we have similar cases in this same islamic council. what is the dignity of the islamic council apart from approving the laws? yes , there is also monitoring of the implementation of the law. it is the dignity of the parliament to see the monitoring of the laws. is the court of accounts an organization? it is merely administrative and it does not have the dignity of legislation. we can say, sir, that there is no need for the parliament and the parliament, in fact, is only for legislation. it is emphasized everywhere that it is not for legislation. there is no investment is doing and

on this basis, the judiciary is right, mr. dr. right, whose dignity is the judge and judgment , but it needs tools, including the tools, for example, for one of the duties and tasks of the judiciary to prevent the occurrence of crime , where does this prevention of the occurrence of crime actually crystallize? that's one of the issues. reducing the grounds or the things that cause crime, the discussion of formalization of real estate, the official development of documents that has this task is done by the registration organization, other things like forensic medicine, like prisons, these are among the tools that the judiciary has, yes, none of them have dignity. they do not have jurisdiction, but they are part of the system.

in the matter of proper implementation, in fact, the social justice that should be done in the society by the judiciary is an executive organization, but it is necessary for the judiciary , like the court of accounts that we say for the parliament , it is necessary to tell the court of accounts that point and that is enough. allow me to explain and then we will hear the answer. the fact that the approval of past laws does not prevent the review and approval of new laws is correct. they say that monitoring does not contradict or adapt

the laws to the general policies of the system. with the cooperation of the guardian council, the assembly recognizes the expediency of the system and approves the necessary laws to realize each of the general policies of the system. i wanna say. do we believe that the laws we approve based on the general policies announced by the supreme leader should not be compared with the correct general policies? yes, it is absolutely true , very well, the general policies of the supreme leader were announced in the 7th program, according to paragraph 26, which updated the judicial reform document and its implementation, with an emphasis on paragraph 3 of article 26, which says that the implementation of the 100th there is a limit to the policies of the power transfer document.

they are informing the judiciary and they are saying that it is the opposite of the implementation of sadr sadi's demarcation, is it true that we are saying it now, and let me tell you this point from rome, according to article 2, then according to article 2 of the hadandgar community law approved in 2013, it says that organization of deeds and real estate registration of the country is in charge of land registration. the main thing is that we say that any laws in the past will not lead to the approval of new laws. i believe that the general policies

of the supreme leader's legislative system do not say this. well, before we get into your request, if you agree, let's go together and make a report. my colleagues in the judicial group , let's see the preparations together. it is a review of the opinions of the supporters and the opponents . let's see it. we will return. gholam hossein elham, former minister of justice and former member of the guardian council, article 6 of the constitution says that the actions of the judiciary must be carried out by the courts of justice, that is, this power of limitation. it is in the court and the judiciary should not include anything other than the court behzadepour seyed deputy. legal and affairs of the parliament of the judiciary, the document is not just a physical paper, but it indicates the ownership . the registry office is not supposed to seal and sign only a paper, but the performance of this organization is a collateral communication. nasir mashaikh, a professor of registration law, is dealing with legal issues

. what most requires the incorporation of the registration organization into the executive branch is the ease of supervision of the parliament and judicial institutions over this organization. at the moment. the registration organization or its superiors are safe from the control tools of stizah, and in addition, if the regulations related to the registration of properties and documents are signed by the head of the judiciary , they cannot be reviewed by the court of justice. this illegitimate but legal privilege can lead to the imposition of regulations on citizens , which of course are not in their favor. babaei, the head of the country's real estate registration organization. the transfer of this important organization and influential to the government executive. it will lead to departure from neutrality and bias of this collection in many conflicts where the government is on the side . ali bakhtiar, former mp. according to article 156 of the constitution, registration matters

are not among the duties of the judiciary. on the other hand, registration does not have a judicial nature, but it has a legal nature. the structure of the registration organization requires that it should not be a sub-category of the judicial system. farhadi, deputy legal and parliamentary affairs, minister of justice. it is a misconception that things will speed up with the relocation of the real estate registration organization. it cannot be called dieting take a device from this branch and give it to another branch. one of the reasons cited by the parliament for joining the registration organization to the ministry of justice is the demarcation plan, which we are still 30% ahead of the plan. well, we saw the report together, mr. najarzadeh, please continue with your reasons for the implementation of the registration organization and the effects that it can have ,

and i will start again from the orders of dr. keshavarz. calculations are doing executive work , while the work of the parliament is the work of legislation see, i think the starting point and the starting point of his argument. we are faced with a problem in our semi-parliamentary and semi-presidential system, the islamic council has two dignities : it has legislative and legislative dignity and it also has the dignity of supervising the implementation of the law . the second function is monitoring the implementation of the law, but not all laws , only about monitoring the implementation of the law. the budget is monitored by the budgeting agencies of the country . therefore, we cannot say that the work of the court of accounts is executive work. by no means fully possessed there is a supervisory function. another point you mentioned was that our constitution mentions the prevention of crime as one of the duties of the judiciary

. yes, it is. but if we study this era more closely, we can see that the legislator used the word action with a special elegance. it has been used appropriately and said that it is appropriate to take action to prevent the occurrence of crime. preventing the occurrence of crime is not an issue that can be handled by a single agency or authority alone. the issue has both legislative, executive and judicial aspects for that reason. our legislator in principle 157 he didn't say that you should prevent the occurrence of crime. you said that you should take the appropriate action to prevent the occurrence of a crime. so this does not mean that now, because registration matters can lead to the prevention of crime, so it must be done. if it remains in the judiciary, this reason is not sufficient and in fact a complete reason for this opposition. your next reference to

the general legislative policies of 2018 was the position of the supreme leader. in this regard, i have to tell you , well, it is natural that when there is a general policy , it will be written in 2018, compiled and announced in that year when since our real estate registration organization is dependent on the judiciary, we cannot expect it to be included in the general policies of the system. well, i don't care where it depends now . assume that the government has to implement this duty of this policy. naturally , in that period of time, because it is dependent on the judiciary, it is also mentioned in the judicial reform document. why shouldn't we see part of the story and part let's leave the matter aside, i said , before your order, i also mentioned two other general policies, keep them in mind , the general policies of judicial security in 2081 and the policies of the judicial issue of 2008 both

emphasized the concentration of judicial affairs and the judiciary and the reform and streamlining of the judiciary, so the parliament can still legislate and separate this organization from the judiciary and assign it to any organization as it wishes. now let the ministry of justice leave our discussion in the report that you worked so hard to prepare. i would like to point out two points. they said that the issue of registration is of a legal nature and we cannot take something of a legal nature from the judiciary and leave it to our executive body, the ministry of justice. here is the question for me can we consider an action a decision that does not have legal dimensions? if we want to say that any issue that has legal dimensions should remain in the judiciary, i think that then , for example, municipalities should be defined in the judiciary , rural municipalities should also be defined in the judiciary, maybe the

radio and television should also be defined in the judiciary, because every now, there are also legal dimensions, their actions, their decisions, so this cannot be a correct issue. the last thing that was mentioned in this report was the issue of neutrality, saying that if this issue is brought up by the judiciary and the government is not neutral in this matter. well , this cannot be a valid argument. you see , in our current situation, the provincial registration supervisory board , the supreme registration council, the judiciary are located in the registration organization, and they are doing the work. my question is, if i am a citizen of these are the actions of these votes. do i want to make a protest , have a complaint, where do i take my complaint to the judiciary itself? other than that, you should see that the executive and supervisor of the judiciary itself, by the way, this impartiality is under question. if we separate this from the judicial branch, we should leave its implementation to the executive branch

is it possible to give a meaning to this complaint ? mr. keshavarz, how much do you agree with these two points? with impartiality and legality , i mentioned more about the legal nature of the organization, in fact , it is not legal. they had done, maybe their views are as clear as they say in the cases. you would be a bit more balanced if you said that in fact, how can there be both a supreme council and a supervisory board in an organization , and if there is an objection to the decisions of the supervisory board, the supreme council will come and if if he wants to object to the decisions of the supreme council of sabah , he will go to the administrative court of justice, so all this is in the collection. this is not acceptable. are all three in the judiciary or not? yes , you say this is not acceptable. the properties

, mr. dr. bozur, are related to the country's properties. if we count the country, more than 90% of the country belongs to the government, or natural resources, or foreign affairs , and it is related to road and urban planning, and so on . now the registration of documents as a neutral device is stabilizing the ownerships and disputes it is being investigated by the judiciary, yes, yes, but the property belongs to the government. now you are saying that you should give this too, sir. in fact, the same problem that they are getting now, here, in fact, that problem is about to be created. what kind of natural resources is the device that it recognizes nationalism , read people

, that's the result that you are criticizing now , mr. doctor, look, i actually want you to take a different look at the issue, and that is, any quality, mr. doctor, of any device. in its actions , it has strong points and weak points the current documents of this organization, which was established in 1990 and has been working until now, what happened that we suddenly want to make a fundamental change to the organization that has been working with these tasks for so many years . if we suddenly decide to go to one, something must

have happened . i don't understand that incident. this is one second. if in fact, i believe that the registration organization has strong points and weak points, why don't we calculate the weak points and correct them. i will not impose more costs on the country by creating the new structure, the approval of the new regulations , the imposition of the new financial property, mr. doctor, see the discussion, the documents and the discussion , in fact, the difference is from here to there . it is the government that wants to accept this. no, mr. minister of justice announced a while ago that the government

is not looking for such an issue, then why is he insisting on so many issues next to that mr. dr. ma? i think that it is not ethical, instead of answering , please see, dear dr. keshavarz , i have served you. to a logic and argument to the person who has it he talks about being attacked and saying that now you don't have any executive experience, so you can't do it . maybe you were more analytical

. i might be able to. in addition to doing this work anywhere, the first point, the second point, see that it should not be done all at once, which i am the first to emphasize. it should be specialized and done accurately it should be done gradually , i am completely against doing it all at once, and it is definitely not advisable. the next point you said was that, well. sir, the government itself has said that i don't want it, the minister of justice has also said that i am not following this issue , so why are you following it? i think this is not an accurate statement. now let's say that because the person who is supposed to be responsible for his future has turned back and said that i don't want to announce the government's opinion. their own opinion, yes, yes, that's what i'm saying, because this government or any other government comes and says i don't want to do this, even though we know

it's the right thing to say, now because it doesn't want to, then we we have nothing to do with it, because the islamic council, through the specialized study institution it has and other research institutions of the country, when they reach a certain point, consider something correct , which is in the interest of the country, in the interest of the country, which must be done. it has to be done, this is not a personal matter that this or that authority wants to say that i don't want to do this. if the results of the studies come to this conclusion, we don't have to discuss any more compliments in this field. the scientific mission of the research mission. i have it, although maybe according to your words do not be ineffective. another argument that you said that we have many problems in the country , let's go to other problems, well , i think it is clear that this is not the right reason . now we have an issue on the table that is included in the 7th plan law

called the transfer of the real estate registration organization to the ministry of justice. well, we have to solve this. it should be an assignment, we can't talk about it because we have other problems, so we won't deal with this issue either. i will make it shorter, of course, i would like to ask you to see if we study the laws related to the country's real estate registration organization, we will see that its duties are not outside of these seven items that i am presenting to you, if i am wrong, please correct me. please register real estate and properties. this is an operational field that is under the authority of the registration organization, the registration of various transactions and contracts that people have , the actual registration of marriage and divorce by this owner registration organization. industrial, such as inventions, etc., registration of companies , non-commercial institutions, implementation of the provisions of official and valid documents and settlement of registration disputes.

of these seven cases that i mentioned, maybe only the last one is similar to a judicial order, that is , the settlement of people's registration disputes by this organization . i emphasize the word that i used, similar to a judicial order. an official is sitting at a table and is resolving people's disputes. this is definitely not a judicial matter, that is, i have no business with other cases. in my opinion, property registration, marriage transactions, divorce , industrial ownership, company registration, and the implementation of the provisions of official documents are clearly defined, which are executive and non-executive in nature. judiciary is the only case to resolve the registered disputes of this case i also emphasize that it is quasi-judicial, not completely judicial. see, we have many executive institutions. we have those who are doing quasi-judicial work , let's say that in the ministry of labor cooperation and social welfare , we have the labor assessment board, we have the labor dispute resolution board

, they are exactly solving the dispute between the worker and the employer, but we don't call it judicial work because is this work being done in an executive body or in the ministry of economy and financial affairs ? we have tax commissions. at the same municipality that we mentioned has the article 100 commission and the article 77 commission. they are exactly resolving people's disputes, but it is not called judicial work, so i am asking you to address these duties and if you recognize that these seven duties that i have mentioned are there is a judiciary, so please let me talk about them, only i will say it in parentheses, because i have done an investigation now , mr. manzoor, when it was approved in the parliament , during the seventh program, they announced that they agree with the transfer of the real estate registration organization to the ministry of justice, the same as the sixth word. this is definitely for the benefit of the people this is what mr. manzoor said, the statement

that i mentioned is from the statement of mr. honorable minister of justice, that is, i spoke as a representative of the government there. in fact, i am referring to his point of view, which stated that the government does not have this decision. i do not insist on it at all. mr. doctor, i don't want to prove that the document registration organization has a judicial debate, and from the beginning of my discussion , i did not use such a word at all, and yes , i also agree that the registration organization is doing the executive debate, so what authority do i have now? now you say it, i don't like it at all i didn't mention these things, but i'm telling you about this so that you can see how closely related it is. we have 494 registration units in the whole country, and each

registration unit has at least two boards, a board for dealing with normal documents, which as a law determines the task of the status. it is handling the registry and land without buildings. it has three members, a judicial member and a sabbath member. and one member should be inside the area, the road and urban development should be outside the area , we have another committee from jihad agriculture, we have an organizing law to add articles to the organizing law that deal with rural residential contexts and cities with less than 25,000 people. a representative from the judicial branch, a judge and a chairman of the basket and the chairman of the foundation, look at this from this point of view. i would like to say that there are about 500 registration units, each registration unit has 2 fixed judges, it can be up to 1000 in the provinces, mr. doctor.

they are there and we have a director general of the notary court to investigate the disciplinary violations of the notary public, a member of the judge of the tajin court has the opinion of the family, a registry and one in the organization and another board in the provincial capitals. remind us that we have four minutes, one minute for you and two minutes for mr. n count on that, mr. doctor , as well as the seb organization of the supreme council of seb, two judges of the supreme court and the deputy of real estate in the field of real estate , the deputy of documents in the field of documents . and look at the interaction , there are almost 1,200 people working in the registration organization, this should not be compared

with, for example, i am running a business. at the provincial level, each of them has one judge for that matter, 30 people are not comparable to 120 people. that dealing with registration matters , distinguishing ownerships, is the matter of the supervisory board that we are talking about, article 6 of the registration law says that the handling of disputes and registration errors with the supervisory board is legal in nature, i am not saying at all, i do not want to use these cases to prove it is a judicial matter, but i believe that the cooperation is very close. besides, i still did not get an answer to my question, mr. doctor, and what is the reason for your decision that the sab organization should go, other than the description you said , it does not have a judicial function. there are only 40 seconds left in your time, so i would like to ask a question to you. what do you think if this happens?

what damage and disturbance. regarding the registration work process of the people and the country, will it be created? disruption in the current registration services, right now, mr. doctor , we have 270 contracts for the implementation of delimitation that we have concluded with companies, they are doing the work both in the issue of ownership documents and in the completion of delimitation , which is the emphasis of the supreme leader and the head of the department, and also the government of these will cause an interruption, while its preparation and transfer to the government requires the creation of new laws, the creation of a new structure, the forecasting of financial and budget issues, which will take time and cause a long interruption in the provision of services. yes, and there must be a great need to answer all of this, which is not the case, mr. najzadeh , we have two minutes. one question is, basically , why did we go in

this direction now? it was yes. i think your question was the last word of the doctor's own question, what is the need to go in this direction? i think that at least four or five necessities or advantages for this transfer can be listed. in my opinion, the first and perhaps one of the most important advantages that with this change, it will be possible to find the meaning of judicial supervision over registration matters i told the country, i will repeat once again that currently our registration affairs are completely concentrated in the judiciary itself, from the stage of diagnosis to certainty and then the resolution of disputes. i have nothing to do with the judiciary, meaning the judiciary of the islamic republic of iran in its current state . i think that if we leave this issue to the government, to any group of the government, which in my opinion

is the most appropriate ministry of justice, then the ministry of justice will be the executive and the judicial system with by the way, the very powerful judicial tools at his disposal can provide the issue of registration and registration security better for the people, because he will be a supervisor over another executive that exists in the name of the ministry of justice. this is the first position that will be created . the second position that will be created is that it establishes the possibility of parliamentary supervision. at present , the islamic council, all the good viewers of the higher program who have accompanied us until this moment, may god protect you from any dream. today, wherever we are, we will be higher tomorrow.

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