remember, the writers of the constitution , those who gave the powers to the guardian council , never wanted us to reach a situation where probably 40-30% of the people would not participate in the elections . the conditions should be checked so that more people can participate. this is my third reason. the characteristic of these conditions mentioned in article 31, the five conditions that i said later, we should not leave it to the shura to verify , the characteristic of this is that the conditions are vague , there is no index, the herd is open, anyone can interpret it however they want, let's see the conditions again, hazrat. excellent, tell me , do you see or not see conditions in me or dr. khamseh. practical adherence

to islam, what should i do, practical commitment to islam, solid belief in islam, what should i do , what documents should i give to the guardian council to be proven ? in the last one year , i have been praying to the guardian council as to how i can prove this. how does the guardian council verify this ? the guardian council itself says that i should

take it from the next time. forgive me when the indicators are so wide-ranging, distorting the expression of loyalty to the constitution. he did not say to the constitution, to the islamic system of the revolution , well, he is loyal to the constitution , very well, how should i prove that another guest has joined us , mr. dr. mustafa mansourian, a member of the academic staff of the university of judicial sciences. hello , i am at your service, mr. mansourian. what do you think about the speech of mr. dr. saberi, in the name of allah , the merciful, the merciful, i also offer my greetings and courtesy to the honorable guests, mr. dr. saberi tolai and mr. khamsa. now , the problem we are facing is that the normal legislation that has happened in this field is that the existence of certain conditions for the presentation of the will of the guardian council as one of the institutions involved in this issue, that is, the ministry of interior as the executive that must be appointed and that the candidate who enters , in fact, wants to be exposed to the people's vote

, has that authority. and the guardian council, which supervises this special task, the executive, both of them should actually be able to control these cases , so we either have to move in a direction in our own legislation where the standards are reduced, measurable, made more transparent, or we have to if we change the proof in this context, it means that the subject will be reversed. to actually obviously, what the islamic council of parliament should be able to establish. thank you, dear mr. mansurin. well, let's go back to mr. khamse , mr. doctor . what is your opinion? until we know the answer to your question, in my opinion , it is not possible. i said that there is any condition that rationally exists in the systems all over the world, in iran and in

the lives of all intellectuals in the world, there is a condition that requires you to go to ahrade. go buy fruit , buy good big fruit, you go blindfolded and choose the original fruit it's big, no, you look again and see the big fruit of hester khamsa. mr. saberi doesn't deny the essence of the matter, but only the appearance and features because of their orders. yes, now that is the next part of my story. conditions must be met. let's separate the part from the conditions, because the difference is in this part of my speech, mr. doctor, where they say that some of the conditions must be met, and some of the conditions must not be met. this is what i mean: yes, what i mean is that any condition should be everywhere in the world. it should be verified, the nature of betting, mr. dr. saberi says that it is not possible to verify well, see, mr. doctor, when they single out this principle . if someone's wife says go buy an orange, an

orange.

qualitative and quantitative conditions are much easier to meet with a specific ruler. i accept this. for example , we open the age characteristic of a person's birth certificate. we see whether he has reached the required legal age or not . let's say, for example, when we open his birth certificate to say that he is a citizen, the citizenship is written in a document. it is not so easy to get a degree in education, for example, and we put a valid authority, for example, the ministry of science or the ministry of health. is it valid or not, but there are some conditions , their quality conditions, that is, they do not have the ability to meter zero and one . yes, but these quality conditions are discussed in whether these

quality conditions can be accepted or not . you can see the principle of saying that in relation to elections the presidency was discussed. yes, that was an example . the principle of 99 is all four. in your presence, he said the type of election, he said that the supervision is all with the guardian council, one example is the clarification that it is necessary to confirm the conditions, and he clarified that he clarified all the cases , but, well, the supervision in those four elections is no different like all the others, but in another place, article 62 the constitution has stated a point in article 62 of the constitution. now, there is a clause at the beginning that we will skip . the following clause states that the conditions of voters and elected officials and the quality of elections are determined by the law . the constitution itself has stated it because of the different status of the presidential election , but it has not stated it here, but it has said the principle that there must be conditions , it must have conditions. now who determines the law, the law approved by the parliament, see the requirements

of the islamic system, it requires that we cannot simply because of our conditions. let's put the conditions on citizenship, i welcome your presence, age, qualifications like these, characteristics, yes, why the introduction of the same constitution says. he says that the principle should be based on the selection of the righteous and the government of the righteous. well, let's say this is the righteous, so let's put it aside. yes, there is quality. qualitative characteristics are definitely different from quantitative characteristics. this difference does not mean that we do not want verification. i am an example. my wife, mr. doctor, in the universities, morning till night , they are doing what they say cannot be done , and they are doing it. i don't know why they are not asked there, in fact, they are candidates for membership in the board. they refer to the universities there and say that you should verify the scientific qualification of this person. qualification science can be measured, like age, like citizenship at all and forever. what is the real thing? how many professors sit, each professor asks what he knows about his specialty, he expects

that person to have all these specialties that all professors have together. isn't scientific qualification a qualitative thing? it is definitely a quality thing. metromola is not clear. after that, even those things that metro has a specific criterion are now evaluated by the dignitaries with their own quality characteristics . three points for an article that has been officially published in the authorized publication of the ministry of science , they say that we have to check whether or not to give it two points. quality conditions yes, it requires actions , for example, what do i accept to verify the scientific qualification in the replacement of the faculty, you can not put quality conditions here, tell everyone who comes, in the name of god, go teach, no, we want to be sure that this person has the necessary scientific qualification or not. it does not

mean that these quality conditions must be met we cannot leave non-quality conditions, but at least we have to keep quality conditions in mind. the special requirements of this position, when we ask how friends meet the special requirements , they try to take into account, for example , we invite you to a meeting. first of all, bring a series of documents and documents , for example, the article of this scientific book, if you have this one, in fact, they will invite a few professors, how many questions will they ask the person , can they pass this with just one question? do they do it anymore, is it 100 % error-free? no, are we all in that situation? we trust the members of the faculty, for example, their personal ways, for example, if they don't like my appearance , if they don't like my political beliefs. it doesn't interfere, no, but we are doing the same thing everywhere in the university. having special requirements

does not mean that it is necessary to abandon that condition. it should definitely be verified in the parliamentary elections. i would like to say that it does not matter to us that you are present after the revolution in the imposed war until now, when for example islam, the revolution, the constitution, etc. are stable.

the member of the faculty says that his claim is that he has the scientific qualifications, we have to go and prove that you don't have them, they say no, you prove it, we ask questions, you defend yourself, argue, answer, and see if you have the necessary scientific qualifications or not? when we adhere to islam, it must be fulfilled, in principle , the fulfillment of any condition, be it qualitative or quantitative, in the preliminaries that i mentioned, it is useful here , there is no doubt that it must be fulfilled . let's go a little further with that example, maybe it's not bad, they say my wife said go buy oranges, some features he said: it should be big, it should be juicy, for example, it should be orange , this

can be achieved, he said, i like this quality , yes, it is not possible, for example, let's ask, what does it mean, what are its dimensions? in order to be a little bit closer to the mind, he can like blood orange , he knows orange, for example , he likes the presence of the north , which means that there are a few characteristics of this, yes , it definitely has some background. islam has an external condition, for example, praying whether he prays or not, everyone who prays means that he is committed to islam. there is no doubt about it. no, but there is a minimum condition that he can imagine . tell him. by the way , on the contrary, i need another condition . you can tell them. don't put the other words in my mouth. you just said that praying is not enough. you just said that praying is not enough

. i want one more condition. tell me to finish my essays, let me finish my essays yes, i said, in truth, the one who is praying in syria is praying out of hypocrisy . god recognizes this in the inner person. we don't recognize that now there are legal precedents. i don't want a lot of discussion about those legal challenges. you say islam or, for example, farz. repent. where do you verify the reduction of the punishment or, for example, removal ? yes, islam has internal conditions that god can verify. undoubtedly, it is true that there is no mistake in it, but according to the appearance of islam , it does not have any conditions, that is, it is only qualitative, it does not have any criteria, no. we know that the one who does not pray is committed there is no islam , even if a person is

a muslim, it means that he is not committed to islam. if it is an islamic hijab , the islamic hijab complies with some of the prominent features of islam, and we know that it is not a qualitative issue, for example, like the example of the orange, someone said, " i like it." which we know in his mind, it is not like the modification of commitment to the constitution, for example, is really nothing at all. he recognized that someone whose behavior , speech, frankness, or confession indicates that he says that he does not accept this constitution , we can say that he is committed to the constitution, and for example, let's assume

that he has the scientific conditions and 3 people say that he does not. what do we do when there is a dispute? here is another logical picture in all legal systems . the issue that requires quality, for example , right now in the courts from morning to night. day and night in our legal system apart from fasting life, there is no question in the courts, for example, they say whether the party has good intentions or you do not have bad intentions. mr. doctor, bad faith and good faith is another esoteric matter. according to mr. doctor, we have a wide herd in a wider herd . what do they do here? or, for example , they say, let's assume specialized issues , they say, we will refer them to a specialist. we give this to a psychologist, we give a subject to, for example , a doctor, we give a subject to an expert, for example

, a real estate agent. ok or is it necessary, like goodwill, like a thousand and one more examples, we can't say not to verify it, which we have to verify , there are special requirements, yes , what are we doing ? you go to 10 doctors, 6 of them say that the operation should be done, four of them say that the operation should not be done, what do we do when this happens? the second principle of reason is here. do you think that in this situation all the members of the guardian council think the same way? they always discuss it, whether they convince or not convince, if they don't convince, then they get votes. that's right , mr. doctor, let me pass your argument here, let's go to mr. mansourian. in fact

, if we reach a conclusion, we will vote on the majority. not being able to count , leave the judgment to the people's vote, and actually the people will vote whether or not are these people competent or not, that is, by electing them and by participating in the elections and voting , you accept this issue, mr. mansoorian , see, from the point of view of legal logic and rational requirements , it is not acceptable for us to claim that the legislator has foreseen a condition. . now this condition has not been met, then we want to leave this to the people themselves, if what is desired is that the people now choose those people who have the initial qualifications and those people who are now qualified among these people. with their taste and actually with their cares

there is more consanguinity, they should choose him. it is not acceptable for us to say: well, let 's actually put a principle of truth here, let's say, well , now anyone can enter in the cases where we have predicted the conditions. i think we should be careful. let's face it, the main challenge now is that once we talk about the current situation, the current situation of article 31 is clearly included in the election law of the islamic council , and it has provided 10 clauses, just as you mentioned . well, these conditions are mostly objective. the part is also qualitative, so objectively there is no challenge, for example, the age of citizenship in fact, the implementation history of cases like this can be verified easily, the main problem comes to the head, in fact , these cases have a qualitative aspect, and now we need to talk about how these can be verified, but

there is no doubt about the fact that these should be verified. because these are conditions that mr. mansourian and mr. saberi are putting forward that you cannot do. let's reserve it, that's why we have to confirm the principle. you say that it can be reserved. these conditions are a bit relative here. in fact , we will say at some point that in this credit that we did, in this legislative method that we had. is this beneficial for us or not? well, if this is the question, i would say that we can find a more favorable situation, that is, we should go in the direction of the legislation. let's face fewer challenges. how can these challenges be less? for the reason that we can create more transparency for the mind of our audience, the mind of the citizen. for example, if committing these actions and reactions causes them to be non-committal, mr.

mansourian , please excuse me if i formulate your argument. and to in the current situation, if we want to talk, it was a little side, what the ministry did. and the guardian council is doing the right thing, they have to verify the existence, that is, it is a condition that is included in the law, the law requires these things, now these things may not be detected in a person or they may be impeached, that can be non-confirmation of competence, this can also be the lack of many, many thank you, mr. mansourian. well , i think we have 4 minutes until the end of the program. we will give two minutes to mr. dr. sabri and two minutes to mr. as a rule, when it is one to two , they have to

do something. at one time, the standard was not correct in universities. there was no index, they say, for example, so-and-so is a revolutionary kid , it is good to get him, for a period they say so-and-so, for example , a reformist kid, it is good to get him. i did not give a scientific opinion anywhere , but if there are some cases, there is a specific form. setting 70% of definable indicators, how many articles do you have, where is your article published, we give points , do you have a book, all of these indicators are not quality indicators, mr.

doctor, if it is a quality indicator, less than 30% is allowed, less than 30% is not allowed. you have more information. i went to a university from a prominent university. in the interview session, several people came to me and said that we know about it. i agree with this. someone has clearly said that i don't agree with the constitution . for example, give me time

. for example, you can disqualify me. i say why don't you want to participate, he says because i don't have a voice in this parliament , i say why don't you have a voice, he says you have time from here on, yes, let me use the time

that the claim is not proven, you say that the party wants to vote, he says that i do not have a voice in your presence , the reason for the non-participation of the guardian council will be determined by opinion and scientific work, mr. doctor, neither my claim nor

your claim. the polls say that people's participation is based on the people's own words, which means going to the people and asking them why you did not participate. how many people said that it was not my voice . the participation was below one or ten percent . well, this claim is being repeated. see numerous surveys in previous periods. i am holding this participation course. please give us a deadline . we will thank them, mr. doctor. they say that the law actually said non-confirmation either the lack of approval means that you have to be both of them. father, the doctor has this meaning everywhere, no, or what he says means that this will happen, or if he had said that there was no approval and no approval, it means that both of them should have been approved. it means that we can no longer deny the obvious from the law. after your guardian council , your claim is that it should act against the law. mr. dr. mansouri said this part correctly. it is not written that this law

was written by the parliament. thank you very much for this discussion that took place in the program i hope that you, dear viewers , have also benefited from this discussion. thank you for staying with us until the end. inshallah, until we meet again , i leave you all to the great god

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