one of the topics on which experts disagree is the issue of handing over the authority of marketing , regulating the market, monitoring the market to trade unions . i would like to see the report that my colleague is preparing in this regard . we will come back and start a conversation. mr. mohammad sadegh muftah , former deputy official of the ministry , corruption occurs when the economy is state-owned. the economy should be private. and

the government should make policies and the organizations should take the executive responsibility. mr. nasser nabipour, chairman the prices should be in the hands of the union and the organizations, because currently all the price tensions are caused by the lack and excess of production and the problems of market regulation due to inappropriate interventions of the government. mr. mojtaba safaei, head of iran's chamber of guilds, in the current situation where pricing is with the government , some in different markets. they do speculation and brokering, but if pricing is given to guilds, speculation and brokers will be eliminated in the market. mr. hassan hasan khani, an economic expert: when guilds benefit from the market, leaving the prices in their hands is a wrong action, because they take their own interests. they see, not the interests of the people and the buyer. mr. majid hosni moghadam, an economic expert, pricing should be done by the government, because our trade unions, although they have been successful in production

, have not yet reached sufficient maturity in the field of pricing. mr. alireza qasimpour , an economic expert, in the conditions of inflation and economic pressure that is on the people, prices should not be left and prices should be set by organizations. in the current situation , the government should do the pricing of basic goods by itself . well, we saw mohammad elhari's report together . it was based on the opinions of muafghan opponents i asked you, mr. rostgar, what do you think about this handover of the authority to regulate the market , monitor the market , in the name of allah , the most merciful , and the most merciful. in the real sense, it can have a precise effect on you. the process

of regulating the market means creating it from the point of view of supply and demand . whenever we left the market matters to the market itself, it has shown that we got positive results and accurate results. markets different, wherever there is direct or indirect involvement, now there are organizations and organizations that consider themselves involved in market affairs and see that the result of the work was not a favorable result, which means that it can be said that it is a direct example. of goods can cause serious damage to the health of the market . the most important issue that we

see in the market between different trades and economic people is the issue of competition . whenever the competition is healthy, it means not having a special rent group, not having a special price group, not having a healthy competition. formed as a result of this cause healthy competition it is possible that those who want to explain a service or a product can accurately discover the real supply and demand of the price and can help the health of the market. mr. hasanlu, what is your opinion , do you agree or disagree with this incident, in the name of allah , the most merciful , the most merciful? supply and demand can determine the price and bring the market to balance. this is in the condition that there is a definition of the market.

the conditions that are said to be violated for all of our plans are the first condition, we don't have anything called a market in iran in most cases because the market is disturbed because we have adjustment in the name of exchange rate and we have political issues or issues beyond the control of the market that they disrupt the comfort of the market and we can blame the failure of any plan on these factors, so we don't have a market in such a way that can create this balance . we were not successful in the example of the automobile industry, an example of other issues that the market supervisor and regulator has faced many times we have changed, for example, the market of agricultural products, which was once from the ministry of industry to the ministry of jihad, and once from the ministry of agriculture

, now it wants to be transferred to asalaf. the classical definition we have does not exist in our country, mr. rastgar, can you give an example, because now, mr. qasanlu, they said that we did not have a very good situation , we did not have good experiences, you said the opposite. where a product is offered and there is a demand to buy and sell.

because we made exceptions for some effective factors in the market. there is a market. however, there is no justice in the market. i mean, i can say this in the real sense, and unfortunately, sometimes with price fixing, that is, by interfering in market affairs, that is, the same order rate. it is true that they say that where there is an order, there is no market. an order has come, sell a product, and the others will follow. in that case, we can definitely say that there is no market, but there is a market. if the competition is real, all the factors of the market, all the parties.

the market should have an equality in the use of facilities . this market is real and there are more examples. please see your examples for the same experiences. we can see that some of the special companies have special privileges that they offer at what price, at what price, with what number, well , the consumer protection organization is definitely an organization that tends to cover. a lot of topics can't really work. in my opinion, the real market is a market that is in the hands of the private sector, which is the biggest people's organization that we can name in the country, aslafa and kasab community.

and the thing that is being formed in the guild market , mr. hasanlu, you agree with the entry of such organizations and unions to the markets we are talking about. in general, i must tell you that using the capacity of the private sector and the real private sector can help governments a lot , but this help should not replace the inherent duties of the government and governance. what if the allocation of width is the responsibility of the central bank. anyone who registers earlier will be allocated bandwidth faster and will be responsible for monitoring the market let the guilds be the chamber of guilds . what is the need for us to have an entity called the ministry of mining industry and trade? what is the need for us

to have an entity called the ministry of jihad and agriculture ? with this huge burden on the shoulders of the people, the government, and the government , we should shut them down and use the capacity of the private sector. well, it is good to use the capacity of the private sector, but we will also have a conflict of interests . they should represent their own guilds and their own members. facing the government and privileges and now, let the private sector take charge of the negotiations with the government and get concessions , get support, well, in return , we will encourage them to have a supervisory duty. asalaf's support and representation

can be said to be the representative of the guilds and market supervision, which means they should take the side of the people or let the guilds side . i don't think it is very accurate, it is more accurate that the government in the real sense, because we, the private sector, definitely work based on a series of legal rules and regulations , that is, it is not the case that the private sector can do whatever it wants, see, we have articles 36 and 37 of the trade union law, a law that was formulated in the parliament or discussed we have articles 27 and 28 of the law, according to which our trade unions and those who do business must be supervised. in general, the entry of the government into the discussion of entrepreneurship leads to a conflict

of interests. we must define whether governments are allowed to interfere in business and economic affairs or not, and whether the government is responsible for regulation. supervision means sovereignty or that they should go into the details of the issue, where the law is for the government anyway. the duty description said that we all must adhere to this and we believe that the government should exist and be present in general affairs and general policies, but where it is to be done in the implementation department, the government should not interfere in the details because you the details of the entry are exactly the same point that we saw that in most cases when the government has entered, i mean the government. at all, it is not a specific government , however, the process of price control is possible with governments

good intentions come in, but the reality is that economics has nothing to do with intentions and methods. economics has come to determine exactly what factors can be effective in controlling the market, that is, when we want to accurately convey the price of a product to the consumer, it is exactly the supply. and it is a request that specifies the price of a product, how much, how much production, and what price can be appropriate for that product. we have a problem here , and this problem must be solved. do you think that if we have the authority for

the market works for the consumer and for the economic operator in that trade. first of all, atakaf does not have all chain monitoring tools. the chamber of guilds starts with guild productions and the last explainers and sellers of this industry chain are the upstream ones. chicken and the discussion of market hatching and economics says that when you don't have demand or the price is not affordable , you can reduce your supply , what about killing one-day-old chickens ? this is the result of economics. pull it because they are not economical after the chain

, for whatever reason, what is the task now, and we had an unsuccessful experience, for example, our entrepreneurship is the government's entrepreneurship as much as possible, but monitoring is not entrepreneurship, it is monitoring the dignity of the existence of the government. monitoring and regulating relations between actors, suppliers, producers and different departments. we had the experience of issuing business cards. we set up a chamber of commerce . did any corruption occur? we can say seriously that the monitoring and procedures were the responsibility of the private sector. it was said that the business card is for one year use or rental, or the issue of importing porsches. face not being able to get a license from the private sector, so

what was the role of the ministry of industry as a balancing, supervising and regulating body? we say that the chamber of commerce can't put all the responsibility on the guilds and the market with the current tools and what we want, it can't achieve its goal even now, and as you said, it's an intentional thing. the intention of the guilds is to play a role and improve the living conditions of the people, but because they don't want the tools. how long will it take us to sit here and say that we have enough tools and enough authority? atakaf was not able to perform his duties and the market situation became more chaotic. thank you. do you not have enough tools for monitoring or do you have them? the fact is that anyway we need tools to make our monitoring more accurate

. tell me exactly if this tool is not available definitely monitoring. you see, we are in the whole process, i.e. production, supply , pricing, supply and monitoring, i.e. these five issues that i mentioned are important issues that need to be planned in our economy. the fact of the matter is that we are really capable based on the tools we have now to cover the entire market. no, no one can hide this , but it's not all about snafus. we have other organizations like the chamber of commerce. the reason why the national license portal was proposed was not because only the private sector is issuing licenses

or, god forbid, having problems. especially, for example , god forbid, there are violations now, but these violations have also happened in government departments, that is , when a number of people get a privilege, then definitely not many people can reach that privilege. the economy is free, we haven't experienced these in the real sense, so you say it's a tool. unions and organizations do not have the supervision of the markets , they do not have all the powers, but part of our powers , based on a series of laws, we can have supervisions, but the fact is that all the decisions in this area are not our responsibility, that is, it is not in our power. giving an example that if the production of a

product is not enough, how can we explain in the discussion. if we find a lot of input, it means that all of these need to be forgiven, because one of the things that is going to be handed over is the regulation of the market, the supervision of the market market means before there is supervision . for example, in production, you say that market regulation and marketing are also assigned. look, market regulation has a definition . when we say market regulation, we must have all the issues that are effective in market regulation, that is, we have all the tools at our disposal. we don't have a part of these tools, which is the main part, we don't have it at all. sometimes our colleagues in the market have no influence on the so-called price determination of goods. as the head of the tehran chamber of guilds , i am not present in most of these meetings. where to get the price and the amount of supply

how to determine the price of goods with what mechanism? by what method , is there a balance between supply and demand in the real sense, these are issues that , if resolved and planned, i think that anyone can do their job description correctly, mr. hasanlu, what do you think? market regulation and marketing considering that they basically do not have enough tools to say market monitoring , how do you think they can do the work in the other two categories, market regulation that was determined. it means that you can predict what you will be doing in 6 months from now you will have problems when the organizations do not have complete data from top to

bottom. in 6 months, the demand of the private sector is to increase access. it is expected that the chamber of commerce, chamber of commerce and the cooperative chamber will be merged in order to complete this chain. what happens next is the same as in formation. the ministry of industry, mines, and trade fell. we said that the production and explanation of this whole chain should be under the management of a unit. after 10 years, you will say that it should be separated from each other. how much time do we have to integrate once and separate again and different policies? face let's compare, so when we can't have access to full supervision and... we will face problems again in marketing.

we pay attention to why this task has come from the ministry of jihad, agriculture and the ministry of industry, mining and trade to the guilds of the chamber of guilds. why do they make this proposal ? they have all the duties and all the powers , but now they have the same duties and powers of all three departments. he has both marketing and different departments at his disposal, why is he not responsible? he wants to get help from the chamber of trade unions , which has caused him various problems. now , according to the trade union law, article 72, note, if i'm not mistaken, note 6 and note 7 is a part of the incomes resulting from the supervision and crimes

of the government and institutions that exist now. they should give an answer in front of the powers we gave them . after the statement, let's discuss new plans whether they are needed or not. very well, mr. rastekar has now been accepted by the organization and the asalaf chamber . it is correct . we don't have these tools that you say, why did you accept basically recently anyway with some agreements it was decided between the chamber of commerce and the ministry of jihad that these powers

should be given to the chamber of commerce. basically, i am saying that as a private sector, in the description of our legal duties, we have the authority to supervise and regulate the market as a sector. privately, this so-called contradiction with the job description of the ministry of jihad and the so-called position does not exist. the ministry does not have silence. well , it has reached this point that the powers of the chamber of trade unions in this area will be increased and strengthened. well, recently, for example , the honorable minister approved the position that the cars are under the so-called control. snuff rooms let these to be able to monitor more is why we are constantly doing trial and error. how much should we pay for issues that have already been experienced ? this is one of our problems. in any case, taking the authority of the private sector itself causes many issues and incurs irreparable costs

, so if you have more authority, let the authority to regulate the market, monitor the market , be the responsibility of the guilds and associations , it is the right thing to do. you can define more authority , for example, see how much more authority , we want more authority according to the law of authority in some cases, in previous governments, we have seen that the private sector's power has been taken, where it has been taken, where they want to decide to approve a price, where they want to determine the task description of this sector in a specific economic issue. unfortunately, we have seen that these so-called issues have been dealt with in a tasteful way, one of the issues.

even though the authority will increase in this way and finally the authority to regulate the market and the same topic we are discussing, the marketing of the market will be completely under the responsibility of the snafs and organizations. we have organized our guilds and associations, and whether it was enough or not, according to article 57 of the law on trade unions and unions. they have the task of monitoring gram sales. to what extent has the problem been solved? how successful were they? now let the people judge how many of their complaints and how many of their complaints about guilds and guilds have been resolved. article 62 they say that the supply of contraband goods is prohibited. accompanying and coming to work in this matter and using their duties and powers

later. article 71, which we used to have a mechanized fund, how much to accompany to create the fund mechanized, after article 71, which should have set up the mechanized fund of our guilds, it was not implemented and it became the law of the warehouse system and store terminals, that is, we did not implement it, the law that existed, then we have various powers, according to article 72 of the trade union law, we registered a complaint. if it is registered, it should be checked by the relevant trade unions within 10 days, and the report will be announced whether or not there has been a violation. if there is a violation, now i have a legal relationship. i gave it for three or four months, still in hand well, when with these powers.

we couldn't implement all of the current laws . we want new powers, what should we do ? for now, we should be accountable to the extent that we have powers . dostagan, i am paying attention to mr. hasanlu 's previous statements that they are tools. he wants monitoring means he wants enough tools. the fact is that we don't have enough monitoring tools and expenses for this so-called monitoring. really, the sales transparency system refers to the seven articles of the note. now, i will add the note to the seven articles of article 72. part of this so-called supervision that is carried out

leads to crimes for the offending units . we haven't reached the snub rooms, the lack of profit, only one-way spending regarding this mechanized cash register, which was the next issue anyway, well, now it has been decided that the law of store endings and our logistics system have agreements and, anyway, recently, there have been a lot of meetings. we had an important issue with the tax administration. our classes in any case , they are being trained daily. some of our industries are subject to the implementation of this law and they are implementing it correctly, and the implementation of this law itself can solve many of the problems of our economic units. but whether the supply of smuggled goods by.

can someone do it, do the snafs really play a major role in this issue ? look at all these bazaars and day markets that are being interfered in our affairs in the real sense by other people . our markets are injected and to the term is explained. currently, many of these bazaars that are formed in different places are beyond our control. how many tools do we have ? do organizations like the municipality, etc., how much do they listen to us ? that the head of a samfi union is now selling gas shop goods in his store

, you agree that the supervision was not enough