and uses it to disrupt the security of the region in the direction of the defined interests, mr. dr. zahedi, we have isis or isis or other isis with specific regions that have been named. yes, as i said in the first part of my speech. he published a map and named different parts of the islamic world with different titles. even today, the isis branch in west africa is the only branch of isis that has some land in its possession, the parts that are now mostly forest, but around lake chad on the border of chad, niger and nigeria, as well as in mali in burkina faso, the libyan branch of this group has activities, a branch has activities in the sinai desert, and some of the groups that are in southeast asia are very scattered and agitated , declaring allegiance to isis, but

they are also named as the basis of the region. for example, isis , sinai province, isis, libya province have names based on their geography, and in fact , they are isis branches in that geographical area, but what is the most important branch of isis for us and perhaps for the whole world today is what we see as isis khorasan. it became a concern of the region from the same years 95, 96, and 97, for example, mr. zamir kablev, who is mr. putin's special adviser on afghanistan affairs , very clearly announced at that time that the phenomenon of isis in khorasan is a phenomenon that can be effective in relation to the future of the world and is very dangerous, and in fact, it is the same puzzle. complement the west, because this region is a hinge that exists between the newly emerging powers of east asia, russia, and the region of the islamic world , that is, the central asian region and afghanistan, therefore, the phenomenon of isis and its performance can severely affect china, russia, and iran. therefore, a country like russia,

their special representative announced that we are with the taliban we will cooperate in the direction of smoothing the path of isis in khorasan, our country, considering that both ideologically and functionally , it is considered a very important goal for isis in the region, both ideologically and functionally. and if they succeed a few times , our compatriots and other people who were present in our country will be martyred. there have been tens of times these events that have been stigmatized by our security agencies, and part of this stigmatization is in the light of the security cooperation between the islamic republic of iran and the neighboring countries, which are also from isis. they feel it is dangerous to deal with the extra-regional powers that were involved in the transfer of daesh from the western borders and their entry into the eastern borders.

and they are still doing their work and support . yes, i said that this behavioral phenomenon shows that it is working completely under their projects and has not done anything wrong to say that this is a sign that it came here and esteghlal showed itself, it may have a common enemy in some places, but there are also differences in some places , it acts differently, this is not the case. i think we should pay attention to two factors. in the formation of this phenomenon or its establishment, the main factor must be the security factor in the services that the westerners are activating and spending money for these activities. but there is another factor that is responsible for the social and religious foundations of these countries. they attract forces, and this is also

an important factor in my opinion and we must pay attention to it. i can honestly say that in a country where the majority of muslims are in central asia, you can't even ask for these countries quickly and forcefully. for example, ban people's hijab , ban their religious rituals , deal with them so-called harshly, and then we should not expect the emergence of radicalism, finally, in the intellectual creations of social platforms. and they are politically effective. they can abuse the religiosity of these people in this region. religious motivations can lead them in wrong directions. the necessity of this issue , as the islamic republic has already announced many times , is that there should be cooperation between the countries of the region in this issue. one of them is the same social and intellectual issue. that we sometimes saw, for example in a meeting with one of the heads of one of the central asian countries, the leadership of the revolution stressed that the way to deal with radical islam and takfiri islam is to strengthen

moderate and rational islam, which means that you cannot strengthen secularism in countries that have strong religious bases. stop the growth of tenro movements, say that since ten or four people have become members of these movements, then we should oppose the principle . recognize the identity of the people, well isis in crimes he himself has a whole series of assassinations of great sunni scholars in afghanistan and other countries, which means that this phenomenon is the first enemy of moderate religious thought. this is another field that we need to talk about. mr. dr. zahedi, please pay attention to both security issues and social and religious issues and other issues and we should also

pay attention to them. my question is that in the operations of the isis terrorist group. we see that it uses the citizens of certain countries, and my question is why? yes, of course citizens of central asian countries were used in iran. in this regard, three reasons should be considered . i will show one by one. i will try to highlight each of these reasons with a term. the first point is the new big game. big was a term used in the 19th century to describe the conflict between the tsarist russian empire and the british empire in central asia and afghanistan. after the collapse of the soviet union and the re-conflict of the great powers in this area over the cooperation

and over the economic interests that existed here , it was connected to the name of the new big game. pay attention today there are a lot of powers, especially the west and the zionists, in that region. now there is a very small example, i would like to say, ms. zavid ben hillel, the ambassador of the zionist regime in uzbekistan, if we study her performance in the last one or two years, we will see how active she is, trying to establish a base for the regime through the so-called cultural measures, socio-economic measures. to create a zionist in that area, this is one point. the second point is the problem that i want to express under the word guidance , maybe an interpretation. and they give an example and say that people who are thirsty, if you don't give them safe water, they will get water the infected will definitely water them and

what happened in central asia is somewhat similar to this issue, which means that there has been a very powerful and vast islamic field for centuries. and in the soviet and post-soviet era, to some extent, it can be said that healthy and moderate and approximate sources were blinded in a wrong way, so in this situation, a group like isis can be attracted by propaganda, concentration and attention , and we happened to see that isis when dabiq he must have paid attention to the russian language and the population of nearly 100 million. of course, the former soviet union, which has a huge potential, is the focus of these the third point and the last point, of course, under the word guidance, i would like to say that if those valves and healthy sources are open before the occurrence of unfortunate and harmful events, many of

these people who are attracted to groups will be guided to a healthy life. and as usual, they will continue on their own and will not be deceived by these groups. the third point is the issue of convenience, that is, the persian language issue makes it easier for a citizen from those countries to act as an active element in iran without having a language problem here. of course , there is an implicit message in this, i think those who the masters are behind the curtain of these issues, when they see how a nation like the nation of tajikistan or the nation of afghanistan makes these linguistic, historical and civilizational ties closer to the islamic republic of iran and the nations in fact. a nation intervenes and they take measures like this and try to create a rift between the nations . i hope this will not happen with the tact of the officials and the people, so it is a big game and the issue of blinding healthy sources and the issue of convenience

is the three reasons why isis used this media what actions did isis khorasan take before this terrorist attack? what did you do to disturb the security in the islamic republic of iran and even in the region? yes , well, some of the measures that happened in mashhad, shiraz and some centers are limited. i have a point. i will say it in parentheses, maybe some of these words that we say will create a kind of worry and insecurity about some immigrants in the minds of some audience members. i emphasize that the issue of forming these groups has a completely security nature it is not that we say that a comprehensive population is being formed and several thousands of members you have to ask for an operation. form it, in order to form a series of softening measures, you don't need to have several thousand members

, you can have 10 to 20 to 30 members , and all societies, as unfortunately we had in our own country, people who even with even with the zionist regime cooperates in some projects to soften the country, well, it can discover and find people, so it is definitely wrong to generalize this issue, they have some operations in mashhad, shiraz, in some places, and sometimes they take charge of these operations. why is it like this? what is happening now, why in the middle of the gaza war, this is the main and central point that i said , they are acting completely in line with arrogant policies, i do not believe that basically they are the decision makers themselves, that is, about isis, unlike even the group other jihadists like al-qaeda, taliban and other groups that have weapons in their hands, we had places where they carried out operations against saqbar and

acted against them, but this phenomenon, from the first day it was formed, acted completely against their policy. it happened in kerman at the height of the gaza story and exactly at a time when israel has suffered a serious defeat in gaza , it is bearing a heavy pressure of public opinion , what happened because 3 months have passed , you did not release a prisoner, hamas was supposed to be destroyed. after forming a series of assassinations of some figures to project this failure and buy time inside that regime, this again shows that it is completely a security project and the type of operation in kerman now shows that a well-trained and cohesive team did this because there were serious security measures in place , but they were still able to do the work. it gives advice to the security services. give and work. i want to talk about this issue. that is, at the same time as such

terrorist attacks and attempts are being made to disrupt security in the region. now, the past assassinations, the terrorist attacks that we witnessed in the case of saleh al-arwari, in the case of iraq's nojowa commander, or even the honorable general seyyed razi mousavi , i want to talk to you about this, but mr. mohsen islame, the documentary maker. they added to our group that my colleagues are trying again to get them on the line so that we can ask them if they what did we do in the field of image to make him known or what efforts is he making in this field and how much work should be done to make this face better known? let's talk about this point mr. kamili pointed out that the zionist regime has made many efforts since october 8, 15th mehr. kurds drew many goals for themselves, and after

this period of time, the world's eyes are in this direction that they have not achieved anything. at the same time, this issue and carrying out terrorist attacks by daesh, now , what are the relations between daesh and khorasan? yes, naturally, one of the messages of this is what happened for sure at least for a very short period of time, it will take the attention and focus away from the palestinian issue, and naturally , those who are targeted by these attacks , i.e., the axis of the islamic authorities, by identifying the enemy's target, can take the necessary countermeasures. naturally , it is in this way that we do not act as an island , as our enemies do in a wide area with different tools and elements in order to ultimately

confuse the rational power of the islamic authorities with their own crude imagination. construction that for decades after the victory the islamic revolution can take place at the necessary point with isis in khorasan, with other branches of isis who are in conflict with us, with those who attack the forces of the islamic authorities in iraq and syria in the necessary manner and on a symmetrical level. i would like to say that now our brother mr. kamini also said that the goals they are pursuing have a lot of social aspects. it is important , that is, if today we witness the media slurs of the enemy and the social divide between the citizens of the islamic republic of iran and, for example, the immigrants , they will read it again from tomorrow. this is a part of the enemy puzzle, isis and its supporters and global zionism are the enemies of the iranian nation

, they are the enemies of the afghan nation , they are the enemies of the nations of central asia, and so on. therefore, the governments of these countries have to confront these measures, which have completed the puzzle of the zionists , in the light of increasing social cohesion and dehumanizing the social foundations. naturally, mr. islameh is added to our group . considering that you are working in the field of documentary , what is your view on this issue , what activities have you done and do you think that in order to introduce what we are talking about today, i should continue mr. kamili's speech that isis in khorasan has no coherent organization and

is a purely intelligence phenomenon. the prisons of one of the countries in the region . i talked to a few of these isis members . i talked to them for a few hours. and they worked on these and this taking them from city to city from one point to another to ask them to carry out an operation in a place where they were arrested before the operation and it is a completely uncontrolled phenomenon and is being guided by the intelligence services. it is also

falling in the region and this is the turning of afghanistan and the loss of afghanistan by the americans have been working on a huge project for a few months now , and that is the road between afghanistan and china through the wakhan strait. it was already talked about with the departure of the americans, and now it is being implemented, maybe in the next 9 months. the afghanistan part will be completed and this is a big revolution and this story is very heavy for the west, for the americans and their allies, and all efforts are being made to show that afghanistan is safe first , as i am witnessing that isis is being dealt with severely in afghanistan. not now. i

was in afghanistan 5 years ago, shortly after the war between the taliban and isis in afghanistan, in the northwest of afghanistan. the european prisoners of isis who were in the secret prisons of the taliban met and interviewed , and now i wish parts of it could be broadcast in this program, and after that, when we came back american special forces go and rescue those daesh members from taliban prison, what could be the reason , in your opinion, other than these forces. are supported by 100% of the americans, and the next issue is the activation of chabahar port, a new event that can disrupt the equations of the region and the corridor equations of the region, and we are witnessing that the project is happening in our dear sistan baluchistan. it is completely characteristic and in the next step

, the project is multi-layered. the conflict between iran and afghanistan has started in the past week afghanistan has blown the horns of the fugitives , they are also following this path, and we must gather our attention. while criticizing the islamic emirate, we are also criticizing the caretaker government of afghanistan. but even though there is a 100-day cooperation between the islamic republic of iran and afghanistan to eradicate isis. thank you very much, mr. aslamzadeh. let's look at the relationship between isis and the american forces and see what this relationship was like before leaving afghanistan. i

would like to point out one point in addition to the previous point that we mentioned that these were at the height of the conflicts in gaza in the atmosphere of islamic awakening. well, our people know that after 2011 that the atmosphere of islamic awakening in the region created a very promising wave, the palestinian people also got involved several times, an 8-day war happened, a 51-day war happened. in that war of 2014, the israelis tried to enter gaza, but they were unable to kill all of them, and what was isis doing at the height of these events? iraq is also full of innocent muslims in those areas being torn to pieces by isis for example, these are not in the pledge of amir al-mu'minin, for example, a look with

the so-called takfiri look they have, it means that we are saying that this jump from the first day is completely intelligence, because our work is in the field of islamist movements and jihadi movements, and we have these you see, we have known al-qaeda for many years, we know the taliban , we know different groups in pakistan and the countries of central asia, and sometimes we have seen that they carry out serious operations against america, even at least in their statements , they are very harsh. getting serious against the israelis don't support the palestinians, they should excommunicate the jihadi movements, the muslim movements, and the palestinian armed movements who are fighting with israel, for the crime that this, for example , is infidel because it is associated with iran. people , don't trust them. some of the horns of saudi arabia are the same, unfortunately, these salafis and some of them are going the same way and they are talking about these nonsense, a phenomenon that has been formed since the first day, that

we should have a scorched earth. i believe that this is the main issue for them in the future arrogance and americans are economic, as mr. islameh pointed out, the very precise word of the political economy of the region determines to what extent they are in this region. they should bring in bombs, how much proxy force should they bring in, how much should they involve these types of people, china's economic cycles should not be able to pass easily from here, except for the americans, who for 20 years more than two-thirds, one of the reasons for their anger is because of the fact that mr. he also explained that it means that america is somehow losing afghanistan as that issue , it has lost more than a trillion dollars. done 2200 he has spent billions of dollars in 20 years so that he can get benefits with the help of these resistant people of afghanistan

. yes, although i believe that the caretaker government has been successful in suppressing these crimes, the number of explosions we are seeing has decreased a lot. there was a day when we witnessed an explosion almost every friday and i heard a bitter news, and we must definitely cooperate regional security should be formed against this issue because it's completely a security and intelligence project . okay, let's see a report. let's go back to the final minutes of the program. march 88, the sky of iran. the flight of two iranian phantom fighters to land the kyrgyz plane on the ground. i signaled to follow and sit down. after this

warning shot, the pilot is forced to land. the terrorist is now at bandar abbas airport. his name is abdul malik rigi, the leader of the terrorist group known as jundullah. the americans said to launch a military attack on iran, this is very difficult, but we have a plan that all the organizations that are against the regime. we want to help all these organizations. as a result of that support, more than 890 iranians were martyred and injured. for example, in the explosion of the mosque of ali bin abi talib (peace be upon him) in zahedan and the firing of zab al-zahedan axis passengers in the tasuki area. abdul malik rigi, who was executed, the remaining members of his group formed the ansar al-furqan group and started blind operations against the people and the armed forces in sistan and baluchistan, but in 2016, the irgc intelligence organization arrested the leaders of this group and put them in the operation. jalil kornbarzeh, the leader of this

group, was killed. to terrorist operations they should be arrested in cities like zahedan , mashhad , khansa and its operatives. let's go to shahrivar 97, the attack of al-ahvaziya terrorist group on people. i say national resistance. this terrorist operation was carried out on the order of this person, habib esyud, the head of al-ahwaziyeh terrorist group, with explosions, for example , strong, then people are killed, there is no problem . the ministry of intelligence arrested him during an operation in turkey and transferred him to iran. esyud in 1402 after the trial, jamshid sharmahed is another terrorist who is arrested and transferred to iran. he

attempted to bomb and create insecurity in iran between 1985 and 1999 , such as the bombing in hosseiniyeh seyed al-shohdai of shiraz sharmahed . he said that my place is on the sixth floor of the american fbi and no one can ever get close to me . do you know where the fbi office is, the same federal building where we are present, but in the end he was caught by the ministry of intelligence, his death sentence was confirmed, shiraz, aban, 1401 people . with a kalashnikov weapon from the entrance of the shrine of shah cheragh, peace be upon him he passes and shoots the people present at the entrance and then goes towards the sanctuary of the shrine . moments later, the attacker along with him is arrested by the security forces and punished after the trial. hazrat zahra has now

announced that after this terrorist attack on the people in the tomb of martyr haj qassem soleimani in iran, the perpetrators of this terror attack have been punished. they will be the target of repression and fair punishment. mohammad javad reza soltani, the supreme leader of the revolution, referring to the hard response to permission god, now that the summary of our colleague's report has been concluded, we have a little time to address the point that mr. k mentioned about regional security cooperation against the isis terrorist group . it has engaged in its own operations and demands that the security agencies of the region in a single and coherent function curb the activities of this group, and here a very important point must be pointed out, this group is a small group, it is true that the actions are unfortunate. stirred

, but god forbid, this will not cause our loved ones dear viewers of this program, a kind of mentality with fear should be created for them. this group is not like other terrorist groups that had done actions that caused our prejudice and prejudice, but they are definitely too small to create disruptions in the path of muslim nations. . i would like to add another small point, in addition to security issues , the issue of propaganda and media is a very important issue for the success of isis in propaganda. and it was a da'wah and to humiliate it through the correct propagation of opening the path of moderate islam in other countries of the islamic world is 30 seconds just as the leader pointed out every norm that we saw. i want to give an index to the people. we have seen every norm that talks about differences , it gives a coefficient to the ethnic quarrel, it gives a coefficient to the religious quarrel , it gives a coefficient to the shia-sunni quarrel, it incites hatred, it wants to separate the hearts, it is a part of

let's see this program because it was burned. this provides fast movement. thank you very much, mr. kamili. thank you , mr. zahedi, for the presence of both dignitaries in the special talk studio and thank you for being with this program as always.