the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament is the key, it is in the hands of the people. the iranian coach sharaf iran is playing a telegram with the whole country. why is this month pricing? your question is an interesting question . we do not want footballers on the board of directors . we do not agree with any kind of treatment. you are watching a higher election . in recent meetings, the leader of the revolution called the real competition one of the important elements of the election in his explanation , meaning that the field

should be open for the presence of all different and diverse views in the economic, cultural and social fields so that everyone these views can have an active and real competition in the big election contest and form it. today's topic is the discussion of article 41 of the labor law. we want to talk to the supporters and opponents to see that basically there is this point of view that they say in their agreement that the minimum wage and salary of the workers should be proportional to the area where they live and work. they say that it should be decided, in my opposition, they say that this should not happen . be with the special program of the higher election program. well, here in the special studio of the higher program, mr. javani, a member of hit, the director of iran's supreme employer center and a member of the supreme labor council, is present. i also have mr. tajik, a member of the workers' representative wage committee in the supreme labor council . mr. javani, let me start with this question

: mr. javani , you are in favor of setting salaries regionally, why in the name of god? it should be determined , i mentioned in my note that, looking at inflation, it should provide the minimum livelihood of a household. in any case, in the last 30 years, the last 3 years, this debate has not been taken into account, this year even from the last two years. this work was on hand in the meeting, it caused various researches to be carried out. finally, in the recent meeting that we were working on, shaal decided that this should be investigated in the banana committee and the specialized committee , and the researches that had been conducted should be reviewed, and the result would finally be in shawali. we are waiting for my second meeting which is tomorrow. on monday, these

specialized and challenging discussions will be examined, god willing , they will be discussed in the summary meeting and the next meeting. since you are participating in the program as a consent , please tell me the reason for your consent . see, there are different reasons. in fact, the same wage or reasonable wage has effects and trends that i would like to say in detail are the challenges that have been implemented in different countries. it has positive and negative points. at the moment , i don't want to talk too much about whether we are in favor or against, because the research points and works that have been examined are supposed to be examined by an expert . there are 41 laws, but it does not mean that the wage in the region is the same as there are opponents, like mr. taji, who does not mean that the wage is less than the minimum wage, that is sometimes

, the labor law does not differ from article 1 to 233, which is actually a one-man workshop, a 10-man workshop , a thousand-man workshop, and one law for everyone . this causes that sometimes a decision that is made there and includes everyone turns an employer into a worker overnight, because the consequences are the consequences that actually happened in that workshop, underground workshop, workshops that are actually from the labor law. sometimes they don't comply, which means they can't insure the worker . in fact, the union workshop has negative consequences, the effects of which should be checked to see if it is the regional wage or the manat wage. different industries have a positive or negative effect on different scales. thank you.

we didn't get the main question from you , at least let's see, mr. tajik, why are you against determining the position on a regional basis? please, in the name of god , i offer greetings and politeness to the dear viewers of the higher program and to your highness, mr. bozarnaseb, the editor and presenter , so what is your question for me? i think this is happening since 33 years, mr. javani, the question arises for me here, why at all , what are the reasons for raising this issue in the last two or three years, do we want to enforce the law on those who have they are following up and they want to help the society under the labor law by creating expert meetings . what is their goal? in my opinion, the speech chapter of the law in note d of article 41 clearly

states that the minimum wage should be such that cover the living expenses of the workers. certainly, from the point of view of the labor community and the labor organizations , we cannot take a part of the law, interpret it into a vote and insist that it be based on different industries and regions. a very simple person with a very basic education can read article 41. he does it as required by law. pay no need to we don't have lawyers, there is no need for anyone to interpret article 41. with a simple look, the legislator's emphasis in note d of article 41 is clear. in my opinion, if we want to solve the problem

, i can say as a teacher that we have to simplify the problem. please make it easy for the whole society to understand. mr. javani, we cannot discuss wages and explanations for the general public with expert discussions at higher levels in the wage committee or meetings of the supreme labor council. we paid in 1402 , i think that all the people of iran have witnessed and experienced the number of 7300 thousand tomans. to the work of a worker for one month is 8 hours a day, 44 hours a week. after paying the insurance premium , if we round it, we will reach the number of 600, mr.

javani. well, dividing by 30, it will be 226 thousand tomans . according to the labor law, the number considered for a family. 3 individual shares means that if we divide the number of 226 thousand tomans into 3 shares , it will be 68 thousand tomans. i think that it is not better than this to explain the hand set for the year 1402. i will complete it, please. in my opinion, a person , a worker, must be a genius, young man with 68,000 tomans a day , he can cover the cost of food and non-food items

, housing, clothing, and education for himself and his family . i told the viewers that we are not against the law . i am a tajik, as a representative of workers or labor organizations in the supreme labor council, no one is against the correct implementation of article 41, but i cannot forgive this. what interests are behind this word.

a family doesn't have three escapes, that's all we understand that we also live in this society , but there is a debate in the çelik article of the labor law, which says that at least bananas for different places and different industries that a family needs during the month are actually covered by the salaries they receive. clothing and shoes, discussion of housing, water, electricity, gas, article 149 of the labor law and the governing duty of the constitution. there is an intention that suitable land is suitable for housing. i understand that in article 149, you said to help the cooperative with its housing issue, but

the main task is actually for the government and the government, that cheap land is provided to the worker, and health care is provided by article 147 of the law. our work and constitution now pay 30% of the worker and employer for the insurance premium . he collects money, he doesn't give the cafes a breather even for a month, it becomes a mush, 31 days without any charges , he is entitled to this obligation, which is in article 147 of the labor law and the constitution, that is, when 30% insurance is paid, neither the worker nor the employer has anything to do with supplementary insurance. or the strange payment should not be there. this is what is happening. the issue of transportation in the constitution is the responsibility of the government, which must be transported. public and cheap price to ensure that the workers of the society, including the kafa worker, can use it , or the regional wage, why is it about the livelihood that you mentioned, in the end, we are talking about that livelihood, we will come to the discussion of government communication, the discussion

of the price, we are talking about the rights the salary base of the minimum salary of a worker in a big city in a capital city or for example in a remote village, this should be the same or not . no, i said it first petitions i said that the regional benefit does not mean that the worker's payment is less than the minimum benefit, but regional or different industries means that when we have a small-scale workshop , the income is less. the wage of 27 or 57 was increased last year. we do not have labor force. many of the industries and services are facing the problem of labor shortage many times. we now have a company that has increased its salary in tel 3 times so far, not only 27, maybe 57, 60 %. in fact, the

labor society or kafa is not that the wages are low sometimes these costs that i explained are imposed on the employer and the worker, and the worker has to pay for rent, housing , treatment, education, and transportation in different areas. we have a stronger industrial debate in the provinces that are blessed, naturally , high industry. and they have more payments in the provinces where the industry is actually weaker, for example, ilam province as an example, in fact the industry is weaker there , the issue of services is stronger there, naturally, the use of manpower is higher when the salaries and benefits the workshops that are located there are exposed to damage , it is possible that they will be closed, it is possible that they will lay off the workforce , if this is discussed in different areas, this is the case, but this does not mean that, in fact, we are paid less than. at least the labor law will be more. for example, the issue of housing, one of the debates that was raised in the research

was that the cost of buying or renting housing in tehran or alborz province is different from a weaker province. i think that paying 900 thousand tomans or 500 thousand tomans is too much it has no effect. in fact, mr. tajik said that his region means that explaining your opinion is exactly the difference. labor organizations and social partners of the government and employers in the word "requirement " should be seen in the note of mr. jovani, nowhere in the law does it require that according to inflation, it is higher than inflation or lower according to inflation . let's talk about this regional wage in different regions, then let's go

. this is my argument. i say that first the livelihood should be complete , then let's go to the regions of the country where it is possible to live with 7 and 300, we say. the experience of my friend and other friends in the supreme labor council for several years is precisely to the point that the implementation of one

part of the law means that the other part of the law is blocked. i say that for 33 years, we have been looking for the livelihood to be provided for the cost of living , the banana should be based on the livelihood, it is true mr. young minded man, tell me how much the cost of living for a family of three shares is , i can't use a number because it is gone, i accept and we understand that with these numbers, with these figures , the issue that mr. javani said about the work of a small workshop and the work of a large workshop, which practically

has nothing to do with the regional position and the industry, is a different scale industry. open industry. it is separate, maybe in one document there is a small workshop and a big workshop . you did not separate this. my point is that we must first come to terms with that minimum, mr. bigoran . giving the minimum means that we sat in an expert meeting and said , sir, the minimum wage for the lowest level of the country. ariale means determining the cost of living in the meeting of the wage committee. let's come later. now let's consider the country to be regionalized in 2 defaults from the social partners. now, the research center of the parliament and the ministry of economy have brought up in the expert meetings, one of which is the regional wage in general. let there be 6 regions someone from the research center suggested that only housing rights should be variable, right, mr. javani, that will be the next step

. the number is unknown because, sorry, unofficial jobs do not have statistics, official jobs do have statistics , we have a few million workers who work in small workshops on the ground or now in a regional area and have no insurance, informal workers

, freelancers, or freelancers these are people who are themselves. they work for themselves and are not insured, they do not use any benefits. workers working in underground workshops to in any case, we don't want to go far away. these productions, which are actually located in tehran, you should visit them. they are work-oriented, maybe they pay more than the minimum, but they don't have insurance. in fact, they don't have job stability. this work is the result of not paying attention to article 41 and the comment that came saying that it is time for different regions and industries. we can now, i agree again, really saying many times that we agree that we should determine the minimums on a national basis so that we do not have any defects in the discussion of our labor law. regarding the fact that he should not pay all the minimums, i will go back to the explanations i gave in the articles of the labor law and the constitution

. he has to buy meat from his chicken, rice from a part of his basket, come to talk about treatment or transport or internet or education , we can't ignore these things, let's say, because in fact, at least mashhad is not provided, so let's get a national banana. let's decide and get rid of ourselves, it's easy the most important thing that has been done in the last 30 years, we can not involve ourselves in any discussion, let's say at least the national fashion. peace be upon you, mr. tajik . i did not get the answer to my question, but the answer to my question, mr. javani, has been answered . no, all the groups you mentioned are a subset of official jobs. the statistics in 1401 show that the expertise of the social security organization testifies to the issue and

it is accessible to all people. when the salary of 57 was added, the number of insured persons was much higher than in other years. we have the disadvantage that we cannot increase the salary due to the fact that the government itself is the biggest employer, we are practically alone in the supreme labor council, your excellency, the workers are alone, the employers and the government are part of the same group, because the government itself is the biggest employer, so surely we do not get that right in the meetings of the supreme labor council or the wage committee. i have said many times that i have no objection to the correct implementation of the law, but i cannot use just one word. i say , why

don't we pay the living expenses of the workers as handouts? there is no subordinate, problems arise. is that right, young man? this is what you are talking about. that's why you as a person of society the employer, the representative of the employer does not sit in the supreme labor council, because two people agree, there is no other solution. why don't you accept that according to the two wages , you are making a living according to the two wages ? it is not true that a family needs health care , housing rent, food, clothing, transportation , public electricity, communication, entertainment, education. now he goes to a restaurant once a month and buys various goods and services how effective can these events be, for example, in fact , by paying up to the minimum wage

, how effective can governance and the government be , if you assume that transportation is cheap , it will not actually go towards buying a personal car or with the frugality that it is. health care no longer pays for additional insurance or additional fees . when it comes to housing, it pays more rent. the government and karfama, naturally , i want to give an explanation, we are not opposites at all, we are not at all against, we agree a working society and a professional society have no meaning at all without each other. now, i will bring the best technology in the workshop when there are no workers. it is of no use for me to invest billions of tomans in the most up-to-date. in fact, my picture is that a skilled worker is trained. when there is no workshop, there is practically no meaning in training. that is, we have to stand together , naturally, no employer. it is possible for a good worker to be an expert worker. in fact , in the discussion of labor law reform, we said that our problem now is that the issue of a temporary contract or a permanent contract is not at all a force for us to come.

let's say we formalize it or make it a contract . indeed, industrial partners, small workshops and large workshops , are faced with the position of attracting labor. anyway , the summary is that the talks can definitely help the government , the help of the government can help itself, finally , it will help the main issue. why do you think that the determination of the minimum wage in the form of the labor law is the same for everyone, that is , it has been 3 years now, at least since the labor law of 1969. he is a different worker, we are talking about his different areas different regions or different sanaye we have pairs together, we can see that today's topic is the program of different regions .

one of the provinces came and said that compared to last year , we had a 30% increase in the number of insured persons, which means that banana 27 has caused an increase of 30% of the number of insured persons. no, this cannot be generalized. there are various reasons. yes, maybe these are people who do not work continuously , they are only insured. i want to say that the reason we are looking for or supporting this is that in fact it must be we should move in this direction that if it doesn't happen this year, in the following years, if it is for different industries , we should be able to provide a comprehensive coverage. in the past, which was in 1957, finally , the employers who actually had one, two, or three people were forced to because the cost of the service was higher than sanayt. is it possible to reduce the workforce or have fewer hours or to lay off the workforce at all? mr. tajik , do you think there are disadvantages in determining the minimum wage by region? i repeat again. if

we simplify the problem, understanding for the viewers.