[000:00:00;00] it's not true, it's true, you have to define this more authority exactly, for example , see how much more authority, we want more authority based on the authority law, we have seen in some cases in previous governments that the private sector has been taken away, where it was taken, where readers should decide in order to approve a price where they want to determine the extent of the task description of this department in a specific economic issue. asalaf chambers and organizations no, it is not, no, no, it means that you should see that the role of the government should be to monitor economic behavior. thank you, mr. hasanlu

. the regulation of the market and the issue we are discussing, marketing , should be the responsibility of the trade unions and organizations. we must first see how much responsibility and authority we have given to the guilds, trade unions and our organizations, and whether it has been enough or not. based on article 57 of the trade union law , the chamber of guilds and the union have the duty to monitor gram sales. to what extent has the issue been resolved? they were successful, now the people will judge. let them know how many of their complaints and how many of their complaints have come to a conclusion from the guilds and guilds. article 62 says that the supply of contraband goods is prohibited. how many guilds have been accompanying and working on this issue and using their duties and powers after article 71. as we used to have a mechanized fund

, how much support to create a mechanized fund. the fever became the law of the warehouse system and store terminals, that is, we did not implement it, the law that existed, then we have various powers, according to article 72 of the trade union system law, a complaint has been registered that if it should be registered within 10 days by guilds. the relevant union should be investigated and the report should be announced to see if there has been a violation or not. if there is a violation , now i have a legal relationship with one of sanfit's units for the past 34 months . with these current legal powers, we could not implement all of them. we want the new powers, what should we do

? for the time being, we should be responsible within the limits of the powers we have. next, let's give more authority to snaf , mr. dastegan. look, i pay attention to mr. hasanlu 's previous statements that he said that he wants monitoring tools, which means he wants enough tools. the fact is that we have enough. the monitoring tools and expenses that we don't need for this so-called monitoring are actually the seven articles of the note.

this is not the year for us. the government has not paid the money, which means that we have not received the rooms of asna spending one-way regarding this mechanized fund , which was the next issue anyway, well, now it has been decided that the law of store endings and the shipping system, we have memorandums of understanding, and anyway , recently we had very important meetings with the tax affairs organization. in any case , they are being trained daily, some of our classes are subject to the implementation of this law and it is being implemented correctly , and the implementation of this law itself can solve many of the problems of our economic units , but whether the supply of contraband goods by who does it really play a major role in this?

you have to look at all these bazaars and the day markets that are being run by other people, as i say , they are really interfering in our affairs in the real sense. currently, many of these bazaars that are formed in different places are beyond our control. how many tools do we have? do organizations like the municipality and others listen to us? who should do this? if i say that the head of a trade union is now selling gashab products in his store, i will accept it if the supervision is not sufficient, appeals are also responsible, the daily market is too large, it is possible that the head

of an office may commit a violation, this is not the reason that we want to give an example, it is possible that anyone can commit a violation, but what we want to say, sir, is not supervision. there is, but supervision is not enough. adequate supervision requires adequate facilities. we are doing this monitoring to the best of our ability. for example, since the beginning of 1402 until now , we have visited, inspected , and supervised nearly 123,000 inspections. part of which led to plumb entering the forgiveness trade for crimes and according to the law becoming law do all traditional means face -to-face . yes, that's it. no, that's the way that the law allows us. is it systematic

or face-to-face ? from the treatment , should we not have where, that is, where they want to make a decision about an issue, in any case , economic pricing. they should regulate , import or produce a product. shouldn't unions have a role there? we have included what percentage of unions in these issues? more than maybe 20% of us paid attention to this , the representative of the private sector, in the true sense of the snuff chamber and trade unions, are not bringing associations with the smallest number and the least effective of these people in our society on the issue that our unions should be strong.

our union should be strong, we should give them enough tools, we should have strong supervision , we should ask them to do their homework. unfortunately, this did not happen. happy ramadan, we have formed working groups by the order of minister samte we organized a deputy show and said that our eid night bazaar, bazaar, and exhibition are economic units that are in the city . we are not just big open squares, we have thousands and thousands of economic units. what is going to happen, mr. hasanlu ? so far, we may come to the conclusion that the snuff room of our organizations

does not have the necessary infrastructure. we don't have enough tools . we also chose shab eid market for testing. a plan we know that the assumptions are not correct. we want to transfer the supervision of the market of eid night and ramadan, which is in front of us , to the organizations. the organizations that we said do not have tools , the organizations that do not have enough strength and infrastructure, the organizations that you do not look at in tehran, in the cities, our unions won three or four different issues due to the fact that their number of members is less. we formed a union , how can they distinguish the issues of different unions that are one union and make decisions in the cities, only tehran? well, this shows that we currently

have the right time to implement the plan at a time in the future when we had the facilities, we had the infrastructure, and now the previous width of the chamber of guilds with its current capacities is not legal. dad, how far has it come, later we can talk about whether or not to move the supervision to the organizations. now you think that i am just saying my point. again , it is not the supervision of the markets. you think that the chambers, the organizations, the trade unions. they can regulate the market, they can do marketing, or there is not enough authority in that area, the infrastructure is not necessary the field of marketing and higher chains in terms of market regulation, market regulation now, mr. raskar said that he has been the representative of some associations in some meetings, so

he has not done the necessary work according to their belief, so far, tomorrow will be the area of ​​conflict and conflict between the organizations. what will happen, the issue of merging or separating the duties of these will arise, so we will have a problem in an upstream area again. for now, my suggestion is to come and see what we have done according to the current capacities and later decide to carry out the work. how much we advance in the higher ranks. with the rooms we will face different organizations and different issues. we, our governing and government institutions , cannot have a good entry into the affairs of their sub-categories. the example we have now is how much the national governor's organization can exercise governance and exercise supervision over producers . and an institution whose head is the vice president

does not allow our productions, how do we want to enter into this field with organizations and institutions that do not have governance powers, institutions that do not have enough tools, and find a regulation in let's do this area and unfortunately we will fail here too, mr. rastehgar , do you agree that we will fail in regulating the market and marketing in this way or not, do you think that guilds and organizations can handle it. in general, we must come to see the outcome of these decisions that have been made for the current method , the outcome of this matter, whether it was useful for our economic society or not, in any case , we must accept that one day all the affairs of the people will be left to themselves. however, article 44 of the constitution has emphasized authority and leadership in the past few years

considering the economic issues, which is the motto of the year, setting this goal shows that we must trust the private sector, that is, we must accept the cost of this one day , leave all economic flows to the private sector, not completely, but completely now. do you agree with mr. hasanlu's statement or not? it must happen that this event must be left to the private sector . don't say that the trade unions can't do this now. no, by the way, i'll say it because we may not have a detailed knowledge about the organization and trade unions. guild a union may have between 1 to 25 and 30 trade unions operating there, where

there are experts and famous people who have sufficient and sufficient experience in that union, they serve the people, that is , exactly the decision they want to make, see me as snuff chamber , i have field and practical business experience in the field of work, which means i am an expert . i know exactly what our problems are, what are our problems , i am talking about the private sector. well, this must happen, the duties of the private sector are assigned to it by the law , we do not assign them. we say that there is a consideration today, for example, a special problem of the corona virus, tomorrow, for example god forbid, it's another issue. anyway, we have to pay this fee. it doesn't cost anything . we should leave people's affairs to themselves, but we should have sufficient supervision on the matter. mr. hasanlu , i did not agree with your statement. you

say that unions can, organizations can, the history shows something else, i said, chamber of guilds, no, other organizations, well , you said that participating in the decision-making of various institutions , in the regulation of the market, in pricing, well, if we want to include examples. we can become members. well, they have been members. what happened? it did not bring the satisfaction of the guilds. if guilds too let's talk about the problems. well , in the home appliance industry, we have now left the regulation of the market, for example , they want to ask opinions from different organizations and attend different meetings . are

gas heaters that have low energy efficiency and are against the law not produced? down to the bottom , can you not find a heater with the h&g energy class on the market? there are no accompanying guilds for the implementation of this law has been accompanied by the association. can various institutions and organizations from top to bottom be able to help in this area of ​​not doing good? thank you for proposing a good position anyway . you can see the discussion of household appliances as an example . which determines the type of product, whether this product is first grade or low grade, the fact is that people's financial ability determines the type of product

, the name of that product. the law says that it is forbidden to produce low-grade heaters. the difference in the second issue is that trade unions really are decisions were not made. now, for example, the head of the home appliances union should come and say something like this, sir. a producer came to a basement or a non-standard workshop , the product came and explained whether the union approves , definitely does not approve, definitely rejects, but where they want to make detailed decisions , i do not invite the associations, i say not to invite them. but

you may not know that a union is made up of thousands of experts, that the unions are not really used. they also invite people as experts, but an association can never replace the union with the tools it has. the experience you have can help you in the field of auto parts. where

was the reason for the failure to identify the manufacturer and the unions? now, the unions that you call spare parts, by the way, are one of the strongest unions in the field of supervision. they don't sell counterfeit goods . let's go and see what happened. union members and members who are now the president of the union will not sell illegal goods and counterfeit goods that are produced by the underground without a license. no, we didn't see it , we didn't see it in the real sense, but maybe it's under the stairs as you say or secret and unofficial production workshops , whether it is the fight against contraband or non -standard goods, all the fight is against the snuff room and

the union, i'm sorry, you said that you don't have enough tools, give us the tools , give us the authority, definitely we pass. in the implementation process. give more value to our unions, make more programs for asalaf chambers . as the head of snaf chamber , this is the first program i have come to on economic issues. i participated , so let sima tell me how many times they invited me, not only in this area, but also in other areas

, and we have the same problems in many buildings of the chamber of guilds of iran. tehran, unions, organization, and that it can be checked, i would like to say that as the head of the chamber of trade unions, you invited me to several meetings to discuss economic issues , the relevant union, the relevant organization , the relevant association, in this same program, we are talking about performance. there is no sound, but it can be checked. complete not used tools. that is, until now

there has been no acceptable performance in this field in the issues we have mentioned. spare parts are one number, two numbers are not one hundred to one million, ten million. the volume of the spare parts economy is about 3 billion dollars, which is 70% to 80% of that. what the associations say and the ministry of industry says. it is outside the rules and it is considered as smuggling, it is illegal and it is smuggling. smuggling does not mean importing from outside the borders. a product that is not in the network and is not official is contraband. well, 70% is an illegal class. what happened , did he have material from the law of instruments and could he have used it or not. so, experience has shown that at least in these two or three issues that we mentioned , he could not use the current tools and

did not have full support. i said, don't they sell 70-80 there is no number that cannot be hidden , that is, all those who sell fake goods are not members of the union , the union could not make them members and bring them together, and give an example . give this guild an example. what is the resistance of the gold guild to the implementation of the laws, the role of the union. how much was he able to accompany in the implementation of the rules? we didn't close the market for one or two or three years. look, every guild and every so-called economic issue has its own discussion, its own problems, its own planning , and its own monitoring process. you give the example of the gold guild. for several years

, he spent a lot of time and effort to provide those services. why did this happen? the same problem that i mentioned is that they were going to make a decision for a part of the economic community. the manager. chambers and people who can help to do what they want to do are more specific. definitely, a series of decisions that happened in the field of the gold market have concerns of the members of this guild, which i do not want to mention in this meeting. the demands of this guild were ignored. well then with the follow-ups we did, well, the follow-up in the parliament , in the government, in different places, well, this trade union is now

doing their work, but their work has not been resolved , this is where we want to make a decision for an economic group, a trade union, a union , the head of that union must be people who we should invite those who have opinions to listen to them, not to take them to make a law and come to this law and say, well, mr. sanf. mr. union, you should implement it. well, this will cause problems. we will have problems. where do we have problems? all i want to say is that at the beginning of the matter , it is good that the law is a barrier to the society. it should be comprehensive, it is a good law that adapts to that economy and that size of economy , mr. hasanlu, many of the laws we have are good laws, many countries are successful , but is this law without any forecast, without any

training, and that we how long should it cost? let's say, for the implementation of some laws , do you think that the smuggled goods that are in the country now , who is smuggling these goods, who is bringing this contraband into the country, what tools are they using , what monitoring has been done, and this contraband has come back into the cycle again? we have several reasons, one of them the reason is that the smuggled goods are cheaper than the goods we sell to people. we supply who sets the price of this product in the market? who sets this prime rate? where does this rate come from? why do people tend to buy cheap goods? you mentioned some goods are related to people's lives. we have this product in food. we have in the automobile industry.

we have it in home goods. the same heater that you gave as an example. these are the parts that are sometimes smuggled in non-standard form. maybe you don't know many of these goods from our eastern border with one brand and one it enters the country with a domestic name or no name at all and is packed here. we have this preparation, we have this ability, but we need both tools and support. we this we are preparing and announcing our readiness that in all fields, we have opinions, we have experience , we have 135 trade unions in tehran , we have several hundreds of thousands of trade unions, i hope that, god willing, this capacity and social capital will be used well. in the end, the main burden of the country's employment

is on the shoulders of the country's guilds. said the economic turn the country of explanation is the responsibility of the guilds. this is a huge capacity. we must use this capacity properly. macroeconomic issues and policy implementation are not the same team, two teams, and the same group. they are very broad. each one has its own characteristics. each one requires a specific decision. but in general, as we see, the conditions are not ready to come to an agreement. if we succeed in expanding and don't suddenly put this burden on the shoulders of the guilds and the leaders can't perform their current duties as well, and this section won't be under more pressure, thank you very much to both of them. the guests of the program who

participated in this special election debate program and all viewers. well , the higher program that you were with us until this moment , sir, this is being replayed twice

. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the public sessions of the majlis will be resumed from today in two shifts, in the morning and in the evening, after a week of closure for the disobedience of the representatives to the constituencies. the budget bill for next year of the whole country is supposed to be reviewed in the open meeting of the parliament this week. finally, after months of discussion and investigation the bill came and went between the parliament government. this bill