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tv   [untitled]    January 28, 2024 7:30pm-8:00pm IRST

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the key to electing a strong parliament is in the hands of the people , the iranian coach sharaf iran has a telegram channel. it plays across the country , why is your question an interesting question in these 6 months of pricing? you are a football manager , we don't want to be a football player . in the name of god, greetings, courtesy, respect, and service
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to you, each and every one of you, dear and respected viewers, especially for the higher leadership program, in recent meetings, they themselves called the real competition one of the important elements of the election , in the sense that the spectrums, groups and currents express various political, economic, cultural and social issues and participate in the big election contest and form a real competition. one of the topics on which different views differ is the discussion of how to increase people's access to services. legally, there are several points of view, the most important one is that one point of view says that we should come to your presence through my offer to increase the capacity of this work . especially since we are talking about lawyers , i invite my colleague to prepare a report let's see the report together first, let's go back and introduce the guests to you, and then we'll start the program together. morteza zamanian, a member of
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amirkabir university's faculty and a researcher of business licenses , must consult a lawyer to do many things . one of the problems of the legal services market is the way of choosing a lawyer. there is no specific reference for information about the quality of a lawyer, and people often choose a lawyer without knowing enough about a person's background. the ranking system of lawyers is considered an important issue in this sector. hamed dehghan expert in legal issues and business licenses. mandating a lawyer is equal to violating people's rights and imposing additional costs, and people who have the financial means have to pay additional costs to the lawyer , while they are not satisfied with paying these funds, and those who do not have the financial means to hire a lawyer are forced to prove they have to file a petition for declaration and the processing of this petition will delay the proceedings. ahmad sargazi
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, the representative of the people of zabul in the islamic council, the system of transparency of the performance of lawyers provides a better access for the people to lawyers. anticipating a process for obtaining the opinions of clients and beneficiaries and other information and the field of advocacy makes decision-making easier. jafar kosha, head of the national union of iranian bar associations or skoda. mandatory lawyer causes case number and lawsuits.
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development of judicial compensation insurance, which unfortunately has no experience in this field in the country. another solution is to make legal representation mandatory by considering the attorney's fee ceiling in important lawsuits. of course, even now, in some cases where the accused does not have a lawyer , a lawyer must be used to defend the accused according to the law. ebrahim kayani, spokesman for the vice president of skoda. people who can afford to pay attorney's fees they have to pay according to the tariff in an agreed manner, and those people who do not have the financial ability to pay lawyers, in these cases , the lawyers' association helps them on a fee basis. the lawyers' association is trying to review and submit its proposals to the parliamentarians regarding the mandatory representation of a family lawyer. well, we saw the report together and reviewed the positive and negative opinions regarding the development of the market and the accessibility of my services . and let me introduce the guest to you
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. let's start our discussion . there is a privatization organization and mr. farhanakian is a member of the board of directors of the association of justice lawyers of the center. greetings and good luck to both of you. i want to start with mr. farhanakian and the question of how mr. farhanakian evaluates the state of people's access to legal services, specifically lawyers. is it good or not? in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i have a good time. dear mr. gurbanzadeh , i am serving you and
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the esteemed viewers . i regularly subscribe to the official newspaper i have been reading its paper version for almost 20 years, and in these 20 years, i have realized how much the quality of legislation has grown in the country, and now , especially in the last few years, especially in this recent parliament , reading the official newspaper takes serious time from me. and this shows the amount of work that is being done in the parliament and the regulatory parts of the government, and after all, the work is not perfect, but i had the duty to thank you here . regarding the discussion of the question you asked,
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we are not in a favorable position, but we are also not at a point where if someone if he wants to get the services of a lawyer , it is not available to him, the problem is that this amount is more the market has not taken an orderly shape, it remains as if you want to buy this sex, you don't know where it comes from or if there is a concentrated market for it, you will direct it there. i think we should discuss this point more and talk about the method . qurbanzadeh, what is your opinion , how do you evaluate, how much do you agree with mr. farhanakian's statements with this introduction . dear mr. farhanakian and all dear viewers , people's access to legal services is undoubtedly a disaster because what is really the model
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it is considered desirable in our society in the field of legal services, unfortunately, and people rely on experts in my legal field for judicial and non-judicial services , for consulting services and services, in fact , judicial services, due to the lack of sufficient information, due to the high transaction cost, and due to unfortunate lack of trust and wealth. the small and unstandardized attorney's fees result in this situation , which i said in one word, a disaster, that is, the people of iran , despite the fact that
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there are many people who have graduated from law and are interns and attorneys at law, but at the same time, they have decent access to this field does not exist. the details of which, god willing , i will tell in my petition. all right. mr. farhanakian , you yourself said that the situation is not very favorable. how many solutions do you suggest to reach your desired situation? for example, we always see in our movies that everything happens quickly . do you think that in order for this to happen, many people will use these lawyer services in the real world, what should you do and think of a solution.
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it is not at all necessary to remind, so part of the term "catastrophe" used by mr. ghorban it goes back to the cultural discussion. it means that it should be a cultural thing and the problem is that the radio and television are very effective in this case. you see, i am not against that, for example, in the roles, they must play a positive role, not a negative role. you can make a movie about this. the production program showed how a person can use this right, and the story means that i want to say that in
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this story, both our judicial system and our lawyer system are oppressed . conversation hey, mr. gurbanzadeh, i agree with them that we could not connect the supply and demand system, that is, if i look at the economics of the issue, it is like this that some people are demanding, they don't know where, for us, we need to talk more about this and focus, let's see that you are here how successful were we and what else should we do, mr. gurbanzadeh ? do you think, like mr. farhanakian, that the problem is more cultural or more in the field of currency demand? save water, use gas, use electricity, how much?
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it has an effect and it has an effect, directly, indirectly , the subtitles of baba elgi, i don't know, actually, thousands of clips and animations, etc. why doesn't it have the effect it should have, why does it make no difference to me at home . unless i have a very special restriction with yeh, in fact, a special relationship of compassion and education because we basically went the wrong way, this is only focused on the area we are talking about now, not legal services, because we did not learn the rules of the game, which we should it's easy for me to wear a jacket at home and lower the temperature. cost-effective means that you are in economic logic
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my wife feels that if i do this , there is a definite benefit. this specific benefit has two interpretations, i.e. it will be directly deposited into my account or i will benefit from leaving. the translation of this example that i gave in the field of legal services is that people will not do this if television advertises it day and night in the field of legal services to help them use legal advice and a lawyer . taking mr. farhanakian's demand, we need it now, but demand is not necessarily equivalent to need. in fact, referencing opinions of course, we don't have accurate opinion polls, and
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i wish the trustees of this area, which are usually attorneys' associations, would do this . why do many people in the field of consulting affairs and in fact do not refer to their attorneys , they have an assumption, honorable people, but i believe. if this opinion poll is done accurately , the results will definitely be different. one is that the people do not have enough knowledge , because we only have one basic lawyer of a justice system, and people do not know that a basic lawyer of a justice system is a homicide specialist or a queen specialist or a registry specialist or thousands of other issues such as the current rule is that everyone they claim all fields, and basically, we don't have two, three, etc., so we don't have a rating . this is one of the reasons. people think that if you don't have expertise in medicine, you will be confused
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as to who you should refer to for the heart, eyes, etc. i said that it goes back to the field of grading and specialization , we did not gain enough trust, that is, again, in opinion polls, lawyers are very competent people and in fact there is compassion, but in cases. different for different reasons, this part of which is basically infrastructure unfortunately , there are unhealthy relationships between judges and lawyers in various cases, and this is partly due to the salary situation of judges , and partly because of the corruption that unfortunately exists in these unhealthy relationships
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. when i see him going towards me, he stops. does he do it, or in other relationships, basically, this trust is revoked, because sometimes he sees that this lawyer has relationships with that lawyer or with that other client. this is the second, third , that there is no standard for the index of payment of fees and attorney's fees. i say that there is no standard. i know it. there is a tariff, etc., but we are talking about a market where the real price of the service is discovered, based on what is known, how dowry, alimony, family matters, property matters , company business matters, etc. proceed, because here, practically, people they look at who they are with and what they are doing, the ceiling and the floor, etc., and these are also meaningless. i do not believe that a ceiling and in fact a red line should be put, but
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i do not use the word cheap, nor the word expensive. in other words, we say affordability means cost- effectiveness, which means the logic that makes people in every some people feel that they can sometimes even do this service themselves, but they entrust it to another person because it costs money. economically, for the time being, such an index does not exist, for reasons that i will explain again, so these three items the trust was enough. and in fact, the indicator that we don't have in the field of attorney 's fees is, in your opinion, cost-effective . are legal judicial services for the people or not a hundred good, cost-effective ? we will write on my wall at the end of this harm
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i know, but this is due to the confusion and embarrassment that the incident that i mentioned did not happen , that is, what causes enough knowledge to be created , the difference between doug and dushab will become clear, and gradually people will know who they should go to in which field. of course, leaders, i consider these to be lost opportunities that the trustee of the legal institution could have dealt with over the years and this happened. thank you, mr. farhanakian. ghorbanzadeh
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in any case, we need to tell you about its importance and the difference was to specify its absence , it is not ineffective, although, according to mr. gurbanzadeh's speech , we will not get the full effect. another point is that people do not have enough knowledge of his expertise . the work of lawyers should be done in a proper way. we are not allowed to come to the lawyers' center based on the current regulations and specialize in the way that it is for doctors
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. it is not very common in the rest of the world, that is , they allow the market and open demand. it is not like that if he makes his own lawyers' work for example, different specializations have their own demands . there are some cases that people are very involved with. there can be more specializations, some less . the stronger the economy, the more these specializations will be created. in fact, we cannot create mandated specialization even if we set the rules for it, and that is the result. the one we need to get, so the serious part. it goes back to our economy, which then has an impact on the economy of lawyers, that they don't have enough trust, and they are followed up, then unhealthy relationships between the judge and the attorney-at-law, see, my experience in the board of directors and lawyers show that a serious part of this there is an unhealthy relationship between the lawyers
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who have become lawyers and the judges who are working now, that is, those of us who become lawyers from the beginning can do less. this is an unhealthy relationship . in fact, we are in the spiral of corruption. we allow them to become lawyers, and then because they have their own previous relationships in the system, this corruption may be formed. paying the right and hard work is actually a system again, the system is demand-driven, which means we cannot advocate for supply. and let's say to the lawyers that the market is free and facilitate their entry, and after the light about their rights and burdens, the amount of rights and burdens. in fact, if
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we believe that if we increase the supply, the rights and burdens should be adjusted, which means that the rights and burdens are mandatory. it is possible to talk, but currently, the fees and expenses of lawyers are really proportionate to the fees of the proceedings, even i can say that compared to our fees. compared to the rest of the world, it is much more than the lawyer's fee in the world, that is, in fact, we have an expensive judicial system, we do not have an affordable judicial system. we tried to price the lawyer, but we tried to increase the cost of the lawyer because we tried to reduce the dependence of the judiciary on the public budget , mr. gurbanzadeh. the recognition they have. these points that i am presenting, in fact , i am presenting the system of supervision of the legal institution, regarding the anomalous situation that exists and the neglects that
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have been done in the past years, or the current situation that repeats this vicious cycle again . not your excellency, because after all, you are too you are a scientific person and it is actually known in this field . basically, there is an income gap, or in a way i call it , there is actually a class separation , unfortunately, there is a class division between lawyers. after different courses, he has reached a level where he takes on cases worth billions, competes in elections and in the board of directors, in fact he gets a position in these relationships
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, he is not too worried about his income. these people are the people who are in this competition because they spent two years the board of directors are present, entered into a competition, well, logic election that two spectrums or actually different people and different persons are facing each other, this is all a disaster . you can see the orders of the meetings of the board of directors of all centers, what about the center, etc. , for example, monday, january 18, the meeting of the 104th session of the 32nd term of the board he was the director of the center's lawyers' association . there is an order on the website of the lawyers' association. a record of outstanding orders. in fact, requests for issuance and transfer. in fact, trainees or
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attorneys . we go to the records of these two orders. basically, the security camera of the association of lawyers is very focused on its public interest , that is, to think that how can i provide quick access to affordable quality to the people, a small part of the concern actually takes away the friends than what is now for trade union, even i can say it more simply , you search for lawyer in google. you will find the lawyer you are looking for until you get to the website of the lawyers' association , where you will see a number of these, in fact
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, personal collections and institutions , etc. must with to find a lawyer, you need to know the person's license number, or in fact , you have to mix several items in the search . even though you know that there is no other service that does not exist in the form of a platform that you can easily access the people who provide that service , because you are shaking your head a lot, i will stop , but i will continue to say that in these three or four minutes , if we can do justice to our time, of course, mr. farhanakian answered your previous request with two or three points. in the next part
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, i will ask you. do you know this point by now? yes, yes, the point is that i accept the major weakness, just like, for example , i may go to the website of some ministry. in fact, we have the problem that it is not up to date. this is a discussion, a discussion. the other thing is that some more detailed services need legal clarification, we don't have the information that mr. gurbanzadeh is looking for when it is available on the lawyers association website . then, for example, what cases did he have, what is the field, he needs some legislative work , god willing, the next parliament will do it. the next point is this. that there is a legal prohibition, yes, we cannot specify, that means we cannot classify lawyers , that means we are not allowed to, for example, in the way that the law actually tells us.
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the problem is that in fact, both the lawyer and the client need to be allowed to come here , to be uploaded, to be collected somewhere, to be classified , to be classified. here he wants to decide this , it is not in our hands to be able to do this at once, which means that this should really be the work of legislation. now i will tell you the first step . that it makes us busy with a lot of professional work, or for example, if we know that mr. farhanakian has 10 real estate cases, or 20 , for example, cases that need to be legislated , before you ask for 10 real estate cases, my question is: how do i know if
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mr. farhanakian is a lawyer or not ? if you call him, fersht faranakian will tell you his license number, office phone number, mobile number, address , everything . that we are very busy with our own service the public accepts a part of it, but a part of it is that we are not allowed, that is, we are not allowed to classify the information that is in the hands of the judiciary or the tax department
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. in the 7th plan , make a move, god willing, it will be matured. this is another discussion that makes this weakness more serious, and i myself accept the fact that we have more than 20 lawyers' associations. this is more serious than the discussion you are raising. for example, if you take my name and search for lawyers in shiraz, my name will not appear. now , the point is, yes, it means that there is no single data bank, basically. that is, you have to search for the center of my name or on the google website of the lawyers' association, which starts from the beginning, just like the other centers.

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