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the period of 3 months has been suspended. mr. shahmirzaei said that this three-month deadline for the integration of the trading system and the shipping system has been set in tonight's special news talk , we will discuss the details of this issue. follow the news on the news network. you are watching a special news talk about the topic of our program. we will come back with the guests of the program. we are at your service. you asked us to declare your assets. why should we declare? for the sake of transparency, this is why i have a little problem with these complaints. it led to the closure
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of some shops in the past days. the store is closed in nimoden, they say because of the financial story. some of them objected to the registration of assets in the trading society system. now in the market itself , sir, this trading system is under the supervision of the country's tax authorities. however, these two systems are different in terms of functionality. the comprehensive trade system is going to monitor from the beginning of the chain to the end of the chain for transparency. after. according to the anti-trafficking law, all people who play a role in the production chain has to explain the product to the consumer , they have to register and state the amount of their product by entering this system, here it says, "well, you specify your personality for me." it says , "i am either a legal entity, or a production union, or a businessman, depending on it." the role asks you for a series of information, a right that all industries have to do , in a way, to respect consumer rights. even
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though the goldsmiths were obliged to register their product information in this system since last year, 1400 was approved and 1401 was notified. so, since last year, we have implemented the law of note 4, article 18 of the society system. we had trade, for example, in the buying and selling of coins , more than 600,000 buying and selling coins were registered in the comprehensive trade system, and more than 10 tons of gold buying and selling were registered in the trading community system, but haj. the ministry has not reached the halfway mark of the implementation of the law on the registration of goods in the comprehensive trade system . for the time being, registration in one system is sufficient, and basically it will be a single window, which we have been given 3 months to do. now, according to the implementation of the taxpayers' system is enough to register in the taxpayers' system, which means that there is no longer any requirement to add information to the implementation of this law. sellers have been delayed while most
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producers and explainers of other product groups are running and registering information in the trade community system. mehdi anari, sed and broadcasting news agency. i would like to introduce the guests of the program to you. mr. alireza shah mirzaei, deputy minister of trade and services. mr. mehdi mohadi, the head of the center for the regulation of store terminals of the tax administration and mr. nader bazarfshan, the head of the sellers' union. mr. shah mirzaei, god willing , let us serve you first . what is the reason for this 3-month deadline for the registration of gold sellers' goods in the jaber tejarat system? in the name of allah, the most gracious, the most merciful, i also say hello to you and the dear viewers of the program , of course, now that you have said it, let's go to the main topic without introduction, and there is little time to see the report that was presented , because i also broadcast a part. my
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interview was much longer, it had various contents, only a part of it was cut now, and in this sense, maybe it was considered that there was a decision in the ministry of position, which was changed later, no, basically, we did not have any notification in this regard that we want to have violated it. and basically, these were rumors that, well, when the gold guild realized that these are sometimes news it is incorrect, so this issue itself was resolved, that is, maybe it was considered that because there was some unrest in the market for a week, and thank god , it was resolved very soon, but what is the 3 month deadline, mr. shamizi? again , there was news that, unfortunately, the friends who were the union published it, and this was basically an internal issue of the government that we were given this opportunity. to connect
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these two systems, of course, the connection of the business community system and the taxpayer system, of course, these are also parts that are connected and already exist. had all the government systems anyway together it is related, but one by one, you specifically asked us to give this opportunity, and this request of yours to ask and give an opportunity means who asked and who gave the opportunity. after all, the higher officials of all the ministries gather in one headquarters in one place. as you can see, the officials who divide the work between government agencies came and created this coordination. it was not good at all that when the tax affairs organization is now implementing the tax system, and this is according to the law, because the cases we had for the system were according to the government's interviews, but this is the law and the parliament has given an assignment, even though
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it started working from the first ten months, it could not be done before this date. what is the work that needs to be done? it's a big step . you see, the concern that has been created now mainly goes back to the cgt or capital id law, which basically has not been promulgated yet , which means the problem is that there is a law that is being approved, but okay. people have heard this news. this is going to be announced in the future. for now, even the guardian council he got a problem because there were concerns about him , now this caused an interference between the activities that we have in the organization of our business community and him, therefore, in order to resolve these concerns because the people themselves were really worried, it was thought that finally to create there is a connection for these three months or to remove the concern. well, the same connection is for
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the purpose of removing the concern. see what is happening. what can actually be changed? well, unfortunately , the false news that was actually put forward was that it is considered that the government . looking for this because of inflation because you see people buy gold a lot they buy to maintain the value of their money, and this is not a problem from the government's point of view, but it was considered that if the people had this information about their gold registered somewhere , then they would have to declare a tax due to inflation, but there is no such thing, which means that the government has never had such a policy. therefore, we want to show that gold dealers are not needed according to the tax system. later, the tax will be modernized for the people, well, it was not like that, we wanted to solve this problem and in fact
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, it would create a complete disparity, while gold sellers have a problem to read this information in two systems. please enter, now we will be at your service again mr. mr. mohadi, at your service , i swear to god, in fact, what will happen in the year of these two systems, the comprehensive system of trade and the system of taxpayers? let me tell you, it needs an introduction for us to know about the maadian system, what is the maadian system , what is its purpose, and what is its function. i would like to give you a very brief summary. the maadian system has one main goal and other sub-goals that follow. in fact , its implementation may be realized. we have a central concept and we have a so-called central sign in maadian system and that is electronic invoices. electronic invoices are the same invoices that were previously submitted manually in paper form.
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now, according to the standards of the tax affairs organization, it is supposed to be entered and registered in the maadian system by the sellers of goods and services. when this is self -assessment. it was done by the sellers, we use this as a basis for calculating the tax system , so they will no longer need to submit a depreciation declaration, and our tax officers will no longer need to go to madia finally, therefore, the main purpose of the maadian system, or in other words, the law of closing a store , is a platform for actually implementing and collecting value added tax. which previously, in fact, perhaps the collection of this type of tax had caused problems. the sub-goals of this system actually create transparency in the context of the flow of goods and services and the value chain within the countries. in
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fact, it is clear here. therefore, every seller who wants to come and sell and supply his goods and services in the form of an electronic invoice is at his disposal. in the maadian system, it depends on who the opposite party is, whether it is the final consumer or not. or, in fact, he is a business owner or a legal person who wants to use the credit of this added value, so if he is a final consumer , there is no need for a national code. ok, if he wants to use the value added tax credit, he should enter his economic number there, so there is no need to enter the national code by actually the national code of the final consumer who came to buy.
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it doesn't exist, so this goal is the goal of the mining system that must happen. now, we went to all the legal entities that are required according to the law, in fact, according to article 1 of the law, the duties of the mining operators in the implementation of the law of the store footing and when the mining operators are required from the beginning of the day, so to speak. member by member legal entities and from that side some natural persons, which natural persons, in particular , natural persons whose net sales of goods and services are above 18 billion tomans by september 1402, are obliged to declare their sales in the form of electronic invoices from the first day. supply in in the meantime, some other businesses, according to the rules of other rules, are actually legally obliged
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to do such a thing , especially in the system of the trade society . in particular, gold dealers are actually a group of suppliers of goods related to gold, platinum and jewelry. they are among the industries that, according to the ruling of part 4, clause b, article 26 of value added tax, are required to declare their own sales and supply them through the speed of electronic accounts, yes, and in the maadiyan system. they should register, so to speak, this is a requirement for gold dealers, and this requirement has been imposed on them since january 1, 2014. now , the order of the trade society came and it was said that an inventory must be registered there as well. now this is going to be integrated. please explain this integration. yes, i would like to offer you one of
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the very good events that, according to note d , article 6 of the facilitation law and the recent law and approval that was approved on november 28, 1402 , is creating an obligation for all executive bodies that reach and receive the custodian according to legal regulations information about the flow of goods and services. they are suppose to be like the system of the commercial society which is supposed to come and monitor the flow of goods and services in some way, or in fact the system of saman , the system of electronic registration of oil transactions or the headquarters, in the end all these systems will be obliged and obliged in such a way. in fact, complying with the requirements of issuing the electronic account speed required by the taxpayer system . that if a person goes to the system of the trading community
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and actually registers his electronic bill, this electronic bill will no longer need to come to the maadiyan system again. this speed of the electronic account is registered as a piece of cloth. now this is a piece of fabric. did this piece of fabric happen? with the efforts that were actually made by the ministry of industry, mining and trade and mr. shamirzaei , this happened in the past one year, that is. . now this relationship has been established between the trade society system and the maadiyan system , which means that if someone wants to come through the trade society system and send his electronic invoice, it is possible that the same information will be entered in the trade society system. and inside the maadiyan system in other words, sit down, it is not only for gold sellers. that they should also register in the trade system, no, you see
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, we register all goods in the trade system, but the registration method is very different, that is, basically, there are several groups of goods that are classified as smuggling and in fact prohibited under the fourth article of article 18. its instructions are different, for example , oil products have different instructions for medicine , gold, jewels and precious stones have their own special instructions.
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well, i believe it was not a good time for our industry considering that we have been involved in the same system of the business community for about a year and a half. we are and in that law , it has been amended in relation to petroleum products and medicine, in relation to the development of the next law, in relation to our industry. it's not enough and we can't for a small percentage of people who are now in the field of smuggling, which i believe should be controlled through the borders. a series of our colleagues who are implementing the framework of the laws and paying their taxes are allowed. in your opinion, the law is the highest document and should be implemented. ok, yes, yes , there is also an amendment. i will give
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you an example of the value added tax law of 13 388. our industry was imposed without expertise , what happened after 12 years, in the meetings we had with the reason of the law and with our own expert commissions in the parliament, they were convinced that the original gold does not have value added tax. what type of business can it have? the reason is that because. we have a bitter experience . there are tax problems with our colleagues. there are tax problems in the id tax in the future . it is related to the registration and security of that system . it is also a matter of security.
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the comprehensive trade system will be registered if everyone doubts the security of this system . there was a discussion about this in relation to the economic commission of the parliament, which mr. pol ebrahim said. they are subject to registration , they are subject to registration, four are subject to registration, if they say , sir, we do not have confidence in the comprehensive system of trade, the conditions, not the conditions of our industry , see mr. azari's work area. it has a certain process and certain complications,
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as well as the issue of security when this product is registered. who wants the security of this system from this city to that city? guarantee? mr. shamirzaei, can this security be guaranteed? now, let's say a few things. now , my colleagues, i am surprised . finally, colleagues, you see, they say that there was no gold , there is no such thing at all, that is, one of the most important laws, the name of that law is the spoonful of gold and the supply of spoonfuls of goods and the supply of gold as well. among the goods , it is of special importance and... the spoon is not as they say , it is not like that, it is only for us, we have the money laundering law , it is there in the law of the banking system, basically gold because it is very closely related to the issue of currency and money, so there are definitely these sensitivities there. but well, you see, the concern of friends is more than here, because this law on letter signatures has been in place for several years and
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this new version is also from last year, but since the capital id law was approved in all this time , now this is the point that they are most worried about id. it was capital because people were worried about the rome system. well, now that friends are saying that these solutions have been devised. now, friends, we talked with them in the meetings. finally, now the union is obliged to defend its union, but for us, it's really a snafus. they do not make any difference, of course i will say this, sir. there is also a point, sir, see sometimes, now , i really request this from the media, that you see , sometimes the gold guild is sometimes called as a guild that, for example, is now the gold sultan and so on for a while
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, and it may be considered that you see, this gold guild is a very honorable guild , people trust them, most of the goldsmiths, especially the gold sellers, they don't really have a lot of capital . it works and is very busy. we should not bring down the dignity of this trade discrimination, i want to say, is not because there has been a special resistance, because sometimes he said in the program , for example, the gold guild has resisted. there is a little bit in all classes , like everyone else, but gold has certain characteristics, such as width. because it is property only for cars and in fact gold
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, that's why we are making these reforms in mr. bezrafsan's system. actually, with this integration in these 3 months, your problems will not be solved. well, mr. azaritab, regarding the industry i told you to see now that mr. shah mirzaei himself is referring to our industry sector , is there a trading sector or is there gold in the factories in the production units, to explain the trust, if that cycle of those exchanges is done, they can register them, this is a problem. unfortunately, there are more important problems that we have at the country level in relation to the time when laws are to be passed regarding certain issues of that industry. unfortunately, it is not possible to gather the minds of that industry, the unions,
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and become a series of experts on that industry's conditions. we will not have the problem of added value again and leave i want to say that our industry and our colleagues and all sectors in society in general, especially our industry , have shown a reaction to a series of problems that they have had in the past and may be repeated in the future. the delivery and platforms of training and i wish this meeting and these platforms and these meetings that we have now in these two weeks, the use of these systems is not really complicated, now these different systems that are brought up, different alliances are always in the middle of this discussion. and this information discussion and doing this is your own good information training yes, this should have been done. now speaking to you, mr. mohadi, you now have statistics on the amount
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of tax paid by gold dealers per capita . the fact of the matter is that we, just like the honorable minister of financial affairs last week, actually presented a report on this tax. in fact, in the gold industry, the average tax of the gold industry last year was about 960 thousand tomans for the whole year , of course, i say this because it is an average, but it does not mean that some gold dealers actually pay a much higher amount of tax than the average of the entire gold industry , which is probably a statistic now, sir. mr. bezrafshan let them know that there are about 50,000 gold shops in the whole country, and the average of these is actually about 34,960,000 tomans
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per month or not in the whole year. 1000 tomans for each month is actually not the amount of tax tolerable. well, yes, this statistic is ultimately for the purpose of growing the necessary information platforms as much as we can and actually strengthening these necessary information platforms. for example, let's assume that he has a sales turnover or the amount of sales that he has naturally, the more this transparency increases, the more it will strengthen and increase the basis for fraudulent and fair tax collection. naturally, mr. shamirzai , finally, with these three months ahead of him, the infrastructure will be provided and this connection will be made, and now the numbers will be in numbers. you heard me yourself, yes, look, now i am sure
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you are comparing this digit number with the digit number. look at other classes, of course, i think that in general, we should take taxes from the hidden part of the economy, our taxes in general in the country are less compared to many countries compared to the amount of our production. because the hidden part of our economy is a big part, unfortunately, well, tax friends have done a very good job in the last one or two years, but look at the comparison between gold, maybe it is considered that this gold is a big asset. they see their own streets, their gold is rented. it is not the case that, for example , there are different service sectors in this industry, raising a problem that we should not charge a tax for the increase in the price of gold, which means that people should not think that it is because of inflation , if the price of gold is going up because of the country's inflation now, no one should have to pay taxes on the things that are related to value added and profit. well, you see, now there is a stagnation in this industry. unfortunately, exports have also
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decreased in previous years. now, according to the explanations that were given, there is still concern, mr. bazarafshan, in your department, mr. azaribaga, regarding a series of issues . we have problems in our industry in relation to taxes , labor problems, export problems. we have a lot of problems and i say, why don't we come to create a culture before that, why people, look, now it's just a doubt it is not among our colleagues that the people of the community should react to this issue even now because the information was weak and the cyberspace before the implementation of this law caused damage to our industry and you have a month to inform . there is no notification, no
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, no, no, sorry, this is about allowing time in relation to the system of the trading community, that those weaknesses or those reforms that it has should be done, i believe, and that we do not have a problem with the mudia system, registering our electronic invoices. it should be done, we don't have that problem, it's more our problem the trade society system and mr. azaribeq, we have to deal with a series of problems of our guilds, all in one country . we are living, the problems should be solved, only we should come and talk, then everything will be left, then a critical situation will arise in that industry, then let's come, let's have a meeting, these meetings should be more, our industry should be expert in paying taxes and clarifying and there is no problem with the justice tax. this
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statistic was also announced by mr. mohadi a few days ago. but why do the media say 500,000 tomans for gold dealers and some say tax evasion is 7,000? i would like to tell you that the other day we were in the service of mr. bazarfshanam, one of the concerns of the businessmen, especially now the guilds, and in fact the gold and jewelry guild, was that if we now want to issue electronic invoices
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in the name of god, mrs. hello gentlemen, welcome to the world. today, the first file of tonight's program is dedicated to the final review. in these political and military developments , on the 94th day of the war against gaza, we will host mr. seyyed reza sadr al-hosseini. in the continuation of the program , we will talk about the abuse of children in the epstein case, which recently came to the attention of dozens of personalities

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