[000:00:00;00] follow the report of this program and the beginning of the conversation with us on the khabar network. thank you very much for being with us, let us see and hear a report first every night according to the routine of the special news conversation. let's start the discussion and program tonight about the issue. this is a picture of a few lawyers in one of the provinces that circulated online 3 months ago. the case is in the process of being investigated from a collection. the claim made about those numbers is questionable in terms of legal regulations. the case is still under consideration. of course, the story of collisions is limited to

not this year and it happened before. the 13th government has put this issue on its agenda since the beginning of its work . it is a structural reform law, one of the clauses of which

is the payment of salaries to zainaf. after several stages of trial implementation, now all government employees are supposed to be subject to this law . god willing, we will do all this. all the national and provincial institutions are included . what i say is the original zainaf this apart from this, the structural work of the government is our dear employees themselves. according to the law , the payment of the salaries of more than 2 million government employees should be done directly by the treasury as a step to prevent the payment of illegal salaries from repeating, mr. dr. turki.

what is the new form in the system of administrative system or sina system and how to define it. i have to tell you that i am very happy that on this evening, dear, we are serving this news to the sharif nation that one of the most complex systems and processes of the country, which is the first time between the 3 big institutions. the program organization of the ministry of economy, finance and the employment administrative organization is being formed and information exchange is being discussed between these three organizations . this was one of our wishes . in the previous government , steps were taken to organize the payment without the final nerve. in this government, a serious decision was made to achieve this goal . this system is based on the budget law of 1402. it obliges the executive to have all their salary payment information

from the platform of the system. after the approval of the program organization through the ministry of affairs the economy of the property should be done to the final level. so this is a legal duty for all government organizations and institutions. how many devices have they used so far and how many are left to record this information? in the first part, i will answer the first question of his highness if i want to. in the first stage, we covered devices that are now from the general treasury. the country of payment used to happen to them, but in the new process that i am presenting to you, a difference has happened. this information is provided to the program and budget organization, based on the amount of resources it has, the cost requested by the device to pay the salary is examined. at

this stage, we have more than 300 user accounts in the program and budget organization. who check the information in the provincial management organization and the program and budget organization, after confirming the information , it is sent to the ministry of finance and economy and the final payment is made. in this process, the most important event is the prior supervision of the program organization on the way of spending and resources, as well as the role of the administration organization in the review of the information of the orders and contracts of the employees, you will also give me the number of the organizations i mentioned in the introduction of 495 national organizations. this needs an explanation. you see, we have 495 national organizations and 734 provincial organizations in the payment results. this stage of involvement from this series, assume that when we introduce a national institution, it may

be this institution that is centralized by the national payment institution. the total of these institutions are 1692 executive institutions, which is approximately 40% of the executive institutions. . at this stage it was covered and 80% of government employees, so this number of 1692 devices is not a violation of 495 government devices, the explanation is that we have a series of national devices and a series of devices that are a subset of this device. we have covered the device, gradually this process will be completed , we are talking about previous monitoring of the organization. the budget program added to this process or maybe strengthened, in which direction will this previous supervision go and of course better management of expenses and resources that are defined in the devices in this system and in this the process yes

, i would like to give a brief introduction to you. look, since 1997 , the supreme leader's constant demand from the governments has been the structural reform of the budget. it has two main wings . this structural reform is a political and policy-making issue. there is one of the infrastructural issues of your budgeting system in the infrastructural issues of budgeting in this program and a similar program alhamdulillah, sada vasima created both the demand and the discourse regarding the treasury unit account, which is one of the most important infrastructures that the country started, and now if what about this infrastructure is explained in various meetings we are making good use of the next stage of these infrastructure discussions in the structural reform of the budget , the final discussion of zainaf, which we are talking about rights tonight, which he mentioned. it is appropriate for me to thank all the dear ones who spent their time in this shaban rooz project in the last few months and now we are here as speakers . i really want to present this project to you only with its legal obligations since the year 1400 in

the budget law. it came and in the law of structural reform of the budget that we are obliged to pay all payments from our sources to the final zinaf, well, unfortunately, by accident. it didn't happen. in the same year, note 9 of the budget law was also written in note a. 20 again, this task was repeated in note 19 and note 20 of 1401. this year in 402 again, in note 19 , we have the entire comprehensive system of financial management of the government, and in note 20 , we only have rights, which, alhamdulillah, when new friends came and in the organization of the program coordinated with the organization of the employment agency and the ministry of economy. this project was one of our priority structural reform projects and we started in august. we went to the initial test of the system to see how well the system works. on the 3rd of october , we piloted the main device to be our own, as a trial by the organization , for the employment agency and

the ministry of economy, so that the devices don't think that, for example, we want an additional task. all institutions were included, except for those that were exceptions and allowed by law, such as military security institutions, etc., for example, a part of the ministry of foreign affairs and a part of, for example, the government. it is food and now their materials do not enter this system at all or they enter in the next stages and in the next stages they have their own special mechanism due to their own different and special conditions. so, what will this supervision change ? look at how it was in the previous situation, every device has a row, the main part of which is the current expenses, and then in the current expenses, the salary is in his hands. there is a device. it was like this that we used to allocate a number to that device every month. this number went to the treasury. we used to allocate and the device would declare a certain amount based on its own request some of these cases that

were mentioned in your report are specific and relevant now and cases that were like this, there existed and after payment, which happened, then we paid and checked, for example, if we checked or used from this dear volume. there is a lot of information about what he paid , for example, an organization had an increase in salary, for example, illegal, or a transfer, from the cost, for example, a slave spent on salaries, and things from or at all on this side, in the opinion of the employee , it will happen many times, god willing, the cost that we paid for the rights or benefits or welfare of the guardian it has not reached the final zinef, who was an employee and our hard-working class, this has become a priori, that is, before this money reaches the machine, we will check that, sir, this machine of yours is so much for salaries, and this is what mr. turkish who said that there is prior supervision , it means that it comes directly. now that we are talking about the employees, yes, yes , look, we have been paying from the treasury since 2007

, but based on the request of the organization itself, that is, the organization says to give this much to mrs. emami's boss. give so much to mr. chenarani, give so much to this was the sentence so much or not , was it too much, too little, was it the total money and salary, and we had exceptional cases , despite the existence of many monitoring devices, and now that he is healthy, alhamdulillah, we wanted to do this both at the same time and at the same time, so this supervision has come, if he wants it. to complete the umbrella, the employment administration must have rules and regulations. after that, the payment will be made instantly and we intend to make this umbrella more complete based on this topic . in the future , i will explain to you, mr. dr. turki, that now, while these payments are for the benefit of the final benefit. it is directly in the door the fact is that it is the employee's hand. now that we are talking about the employees and the payments , you mentioned somewhere that we took this number of executive bodies and included them in this plan in the first step, and

the remaining legal duties are expected to be added , considering that pointing out that the legal obligation has not been implemented since 1400, it was not implemented in 1401 and now it has reached the implementation stage in 1402. just as mr. chenarani proposed the process of completing this system, it was a gradual process, which means that this discussion started in the middle of 1401. the design of our system in the organization of the recruitment department is one platform we have a fabric called the one-cloth platform of the administrative system, which we call sina. you must be familiar with our pakna system, which is our employees' database, the system for registering benefits under article 29 of the sixth plan law, and a series of sub-systems that are part of the one-cloth platform of the administrative system. there are one of the challenges that executive bodies faced , the process of entering information multiple times was one of the most important. from our point of view, the most important functions of this system

, as a mission given to the recruitment administrative organization in designing the path towards the realization of the intelligent government, is to modify the processes. one of those corrections the basic processes are the process of entering multiple information in different systems. the accountants of our executive body sometimes have to fill in the information of the national system. this takes them away from their main work, which is about supervision. it is expensive, so one of the efforts we made in this fragmentation was to enable executive bodies to store information in a centralized platform and create the possibility of monitoring. did you take the time to do this? you see , in the first place, since it was a change in the process of uploading information, a gradual period must be passed did mr. dr. shanarani brought up. we started almost this summer. we have only three devices under test route in one period. we took and gradually expanded this path in the month of december

, the executive bodies and employees did not notice this change at all, the beneficiaries of this issue and those who were involved in this process were the executive bodies even in this period with very good coordination that we the organization we had a program and the ministry of economy, the country's salaries started on the 26th, the payment process started on the 20th. it had been done and the employees did not notice this change of rail. this path is gradual to complete the covered domain. god willing, with a joint design that we are doing, in the next stage , god willing, other institutions, in the next stage, state companies, and in the next stage, god willing, other institutions subject to article 29 will gradually be covered by this system until the middle of next year, god willing . can you tell us the time and steps of the speech.

of course, we got the final date from you , and it will be almost completed by the middle of next year. challenges in the path of its rulemaking. let's assume that we probably need a series of process changes in relation to the discussion of paying the final severance pay of state-owned companies . these are time-consuming. please allow these considerations to be studied, god willing , but i will share this point with you. i do. the hope that we, the program organization and the ministry of economy, have on the quick completion of this process , taking into account the considerations and the attention that there will not be a challenge to pay the salaries of the government employees, mr. tanar , these challenges that have existed before and continue to face in this direction and in this railing is taken care of what are the government employees? now , a question arises for them. all government employees, for example

, contract civil servants, retirees , will be subject to this issue. mentioning the issue of government companies , what will be the duty of government companies in this railroading? yes, look, our lady. we have to make an agreement first, when we are going to structural reforms of this kind, these structural reforms in the world are of a long-term nature, that is , it is one of the most complex economic structural reforms in the country , especially the sub-genre, that is, you, we want your help . our first agreement and commitment is that a safe margin for the original zinfan who are people and now employees . let's just mention what mr. turki said first, if all the wires were supposed to be paid at the last minute of the night, we can bring this as far as we can so that people understand that if we want to make an infrastructural change , it is probably better. it will be forever. it used to be like this that

all the salary packages had to be closed at the same time , all together, for example, our 2 million employees, then it all went to one place, for example, with thirty in any form. he started paying one by one in the treasury now there is no need for you, for example , to assume that seda and simo will be eligible and enter their salaries on time. there will be resources for the fifth. we will start or we will , dear retirees. we can bring it forward and give it earlier days. after all, yes, we are trying . now i will explain that these infrastructures help . for example, when we talk, many people think that it is a system. in fact , there was a good consensus between the main team of p, the main device and the other device. we focus on improving the process, what will be the exit look at this process reform, we have frequent system controls in the process, because this process should be transparent and documented and

the payment should be fair. it is said, for example, for the average payments , what is the reason for this? the reason is that a system based on statements, for example, i go and say that my salary is low , so let's go, so let's add for this device, the rest will remain, and after this, this sub-base will be read, god willing. help this person happen how are the others added to state companies ? look at our corporate budget and the budget of our current institutions. in fact, the budget of the public sector and our public budget are different from each other. therefore , these two processes can be seen in the country, whether in terms of legal, political, etc. we said that we should start first in the institutions that the government has more control over and that there is a greater possibility of reforming the process, and god willing, we will finish it next year, because you know that this year, in this field of law, we have three institutions at the same time, starting from september in the field of medicine in rome. instead of paying to the insurance, we had to pay directly to the pharmacy we have paid, now, god willing, we can increase it and even pay the people themselves. in

the next stages, these are the works that we went from the insurance to the pharmacy . regarding pensions , there is a challenge there. pensions have 3 sources, the whole source is in salaries, the government provides the pensions, which are deducted from the employees , it is brought by the fund itself, and the help that the government is giving now, unfortunately, in our country. due to the conditions of the funds, a huge part of this burden has fallen on the shoulders of emmy's budget, because these three are complicated however, i am retired, god willing , it is important for us, who were in the design of this project, in the program. the most important and most sensitive part was this part, which , alhamdulillah , happened in january with much more success than i expected. alhamdulillah, the rest can be added every month. it was that this would finally happen, and now mr. turki and our dear colleagues in

these three devices probably confirm that the most important stress and pressure was that month until now, when it has decreased, then we will add more every month. we do. since then, we want the policy tool for this infrastructure that we put in place to implement our budget, where will it go after that? after that, we have our construction projects like medicine, which is one of the sources that is now referred to in that account of your treasury unit. we have deposited a lot of money in the accounts of the devices. there is an area in the life budget and other matters that , god willing, i will explain to you in the future if i have the opportunity . previously, the information of employees was recorded what are the differences between the system in which information is registered now in the form of implementation, in the form of operation

, in the form of payment for the benefit of the final benefit. the design of the system, along with the goal of financial discipline , should start a process of designing the government family. in the definition of the government family , we have multiple definitions. somewhere, we go to the government employees , that is, employees with different roles who are working in executive bodies. contract, work contract, labor inspection, but there is a time when we talk about the family of the government , the family of the government are people whom the government

some of them. until now, the data that was loaded into the systems of the employment administrative organization was based on the revelation of the executive body. this executive body would come and declare the information that this is my employee, i have this number of employees, and upload it to our salary system. i paid this amount to this work, and the mechanism was only for rear monitoring. in this system and this design, exactly the information of the people who are going to be paid from public sources , as well as the number of digits that are going to be paid to them, are loaded into the platform of this system. in the first stage, we do not face any challenges in the payment process of the devices. it is possible that the executive body is making a payment to someone. whose information does not exist in our databases

, the device has not uploaded. at this stage , we show our information from the systems we have, when the device wants to upload the information, we call it the executive device based on the information registered on our side. these are the people to whom you can pay salaries, and we will tell the device at this stage that you can pay anyone you want. pay him the salary, he is the burden. ken because our first goal was a process improvement rail. gradually, the executive body sees what information is available on our side and what information it has , and payments are made to it. gradually, by removing this data entry portal, only the executive bodies can make payments to people whose information is registered in the database of employees of our pakana administrative system. and the controls that happen according to this. based on the information of manpower registered on our side. municipality and major non-

governmental public institutions subject to information entry in system systems they are administrative. but at this stage that i am presenting to you , they are not included in this system for direct payment to the final beneficiaries. of course, the process of uploading betting information has improved after the report we gave you. the subject of this program. no, but i will use this platform again to make the best use of the device. i request that the devices that are receiving from the treasury should be careful about filling in their information. we discussed this issue almost 4 months ago. we announced the device because this process is ahead we had seen that this device is likely to have information, it is likely that their information will be completed, because it is not a legal duty that is being requested now, and in fact, they are saying to do it. the most important thing is that in relation to

our municipalities, our monitoring issues and inspection reports. we announced that i don't want to use this tribune on the night of eid, in short, i don't want to use an expression that should be negative to the employees, because now the whole result of what we are talking about is, pay attention, no , pay attention, sir, pay attention, i am in the company of these two. detach see domain municipalities are not among the devices that are covered by us at this stage, so the other devices whose salaries were paid to zainef from the treasury right now, with this new mechanism, they should enter the information of the municipalities in 1400. it was not done in 1401. it was not implemented in 1402, so why are we doing this law step by step ? please pay attention, mr. dr. chenarani

, to make a precise point. see the complexities of this structural reform . in order for this gradual process to happen , we used devices to start we started with devices in this stage that are currently in the process of paying to zainaf, and for us their rules, regulations and structural reform are more transparent. pay attention, madam, many of these structural reforms, as mr. chenarani mentioned, are both deep and long, probably. need. there is a series of process reform until this process reform does not take place, the realization of the place of ambiguity, maybe until now that we are talking to each other, before this process between these three organizations is followed seriously, there is no seriousness in the realization of this matter. but now there is a serious effort to if this issue is realized, i will complete

my previous proposal regarding municipalities across the country at one stage and all the devices that enter. at one stage , based on the legal duty of the report to the regulatory bodies, we announced that the filing of opinion files has started, and we will submit the second stage report at the end of the year, god willing. let's have a question that is very important now in this discussion , there is the money of construction project contractors and then government transactions . a part of your question i forgot to answer, did you say that it only pertains to official employees or not? yes, at this stage, the same stage that was implemented in january, all the people who have government employment status, both officially and contractually, based on the same system, the new final zaind will be paid to the unemployed as well. the ones you mentioned, not the retirees, we

didn't bring them now because their salaries are covered by three parts, but we paid them all at once and earlier. to benefit from the benefits of this system , which will be allocated to the treasury sooner , but the retirement fund itself is currently paying and we are not paying at this stage. only with official employees, you made a contract. in your previous step, the issue of retirees was discussed, and its completion in line with the same issue in the future of public companies. tell me very shortly. i think that we should start from the beginning of the year. the reason is, yes, their structure. it is different and i would like to say that because this team is finally limited and i am at your service, this task is very complicated to bring 120 devices into the new process , that is, if you can, these are our dear friends who work harder than me and behind this system. at the moment, they are row by row, i mean only details i check the challenge of vadasho in the group and i see

that there is a lot of pressure, especially in the corporate and civil affairs , it should not be from the salaried people, exactly one of the places where we can organize the field of our corporate salaried people. a company will be paid, they will explain the salary and a part, god willing, we had a meeting today, i hope that if the device cooperates with us and a bit of this falls on the rails , this work and we will remember the previous state of this stability system. he found the first thing that is available, which is not a difficult task, god willing there are companies, whether in contracting projects, etc., or in executive bodies, right now we have a company in the field of power equipment, that's the name of which i finally said, the commitment we gave, the first ones to see the benefits of this plan, dear people and hardworking employees, are definitely our priority. yes, mr. chenarani , thank you very much for your explanation, mr. turki

. i am very grateful for the presence of both of you in the special news interview studio . i say goodbye to both of you. the name of god, mrs. and mr. hello, my name is adiraza hashemzadegan with the world, i am with you today . in the first case of tonight's program , we will meet mr. dr. ibrahim motaghi to review the latest developments in the region, especially after the increase in the level of tension .