it has been in africa, in the newly discovered area , there are more than 373 thousand billion cubic meters of deep water , and they are using it. how many countries are using it? more than 100 billion dollars are now being invested in part for the knowledge of these waters. please tell me, zahrai. yes , i was the ministry of energy in the previous government, but my responsibility was mostly about managing water consumption and adapting to water scarcity. but see,

there are several important points here, one of which is mentioned by dr regarding the deep waters that are used in north africa, they are used in the arabian subcontinent. you can see that there is a major difference. first of all, they are not formation waters, as far as i know. now dr. balochi is here, they can probably better say that they are alluvial waters. and they are not deep at all. the wells in our container , i think , are all around two or three kilometers deep. in fact, their water intake is mostly below 500 meters , so it is close to the depth of the alluvial wells that we have in kerman, kerman province, for example . i think the comparison may not be the right comparison in addition, much of it is actually the water that is used, which is unstable now.

the water source, which is actually fossil water estimated to be more than a million years old , is used in saudi arabia. their estimate is that it may run out by 2050, and it is actually a completely unsustainable exploitation of a completely non-renewable resource. so , is this the reason for you or is there another reason, no , look, my documents are all available on the internet now, mr. doctor. he says that we don't want to publish information about oil and gas sources etc really, in my opinion, the comparison of the water source is the analogy of al-fargheh. i always say this . i mean, to what extent are governments allowed to decide on the exploitation of natural resources that belong to all the people of iran in a confidential framework? this is really, in my opinion, about water at all. there is no example that we use the water source in this way. in my opinion

, this is not a correct opinion at all. very well, mr. boluchi, there was talk about the sustainability of these water sources. what is your opinion? do you think they are sustainable, renewable or not? i did not have your voice, but anyway. i heard a part of the conversation of my friends, first of all one point i will serve you. nowhere in the university were we taught that aquifers may exist in rock units. right now, in the field of hydrogeology, except for carbonate units, for which the potential of karst is considered , they do not teach any aquifers in the country, my dear son , my dear daughter. you study hydrology. water

may exist in the rock mass unit deep in the ground . there may be water in the granite rock formation, like the one in the paris region , which supplies the drinking water of the city of paris. or , for example, no one asks why australia was able to become the most reliable country in the world in the field of animal husbandry agriculture as well as mining. is this water that they use from the seas of the ocean around them transferred to the center of australia or not ? they identified an aquifer called the great artesian gober aquifer in 1890, but did not announce it to anyone , drilling thousands of wells from a depth of 500 meters to 3000 they measured different qualities and exploited it until 1990. these wells

were managed by completely personal management. since 1990, the level of these wells has dropped a little , leaving the artesian state . of the consumers of this water, four of the six australian states are involved in this aquifer and they actually manage it, and today the large artesian aquifer of gob is being recharged and renewed twice, so you believe that the water resources in the container are renewable, they actually ignore that yes. i didn't have your voice until now. my question to your excellency was , do you believe that deep water sources are renewable ? i don't have your voice. so, please, so that my friends can turn the volume down, so that we can reconnect with you, ms. zahraei. please, yes

, look, i think that the comparison between australia and iran is, of course, a very special case it is interesting. what mr. brochi said, but this comparison is also a suspended analogy. australia is a very vast country, surrounded by the sea, and its total population is not more than 25 million people, which means that the population of australia is the size of tehran and alborz provinces. i think this analogy is not a correct analogy and my question now is whether australia is really through muharram. keeping the information of this well and actually monopolizing the exploration and exploitation in a special institution has been able to reach this way of exploitation of these deep waters and has actually been able to maintain its stability. or has he allowed the information of even

the private operator to have access to these wells for different states that are zainaf to comment on his information about its exploitation, because you know that this aquifer has become unstable and then exploited. the removal has been corrected and stabilized, that's all, this information has been published now about the well in sistan, really , the wells that have been talked about in sistan baluchistan province, in the sistan region, really, how many ups and downs that happened in debish happened in the watering of the well. the ones that happen in quality how much information has really been published? based on the fact that several valuable experts who work there say that this is renewable , why is it not confidential to the geological organization of the country that the information is sent to the geological organization and mineral exploration organization?

the country should investigate these allegations in a confidential manner and publish a report that i, as an expert, can say. yes , an organization that is part of the government and its duty is to investigate and approve such measures. check and approve. scientific vice-chancellor mr. dr. said that his duty is to produce technology and support the improvement of technology , not to go to the executive work of exploiting underground water and deep water resources. should we use deep water or not? if not, what are your reasons?

or consumption management, for the past few decades , we were looking for water everywhere , we went everywhere, we went a hundred times, we increased 700% of the underground water exploitation wells , we transferred water between basins, we want to go from the sea come on, we want to bring water from deep water . after all, where do we have to exhaust all the resources , that is, wherever there is a drop of water, we have to use it, then what is the share of the future generation? if we go to work on consumption management, it means to prevent the clever increase in productivity in different sectors of the industry. let's increase agriculture, control overharvesting, change cultural consumption patterns , or, for example, reuse gray water or sewage and sewage , make windmills, we are all looking for this. let's use water. look, now we

have run out of water reservoirs, rivers have run out , and now we have also used deep water. what's next? this is my first point . the second point is that there is a general rule in the use of ground water. if you harvest land, you must observe the component, first, it must be renewable, second, you must not touch the strategic reserves, that is. whether in alluvial aquifers or in the so-called hard productive aquifers , you have to maintain those strategic reserves and that renewable condition. well, in the case of deep water, the problems we have are that you are not based on deep water. you can do sustainable development. friends , see examples from different countries. i will provide detailed information in the following, if there is a chance , from australia to saudi arabia, which are many of these so-called countries that could not do sustainable development . 3 years, 5 years, 10 years of use , then it is finished, secondly, exploitation of

deep water resources should be the last option, that is , these resources are so valuable that you should first try to keep them for future generations, don't preemptively, and go for the consumption management. or other things. secondly , the operating cost is very high, see the cost there is drilling, there is the cost of pumping from a depth of 2000 meters , there is the question of desalination of these waters , there is the cost of maintenance. and the next point, the next limitation in the discussion of the exploitation of deep waters is the good quality of these waters . see, let me give you examples from different countries very briefly. friends , referring to the deep aquifer of australia, this deep aquifer is 22% of the area of ​​australia. but we should be aware that the salinity of the water in this watershed is 1,000 to 3,000 nuclear units. according to their own words, according to their own documents, this water that friends are bringing now in sistan has 40,000 to 50,000 units of salinity.

the water is saltier than the water of the persian gulf and the sea of ​​oman . this water cannot be used at all. in the discussion , for example, we have an aquifer. in saudi arabia , we have an aquifer called disi. this aquifer is high in radium. it is a radioactive substance. now, it is high. with all the trouble. to reach that level of exploitation , but only saudi arabia has been able to use this water for 10 years, which means that after 10 years, you will see the pictures and the fields will dry up, and saudi arabia, which thought it could become a wheat exporter , is now the largest importer of wheat. nubin aquifer i think that our colleague and friend mr. nubin mentioned this nubin water tank, its quality is so good that you can use it for agriculture . there are many of these characteristics, or rather , none of them

are present in this water that my friends took from the wells of sistan. in the following , i will quickly tell you about the scientific problems involved in the exploitation of the deep waters of the sistan baluchistan region. thank you, mr. mr. sharifi , please tell me your answer regarding the quality of shurish desalination water and its radium, so that you can see that i am very happy that the experts and specialists dear, today we sit and say that there is deep water, we should not use it. it is strategic. we used to say that there is deep water in the country. they said that there is no deep water in the country at all, and because the frequency and density of our territory is such that it does not allow clay lenses. let the table be set here today. we sat down to share some of the information about the water in jarf. now , friends know about it. they don't know. they tell us not to use it. our

message is that for the work of our country , productivity should be our first priority, reducing production losses should be our second priority, reforming the pattern of cultivation, the territorial arrangement, the pattern to islam should be our third priority after the next step, let's go and look. this available water , which we have managed well, should be explored. now one is deep water, one is ocean water , one is caspian water. we have a lot, but i said that at one time the existence of water in the ravine was hidden at all. at one time they said that this water is radioactive. at one time

they said that it is economical. they said that it is not usable at all. the doctor said now for example, 15,000 and a quarter of salt sea water, other than this water, is ineffective in terms of defense and the speed of use wherever necessary, it will last you a month. four and 7 kurds were extracted and used whenever it was needed or not, it can be plugged and now we have to look for this technology, if deep water. 100 units, we are in unit 1 and shower , still only a part of our information is focused on sistan baluchistan, the rest of the country we do not have information , we have groundwater, in fact , experts say it is 500 billion cubic meters, which

some claim is 150 billion additional cubic meters we used it on the organization, so it says that the quality is good and can be used. it can be done in its own place. we cannot give a general prescription for the country . somewhere there may be fresh water that can be used. somewhere there may be brackish water. it should be studied. until we drilled a well, this is not an exploratory well, it is not a well that can be exploited, then the trustee's device with the scientific deputy, if they saw fit that this should not be in the hands of everyone , it was in their interest, they wanted to manage it so that the work would not be out of their hands. about are you talking about renewable resources? do you think these resources are renewable, or according to mr. rasam, in your presence, can this be considered sustainable development or not? look , as mr. dr. sharifi said, and very good information in his articles about the hashtgerd plain aquifer, publishing

the aquifer in the country's alluvial aquifer , the age of hashgerd is 90 meters, it is more than 10,000 years old, if this aquifer is a renewable aquifer no , why did the ministry of energy use it ? our main problem is here. if our friends say that we don't have the information, how can mr. dr. for example, they are talking about water reservoirs , so this information is being searched and escaped by a system, the information is given out, but it is not given correctly, unfortunately, the information is there , it is done in a very systematic way, as professor sharifi said, this is not a systematic production work. just as the doctor said, today the result of its operation will be found out

. operation in saudi arabia, yes, when the aquifer during the oil detection studies. it was discovered that friends in saudi arabia made the mistake of making agriculture from this. in the event that if he if the aquifer was preserved, saudi arabia would not need other underground water sources for drinking water for hundreds of years. it was saudi arabia's wrong decision that destroyed that aquifer. 13 years of rank. the world's wheat production became second, and this is not the right thing at all. we are studying deep water in the country right now. we are saying everywhere that our deep water studies must produce enough data and knowledge about where we have and how much, then at the right time in the form of

let's use it properly. of course, if i can sweeten water in bandar abbas , i will bring it to bandar bass every month when i draw water from the minab underground. to cause the subsidence of the minab plain, unfortunately, this is happening in our coastal strip in different places, the subsidence is happening in my khuzestan plain, there is a subsidence next to my gorgan , we should not allow more of these alluvial aquifers to be damaged by our improper exploitation of the alluvial aquifer. why because the manager? we took it from the people and gave it to an organization. we were successful until now and we were able to create a proper economic process in our country where the people are responsible for the quality of the water

. we will have water somewhere like nubin aquifer. just as in many deep tunnels that have been discussed in the country , they have very strong aquifer rock units, even if the aquifer is contaminated , it should definitely not be used, but i had to identify it . a little more time should be given because there was no time in the first part . you can see that there are many scientific problems in this matter. from the first day when friends wanted to raise this issue, they started saying a series of abstract words that sir , these waters are from the highlands of india and cultivated. comes from it passes under zabul and zahedan and goes into the sea of ​​oman. if we don't extract this , it will be lost. my argument is that we don't have anything called deep water at all. this thing, my friends , is finding fossil water. it is a fossil water that remains at

great depths. what is my reason? my reason is that this temperature is very high. what is the reason? the reason is that the wells that these friends dug, mr. belerchi's well number three , can say that tea number three, why is there no water now, why has the water been cut off, why has this been going on for so many days? they are pumping, the water is cut off, the quality changes , if it is thousands of billions, as friends say there is water below, why do we have to dig a well for 200 meters, then pump it for a few hours , then it will be empty , then they say, "i don't know, sir, we did magnetometric studies ." 40 we say, sir, where did this thirty come from? they say , "i don't know, sir. it was a karst stone." see, i must say this section , friends say that in sistan baluchistan, we

have no other option in sistan baluchistan. see, in sistan baluchistan, a little water is enough. let's bring agriculture and save money. with the thousand billion that friends spend on these four wells, 5 thousand livelihood greenhouses could have been built in sistan baluchistan. you see, our water intake in sistan baluchistan province is 2155 million cubic meters, and the water supply from these deep wells, now mr. doctor said that there are three, i think three of these deep wells, the water that will be supplied is probably at the most tens of millions. more cubic meters per year. it will be, its share is not at all comparable to the total water consumed in sistan and volosh islam, mr. sharifi has your summary. what i am saying is that precisely because of these

ambiguities and discussions, we need to study and conduct research on the issue of deep water, and with knowledge and nobles , act prudently on the subject in its protection and use. it seems like this , in any case, with 3 or 4, it is not possible to judge that we have a huge volume, nor can it be rejected, but anyway, as the studies progressed, we became more hopeful, but from the economic point of view, i think the water is deep. third to 1/4 of the water, in fact, the transfer from the sea will not cost more. thank you very much to all the guests. i would like to thank the program and all the good viewers, especially the barter program, for accompanying us until this moment , god bless you. high higher than

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