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they act to establish a ceasefire. the united nations relief and works agency, which has sheltered nearly 800,000 displaced people in gaza in about 15 overcrowded centers, has announced that the number of un employees killed in gaza by the israeli army has reached 12. reached and now nearly 30 other employees of mel organization are also injured. ali rajabi kharbari, united nations, new york. now we are at the service of mr. nasser nobari, a former diplomat and an expert on international issues. mr. nobari, hello, welcome to the world today. hello, i am at your service. meanwhile hello and the same greeting for dear viewers and apologies for the delay in my entry. the reason was the traffic and problems of tehran city.
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a few months ago, we were at your service in today's world. at that time, the war in gaza had not happened and we were talking about the transition of the world from its previous point of view to a new order. the equations have changed again . do you think the gaza war is new in line with the same change? in the name of allah, the merciful. yes, it is interesting that in the previous program we talked about the era and said that we are moving from a unipolar system to a multipolar one. and we even said that the present time is a sensitive and dangerous time, which is to prevent the occurrence of wars, and it is interesting that a third war happened from that program to this program, because until that program, only 2 wars had happened, one war.
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the war in ukraine, the war in the caucasus, the south caucasus, and now the third war has been added. within a short period of time, i think one or two of us actually made that prediction, so to complete our discussion, now this event has actually completed. the transition period is now a dangerous time . why? it is a dangerous time because a stable system that exists in the world, for example, in a unipolar model or a bipolar model or any model, when a system there has been stability, when it wants to transition from this system to another system, in fact, that stability system is lost, it becomes unstable, or as i called it, it becomes fluid, the global structure, i called it, the global structure becomes fluid during the transition period , that is, it becomes rigid. look outside, the best example is the same. some analysts say that war in
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this era has no results. if a war is waged , it will be ineffective, while this is not true . war in the era of a rigid global structure. the result is actually over, but the war is in transition by the way, it works, because i said that the global rigidity has disappeared, the global rigid structure has disappeared , it has become fluid , it has become unstable. this cannot be changed easily, but when the global structure weakens and becomes fluid, it can be changed more easily. therefore, those who say that war is no longer useful in the recent era and does not work, are wrong. in the transition period , it happens to work. look, the best example is war.
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torbagh the torbagh war took place during the bipolar and unipolar period when the soviet union collapsed. the first war of gharbagh happened, this time the arabs were successful in taking the territory of azerbaijan. take advantage of the opportunity. the world was not yet formed because the scleroderma was gone. after the collapse of the soviet union, those who now analyze that the war is futile cannot gain ground. the year of this green area happened after 30 years, that is, you for 30 years, nothing has happened in the solid unipolar world.
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but the world that has now fallen to the transition line, you will see it again after 30 years, this time the other side will attack you, fight, take land with war , yes, and it has taken land again, that is, azerbaijan has taken back its land this time, so you can see that a territorial war will take place in this era. they are characteristic of the era when a territorial war takes place and the result and result of this point that i said, now the war of akran is the next example. now a polar, two polar, three polar, although polar, but a stable world, a stable world, the possibility that these equations can be changed so easily and territorial development is created is impossible to see in order to make it clear to you in the transition world a century ago from the model of the european concert. it took about 30 years for the five powers to move towards the bipolar model that became
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the soviet union and the united states. it took about 30 years for the european concert model to become bipolar. what happened in these 30 years was two major world wars. why, because the structure had fallen apart, the world structure had fallen apart, and the countries at this time the structure will fall apart, they will start to compete, then the country that is more prepared will compete, develop and penetrate, the country that is less prepared, by the way, its possibilities will become less and more limited, and i think that is what happened in world war i and ii. the world powers keep changing and changing. this challenge continued until a bipolar world was achieved and stability was established. in other words, the world is in transition. it is a dangerous world, both a threat and an opportunity. for those countries that are alert, they have prosperity. they use the opportunity to develop infiltration threats for him
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the countries that are neglecting are not prepared and in fact they lose their positions and find limitations. now let me give you a small example so that the same thing happened to us in the caucasus. finding and because we got into a predicament and we actually felt that they are actually infiltrating our interests and we chose this exactly shows the equation , that is, we just realized that in this environment there is a contradiction and that we warned at the time that we are not ready to see the boundaries between images we will go back
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and continue the conversation with mr. nobari. mr. nobari , this is one of the conditions that existed before the gaza war. the world was ready for new developments to take place on october 7. yes. now see, one of the very clear and good examples for the transitional period is the gaza war. this model of gaza war is exceptional. it has been 70 years now that they have been fighting each other regularly. we had all kinds of wars between palestinians, israelis, arabs and all these wars. but this model that happened this time, the whole world says that it is exceptional. how could this model happen? it would not have happened in a stable global system. it was impossible, that is, it could not have been possible 10 years ago, it was impossible, this model, we had many wars in gaza, i don't know any more wars
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, 10 days, 15 days, 20 days, 20 days, none of this model . in the world at war, there is a difference between the current era and the era of a century ago when two world wars took place . it is a very interesting thing, an interesting feature, and that is the strategic balance system, the nuclear one, that is. during our period , we did not have tawaz and nuclear weapons, we did not have atomic bombs. today in the current world we have atomic bombs and nuclear weapons. from here we can discover how at that time the smallest difference led to a world war. but now , even though there are strong differences in the international scene and wars are happening, but it has not led to a world war
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yet and the wars are limited. what is the reason? the reason is that if the war in this period, for example, the ukraine war, if this war wanted to develop like a world war and so on. it will turn into a world war, an atomic war, and this atomic war means that the global atomic balance, the balance of nuclear weapons, will cause limited political units to operate, which means they will not develop much. their operations because the same thing that happened in eastern europe, for example, the americans and nato do not want a direct war with russia. this was not the case in the world a century ago , so it is easy to go to the end of the war and even a world war. 10 million killings going forward, but now all the units feel dangerous, if they go forward beyond a certain limit, it will cause a nuclear war, a nuclear war , the earth will be destroyed all together, that's why , because of the nuclear balance, you built the nuclear strategic balance
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of the war. in this period of limited transition , now look at the war in gaza, everyone is saying that it is limited let's keep it from developing. look, this formula of this model did not exist in the periodical wars of a century ago. for example, hitler would come to this conclusion . i will come to this conclusion. it was not a problem for moscow . pay attention, but now the whole world is at war, so that this war in gaza remains limited . . ok. now let's turn to the gaza war itself, if you allow me. yes. look. the war in gaza i am saying that this war in gaza is different from other wars. it is exceptional. features we can start from here. look. remember, you may hear a lot. mr. biden 30 years ago as an american strategist. that famous saying that if israel did not exist, we had to build an israeli for our own interests, we built america , so if there was an israeli
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, we would have to build an israel for our own interests, so now let's analyze the global conditions and different systems and global formulas and global factors that mr. biden's strategy was at that time. it comes to this formula that america needs an israel, if not, we should build one , so it means such a base in west asia . my question now is this. today, after 30 years , was that world a unipolar world? it is true that the unipolar world was ruled by america after the collapse of the soviet union. he said this sentence, now my question is this, after 30 years in the world today, today with the demands of the world today, do the same factors still exist for america, which he said at that time, based on those factors, we should not have built israel, are they still there? the same factors continue to exist. this question needs to be answered, but the approach of the americans with their unconditional and absolute support for israel
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seems to have the same idea. well , this completes the discussion. your question completes the discussion . first of all, those factors do not exist, why are they the world, as i said, it is a solid unipolar world it was america, the middle east was actually the energy center of the world, and in order for america to manage the world , it had to manage the energy center. the fact that it did not appear to challenge america's unipolar trend was corrected, and even russia had collapsed, which means that these two powers, which are now two major powers in front of america , did not exist until then with today's specifications and different systems. not following this model means that you are saying that america needs a regime now
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the zionist's need for this regime has decreased in the last 30 years, and the need for america to pay attention to other raqqas, which were not present then, has increased. they say that america wants to leave the middle east. what does this withdrawal mean? this is the change in the global coordinates, that is, the world that needed this to manage that world. america was present in the middle, things have changed, and this time america wants to leave the middle east . let it be and let it be diverted, the power is good the power that goes to another area should direct its power to china and other powers that are emerging , we have reached a good point.
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the main global leader is china, but for several years, america has been involved in ukraine and russia, and then it is possible that these conditions will pass a little and reach the main rival of china, but the issue of the zionist regime and its crisis has come up, and the regime itself says that this is an existential crisis for me and that it needs america. vaise next to it means that he is an american he wanted to confront china so that china does not become the super-tyrant of the bad times. now it is stuck in eastern europe and west asia . how will it proceed? fortunately, what you said is exactly what you are saying, that is, america is now stuck, which means that what has happened now is not in accordance with america's global strategy . now that america has brought a ship and is standing there , it is a strategic operation and it is not a strategic goal, but it was imposed on him, that is,
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he did not want to be in this situation and this situation is imposed. now, to see how it is imposed, pay attention when biden came two or three days after the war, netanyahu came to tel aviv airport to welcome him. what did netanyahu say to him in that welcome, that america is important with israel? what's worse is that you have now come to israel, what does this mean, you see , biden had been coming to work for netanyahu for 3 years. to tel aviv and mr. netanyahu to him he warned and said that it is more important than the fact that america is on israel
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's side that you are here now, for 3 years you did not allow me to enter the white house, now you yourself have come to israel , you have come to the land of israel. we were watching and you can see that everyone was happy that america was forced to abandon its policy of leaving the middle east and return to the middle east. well, now my question is about the same prisoners who are happy that america changed its strategy. it means that they are now happy that you said america with this power he came behind israel and stood up, so that means he has changed his strategy. he wanted to leave the middle east. well , the prisoners are also very good. now, what is the answer to this question? the answer to this question is: have those global strategic factors that forced america to withdraw from the middle east changed? are those factors following the equations of the middle east war ? or those factors are related to the global system and global competition of america with china and russia.
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these competitions have their place. so it turns out that this was an emergency for one , i would like it to end sooner right now, you are getting the answer step by step, and therefore, first of all, they are sure that it will not be developed, they are sure that they will not get stuck in their own feet, what is directly involved in its ending early , and they are definitely looking for it to be finished as soon as possible. do it, because you see that the global needs continue, in any case , it is happy that america is stuck here more, russia is happy that america is stuck here, well, on the contrary, america is looking to get out of its trap as soon as possible, so the happiness of the israelis is false. i want to say that the prisoners are happy . and a taunt to biden at last you didn't let us go, now you are forced to come and bring
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my ships, but what happened is not a strategic necessity for america, which has taken this action, it cannot change its strategy , because the world that has not changed, the world is changing, the world is changing. it still has the global needs for america, and now it is a problem that has to be solved now . why is it so powerful ? why is it so powerful ? that this happened that this time you gaza means the war in gaza happened. israel itself says that this war is the revival of israel, the second war of israel's independence . it can't say why because what happened in the operation that hamas did shook the whole fundamental principle of israel. what is the fundamental principle of israel?
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that we are a safe area here, this is a safe area, jews of the world, come here, this is the best place to settle down, well, this idea is gone, that idea is gone , that's why i'm not saying, it's not my opinion that the foundation of israel has actually been shaken by this action , netanyahu says, isn't he saying? this is the second war of independence i mean, he compares this with the war 70 years ago, when israel is important, you see, now in israel, people are looking to buy the original lehn, they are worried that i am sleeping at night now , if someone comes to our house in the middle of the night, he will attack us, for example , see. for those who have their homes and lives in europe, america, or other places, they finally have tidy houses, leave them for a better place, and now find themselves in a situation where
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they sleep with worry every moment of the night . they are looking to buy weapons. i don't remember, i think it was around 600 or 700 thousand guns buying aslai families to defend them , look now, so that these israelis have security. being forced to stay away from the border is not being forced to stay away from the border with lebanon so that they don't get fired from the border with gaza . those people who have no place to live after this tragedy is over, after the crisis is over, those who have the opportunity will go , the ones who are going to go, and they will go, so you see , our foundation has been shaken by this hamas operation.
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unfortunately, we are at the end of the program. we have less than 3 minutes. how do you think these developments will proceed ? yes , let's see. now, please, this is a 30-minute question, not a 3-minute question . it's an important question, but before i answer your question, i'll try to answer it faster because it's important to see the future. you see, for the future of the americans or the europeans, everyone is looking for a two- state model, something that has been discussed for decades. but israel has never accepted why they say, sir, we spread these palestinians to the size of a small strip, we surrounded them there, we can't, they will come between us at any moment, now if they have a government and a government, that is, israel , they will see it as a conflict with their own existence, the two-state model , the abraham peace model as well.
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now you have seen that it doesn't work, it means that israel can be friends with saudi arabia, but it explodes there, so that won't work either, but the americans need stability here, because of the transitioning world, they don't get stuck again, they don't have to say again, why did you ask now with so much power? come to ride let's talk about it. see, whoever wants to ride the crisis must come to the crisis first, you understand, that means he should take all the work, he should take all the security in his hand so that he can ride, so that he can manage. let's create a government, two governments, one jewish government, one government, one islamic government. well , why are they giving this theory, the same ones who in the west and in america have a secular position and say that governments should be secular. how come those who say governments should be secular, here they are twisting a version of religious government, that is, religious government, a jewish government and a
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the government means, you see, exactly in contradiction with the ideas of the westerners, while the best model for solving this crisis is a secular government. i think the debate is really becoming a martyr. i can invite you right now for tomorrow night too, let's continue the conversation tomorrow night, and don't be a pity because we were using it, i want to do it tonight, there was little time tonight. i will say goodbye to khabar network. tomorrow night, i will talk to mr dr. novari, we will continue. you are welcome.
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this burn in this meat was caused by phosphorous, a substance whose bombs have been dropped on the heads of palestinian civilians about 10 times since the beginning of the zionist regime's genocide in gaza about a month ago , while the use of phosphorous bombs after the first world war it was banned and according to the 1980 geneva convention, white phosphorus should not be used as a weapon in civilian areas. now these prohibited weapons have been given to the zionists by the us to continue the genocide. allahu akbar. this substance is exposed be oxygen they beat and burn. and this is the reason why zionists use these bombs for genocide. now, if only a small amount of this amount
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of phosphorus falls on a human body , it will be killed in less than 10 minutes because it has a temperature of about 2760 degrees celsius. some experts say: phosphorus bombs can be used as anti-armor weapons, because their high heat pierces tank armor. now imagine that these bombs have been dropped about 10 times on the heads of civilian men and women in the past month, especially in all the wars in gaza, from the 22nd day until today, which has been around 20 years. that the zionists use these corrections . lemdars and the fate of civilians and palestinian children in these bombings. sajjad mehdari, sed and sima news reporter.
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