21 minutes and sharia midnight will be at 23:22. thank you for your cooperation. i invite you to be a viewer of today's economy table . i will greet you with the performance of my colleague mr. azaribagha. hello, mrs. hosseini, also greetings and politeness and respect to the service of dear viewers, welcome to the economy table. in today's program , we discuss the opposing and favorable opinions about the formation of the ministry of commerce and examine whether the formation of this ministry at all. is it the need of the country or not? of course, our opportunity in khabar network has ended. of course, our opportunity in channel 1 has ended. see the economy table.

you are the viewer of the economic table. the leader of the revolution recently emphasized on real competition as one of the pillars of the election. in explaining the real competition, he said that the field should be open for the presence of various political, economic and cultural trends in the big election contest so that all views and perspectives in this field be active. one of the topics about which different views have been formed is the formation of the ministry of commerce. the parliament has discussed this issue in different periods, the last time was a month ago when the parliament decided that the formation of this ministry will be decided in 6 months. and it should be addressed at the economy table today with the presence of supporters and opponents , we will fully examine the issue of the formation of the ministry of commerce, but first a report on separating the commerce department from the ministry of mining industry and trade and re-establishing the ministry of commerce

, an issue that was agreed upon in previous years and there were objections. mohsen bahrami , a member of the delegation of the tehran chamber of commerce, says: the pathologies that have taken place show that the merger of these two ministries was a hasty decision and the revival of the ministry of commerce can solve some of the current problems. according to alireza kolahi rais tehran chamber of industry commission claims that the two ministries of commerce and industry and mining were not supported by accurate and correct planning in the past, and in a sense these two ministries were simply stitched together. in fact, the design of this asset integration was flawed. qasim nodeh farahani, the head of tehran chamber of asalaf, said: currently, some duties of the ministry of industry, mines, trade and agriculture overlap and the responsibility of these ministries is heavy. and this is in a situation where the revival of the ministry of commerce can reduce these interferences. mehdi fallah, an expert in agricultural economics, for the benefits of the plan to form the ministry

for importers, commerce considered it a threat to export and support domestic production and said that this action is completely to the detriment of domestic producers and the country's self-sufficiency. ahmadreza farshchiyan, a member of the tehran chamber of representatives, said: this separation will not benefit the activists of this sector. in fact, with this separation, the trade channel is separated from the industry, and the field of trade will not serve the industry as before. according to qabadian, the former vice president of education. the research and technology of the ministry of industry, mining and trade, the implementation of this plan, is pounding water in a mortar. it seems that those who seek to single out the commercial sector failed understand the foreign export development policy. i think it makes no sense to repeat the mistake we made before. haratian, sed and sima news agency. you are the viewer of the economy desk. i would like to introduce the guests of the program to you. mr. ali rizvani. zadeh, the head

of the agriculture commission of the iranian chamber of commerce and mr. mojtabi poyamahr, an economic expert , we have other guests that i will introduce to you during the service program, mr. rezvanizadeh, god bless you first , let us serve you first. you and dear colleagues, serving the noble people of iran and the last day of the year.

the activities that the private sector and in fact the economic community of the country witnessed in the past years before the year. 92 with the ministry of commerce and anyway, there are no problems, and perhaps we can say that most of the problems that we are witnessing today in the field of indiscipline in import and export and the embezzlements that are raised, these are the issues that we are reviewing in the past. we did not witness this during the time of the ministry of commerce. point 2: why are all of his duties transferred to another ministry of home affairs? this is another part of my petitions, which we have witnessed many times. we know that this matter was pursued in mr. raisi's government and in each of mr. rouhani's two governments, but

it was not welcomed and actually trusted by the parliament, perhaps because the regulatory bill that was presented lacked that structure. we needed a detailed and specific description of duties for the ministry of commerce. we have this structure , as you can see, in the past two years , when part of the market regulation in agricultural products has been given to the ministry of jihad and agriculture , it is because we do not have this structure. both the market has been removed from that regulation and the domestic farmer has suffered, in addition to the fact that the consumer is under pressure yes, this structure does not exist, and that regulatory bill, the deferment bill, does not even pay proper attention to the creation of a structure describing duties and responsibilities. an important point that i want to make is that based on

the global indicators of countries that are advanced and developed countries there are more than 7. in fact, the economy is the share of the commercial services sector, and you can see this number in developing countries, which is between 40 and 50 percent, and in backward or backward countries , the share of the economy and economy is less than 30 percent, and you see it in the commercial services sector. a part of this goes back to the negative view, which may have been very colorful in the past years, and there is a need to become a cultural work that we did not see the commercial sector as a driving engine and actually mover of production . we have always had a negative view of the commercial sector

. i would like to say that we heard mr. rezvanizadeh's speech, what is your opinion , do you agree with the formation. ministry of commerce or not, in the name of god, i say hello to my dear viewers and congratulate hazrat fatima zahra on the blessed birthday of hazrat fatima zahra, dear ladies of our islamic country, dear mothers of our country. and then, i would like to ask you to see that it has a historical precedent , if we look at the history of the establishment of the ministry of commerce. let's make it louder in the country . the claim and separation of the ministry of commerce has a history of about 115 years in this country . this happened 12 times

, about 11 times. but we had this structural change about 11 times in the last 115 years, that is, the period when the ministry of commerce was. everything was right and the complete market adjustment happened, it is not like this finally, there was a situation that led the parliament and the government to the decision to claim the ministry of commerce , see what the conditions are in the ministries in charge of production. see, one logic logic actually had global studies . the market was inside, see our conditions. we had the parliament criticize 2 of our ministers about 10 times in 8 years, and finally one of these ministers refused to accept that which ministry is ultimately responsible for regulating the market and responsible for this mess, and which minister's collar is the supervisory body of the parliament. it should be taken. well, this is it

there was a problem in those years because finally a series of mishaps had happened . for example, let's assume that our sugar import has increased 5 times within one year compared to 5 years ago. now, if i give you the exact statistics , in 2083 we reached the threshold of self-sufficiency in the basic sugar product, only 12% of the consumption requirement. our family was supported by imports, and we reached a stage when the minister of agriculture came around october 2084 and promised to be self-sufficient in the field of sugar, but what happened? in november of 1984, the ministry of commerce. he made a decision that now raises a lot of questions. at that time, the sugar tariff

was increased from 150 to 10% in several stages , which means that the import gate was opened for sugar . but what was the result of this decision? the result of this decision was that he imported it three and a half times during that year and between 83 and 85. that is, during almost two years, the import of sugar increased 14 times in our country and we reached a stage where in 2008, half of the domestic production capacity of sugar will be reduced. we were destroyed. well, the members of the parliament as the supervisory body complained about the 157 members then corresponded with the then president, which means they are disappointed by the taunts of these ministers. finally , they don't find the problem, how to solve the problem , the head of the government himself. when they announce that even now, i have nothing to do with regulating the market. if

the logic of the ministry of commerce was to regulate the market at that time , the world price of sugar was decreasing at that time. sugar increased in our domestic market, so these are issues it was that he went hand in hand that led the parliament to the decision that according to that global logic , we should look at the global studies , check approximately 48 countries that have a positive trade balance in their agriculture and industry, and in these, the decision-making structure for production the market is in one ministry . let's assume that the position of agriculture is now, for example , the friends of the ministry of agriculture of that country, which is in charge of production , we also integrate the market regulation and market regulation of that area. it has its powers, well, the logic is that when i want to do the production , i must pay attention to the market and understand what

at some point, i want to give an import license to regulate the market. now, when should i go to export development policies and such? well, this logic requires that the unit command has, so to speak, the area of ​​production and trade. mr. rezvanizadeh, what is your answer to these items see an important point that we all should pay attention to. yes, discussion. in fact, it is minimizing imports by supporting domestic production. at different times, we see imports more than in previous years , before that, what factors cause this increase in imports, is it only the motivation for imports , or climate change, and actually reducing the amount rainfall and it is water that influences us to visit. in order to maintain the judicial security of the country in relation to imports, it is being said that

if the ministry of commerce is formed , the ministry of import and production will suffer in some way. in fact, we have to separate two basic groups, there is a domestic trade sector, which includes more than 3 of perhaps 180 thousand organizations and unions, and these and millions of businesses are actually trade unions, and more than that, there is a second part of the trade sector. it is foreign, foreign trade is not only a matter of import, we should pay attention to the issue of export , we will talk more, we will be at your service on our communication line, mr. hossein mahmoudi , mr. mahmoudi is one of the main economic experts. hello , what do you think about this?

yes , there is a problem with their voice. we will try to re-establish communication, but mr. mohammad sadegh muftah, economic expert, former deputy minister of the ministry , we have established communication, mr. muftah . hello. so far, the ministry of commerce several times it has been formed again, its duties have been merged, mr. muftah , now you again.

in the past few years, we have seen that in fact governance is sought. joining the regional and international organizations from the shanghai brics organization and the eurasian economic and customs union, which last week the honorable minister signed the free trade agreement with the eurasian countries, the most important thing is that we have actually entered the stage these

regional or international organizations are followed by all the organizations that this membership. the important question is that the annexation should take place from tomorrow. in fact , the trustee's free trade, in fact, what are the goals and plans to achieve there is a ministry, mr. powyame, which ministry should be in charge. we have an answer to this issue . you said that from the day of integration or separation, you said that from the day of actually entering into free trade with the alliance , we currently have two laws in the country, which is the same law. the law has clarified this for us , but now the market situation is such that, well, no, we say that we are not satisfied

as a person who works in this field or as. for us to say that because we are in the field of international treaties , we should enter with the logic that the ministry of commerce well, we have to review the past. at the time when we had the ministry of commerce in this country, it is not too far away from what the state of our foreign trade was like in the 80s.

in fact, it did not happen overnight. we have seen that in the years 1980-1981, the business points that were established in the ministry of commerce, after the conferences and events and the cultural and facilitation works for the development of non-oil exports, which happened, these were the preparations for the presence in the world markets. department of economics diplomacy. and stable presence in the target markets is an important part that needs a trustee. i want an example i would like to serve you in the direction of development , that is, the maximum utilization of the capacities of the eurasian union. why does russia choose a minister as the minister of annexation and in fact

the claim of eurasia? doesn't the ministry of commerce have this attention and focus on achieving the goals set in in fact, it is very important. i think that maybe a part of the activities that are scattered today, we have many problems in the field of agriculture today, and unfortunately , there is an island view in other institutions that we cannot use all the capacities. our production together

has a precedent in our country and one a precedent in the world , unfortunately, unlike the rest of the world, experience has shown that in our country, trade works in the opposite direction. in the world, trade is at the service of production, and it comes to export and import or regulate the market based on the regulation of production support, but in our country, it has shown that trade and commerce has come to support the manufacturer now. supporting the consumer, but seeing these things separately, the producer and the consumer

, this view is a wrong view, the producer and the consumer should be seen with the same policy and with the same view. production let's come together to bring cheap production to the country so that the consumer can benefit and get cheap goods. why did we go to this side of the country? this policy is a policy of comfort, it is a policy that is easy but it destroys employment, but the world has moved towards this policy of expanding exports, which is difficult but creates employment. well, look, if we trace the roots, a structure of the ministry of commerce was in the hands of businessmen, so we say that support from production, supporting the production and the producer, what does it mean that we share the profit that is in this chain let's arrange that the businessman gets his own profit, but as much as the producer, as the first link who is doing the production on his land or in his factory, he also

gets his real and rightful share of this profit, but when we we had an independent institution as the ministry of commerce in this country, which consists of businessmen , so they see their own benefit in their policies and in laying the rails for regulation. the english model of these is trade, and commerce is commerce. look, these are fundamentally different from each other. the name of the ministry of commerce

was commerce, which means the discussion of commerce, trade, and commerce. it is broader than the discussion of trade, that is, trade services, which is a very large part of the work , is included in the trade sector. look, among trade services, we have warehousing and transportation. i believe that what was done in the country is trade. it was handed over to the ministry of specialized houses and the issue of commerce, which supports production and trade, was neglected, that is, the dissolution of the ministry of commerce. it was based on the level given by the parliament , which means it was a question of the government's decision or the state's decision the absence of commerce was the reason of the parliament in the name

of shrinking and streamlining the government, and the ministry of commerce was not the only claim of the ministry of industry. i want to say that it was a requirement that came from the parliament to the government. at the same time , the government's expert discussion was part of the opposition of these institutions, which means that they were predicting these things that when this task is done, we will discuss business , which is business policy making. it is internal and external , we will neglect this and it will be said because the pressure that the production problems will bring on the decision-making managers, i see that you, i will add one more sentence , look very briefly, you have four components of production , consumption, import and export in each job.

these four components interact with each other at the bottom of the market . the result of this is that a price will happen at the bottom of the market. this discussion is higher than the discussion of trade . when these four components collide, you are facing a turbulent market uncomfortable it can also be from this side, the price will come down sharply, now, for example , it will be about the sugar of our friend and it will be the producer, or the price will go up sharply , it will definitely be the consumer. it is forbidden in the policies of the government , the policy-making body for these four components in the case of any product . unfortunately, this is the cause of the convulsions that you see in our market. and

we are witnessing it, so i think that in order to allow these policies to be carried out and this balance to be carried out, we must it is necessary to form a single ministry of commerce, with all your formations , make it part of commercial services in the whole world. as part of commercial services, there is a discussion of transportation, there is a discussion of the insurance industry, the insurance industry, and even commercial banks . until the early 1980s, commercial banks were the president of their assembly , and i was the minister of commerce. the concept of services commerce is a very broad concept, which is a sub-category of commercial affairs and a sub-category of commercial services, cash handling, warehousing, insurance industry, banking , that's all and it was until the beginning of the late 80s.

market regulation tools yes, there is production, there is consumption, and

control of export and import. we say that this is logic sahihi , but can the ministry of commerce regulate the market with the tools we give it , this is a fundamental question. it had the means of import and export. now, let's ignore the amount at all, if we say that it is necessary in our foreign trade. to have the ministry of commerce in order to be successful . what is the status of our business? we

are in contact with mr. mufta. from imports, he can say that he can increase or decrease the production , the production is done by the ministry of agriculture, which is in charge of production, and the ministry of mineral industry, which is in charge of the production area of ​​that area, and its only tool is to regulate the market through commercial policies, which, as i said, has not been successful in our country. and it mainly affected the production and our relationship with each other mr. hossein mahmoudi is there , he is still in contact, we also contacted him during the program, but we did not succeed in actually talking to him. mr. mahmoudi , we are at your service . yes, hello . ministry of commerce well, there have been various discussions for a while