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anyone who entered the house should say, let's go , for example, get married, for example, my daughter, i checked the conditions, no , she should check, her daughter should ask her , in fact, there is no checking of qualifications, the issue is that if the guardian council is not sure that this election candidate does it have these characteristics or not, should you rule on disqualification, or is this all the preliminaries of that discussion? i will give the last answer now, because you are apparently only looking for the last answer. later , i will return to the preliminaries. see the word disqualification several times in the same election law. the islamic council is explicitly stated as the guardian council he can act against the law, right, this is an issue where the lack of qualification is explicitly stated in the law, this is your final answer, if you are comfortable , then let us go back to mr. saberi , mr. saberi, what do you think , does this lack of qualification have a legal basis? no , because i want to talk about the subject. i would like to say that the monitoring
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of intelligence and intelligence is a separate story, but i would like to add this footnote that mr. doctor says that the constitution is clear about this role of the guardian council . the answer is that there is a reason, if it has such an implication , it would be a pain to monitor the presidency and there are many differences between the parliamentary and presidential elections , there is not a single block that we can say, because the constitution has given them such a role, this must happen in the next elections. in the next election, in the next election , he gave this role, but let's get to the main topic, i have four reasons for this opinion that i expressed about the promise, in detail about the disqualification , the first reason is the text itself. the text of the assembly elections law
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has been explicitly mentioned in various articles, such as article 61 which has mentioned duties for me to present to you, the board of executive boards says that the governors are obliged to volunteer, and they are obliged to the opinion of the election executive board regarding disapproval or disqualification between disapproval and disqualification. he separates it and says that you have to do two things. non-approval, non-qualification, these two things are separate, which means that either it should be considered as a person's qualification, or if the opinion is not , if the opinion of the law was that non-qualification is necessary, then there was no need for the word "non-approval" at all. everywhere it said non-verification. not approving something
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he is going to do, not approving something, they are not the same there is a difference between these, mr. dr. khanse , whenever you think that you actually can, if you accept this , it means that if we don't verify someone's qualification , we didn't actually verify them. qualification i will not confirm it, but i will confirm it. no, not confirming. well, now i will tell you, when it comes , you can give me an answer. now i will speak in my own time , i will give my reasons, and then they will ask my doctor to answer patiently. i will say that if the legislator means this. your guardian council must meet these conditions make sure it doesn't bring up the word non-adjustment at all. the lack of verification was enough
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. there was no need for it. this is not the way to say. well, now you said that you have to verify . do i have to confirm? i said , verify. it means that if you did not verify, you did not verify. there is no need for the phrase . this is my first reason and my second reason. at all , i will go ahead of the election law, who approved the election law, which after all was the product of one of the efforts of the guardian council. this means that this law was written by the guardian council itself. i am objecting to the guardian council's own interpretation why did you interpret it like this ? you stuck to the lack of confirmation. see, in our interpretation , we must be subject to murad mughnen. all lawyers know this. the authors of our constitution are characteristic wherever you look at the negotiations. the authors of the law never considered those who
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set the powers for the guardian council. don't ever look for us to get to a situation where probably 40-30% of people don't participate. they did not mean this in the elections, that is, their will was that these conditions should be checked in such a way that more people can participate. the third reason is the nature of this. the conditions mentioned in article 31, the five conditions that i said later, you should not leave it to the shura , its characteristic is that the conditions are vague , there is no index, the herd is happy, anyone can interpret it however he wants, let 's see the conditions again. do you or mr. dr. khamsaei see the circumstances or not? practical commitment to islam. what should i do? practical commitment to islam. proven
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belief in islam . what should i do? hey , i always have these next. must mean must be in 300 and at least in the last one year , i have been asking the guardian council when i pray , how can i prove this, how does the guardian council verify this , the guardian council itself says that i must verify, it does not exist, i need to know how you believe in islam. he confirms this. well, mr. d has not yet come to me to say practical commitment . this is good. this is good. let me give practical order to the holy system of the islamic republic of islam. how can i prove it? he did not say my theoretical commitment. what should i do so that you know the holy islamic system? now, when. let me finish my sentence take it next time, excuse me when the indicators are so wide-ranging, distorting the expression of loyalty to
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the constitution, not to the constitution, to the islamic system of the revolution, well, loyal to the constitution, very well , how should i prove that another guest is joining us, sir? what do you think about mr. dr. saberi's speech, in the name of allah, the most merciful, i also offer greetings and courtesy to the honorable guests, mr. dr. saberi tolaei and mr. khamsa . that there are some conditions of presentation. guardian council too as one of the institutions that are involved in this issue, the ministry of interior, as an executive , must ensure that the candidate who enters , actually wants to be exposed to the people's vote
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, has the authority, and the guardian council that supervises this special task. the executor of both of these should actually be able to do these things. therefore, we either have to move in a direction in our own legislation where the standards are reduced, measurable, and more transparent , or we have to change the burden of proof in this field , that is, we return the issue to what the islamic council of parliament has decided. must be able to figure thank you, dear mr. mansoorin. well , let's go back to mr. khamsa, mr. doctor . what is your opinion? i would like to ask you to give me an explanation regarding the things that i have said. look at this logical principle so that we don't really know the answer to the question. in my opinion, it is not possible to have any conditions, i said that logically, in legal systems all over the world in iran and in the daily life of all rational people
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in the world, there is a condition that needs to be met. you go and choose with your eyes closed, saying that it is true because it is true no, you look again to see if the fruit is big or a genie. dr. khamsa, mr. saberi, does not reject the main issue , but his orders were only about the features. yes, now that is the next part of my proposal, so the conditions must be met. this is a part of the conditions because the difference is what i am talking about. mr. doctor, it is in this part that they say that some of the conditions must be met, some of the conditions should not be met, this is what i am saying, yes , i am saying that any condition anywhere in the world should be met. in fact , it is not possible to verify it, so see mr. dr. waghdi i beg you, if the doctor allows me to ask just one question, because you have repeated this example twice
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, if someone's wife says go buy oranges, one orange should be big, two should be juicy. 3, for example, if this model is orange, then he will tell me, but if it is orange, i will like it . i have to go to midon.
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verification with a specific ruler is much easier. the possibility of so-called latent or qualitative conditions. quantitative conditions are accepted. these are the examples that say the nationality of his birth certificate let's do it by writing the degree of education and the degree in the same education degree . it is not so easy to verify it. we put a reference, for example, the ministry of science or the ministry of health . we will inquire according to the case. its quality conditions mean that they do not have the ability to meter zeros and ones . yes, but these quality conditions are the subject of the debate whether these quality conditions can be accepted or rejected
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. you can see the main point of saying that it was discussed in relation to the presidential election. yes, that was an example. now the principle of 99, all four of them are open to your presence he said that the elections are monitored by the guardian council, for example, he clarified that it is necessary to confirm the conditions, and he clarified that he clarified all the cases, no , but the monitoring in those four elections is no different like all the others. but in another place, article 62 of the constitution has said something. article 62 of the constitution now has a phrase at the beginning, which we will skip . the phrase below is that the conditions of the electors and the elected and the quality of the election are determined by the law , contrary to article 15, which states that the conditions of election are actually the audience. the constitution itself is stated here due to the different position of the presidential election he didn't, but he said the principle that he must have the conditions , he must have the conditions, now who will determine the law of the parliament. you see, the requirements of the islamic system require that we
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simply cannot impose conditions on citizenship . quality, so let's put it aside . yes, there is quality. qualitative features, how to verify them, definitely have differences with quantitative features. this difference does not mean that we don't want verification. for example, mr. doctor himself, in the universities from morning to night, they keep doing what they say cannot be done. i don't know why they are not asked there. in fact, the candidates for membership in the board go to the universities and they say that you actually have the scientific qualification of this person. verify the scientific qualification, it can be measured, like age, citizenship, at all and never . he knows himself, he asks about his specialization , he expects all these specializations that all professors
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have together. it's not a quality thing , it's definitely a quality thing, metromac doesn't have a specific criteria, then even those things that metro has a specific criterion are now evaluated by the nobles with their own quality characteristics, that is, for example, saying i welcome your presence, the research conditions have one point , have an article, for example, two points for a book have three points. an article that has been officially published in the authorized publication of the ministry of science board , they say that we have to check whether or not to give it two points . there are actions, for example, what do i do? i agree with the academic qualification in the faculty member , you can not put quality conditions here, say that whoever comes, we say, in the name of god, go teach, no, we want to be sure this season. whether he has the necessary scientific qualification or not , there is no way. this qualitative condition must be met and
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we cannot set non-qualitative conditions. at least we have to set quality conditions because of the special requirements of this position. they take it into account, they say, for example , we invite you to a meeting, first bring a series of documents , for example, a book article. if you have this knowledge in fact, this is the method of examination. they invite a few people to sit as professors. they ask the person how many questions. can they pass it with just one question? finally, they seem to do it. we trust the faculty members that, for example, their personal ways , for example, if they don't like my appearance, or my political beliefs , if they don't like it, they don't interfere.
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it should definitely be verified. in the name of god , the light, in the name of god, the light, in the name of god, the light of the light in the name of allah , the light is upon me. in the name of allah, the light
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is the light. allah, allah, i testify that muhammad is the messenger of allah, i testify that muhammad is the messenger of allah
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, i testify that he is the highest, and allah, i testify that he is the highest, the hijjah, god is alive to peace, life is to peace.
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al-hai ali-khair al-alam allah akbar allah akbar no god, no god, no
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political and economic diversity compete with each other in the elections. the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament is the key it takes your competitors, the pricing is ordered by the government , it is subsidizing, why should there be a salary cap , we don't want to remove women from the football stadiums, it won't cure any pain , no more words or cheap sales will not lead to productivity. on the eve of the elections , be on the khabar channel every day at 15:00. in the parliament elections
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, we can say that we have nothing to do with the people, for example , revolutionizing the nation, giving so many martyrs, i ask for your presence after the revolution in the imposed war until now, when, for example, islam, the revolution, the constitution, etc. are stable, we can say that it is important to us. it is not that you
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don't have it, they say, you prove it, we ask questions, you defend yourself, argue, answer, let me see if you have the necessary scientific conditions or not? when we make a commitment to islam, it must be fulfilled . in principle, the fulfillment of any condition, whether qualitative or quantitative, in the preliminaries that i have mentioned, is useful here . there is no doubt that it must be fulfilled. let's go a bit further with that example, maybe it's not bad , they say, my wife said go buy an orange , she said some characteristics: it should be big, it should be juicy, for example , it should be orange. quality, yes, it is not possible to ask
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, for example, if i like it, what are its dimensions? after all, this person has lived with this from morning to night, for example, he knows. i am sorry for the presence of the north , but there are a few features of this. yes , it definitely has some background. when we say commitment to islam, it means that we are going to take the place of god. islam has an apparent condition, for example, whether he prays or not, whoever prays means he is committed to islam, there is no doubt, no, but a minimum. there are some conditions that you can imagine for him. tell him. you said one of them. i said fasting . let's assume the second is that prayer and fasting are not enough . you say that it is not enough. no, by the way, another condition is necessary. you can say them. don't put the other words in my mouth. praying is not enough. you just said that praying is not enough. you need another condition for you to say something else. i
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am done, let my land be finished. the house recognizes this in the inner person of god, we don't recognize that now there are legal examples. i don't want to discuss too much about those legal challenges. you say islam or, for example, suppose that repentance is a condition. where do you find a reduction in punishment or, for example, removal? yes, islam has internal conditions that can be verified by god. undoubtedly, it is true that there is no mistake in it, but according to the appearance of islam , it does not have any conditions, that is, it is only qualitative . it has no criteria. even if a person is a muslim , if he says i am a muslim, he is not committed to islam . in short, we understand that one of the important conditions of a muslim is that he fasts. for example, let's assume that if there is an islamic hijab , the islamic hijab observes some of the prominent features
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of the islamic hijab, which we know is not so much a qualitative issue. for example, like in the example of portugal, someone said, "i like it", then we do not know that person, nor the characteristics that we know in his mind . for example, someone whose behavior, speech, frankness , or confession indicates that he says, "i am this." i don't accept the constitution, we can say that he is committed to the constitution, and for example, let's assume that he has behaved in such a way that shows that he is not committed to the constitution. yes, someone says about islam, i have to check five important features, someone says i check four , and someone says i check two. he spoke, but this requirement is a qualitative condition, because in the same example, the academic board, in the same meeting where 5 professors are sitting, asks this candidate for academic membership.
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ask two people. they say it has the scientific conditions, 3 people say it doesn't. what do we do when there is a dispute? here is another logical picture in all legal systems. an issue that requires quality , for example, right now in the courts from morning to night . i wonder how questions are asked here for the dignitaries. in a thousand and one examples of daily life in our legal system , there is no question at all about everyday life. in the courts, for example, they say that the party has good intentions or you do not have bad intentions. how do you verify this, mr. doctor, bad intentions and good intentions are another esoteric matter the interpretation of mr. dr. gole ghashad in the wider herd, we don't have a wider herd, what do they do here, or for example , they say, let's say, let's say specialized issues , we refer them to a specialist expert, for example, let's say there is an issue , we go, we give it to a psychologist, for example, a doctor, we give an issue to an expert for example, housing should be recognized as an issue that
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is qualitative and not quantifiable, but the principle is obligatory or necessary, like good faith , like a thousand and one other examples. we give it to the specialist. we give it to the specialist do all the experts have the same opinion ? no, you break your ankle now. out of 10 doctors, 6 say he should operate, 4 say he shouldn't. what do we do when this happens ? the second principle here is that we tell the expert if there is a difference . it seems that we will put the majority as our basis. it is true that the majority criterion is everywhere. you think that in the same situation, all the members of the guardian council think the same way. they will never argue or convince or not convince. if they do not convince, they will get votes . mr. doctor, let me leave your discussion at one point. let's go to mr. mansooryan there is a discussion that now they are pointing out that when we cannot actually reach a conclusion , we vote
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by the majority. for whatever reason, they didn't get to the weddings, or they couldn't get a document to reject or confirm their qualification , they feel that they should leave the judgment to the people's vote, and in fact, the people will vote whether these people are qualified or not, that is, by choosing them and by participating in the elections and by voting for you. do you agree, mr. mansourian? no , you see, from the point of view of legal logic and rational requirements it is not acceptable for us to claim that the legislator predicted the conditional now. now this condition has not been met, then we want to leave this to the people themselves, if what is desired is that the people now choose those people who have the initial qualifications and those people who are now qualified among these people. it is more in line with their taste and their concerns
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, it is not acceptable for them to choose it. it is not acceptable for us to say: well, let's actually put a principle of truth here, let's say, well , now anyone can enter in cases where the condition i think we have to be careful. the main challenge now is that once we talk about the current situation of the current situation, article 31 is clearly included in the election law of the islamic council and provides 10 clauses , just like also pointing out, well, these conditions are the main part of the objective. there is also a qualitative part , so objectively there is no challenge, for example, citizenship, age , in fact, the executive history of cases like this can be verified easily. there is, but there is no doubt about the fact that these should be approved because these are conditions that mr. mansourian and mr. saberi are putting forward that
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we cannot. for this reason, we have to confirm the original. you say that it can be approved. are these conditions quantitative or relative here? we will say at some point that we are benefiting from the credit that we did in this legislative method that we had. or not , well, if this is the question, i say we can find a more favorable situation, that is, we should go in the direction of the legislation. less challenges to face how can these challenges be less? for the reason that we can create more transparency for the minds of our audience, the minds of the citizens, the minds of the political parties, the minds of the candidates themselves, that for example, if they commit these actions and reactions, they will in fact not commit, mr. mansooryan. excuse me.

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