers will progress eastwards to affect these areas later on on thursday, as well as some eastern areas of northern england too. but elsewhere, as i said, it should be a relatively dry and fine day and it will feel fairly warm in the sunshine. as i said, it is a fresher day tomorrow compared to today. we'll lose that humid feel so temperatures just about 23 or 24 degrees at best in the south and east, widely in the high teens or low 20s. however, that's about average for the time of year. now, friday, we've got high pressure centred across the uk, so more widely settled day, plenty of sunshine through the day, away from the very far north of scotland, and it will feel fairly warm in the sunshine, but it could be another fairly fresh start and that theme continues into the weekend. however, as we head towards sunday, a risk of showers does develop across the south and east. see you again later. bye bye. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on

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