[000:00:00;00] thank you for being a viewer of the news network. the importance of elections in electing a strong parliament is the key. it is in the hands of the people. the iranian coach, sharaf iran , has a telegram playing with the whole country. why is the pricing in these six months? your question is an interesting question. you are a football manager. we do not want any kind of treatment. we do not agree with this part of the debate between the supporters and opponents of the dedicated rural leader plan, just like

your service. i said that the important headlines are the same , to see how much damage has been done, if this happened, how much damage has been done to the image of the village or how much it has been able to help. to the situation, to facilitate the life situation in the villages , basically, how much iranian islamic architecture has been observed there in this reconstruction and how much it has been able to contribute to food security . while greeting both guests , i would like permission to start with mr. vermziari, but before i start with you, if you agree

, a report. prepare in the agricultural group of sada and vasima news agency. let's see it together . let's go back and start the debate. the houses in the villages are getting smaller and smaller. rural houses in the recent years, the village means the work of agriculture, animal husbandry and distance from production in some villages, that is, the rural house was also considered a production workshop, the issue that the villagers see as the reason for the lack of residential land and say that some rural houses have it looks like an apartment, the multi-storey construction is not possible now due to the lack of ground and support. we treated the village exactly like a city, while the village with its livestock and its own special activities

was actually a different texture. to organize the range of the right. and rebuilding kuche and maawar have a project called the hadi design. beautiful walls are built. everyone who comes here enjoys it, but the implementation of this project has created problems in the villages, one of which is the lack of residential land and the increase in its price. there is very little land to buy. it is possible to value the land very high on the planning side. the development of the village lands is not much visible. this issue was opened to the supreme housing council, and the result was that the housing foundation would make reforms in the implementation of hadi's plan. with the approach of the government in the housing field of arazi's annexation to the village has found more difficult conditions. we have brought these plans to the review stage so that the amount required for housing construction in these villages is added to the plans. supposed to be

with who want to live in the villages, the plan implemented in qom and south khorasan and other provinces are also waiting for the housing foundation to notify them of their quota . a village traditional performance in the village in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful

dear, i hope that all of us will benefit from these al-bizi days that have passed, and in fact they were special days, and the remaining days of the month of rajab . agricultural lands, village lands in general, and the two debates of determining access, which are roads, streets , etc., in fact, see, our discussion is, what is our priority in rural areas now, why is migration happening now, if we want to do a problem analysis and our actions , because after all, the resources of the government are not limited, they are unlimited it's not that it's limited, the resources of the government's budget that it wants to spend every year for our various plans, if we want to implement a plan for the whole village that will reduce immigration and increase the longevity of people

in the village, it must have a prioritization, a financial discipline and prioritization. okay, the country, finally, since the time when hazrat agha raised the issue of resistance economy , all our policies in the rural area should be based on this issue. he found that the plan we are implementing should see if it helps or weakens the economy of the village . unfortunately, many places have changed the utilization of agricultural lands, and one of the basic resources of the village economy is the agricultural sector with all its sub-branches, horticulture, medicinal plants, and the like . it takes many years to form, it doesn't mean that, for example, if we run out of land and in my country we have 1,200,000 hectares, only we have first-class land, which means that they have no restrictions on production, they are the best land , the rest are grades that limit production

it is in them and we can get it so easily let's start, well, finally, for our production, as i mentioned , the agricultural economy is one of the basic infrastructures of the rural economy. this is a later discussion. second, well, now considering that the policies of the resistance economy are announced and we should have moved in that direction, our discussion since years ago is that if the government has limited credits , we should prioritize this and see what plan can help more. for the economy of the village, to stay in the village, let's go to that direction , take our plan to that direction, not, for example, a plan that just defines the body. where is the way? ok, well, once this is finally determined , most of the main part of the problem will be solved, maybe there is no need, even for example, once in 10 years, a basic review should be done here, except for

a certain percentage of villages, which are finally more dynamic and more populous. they are in need of a transformation, but our main issue is that we must recognize the basic priority of the village and allocate our resources accordingly. and in your opinion, this has not happened much until now , not until now, because the discussion of hadi was more of a bad thing , it went in that direction and it is limited to discussion in the form of limits. the village is according to the law and according to the bylaws in the form of the village boundaries, while many of the economic activities of the village take place outside the village boundaries . thank you , mr. valivari, why do you agree ? i also offer greetings, courtesy and respect to you , dear colleagues, viewers of the islamic republic of iran tv

, i congratulate you in advance on the auspicious decade of fajr. we have arrived at all what was the necessity of hadi's plan and how did we get to this issue? well, basically, our country was full of rural people, or the village was the foundation of our social life, but we actually reached a rural society very quickly and in a short period of time. for an urban society, in 1335 , we had around 70% 69 70% rural residents in the country, while the rest were urban residents. in 140, the last estimate that the statistics center had, in fact, we had 234 rural residents. during the period when the country's population has quadrupled, the urban population has increased 10 times and the rural population has increased 6 times, the process has slowed down the tendency towards cities, but the fire of urbanization

is still there in our country , so add technological developments and changes to this. we had a village that had an organic state , and there was a traditional business there. from there , we reached a village that was under the control of the car , under the control of education and service networks. in those days, electricity and water were supposed to be cut off. if it is pulled, the gas is pulled, well, this village is no longer responsive, this village is actually finding these problems, from here, in fact, the issue of intervention in the village, management and planning of the village. the issue of housing for the underprivileged is brought up. in fact, i might say that the starting point of this issue is that hazrat imam in 1958 actually started the issue. i will continue with the establishment of the foundation. the issue of housing in the real

village is raised in clause seven of the housing foundation's statutes, article 7 of the housing foundation's statutes , the discussion of hadi plans is discussed. at least the rule and framework of the acute rural plan is actually to transform the village. we are here to serve you now 60,000 settlements. now, the settlements that we call villages in the country are about 40,000 to over 20 households . 20 housewives have a conductor plan, now there is a discussion. this is that this stage

is actually the preparation of the plan, but when it comes to the implementation of the plan, the issues become much more complicated, the discussion becomes much more detailed, however, i mentioned a necessity, one of which is the discussion of the fact that the villages are car-oriented, the discussion of the improvements and services that can be provided to the village, the discussion of the environmental hazards that in fact, we will talk about it in the next discussion, which made it necessary to create a plan that can saman should recreate the village in a way. it has been noticed that hadi's plan has come exactly. do the same thing. mr. varmzari, in your opinion , does this necessity require such a plan or not , according to the explanations you had in your previous order ? now, my question is whether, for example, how high is the durability and endurance of our rural settlements against natural hazards? how many percent of our villagers live in vulnerable houses?

against earthquakes and floods and other things like our villages sir, they are vulnerable to this damage in the front line, the first place that the flood destroys is the village , so now it has to reach the city . we should build a resistant housing, we should have housing retrofitting, this discussion is different from that of hadi, a villager may have hadi, but it is a resistant housing. no, yes, the foundation of the housing construction is laid in the guide, for example, what are the dimensions , but what materials are used. how much attention should local architecture pay or not? one of our criticisms is that terhai hadi paid very little attention to the issue of iranian islamic architecture . traditional house with architecture. engineering, for example, has been built

for a thousand years, but nothing has happened, but the modern house that was built has been razed to the ground , which means that the people who live in that village have reached a knowledge of how to build a house over the course of thousands of years, but we have not recognized this. we did not come to know this let's promote it, while if i'm not mistaken, we had a clause in the law of the fifth plan regarding the compilation of iranian islamic architectural model, which has not been compiled yet, this means that it was only limited to words and speech, and these are, for example, an executive regulation. ok, let it be a practical order , let it be included in the standards of housing construction , we don't have such a thing, then our next question is that we, mr. doctor, who say that we, for example , plan as an interventionist, well , i don't like the word intervention very much because it is participation. people should be reminded that unfortunately this is one of iran's problems the projects fail to attract the real and complete participation of the people in all stages, but

now that we say that it is transformative , it creates transformation in the village. we don't attract real people, we don't take them into consideration, either in the design phase, in the implementation phase, or in the evaluation phase of mr. kali's plan, there are three or four questions, from the change of use and criticism of the architecture. the discussion of people's participation in the intervention that you mentioned, yes, in connection with the issue of whether we have now reached the implementation of hadi's plan that durable housing and what is the connection between these two issues? i would like to point out that in fact , the rate of sustainable rural housing has increased from 7% at the beginning of the revolution to over 50%. i am not saying that all of this is related to the implementation of the emergency plan, but i am presenting to you based on the

statistics, dr. which is in lorestan, khuzestan and golestan and gonbad region. according to the available statistics, the destruction of russian residential units happened . first of all, the majority of the destruction happened in the villages , so this intervention that i mentioned is not for the purpose of ignoring the people. it has the structure and consistency of people's participation, because the mayor can actually play a role in it, so can the council, and the mayor and the council can transmit people's opinions. in fact, the set of plans from the consultant and decision-maker, and in fact the approver and approver, can play a role . i also agree with mr. doctor that these are most likely the way they should be and maybe conveying people's opinions. they are not in the process of the hadi plan, but

i was saying that the statistics show that the villages whose hadi plan was implemented and of course the implementation was done properly. the better, the more favorable the material, the better the width at your service, they saw less damage and in three provinces it was actually tangible, even in the kermanshah earthquake , clearly the residential units that were built under the supervision of the housing foundation with better and better quality materials showed more resistance and saw less damage. in our good servant's opinion , the villages are arranged according to an organic order , many of our villages , mr. dr. the one who organizes these is at the same point of the problem

these will not go away, the village relocation plan is actually an encroachment on the privacy of rivers and riverbeds, which is a very high issue in our country, and approximately 33% of these encroachments and encroachments on the privacy of daily life are carried out by villages and rural areas. if we consider this issue as well, the need to create a plan that fully identifies the region , knows its capacities and knows the dangers there is actually visible, mr. barmzai, you are convinced , thank you very much for your explanation i am asking for the same. let's discuss let's not tie the vulnerability to risks to the discussion of design and rurality. i said that a village can have terraces, but its housing is not yet resistant because the villagers are not yet able to afford it, for example, a proper architecture that is resistant to earthquakes is defined for it

in that case, we can't necessarily tie these things together . the second point is that now, around 40 years old , our rural houses still do not have the necessary endurance and strength against natural calamities, and this percentage is lower in cities, much lower than this. is a number and this shows that while now we have 100 more villages , more than 20 of our women, the plan has been prepared, now i think 50 percent have been implemented for them, well, this actually shows that we are not necessary, in fact, the description of the services of the conductors is nothing, especially that for example, we villages let's make it sustainable against the so-called risks, and it is actually related to many other things, this issue is that we say that it is a participatory plan , see if a consulting company prepares the plan

, and then, for example, the signature of dehiar and the council should be taken, this is the truth, i am a participant and the serious level of participation such as participation. don't do it , don't ask for my opinion, don't even invite a meeting, that is, when we say participation, it means the jihadi group that is active there should be asked for its opinion. the creator who is there should be asked for his opinion, the agriculture that exists should be just to say that belhari is elected by the council, the council is elected, now we

don't want to get into the criticism of the village council and how much they can or cannot represent the public opinion of the village there is, we don't want to get into it, but i mean that this partnership we are talking about goes beyond, for example, so let's prepare something , get a signature from the village head of the council, and then call it village participation. this is really not acceptable in my opinion . it is not acceptable for an acceptable level of participation . in addition, our villages have been smart since the old days when they chose the village and their place of residence. hareem rodkhone has been built, these are the phenomena that have become very prosperous in the past 10-20 years, and once you see, for example, there is so much construction next to chalus road , which village is this, for example?

the village of kandor is built by that city, the second house that he came to build with any relationship or anything, and by the way, the smoke is in the eyes of that village that has done a correct location for years and hundreds of years ago, the smoke is in his eyes because it is in front of the water flow. it happens, once there is a flood , then there is another flood in rural and non-rural areas. we who say that the so-called leader should be more compatible with the economy of the village , we go to many places, we make the village stylish and tidy , we make the village look like a city, we pave it, and then the cattle move in the winter area. it is splashing broken well, what is actually the balance between the economy of the village and the body of the village and the physics of the village

? it is because of these policies and programs that we have evacuated that element of production from the village in many places . my opinion is that a fundamental transformation and revision is necessary. thank you, mr. belnouri . you raised 3 points, one is the transformation of villages into cities, the change of use and iranian islamic architecture. these three answers are related to one issue . to be means to be smart from the beginning in fact, the new rural settlements or rural outskirts that are considered as second homes by the cities are those who do not comply with the geographical requirements of that place . some of our villages, if you have visited the western region of the country, are located on slopes that are prone

to landslides. now, the climatic and geographical conditions may have been such that 40 years ago, 50 years ago , the vegetation cover of the land is a danger to the village in that area. the mountain does not threaten, but with the increase in the population of the village and the events that happened i fell for the village. well, many of our villages really have the same conditions , they are located on the slopes of the rivers, in the valleys, they are located on the slopes that are prone to sliding and falling , they are built with non-durable materials. the issue of flower straw and wooden beam, well, we have seen this firsthand, even with a single rain, it is a bit higher than the state. normally, many of the village's buildings collapse, and this is not true for you to say that, for example

, hadi's design cannot have any role in this case. regarding the discussion of islamic iranian architecture, now i prefer the architecture compatible with the climate, maybe a little closer to the topic. they say this correctly . i agree with mr. doctor that the architecture in the village is considered where does this issue originate from, in my opinion, a typical and single view of the plan discussion, which is one of the disadvantages of hadi's plan in a village that is based on animal husbandry , because all our villages, which are not animal husbandry, are not all agricultural, but tourist villages. we have an industrial village, it is even a village, but you see that they design and organize the roads in a way that at all, livestock cannot move easily or vice versa , for example, for villages where the economy of that village is based on, for example, transit and, in fact, transportation is done by heavy machines, these are not observed

in hadi's designs in many places, this is actually visible. the next issue that you mentioned, in addition to the discussion of architecture, the point that mr. doctor said is the transformation of the village into a city, the transformation of the village into a city , well, maybe one of the reasons for the growth of our urbanization goes back to this issue, that is, our urbanization is affected by several factors, and i mentioned that the villages there is a fire that will turn into a city, this is the leader's plan the implementation of the hadi plan has also helped this. the topic and fueling this topic, the village that has changed from its traditional and organic state with its traditional economic state has taken on a new shape and image, new buildings, new roads, slowly , they are trying to bring institutions that can, as the famous saying goes, establish themselves in they define the shape of the city and distance themselves from the main function of their own village

. it prevents such things as land grabbing and illegal and destructive constructions outside the boundaries of the villages . in a simple example of a rural conductor plan of a similar direction is with detailed plans in cities and megacities. dr. hojjat vermoziari, a member of the faculty of tehran university. in this plan, the principles of islamic village architecture have not been formulated and specified, and therefore, in many cases, villages

lose their rural nature as a result of construction plans, especially hadi's plan. dr. mohammad. kathy , an assistant professor at tarbiat modares university, due to the existence of the crisis in rural construction and the need to control it, the rural leader's plan can bring about their social development through the physical modification of rural settlements, because despite the fundamental global developments in rural development still many villages of the country do not have the physical conditions and standards of life of rural dwellers. dr. mohammad. farsian, a member of the majlis research center, after the formation of village councils as the executive lever of local management and with this institution being obliged to carry out some development tasks in the villages, a kind of duality was created between the islamic revolution housing foundation and the village councils regarding the implementation of hadi projects. became. dr. sajid nemati, researcher of rural economy. however, how to prepare and revise and

even implement hadi plan has many problems and at the level. there is a low operational level, but a comprehensive view it has to improve the village. therefore , taking into account the impact and impressions of spatial, environmental, social and even economic factors, this plan can be considered an effective specialized road map. dr. saman wali noori, a member of the academic faculty of kharazmi university, the evolution of rethinking in the thinking that governs hadi's plan is inevitable and unavoidable, because many theories and intellectual approaches are responsive and open the way due to various and all-round developments in human society. they are not for explaining and solving their problems and needs. ali reza shaukati, sed and sima news agency. yes, the report of mr. corporate together we would like mr. vermziari to tell us that we have heard the opinions of some other supporters, what is your opinion? yes

, see that the plans of the rural leader. they lead to less destruction of agricultural land , the evidence is completely opposite to this fact, that is, when the land enters the village area , it is included in the rural land use plan. it is practically excluded from the scope of the law on preserving the use of agricultural land, which is the only law that is enacted to preserve the use of agricultural land. in the country, it is excluded from the scope of land use. well, when a land is excluded from the scope of the land use preservation law, it is very obvious that it is possible to change its use. by far it will increase, more than 100 thousand hectares , now i think, i don't know, 145 thousand hectares, if i am not mistaken, between 100 and 150 thousand hectares of valuable agricultural land in 3 northern provinces of the country was entered into the scope of the rural guide plans unnecessarily. it is unnecessary that the general inspection organization of the country came in, it was revised again, these are out of the scope of tarhati, well, these