[000:00:30;00] in the name of god, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world. today, in the round table of tonight's program, with the presence of mr. masoud shajare and fouad yazidi , we will examine the policies of the british and american governments in supporting the genocide of the zionist regime, contrary to the opinion of the people of these countries, but before that

i would like to draw your attention to the latest news and pictures of the seizure of the israeli ship that was published by the yemeni resistance. yesterday, sanratullah yamman seized a commercial ship belonging to the zionist regime in the red sea. brigadier general yahya seri, the spokesman of the yemeni armed forces , announced at the same time as the seizure of this ship until the end encroachment on the gaza strip

, we continue military operations against the zionists. allah akbar, death of americans, death of israel , death of israel, death of jews , death of islam. the ship belonging to the zionist regime and targeting the southern regions of the occupied territories in the hands of the yemeni resistance has announced that the blockade against israel is being completed. 15 kilometers from the coast of the yemeni city of hodeidah , dadullah ashami, minister of public information of the national salvation government of yemen

, said that all the zionist ships that pass through the red sea are legitimate targets for the yemeni resistance. now, in order to examine the messages and consequences of the seizure of the zionist ship on the coast of yemen , i would like to speak with mr. hossein royvaran, an expert on west asian issues. there were several cases, the most recent of which was the seizure of this ship by the yemeni resistance the images that have been published show that the heliburn helicopter was used

and the ship was seized in this way. in your opinion , what message does the entry of the yemeni resistance to such a point in the face of the zionists have ? it has an important message and that is that if the zionist regime continues with its crimes in gaza, the port of eilat in the southern door of occupied palestine will be completely out of order, because most of the ships that go to and from the port of eilat from the sea sarkha and with this threat that yemen has made, it is practically part of the relationship the maritime economy of the zionist regime with south asia , southeast asia and east africa is practically out of business

, and this is a threat to the economy of the zionist regime anyway. now let's put this together with the rest of the actions of the resistance front, for example the actions that hezbollah is taking every day and the actions and actions that the lebanese resistance and the iraqi resistance have taken against the american bases. you can see what might happen . the zionist regime has defined a series of goals, but none of them have been realized. he did not, while the resistance succeeded in carrying out the maneuver to liberate the land, he has 300 prisoners, now he is destroying more than 20 to 40 tanks and personnel carriers of the zionist regime

, the zionist regime announced yesterday that it has taken the northern part of the gaza strip from hamas. it has been cleared, since this morning, three or four rockets have fired from this point by chance. this shows that the zionist regime has no authority in the north of gaza, and this is the resistance, which can do whatever it wants, so watch the killing. people is a very painful and criminal work, but eq it is not an instrument, it does not create any equation, the only thing that the zionist regime is doing from these genocidal crimes is that it is a deterrent to confronting this regime, and this is while we

are witnessing the expansion of confronting this regime from the entire axis of resistance. and this goal has not been realized. thank you. i talked with hossein roibran, an expert on west asian issues. the statistics of the cities of the zionist attacks on gaza reached more than 1,300 people. 560 martyrs were children and 850 were women. last night, the zionists attacked the indonesian hospital in the north of gaza, the spokesman of the gaza ministry of health says that this hospital, like the shifa hospital

, has turned into a zionist military barracks. referring to the tightening of the siege of the indonesian hospital, this palestinian official says that the bodies of the martyrs are piled on top of each other, and despite the zionist attacks , it is not possible to get the wounded out of the hospital. make the day different for palestinian children. with the attack on a school in al-babrij camp in gaza, the palestinian ministry of education announced with a reminder of the day children's world so far, more than 550 children

have been martyred in the gaza strip, of which 3,000 were students. a school full of palestinian refugees whose blood became the pavement of its halls. in the latest zionist attack on schools, at least one person was martyred and dozens of people were injured, but the indonesian hospital in gaza continues to be attacked by airstrikes around this hospital, and the encirclement ring is being tightened with the tanks of the zionist regime and direct fire by snipers. god willing, the fighters of the 3rd regime did not spare the residential areas and 100 people were martyred in these attacks. and answer

rockets of palestinian resistance groups. the zionists announced the death of soldiers in heavy clashes with the qassam battalions and the retreat from some axes in gaza and the north of this city. as netanyahu's chief advisor is in the conversation with bay for the defeat of hamas in the gaza war. i think it is unrealistic to think that we can end hamas as an ideology. from the developments related to the other front on the borders of lebanon, the headquarters of the 9th division of the zionist regime and the military barracks of the zionists were targeted by hezbollah's berkan missiles, their warheads weigh between 300 and 500 kg, you are rouhani. the director of the military cemetery in the occupied territories revealed that the statistics of the army in the war against gaza are much higher than the figures that

are officially announced. barkh informed about the high number of burials of military personnel in the military cemetery and said that on average we are faced with a corpse every one to one and a half hours. at the same time, the spokesman of the zionist army said: gaza is one of the most complicated areas for war. god is great, know, know, know, say, god is great

, then. today , the media of the zionist regime reported about the targeting of the occupying forces between gaza city and the middle eastern province of the gaza strip. the arrival of danger in the zionist military settlements, the islamic jihad movement, by publishing pictures of its own missile attacks, has announced the occupied settlements and military bases and the occupying forces , which entered the gaza strip with rockets , and on the other front, the lebanese hezbollah. with heavy barkan missiles, the headquarters of the 91st division of the zionist regime and the branit military barracks were targeted . the zionist regime's media announced that since this morning , about 40 shooting operations have been carried out from lebanese soil towards the bases of the zionist regime. gaza

leaders of the brics member states will discuss the gaza crisis in a virtual meeting tomorrow, tuesday. this meeting will be hosted by the president of south africa as the head of the brics group, the leaders of brazil, russia, india, china and south africa, as well as iran, saudi arabia, egypt, the united arab emirates, ethiopia and argentina, who have recently joined brics, will also attend. in this meeting, the speaker. to have antonio guterres, the secretary general of the united nations , has been announced as one of the speakers of this meeting. but palestinian supporters gathered in front of the white house. the demonstrators said that palestine and gaza should be freed from the sea to the river. that they also protested the us government's policy of supporting the zionist regime and described biden as a liar

. and the news that was published recently and just reached me is that the al jazeera network has announced that it is too much. and the head of the political office of hamas discussed the developments in gaza and the talks about the prisoners. the zionist television has also announced that israel has given a green light for the release and exchange of evenings, and is waiting for

the epic response. this news has just been published. well, as i said at the beginning of the program, now the host is mr. fayad izadi, an expert on american issues, and also mr. masoud shajareh, the head of the human rights center. we are islamic in london. i greet both of our correspondents in london and new york. they prepared reports regarding the difference between the position of public opinion in these two countries and what was the official policy of this government. first

, let's see our reporter's report from london. we will start our conversation with the gaza war and the widespread support of the people in england for the palestinian cause in particular. after the untimely barrages of the zionist regime in gaza , the most densely populated area in the world , it has created a big gap between the people of a number of their representatives and the leaders of the two major parties . we want a ceasefire and an end to the occupation palestine. this is our most important request. what our government and party leaders do not want to hear. we do not want the government in our name. i am very angry and i am deeply saddened and suffering. in the labor party, 11 members of the cabinet of the shadow government have resigned and 56 mps along with

dozens of representatives of the city councils have strongly rejected the position of the leader of this party in support of the continuation of the invasion of gaza. to give. in the ruling conservative party, the main party that supports israel, 60 representatives acted against the opinion of the leader of this party, osunak, and supported the continuation of the war. gaza did not vote yes. in the latest report, the nazarji yoga institute announced: 76 british people want an immediate ceasefire in gaza. that has been quite evident in the demonstrations of hundreds of thousands of people in the british capital in the last five weeks. even prisoners have rights. do the people of gaza, who are all prisoners, have no rights? they should not

have water, they should have electricity. have food aren't they human? is it the human rights that are constantly brewing from it? it does not grant any rights to the people of gaza. see what people are singing in this prayer? they say stop killing women and children. let water and food reach the people of gaza. i say to the governors and representatives, is this too much demand that you oppose? the loss of innocent human lives is unbearable and we cannot stand by. and let the majority of parliamentarians be indifferent to the killing of palestinians. we want people's opinion to be recognized. the war in gaza has also challenged western democracy. different groups of british people from different religions and nationalities have repeatedly

expressed their anger and disgust with the zionist regime and its supporters by holding large-scale demonstrations. express. mojtaba ghasmad khabarari sedav and cima, london. well , i will start the conversation with mr. shajere. mr. shajere , we saw in your report that according to the latest opinions , 76 of the british people are in favor of an immediate ceasefire in gaza. but we see that the government of this country is still supporting the continuation of the genocide in gaza, along with their parliament, which voted a few days ago. in this liberal democracy, which is supposed to represent public opinion in various domestic and foreign issues , why does the political system go in one direction and public opinion in another direction? one of the corrections of analogy is one of the things that we are witnessing that is happening.

a strange distance between the people of the world in the west and their conservative politics means this so-called. the idea that this is a democracy and that these people come to implement the people's wishes has really disappeared. it is an absurd discussion and this is not the only issue. it is another issue that these people read and comment that their policy is tolerant and they consider the national interests, the economic interests, and the interests of the country. as you look, you see that there is no economic reason in this crime, there is no national reason, there is no question of freedom, no question of human rights, so we have to ask what happened to

create such a situation where the majority of people are realistic about the truth. they come to the streets and buildings with visionary justice, and they follow the so-called secular politics , nothing can be said, nothing can be justified unless we say that they are following their own personal interests they see the term of their political future in this. to support the evil zionist government because that system of favoring this so-called zionist government allows them to be elected twice. therefore, the only way we can stop such programs is to harm the political future of this tolerant policy. let's hit if we can in the elections.

in the future, we should even fire 30 of them, 40 of them, because of their support for war crimes, this spell will be broken, and we will no longer see politicians acting against the national interests of the people. if they support the jinn and the killing of women and children, it means that you, as one of the human rights activists in england who are based in london, and the rest of the activists, now have an agenda that you will take this policy from the labor and conservative parties that they have. they support genocide in the next elections, it will have consequences for them and this can in any case bring about some changes in the future . 100 look at the calculations that we have done , they have changed the votes of 35 of the mps with some people and the places where the muslims and

the rest of the minority there are many more of them, we can really destroy the political future of these people , and if we can't do this and don't do this story that a few people only defend war, murder, and child murder, thank you very much, mr. izadi. america, let us ask you about this confrontation of the public opinion of the people with the official apparatus of the country in politics how has the foreigner gone about the war in gaza during this time? yes, in the name of god, the most merciful, the most merciful, the same statistics exist in the united states, that is, we now have 522. recently, nbc is from yesterday. 52% of the american people, who are the majority, are against this type of support from the entire biden government.

they are zionists, at the age of 18 to 32, this number reaches 70 %, that is, the same is true of young people in england. basically , there are many reasons for young people, which we can talk about if you want. what western governments are doing is more images these young people and the simultaneous gatherings that you are talking about are being broadcast, but i want to add this point that liberal democracy is what you see in gaza and this is the history of liberal democracy. it's not like what is happening in gaza is something unusual. since the year 149, when the era of colonialism began, and the europeans, many of whom were english, moved towards the north american region , committed the same type of crimes, produced the same corpses

, and from that year, which was 500 years ago, until today, crimes and killing and killing and occupation and this generation the massacre that you are currently seeing in gaza has continued, and the discussion of liberalism, democracy , freedom, and human rights was also at the same time as a crime. islamic and southern countries and non-european countries will be fascinated by the west because they see that the west has progress anyway, those slogans will help them not to consider this criminal history and become westerners, which has also had an effect, that is, one percent of the intellectuals of our country. they are westerners. how can

a person be a westerner if he has not read 149? is it a crime? he has not seen westerners in africa, latin america , asia, and other places. if he has not read the history of palestine, how can a person become a westerner ? why is it that because of the propaganda that there is something called liberalism, there is something called democracy, you don't have us? we have and we should be your example . accepting this is a good question because if there is a democracy, why do the majority of people not only follow a policy when they don't like it? biden had written in washington post fairy day a verbatim repetition of one the word that at the end of this crime, from my servant's words, this process, which is now called, says that we will witness a stronger middle east

, which reminds me of the literature of the bush era, as they say, we want a greater model. we want to grow up, and the crimes they committed in lebanon in 206 and the widespread bombings of the 33-day war, saying the pain of childbirth is the pain of childbirth . they really believe in liberal democracy in the sense that you have to reach you use any means for your goals and there is no limit to these goals in front of everyone, and in the history of the west, this has been the case for 500 years now, the era of colonialism has begun in its various forms, the traditional colonialism of what the british did in india, this is colonialism. or the use of urbanization, what the americans did with the red-skinned people in europe, by making the europeans red-skinned

in palestine, the europeans who were zionists in palestine, for this reason, these things that you see are the last stage of the colonial era, that is, the palestinian region, the last place. it is that colonialism is still present the people who are your audience have not seen the british colonial experience in india or the american colonialism in the philippines or the french colonialism in algeria for example. it has been repeated that what the french are doing in algeria is more or less similar to what the israelis are doing in gaza. of course, the number of children in gaza now is a record.

it has been the united nations, it has been the wars of inver, today is interesting he had come and compared the numbers of other wars and what happened in gaza , of course, because he believes in liberal democracy , he is still not ready to put israel in the list of children's collections, while admitting that the amount of children he killed in gaza they have become very widespread. he is not taking the last step that he should take as the secretary general of the united nations because he believes in liberal democracy. well, this is something and the explanation that was passed, but why are they doing such a thing in america, anyway, there are consequences for them. public opinion right now, different media even the european media say that the continuation of this policy will facilitate the continuation of this war in front of the eyes of the world, the superiority of the power of the united states and the west, why do these politicians say that in the middle of such a position, now in the united states, the same opinion that you mentioned, the way that i

have in mind among the democrats, support the fire bes 88 means the supporters of the independent government. 80% of them want this war to stop, but the government is still adamant , why are they going this way, american politicians, look at one reason, this was your last sentence, the decline of america is gradually progressing, and american officials believe that if hamas and the people palestine you know hamas, they say they mean the palestinian people, but because i can't say, the palestinian people say hamas because hamas is a part of the palestinian people. if the palestinian people win in this confrontation , the victory of the palestinian people is also that they don't lose, that means they stay, stay, if they stay. now, the reason they are committing genocide, for example, why are they bombing the hospital, why