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in their recent meetings, the revolution has a real competition one of the important elements of the election has been mentioned in the explanation, meaning that the field is open for the presence of all different and diverse views in the economic, cultural and social fields so that all these views can have an active and real competition in the big election contest. and the formation of the body. today's topic is the discussion of article 41 of the labor law . we want to talk to those who support and oppose it. basically, there is this point of view that if you are higher in an election , they agree that the minimum wage and salary of workers should be proportional to the area where they live and work. let it be determined in my opposition they say this shouldn't happen with the special program . well, here in the special studio of the higher program , mr. javani, a member of hit, the director of iran's higher employer center and a member of the labor council, are present. also, mr.

tajik, member of the wage committee and representative of workers in the supreme labor council. i want to start with mr. javani and this question, mr. javani, do you agree to determine salaries regionally? why? in the name of god, i offer my courtesy and greetings to you and dear viewers. article 41 of the new labor law states that bananas should be determined based on different regions or industries. in hashem's note. mentioned which, looking at inflation, should provide the minimum livelihood of a household, anyway, in the last 30 years, this discussion of different industries and different people has not been taken into account. various things have been done. finally, in the recent meeting where we had a discussion, he approved this and that the banana committee and the specialized committee should review the researches that have been done. and

the result will finally be presented in the work show, and now we are waiting for my second meeting, which is tomorrow , monday, to examine these specialized and challenging discussions. god willing, in the summation meeting and the next meeting , work will be discussed. well, since you are in the program as a supporter, please tell me the reason for your agreement . see, there are different reasons . in fact, i want to say in detail that the challenges that have been implemented in different countries have positive and negative points . currently , i don't want to talk too much about whether we are exempt or against, because the research points and works that have been examined will be examined by experts. finally, the conclusion is yes and no this law is article 41 of the law, but it does not mean

that the regional wage is lower than the minimum wage, that is , sometimes it is perceived in the society that the regional wage will cause the worker to be paid less than the minimum wage. . there is no such thing at all. at least there is a group of employers who actually support this case. they are not looking for the fact that they will be paid less than the national wage that is actually determined annually. now why do you agree with it? we determine that the labor law is different from article 1 to article 203 it doesn't matter that in fact the workshop is one person, the workshop is 10 people, the workshop is thousands of people , in fact, one rule is considered for everyone, this causes that sometimes a decision made there includes everyone. they turn an employer into a worker in one night because his habits are the habits that actually happened in that workshop, the underground workshop, the workshops that actually do not follow the labor law or cannot insure the worker , the union workshop actually has negative consequences that its effects should be examined to see if the regional wage or

the wage of different industrial regions has an effect on different scales does it have a positive or a negative effect? ​​thank you. again , we did not get the answer to the main question from you. at least, mr. tajik, why are you against the regional determination of moz? please tell me. in the name of god , i offer my greetings and courtesy to the esteemed viewers of the higher program, and to your excellency, mr. bozor, nasab, the respected editor and presenter . well, the question that i think for me after 33 years , mr. javani, is that this is happening. the question arises for me here, why reasons raised. what has become of this issue in the last two or three years? do we want to enforce the law? those who are following this matter, want to create meetings experts help the society covered by the labor law . what is their purpose? in my opinion, the speech chapter of the law

in note d of article 41 clearly explains note d of article 41. and he clearly stated that the minimum wage should be enough to cover the living expenses of the workers. certainly, from the point of view of the labor community and labor organizations, we cannot take a part of the law, interpret it by voting, and insist that it be based on different industries and regions. a very simple person with a very basic education. when he studies article 41 , he can deal with the requirements of the legislator. we don't need a lawyer. we don't need anyone it is not necessary for him to interpret article 41. with a simple look, the legislator's emphasis in note 2 of article 41

is clear. in my opinion, if we want to solve the problem , as a teacher, i can say that we should simplify the problem, forgive the problem, and make it easier . it should be understood by the whole society, mr. jovani , we cannot discuss and explain wages to the general public with expert discussions at higher levels in the wage committee or meetings of the supreme labor council . the number is 7,300,000 tomanos , this number is for the work of one month, one worker per day, 8 44 hours per week is considered after

paying the insurance premium. if we round it, we will reach the number of 600, mr. javani. well, dividing it by 30, it will be 226 thousand tomans. according to the labor law, the number considered for a family is 3.3 tenths, that is, this number if we divide 226,000 tomans into 3 shares , it will be 68,000 tomans. i think that it would be better to explain the wage set for 1402, why now there are oppositions with the region. well , when you let me complete this topic, in my opinion, a person, a worker, must be a genius , a young man, who can earn 68 thousand tomans a day.

the cost of edible and non-edible items, housing , clothing, and education for himself and his family should be covered by shamin. it happens when the law is implemented correctly. as i told the viewers, we are not against the law. i am a tajik, as a representative of workers or labor organizations in the supreme labor council, no one is against the correct implementation of article 41, but i cannot forgive this. i am an observer that a part of the law is followed by a certain group. we must see what interests are behind this word. thank you, really. we seek to implement the correct regional wage law let it be implemented, let the worker get his right, mr.

devani , yes, see, i will give an explanation about article 41 that mr. tajik mentioned. personally, we believe right now that with the number of 7,300,000 tomans, now above the sixth, the life of a family of three people really does not revolve, that is, we all know that, after all, we also live in this society . but there is a discussion in the partner article of the labor law that says the minimum position for different places and different industries. in my discussion of livelihood, i will cover the topics that actually make up the livelihood of a family . i will explain to you that here you will understand that the main part of the government is actually influential, not the employer. the first issue is the food that a family he needs to actually provide for the salary he receives during the month . the issue of clothes and shoes, the issue of housing, water, electricity, gas , article 149 of the labor law and the constitution

is the duty of the government, that suitable land is suitable housing for carfam. it is the government that has given cheap land to the worker, in fact, health and treatment, article 147 of the labor law and the constitution, 30% of workers and employers pay for the right. is it possible to get insurance for supplementary insurance ? is it possible that the worker has not received his salary immediately, his insurance will collect 30 cash fees , he will not breathe enough even for a month, it will be 31 days in one month, immediately there are crimes, he will be assigned this duty that article 147 of the labor law and the constitution means that when 30% insurance is paid, neither the worker nor the employer has anything else as insurance it should not have strange supply and payment. this is what is happening . it is the responsibility of the government to provide public and cheap criticism that the workers of the society, including the carfa workers, can use or

pay for regional wages. we are talking about the livelihood that we are referring to, and we are finally talking about our livelihood. we are talking about the government's communication, the guardian's discussion . our discussion is that the basic salary, the minimum salary of a worker in a metropolis, in a capital, or for example in a remote village, should be the same . mr. tajik should not say that he has someone's interests he agrees. now, if you are present as a supporter , please explain it. no, i did not say it at all. i first said that the regional wage does not mean that the worker's payment is less than the minimum wage . the meaning of regional wage or different industries is that when we have a small-scale workshop , the income is less. we cannot do this with a large workshop with several hundred employees, which just now, when the salary was increased to 27 or 57 last year, we do not have labor force, especially in industry and services. they are facing the problem of labor shortage

not only 27, maybe 57, 60% payment, the problem is not the labor society or kafa, that the wages are low, sometimes the costs that i explained are imposed on the employer and the worker, and the worker is forced to receive them. let's go to rent a house, go to the discussion of treatment, go to the discussion of education, go to the discussion of transportation in different areas, what if you are a workshop, for example, suppose our different regions have a stronger industrial debate in the provinces that have the advantage. for example, in fact, the industry is weaker there, the issue of services and business is stronger there, naturally , the use of manpower is higher, when higher salaries and benefits are paid, the workshops that are located there are exposed to damage, it is possible that they will be closed, it is possible that the workforce get fired if this issue is raised on different levels, it is this, but this does not mean that in fact, we

will pay less than the minimum labor law. for example , the issue of housing, one of the issues that was raised in the research was that the cost of buying or renting housing in tehran , naturally. or alborz province with a weaker province it's different many times over. how should we do this? naturally, i myself think that paying 900 thousand tomans or 500 thousand tomans or 1500 won't have much effect. in fact, mr. tajik said that his region means that explaining your opinion, see exactly the difference. labor organizations and social partners, the government and employers , in the word requirement, you should see in the note of mr. javani, nowhere in the law does it require that inflation is higher than or lower than inflation. please excuse me and say something in parentheses, because our discussion is getting scattered we first talk about this salary let's talk about different regions, then

let's talk about the ax and there are other things, sir , should article 41 be completed, then let's go to the areas of the country where you can live with 7,300 now, we say 7,300 for the areas that you consider it now for example, since we are discussing a regional issue, you can assume it, assuming that the number is an acceptable number, assuming that we reserve it, we have to see that it is a region. you can see how many years of experience my servant and

other friends in the supreme labor council have on this point, that the implementation one part of the law of being locked has another part of the law, i say 33 this year, we were looking for the cost of living to be provided, the banana should be based on the cost of living, that's right , mr. jovani menti, tell me how much is the cost of living for a family of three shares.

the thing that mr. javani said about the small workshop and work. the big workshop , which has nothing to do with the regional position and the industry, is a different industry, and the open industry is a separate topic, maybe in a document, a small workshop, a big workshop, you did not separate this, my point is this, we must first reach that minimum, mr. elders , giving the minimum means we sat in a bachelor's meeting saying, sir, the minimum wage for the lowest level of the country is arialeh, which means specifying the cost of living in the meeting. the banana committee will come next. now let's consider the country to be regionalized. two defaults are from the social partners. now, the research center of the parliament and the ministry of economy have been proposed in the expert meetings. he proposed that only housing rights

should be variable, right, mr. javani, that will be the next step. i have a question about this from you and other friends , why do they ignore the requirement of the law , answer this first, mr. javani, then let's go to what let me tell you what are the disadvantages of regional wages in your country. please, sir, look at the topic of my logic . now you asked me a question. reasonable wages or wages of scales. the number is not known because, sorry, unofficial jobs do not have statistics, official jobs do have statistics

, we have a few million workers who work in small workshops on a regular basis or seasonally , and they do not have informal workers , freelance workers, an english term for this is freelancer. there are people who work for themselves and insurance after all, they don't use anything . the workers working in underground workshops , anyway, we don't want to go far. these same productions , which are actually in the city of tehran, you should visit them. they are labor-oriented, maybe they charge more than the minimum, but they don't actually have insurance. they don't have stable work , or they themselves recognize that one month in this workshop and one month in that workshop, these are the works. the same lack of attention to article 41 and the comments have come and said that for different regions and industries when we can, now i still agree. they really said many times that we agree that we should come based on the minimums. let's decide on a general basis so that we don't have any defects in our labor law, considering that we shouldn't pay all the minimums, i

'll go back to the explanations i gave about the articles of the labor law and the constitution . the worker is forced to use his own income to rent housing, when he has a problem with his treatment, he is forced to use meat, chicken, and rice from a part of his basket to come to discuss treatment. or the discussion of hamlag or the internet or the discussion of education, we cannot ignore it, let's say, because in fact, at least mashhad is not guaranteed, so let's set a national trend and free ourselves. this is the easiest thing that has been done in the last 30 years. we can engage ourselves. let's not discuss anything. let's say that we are at least a national issue. peace be upon you, mr. tajik . i didn't get the answer to my question, but the answer to the question. mr. javani has been raised, i will share it with my friends. see

, he is one of the people who had more insured people when mozad 57 was added. it was much more than other years. we have the disadvantage that we cannot increase the salary because the government itself is the biggest employer. we are actually in the supreme labor council. the great workers are alone, the employers and the government are part of the same group because the government itself is the biggest employer. certainly , we do not get that right in the meetings of the supreme labor council or the wage committee. i have said many times that i

have no objection to the correct implementation of the law. but i can't use just one word . i say, why don't we pay the living expenses of the workers as handouts? there is no subordinate, problems arise. is that right, young man? this is what you are talking about. that's why you as a representative of the employer community. the employer does not stay in the higher work councils because two people agree another solution, why don't you accept that according to the two wages, you provide a livelihood . yes, i can say a livelihood. your answer is yes. i was explaining, so please say that these are not related. it is true that a family, when it lives for a month , needs health care, needs to rent housing , clothes, food, use of public transportation, communication , entertainment, education, now once a month , it goes to a restaurant and miscellaneous goods and

services . it can actually pay at least the banana of all how effective can the government and the government provide these things? if you assume that transportation is cheap , you will not go towards buying a private car or with the savings that it is. he doesn't pay for housing, he doesn't pay more rent, all this has an effect, if the government really comes to help us, prepare the government and our work under its structure, naturally, i want to give an explanation . we are not opposites at all. there is no concept of labor and expertise without each other. now i have the best technology if there are no workers in the workshop , there is no point in me investing billions of tomans in the most up-to-date. in fact, i have a picture of a trained skilled worker. when there is no workshop , they don't really know what training is. we must stand together. it is possible at all, in

fact, in the discussion of labor law reform , we said that our problem now is the issue of a temporary contract , a permanent contract. big they are facing the problem of attracting labor force. anyway , the summary is that the talks can definitely help the government, the government can help , and finally, it can help you. finally, why do you think it is useful to determine the minimum salary regionally? please see the explanation i gave for the same . we see the minimum wage as the same for everyone in the labor law, which means that it has been 33 years since the labor law of 1969 . there is a different worker, we are discussing the regions of his pair together. different or different industries, we have the same pair, we see today's issue is the program of different regions, but the pair is not different at all, i said that our different industrial regions, when the minimum wage is determined

, it is possible to have the same wage of 57. one of the provinces came and said 30% compared to last year. we had an increase in the insured, which means that the salary of 27 has caused an increase of 30% of the insured. no, this cannot be generalized . actually, there are various reasons. in fact, medical expenses are the issue of continuous retirement . maybe these are people who do not work continuously . i am insured, i want to say that the reason we are looking for this or we support the fact that we must move in this direction that now if it doesn't happen this year, in the next years, which will be different for different industries , we should be able to provide maximum coverage, in fact, to the workshops, to the really small workshops from the employer . let's not turn them into workers. anyway , it was the experience of last year, which was 57. finally , there were employers who actually had one, two or three workers, because the cost of the finished price in services is higher than in the industry, they had to reduce the number of workers or reduce the hours. have or at all

fire force, let them work themselves. mr. tajik, you think what are the disadvantages of determining the minimum salary regionally? i repeat again , if we simplify the issue, it will be very easy for the dear viewers of the program to understand. it was definitely in grade one. the cities with higher inflation were placed in the second region. i have a question for you . then, the whole country became 6 regions. the question is which regions and how will it be done in terms of inflation and living expenses . it was an expert work that respected experts. ministry of economy

done with a very positive view. but it means that the country is zoned between 1 and 6, in the order that the costs are higher in those cities, either the rent should be higher, or i said the housing allowance should be higher, for example, tehran province's border line with central province is on the tehran highway, you can come after the new city. parand becomes the border line between tehran and central province , those who are in parand city. many of them are working in saveh industrial co., or even, excuse me , they are working in a workshop 2 kilometers away . the border is for central province. the resident of tehran province is paying the fees according to tehran province. in which province is he working? central province , where the difference in the level of expenses with tehran is several floors

. you assume arial, central province , aymin hai, excuse me, which other worker works in that factory , he says, i live in tehran, every morning, for example, i drive 50, 30 kilometers, 40 kilometers, or even 5 kilometers, the border line between tehran and central province. we gave a very simple example , we have this issue in all the cities, well karfer has seen the zoning of central province a few hours below. but according to the central province, it wants young workers where does the other party live in tehran province? this is the first problem. it means that i pay the expenses of tehran province . i pay in central province . it is not impossible, the same person is gone, where are you working

, the hands of the center. he says that i had 28 years of good insurance coverage in tehran province, now my salary has not increased according to the framework, so as a result , my pension should be low until the end of my life . the opponents of the position are regional. i was very interested in this issue. for example, someone who lives in the same border lives there, so that's why they are against it , it creates this discrimination. thank you. i wanted to explain this issue in the third step. let's get the answer from mr. javani. mr. javani has raised two objections regarding the determination of the regional minimum .