>> well . >> well. >> well. >> morning 930 on wednesday the 11th of september. live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> good morning to you. so left out in the cold. the tory motion to annul the government's cuts to annul the government's cuts to winter fuel payments was defeated yesterday, with 52 labour abstentions and one rebel, and the first us presidential debate last night saw donald trump and kamala harris in their face off ahead of the election in november. >> did you watch it.7 >> did you watch it.7 >> uk economists flatlined for the second month running. gdp figures have recorded no growth. will labour take responsibility or will they blame their predecessors and a rescue package for tata steel? >> the government is working to finalise a 500 million plan for the port talbot plant in wales

after the closure of its blast furnaces on environmental grounds and missile into russia . grounds and missile into russia. >> britain's sources say that the american position on long—range missiles is shifting, and they could allow ukraine to use them within weeks and back. >> british farming day quite right. today's the day to support british food and farming. but what will this mean? under labour's first budget, many farmers fear they may not survive planned changes to inheritance taxes. >> and of course it's wednesday, so time for pmqs as starmer will take on sunak in the commons. we're going to be talking to christopher hope and gloria de piero ahead of gb news pmqs show at 12. and hot off the press literally finished cutting it few seconds ago, which is why it wasn't in our menu. christopher hope has sat down with rachel reeves this morning, and we're going to hear

what she had to say right at the top of the show. >> absolutely, because she is on the defensive big time over the taking away of the winter fuel allowance for 10 million pensioners and on a lot of other grounds, too. >> yeah, we've got a lot to talk about this morning. we want to hear from you as well. gbnews.com/yoursay first though, for the very latest news with sam francis. >> very good morning to you from the gb newsroom. it's just after 9:30 and we'll start in the us where donald trump and kamala harris have clashed on crime, immigration, abortion and the economy in their first and possibly only presidential debate. the showdown began with a handshake, but quickly took a turn when harris mocked trump's rallies, accusing him of boring his supporters. trump, though, hit back, defending his popularity and attacked harris on her immigration stance and economic policies . economic policies. >> she's going to do this. she's going to do that. she's going to do all these wonderful things.

why hasn't she done it? she's been there for three and a half years . they've had three and a years. they've had three and a half years to fix the border. they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> well, harris blamed trump for nationwide abortion restrictions and the capitol riot while questioning his fitness for office. >> donald trump left us the worst unemployment since the great depression. donald trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century, donald trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war here. >> no fault evictions could soon be history. as the government prepares to ban section 21 evictions, the renters rights bill, set to be introduced today, promises sweeping changes today, promises sweeping changes to protect england's 11 million renters. it will also force

private landlords to take faster action on unsafe housing conditions. the deputy prime minister, angela rayner, says the bill will overhaul renting and tackle what she's called unfair practices . but landlords unfair practices. but landlords are warning the reforms must be fair to both sides. labour is facing mounting pressure from within its own ranks this morning to reverse cuts to the winter fuel payment , after 50 of winter fuel payment, after 50 of its mps abstained or were absent from yesterday's vote in the commons. the policy, which will see 10 million pensioners lose the payment , has sparked the payment, has sparked backlash, with some mps in the labour party warning they'll keep pushing for a u—turn . keep pushing for a u—turn. charities and opposition parties say that the cut could leave older people choosing between heating and eating. this winter. a mother who missed her son's court appearance to holiday in ibiza will face a judge today. her 12 year old son, one of the youngest involved in last month's riots, admitted violent disorder in manchester. he was in court for attacking a bus and

vandalising a vape shop. crimes that were tied to unrest after a stabbing spree in southport . the stabbing spree in southport. the judge has described the mother's absence as astonishing and has summoned her to explain her actions. the government is set to unveil a multi—million pound package to support tata steel's transition to greener production at its port talbot plant. business secretary jonathan reynolds will outline the details of that deal later. it's after the previous government, a conservative government, that is had pledged £500 million towards the project. it comes as up to 2800 jobs are expected to be cut as the company closes its last blast furnace. unions are warning job losses will hit the welsh economy and the local communities . and finally, communities. and finally, british farmers are calling on the government to raise the agricultural budget to £56 billion a year to boost food security. as october's budget is looming, farmers say they're facing record inflation, low

confidence and severe weather conditions . with acres of conditions. with acres of farmland now left under water. labour has blamed the previous conservative government for underfunding and is promising to restore stability in the farming sector . those are the latest sector. those are the latest headlines. a full roundup in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good morning. welcome. this is britain's newsroom live across the uk on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well just moments ago the chancellor rachel reeves. she is the politician of the hour isn't she. sat down with our very own gb news political editor chris hope to talk about many things. let's have a listen. >> rachel reeves will come to the economy in a minute, but just about the vote yesterday in

the house of commons on the winter fuel allowance. the fact is that 348 labour mps voted to make pensions colder this this winter. is labour now the nasty party? >> well, this government faced a £22 billion black hole in the pubuc £22 billion black hole in the public finances. but we were determined to protect the poorest pensioners, which is why pension credit and the winter fuel payment will continue to be paid to those pensioners who most need the support. but in addition to that, we committed to the triple lock in our manifesto not just for one year but for the duration of this parliament. and the triple lock means that this winter the new state pension is worth £900 more than it was a year ago. and indeed, next april it's likely to go up by a further £460. so despite these difficult decisions that we must take to get our public finances on a firmer footing after the £22 billion black hole left by the conservatives, we are continuing to increase the incomes of

pensioners and we are protecting the most vulnerable with pension credit and the winter fuel payments. but there are warnings , payments. but there are warnings, serious warnings for pensioners this winter who might freeze to death. >> you've got jon trickett saying it could be a matter of life and death. richard burgon saying these cuts will result in deaths of pensioners. is that the trade off you're making economic growth for risking people's lives. >> pensioners will have more money in their pockets this winter than they did last winter. the new state pension is worth £900 more than it was a year ago, and indeed average energy bills are £117 lower this winter than they were last winter. so we've looked at all the evidence. we're confident that pensioner incomes will continue to increase even after these changes . but when we face these changes. but when we face a situation where the previous government were overspending by £22 billion, not some year in the future, but this financial yean the future, but this financial year, we had to take action to bnng year, we had to take action to bring stability back to the economy because by bringing

stability back to the economy, we can bring growth back to britain, which means that we can improve living standards , reduce improve living standards, reduce poverty and have the money to fund our public services, including our national health service. >> if i can ask you about your expenses as an mp for £4,000, claimed to heat your second home, how can you feel the pain that others are feeling now from the withdrawal of this benefit? >> i recognise that i earn more than average families in britain, but i'm also determined in this position to protect the most vulnerable , which is why most vulnerable, which is why the winter fuel payment will continue to be paid to pensioners on pension credit and indeed, unlike the previous government, we are working to ensure that everybody that's entitled to pension credit gets it and already we've seen a 115% increase in the number of people applying for pension credit. thatis applying for pension credit. that is good news and reflects the campaigns that we've been running to ensure that the poorest pensioners get all the support that they're entitled to. >> but your heating bill is being picked up by the taxpayer

in your second home. how is that fair to pensioners really worried this winter about it being too cold. >> well, being a constituency mp means that you have to have a house in london as well as of course, living in the constituency. and that's the same for all mps. constituency. and that's the same for all mps . those are long same for all mps. those are long standing, rules. i am determined to ensure that the poorest pensioners are protected and will still get winter fuel payments, and indeed, to ensure that pensioner incomes continue to increase with the triple lock. >> 800,000 pensioners haven't signed up for the pension credit yet. if they all sign up, well, it won't it wipe out the saving of the £15 billion you're saving by axing the fuel fuel allowance in the first place? >> i would prefer the poorest pensioners to get the support that they're entitled to, rather than even if that happens , i than even if that happens, i would rather pay money to the poorest pensioners than than to continue with a universal winter fuel payment, which meant that some people who didn't need the money were getting it, and

weren't using it to pay their energy bills. now, many people in that situation were already giving that to money charity, whether it's to food banks or to other good causes, because they recognised that they really shouldn't. when the public finances are in the state they're in and when for some people they are living day to day and relying on food banks , day and relying on food banks, that it can't be justified, that you continue to pay winter fuel payment to people regardless of what their incomes are. >> the economy is flatlining. and you talked about difficult decisions coming up. what will they be? will you cut back on bus passes ? is the difficult bus passes? is the difficult economic picture mean that the october 30th budget will be worse than we expect? >> we've committed to those bus passes, to free tv licences for those entitled and free prescriptions. but we've also can and committed to the triple lock, not just for one year, but for the duration of this parliament. and that means that pensions will continue to rise by whichever is higher. 2.5% inflation or average earnings.

and that means that pensioners have £900 more this winter and likely another £460 from next april. just very finally, on the prisons release yesterday, how do you feel watching prisoners cracking open champagne being released on labour's watch? >> it's sickening. it makes me really angry. >> it makes me really angry. the inheritance that the previous government left, whether it's the £22 billion black hole in the £22 billion black hole in the public finances or failing to build the prison places that are necessary to keep criminals locked up. we will make sure that those prison places are available, but we've had to make the tough decisions to clear up the tough decisions to clear up the awful mess that the previous government left for its successoi’s. >> successors. >> when will it get better for our viewers? when are they going to start feeling positive about the future? because it's all such grim news at the moment. >> well, today i'm making an announcement of an £8 billion investment in britain in data centres to power the digital economy of the future. and i'm here at a university technical college today, are training up young people to work in those industries. i know that if we

can bring stability back to the economy, if we partner with business, then we can turn around our economy and make britain better off. and that is what i am absolutely determined to do next year. we are making the decisions now to turn around our economy and £8 billion investment today in the jobs and industries of the future, to make working people better off. rachel reeves, thank you for joining us today on gb news. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. that >> thank you. that was >> thank you. that was chris hope talking to the chancellor rachel reeves. >> only this morning just about an hour or so ago. she's very robotic isn't she? >> she's sticking to the script. >> she's sticking to the script. >> there's very little emotion. it's all about. she's talking about 20, £22 billion black hole, trotting out the lines about the triple lock on the pension. i mean, come on. i wanted to just go take a breath. >> she's also. and be real. >> she's also. and be real. >> you've got to be careful how these things sound. i appreciate i am more more than most pensioners. hang on, chancellor, you earn £160,000 a year and your husband is an incredibly senior civil servant. he's probably on 120, £130,000 a yeah probably on 120, £130,000 a year. well, add that up . yeah.

year. well, add that up. yeah. and that's that's 300,000 between them. they are rich , between them. they are rich, they are rich and they are talking about pensioners who are on 11, 12, £13,000 who are going to be denied £300 a year. and she can witter on about the pension credit. 243 questions to answer, which will be too much for some pensioners. some pensioners won't go online and some pensioners will too be proud to claim it. >> well, this is the thing when chris said then about the fact that there are 800,000 people who could claim that pension credit, who haven't done so far, he makes a really good point that if they all do sign up, guess what? they're going to remove any of the benefit that you might get from the tax coffers because you're paying that. so what's the point? and also the fact that she's so proud of this labour government are so proud of the fact that there's been 115% increase in people who are claiming pension credit. well done. more people claiming benefits , more elderly claiming benefits, more elderly people who obviously before now didn't feel that they needed to claim that benefit. and the

pride as well of that generation of not claiming money off the state. some of them will have never claimed a penny off the state in their life. >> i spoke to the head of the general secretary of the national pensioners convention yesterday. i interviewed her for gb news went out yesterday afternoon. lifelong labour voter said quote unquote. i'm in shock that this is a labour government is doing this in shock. yeah. >> well let us know your thoughts this morning. get involved in our conversation. gbnews.com/yoursay. >> so up next who won trump versus kamala harris? they took to the stage last night for the first time. not only they debated with each other the first time they'd even met. >> we'll tell you what we think in just a

>> 948 britain's newsroom, or gb news, with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so overnight in the us, donald trump and kamala harris went head to head in their first

presidential debate. >> so have a look at some of the best moments. >> she has no policy. everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window . she's going to my the window. she's going to my philosophy now. in fact, i was going to send her a maga hat. she's gone to my philosophy, but if she ever got elected, she'd change it. and it will be the end of our country. >> i actually have the endorsement of 200 republicans who have formerly worked with president bush, mitt romney , and president bush, mitt romney, and john mccain, his former chief of staff of four star general has said he has contempt for the constitution of the united states. >> this is the one that weaponized, not me. she weaponized, not me. she weaponized . i probably took a weaponized. i probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me. they talk about democracy. i'm a threat to democracy . i'm a threat to democracy. >> these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again, because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favours in

springfield, they're eating the dogs. >> the people that came in, they're eating the cats. they're eating. they're eating the pets of the people that live there . of the people that live there. >> oh, dear. >> oh, dear. >> i mean, that's the bit that's probably going to endure most that he accuses migrants of eating people's pet cats and dogs. >> we've got plenty presentation coach graham davis with us. >> i think it's a little lost in. >> i've known graham for so long, but i mean graham, that will be the carrier. but what was the. you saw it from beginning to end. you watched it live unlike bev and i. and she won , didn't she? won, didn't she? >> harris. oh, she did, but the biggest loser last night was the chairman of the ohio tourist board. because now the word's out that there is a huge epidemic of immigrants eating everyone's domestic pets. i don't think they can expect many visitors. >> gosh, although i have to say in his defence, of course this is what was going to happen. there are social media posts this morning and the posts that he obviously saw beforehand of

the police arriving at a house where an immigrant has eaten a cat. the accusation being that the adjudicators were fact checking donald trump throughout it and telling him he was wrong. they weren't fact checking. kamala harris in the same way. and also, just to be clear, one arrest of a woman eating a cat does not mean that there are thousands of immigrants eating pets . pets. >> indeed. well, of course , >> indeed. well, of course, trump sometimes has a fairly loose relationship with the exact truth, and clearly he likes being stoked up by a media post and exaggerating it. and yes, there did seem to be a tendency for the fact checkers mainly to be checking donald trump. but again, in fairness, he's got more previous convictions for possibly distorting the truth than perhaps i would defend him on that. >> i think she's full of nonsense. i mean, what i think she did really well on the debate last night, though, graham is. she laughed at him .

graham is. she laughed at him. and what a what a thin skinned man like donald trump does not like is a woman laughing at him. and that was very powerful. it undermined him, didn't it? >> well, it did, except that occasionally kamala slightly overdid it. one of the things that i suspect that her team were coaching her not to do was not to gurn too much, to not laugh too much, not to giggle, not to do the strange twitches. yes, she managed to ridicule him. but that's a card. you mustn't play too hard. it was a remarkable change from a left jab to a thermonuclear assault, which she did when she decided to make fun of the size of his rallies and his rallies in general. they knew that that was going to be going in to the debate on that. >> i do that because why would you write a debate on that? i had more than martin luther king. i had more than jfk. it's masochism of the worst sort. >> of course , his handlers would >> of course, his handlers would have been giving him advice for the last 2 or 3 weeks, which is

to be fair, for the first 10 or 15 minutes, he just about abided by, which would be something like, just stick to answering the question. stick to policy. don't look at her, don't look at her. and he managed to do that. but her assault the doggie and doggie massacre certainly got under his skin as they calculated it would. >> what was interesting, when they first walked onto the stage was they obviously they've never met before . she took the met before. she took the initiative and she walked towards him onto his side, and she put her hand out and shook his hand. and i thought that was a class act because he wasn't going to, was he? he was happy to just stand at the lectern and maybe wave a little. >> well, it could be interpreted as nice classiness, but also it was deliciously calculatedly combative as well, because she could be seen in front of tens of millions of people deliberately invading donald trump's space, and that made her feel good as as taking the initiative right from the start,

tight on time. >> it's in her interest for there to be no more debates, because if she did win that, why would you risk losing the next one? >> it was a clear and palpable, palpable win. and i don't think she could get as good a result. the next time she delivered her pre—prepared lines. almost as though she believed in them. and she did it well . but people will she did it well. but people will see through it the second time. >> okay, graham, to great see you. graham davis there. still to come, the latest gdp figures, gdp figures announced what can be done to resuscitate the british economy. don't go anywhere. this is britain's newsroom on gb news . newsroom on gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update. a cold wind for many of us through today. blustery showers across north western areas and a chance of frost overnight

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gb news. >> 10 am. on wednesday the 11th of september live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner left out in the cold. >> the tory motion to annul the government's cut to winter fuel payments was defeated yesterday, with 52 labour abstentions and one rebel. >> the first us presidential debate last night saw donald trump and kamala harris in their first face off, ahead of the election in november, and the uk economy has flatlined for the second month running gdp figures recording no growth and labour going to take responsibility. >> or will they blame the tories and tata steel rescue package? >> the government is working to finalise a £500 million plan for the port talbot plant after the closure of its blast furnaces missile into russia . missile into russia. >> british sources say the american position on long—range missiles is shifting, and they could allow ukraine to use them within weeks. that'll be british

missiles too. >> are ridiculous, honestly. and back british farming day. today is the annual day to support british food and farming. but what will this mean under labour's first budget, as many farmers fear they might not survive changes to inheritance tax? >> and of course it's wednesday, so time for pmqs. starmer will take on sunak in the commons. we'll be chatting to christopher hooton gloria de piero ahead of those pmqs at 12. and of course, that gb news interview rachel reeves interview rachel reeves interview by chris hope standing by, standing, sticking to her guns. by, standing, sticking to her guns . the by, standing, sticking to her guns. the winter by, standing, sticking to her guns . the winter fuel allowance guns. the winter fuel allowance no compromise , no reforms, no no compromise, no reforms, no tapering of the benefits . and of tapering of the benefits. and of course, we now know that she claimed £4,000 in fuel allowances for her second home in london. very nice . in london. very nice. >> she also didn't confirm whether she did say you know, we

that chris asked about bus passes and tv licence supplementation. i think it was tv licence and basically how else they might hit the elderly. and she was a little bit mealy mouthed on it. she wasn't particularly committal about the fact they're going to keep those things in place. let us know your thoughts this morning, gbnews.com/yoursay. first though, the very latest news with sam francis . with sam francis. >> bev and andrew, thank you very much indeed. 10:02 and the top story this morning. we'll start with the breaking line coming to us from ukraine. david lammy and antony blinken have just arrived in the country, calling it a critical moment in the war with russia. the foreign secretary and the us secretary of state are set to meet with president volodymyr zelenskyy and discuss kiev's needs in its fight against moscow. well, their joint visit follows reports that joe biden is expected to lift a ban on british storm shadow missiles being used on russian territory.

that's after iran was confirmed to have supplied ballistic missiles to russia . and just the missiles to russia. and just the latest line as well , missiles to russia. and just the latest line as well, coming to us from the reuters news agency, we're hearing that the uk has in the last few minutes, in fact , the last few minutes, in fact, sanctioned ten vessels operating as part of putin's so—called shadow fleet in the latest international crackdown on russia. david lammy says that that move blocks russia's ability to trade in oil and sends a clear message to moscow. the fleet is accused of using illicit methods to keep russian oil flowing despite global sanctions. so that latest line just into us that the uk has sanctioned ten vessels operating as part of russia's so—called shadow fleet. turning to the us now, and donald trump and kamala harris have clashed on crime, immigration, abortion and the economy in their first and possibly only presidential debate. the showdown began last night with a handshake, but quickly took a turn when harris

mocked rallies that trump held, accusing him of boring his crowds. trump, though, hit back, defending his popularity and attacking harris on her immigration stance and economic policies. >> she's going to do this. she's going to do that. she's going to do all these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? she's been there for three and a half years. they've had three and a half years to fix the border. they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> well, later in the night, harris blamed trump for nationwide abortion restrictions and the capitol riot while questioning his fitness for office. >> donald trump left us the worst unemployment since the great depression. donald trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. donald trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war .

war. >> here, no fault evictions could soon be history. as the uk government prepares to ban section 21 evictions, the renters rights bill, set to be introduced today, is promising sweeping changes to protect england's 11 million renters. it will also force private landlords to take faster action on unsafe housing conditions and ends blanket bans on tenants who receive benefits or have children . the deputy prime children. the deputy prime minister, angela rayner, says the bill will overhaul renting and tackle what she calls unfair practices. but landlords are warning the reforms must be fair to both sides . labour is to both sides. labour is mounting mounting pressure from within its own ranks this morning to reverse cuts on the winter fuel payment after 56 mps abstained or were absent from yesterday's commons vote. the policy, which will see 10 million pensioners lose that payment, has sparked backlash, with some labour mps warning they will keep pushing for a u—turn. charities and opposition parties say the cut could leave older people choosing between

heating and eating this winter well, despite the opposition, the government insists the cuts are necessary to fix a £22 billion financial shortfall . a billion financial shortfall. a mother who missed her son's court appearance to holiday in ibiza will face a judge today. her 12 year old son, one of the youngest involved in last month's riots, admitted violent disorder in manchester. he was in court for attacking a bus and for vandalising a vape shop . for vandalising a vape shop. crimes tied to unrest after a stabbing spree in southport. judge joanna hurst, who described the mother's absence as astonishing, has summoned to her explain her actions . the her explain her actions. the government is set to unveil a multi—million pound package to support tata steel's transition to greener production at its port talbot plant. up to 2800 jobs are expected to be cut as the company closes its last blast furnace. business secretary jonathan reynolds will outline the details of the deal later , after the previous later, after the previous conservative government had

already pledged £500 million towards that project . it comes towards that project. it comes as unions are warning the job losses will hit the welsh economy and local community. british farmers are calling on the government to raise agricultural budgets to £56 billion a year, to boost food security. the national farmers union is urging ministers to increase funding, saying it's crucial for sustainable food production and for tackling climate challenges. well, as october's budget looms, farmers say they're facing record inflation, low confidence and severe weather conditions. with acres of farmland now left under water. labour has blamed the previous conservative government for underfunding and is promising to restore stability in the farming sector. and finally, heathrow airport set a new monthly record in august, with nearly 8 million passengers passing through its terminals. the transport hub also saw its busiest day on record, serving 269,000 people on the 18th of

august. heathrow is now on track to welcome some 30 million passengers this summer. that's the highest ever for that period. and manchester and stansted airports have also hit record numbers , contributing to record numbers, contributing to a record breaking season . those a record breaking season. those are the latest headlines for now. your next update in half an hour. houn >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good morning. welcome back to britain's newsroom live across the uk on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> so the tory motion to annul the government's cuts to winter fuel was defeated, with 52 labour abstentions and one rebel. >> and we've got a book you can see we're reading books. that's our guest coming up in a minute. but we just want to talk first of all about this yesterday.

these am i have to say, andrew, i'm so irritated by these mps that abstained because it just shows a complete lack of backbone, doesn't it? or do they have no choice? no, of course they can. >> they can vote against. they may. they may get the whip was taken off them, which means they'd be suspended from the parliamentary party for six months. if it's an issue they really care about, they could have voted against it. one did yesterday. he's a corbynite. admittedly but he's my new hero. >> john. john taoiseach is it john? >> yeah, but but but it's when the official labour minister is doing the ministerial and says, oh, but about 10 or 11 had official reasons to be absent from parliament. it's a lie. that's what it is. it's a lie. they they were given created excuses to be absent from the scene. >> i was at the dentist. >> i was at the dentist. >> yeah. they're dentists. a lot of them. a lot of them had dental appointments. >> if there are 50 of them that felt strongly enough that this wasn't the right thing to vote on, that they abstained. if those 50 had all voted against it, he's not going to take the whip away from 50 of them, is he? of course not. so why they

all i hate this sort of for me. for me. >> and i was at the tuc conference yesterday. i didn't find a trade union official with nothing other than contempt for it, which is why he had such a lukewarm reception. now, official figures this morning show that the economy recorded no growth in july for the second month running. >> that's despite hopes that things might have been picking up. it doesn't appear to be the case. >> first figures since the labour government came to office. obviously they're blaming their predecessors. well, is there a different way of doing things? we're going to talk now to lord moynihan, john moynihan, who has written a very weighty tome. >> it's his a weighty tome , >> it's his a weighty tome, return to growth how to fix the economy. >> first of all, john, we can call you by your first name, you're not an economist, but you've been an incredibly successful businessman and some say you're a billionaire. i don't know if that's true or not, but i can, i can i can rebut that point. >> okay . would that i were but >> okay. would that i were but but but what your point is successive governments of every political stripe have got it wrong. >> productivity in this country

is hopeless. growth has been hopeless. >> correct. i think one of the interesting points about today's figures is when you dive down into them and you see what it is thatis into them and you see what it is that is causing the lack of growth, you can the majority of what we do in this country is services, so—called. but you've also got manufacturing goods and in fact services increased , the in fact services increased, the gdp of services increased , but gdp of services increased, but the gdp of goods went down. we're destroying our manufacturing base. and that's mostly due to the absurd regulations that we pile up and pile up. it's also due to the very high energy cost that causes businesses to get out of the uk and go off to places like china , where they create china, where they create electricity out of coal fired generation stations . so that generation stations. so that creates a lot of carbon in the air. so our green laws that are designed to get less carbon in the air drive businesses out of this country, over to china ,

this country, over to china, where they put carbon in the air. so that was brilliant. but also it is destroying our manufacturing base. >> well, we're seeing today the government are talking about tata steel imports, all but potentially a £500 million bailout because they've changed these as they used on environmental grounds. yes. this is another example isn't it. >> yes, yes. you can go on giving subsidies to this or that bit of the economy, but you can't subsidise the whole economy. you can only have a good economy by doing the right things in the first place. and you can bang a bit, you know, 500 million whatever to this or that company, but you can't bang that company, but you can't bang that to all companies. so bit by bit, our manufacturing base is shrinking very rapidly. our services, which are harder to regulate and therefore can get on with it without government interference. they're doing a little bit better. and that economy is growing. but there's another angle that they don't think about. if you look at the private sector, gnp versus the pubuc

private sector, gnp versus the public sector gnp, now , or the public sector gnp, now, or the whole gnp is both of them added together, they're growing government month after month, year after year. so the gnp sort of stays stable while the private sector gnp. the thing that actually creates wealth and creates the money to provide all these services that we're talking about, that's going down. well, the public sector, gnp, the size of government is going up and up. so you've got size of government, massive regulation, too much tax. everybody's leaving the country and the small state, which we used to be part of the tory party philosophy has gone by the board because it seems to have. >> yes, the public sector has expanded dramatically. >> it has. and i think that's because from what you can see, it's not the political parties that decide the laws or the way the economy goes is actually the pubuc the economy goes is actually the public sector. and the civil service who are running things. so sitting in the lords, i see

the same laws being pushed through by labour that were being pushed through by rishi sunak's government, the identical law and, and the way i've discovered that it works is that you've got a minister who's saying, oh, i've got a new department. this is very exciting. what am i going to do? well, minister, we've got just the law for you and you can put your name to it. you know, we're going to ban smoking in, in anywhere, and you'll be known as the person minister who bans smoking forever. and you'll be famous throughout the generations. oh, that's good. i'll do that. you know, my lord. well, they give that to a conservative. they push it through the rishi sunak idiotically holds a general election, and now you've got a labour lot and new labour. well, what am i going to do? oh ban smoking, minister. you'll have your name on it. oh yes will i? and law after law we're seeing same law being run by civil servants. not really by the government. >> what people watching this at home, john? all they know at the moment is that life is expensive. correct. inflation is

pushing prices up. i think it's been price gouging hugely as well. have taken advantage of people's perceptions. maybe that things were going to be expensive. so guess what. everything's a couple of £0.50 more or a pound more here. and there. when can people at home, when might we see a change to how expensive life feels and how affordable everything is? >> well, this book is called return to growth. and so but all the political parties said, oh, we're the party for growth. keir starmer said, i'm going to focus laser like on growth, going forward. inflation. everybody says , oh, we're going to solve says, oh, we're going to solve inflation. none of the parties have come up with a definition of what creates economic growth. none of the parties came up with an understanding of what causes inflation. very difficult for the conservatives to do that because the inflation happened under their watch . and the under their watch. and the reason you have inflation is

because you put too much money into the economy. it's been shown over and over again. that's what caused inflation too much money in the economy. why do we have too much money in the economy? furlough? yeah, i was very pro furlough for 2 or 3 months. we were all scared. we didn't know what was happening. people stayed at home. they needed to be supported. the economy needed to get up. within 2 or 3 months. we knew that covid really wasn't as bad as we thought, and we could have all said, right, fine, let's do what sweden is doing. let's go back to work . we didn't. we kept to work. we didn't. we kept furlough on for 18 months. it put tens of billions of pounds into the economy, which inevitably 18 months later led to inflation. >> did they not know that was going to happen because it was obvious to the layperson like me that that was going to happen. how did they not see that? >> well, there's a long history of what's called monetarism in, in the, in the study of economics and it's got a chequered history. they people had said there'd be inflation

back in 2013, but in fact, they'd done other things to keep they'd done other things to keep the money supply down back then, which they didn't do this time. so the people who said there'll be inflation back in 2013 were sort of a bit quiet. i was a bit quiet. is this all a ponzi scheme? >> is it all just going to collapse at some point this? >> oh yeah. it just gets worse and worse. you can't you're on a, you're on a hiding to nothing. if you're growing the state, growing the state, shrinking the part of the state that actually creates wealth, creates jobs , creates the money creates jobs, creates the money for taxes to pay for all these services. if you're doing that, it ends. and that's what this is about. it says we've got to return to a smaller state. you've got to cut taxes because, like it or not, you may hate all these billionaires, of which i'm not one by any means , you may not one by any means, you may hate them all, but they're all leaving. yeah. i mean, my hairdresser, just an ordinary chap says i've got four customers. he's a west end hairdresser, so he he, you know, has good customer base. two of

them are billionaires, two of them are billionaires, two of them century millionaires. they've all left the country in the last three months. and i know personally lots of people leaving this country. >> and how does that help greg? because that's exactly. >> and they're not just rich people. they're young people with aspiration, the really smart people, the high flyers, they're all saying, forget about this, i'm off. i'm going to go to australia, i'm going to go to dubaior to australia, i'm going to go to dubai or america or whatever. >> well, john, i think our viewers will love this book and i think they probably love what you've said today. >> also, you can do a great quiz about all the very interesting illustrations on the front, because there's a particularly unflattering picture of chris patten and quite right, it's unflattering. he was allegedly a tory. he was allegedly a tory party chairman, and he was also a terrible chairman of the bbc. >> it's returned to growth. how to fix the economy by lord john moynihan. it's very big. i'm going to read it. john. thank you. >> i'm halfway through it. >> i'm halfway through it. >> right up next we're going to be going through the papers with the panel, stephen pound and mike parry. what do you make of taylor backing kamala harris with britain's

gb news? >> i'm christopher hope and i'm gloria de piero bringing you pmqs live here on gb news. >> whenever parliament is in session on a wednesday at midday, we'll bring you live coverage of prime minister's questions. we'll be asking our viewers and listeners to submit the questions that they would like to put to the prime minister, and we'll put that to our panel of top politicians in our panel of top politicians in our westminster studio . our westminster studio. >> that's pmqs live here on gb news britain's news channel . news britain's news channel. >> good morning. 1022. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. you're on the tele. andrew pierce, with andrew and me. bev turner stephen pound. the two mr p's are here. pound and perry are in the studio with us. can we talk about the american debate? you watched it live. >> you got up to watch? yeah, i did, yeah, i did, because i thought, you know, if you want to really absorb sometimes the clips don't show you what the

best bits are all about. you know, the nuances, the body language and all that kind of stuff. and i have to say, the longer it went on, the more i was starting to worry that kamala harris might be the next president of the united states of america because she grew into it. and also, you know, in this age of doom, when we've got keir starmer going around telling us everything is terrible, you know, we're all doomed to a terrible future. she is the one world politician who seems to have a bit of confidence about the future, even if we don't really know what it is. but she smiled and she laughed. and on the old they eat cats and dogs in ohio , right? the way she in ohio, right? the way she dismissed it with just a shake of the head and a laugh and a kind of is this guy bonkers? i thought that did trump in. yeah. >> and it also shows, doesn't it? stephen? what a good selection she was because she is like kryptonite to donald trump. she brings out the worst in him. he loses all of his discipline against biden. he could do quite well. yeah. >> well of course the great thing about kamala harris is

she's a woman and he simply can't cope with it. a lot of us are actually quite dubious about whether she'd make a good candidate. yeah, i think as mike says, she's actually grown into it. but if you have a look. i mean, it's interesting when you talk about the totality of it, you know, everybody thinks, well, people of my age and i think i'm probably the oldest person, certainly in this room, if not in london. >> we were certainly the oldest person in this room by quite a long time. >> absolutely. sorry. can we stop being so ageist? you anyway raised it. but you remember the, you know, the kennedy nixon one. where? kennedy. i don't remember it. well, no. okay, well, i was i was around in 59. >> yeah, i saw that the, the perspiring lip and of course, lloyd bentsen and dan quayle won it on the radio. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> nixon, but on tv. that's right. yeah he looked sweaty. yeah. >> and then dan, dan quayle tried to talk about, you know, jfk. and he said, i knew jack kennedy, you know, and you are no jack kennedy. that's right. yeah. but look, i think what's fascinating about this is kamala harris has been locked away in a hotel room for about three days, and she's actually set up a stage. she actually built a stage. she actually built a stage. that's right. to replicate the one that somebody i don't know who they're playing

donald trump an actor. yeah, i know with a with an ian mckellen fatsuit or an orange wig. oh, no. yeah, yeah, an orange wig. orange wig. it's krusty the clown. yeah, but but the interesting thing is, donald trump decided , no, i'm just trump decided, no, i'm just going to go back to mar—a—lago mar—a—lago. and i'm going to, you know, he's not going to prepare for it because he absolutely thought that he could ace it. and i think pride certainly comes before a fall. >> mike, you were watching. >> mike, you were watching. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> from what i understand, the first 15 minutes he was okay. he was on message. yeah, he was disciplined, but she got under it the moment she started to get under his skin, he lost it. >> she was like a heavyweight boxer for the first 15 minutes, waiting to see what sort of mood he was in, where he was going to attack and all that. and when she realised he's not the campaigner he was four years ago and he's clearly not, he's clearly not able to do it as he could. she then came into her own and just getting back to the cats and dogs, it's so ridiculous. it could be proved that what he said is true , but that what he said is true, but it's one isolated incident. how many? how many times have you

read a scare story in this country? immigrants have started to eat the queen's swans right ? to eat the queen's swans right? you know, somebody found somebody kidnapping a swan. it's one isolated incident, and he tries to make an issue of it, which is unreal. >> but what he should have done was make an issue of her woeful failure to deal with illegal migration of course, pouring across the mexican border, biden put her in charge of it to finish her off. and she never visited. >> and she never visited. >> and she never visited. >> she didn't do her job. >> she didn't do herjob. instead, he gets sidetracked by some nonsense about a cat. >> absolutely. the closest she went on the immigration issue was to guatemala. right? would she go to guatemala for magnus? did you go to the border? she said no, but i haven't been to europe. i mean, completely out of her depth on on a massive, major issue. he missed a great opportunity. >> the heavyweight boxing. you remember muhammad ali with the rope a dope? yes. you know, the idea he had to let him come to him. come to him? absolutely. and then suddenly, after about 2 or 3 rounds. bang. yeah, yeah. >> don't actually think the debate will make much difference at all to people in america. and how they're going to vote, though they either love or hate trump, and they love or hate

kamala harris. this entrenchment of views is enormous. but i do think that it wavering democratic voters. >> yeah, yeah, it'll energise them in a way, and it'll bring money in a way. >> she wasn't really competing against trump in that debate. she was competing against biden and people who would have said, i can't vote for biden. actually, i quite like her. i will vote for her. that's who she'll get. >> as soon as the debate was oven >> as soon as the debate was over, they said taylor swift has endorsed kamala harris. >> that's right. yeah absolutely. >> mike perry and taylor swift . >> mike perry and taylor swift. >> mike perry and taylor swift. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and she is. >> and she is. >> she is a phenomenal worldwide phenomenon, isn't she? >> who? taylor swift. oh, without a shadow of a doubt. >> and elon musk is now piled in and attacked her, which made it even worse. >> i totally agree. i mean, the greatest lobby that politicians want to grab and own in the world are the gen zs, aren't they? because generally speaking, they're apolitical. so if you can make them political, you've got a huge lobby. >> they're voting for you. the thing is that taylor swift's fans are mostly about 12 years old, so whether they can persuade their parents, they've got. >> yeah, exactly. that's what i'm saying. they've got parents. oh, daddy, you know something

very important before we move on, i'm trying to work out what on, i'm trying to work out what on earth we describe the colour of your dress, but it matches your glasses. >> it's turquoise. we are not worthy. >> not important . >> not important. >> not important. >> would you have said. >> would you have said. >> would you have said that if i was wearing a pair of glasses? which. if you were like that. if you were. no. that is old fashioned sexism from the labour party. >> i'm impossible to offend steve, but you know that , right? steve, but you know that, right? 5050 labour mps defied starmer yesterday, refusing to back this winter fuel cut. one of them i was just looking is rebecca long—bailey. she's the mp for salford where there are lots of pensioners on the poverty line there because she ran for the leadership against starmer, she did. i'd forgotten that she did. and she's put a tweet out saying i couldn't support this yesterday for my constituents. you didn't vote against it. >> no, no, no. >> only this one guy jon did. jon. >> jon trickett . it's utterly >> jon trickett. it's utterly pathetic, honestly. and also, if you look at the actual facts here, the sheer hypocrisy . 162 here, the sheer hypocrisy. 162 labour mps claimed £425,000 on expenses for energy in their

second homes since 2019, not their first home. >> their second home chancellor of the exchequer, claiming more than £4,000 4000. of the exchequer, claiming more own home. if the chancellor of the exchequer, she's got a constituency up in leeds, she has to have a flat in london. yes. it's reasonable that she can claim that. why should she have to pay a hotel room? >> yeah, she could stay in a hotel. >> no, i don't mind her. would it? >> of course it would. >> of course it would. >> i don't mind her claiming it for her second home because she's a, you know, a she's doing her duty for the state and all that kind of stuff. but at the same time, to say i need to keep warm in leeds. but other people in leeds who are over the age of 65 don't need to stay warm. so they can get cold. and as andrew pointed out here in his story on monday morning, 4000 pensioners could die from this measure. and that's according to labour party research. >> that really is shroud waving. look, come on, we all know the answer to this is why on earth should the king get the same money? >> what is shroud waving? >> what is shroud waving? >> 4000 pensioners. >> 4000 pensioners. >> that was labour party

research. >> no, no it wasn't. it was jeremy corbyn. >> it was labour party research trotted out by labour shadow cabinet ministers, who included jeremy corbyn, keir starmer. yeah, keir starmer, who's now the labour leader, keir starmer. it was true in 2017. so why is it not true now. >> curse him. curse him for his loyalty if you will. but the fact remains is that that figure of 4000 people is a very, very hypothetical figure. and if you honestly think 4000 pensioners are going to die freezing in there. well, labour said they are going to from their research. >> i've read it, i read it could, could not. oh, for a politician. stephen you're getting very sort of precise aren't you, about the woods and the woods verging on hypothermia verging on hypothermia as an old person this week. >> well, i could die now, or i suppose, i suppose they could wear an overcoat in bed. >> stephen, let's try it. yeah. bobble hats. yeah. you're right. bev. i was lucky i only got pneumonia. yeah. yeah, absolutely. >> that's going back to. but stephen, just explain to us we saw the minister, penny pennycook , saying, oh, no.

pennycook, saying, oh, no. >> all but about 11 of those 52 abstained, were given permission to be absent from the parliamentary estate. why do they insult our intelligence? exactly. it's just a lie. yes, they abstained and they've made an excuse. we'll say you've got an excuse. we'll say you've got a constituency. say you've got a dental appointment . dental appointment. >> political chicanery. >> political chicanery. >> matthew pennycook is one of those honest politicians you'll ever meet. and i'm sure he'll learn how to lie at some stage. but he can't at the moment. some of the people like hilary benn, he was in belfast yesterday. he was doing very, very important business. we had the jeffrey donaldson trial and i can go down that list of very convenient, very convenient. >> he would have voted for it if he was in the commons, because he's a member of the cabinet that has come up with this ridiculous plan. >> i was on the frontbench and we had the debate about the gurkha passports, and i voted against my own government on that one, because i felt that the gurkhas should be given a very noble. >> you weren't in the cabinet? >> you weren't in the cabinet? >> no, i was on the front bench. yeah. >> and you weren't a government minister? >> fair point. yeah. >> fair point. yeah. >> shadow minister, can i just point out something very quickly? £300 is what they're taking off. the pensioners. £300

is one day's pay for a train driver who gets £75,000 a year, one day's pay and considerably less than labour peers get in the house of lords forjust the house of lords for just clocking on 316. isn't it 316? 360 a day? is that going to be means tested, do you think? >> the lovely sam francis is very patiently waiting for us. we're late for the news. here he is. these two will be back in a bit. >> very good morning to you from the newsroom. 1032 exactly. and as we were just hearing there, labouris as we were just hearing there, labour is facing mounting pressure from within its own ranks to reverse cuts to the winter fuel payment. after 50 of its own mps abstained or were absent from yesterday's commons vote. the policy, which will see 10 million pensioners lose the payment, has sparked backlash, with some labour mps warning they'll keep pushing for a u—turn. charities and opposition parties say the cut could leave older people choosing between heating and eating this winter. but despite the opposition, the government insists the cuts are

necessary to fix a £22 billion financial shortfall . no fault financial shortfall. no fault evictions could soon be history as the government prepares to ban section 21 evictions, the renters rights bill, set to be introduced today, promises sweeping changes to protect england's 11 million renters. it will also force private landlords to take faster action on unsafe housing conditions. deputy prime minister angela rayner says the bill will overhaul renting and tackle what she's described as unfair practices . but landlords are practices. but landlords are warning the reforms must be fair to both sides . 11,000 patients to both sides. 11,000 patients are being traced and contacted after receiving incorrect blood test results. a testing issue at luton and dunstable university hospital may have led to misdiagnoses of diabetes. the affected patients from luton, south bedfordshire and hertfordshire will be invited for retests and the trust has apologised but is urging people not to call the hospital unless contacted. directory directly,

rather an investigation is underway to determine the cause . underway to determine the cause. to ukraine, where david lammy and anthony blinken have arrived, calling it a critical moment in the war with russia. the foreign secretary and us secretary of state will meet with president zelenskyy to discuss kyivs needs, as it continues to fight against moscow. their joint visit follows reports that joe biden, us president, will lift a ban on british storm shadow missiles being used on russian territory after iran supplied ballistic missiles to russia . in the us, missiles to russia. in the us, donald trump and kamala harris have clashed on crime, immigration, abortion and the economy in their first and possibly only presidential debate. the showdown last night began with a handshake, but quickly took a turn when harris mocked trump's rallies, accusing him of boring his crowds. trump, though, hit back, defending his popularity and attacking harris on her immigration stance and economic policies . economic policies. >> she's going to do this. she's going to do that. she's going to

do all these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? she's been there for three and a half years . they've had three and years. they've had three and a half years to fix the border. they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> later in the debate, harris blamed trump for nationwide abortion restrictions and the capitol riot while questioning his fitness for office. >> donald trump left us the worst unemployment since the great depression. donald trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. donald trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war . war. >> those are the latest headunes >> those are the latest headlines for now . a full headlines for now. a full roundup at 11:00. next, though, a look at the markets for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone. >> sign up to news alerts by

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1040. this is britain's newsroom. >> well, the labour government is working towards finalising a £500 million rescue package for tata steel port talbot plant in wales. >> of course, this follows the closure of the steel company's blast furnaces at around 2800. jobs are expected to be cut and they're closing down the blast furnaces and replacing them with more environmentally friendly ones. >> of course, 3000 jobs going as a result. >> well, the deal's negotiated by the former government will enable this green shift that andrew talks about for the steel company, including plans to replace coal powered processes. >> well, let's get more on this from gb news reporterjack carson, who is in port talbot for us. jack. morning to you . for us. jack. morning to you. >> yeah. good morning to you

both. so to according reports, we are expecting the business secretary, jonathan reynolds, to make a statement after prime minister's questions today outlining labour's finalised deal with tata steel. of course, in to order help fund this electric arc furnace, which is what tata steel are trying to replace the two blast furnaces that they've got here at the port talbot steelworks. now the first of those two blast furnaces here closed down in july. the second one is still running, but they want to put it have this package in place. it's a £1.25 billion package believed to be able to implement this electric arc furnace. it's different to the way the current blast furnaces work. it uses scrap metal in order to melt and to power it. and so this is the £500 million agreement that we believe is not much change on, on on the money. we believe it's

still going to be £500 million in this deal that labour have negotiated. of course, that was the figure that the previous conservative government had negotiated, but it's the difference on the redundancy terms. the retraining programs that were still the final points that were still the final points that the conservative party and tata steel were still working on when it came to the last general election in the aftermath of labour's victory. jonathan reynolds said that a better deal was possible than the one negotiated by the previous government. as you were mentioning, the move to this electric arc furnace is going to have a huge impact here on the local economy, on local jobs, it's 2800 jobs, which are expected to be lost because this electric car furnace needs a lot less staff in order to be able to work it and to have it up and up and running. now, jobs will of course be created with the implementation of this electric arc furnace. it's understood to, to be able to have to take a numerous amount of years in order for it to be built and

jobs will be created, but the ultimate loss to the economy will be huge here with with simply with the amount of jobs thatis simply with the amount of jobs that is going. but we are expecting that announcement from jonathan reynolds a little bit later today . later today. >> thank you. jack we've been looking at how just. thank you. thank you . jack jack carson thank you. jack jack carson there at tata steel plant. we've been looking at what you've been saying at home. that's why we're a little distracted. because we like. we like. your comments are coming in this morning. and cynthia's pointing out that all the five reform mps voted with the five reform mps voted with the conservatives yesterday on the conservatives yesterday on the winter fuel payments. it isn't true that nigel farage abstained. i didn't think we said it was, did we? >> well , we said it was, did we? >> well, we haven't said that on this programme. no. >> da da da. here we go. ollie has said, i think i think richard tice spoke in the debate. >> actually, yes. >> actually, yes. >> he did he speak in the debate? yes, i think he did, didn't he? yesterday edward said starmer and reeves don't or can't do empathy. her interview

with chopper was very revealing. they are the new nasties. there is a sense, i think, that so many of these policies, they cannot claim them to be compassionate nor caring or kind or in support of what would be the traditional labour voter. those images yesterday of the prisoners being released, we're going to play them to you in a little while as well. during the show. i don't know how any politician or any prime minister thought that was going to land. well, all these scallies coming out and popping champagne corks, one of whom, one of the people who got let out was banged up for taking a six month old child. >> so severely. the child is now paralysed and blind . how can paralysed and blind. how can that lout, cruel person be released early if they felt it was so essential to get people out of prison because they're overcrowded, could they start with 11,000 foreign prisoners and kick the lot of them out and send them back to where they came from? that would do the trick. >> that question was asked of

shabana mahmood, the justice secretary, yesterday in the commons, and she said, we are working on that. in fact, that was richard tice asked that question yesterday and she said, we are working on those sorts of deportations that that is happening anyway. it was a sort of slightly fluffy, nonsense answer to be honest, get in touch with us this morning, won't you ? gbnews.com/yoursay? won't you? gbnews.com/yoursay? it's not loading at the moment. >> coming up next, though , >> coming up next, though, british missiles. are they going to be used by ukraine to who would actually be able to fly them into russia for the first time, which would be a major escalation of britain's involvement in this war between russia and ukraine. >> because that's just what we want, isn't it? that is just what we want, this escalation of this situation. >> that's why that's why david lammy, the foreign secretary, is with antony blinken, the us secretary of state. and starmer is flying to america to see joe biden. joe biden may remember who he is. he may not, i suppose, with his memory, because it will be biden's decision and we will go along with it .

with it. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> let the americans decide. >> let the americans decide. >> let the americans decide. >> let us know your thoughts on that. we're going to take a quick break. is it cup of tea time? ipso live across the uk and biscuit time, by the way, we've never thanked somebody for sending us a whole box of biscuits. >> can we tell you of them were by the producers, which is quite right.

>> by. >> by . 1049 this >> by. 1049 this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> so president biden yes he is still president is expected to lift the ban on british storm missiles being sent from ukraine into russia. >> there will be a major escalation, of course, and it comes as the us and uk have imposed fresh sanctions on iran after they supplied ballistic missiles to russia. >> foreign secretary david lammy and us secretary of state antony blinken are due to discuss the matter today in kyiv go on now, we say we're joined by the former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence, major—general chip chapman.

>> i'm just looking at the front page of the times chip kyiv to get go ahead to strike deep into russia. it's not really a decision for us, is it? it will be if , because we decision for us, is it? it will be if, because we understand starmer is going to see biden this week, if biden says yes , do this week, if biden says yes, do we all then follow suit or and in fact, should we follow suit? or is that then putting britain at risk of retaliation by russia ? at risk of retaliation by russia? >> well, we don't have to follow biden. it's a sovereign authority. if you want to give the authority for storm shadow to be used, although it's not actually because there are french components in that. so you'd need french authorities. so if you were going to use british missiles into russia, you would need french, british authority for storm shadow. we generally follow what the big brother across the atlantic is going to do in terms of escalation. this would be a geographic escalation. nothing more than that , because both the more than that, because both the attack and himars and storm shadow have been used in the

occupied russian territory in crimea. the reason it's been used there , of course, is used there, of course, is because that is sovereign ukrainian territory illegally occupied, it's worth saying that the general view at the moment is that putin's most effective weapon is the west's fear of escalation. and lord robertson, the former defence secretary for the former defence secretary for the labour party and nato secretary—general, has quite clearly stated that putin will only be forced to retreat from ukraine by an absence of western caution. so there is a view that this would help ukraine. it's also worth saying, of course, that ukraine has struck near moscow in the last few days, and on the 1st of september, that is, with their indigenous systems. they don't necessarily need the british and european systems for this. neither will it push back the aircraft, which are launching the glide bombs and firing missiles all the way to nato's border with poland. 90% of russian aircraft are

beyond the range of atacms, himars and storm shadow. what it would do is to help push the staging areas and supply depots of the russians further back. >> what do you see, chip as the outcome here? because i don't hear any leaders around the world talk about peace, actually, donald trump was the only person in the debate last night. said he would like to bnng night. said he would like to bring this war to an end. all the western leaders seem to talk only of escalation . only of escalation. >> well, if you if you go back to may last year, donald trump's , to may last year, donald trump's, talk of peace then was that he didn't he didn't think in terms of he thought in terms of stopping the killing. and that's an honourable thing in terms of an honourable thing in terms of a humanitarian peace. the trouble with that approach is that it plays in russia's favour, in that it is a surrender peace, and it gives russia the pieces of territory that they occupy at the moment. in terms of the peace, you can posit six different ways of

doing this . you can have doing this. you can have a frozen peace at the moment. that's unlikely and is one of the reasons, i think, that ukraine went into cursed. if you had a frozen peace with the illegally occupied for oblasts or states or counties equivalent, russia would just say that we own them . now you say that we own them. now you can have land for peace, but that also means that you give away the sovereignty for ukraine, which is theirs from 1991, a just peace would be ukraine getting their borders back, as we sort of said we should do . under the budapest should do. under the budapest memorandum of 1991, when we guaranteed with the us their sovereignty. or you can have a carthaginian peace in the view of that, is that only a defeated russia will make the world a better place, which is most likely. well, i'd like to see a just peace. and that ukraine regains its 1991 boundaries. negotiation is all about seeing what the left and right of arc are always going to be. i don't think we're anywhere near negotiations on the table at the

moment. i think we'll need to see what happens, particularly in november, and the american election. that may be a catalyst for something, but in the near term, i don't see any peace on the on the horizon. >> okay, chip, good to see you. chip chapman there, former could everything could change if trump wins because he pointedly didn't say whether he wanted ukraine to win. >> he just said he wants it to end. >> and that's why i want trump to win. because i do think he's got the best chance of coming to some sort of resolution in that region. anyway, it's back british farming day quite right too . we need our farmers. too. we need our farmers. they're very important. no farmers, no food. discussing that in a minute. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. it feels more like october or november out there today. a distinctly chilly wind. a few sunny spells, but also

most places seeing plenty of showers. here's the reason why. low pressure sitting up to the north—east and north or northwesterly winds bringing the air down. bringing that chill and bringing plenty of showers. packing in over north west england, extending down to the midlands , north and west wales, midlands, north and west wales, northern and western parts of scotland, parts of eastern england, southwest england and southeast scotland may not see any showers could stay largely dry and bright here, but elsewhere expect showers to come and go and everywhere you can expect to feel the chill. temperatures struggling into the mid teens. at best, it feels even colder with that wind, which will be quite gusty, particularly close to the showers. a few are likely to filter down towards the southeast through this evening and maybe the southwest as well, but lots of showers for wales, northwest england coming and going across northern ireland, northeast england, southeast scotland may well be mostly dry through the afternoon, but the showers continuing to come in across northern and western scotland, where the winds are

strongest. and it really does feel chilly out here and it's going to be a pretty cold evening and an even colder night. we'll continue to see some showers drifting in over nonh some showers drifting in over north and west wales , northwest north and west wales, northwest england, but this should tend to ease across the midlands . ease across the midlands. showers keep going in northern scotland, but many areas just becoming clear. the winds will ease a touch as well and that will allow those temperatures to drop 5 or 6 degrees. that's towns and cities. many rural areas not far off freezing , in areas not far off freezing, in fact, below across a good part of rural scotland . so yes, a of rural scotland. so yes, a real chill for thursday morning . real chill for thursday morning. another day of sunshine and showers, but not as many showers. still plenty for north and west wales and northern scotland, but a drier day for south—west scotland, northwest england and again much of the east will be dry and fine . east will be dry and fine. chilly, but the winds won't be as strong tomorrow . as strong tomorrow. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb

>> morning, 11:00 on wednesday the 11th of september. live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> good morning. so sit down with rachel reeves this morning. our political editor christopher hope, quizzed chancellor rachel reeves on the government's cuts to winter fuel payments. >> this government faced a £22 billion black hole in the public finances, but we were determined to protect the poorest pensioners . pensioners. >> the first us presidential debate. it might be the last because donald trump and kamala harris clashed in their first face off. most people seem to think victory for harris and the future of fire fighting. >> a group of students have been awarded this year's james dyson award for their design of peri. it's a wildlife detection system aimed to help remote communities and back british farming day. >> yes, we're delighted to

today's the annual day to support british food and farming. but what would this mean under labour's first budget, as many farmers fear they may not survive potential changes to inheritance tax ? changes to inheritance tax? >> and of course it is wednesday time for pmqs. starmer will take on sunak in the commons. they've got a lot to talk about. we're going to be chatting to christopher hope and gloria de piero ahead of gb news pmqs show at 12. get involved gbnews.com/yoursay. we'll go and read your messages. here's the news with sam . here's the news with sam. >> very good morning to you. it's just after 11:00. the top story from the newsroom this morning. labour is facing mounting pressure from within its own ranks to reverse cuts to the winter fuel payment. after 50 of its own mps abstained or were absent from yesterday's commons vote. the policy, which

will see 10 million pensioners lose the payment, has sparked backlash, with some labour mps warning they will keep pushing for a u—turn. charities and opposition parties say the cut could leave older people choosing between heating and eating this winter well, despite the opposition, the government insists the cuts are necessary to fix a £22 billion financial shortfall . no fault evictions shortfall. no fault evictions could soon be history as the government prepares to ban section 21 evictions, the renters rights bill, set to be introduced today, promises sweeping changes to protect england's 11 million renters. it will also force private landlords to take faster action on unsafe housing conditions and to end blanket bans on tenants who receive benefits or who have children. deputy prime minister angela rayner says the bill will overhaul renting and tackle what she's described as unfair practices. but landlords warn the reforms must be fair to both sides . well, we've heard this sides. well, we've heard this morning that 11,000 patients are

being traced and contacted after receiving incorrect blood test results. a testing issue at luton and dunstable university hospital may have led to misdiagnoses of diabetes. the affected patients from luton , affected patients from luton, south bedfordshire and hertfordshire will be invited for retests and the trust has apologised but is urging people not to call the hospital unless contacted directly. an investigation is now underway to determine the cause turning overseas, and david lammy and antony blinken have arrived in ukraine, calling it a critical moment in the war with russia. the foreign secretary and the us secretary of state will meet with president zelenskyy to discuss kyivs needs in its ongoing fight against moscow. their joint visit follows reports that the president of the united states, joe biden , is the united states, joe biden, is expected to lift a ban on british storm shadow missiles being used on russian territory. that's after iran supplied ballistic missiles to russia . ballistic missiles to russia. well, in a crackdown on russia's

so—called shadow fleet. the uk has this morning sanctioned ten vessels involved in dodging western oil embargoes. david lammy, foreign secretary, says that move blocks russia's ability to trade in oil and that it sends a clear message to moscow . the fleet is accused of moscow. the fleet is accused of using illicit methods to keep russian oil flowing despite sanctions. that news just into us this morning, in the last hour or so . meanwhile, in the hour or so. meanwhile, in the us, donald trump and kamala harris have clashed on crime, immigration, abortion and the economy in the first and possibly only presidential debate. the showdown began last night with a handshake, but quickly took a turn when harris mocked trump's rallies, accusing him of boring his supporters. trump, though, hit back, defending his popularity and attacked harris on her immigration stance and economic policies . policies. >> she's going to do this. she's going to do that. she's going to do all these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? she's been there for three and a half years. they've had three and a

half years to fix the border. they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> well, later in the debate , >> well, later in the debate, harris blamed trump for nationwide abortion restrictions and the capitol riot and questioned trump's fitness for office. >> donald trump left us the worst unemployment since the great depression. donald trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century. donald trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the civil war . war. >> well, some breaking news just coming to us from the court of appeal. three decades in the making, oliver campbell, a man with severe learning disabilities, has this morning had his wrongful murder conviction overturned. the 54 year old spent 11 years behind bars for the 1991 killing of shopkeeper baldev honda. campbell's solicitor, glyn

maddox , called him a lamb to the maddox, called him a lamb to the slaughter, saying officers had manipulated him during interrogations and then pressured him into confessing. after 33 years, his case has been described as one of the longest miscarriages of justice in british history. longest miscarriages of justice in british history . a mother who in british history. a mother who missed her son's court appearance to holiday in ibiza will face a judge today. her 12 year old son, one of the youngest involved in last month's riots, admitted to violent disorder in manchester. he was in court for attacking a bus and vandalising a vape shop, crimes that were tied to unrest after a stabbing spree in southport. the judge, who described the mother's absence as astonishing, has summed summoned her to explain her actions . and finally, what do actions. and finally, what do you call a fish with a mirror? no, it's not a joke. it's called a blue streak. and the tiny tropical fish might just know what it's looking at. scientists in japan have found that the blue streak can recognise its reflection and even size itself up, before deciding to pick a

fight. in lab experiments, the swimmers checked their body in a mirror before going after smaller fish, and researchers think it could be a clue to how self—awareness evolved. the fish now join an elite club of animals alongside chimps, dolphins and elephants. animals alongside chimps, dolphins and elephants . you get dolphins and elephants. you get all the fun facts here on gb news. those are the latest headunes news. those are the latest headlines for now. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> welcome back . we've had our >> welcome back. we've had our tea and biscuits, right. this is britain . put your biscuits out britain. put your biscuits out aren't you? well done. okay. overnight in the us, donald trump and kamala harris went head to head in their first presidential debate. >> here are some of the standout moments . moments. >> she has no policy. everything that she believed three years

ago and four years ago is out the window. she's going to my philosophy now. in fact, i was going to send her a maga hat. she's gone to my philosophy. but if she ever got elected, she'd change it. and it will be the end of our country. >> i actually have the endorsement of 200 republicans who have formerly worked with president bush, mitt romney , and president bush, mitt romney, and john mccain, his former chief of staff. a four star general, has said he has contempt for the constitution of the united states. >> this is the one that weaponized, not me. she weaponized. i probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about the things that they say about me. they talk about democracy. i'm a threat to democracy. me. they talk about democracy. i'm a threat to democracy. >> these dictators and autocrats >> these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be are rooting for you to be president again, because they're president again, because they're so clear they can manipulate you so clear they can manipulate you eating with flattery and favours . with flattery and favours . with flattery and favours. >> in springfield, they're with flattery and favours. >> in springfield, they're eating the dogs. the people that eating the dogs. the people that came in, they're eating the came in, they're eating the

cats. they're eating. they're cats. they're eating. they're eating the pets of the people that live there . that live there. >> well, there was a lot to digest here, no pun intended , on digest here, no pun intended, on the accusation that people are eating cats. but the us political journalist laurie lehr joins us now. laurie, good morning. >> good morning to you both. >> good morning to you both. >> i actually think, given that kamala harris is largely known for talking a load of word salad, she often just says a lot of words that don't make any sort of sense. it looks from the clips that we've seen and obviously we weren't up all night watching it. it looks like in terms

obsessed with crowd sizes, right from his first inauguration. so she went after that. people are leaving. donald trump rallies because they're bored. that is something that will get to donald trump. so it feels like she worked very, very hard. her team worked very hard to figure out trump's vulnerabilities. but what i found very disappointing is there was no discussion of policy. i think we're getting a sense of how kamala harris is going to run this campaign. and she was slick and she was self—assured, and she didn't take the bait. she managed to bait him . but what we don't have bait him. but what we don't have a sense of is how will she govern? she really slides out of any policy questions. and, you know , going back and forth on know, going back and forth on this, does it matter? it matters to me. but, you know, hillary clinton was a policy wonk, right? and that didn't help her get elected. perhaps at this moment , get elected. perhaps at this moment, american get elected. perhaps at this moment , american voters are more

moment, american voters are more concerned about character than they are about policy. >> yeah, and that could be laurie. why she has avoided pretty much any big, big set piece interview. she's done one, i think it was about 20, 25 minutes, but she hasn't sat down and it was priti and it was pretty soft. >> it was, it was. >> but she hasn't done an hour. perhaps if the polls stay like this, she doesn't need to. and doesn't risk it. boris johnson here, for instance , avoided 1 or here, for instance, avoided 1 or 2 big interrogations and he won by a landslide. >> you're absolutely right. and bofis >> you're absolutely right. and boris johnson was not someone who was known for his, you know, grasp or interest in policy detail. so perhaps that isn't what american voters are looking for . perhaps what american voters are looking for. perhaps this election will be decided on character. it troubles me. and when kamala harris has articulated some policy, she did an economic speech about a month ago where she talked about price gouging and how she was going to prevent supermarkets from taking advantage of consumers. there's no evidence that that has been

happening. i think that's her identifying that inflation is still an issue for most us voters . but her remedy there voters. but her remedy there isn't really a remedy. a lot of the product, the prices for goods and services are are decided at an international level, not may not be a lot she can do, but what she suggested was economically nonsensical. and i think that donald trump has a lot more leeway. we know him , right? he was elected in him, right? he was elected in 2016 with the same sort of bombastic, you know, articulations that we're seeing now. she has more to prove. and i would like to see her under a little bit more of an interrogation . i'd like to see interrogation. i'd like to see her be forced to articulate how she will govern. >> it was broadcast. >> it was broadcast. >> these are long answers . >> it was broadcast. >> these are long answers. i'm quite obsessed with this one. >> it's laurie. it was broadcast by abc network. lots of speculation on social media, lots of people having the opinion that the adjudicators

were biased in favour of kamala harris and seemed to take some pleasure, in fact, checking donald trump . also, his now donald trump. also, his now supporter bobby kennedy jr, had said afterwards that he was distressed by the amount of times that donald trump was fact checked compared to kamala harris particularly said in the first question where the adjudicators didn't pull harris up on what might be opinion rather than fact. >> i think you're right about that, and i certainly noticed that, and i certainly noticed that when i was watching, and i'm not quite sure how to best do this fact checking, because donald trump tells a lot of lies. and if he fact checked every bit of it, there wouldn't be much time for the candidates to speak. but certainly when kamala harris said it's a clip that you had just played, that donald trump left the economy in the worst shape since the great depression, joblessness, unemployment and the worst level since the great depression. that's not true . it's simply is that's not true. it's simply is not true. and that should have

been fact checked. i do think that the donald trump, to my mind, told more untruths, but i think the moderators did give harris a little bit easier of a time. and i think that things like what i just mentioned, this unemployment, they should have called her up on simply to preserve the appearance of fairness. >> i think laurie, bearing in mind the polls are very tight that this is going to make is going to be significant for her because there had been speculation that it could go horribly wrong because of her lack of experience. trump has done this many times before. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and look, we know what we're going to get from trump. she certainly had more to prove. i think the democrats should be concerned about the polling right now. kamala harris had a nice bump when she replaced joe biden at the top of the ticket. but there wasn't a convention bump. there wasn't a post convention bump, despite the choreography of that democratic convention. and she is getting an easy ride from the media. i mean, the coverage is gushing.

the andrew, the interview that you mentioned with cnn, with dana bash, really soft stuff. and she sat there with with her running mate . so i would be if i running mate. so i would be if i were the democratic party should be very concerned that she is not in the lead. and i think we look at national polling, we got to forget about that. we got to look at the polling in swing states. this is where, because of the electoral college, this is where it will be decided. and look at how both candidates are have their feet stuck on the ground in the state of pennsylvania. they both believe that this is where it's going to be won. and last night was the debate was, in fact, my hometown, the biggest city in pennsylvania, philadelphia . and pennsylvania, philadelphia. and they both plan to make many stops in that state. that's what they think is the battleground. >> thank you . thank you, laurie. >> thank you. thank you, laurie. great to see you, laurie. the american political journalist who's clearly had an excellent summer. what kind of town did laurie laird have there? she's obviously enjoyed herself this summer. right. still to come, we're going to go through the

stories with our panel, and we're going to show you those scenes from yesterday. i thought of you yesterday, andrew, you were obviously down in brighton when those pictures were coming in, of the lags coming out. unbelievable. a champagne celebrating. don't go anywhere . celebrating. don't go anywhere. >> the stage managing of it. extraordinary. see you in

>> i'm christopher hope and i'm gloria de piero, bringing you pmqs live here on gb news. >> whenever parliament is in session on a wednesday at midday, we'll bring you live coverage of prime minister's questions. we'll be asking our viewers and listeners to submit the questions that they would like to put to the prime minister, and we'll put that to our panel of top politicians in our panel of top politicians in our westminster studio. >> that's pmqs live here on gb. news. >> britain's news channel .

>> britain's news channel. >> britain's news channel. >> 1119 this is britain's >>1119 this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew and bev. stephen pound is here. mike parry as well. we just want to reflect for a moment at some of the wonderful scenes of your new neighbours that came out of prison yesterday. here we go. >> oh no, happy to be out today. >> oh no, happy to be out today. >> i'm happy to be out. are you grateful to keir starmer for this release scheme? no. keir starmer i am because this release scheme? no. keir starmeri am because i'm this release scheme? no. keir starmer i am because i'm a big laboun starmer i am because i'm a big labour. oh really? yeah labour supporter out with the old. in with the new. it's been too long anyway i think. yeah everyone's everyone's been happy today i'm sure. coming out though isn't it. yeah. there's been a lot of happy people faces in there. >> yeah yeah yeah. so you're, you're grateful to labour and you're grateful to labour and you're grateful to the 100% laboun >> i'm labour. vote labour. all my life. yeah. labour's labour's one. one. >> one. >> oh did they set it all up before you got out of prison when you was in there. oh that's nice. keir starmer isn't it. sweet boy. he's the he's the prime minister. on he's the one that let you out. he's the one that let you out. he's the one that got you out. yeah, man. yeah, man. take it easy, boy. nice .

nice. >> this is wandsworth prison, if you're listening on the radio. >> yeah , and there's a. they're >> yeah, and there's a. they're waving champagne or pomagne or whatever it is celebrating. they are triumphalist. they're glorying in it. mike. there's a problem with the prisons. this is going to infuriate the public. and they can blame the tories all they like. the prisons were full to bursting, letting out 1700 on the same day as the winter fuel allowance. have they lost the plot completely? this government unbelievable. >> and do you remember the original reason for this? we've got to let people out of prison. otherwise they'll be riots on the streets. you know, completely nonsensical view of doing it. there's now going to be more riots on the streets. but let me tell you a story, because i'm from stockbroker belt, surrey. okay? and there is a prison on the north downs called high down. okay. now my landlord or my favourite pub is in epsom . epsom is a very nice in epsom. epsom is a very nice town, you know, epsom spa and all that kind of stuff. a group of people came in at about midday 1230 yesterday. he thought he was welcoming a wedding party. he thought a load of people were getting together

ahead of a wedding or something. they'd just got out of high down jail and all they make to come and pick them up and take them to a very expensive pub in epsom, where they stayed for 3 or 4 hours. what is this country coming to? what is this country coming to? what is this country coming to? >> stephen pound , ex—labour mp >> stephen pound, ex—labour mp you had your head in your hands then, didn't you? well, i'm sorry if you had to sit down and say, what is the worst possible look that we could come up with? >> it's some multiple tattooed wife beating yobbo being released from hmp durham, saying i'm now a lifelong labour voter, so don't don't rub it in. yeah. please don't. >> keir starmer is my hero. >> keir starmer is my hero. >> will you please stop rubbing it in? look, just a couple of things. first of all, anybody who's had more than a four year sentence wasn't being released. and the second thing is the tories were doing exactly this, but they were doing it rather more sensibly and subtly. they were sneaking them out under the cover of darkness or on a sunday morning, a dozen here, a dozen there. >> yeah. not not 1700 in 1 day, because they don't care. >> isn't that because labour seems to be acting with absolute impunity with anything? just don't care what the public think on this majority. they're

unbelievable. >> i really i really i really hope! >> i really i really i really hope i really, really hope that isn't the case. i mean, i hope that it's more to do with, you know, let's not be surreptitious, let's not be sneaky. let's actually be open about this. but however you cut it, some of those images, you know, not just the, you know, the prosecco being sprayed all oven the prosecco being sprayed all over, somebody being picked up in a lamborghini. >> lamborghini. yeah. but i mean , >> lamborghini. yeah. but i mean, so crime. >> crime pays. crime pays. that's right. but you say crime doesn't pay. but it's right. >> it's almost as if the idea now is to flood society with undesirables, to dilute society . undesirables, to dilute society. >> so they're going to vote labour? absolutely >> and did you know, by the way you were talking about the way the tories did it? the tories sent 4000 people back to foreign jails over the last three years. okay. they actually started doing something. we've got 10,000 people in this country who are foreign nationals, most of whom don't speak english. the tories have been a good job getting them out quietly and they get them out quietly because they don't want the people on the aeroplane suddenly stand up and demand, you know, save this person, all that kind of stuff. i think it's

absolutely outrageous . and absolutely outrageous. and there's no, absolutely no justification for it whatsoever. and sorry, just one last point. you said for years and all that, stephen, without a shadow of a doubt, some very dangerous people have got out because they've been measured only on they've been measured only on the latest crime for which they were locked up, for not the 15 previous crimes. >> i don't think that's accurate. i think it is accurate. i think it is accurate. but look, don't forget we're deporting people to albania and romania particularly. yeah. and also, oddly enough, to vietnam. but i just find it amazing. germany is now deporting people, somehow deporting people to afghanistan. now how when we were told that it was absolutely impossible. i appreciate that's another story, but with this particular thing, we were promised we'd have all these new prisons ten years ago. the tories are now saying that because of planning constraints, they couldn't do it. well, i'm sorry, we've simply got to start building prisons. we've got just under 100,000 people in prisons in england and wales , all of in england and wales, all of them overcrowded, 10,500 rehabilitated, 10,500 foreign prisoners. >> kick them all out now. >> kick them all out now. >> yeah. a lot. >> yeah. a lot. >> yeah . deport them out. prison >> yeah. deport them out. prison crisis sorted . where to send crisis sorted. where to send them back to where they their

country . country. >> we're deporting people to jamaica. we're deporting people to romania and to albania. >> yeah, but that'll stop now. that will stop now, in my view, because they don't see that as a fair solution, you know, to make prisons empty by sending people back to their country , they back to their country, they might get persecuted in their country. the fact that they've committed very serious crimes here doesn't, doesn't seem to count. >> i mean, if you if you knew yvette cooper believe you me, she is nobody the home secretary. yeah i mean, she has got no worries at all about sending rapists back to kingston, jamaica. >> not doing very well, is she? how many people have crossed the channel since she became home secretary? >> she also wanted a lot of people to go to prison for writing something mean on on twitter or facebook in a moment. >> i think there's a case of a person and we probably, oh, you'd be surprised. >> more than one 900 people after those riots, weren't they? some of them were just, well, you see, i mean, the police are talking in the paper today about a hate crime being somebody, looking at someone in a funny way. >> i mean, that's another argument, another story. but believe you me, some of the people we send to prison, we

shouldn't be sending to prison. some of the people who go to prison should never, ever go anywhere where the sunlight doesn't come in stripes. >> sure. >> sure. >> and some of those people shouldn't have been released. even because some of them previous offences were domestic violence. and domestic violence. offenders tend to reoffend or violence against children. >> they've been excluded. >> they've been excluded. >> there's one chap in particular who i think you've seen. sorry. yes >> child shook him so hard he's bunded >> child shook him so hard he's blinded and disabled. absolutely. >> and that guy's out now because they made the decision. on what he was last sent to prison for, not historically what he was in prison for previously. >> the parent of that infant is devastated. yeah >> can we just quickly talk about the fact that gear change harry's netflix documentary, trailed mick. >> unbelievably trite. i could not believe it . after we got not believe it. after we got that wonderful three minute video of catherine being, you know , celebrating a return to know, celebrating a return to health. but at the same time, a warning that cancer can come back any time. >> we don't know if she's in the clear. we don't know. >> you're never in the clear. i don't think you know, jack of all trades. the sports reporter at sky. ten years after she

first had cancer and got cured with it, she had another scare. you know, you've got to be very aware of that. so i think catherine got absolutely right. but what was so utterly trite about this very , you know, about this very, you know, uplifting and quite solemn production was a few hours later, harry and meghan think that they're as important to the world to let them know what their latest project is involving polo. >> well, the latest. >> well, the latest. >> they can't help themselves, can they ? no. can they? no. >> i mean, i think we shouldn't let this pass without actually giving our best wishes to kate middleton because she's been, of course. i mean, she actually came to my local scout group in northolt, the 12th north. help. yeah, with no publicity, no fanfare, just sat there talking, talking to the scouts. and she was absolutely . i'm pretty sure was absolutely. i'm pretty sure she's a west london girl, so, you know, but she's absolutely great. but compare that with this nonsense with i mean, i see meghan is now losing enormous amounts of money with her california jam product scheme. >> oh, right. yeah. >> oh, right. yeah. >> nobody wants to buy it . >> nobody wants to buy it. >> nobody wants to buy it. >> i mean, it's amazing because i thought she was going to become a great feminist and champion of downtrodden women. oh, let me do that by making pots of jam.

>> i have no idea why we're doing that. >> yeah, yeah, they're a real feminist doing it and doing it. >> i was very surprised she wasn't waiting while kamala came off the stage last night. because that's the sort of thing. yeah, exactly. exactly. yeah. >> and stephen pound bought me a house of lords apron last time he was in, and i one day i will wear it on the. >> that is very sexist because i have, i have a house of lords apron at home so i could have done with a new one. stephen mine is purple. >> i'm the only one who hasn't got one. stephen >> thank you, thank you. the two. mr p's right still to come. it's back. british farming day. rightly so. but will, what will? labour's changes mean? particularly in regards to tax for farmers? don't go anywhere. this is

>> very good morning to you from the newsroom . back to andrew and the newsroom. back to andrew and bev in just a moment. first though, a look at the headlines this hour. labour is facing mounting pressure from within

its own ranks to reverse cuts to the winter fuel payment after 50 of its own mps abstained or were absent from yesterday's commons vote. the policy, which will see 10 million pensioners lose the payment, has sparked backlash, with some labour mps warning they'll keep pushing for a u—turn. charities and opposition parties say the cut could leave older people choosing between heating and eating. this winter. well this morning our political editor christopher hope , asked editor christopher hope, asked the chancellor, rachel reeves, if the looming october budget could be more bad for news pensioners. >> we've committed to those bus passes, to free tv licences for those entitled and free prescriptions, but we've also committed to the triple lock not just for one year but for the duration of this parliament and that means that pensioners will continue to rise by whichever is higher, 2.5% inflation or average earnings. and that means that pensioners have £900 more this winter , and likely another this winter, and likely another £460 from next april . £460 from next april. >> no fault evictions could soon

be history as the government prepares to ban section 21 evictions, the renters rights bill, set to be introduced today, promises sweeping changes today, promises sweeping changes to protect england's 11 million renters. it will also force private landlords to take further action on unsafe housing conditions. the deputy prime minister angela rayner, says the bill will overhaul renting and tackle unfair practices. but landlords are warning the reforms must be fair to both sides . 11,000 patients are being sides. 11,000 patients are being traced and contacted after receiving incorrect blood test results. a testing issue at luton and dunstable university hospital may have to led misdiagnosis of diabetes. the affected patients from luton, south bedfordshire and hertfordshire will be invited for tests. the trust has apologised and urged people not to call the hospital unless they're contacted directly, while an investigation is underway , and ukraine's prime underway, and ukraine's prime minister has called on the uk

for help and support using long—range mish long—range missiles against russian targets. during a meeting with the foreign secretary today , the foreign secretary today, david lammy and the us secretary of state, antony blinken will also meet with president zelenskyy to discuss kyivs needs in its ongoing fight against moscow. their joint visit follows reports that us president joe biden will lift a ban on british storm shadow missiles being used on russian territory after iran supplied ballistic missiles to russia. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report. >> well, let's take a quick look at the markets for you at 11:30. the pound will buy you $1.3085

and ,1.1852. the price of gold £1,927.29 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 8204 points. >> cheers, britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> welcome back to britain's newsroom with andrew and bev. so as labour's first budget approaches, businesses across the country are fearful that those with the most assets will be hit hardest. >> now let's think about farmers, because the average age of a farmer is 63. but many don't even achieve the minimum wage. and if death duties return to family businesses like farms for the first time, many may not survive. as our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie reports, in a minute, let me just show you before you play this video. >> we've been sent this. i'd like to say i got you a present, andrew, but i haven't. well, that would be a first. it's from the national farmers union. and look at this. it's wonderful.

they've sent us some fantastic british produce here. yes, there is some brilliant snowdonia cheese. black bomber. love that. some tea. we like that, don't we? >> what? she doesn't realise, bev, is we're going to share this with the staff. it's not for all her name on it. >> these are my favourite sourdough crackers and some wonderful british made strawberry jam. so you watch this video from dougie beattie and we'll have a little snack, shall we? think we might . shall we? think we might. >> sam hannah is a third generation farmer who will eventually take over the business. but to stay competitive, he is hard to put in substantial investment. >> milking parlour buildings and all would have been 300 to 350,000. we've invested. i had a loan for 100,000 on it to, try to improve the farm, make it more economic and more beneficial towards us going forward. we already pay our income tax each year, and our assets are also included in our income tax each year. so if we

have more assets or more , stock have more assets or more, stock or more, machinery, that's all taken into our tax bill. so if we're going on to an inheritance tax or going that direction, why should we be spending tax on stuff that's already been taxed every year? >> in 1974, harold wilson scraped into power. he immediately settled with the unions. but to pay the bill, he introduced the capital transfer tax , designed to tax those with tax, designed to tax those with assets. family, businesses and farms were hit the hardest and this drove up the price of food and hampered economic growth. in 1986, thatcher's government reversed the policy. but if it returns , who will benefit the returns, who will benefit the most? >> if you find that small farms and farmers are going to have to sell off land, who's going to buy it? the people who want to be virtuous and say, we're offsetting our carbon output by

having trees planted on ground or buying land or whatever. it's big companies who are going to do that. odd that a labour government that says it wants to curtail big business, and the worst aspects of big business could actually be through its tax policy. the government that enhances the power of big business. >> many farmers get less than the minimum wage and the return of death duties could be the final blow for these farming families. >> if we had to pay an inheritance tax at the end, it would cripple it. it would, the money isn't there to do it. as i say, we're asset rich, cash poon say, we're asset rich, cash poor, and if you take them assets away, you have no farm at the end of it. >> dougie beattie gb news, county down. >> save our farmers. we have to. we do. i've been testing andrew on his sheep, and i have a

terrible admission knowledge. i recognise a few of these because i've been to the big sheep down in north devon. i've sat there with the kids, having been educated. and what did you say when i said i have to confess? >> i said, they're all lamb chops to me. >> but that's okay for the farmers . we need lamb, lamb, farmers. we need lamb, lamb, british lamb and a leg of lamb is my favourite british beef. yeah. >> so although when i see baby, baby lambs, i do think as opposed to the adult lambs. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the baby lambs because they. well, yeah. but by british i keep now every time look, look for the label by british support our farmers that they need us. >> they really do. they really do. right. still to come, you will never guess how many wildfires we have in the uk. we're going to be talking in a minute to a group of british students who've been for ifor ai for a design of a product that will them. don't go anywhere.

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right. >> richard, alexandra and karina. gennady who were just telling us how to pronounce their names are in the studio. they have won a very important award from the very famous entrepreneur, sir james dyson. >> it's all to do with detecting wildfires. shocked to me that there are up to 9000 in 3 years in this country. that'd be about right. so what put you onto it? and what does your system do? >> well, so we've been seeing what is happening in brazil right now with wildfires growing so much and so fast. and then we start to realise that wildfires actually in the next until the end of the century is going to be very big on tropical forests and the arctic circle. so by understanding this, we start to think, okay, how we can help remote communities to have an affordable solution for detecting wildfire early to make it controllable. >> and what and what is it, kanna? >> and what and what is it, karina? what have you made? >> yes. so piri is an early wildfire detection system. and what sets it apart from everything else is that it's bio inspired and bio based. and so

the goal is to create something thatis the goal is to create something that is affordable, accessible, but also sustainable. we're trying to protect the forest. we might as well not continue to pollute it as well. >> and so what actually is it? what how does it detect what heat smoke is it is it wi—fi connected? does it send a signal to somebody okay. >> so i can show you this is our model. on >> so i can show you this is our model. oh look how small that is. >> that looks like a rock. >> that looks like a rock. >> you might just kick that around the forest floor. or a doorstop, like an acorn , actually. >> yep. so we were inspired by pinecones and the way pinecones release their seeds is they've adapted to their fire prone environments . and what happens environments. and what happens is a resin is closing a seed case. that resin melts when a fire happens, releasing its seeds. and so inside of our piri pod, there is something that melts. and when it melts, it sends a signal out. and that's how you locate it. >> now you're from imperial college, great science base. and the other college, royal college of art. so this is a great combination. science and art.

yeah >> so it's important because then we can connect, not just create innovative solutions, but understanding the human context and how the system that we're going to need to implement it together. so art and design. >> so how many of these would you need to put in a forest to detect the wildfire? >> we're working on that right now. we're trying to work towards a field to test exactly determine that number. but what we can say is that the coverage you need per kilometre squared is really, really affordable. we think a lot cheaper than the competitors. >> and who owns the patents . >> and who owns the patents. importantly, who's the patent owner? hopefully you two. yes >> oh owner? hopefully you two. yes >> on very good, very good. that's very good. >> and so how much would it cost do you think roughly approximately to protect perhaps the forest of dean. >> yeah. so we're still working on it. but all the materials inside of it, like i said, are abundant. and affordable. these are things like wax and charcoal. so they're really , charcoal. so they're really, really cheap. so we're seeing something where each unit for

example, is probably going to be less than £10. on example, is probably going to be less than £10. oh gosh, that's superb. >> and will you supply these presumably to governments. i mean they're your best customers . mean they're your best customers. this is literally the best business model ever isn't it. >> yeah. yeah. it's affordable. >> yeah. yeah. it's affordable. >> we need it. and the government will buy it. >> and by the way, where do we invest? >> it suddenly got taken a bit of a dragon's den turn here. yeah, exactly. but what does happen next in terms of development of the product for you? >> so the next year is we are going for the field test. so now we are going to crunch all these numbers to guarantee that it works in the environment and how much it's going to cost. and the manufacturability. and then we are planning for having the pilots with national parks in two years. >> so and what how do they detect the fires now or don't they. >> well, it's quite a big challenge today because the solutions that we have like satellites, it only works when the fire is already too big and mostly uncontrollable most of the times. so today is not there isn't like a very affordable system for remote communities or big national parks. >> tell me about the

competition. how many other competitors were there and what is the prize for the dyson award? >> we actually don't know how many competitors there were, but for winning the uk national award , which is what we won award, which is what we won today, it's £5,000. >> and what do you do? you can you spend that on yourself on a nice holiday, or does it have to be ploughed into the product? >> i think there's no strings attached. oh, have a holiday. it's well go on. >> she's a businesswoman . >> she's a businesswoman. >> she's a businesswoman. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you need your holiday before because you've got a big stressful period ahead developing the product. >> exactly . actually, we need to >> exactly. actually, we need to protect those national parks for having holiday in the future. so the money is going everything for free right now, right. >> and are you looking for investors? is that the next stage in terms of the testing. and then you look for somebody to help you fund it? >> that's correct. so we are looking for investors right now to guarantee that we can make it up. >> so what is that programme. dragons den are you next is next stop dragons den. >> yeah. maybe you're not going to need it.

>> people are going to be queuing up to help. >> james dyson is an extraordinary figure, controversial in many ways, but in a great inventor. have you met him or will you get to meet him? >> not yet. so we are working very closely with the james dyson award, the james dyson foundation, that i've been very kind to help us understand how he can bring it up. so we are very happy for this award. >> well, he's probably one of our greatest entrepreneurs. yeah. >> there's no doubt about it. what's what's your background? both of you. where are you both from originally and how long have you been studying in this country, >> so our program was the past two years, but before that, i was in san francisco, and my background is mechanical engineering. okay. >> so my background is design strategy. before coming here, i was living in the americas, a few countries. there and yeah, so i've been here for the past two years. >> so when you finish your studies, is this going to be a british based business? you're going to build it here. you're not going to take it back to america. on we want you to come back. we're staying here. >> we're staying here.

>> we're staying here. >> but we also probably are going to see, since it's such a global problem , where else we global problem, where else we will open? >> but yeah, definitely a london similar there at the moment. >> no . and where did the idea >> no. and where did the idea originally come from? how did you what was the germ of it for you? >>i you? >> i think we had two tracks. the first one really understanding how these unprepared communities are going to need some affordable solutions. and then it started, started there understanding the materials, how we could bring the price lower for preparing them. and then we started to look on nature and how pinecones work. very nature deals with fire. and then that was actually our big inspiration and never a shortage of pinecones. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and it's so interesting here because you've also raised awareness of the fact that we have fires in this country that we, we weren't aware of. >> well, if we had a guess , i >> well, if we had a guess, i was asked by the producers, how many do you think? >> i said 30, yeah. >> i said 30, yeah. >> i said maybe 100. wild fires every year. >> 9000 staggering. and that number is going up. presumably climate change. and also people are careless. exactly >> it's a global problem. we are

talking about tropical forests all over the world. we are talking about arctic circle forest that nobody guessed. that could have a lot of wildfires . could have a lot of wildfires. we are seeing brazil now, an area that's three times the size of london being completely destroyed in couple of months. so it's a big problem. >> well, look, congratulations. you are the award winning team, richard alexander and karina lisa nandy. and we hope the product stays in britain and becomes its great british success. and i want your number so i can invest in it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> from little acorns, if you pardon the pun. yeah. oak trees grow. >> lovely. thank you so much . >> lovely. thank you so much. congratulations, guys, right. still to come, sir keir starmer takes on rishi sunak at pmqs at midday. you can hear the questions that we would ask him in just a minute. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. it feels more like

october or november out there today. a distinctly chilly winds, a few sunny spells, but also most places seeing plenty of showers. here's the reason why. low pressure sitting up to the north—east and north or north westerly winds bringing the air down, bringing that chill and bringing plenty of showers. packing in over northwest england, extending down to the midlands, north and west wales , northern and western west wales, northern and western parts of scotland, parts of eastern england, southwest england and southeast scotland may not see any. showers could stay largely dry and bright here, but elsewhere expect showers to come and go and everywhere you can expect to feel the chill temperatures struggling into the mid teens. at best, it feels even colder with that wind, which will be quite gusty, particularly close to the showers. a few are likely to the showers. a few are likely to filter down towards the southeast through this evening, and maybe the southwest as well, but lots of showers for wales, northwest england coming and going across northern ireland, northeast england , southeast northeast england, southeast scotland may well be mostly dry

through the afternoon, but the showers continuing to come in across northern and western scotland, where the winds are strongest . and it really does strongest. and it really does feel chilly out here and it's going to be a pretty cold evening and an even colder night. we'll continue to see some showers drifting in over north and west wales, northwest england, but they should tend to ease across the midlands. showers keep going in northern scotland, but many areas just becoming clear. the winds will ease a touch as well and that will allow those temperatures to drop 5 or 6 degrees. that's towns and cities. many rural areas not far off freezing. in fact below across a good part of rural scotland. so yes, a real chill for thursday morning . chill for thursday morning. another day of sunshine and showers, but not as many showers. still plenty for north and west wales and northern scotland, but a drier day for south—west scotland, northwest england and again much of the east will be dry and fine . east will be dry and fine. chilly, but the winds won't be as strong tomorrow . as strong tomorrow. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers, sponsors of weather

gb news. >> well, we're going now to gloria de piero and chris hope for pmqs live and it is so good to be back with you, christopher. >> hope to be here in new session, new government. it's all exciting , but not about us all exciting, but not about us because we want to know what would our viewers and listeners be asking the prime minister today, or indeed the leader of the opposition? it's not about our questions. it's about what you think at home. so get sending them in. >> please send us your questions. tell us who you are and as importantly, where you're from. we'll put your questions to our panel gbnews.com slash yoursay pmqs live is all about you and particularly right now about you . bev and andrew about you. bev and andrew briefly, what would you both ask the prime minister, sir keir

starmer ? starmer? >> go on, you go. first. >>— >> go on, you go. first. >> i would ask the prime minister does he still agree with the labour party research in 2017, which suggested scrapping the winter fuel allowance would cause the premature death of 4000 pensioners? >> and i would probably ask him , >> and i would probably ask him, was he also popping champagne corks like those released prisoners yesterday at the pictures that we all saw all over the media, which were deeply shocking. >> those are the two issues of the week. andrew and bev correct. and let's see what the pm says to that at pmqs. well, thank you andrew, and thank you bev. it's fast approaching midday here in westminster. >> yes, this is gb news britain's news channel pmqs live starts right now . starts right now. the time is 1157. it is wednesday. the 11th of

september. this is pmqs live on gb news with gloria de piero and christopher haupe. >> in just one moment, sir keir starmer, the prime minister and rishi sunak, the leader of the opposition, go head to head at prime minister's questions. the last one before the party conference season will have full coverage every spit and cough, every moment of drama and we're getting full reaction from labour mp for dover and deal. mike tapp and shadow exchequer to the treasury gareth davies. >> and i'm going to start with our conservative spokesperson after saying welcome to you both. obviously, can i ask you if you were holding the prime minister to account today on behalf of the conservative party, what would you want to know? what would you ask him? >> well, we'd be doing it on behalf of the country and the electorate. >> and quite frankly, there's quite a lot to go on. we could ask him about the £300 commitment before the election to cut everybody's energy bills, where that's at, when energy bills are now going up by 10%. but i think the only game in town this week is, of course, winter fuel payments, there are

literally millions of people across the country who want to understand this decision, this choice by this labour government to take that payment away. >> that's right, mike, that's one issue. the other one is champagne popping, freed lags, photographed yesterday and filmed by gb news all day . filmed by gb news all day. thinks someone might try and put that one back on the tory party >> look, we inherited a full prison system and then we went into a period of unrest in some of our towns and cities that we needed to deal with. and so we've dealt with that. we've come down hard on those perpetrators and put them in prison. but of course, we need to free up space because we've inherited a system with no space for the winter fuel payments. >> let's talk about that very uncomfortable vote for many labour mps. yesterday i used to be an mp. as you know. i know my email inbox would be grim. it would have been grim since that announcement was made . how did announcement was made. how did that make you feel looking at your emails from your constituents? >> i'm voting for it. how did it make you feel voting for it?

>> well, firstly, it was a difficult situation that we've been put in and it's a really difficult situation for the treasury to have to make this decision after coming into government and finding this hidden £22 billion black hole. so it's difficult and this will obviously ensure that it's means testing that benefit. and when it comes to our inboxes, it is tough for all mps. it comes to our inboxes, it is tough for all mps . but you know, tough for all mps. but you know, we've we've come into government. we have to deal with that. and it's making sure that we section out those that need our help immediately so that we can advise them on some of the help that they can get. and there is lots of options for that. essentially >> but the politics gareth davies i mean, you've been you were you've been the treasury and you're shadowing the treasury now, you know, these ideas are put forward by civil servants, but taking away £300 from 10 million voters is quite a tough message to sell. >> yes. and i was in the treasury. i was minister responsible for helping support people like pensioners. i know the decisions that you have to make and it is sometimes difficult, but i think what the pubuc difficult, but i think what the public are struggling to understand is how, on the one hand, you can have massive pay

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