it is 4 am tehran time and dear viewers, welcome to this news section. the minister of energy announced the provision of water to 10,000 villages by the end of 2014 . mr. mehrabian said at the appreciation ceremony for the activists and benefactors of water supply to the villages: the existence of 60 thousand villages in the country and the climate diversity made the presence of benefactors with the ministry of energy more important . the formation of this very valuable assembly is a big step in popularizing this effective work and great service with the great efforts of zealous and charitable men who

are always thinking of helping dear people over the years. the closing ceremony of the 14th research festival and technology was held in iran's national documentation organization. among the submitted works, 14 works in the fields of information science and archival science, studies of contemporary history, iranology, islamology, protection and maintenance of archival and library resources. epistemology and epistemology were introduced as chosen ones. considering the state of new technologies in the world , we focused on artificial intelligence and its application in the use, analysis and evaluation of resources and data for better access of people and experts to our documents and resources. suggestions section suggestions were added to this program. iranian section and islamology. the investigations that have been done have been completed and

increased. researchers have provided an easy way to diagnose lung cancer with the help of nanoparticles. in this method, people inhale nanoparticles through a device similar to an asthma spray, then take a urine test with a simple strip. nanoparticles contain dna strands in a cryptic form. which react to certain enzymes. these enzymes are secreted from cancer tumors in a large amount and after reacting with rheumatism, they enter the fluids leaving the body. this research group from the met institute of biomarkers to make tape tests were used. according to scientists, this method is minimally invasive and can be used everywhere. proposal.

in response to a message that linked the killing of women and children in gaza to the war between talavid and hamas , he emphasized that their killing was done by netanyahu's direct order and he should be held accountable for these crimes. at the same time, 250 spanish lawyers signed a letter asking their government to join south africa's lawsuit in the international court of justice, and after the trial of the zionist regime in the international court of justice in the hague, the united states and england for complicity with the crimes of the zionist regime in gaza. confined to the court. a legal group consisting of 47 lawyers in south africa

is preparing a lawsuit against the united states and the united kingdom due to the us and the uk's military and financial political support for the occupying al-quds regime in gaza, and washington and london should be held accountable for supporting the massacre. the people of gaza should be held accountable, so far the authority to handle this complaint has not been announced. five days ago, for the first time and at the request of the south african government , the case of the zionist regime's crime against the palestinians in gaza as genocide was filed at the international court of justice in the hague. was formed. this case contains evidence and there are various documents about the crimes of the zionist regime in palestine. this action of the south african government has been widely supported by people worldwide. 5 in the morning, the next section.

the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament is the key, it is in the hands of the people. iranian coach sharaf iran has a telegram playing with the whole country. why is this month pricing? your question is an interesting question . we don't want to hit the manager of a football player . he should pay his insurance according to what he does. discover the answer it is intelligently identified. i don't agree with

any kind of doubt their recent matches are real competition. i mentioned that one of the important pillars of the election means that the field should be open for the presence of different political, economic and cultural views and ideas so that everyone can participate in the big election contest and form a big and real competition. as i told you, one of the issues on which experts , related officials and experts have different opinions is the way and basically the production of government assets , which we want to address in today's special higher program. thank you very much for being with us. mr. midari, an economic expert, also mr you are special to the program. here in our studio , farbanzadeh, another economic expert of the program , is present and we want to talk to each other

. before we start our discussion , i invite you to see the report that our colleagues are preparing. let's come back and start a conversation, mr. sobhani is an economic expert. the economic revolution that was talked about in privatization has now led to dissatisfaction. a country where more than 60 million people receive subsidies and have livelihood issues, how much money do these people have to buy surplus government assets? definitely, the buyers of these assets are a collection of non-governmental organizations. mr. shakri , an economic expert in the production of our assets , the rules of the private sector. we control the government's assets in order to make better use of it. asset generation does not simply mean selling government assets. governments get more cash flow from national assets by making them more productive and

spend it in budgets. mr. raghofer, an economic expert , criticized and objected to privatization plans in the past, but he was not listened to, and so is the plan today. the production of government assets is much more it is one of the previous privatization methods and declaring financial bankruptcy is public. mr. shujaei, an economic expert, it is true to think about productivity, but it should be spent in the right place. we can use the income from productivity in the national development fund. this means looking to the future. the word productivity means exploitation. mr. momeni, an economic expert, in the past 3 decades, 20 billion dollars of the intergenerational wealth of the iranian people was lost through privatization. now, instead of compensating for the losses of the past years , we are witnessing the worsening of the situation through a decree called productivity of the assets.

there is nothing left of the country's production and the government is thinking of selling them, which is not logical, and mr. gurbanzadeh , the former head of the private organization s, says about this: when you freeze the government's assets, you have practically frozen a part of the country's assets. well, share the report of my colleague. it was a review of the opinions of supporters and opponents of the topic that we are serving you today. i want to start with mr. midari and the main question of your program is whether you agree with productivity or not, do you think it is capital creation or selling government funds? in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful, greetings to my dear viewers, mr. dr ghorbanzad and his excellency. if i want to give you a very brief service, it is that according to the regulations that are in force in iran, production should be done. it will not achieve what has been determined, but

it will cause a fundamental blow to the political system and cause us many social problems . in fact, the claim is based on both domestic and global experiences. in order to explain these experiences, i have to say a few things. let's separate the spheres from each other, one is productive, which is in spheres like schools. education actually wants to be done. one is in the field of factories, and the other is in the fields of land and immovable assets, such as warehouses we have to separate these fields from each other and each has its own rules. regarding the jad factory, which is a very fundamental issue because it is tied to employment and production, world experience shows that the countries that removing obstacles to the production of the private sector, moving without

handing over the state enterprises, they grow the private sector at a faster rate, but the countries that handed over the state enterprises, as we had scattered experiences of this from the mid-1900s to the 1970s. companies are faced with a drop in production and productivity, there are many reasons, successful example: privatization, i'm sorry, the growth of the private sector without privatization, china did not hand over any state-owned enterprises, it moved forward with a private sector to overcome production obstacles, the private sector quickly increased its share from 20% of the economy to more than 80%, but countries like eastern europe of the former soviet union going towards the privatization of these not only by reducing production. facing more political corruption and

therefore the reason is very clear, the reason is that the factories established by the government are basically not suitable for private sector ownership, why the location of these companies is based on your political discretion in iran, you are full of petrochemicals and steels, which is due to the pressure of parliamentarians. it was created not based on the logic of experts, it has low utilization . we give this to the private sector. what does it want to do with a lot of surplus power? when the private sector gets it, it starts lobbying so that it can do foreign and domestic trade. in fact, change the environment so that it can manage inefficient sites, and this will create more problems .

the haft paş steel sugarcane that we handed over in khuzestan was for this reason that since 1380 we have not handed over public companies to the private sector, we have given to the pension fund to the social security organization, this experience and global experience shows that we it should not be in the industry sector. basically, let's go towards the sale of state-owned enterprises, but let 's create barriers to competition in favor of the private sector in the economy. now , let's keep it here, because you mentioned two or three sectors, mr. gurbanzadeh. what do you think about the industry sector that mr. midari mentioned, in the name of allah rahman? al-rahim i would also like to say hello to all dear and respected viewers, mr. dr. midari, mr. vali, and your colleagues . in fact, i have spoken differently, i

am actually speaking my own, now, if the discussion arises, i would like to make an introduction, and i would like to enter with the command that mr. dr. midari started, and what is the difference between there is production of immovable property, unreasonable property and privatization of companies and economic smell . the order of mr. dr. midari is that mr. dr. midari. they consider these things to be closely related, and in some places, they may actually believe that they are related to each other because they judge the fate of both in almost the same way . financially

, there are differences between fixed assets and immovable assets due to the type of policy, land and company. the company must be focused on the future of profitability. the company has workers. the company has financial speed, profit and loss, etc. , and these are fixed. in fact , it does not have immovable assets, such as real estate, land, etc., workers. it is not a company at all, the nature of how its future vision can be copyrighted or not does not exist. therefore, it is different , of course, it is necessary to plan somewhere in the macro-policy , because after all, an asset is an asset. i think on this point, no one actually disagrees that productivity means in the general sense that we say that an asset should be used better.

no one can deny it at all because it is one of the certain principles of reason that say, sir, are you an asset? if you don't have it, use it better now, it may be for sale or not, and there are various problems in the case of movable property now the issue is that the government that has all these assets and land is the government in the sense of its uncle, which naturally means the government of the banks, in fact the ministry of housing , institutions, organizations, etc., which, god willing, have immovable property and are not using it properly , either it is abandoned or in fact in fact, it is used improperly, or that no one has considered whether or not this property belongs to the government or not, that is, there is a dispute regarding the property of the nobles, which the government does not know what it has in this open field, meaning the government. now, i have to say that in the past years, without a doubt, you should be in the field

first of all, let us give this testimony that first we agree that it should be used better , which i think is a logical principle . let's sit down and talk about whether this experience of handing over a company means prioritizing liberalization over actually selling a company and in what order is the experience of china and other countries. i believe that it is definitely in the field of finance. the best use is to leave it to the general public and in this way, without doubt, we will go for it in fact, leveraging for half -finished construction projects and other examples that are likely to come up in the discussion is certainly appropriate and there is less to worry about

this forgiveness, mr. midari. ghorbanzadeh says that if i want to, i will express my opinion very clearly. this is that with the regulations we have, the regulations related to the sale of assets, production will not take place . first of all, see if you agree or disagree with the principle of production. the issue is whether the existing policies lead to production or not. it cannot be against being productive, i say this is the policy that has been adopted by the government. it does not lead to the creation of frozen assets. now , why does this and vice versa affect the government? see, we are not the first country where the government wants to sell its surplus land. a group of immigrants left and

took lands that were not inhabited until now or were the original inhabitants of s. dosta and wanted to hand them over. there were 3 different models of the way they took. in relation to radio waves today's world is very important, this is an asset that the government creates that you can use radio frequencies for internet, radio, private televisions in that country. there have been three methods, and this is the method in iran. the method is that first they measure the eligibility, they say who can actually use this property, or whoever comes and offers the highest price , they give it to him. this method is because discovering the price is a very complicated process, usually in

america, where a lot of expertise was done. they sold it and questioned the political system so much that what does it mean to choose the lottery method? the government then said that i am not coming to choose. i don't know what you have seen. now, like a person puts his hand in a basket , he picks a number. why do they say they do this? because we don't know the price of your land in tehran, the banks are asking for it. let them ask how much is the price of this so that they have an argument. now i will open an argument the property depends on the different plans that are placed next to that plan and when

it is sold at a low price, what happened in america, which i have a photo of now, i can show you, you can see that part of the land in the middle of the city remains like this racket. they say that because this asset was sold cheaply, it will have a higher price in the future. in the past 6 years , the american government commissioned several economists, and out of these, 3 won the nobel prize. these are the auction methods that exist in iran now , and we actually imitated those countries at one time. we did it, they have changed, this method has not been introduced in iran yet. you see, i myself was responsible for at least 6 years in the process of handing over the assets of the social security organization of the national retirement fund, but no matter what method we used, we saw that in the end we were accused and this accusation could be made.

the expert atmosphere means that this price is not the real price. what are you doing in the us government that has spread in many countries after this ? its simplified form is similar to the disadvantages that you saw on tv, for example in the movies, they say, sir, how much is this land cut, they collect everyone, they say how much, one says, for example, 10 billion, another says, i have 11 billion, but in the government counters, it can't be done so easily , what are they doing, they say, we will come first, the price in fact, the government announces a basic price and says that it will not be lower than this, then anyone who gives a higher price is called the first round. they say that the highest price discovered is, for example, 15 billion tomans, then they collect all the buyers. in some cons, the cons

are repeated 120 times in two weeks until the highest price is discovered. basically, we don't have these regulations in iran, which means you are not allowed to do such a thing, so if a land is sold, a school is sold, the warehouses they have are sold at a price. it is sold low , and because the person who buys it at a low price does not make it productive, he says, "i have this land, in 20 years , it will fetch 10 times the price. you just transferred an asset from the government to the private sector, but that productivity does not happen, and because after some time , it becomes clear that this price is not the real price, because the method does not lead to the real price, the government is accused of corruption and the social capital of the society is harmed. mr. ghorbanzadeh does. how much do you agree with the point that mr. midari put in , you give me orders, you give me two or three orders

, you give me two or three orders with mr. doctor, let's proceed like this. for example, in a religious debate, they say, sir, do you accept god , then we will come to the prophet , and then we will discuss everything. so now it is clear, mr. doctor , there is a problem in unity, they say, sir, the better principle is that there is no god , it will not lead us to unity, no, let's say, after all, it is a partnership or however, sir, it is better to use the government's property, there is no doubt about it. mr. doctor , if i do something anywhere, you can go find it, because let's go ahead with the order, please. thanks. the principle is that there is no doubt that we have some regulations, which are these regulations. it does not allow

us to reach that goal. you started with the examples and entered the pricing, that is , you believe that our way of supply and pricing is the same way. in fact, let's be patient about it as a box , you say that because we have regulations regarding price and sales, we are allowed to make the types you mentioned, for example, in other countries , like the second one you didn't sell, but probably that is what you are thinking of, or it is repetitive or other subjects do not allow this, so we do not have the dynamic to be able to sell the asset at the real price and then let it play its role in the real part of the economy

. after all, the value of the exchange is the final usefulness of it the product is for the consumer, not the amount of work and capital that has been spent, to multiply and divide , let's say, sir, this iron stick is this much , in this order. not all people have access to it, etc. if we assume, for example, a market like the stock market or in fact. a market where there is naturally this competition and transparency, and this property is discussed, its coordinates are offered, it becomes clear that this is an apartment with a thousand square meters of land, a complex or any other complex around it that you you said that elites should be found, etc. if there is transparency and competition , the price that is obtained in that competition is the real price.

it is considered an asset, we cannot say whether it is cheap or expensive, because being cheap and expensive is another word that when you opened the door completely , you said, sir, i will sell it at the highest price, it is meaningless. we have now reached this stage over the years that the biggest criterion of the government is banks, etc., and it feels that if i keep this property, then i will go and renew the land. do or in some other way, this will give me more capital or give me more value in the financial statement, why would i do this, so he will try to keep this and he is actually proud of it. sir, if i sold this, see, it wouldn't have happened like this, he said, "you should be proud that i do n't eat, do a hundred things that you are a slave , and keep it by the same standard." having and

freezing the huge assets that the government has, etc., has caused this cycle, which has one facet , to be the housing issue, which is known to be a real category. it has in our economy and what kind of demand is this , and another part of it, i believe , has affected even the monetary and banking system, that is, this freeze is the freeze that has damaged the entire economy of iran, and we are proud to be in the government position, as you can see, sir. if this was sold, then the same thing has caused that the person who does not have one rial of fixed assets, on the other hand, these assets are frozen in the same way, this inequality is actually increasing, so if we believe about the price of mr. dr. midari that it doesn't work, maybe there are dozens of other methods besides these three methods that you mentioned do we finally believe that if there is transparency and competition, then

the price will be real. it can be discovered that there is a note that some of these assets are the assets that are hectares, the assets that people who do not have enough of this, the sentence of mr. sobhani that was written here, that mr. bayan, everyone should participate . a government or a private group, which actually at least has competition , for which it is necessary to plan , changed the transfer method, made the real estate fund independent , put a ceiling on the problems. he made a different plan to it should be handed over in such a way that this kind of monopoly is not actually created, but we cannot continue to maintain this under the pretext that we do not have dynamic pricing methods . our age reached 40 years, 50 years, 60 years, for whom do you want to keep these?